1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: And and I'm John Tucker. Here are these stories we're following today. 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: John, Let's begin with the presidential race and Elon Musk's 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: latest effort to inject himself into it. The billionaire hosted 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: former President Donald Trump in an x spaces conversation that 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: lasted more than two hours. Once it started, the live 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: stream was delayed more than forty minutes. Musk blamed hackers. 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 4: We unfortunately had a massive distributed Nilo service attack against 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 4: our servers. As this massive attack illustrates, there's a lot 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 4: of opposition to people just hearing what President Trump has 12 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: to say. 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: But once Elon Musk's conversation started with former President Trump, 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: he did have a lot to say about the attempt 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: on his life, about illegal immigration, and on the prospects 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: of a wider war in the Middle East. 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 5: We're all waiting for an attack from Iran. Iran would 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 5: not be attacking Believe me, you know when I was there, 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 5: and I say it with respect because I think we 20 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 5: would have been good with Iran. I don't want to 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 5: do anything bad to Iran, but they knew not to 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 5: mess around, and. 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: At one point Elon Musk pitched a role for himself 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: in a future Trump administration. 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: I think it'd be great to just have a government 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: efficiency commission that takes a look at these things and 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 4: just ensures that the taxpayer money, the taxpayers are harder 28 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: money is spent in a good way. 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 6: And I'd be happy. 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 4: To help out on such a commission. 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: I'd love if it were. 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 5: Well, you you're the greatest cutter. 33 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: And Following the event, the Kamala Harris campaign released a 34 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 2: statement saying that the conversation showed Trump's campaign is only 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: about self obsessed rich guys who would sell out the 36 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: middle class. 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: They have plenty of reaction to the Trump Musk conversation. 38 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Managing editor Derek Wallbanks says the confab was an 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 3: important one for Musk. 40 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 7: If Donald Trump wins, Elon Musk has a lot at stake, 41 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 7: and if he loses, he had a lot of steak 42 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 7: as well. Musk's companies are tremendous US government contract holders, 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 7: particularly SpaceX. At the same point, Musk is also somebody 44 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 7: whose car company, Tesla, has a lot in terms of 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 7: tax plans and things like that that would be a 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 7: subject of a US administration. So Musk has, in addition 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 7: to his own ideological proclivities and alignments, he actually has 48 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 7: a lot at stake in this election. He's gone really, 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 7: really hard on one side, not hedging his bets at all. 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Derek Worldbanks says after the Trump conversation, Musk posted 51 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: that he'd be happy to host Vice President Harris on 52 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: X spaces. 53 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: Moving from the online realm to the real world John. 54 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: The FBI says it is investigating efforts to hack both 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: the Harris and Trump campaigns. Bloomberg's Ed Baxter has more. 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 8: The GOP says hackers attempted to get into Roger Stone, 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 8: a former Trump advisor's account. The Harrow's campaign says some 58 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 8: Harris staffers were targets. The Washington Post first reported the attempts. 59 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 8: The Harris campaign itself says it does not appear to 60 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 8: be a victim. It says the campaign vigilantly monitors and 61 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 8: protects against cyber threats, and that it is not aware 62 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 8: of any security breaches. The Trump campaign hasn't responded directly, 63 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 8: Ed Baxter. 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Radio thanks Ed, and the hack attempts come as 65 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 3: authorities say they're investigating a burglary at a Donald Trump 66 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: campaign office in suburban Virginia. Political reports that the local 67 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: sheriff's office released a surveillance video of a man inside 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: the building with what appears to be a full backpack. 69 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: The sheriff's department did not say what, if anything, was taken. 70 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: It's turned out to the latest in the Middle East. 71 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: John US officials now say an I running attack against 72 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: Israel has grown even more likely. We get details from 73 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Rosalind Matheson. 74 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 9: So they're publicly warning that some sort of retaliation from 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 9: around does seem to still be coming, because a lot 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 9: of people are asking the question as to if Iran 77 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 9: intends to retaliate for the death of this Hamas official 78 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 9: in Tehran two weeks ago, why have they not retaliated 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 9: and are they going to still retaliate, And what the 80 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 9: US is warning is that very much seems to be 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 9: in the ether for Iran to do something. And Tehran, 82 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 9: of course has been saying they feel obliged to retaliate 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 9: for this killing, which they blame on Israel, and Israel's 84 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 9: never claimed a responsibility for it, at least publicly. 85 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's rise Mathieson says the last time Iran attacked Israel 86 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: back in April, it fired hundreds of ballistic missiles and drones, 87 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: almost all of which were intercepted. 88 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 3: And turning to the markets, stocks are up around the 89 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: world head of some key infliction data. Japan's Nike gained 90 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 3: three and a half percent and has now recouped its 91 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: losses from last week's we're out European averages in the 92 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: US future is also higher. Amanda Gatti, the chief investment 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: Officer of asset Management at P and C Bank, is 94 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: bullo shut stocks going forward thanks to earnings. 95 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 10: Expectations for earnings growth in twenty twenty five are near 96 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 10: fifteen per That's a huge number on a year over 97 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 10: year basis, and so while things may be choppy between 98 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 10: here and say the election or the results of the election, 99 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 10: we do think it will pave the way for some 100 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 10: additional momentum into twenty twenty five. So we're absolutely thinking 101 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 10: that we can finish the year fairly strong and set 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 10: the stage for a strong twenty twenty five as well. 103 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: P and C Samanda Ghani says the stock market right 104 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: now is price for perfection, and she's looking at fixed 105 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: income in the short term. 106 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 2: Well John investors are going to get the first of 107 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: two key inflation reports this morning before the opening bell. 108 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: We get the July reading on producer prices. Economists are 109 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: forecasting a gain of two tens to one percent. We 110 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: get a preview from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 111 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 11: For only the second time this year, the PPI report 112 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 11: will be released ahead of CPI. That could mean some 113 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 11: market volatility if there are any surprises in the data. 114 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 11: While changes in producer prices don't correlate directly to changes 115 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 11: in consumer prices, some investors may try to pre trade 116 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 11: the CPI given sensitivities around the FED and inflation. Could 117 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 11: there be a surprise Last month headline producer prices jumped 118 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 11: on an annual basis, although that move did not translate 119 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 11: into the CPI. Michael McKee Bloomberg Radio. 120 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: All right, thanks Mike, and the big inflation report comes 121 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 3: tomorrow with the July reading and consumer prices. Steve Shiverona 122 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: is the senior portfolio manager at Federated Hermes. 123 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 12: If the CPI is soft and that reinforces market expectations 124 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 12: of at least twenty five basis points, if not fifty 125 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 12: basis points of cuts in September, and the FED is 126 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 12: cooperative in terms of FED speak. I think the market 127 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 12: will get some comfort if, however, we have a weakening 128 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 12: of the labor force and we get a hotter than 129 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 12: expected CPI print this month, the market might be concerned 130 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 12: that the FED is stuck between a rock and a 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 12: hard place. 132 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: Frederated Hermie Steve Shivona. As that answer tomorrow's CPI data, 133 00:06:53,760 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: all eyes will be on the next jobs report is 134 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: to five. Await on Wall Street time for a look 135 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: at some of the other stories making news in New 136 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: York and around the world, and for that we're joined 137 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael, good Morning. 138 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 13: Good morning John. Ukraine's top military commander says his forces 139 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 13: now control three hundred and eighty six square miles of 140 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 13: Russia's neighboring Kirsk region. It is one of the most 141 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 13: serious incursions Russian President Vladimir Putin has faced since the 142 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 13: start of the war. Putin vows a strong response after 143 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 13: almost a week of fearce fighting. Meanwhile, the State Department 144 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 13: says the US is aware of reports that Iran is 145 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 13: planning to deliver ballistic missiles to Russia. During a State 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 13: Department briefing, spokesman van At Patel says, the US it's 147 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 13: concerned about the quote deepening security partnership between Iran and Russia. 148 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 6: It is not just a threat to European security, it's 149 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 6: a threat to Middle East security. But it's also shows 150 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 6: that Iran's destabilizing influences has reached beyond the Middle East region, 151 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 6: and that would be should you have concern to the 152 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 6: entire world. 153 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 13: State Department spokesman ven At pattel it's a setback and 154 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 13: Robert F. Kennedy Junior's presidential bid. A judge in Albany, 155 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 13: New York ordered him off the ballot in the state, 156 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 13: a Democrat and line group arguing in a lawsuit that 157 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 13: Kennedy misled voters by the listing as his home and 158 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 13: address he rarely visits. Meet the new FDNY Commissioner. Mayor 159 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 13: Eric Adams appointed Robert Tucker, the head of a private 160 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 13: security firm, to lead New York City's Fire department. 161 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: Public safety has been my life's work. 162 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 14: I've had a long career in the public and private sector, 163 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 14: and being appointed Fire Commissioner of the City of New 164 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 14: York is the biggest Honor of my life. 165 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 13: Tucker, who is fifty four, takes over from Laura Cavanaugh, 166 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 13: the first woman to serve as the city's fire commissioner. 167 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 13: Like Kavanaugh, Tucker has never worked as a firefighter. The 168 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 13: Los Angeles area was rattled by a magnitude four point 169 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 13: four earthquake Monday. The center was in Highland Park, north 170 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 13: of LA where there was another earthquake in June. This 171 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 13: woman was inside when the quake hit. 172 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 14: The lights were shaking, all of our glass doors are 173 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 14: coming off of the walls and then hitting the walls 174 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 14: back again. 175 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: It was It was pretty crazy. 176 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 13: Pe quake was felled as far away as San Diego. 177 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 13: Global News twenty four hours a day and whenever you 178 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 13: want it with the Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barr. 179 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg John, Michael, thank you, promises to five 180 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: to ten of Wall Streets. Time for the Bloomberg Sports 181 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: Update and for that. Good morning, John Stashore. 182 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: All right, Come morning, John. 183 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 15: Yankees went to Chicago figuring they'd get some easy wins. 184 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 15: There was an easy victory, but it was by the 185 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 15: lowly White SOPs, the team that has already lost ninety 186 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 15: one games, including twenty four of their previous twenty five. 187 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 15: But the Yanks stranded a bunch of runners early, fell behind, 188 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 15: and then the White SOPs blew the game over with 189 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 15: a six run seventh and they crushed Aaron Boone's team 190 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 15: twelve to two. 191 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 7: Freed us to them. 192 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 14: Everything they hit tonight was a hit, you know. And 193 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 14: you know, though I thought we played, we played hard. 194 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 14: I thought we did a lot of really good things 195 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 14: on defense, made some really good plays, had some mounts 196 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 14: at the plate, manufacturer run with you know, jazz and 197 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 14: opening up a lane. He just you know, we couldn't 198 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 14: punch through. We didn't hit fall out of the ballpark, 199 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 14: and they couldn't stop them. 200 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: Mets were off. 201 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 15: They fell a game behind Atlanta when the Braids won 202 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 15: one nothing at San Francisco, seven scoreless sittings for Chris Sale. 203 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: He struck out twelve. 204 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: Sale as the lowest cra in the National League. 205 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 15: Jets been a big offseason trade with Philadelphia. The acquired 206 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 15: Hassan Raddick fifty sacks the last four seasons, fourth most 207 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 15: of the NFL, but he's going to last year of 208 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 15: his contract. Once a new deal. He's been holding out 209 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 15: getting fined fifty thousand. 210 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: Dollars a day. 211 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 15: Reddick has demanded a trade that Jets say they're not 212 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 15: going to deal them, and there's a defensive player in 213 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 15: New England also wants to trade Matthew Judhon similar situation 214 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 15: last year of his contract. He had been a training 215 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 15: camp and was seen having animated puff with Patriots coach 216 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 15: in GM. Full NBA schedule not out yet, but the 217 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 15: opening games weren't for the Knicks. Ober twenty second, in Boston, 218 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 15: Celtics will voice their championship banner Johns Dash That were 219 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 15: Bloomberg Sports John Nathan. 220 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 13: Coast to Coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 221 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 13: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 222 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 13: Bloomberg Business app. 223 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. Former 224 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump's latest effort to reframe the twenty twenty 225 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: four races being posted on x The former president held 226 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: a more than two hour conversation with Elon Musk that 227 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 2: touched on many of the themes from his campaign rallies, 228 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: including on the war in Ukraine. 229 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: Ukraine now doesn't have enough men. They're now using young 230 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 5: men and very old men to fight, and we're in 231 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 5: a very bad position. And I'm not going to blame exclusively, 232 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 5: but I can tell you I could have stopped that, 233 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: and a smart president could have stopped that. 234 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have happened. That's just part of the conversation 235 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: with former President Trump and Elon Musk last night on 236 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: X spaces. Joining us now for more this morning is 237 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: Tina Fordham, Founder and geopolitical strategist at Fordham Global Foresight. Tina, 238 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: good morning. So we're talking about this conversation this morning, 239 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: our voter is going to be talking about it beyond 240 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: this week. 241 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 16: Well, that's the right question. We had a two hour 242 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 16: plus unplugged conversation between two of the most influential people 243 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 16: in the world. Your clip there just highlighted one of 244 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 16: the things that kept distracting me, which was the weird 245 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 16: speech impediment list being going on. Was somebody forget to 246 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 16: put his dentures in, But will it move the needle 247 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 16: on the polls? And on that front, I think it's 248 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 16: net neutral right preaching to the choir to perhaps slightly. 249 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: Negative just to play Devil's advocates. Some of that lisp 250 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: could be attributed to the glitchiness in the conversation the 251 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: limitations of did you live stream? But I mean this 252 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: conversation took forty minutes to get started because of the glitches. 253 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: Could that be a potential setback? 254 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 16: Well, I mean it doesn't look great for Musk's space platform, right, 255 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 16: it's X spaces and the forty minutes he said it 256 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 16: was a denial of service. Recall that the Florida Governor 257 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 16: Santis had similar problems when he tried to launch a 258 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 16: campaign event. These contribute to people's perceptions of organization. But again, 259 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 16: you know that audience was almost certainly the choir, and 260 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 16: they would have been coming to hear their heroes. So 261 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 16: I'm not sure it damages them too much because I'm 262 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 16: not sure that people who were undecided were. 263 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: Joining that call. Yeah, I wanted to get to that 264 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: weather a conversation on X would get more outreach beyond 265 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: you know, some of the super fans that are now 266 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 2: dominating much of the conversation on X now that Elon 267 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: Musk has taken over. Do you see the former president 268 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: reaching out beyond some of his base in a conversation 269 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: like that. 270 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 16: Well, I don't think this medium will have done that, 271 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 16: at least not the live conversation. Of course they can 272 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 16: cut it up into clips. But what I'm already seeing 273 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 16: from the Harris campaign is, you know, their social media 274 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 16: campaign is very slick, and so they are releasing mini clips, 275 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 16: you know, the ones that are obviously the seem the 276 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 16: most disadvantaged to Trump. And their press release this morning said, 277 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 16: you know whatever that was, So it's you know, it's 278 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 16: fodder for the opposition as well. Listen, this was no 279 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 16: Frost Nixon conversation. It wasn't particularly hard hitting, and we 280 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 16: had Trump, you know, doing Trump saying things like climate 281 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 16: change will have this positive byproduct of more ocean front property, 282 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 16: and that he would go to Venezuela if he lost 283 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 16: in the election. 284 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: Is that a vote winner? That prepackaged sort of slick 285 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: response from the Harris campaign. Couldn't it feed into some 286 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: of the criticism that the Trump campaign has put out 287 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: there that Harris hasn't made herself available for these kinds 288 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: of free, willing conversations. I mean, after the live chat 289 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: last night, Elon Musk invited Kamala Harris to come on, 290 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: should she. 291 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 16: Well, both sides are staying in their comfort zones. I 292 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 16: think we can say that, so Harris and Walls are 293 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 16: out talking to huge campaign rallies, but as you say, 294 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 16: haven't done any press conferences or one to one interviews 295 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 16: and have only well it's only been a few weeks, 296 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 16: of course, but they've only just now started releasing anything 297 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 16: resembling policy positions. Trump, for his part, has a very 298 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 16: light schedule of campaign events. He has almost none between 299 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 16: now and US Labor Day, and conversations like this are 300 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 16: almost like an online rally. So are both of them 301 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 16: keeping their powder dry? 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