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Speaker 1: Hello to all my fellow grown ups and budding plant

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Speaker 1: How to Adult, the podcast dedicated to helping you figure

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Speaker 5: that growth. But yeah, and Matt, as you said, like

441
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 5: moving the plant around is one of the worst things

442
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 5: that you can do. Do not be a helicopter plant parent.

443
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 5: Leave that girl alone, honey, leave alone.

444
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Speaker 1: Okay, give her a second hercond exactly. I mean what

445
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: you just said about appreciating the new growth and giving

446
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Speaker 1: that time to grow into their new selves is so

447
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: beautiful and such a lovely lesson to apply to all

448
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: aspects of life and including our plants. Ah. Yes, leaving

449
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Speaker 1: plants alone and giving them a second to grow. And

450
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Speaker 1: it just is also a lot like the last three

451
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Speaker 1: men I dated. One of the most basic ways though,

452
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: that we can take care of plants is monitoring the

453
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Speaker 1: moisture level of the soil and making sure we're not

454
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Speaker 1: under or overwatering, because, as our queen alluded to earlier,

455
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Speaker 1: you don't want to end up with root rot. For

456
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: those of you unfamiliar with that term, I'm going to

457
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: do my best to explain it, but ultimately, it's a

458
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: fungal disease that causes your root system to decay, and

459
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: when you overwater your plants, this creates a prime environment

460
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: for root rot to take hold and thrive. The trickiest

461
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: bit of it is because it all starts to take

462
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: place underneath the surface of your soil, it can be

463
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: hard to detect at first, which is why it is

464
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: so important to understand the watering needs of your plant

465
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: and best drainage practices to keep it all at bay.

466
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the importance of water and

467
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: perhaps more importantly drainage and when we're potting plants, how

468
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: to make sure we avoid things like root rot and

469
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: the best watering path forward for some of our plants.

470
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Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the number one reasons that plant leave

471
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Speaker 5: us for the little botanical gardening.

472
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Speaker 4: This guy is overwatering.

473
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Speaker 5: I encourage folks to test the soil moisture before they

474
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Speaker 5: water any plant, right, So typically folks are like, oh,

475
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 5: that's dry, I need to water the plant. Which you

476
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 5: really need to do is look at the water near

477
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 5: the roots, right, and the soil at the time is

478
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 5: most likely going to dry out quicker than the soil

479
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 5: at the bottom.

480
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Speaker 1: That makes sense.

481
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you recommend like water meters for that to

482
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: see like how moist the soil is at the roots.

483
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: If you have a little tool, this is a soil.

484
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Speaker 1: Probe, Oh what does that do?

485
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 5: So if you look at this part of it, there's

486
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 5: some ridges, right, you stick it in the soil and

487
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 5: then you pull it out, and then there's the soil

488
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 5: in these little sections right.

489
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Speaker 1: To describe for the audience, it looks like kind of

490
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: like a bunch of little openings like for a flute,

491
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: all down in a line.

492
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

493
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And so what you do is that I would

494
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 5: then take that soy be like, Okay, the soil at

495
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 5: the bottom is really dry.

496
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: The plant needs water.

497
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Speaker 2: So do you not recommend using the water meters? Then?

498
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Speaker 5: You know, I think technology is amazing. It's allowing us

499
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 5: to have this conversation right now. For me, the least

500
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 5: amount of technology I can use to take care of

501
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 5: my plant in the moment the better, because a lot

502
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 5: of my life is surrounded by technology and I really

503
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 5: try to have my plant not be that. But yeah,

504
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 5: if folks so like I want to know exactly what

505
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 5: the moisture is in my toil, then you through the

506
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 5: water meter.

507
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and for the audience, really like I'm a moistmeter.

508
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 3: It looks very similar as like a probe that you

509
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 3: stick into the soil and I'll kind of tell you

510
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 3: like between wet, dry, and moist, which would be like

511
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: kind of a medium setting where your plant's soil is at.

512
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 3: But I've also heard sometimes they can't be that accurate,

513
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: so I just that's why I wanted to ask.

514
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 5: That's been my experience, so I tend to stay away

515
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 5: from them, and I kind of just feel the soil

516
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 5: with my hand. And that's just living in a city,

517
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 5: Like it's rare that I can let my feet touch

518
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 5: the grass or let my hand touch the soil. So

519
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 5: I'm going to touch the soil of my plant because

520
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 5: I don't have access to that readily.

521
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Speaker 1: That's your version of grounding.

522
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very much, th All Pinnes.

523
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Speaker 1: Intended grounding, which is sometimes also refer to was earthing,

524
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: is a practice of having direct contact between your skin

525
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: and the earth, and it's a way to connect your

526
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: body to the electric energy of the earth. So anytime

527
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: you run in the grass and bare feet or lay

528
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: down on a lawn in a park, you are earthing

529
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: or grounding. And over the years the practice has grown

530
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Speaker 1: in its popularity and even gained a bit of support

531
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Speaker 1: from science. Aside from the proposed mental health benefits, some studies,

532
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: like the one published in the Journal of Inflammation Research,

533
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: found strong evidence suggesting that the practice can also reduce

534
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: inflammation and prompt healing in the body.

535
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Speaker 2: And to get on a little bit more of drainage.

536
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Speaker 3: So the way that my wife does it, and I'm

537
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 3: curious to hear out what you think about this, she'll

538
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: get some soil, but you'll also get more like rocky pebbles,

539
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: and the rocky pebbles go at the bottom basically to

540
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,199
Speaker 3: I guess, allow the water to escape away from the soil,

541
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Speaker 3: so that the water goes through the soil and makes

542
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: the soil moist, but it doesn't like stay trapped in

543
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Speaker 3: the soil. Is that a proper way to drain it?

544
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: And if not, what are some other ways you might

545
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 3: go about draining.

546
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Speaker 4: I think that's one way.

547
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 5: I try my best to purchase planters that have drainage holes.

548
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: And again, depending on where you live in the world,

549
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 5: your water quality may be different. Some water may have

550
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 5: more minerals compared to others that will build up and

551
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 5: deteriorate your plant's health. And so I use terracotta. It's

552
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 5: a preventative way for me to care for my plant

553
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 5: because I'm an over waterer and so like, that's how

554
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 5: I kill most of my plants. Child, I'm just like,

555
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 5: I'm going to give you love, too much love, and

556
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 5: he has more water. It's like, girl, I'm drowning what

557
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 5: you're doing. So terracotta breathe and it's preventative. But if

558
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 5: you look at this pot here, there's this white residue

559
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 5: in the terracotta pot that's leftover residue from the water

560
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 5: that I use. So imagine that just building up over

561
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 5: and over time at the bottom of a pot, and

562
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 5: those minerals can be harmful for the plant. So I

563
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: find it best if the water just goes through the

564
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: foil and leaves the pot completely.

565
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 4: But again that's my process.

566
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 5: Right. If you have plants that are thriving in the

567
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 5: way that you're caring for them, more power to you

568
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 5: keep doing what you're doing. But for me, drainage holds

569
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 5: are really important. It's basically a little hole at the

570
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 5: bottom of the pot. It let the water run out

571
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 5: and you can choose to reuse that water. But drainage

572
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 5: is just really really important. It's just helpful for the

573
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 5: longevity of the plant life.

574
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Speaker 1: What if we were to filter our water and give

575
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Speaker 1: it to our plants, is that excessive Will that help

576
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: eliminate getting some of these things out of the water

577
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: system for them?

578
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: That is a way.

579
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Speaker 5: So there are certain plants that enjoy distilled water because

580
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 5: depending on where you live, the acidity of the water

581
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 5: could actually burn their route. There's a few plants that

582
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 5: are really sensitive to that, So it depends on the plant. Now,

583
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: on the flip side, there are some minerals that are

584
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: nutritious for our plants as well. It's just that any

585
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 5: good thing in access is not a good thing. And

586
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 5: for me, a person with over two hundred plants in

587
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 5: their home. The idea of brit and filtering all the water.

588
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 5: It would take weeks for me to water my plant.

589
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 5: I would not be here right now. I would have

590
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 5: been like, yo, I'm real water my plants. I can't

591
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 5: join you off of the podcast. So two hundred, yeah,

592
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 5: over two hundred. So yeah, if that's something folks want

593
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 5: to try, cool, I don't think you need to go

594
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 5: that far. I would just buy a planter with a

595
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 5: drainage hole.

596
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Speaker 3: That's a good point though about acidity and just like

597
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: you know, if your plants seem to be reacting negatively

598
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: to water, that that might be something to look out for.

599
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think it also can teach you a

600
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 5: little bit about the water quality in your area, right. Yeah,

601
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that we do for our

602
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 5: plant that in turn is actually just good for our bodies. Right. Know,

603
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 5: in the direction of your windows and how this sun

604
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: move through your faith is good for your body and

605
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 5: your sleeping pattern. Knowing the quality of the water in

606
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 5: your area is also good for your own body. And

607
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 5: think that we don't necessarily think about in our day

608
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 5: to day. But again, our plants have been around for

609
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 5: much longer than we have. It can teach us a

610
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: lot of life lessons that we need to start paying

611
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Speaker 5: attention to.

612
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Speaker 1: So true. Coming up on grown up stuff how to adults.

613
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 5: Propagation is when you clip a piece from a mother

614
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 5: plant in a way that allows that clipping to grow

615
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 5: into another plant.

616
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick break, and we're

617
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: back with more grown up stuff how to adults.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious.

619
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Speaker 3: We talked a little bit about soil, but kind will

620
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: any old soil do?

621
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Speaker 2: And how do you know when it's time to maybe

622
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: change the soil?

623
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: Oh?

624
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 5: So fun fact, the potting soil that we use for

625
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 5: our plant is not made of the top soil that

626
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 5: we experience in nature or dirt.

627
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: Then what is it.

628
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 5: It's basically a concoction of a bunch of different things.

629
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 5: So it's manufactured and created for plants that are going

630
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 5: to be enclosed containers. You never want to take soil

631
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 5: from outside and plant them in that. You don't want

632
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 5: to do that. One of the great things about the

633
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 5: century is that you can go to a plant store

634
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: and they have all types of soil labeled at your fingertips,

635
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 5: So based on the plant that you have, identify the

636
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 5: type of soil for that particular plant. I'm an over waterer,

637
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 5: so I tend to add perlite, which is those white

638
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 5: little rocks. Also use fur bark, which is the bark

639
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 5: from fir trees. You can find that any pet store.

640
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 5: Is typically what folks use for reptile containers or tanks.

641
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 5: So I put that in my soil your recipe because

642
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 5: it adds like a nice woody scent when I water,

643
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 5: and it creates like air pockets in the soil, which

644
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 5: helps again preventative over water situation here. And you want

645
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 5: to try to remove as much of the old soil

646
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 5: as possible when you are repotting a plant, because you

647
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 5: don't know how much nutrition is in that soil. So

648
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 5: typically I would doorball soil have a certain level of

649
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 5: nutrients already in it, and you don't know how long

650
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 5: that planet has been sitting in that soil. You want

651
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 5: to kind of just strip I've even rinse off the

652
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 5: soil sometimes, just like really getting that old soil off

653
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 5: the roots and giving it a fresh new start, which

654
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 5: we all deserve in life.

655
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: When do you know it's time to repot?

656
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: Oh?

657
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 5: When repotting, there's two things. There's repotting in terms of

658
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 5: a soil refresh which means you can keep the containers

659
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 5: in but just change the soil, or you can change

660
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 5: the container. And Okay, if the plant is outgrowing, if

661
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Speaker 5: the soil is moldy, if it's growing mushrooms, you probably

662
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Speaker 5: want to change to soil. If there's a lot of

663
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Speaker 5: fungus gnats, you want to probably change the soil. Like obviously,

664
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Speaker 5: you want to wait at least a year, like a

665
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Speaker 5: year or more to reap hot You never want to

666
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Speaker 5: do within the year. Try to do it around growing season,

667
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 5: so that's spring, summer wherever you're living in the world.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I had a bad fungal mat situation, and like,

669
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Speaker 1: what are some other ways we can curb this issue

670
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Speaker 1: and eliminate pests in our house plants.

671
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think it depends on the past. But

672
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 5: some general things that folks can do. It's just checking

673
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 5: on their plants occasionally. So like when you're watering your plant,

674
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 5: you should be checking the leaves out. I wipe the

675
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 5: leaves down of my plant. Just using water is great,

676
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: But kneem oil is like a wonderful natural pathticide in secticide,

677
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 5: and I tend to like putnam oil right in water soaked,

678
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 5: drag in it and then I just go through and

679
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 5: wipe the dust and potential paths off the plant. So

680
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 5: check it on your plant. Often, wipe down the leaves.

681
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 5: For fungal net, they do particularly well in moist soil.

682
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 5: So if you are good at letting your plant foil

683
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,280
Speaker 5: dry out right to the point before they need water,

684
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: that is one of the best things that you can do.

685
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 5: Sometimes I'll mix in there's these mosquito pellets that you.

686
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Speaker 4: Can order online.

687
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 5: They're really good when it comes to fungal net and

688
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 5: some other paths and basically pets that lay eggs in

689
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 5: the soil. Literally just sprinkle a couple of those when

690
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 5: you're mixing your potting soil and you're replanting your plant.

691
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Speaker 4: That's one of the best ways.

692
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 5: Sometimes I use a mixture of cayenne pepper and brown cinnamon.

693
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 5: I'll mix that into the soil. They hate that too.

694
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: Oil they hate.

695
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 5: If you want to use like alcohol and a little

696
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 5: bit of soap, like mike that in water and spray

697
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 5: that and like wipe down your leave that's another way.

698
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, it's a lot of different way that you

699
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Speaker 4: can do that.

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Speaker 1: Pests are the worst. I am still plant shy because

701
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Speaker 1: of my experience with a full blown fungal net infestation. Pruning, however,

702
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: is another important plant care practice that cannot only keep

703
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Speaker 1: the pests away, but also improve the overall health of

704
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Speaker 1: a plant.

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Speaker 3: We just wanted to talk about what pruning is and

706
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Speaker 3: why you might want to prune your plants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so pruning it basically when you are removing any

708
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 5: dying or yellowing leaves from your green girl. And so

709
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 5: there's like some evolutionary trait where paths are drawn to

710
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 5: the color yellow because that means that the leaf is

711
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 5: dying and its defenses are down, So that means that

712
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: they can most likely suck out the life from that

713
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 5: particular leaf more easily than a healthy leaf. So you're

714
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: snipping that before they have the chance to grow and it

715
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 5: spread to the other parts of the plant. It also

716
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 5: allows the plant to focus is its energy on new growth.

717
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Speaker 5: So instead of focusing on a leaf that is on

718
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 5: its way out, you snip it. Now it's redirecting all

719
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 5: that energy and all that sugar that is creating to

720
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 5: the part of the plant that's growing. So pruning is

721
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 5: really really important. People also prune plant to shape plants.

722
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 5: They're cutting and reconfiguring its growth to focus on particular parts,

723
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Speaker 5: and then pruning could also be an opportunity for propagation.

724
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 5: So propagation is basically when you clip a piece from

725
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 5: a mother plant and you clip it in a way

726
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 5: that allows that clipping to grow into another plant. Depending

727
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 5: on the anatomy of a plant, propagation methods could vary.

728
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: So you could do stem cutting, you could do leaf cutting,

729
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 5: you could do soil layering. That's basically when if you

730
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 5: have a buyin any plant, you'll see little nose on

731
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 5: the vine and typically those noes will develop into roots

732
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Speaker 5: if they have the opportunity. And so I know folks

733
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 5: who will take that vine, put it in the soil

734
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: that the planet is already and so redirect it and

735
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 5: then the roofs will begin to grow and then they

736
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 5: just kind of dig that out. They snip it and

737
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 5: now we have reroofs where you can like plant it

738
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Speaker 5: in another pot.

739
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Speaker 3: It's one of the coolest things that we've done in

740
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: our house is that we've got a couple of favorite

741
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: plants and we name our plants. So this is this

742
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Speaker 3: is Maurice, and we have propagated Maurice several times. Like

743
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Speaker 3: Maurice has went, has gone through many many lives, was

744
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: not doing so well at one point and got a

745
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: little too big for his pot, and so we kind

746
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 3: of broke him up and split him out among three

747
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: different pots in the Yeah. No, We've got a couple

748
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: of little little Maurice's around the house. So it can

749
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Speaker 3: be really really fun. You don't have to buy necessarily

750
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Speaker 3: a ton of new plants. You can use what you

751
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: have to continue growing your indoor garden.

752
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you can give them.

753
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Speaker 5: But then also if you ever find that you have

754
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 5: a plant that is beginning to like leave you, and

755
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 5: you're like, oh, damn it, like I really want this

756
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 5: plant to like survive, but you realize that, you know,

757
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: maybe the foundational structure of the plants, like girl, the

758
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 5: roots are not going to grow. Sometimes I'll nip a

759
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 5: part of that plant and I'm like, well, I still have.

760
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: You, and I'm going to grow this new little part.

761
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: Of you elsewhere that legacy lives on.

762
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, and now with the whole new plant, but you

763
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 5: know that legacy, the original plant is still with me.

764
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Speaker 5: So yeah, pruiting is is wonderful.

765
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that you mentioned sometimes there's nothing you

766
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: can do and it's time for them to join that

767
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: potanical garden in the sky. How do we know that

768
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: the plant is at that stage and there's nothing left

769
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: to do for them besides potentially propag some of it.

770
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if the plant is just barked to

771
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 5: a crisp and you come home from a vacation and

772
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 5: it's just shriveled and dried and there's no green part

773
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 5: of the plant, that it's like, girl, you know what,

774
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 5: Just compost that queen, give her back to the earth. Honey.

775
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So is composting the best way to dispose

776
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: of plants once there?

777
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 5: If it's not infested. You never want to compost an

778
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 5: invested plant. But if it went to the little botanical

779
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: garden because of neglect, then you probably can compost that plant.

780
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I think it depends on the person, right, Like,

781
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Speaker 5: I've had plants where I'm just like, girl, you are

782
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 5: extremely infested.

783
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Speaker 4: I've tried, and you think keep coming back.

784
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry I can't anymore, honestly, Like for folks who

785
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 5: are listening, I do not have.

786
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 4: A degree in botany or horticulture.

787
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 5: I have a backtor's degree in psychology and a master's

788
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 5: degree in higher education. And a lot of what I've

789
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 5: learned fan one through my grandmother, who at a very

790
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 5: early age took me under her wing and introduced me

791
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 5: to her garden, and you know, really instilled in me

792
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 5: that we need to be very respectful and empathetic and

793
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 5: appreciative of nature, because literally, nature gives us everything that

794
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 5: we need in order to live and survive and thrive,

795
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 5: and it does it selflessly. It doesn't ask for anything

796
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 5: in return. So we need to be very respectful. And

797
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: so my grandmother was a very big foundation in like

798
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 5: this plant journey, But a lot of what I've learned

799
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: has been through trial and error. Me just like stepping

800
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 5: into the world of plant and being like, all right,

801
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna lead with a curious mind. Let me take

802
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 5: note of any mistakes or quote unquote failures.

803
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Speaker 4: And just learn from them.

804
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 5: I feel like we learn more from our failures than

805
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: we do our successes.

806
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Speaker 4: You can just look it up online and see what

807
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 4: to do.

808
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 5: But I mean, why not give yourself the opportunity to,

809
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 5: you know, teach yourself something, or let nature teach you something.

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Speaker 3: I think that that was so beautifully put Christopher. Truly, like,

811
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Speaker 3: I think that we learn best when we're listening to others,

812
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 3: and so if you're looking out for the plant, if

813
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: you're considering the plant, then that plant can really teach

814
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: you everything that you need to know about taking care

815
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: of it. And I think it's a great way to

816
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: learn about nature and to learn about ourselves taking care

817
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: of something else.

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Speaker 2: So that was beautifully put. And thank you for sharing that.

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Speaker 5: Ah, thank you. I could keep talking with you all

820
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Speaker 5: for average if it's so fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad. We really enjoyed this.

822
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Speaker 3: And we feel it likewise, it's like talking with someone

823
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: who cares so much about what they do is just like,

824
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 3: is there anything more invigorating in life? Like that is

825
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: a beautiful thing. So no, this has been so wonderful. Seriously,

826
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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that. No, thank y'all.

828
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, your background in psychology and higher education

829
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: is so evident because the way you talk about plants

830
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: is also so indicative of, like you said, the way

831
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Speaker 1: that we should treat ourselves and the way that we

832
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: should approach life in general. So yeah, I just want

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00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: to thank you so much for being here with us

834
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: and for sharing all of your insights, and this has

835
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Speaker 1: been so special and magical and wonderful.

836
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 5: Matt Moley, this has been absolutely amazing, and thank y'all

837
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 5: for letting me rant about my green girls and caring

838
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 5: for you know, these little potted pieces of nature in

839
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 5: my space. And I hope for everybody listening that you

840
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 5: allow yourself to again lean into curiosity, give yourself grace

841
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 5: when you're bringing plants into your home because there are

842
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 5: wild creatures that we are bringing into our home, and

843
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 5: have fun with it, like bringing plant bringing nature into

844
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 5: your home should be a playful, fun process where you

845
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 5: discover a bunch of new things about yourself, where you're living,

846
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: potentially other people, especially the plants, to bring into your space.

847
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 4: So I hope folks to have fun with the process.

848
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Speaker 1: I think that's like a great way to also approach

849
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Speaker 1: Life's just go through it with curiosity and playfulness and

850
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: you can't lose that way, right Hello?

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Speaker 4: Hello?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much Christopher.

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Speaker 3: You we feel like I've learned just as much about

854
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 3: life as I have about plants.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Christopher. You are an absolute dream and

856
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: forever our plant queen. If you want to hear more

857
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: from Christopher, don't forget to follow them on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Plant Queen that's spelled kwee n and check out their

859
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: book You Grow Girl, Plant Queen's Guide to Growing Your Garden.

860
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Speaker 1: I'm really inspired and reminded about the ways that nature

861
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: can take care of us as we care for it.

862
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: Here's what else I'm taking with me from this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Real plants provide numerous benefits, including air purification and increased humidity,

864
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: plus mental health benefits. Plants can tell us a lot

865
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: about what we need and remind us to take care

866
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: of ourselves. Choose plants that are suitable for your space

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Speaker 1: in terms of light and water requirements and temperature. Snake

868
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: plants or other plants meant for more air climates tend

869
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: to be more resilient and don't require as much watering.

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00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Proper drainage is essential to prevent root rot and maintain

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00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: plant health. Pests can not only be annoying, they can

872
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: ruin the health of your plants. Christopher recommends non chemical

873
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: remedies like cayenne pepper or ground cinnamon in the soil.

874
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: Peppermint oil is also a great option, and don't forget

875
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: to check new plants carefully before you bring them back

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00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: from leaf to soil. Just to make sure you're not

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Speaker 1: bringing in any new pests or diseases that could impact

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Speaker 1: the health of your other plants at home. Also, you

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Speaker 1: few weeks before putting them near the others. Pruning helps

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Speaker 1: redirect a plant's energy and can promote new growth. Propagation

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Speaker 1: allows you to create new plants from existing ones. If

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Speaker 1: a plant is beyond saving and it's not infested, consider

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Speaker 1: composting it as it transcends to that beautiful botanical garden

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Speaker 1: in the sky. And finally, approach plant care with curiosity

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Speaker 1: and playfulness and learn from your experiences. Mattie stills, plants

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Speaker 1: are wild creatures and I'm going to treat them as

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Speaker 1: such moving forward. What was your favorite part of this episode?

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Speaker 3: My favorite part was what Christopher was touching on at

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Speaker 3: the end, which is everything is so fast paced nowadays,

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Speaker 3: and there's so many tiny little things to keep track

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Speaker 3: of that can just stress us out. And plants can

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Speaker 3: absolutely do the opposite that they can force you to

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Speaker 3: slow down a little bit, to spend some time with nature,

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Speaker 3: nature can give us. And I hope that whoever decides

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Speaker 3: to take it on can just take a little bit

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Speaker 3: of that piece with them and enjoy it and let

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Speaker 3: it be a trial and error. You know, you don't

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Speaker 3: have to be perfect. You can kill a plant or two.

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Speaker 3: We've all been there. As long as you're learning along

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Speaker 3: the way and having fun, I think that's the most

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Speaker 3: important thing.

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Speaker 2: But what about you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of practical advice in this one, great conversation,

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Speaker 1: lots to take home and practice. But Matt, what other

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Speaker 1: great conversations and guests are on the horizon for us?

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Speaker 3: Many, many many Next episode, we're digging into one of

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Speaker 3: my favorite topics, personal finance. And while that seems very broad,

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Speaker 3: we're going to just focus on financial awareness, you know,

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Speaker 3: tracking expenses and the big bee we've learned about in

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Speaker 3: the first few seasons of this show, budgeting. And we'll

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Speaker 3: be joined by two yeah, incredibly special guests, Austin Hankowitz

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Speaker 3: from the Rate of Return newsletter and the Rich Habits

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Speaker 3: podcast and Jennise Torres from the podcast Yo Kiero Dinero

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Speaker 3: and the author of the new book Financially Lit, The

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Speaker 3: Modern Latina's Guide to level up your Dinero and become

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Speaker 3: financially PoTA Rosa, Matt.

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Speaker 1: This may be your favorite topic to learn about, but

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Speaker 1: it personally gives me hives, and I'm hoping that our

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Speaker 1: friends Bustin Jine's will help me get over that and

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Speaker 1: set me on the path of being a grown up

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Speaker 1: about my finances.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're going to get you there, one high yield

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Speaker 3: savings account at a time, but we'll find out more

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Speaker 3: in two weeks on the next episode of Grown Up

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Speaker 3: Stuff How to Adult. And if you are enjoying the show,

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Speaker 3: But it never hurts to do your homework. This is

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