1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaline Audio in 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: partnership with Iheartradiots das Katie Tho. 3 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: I just logged on and noticed that Giermo for this 4 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: episode is wearing a very very very sexy red hoodie. 5 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: Why would you be wearing a red hoodie today? 6 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Because in this episode, Huck tries to go incognito into 7 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: a hotel. Well, he doesn't even realize he has to 8 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: go incognity. He just happens to be wearing a red hoodie. 9 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: Who's been wearing flannels? Like how many episodes? 10 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 2: Stupid? I'm sorry, scandal, I love you all. 11 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: All of a sudden he's like, he's like, I'm gonna 12 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: rock this bright red hoodie. 13 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: Because they couldn't have like further down the line, being 14 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: like the most wanted man in America is wearing a 15 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: poop brown flannel. Right, it's like the most wanted man 16 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: in America is wearing a red hoodie that like sticks. 17 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: Although I honestly, until this episode, has Huck ever worn 18 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: the color red. 19 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: No, only when there's blood spatter on him does he 20 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: have red on his body. But he has not worn 21 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: the color red or any other color for that matter, 22 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: I mean you know. 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, you were always like all fucking dull and shit, boy, 24 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: you looked cute in this you're dull. Well, we have 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: a great episode because I love this episode, and we 26 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: have very special guests who we're going to tease you 27 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: about later. But wait, wait, wait, wait really quickly, I 28 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: wanted to tell you that I got a text from 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: Shonda Rhymes this morning. 30 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: You did. I love it? What did she say? Does 31 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: she love us? 32 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she loves us. She's obsessed with us. She's going 33 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: to put us in all of her shows from now 34 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 2: until the end of time. But Shonda wrote, she sent 35 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: me the Prince tweet? Did you know that Prince ever 36 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: tweeted us? 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: I did not, don't. I feel like if I would 38 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: have known that, we would have ran with that shit. 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: How did we? I didn't know? Did you? 40 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: I did not know? And this she sent me a 41 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: picture of Prince. He tweeted a picture We're going to 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: post it when this episode comes out of himself dressed 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: and it says a gladiator in a suit, and it's 44 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: Prince in like a beautiful suit. My god, from his 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: fucking own personal. 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Oh coount, my god. 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: I'm showing this to g right now on the phone, Like, 48 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: can you even handle this for one second? 49 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: Katie? 50 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: This was when he was alive. 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: We have to retweet this like when this episode as 52 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: this is amazing. 53 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: This is how I never how did I know? 54 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: Right? 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: But to be honest, Katie, remember it was like a 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: whirlwind of things happening around us when shows were airing. 57 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: In the tweeting, it was a lot going on in 58 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: our worlds, right, Like there was a lot of shit, 59 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: So we probably just missed it. But it's Prince. How 60 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: did we freaking miss Prince? 61 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: The fact that he even sat somewhere and watched anything 62 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: of me doing anything is like absolutely fucking insane to me. Yeah, 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: we have somebody coming on so special for you gladiators 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: out there, and my mouth is already watering because she 65 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: could win the award for bringing the best salads and 66 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: the best fucking food that in seven years of scandal 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: that we ever saw this person. 68 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: And I first bonded over cum quats because she has 69 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: the most amazing cum quats that she grows in her 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: backyard and she brought me some and she used to 71 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: put them in her salad, and ugh, now I can't get. 72 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: Enough of her constant watering. She is incredible. She would 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: come in to work sometimes with dirt under her nails, 74 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: like and having to get a manicure in this and 75 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: everything because she's like to put her hands in the 76 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: earth because she's so fucking real. 77 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: She is uh the best. 78 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: Born and raised in a little town off of Alaska, 79 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: like I think an island uff of Alaska, and her 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: dad growing up was one of those deadliest catch fishermen. 81 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: Do you know that? Yes, yes, yes, And I'm. 82 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: Convinced it's why she's such an incredible actress because she literally, 83 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: in my head, she just grew up playing imagination all 84 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: the time because literally no one was the fuck around. 85 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember she told me a story once that she, uh, 86 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: the weather there was so crazy and we could ask 87 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: her this when she pops on, that she jumped up 88 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: or something in the wind like blew her away because 89 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: she was so skinny at the time. I mean, my gosh, 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: when she comes. 91 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: On, she is incredible. She's also the inventor of the 92 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: eye hug. Yes, we're going to talk to you about yeah, 93 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: because she needs to explain to you all what that 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: is in all its glory. She was the last person 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: hired of the series regulars on Scandal. We were waiting 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 2: and waiting and waiting. 97 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: That's a very good fun fact, Katie. Yeah, hell yeah, 98 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: she was the last one. 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: Who the hell was going to be playing? Yeah, Abby Wheeling. Yes, 100 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: And we are here today hanging out with one of 101 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: our true true other gladiators from Olivia Popan Associates, the 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 2: one and only Darby stanch Oh. Oh yeah, I'm honestly 103 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: going to be emotional. 104 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 4: Oh my god, dubs, Miracle you guys, dum. 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. We've had other people on Carrie, John 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: and Tony, but no one makes me feel like kind 107 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: of emotional, like. 108 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I don't know, because if we 109 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: were the crew. 110 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: Right, we were like more in the trenches or something like. 111 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: I just feel like I feel like the three of us. 112 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: And then of course the first three seasons Columbus were like. 113 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: It was special. Yeah. 114 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 4: It reminds me a lot of the same that I 115 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: feel with people I did an MFA program with, Like, Yes, 116 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 4: we've seen each other in absolutely every single state of mind, 117 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 4: and I feel like I know you guys better just 118 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 4: by looking at you. That's the words that I know 119 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 4: most people. Yes, familiarity. 120 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 2: I completely agree. Can we just stay for the record 121 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 2: that you are so beautiful? It is a show like 122 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: it is a shock to the system, Like she's here 123 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: with her long red hair and her beautiful face, and 124 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: we've been like g and I have watched the first 125 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: two seasons and you are so remarkable. You have so 126 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: much amazing material. And by the way, this just occurred 127 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: to me. We're in these two seasons before you even 128 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: became the fucking chief of staff. 129 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, the secretary I know, which was like a 130 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 4: whole inner series for me. 131 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you became red right, like the. 132 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: Nicknames, and then I had that big TV hair and 133 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: started wearing the dresses and you know, and then when 134 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: low status like trying to get in the bubble at 135 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: the White House and being called Gabby, Yeah, like it 136 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 4: was a whole different thing. Yeah. 137 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 2: First, tell us your origin story of how you joined 138 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: the Scandal family. Do you remember your audition or where 139 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: you were in your life. 140 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 4: I remember that you guys, I had been binging Damages 141 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 4: with Nails and Rose Byrne, and I was at a 142 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: point in my career where I was like, Okay, I 143 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: really want to play a woman like this. You know, 144 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 4: on a show like this, where you know, they get 145 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 4: to do all the big things and they're and they're 146 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: like the main event. And I was at a point 147 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: where I was like I might quit acting. And that 148 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: was the first summer really thought that way where I 149 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: was like, if I'm only going to be called to 150 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 4: be on a you know, a guest star on some 151 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: sort of episodic where I cry over you know, a 152 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: dead husband, I'm going to go do something else. So 153 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: I was in that state of mind when I auditioned 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: First Gamble, and I was just not having it. I 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: was so no nonsense in my life. What you see 156 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: is what you get. I walked in the room and 157 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: Betsy Beer's, you know, Betsy Shadder in the room, Paul mcwigan, 158 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: Wenda lay. Betsy says, that's a great suit. And as 159 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: opposed to saying you know what the designer was or anything, 160 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, well, it's nothing special. It's just 161 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 4: all a lot of good tailor you know, so abby 162 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 4: wheeling so much true, Yeah, so true. I think Betsy laughed. 163 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 4: And then we did the audition. 164 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: What was the scene? 165 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 4: I had like three four scenes that one page is 166 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: of war where I where I learned this big clue 167 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 4: and I so there's that like kind of awkward side 168 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: of Abbey that we see. There was a monologue that 169 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: was never in the show that Shonda wrote about Stephen 170 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: how Steven smells like apples and man, wow. 171 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: Well god, we see it all over your face in 172 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 2: a bunch of episodes. 173 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: Anyway, we did the scenes and I got done and 174 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 4: sat down and there was pure silence, and Shonda was 175 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: just staring at me. And you know, Sho is like 176 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: this presence and sure her brain is going, but she doesn't. 177 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: You know, it's like time has stopped. Everyone stopped. Everyone's 178 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: looking at her again. Because of the frame of mind, 179 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: I was at take it or leave it, you know, 180 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: I didn't start to oh, thank you so much, yeah, yeah, 181 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: anything again. 182 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: I just sat whatever, this is it. 183 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 4: I stared right back at her. You did that for 184 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 4: like a minute. 185 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: Wow. 186 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty intense. 187 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 188 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: That's mostly what I remember. And then I had to 189 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 4: come back again, I think for some suits who needed 190 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 4: to see with my hair down and can she cry 191 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So he did another little round. 192 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 4: But at that point I could tell. 193 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: This all happened very quickly though, right Darby, because I was. 194 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 4: The last one to be cast. 195 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, do you guys remember this? 196 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: Oh? 197 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: We we had been we had been rehearsing this show already, 198 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: we had been rehearsing the pilot and we were all like, 199 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: oh my god, who's going to play Abbey? Who's going 200 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: to play Abbey? 201 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 4: And then okay, and I have two very specific memories 202 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 4: of you guys really. But first was so I get 203 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: cast and we go to the Prospect Studios Prospect Studios, right, 204 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 4: and you guys are we're all waiting for like screen 205 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 4: tests or something or rehearsal or something. And I walk 206 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: to the where all this is happening, and Katie, you're 207 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 4: one of the first ones I see. Do you remember this? 208 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: What I remember like yesterday and you're sitting there. I 209 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 4: remember where you were sitting at this table and you 210 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: look up at me, and you know your face, I mean, 211 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 4: you have this sunshine face. You have the most beautiful, 212 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: kind eager like I can't wait to meet my new classmate, 213 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 4: you know, my new show. 214 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: I felt, I. 215 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: Know, and you were so I just remember your radiance 216 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 4: and I was like, Okay, this is gonna be fun. 217 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: I remember that moment so well. I was sitting at 218 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: a table that had a chair attached to it or something, 219 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: and you can walk in, and you were wearing your 220 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: suit that I think you auditioned in, like I don't 221 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: know or no, was it the suit? 222 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 4: You know, I don't actually know what I was wearing 223 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 4: in that moment, But for rehearses, I was like in 224 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 4: a long black coat of my own that ended up 225 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 4: being very much like what Abby wears. 226 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: It just made me feel like, well, I just. 227 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: I'm a sucker for a long black tailored coat. And 228 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: then Jared, when we did cut you a couple of 229 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: days later after warhears as, we did a studio read, 230 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: a read for the studio read for the network, and 231 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: it was like a big room of you know, all 232 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 4: the important people. And I remember coming into this room 233 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 4: and I was feeling very much like I often do, 234 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 4: like like a watcher, like just kind of quieter, and 235 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 4: you were doing that. You were quiet, no one was 236 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 4: talking to you were already sitting down, I think, at 237 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: the table, and I went up and I joined you, 238 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: and I just remember, I just remember like that being 239 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 4: the first moment of connection of like okay energy. 240 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember that and moving forward from there. 241 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: Every time you and I had a scene together. When 242 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: we started shooting, it just felt special because our worlds 243 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: didn't really collide that much, right, Like on screen. 244 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: I know special task, special group of individuals. I feel 245 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: very connected to each and everyone, especially this Gladiator. 246 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. 247 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: I mean going back to these cases of the week 248 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: and like you being up on the board and you 249 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: being like, I do know that Wally. 250 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: Was She's pulling out that like hair from the from 251 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: the drain in that one episode. 252 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 4: An investigator, right and taking. 253 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: Super into Steven. The episodes were like you find out 254 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: Steven's sleeping with prostitutes, and you have all these amazing 255 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: lines in the first season when you're like finding out 256 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: what hardwood floors are, like the drapes and the curtains, 257 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: and like you're the snarky, ironic character dry so needed, 258 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: so funny, and your relationship with Olivia is just. 259 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Like so good. We'll be right back, guys. 260 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: Are there any memories that you have that really stick 261 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: out from the pilot? 262 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, shooting in the original building downtown for some reason 263 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: that period of time. I think it's because we had 264 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 4: to do all night shoots. Yeah, because of we were 265 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: shooting night for night I guess right, And it was 266 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: also maybe just when we could get in there. I 267 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: don't remember. We were there all night long in that giant, 268 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: drafty building and there was a jewelry robbery that there 269 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: was a robbery that happened across the street at the 270 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: jewelry store for real. 271 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: I love that you remember that the jewel heighst and 272 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: we all couldn't leave the building. They resolved it or. 273 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: Whatever, and so I just remember the sequence that all 274 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: night long, like we were doing a sequence where it 275 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: was the cloths feeding up but you see all the 276 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: different evidence going up on the board and then and 277 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: how long that took didn't fail me even though it yeah, 278 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 4: you know, in Paul mccueigan's style, it sped up really 279 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: really fast and takety seconds. But how many hours that took? 280 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: Do you remember the windows leaking because it was raining outside? 281 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: It was it was raining. 282 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: It was drafty, it was yeah, I mean, wasn't there 283 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: like a crazy elevator situation just to get up there? Yes? 284 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 4: I was well, I was having my own high health drama. 285 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 4: I was having I was getting blisters. 286 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: I remember that because you were stockings in. 287 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: The show my god, it was so awful. It was 288 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 4: It's so funny being were like, you know, you can 289 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: change shoes, even though we've shot half those things. You 290 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: need to change shoes because I. 291 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 3: Was just. 292 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: They were so supportive, you know, and literally just finding 293 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: our feet, understanding what the tone of the show was 294 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 4: and everything. But you know, when your boss will say 295 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 4: something like that, you feel quite supportive. Yeah, I'm sure 296 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: struggling with something so technical. 297 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, flashing forward, Darby, do you remember you and I 298 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: were shooting a scene. I think it was the last season. 299 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: We were in a scene We're at a party, and 300 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: we were like, let's try like Huck is rubbing your feet. 301 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: We rehearsed the scene where I'm rubbing your feet, and 302 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: I think Tom was like, yeah, I don't I don't 303 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: think I don't remember that. 304 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 4: Oh shut it down. 305 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, I thought it was. 306 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: Why I would have liked it. 307 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: Was you and I liked it because we were tired. 308 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: It was very like, you know, just like your little 309 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: or older brother. I was gonna say a little brother. 310 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: Maybe he thought it would just like lead to too 311 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: many questions. 312 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly interesting interesting debut. 313 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: Did you know about Abby's backstory at all about the 314 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: abusive husband, about any of that before you got the 315 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: role was that. 316 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 4: No, I did not know. And this particular episode was 317 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: an interesting moment in that in that whole story, I 318 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 4: did not know that at all. And I think it 319 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: first comes up in season one between Olivia and Abby. 320 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 4: Think it's a very inflammatory scene. I don't remember all 321 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: the words, but I remember Abby basically really sticking into 322 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 4: Olivia and saying, you've got your names on that door 323 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: you have to fix. You've got to say it, just 324 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: like you've helped me out of this relationship. And I 325 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 4: didn't know much. And you know, when I think about it, 326 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 4: it wasn't like I was briefed about it or you know, 327 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 4: I just sort of learned as we went, and then 328 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 4: I I researched, you know, domestic abuse. I started to 329 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 4: build a backstory like we all do with these characters. 330 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: And then, you know, it's so interesting because every time 331 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: that Abby had anything domestic abuse come up about her 332 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 4: past relationship or a trigger in some way, it always 333 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 4: was like a very PTSD kind of experience. I, as 334 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 4: an actor, didn't know how these scenes would turn out. 335 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 4: It was also surprising what was written in the scripts. 336 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 4: It was new, and I would have a very visceral 337 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: reaction to the material and I wouldn't get to. 338 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 2: Collectual about it or yeah we were I feel like 339 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 2: that was the process. 340 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 4: It was very very strange how how that process was, 341 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 4: and now it affected me. But I think in the 342 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 4: episode that we're talking about, there's a scene where Abby's 343 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: waiting for David in his apartment and there's no words 344 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 4: and Abby slaps him. 345 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god, but that's your brilliance? Are your few? 346 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: Me and Carrie used to say this about you. Only 347 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: Darby can go from like is she gonna laugh? And 348 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 2: then she gets a twinge of emotion and then you 349 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: can see her bury it and then you can see 350 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: like anger come out, but like in your face. Without 351 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: them writing anything, we could see all of that on 352 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: you so beautifully, And. 353 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: In this episode it happens. In this episode you go 354 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: from like anger to lust to hatred to emotional oh 355 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: my god. 356 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: Almost crying, to the relationship that couldn't be. Oh my god, 357 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 2: we're going to get there. I can't even taking like 358 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: such a hard left turn. And I talk about how 359 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: delicious the salads you made on set for or whatever 360 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: food you were bringing in, and honestly, you would come 361 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: in with fucking ship that I don't know if you'd 362 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: grown in your own garden manicure because there's dirt underneath 363 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: my nails. 364 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: We enjoyed watching your salads. We just. 365 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: The spinach, the like nuts. There'd be like it was delicious, 366 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: and then you'd always put lemon and stuff in like 367 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: a little lemon baggy to like squeeze it. I was like, 368 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: she is the classiest bitch guy, remember, oh. 369 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, that's a wonderful thing to be obs 370 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: that is, you were a great cook. 371 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 2: And also can this bring us to I do think 372 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: you also grew grapefruits and you had the most incredible 373 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: Instagram video during COVID that saved all of our lives 374 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: where you instructed us all how to cut said grapefruit 375 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: while you had a breakdown of hysteria, which glass of 376 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: Darby can only break like that. 377 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what happens when you were quarantine. 378 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: And and it wasn't only in one way. You had 379 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: different ways you could do it. You were like, well 380 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: you could do slices or you could do cute, which 381 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: was brilliant. 382 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: You are the most delicious human being Oh my god, 383 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: do you remember in DC for the penultimate episode when 384 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: you and George and all of us we were like 385 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: running around at like the John Wilkspooth Theater where Lincoln 386 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: got shot, and we were running around to the bathrooms. 387 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: We were like freezing cold, but we were just running around. 388 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: Like you said, I think you nailed it like classmates, 389 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: like as if they were like back in elementary school, 390 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: like almost giddy. 391 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 4: Some of my favorite memories of all of us are 392 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: like backstage before we go on to do Haimy fest 393 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 4: or or Jimmy Cammel, you know, just these sort of 394 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: backstage moments where we're in the wings and publicity is 395 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: set to work. That's like, really, you know, you're not acting, 396 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 4: you're selling your show. But it was always play with everybody. 397 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: There was always there was always We sent so many 398 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: upfronts together in New York, and I just remember being 399 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: like going through backs of kitchens, you know, being in elevators. 400 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: I forgot about that. 401 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 4: Waiting at the upfronts, for instance, and there'd be all 402 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: these other shows and all these other casts. It would 403 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 4: be quite dry and kind of a corporate day. And 404 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 4: if we would just be like yucking it up. 405 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: We were rock stars. Man. That was so much fun, 406 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: you know what I. 407 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 4: Mean, just the chemistry, the fun that we all have together. 408 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: There's just this now actual band or so such a you. 409 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: Know, do you get recognized? I wanted to ask you 410 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: because I feel like I can hide really easily. G 411 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: sticks out like a sore thumb. And I've always been like, God, Darby, 412 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: must stick out like a sore thumb. Even though you're 413 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: very good at stuffing that red hair underneath the hat. 414 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 2: You're just so tall, You're a giraffe. I mean you 415 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: to me, you would stick out even if I didn't 416 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: know you. 417 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 4: I definitely enjoyed when we were in the thick of 418 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: the pandemic and we were wearing gasps everywhere. I really 419 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: enjoy that. 420 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: Yes, but I still. 421 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: Got recognized with that because of my red hair. So 422 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 4: you're right, if I put a hat on, I do 423 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: feel like right now I'm getting recognized. For the last role, 424 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 4: I did a lot more, only because I look more. 425 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 4: My hair's a little bit more. It's not as red 426 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: as when I was on Scandal. You know, I really 427 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: bumped up the red there for a bit. But yeah, 428 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 4: you know, here and there. 429 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: For the listeners. Darby plays Nina Locke on an amazing 430 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: show called Lock and Key. It's on Netflix, yes, and 431 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: I don't know why it took me so freaking long 432 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: to start watching it. 433 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 4: But because there's so much content cabs now. 434 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: Truly, how was that experience shooting Lock and Key? 435 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 4: It was great? 436 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nice. 437 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 4: It happened just, you know, several months after Scandal. It 438 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 4: was a three season a run. I liked it because 439 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: it was something so totally different from Abbey Wheeling, that 440 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: kind of a murder mystery so good, wrapped up in 441 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 4: a show that's very magic or kind of light horror oriented. 442 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 4: So it was all very very different from Scandal. The 443 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 4: world of it, well. 444 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: Except for another Scandal cast member who is on Lock 445 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 2: and Key, Brendon Brendan Hines, Mister Tatiana Maslani or to grow, 446 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: mister Xana Bayou. Gideon Wallace also was on Lock and Key. 447 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 2: Working with Darby. Was that so crazy? 448 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 4: It was crazy. It's so funny. I every once in 449 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 4: a while I'll still text him a picture of us 450 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 4: rolling him up in the carpet. Remember, yeah, he dies, 451 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: there was a photo that we have, or the whole 452 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: all of it are standing over him. Katie, you're so bloody, 453 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: you're in air. Yes, and we literally roll home up 454 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 4: in this carpet. So I'll just send him out without 455 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 4: any words. 456 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: I love that. 457 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 4: Back to the good old. 458 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: Days, hilarious. Earlier on, when we were recording these episodes, 459 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: I was the one that told Giermos, like, guess what 460 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: Brendan Hines did in COVID He got married Tatiana Maslani, 461 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: and Geirmouth thought, I said, Oxana by. 462 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 5: Lesle what So it sends us down a real long 463 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 5: imagination train of what what Idi and on Oxana's children 464 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 5: would be like or something. 465 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: Darby, will you do something with us? When we get 466 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: to the synopsis? Would you do us the biggest solid 467 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: If I read the first paragraph, g is going to 468 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: read the second, and you'll read the little third paragraph, 469 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: and we're going to try. 470 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 6: Yours. 471 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: Oh no, we only got a year, and it's remarkable 472 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: how far we have fallen, you guys. To day we 473 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: were talking about we have Darby Stanchfiel here, the one 474 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: and Only Abbey Wheel and we're talking about episode two 475 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: oh nine, which was titled blown Away. It aired on 476 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: December thirteenth of twenty twelve, and it. 477 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: Was written by Mark Wilding and directed by Jessica Yu. 478 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 2: It was guest starring Susan Porfar as Becky Flynn, Kate 479 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: Burton is Vice President, Sally Langston, Greg Henry is Holly. 480 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 6: Bally Doya, Dan Bucatinski is James Novak, George Newburn our 481 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 6: Georgie as Charlie, Deborah Mooney as Vernon Thornton, Shannon Cochrane 482 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 6: as Attorney General, Susan Sawyer, and Kate McGregor Stewart as Mary. 483 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: Here's the synopsis, Sorry, Ready, here we go. Olivia and 484 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: the OPI team are shocked Whenhuck reveals that he's the 485 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: person the FBI are looking for in connection with Fitzest shooting. 486 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: As the team gets to work uncovering the truth about Becky, 487 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 2: Huck spirals and denial until Becky asks Huck to run 488 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: away with her, admitting the truth of her involvement and 489 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: and her background. 490 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: As Huck struggles with the decision to run away with Becky, 491 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Olivia and doors fittest potential funeral planning, and Cyrus looks 492 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: into exactly what James knows about defiance. As Huck finally 493 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: decides to stay Becky anticipates his betrayal and kills the family. 494 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 4: Howkwak Holostyle is up to even more tricks as he 495 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 4: gives Sally Langston and nothing inform mentioned about Berna Thor 496 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: to put her off the bench. But Verna has plans 497 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 4: of her own when she offers to resign or give 498 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 4: it the name of the person who wanted for shooting 499 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 4: the president. 500 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like. 501 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 2: Riding a fuck you guys my heart right now? 502 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: Yay, that's anxiety and. 503 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: You have that in spades, yes, oh yeah. First and foremost, 504 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: the biggest scene from this episode that shows the emotion 505 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: is like you said, it's the fingers in his mouth. 506 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Darby? Was that your idea? 507 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: Was that in the script? 508 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm so glad you asked this farm because that 509 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 4: I have been asked this question so many times from fans, 510 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: from fans and from you know, like every time we 511 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 4: do press interviews. That was one of the questions I asked, 512 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 4: which prizes me because we were so bound to the script. 513 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: And I remember after a table reached on and I said, Okay, 514 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna write the scene you know how she does. 515 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna write the scene for you guys, and we 516 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 4: get the scene and there's no words. What we did 517 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 4: is exactly what she wrote. What we werehearsed it just 518 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 4: like you would, you know, some sort of stunt, whether 519 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: it's violence or sex or whatever those sort of sequences 520 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 4: in TV land. You know, it was very technical and 521 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,479 Speaker 4: it was very much like a dance, like you put 522 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 4: your foot here, you put your fingers here, go on, 523 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 4: and so it was really really clinical and it was 524 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 4: all shown it. She was all that she wrote under. 525 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: Why did she ever say. 526 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 4: Why I didn't ask her about the scene. I didn't 527 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 4: discuss it with her. I almost felt like it was 528 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: so powerful on its own. I just wanted to do it, 529 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: execute it kind of without thinking. It goes back to 530 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 4: what I was saying about, you know, finding more about 531 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 4: Abbie's backstory, and this is the first I mean, what's 532 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 4: so astonishing for me about the scene is it's the 533 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 4: first time you see Abby's maybe her past domestic abuse, 534 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 4: violence stuff sort of creep up in her life in 535 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 4: a present day way that she's initiating and it's like, yeah, 536 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,400 Speaker 4: it's tied up with. 537 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: Her lover, her trauma. 538 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 4: There's so many questions about that and he accepts it. 539 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: And he's so submissive to you. Yeah. 540 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an astonishing scene. There's so many questions. 541 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: But Darby, what about the smacking? You really smacked him? 542 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: I thought me and Katie have a scene where she 543 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: smacks the shit out of me like three times. I 544 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: lost my hearing for about twenty minutes. But I was 545 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: in Katie's defense. I was like, smack me for real, 546 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: do not play smack me? And then I was like, 547 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: what what did you say? But it looked like you 548 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: really smack Josh. Did you guys have a conversation about that, 549 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: about smacking him, how that was going to be, how 550 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: that you were going to do that. 551 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 4: I don't really recall. I don't except that it was 552 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: just like this sheet that John had written all of 553 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 4: these actions, and it was just try and remember one 554 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 4: thing in the saint, you know, in the right order, 555 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 4: and do it with no words. 556 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: First we come in first, I do this. Then I 557 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: shot up him twice. Then we pull apart. Then I 558 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: put fingers down, and then I lift my skirt. Then 559 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: I pushed it out. 560 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 4: It was three fingers. I think it was so specific, you. 561 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: Know, But you guys did it so well. You could 562 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: have done all that, and it could have been a 563 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: shitty scene. But the reason that people remember it is 564 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: because you guys played it so well, so. 565 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: Real, so good, so good, He's so good, and it's 566 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: so you can see her feeling like embarrassed and then powerful, 567 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 2: and then hating him and then wanting to be with him, 568 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: and then being sad for where they were, what their 569 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 2: relationship could have been, and just like there's so much 570 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 2: and then she literally lifts her skirt up. You have 571 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: sex with them, and then there's this whole moment where 572 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: you stand up and you repull your skirt down over 573 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 2: these amazing tights, thank you Lyn paw Right. They're thigh 574 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: highs kind of thing, and then you flip your red 575 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: hair in like a sexy way, which was incredible, and 576 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: then you just pull your skirt down, fix your sort 577 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 2: of jacket, and then you like walk out of the 578 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: apartment and just fucking leave his ass. 579 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: But that look she looks back at him and has 580 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: this face where she's like about to cry, but no, 581 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: fuck you, I'm not gonna cry. 582 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: So emotional. Like other huge moments of this episode, this 583 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: is the episode where Becky, played by Susie poorfar. She 584 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: finds out that Huck might be framing her to be 585 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: caught for shooting the president, and to get back at Huck, 586 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: she shoots his family. Yes, and I remember being at 587 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: the table read because she shoots the two little girls, 588 00:30:58,720 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: the mom, the dad, and the. 589 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: Dog, and people were more upset about the dog. People 590 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: were like, remember that bitch. Yeah right. This was the 591 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: first episode that I I mean, and I did this 592 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: several times after this that I called my managers and 593 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: I told them what I was going to be doing 594 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: in the episode because I was so excited and what 595 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: was happening in the episode, Like I've never done that 596 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: with another job, Like on this job, I feel like 597 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: I did that a lot. 598 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really cool. It's really sweet. 599 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: And the fact that Seanda went there with that scene 600 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: of you know, we see that whole family dead. 601 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, but I didn't need to pull back on it. 602 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 603 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 4: And we're talking season two, so everything was so shocking. Yes, 604 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 4: it's almost like season one establishes the show. It feels 605 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 4: quite procedural, and season two it just goes off. 606 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: The rail, totally off the rails. At the end of 607 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 2: this episode, they take Hawk under the Patriot Act and 608 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: so we start the whole journey of him being like 609 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 2: waterboarded and orchard in the Pentagon and all that kind 610 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: of shit. But there's also just such great stuff in 611 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: this episode, as per usual, with just God, you worked 612 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: so much with Columbus, Like what was that You guys 613 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: really were the core of OPA, because Quinn's really the 614 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: newbie and Huck is a fucking weirdo beyond and not 615 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: that Abby and Harrison aren't, but Abby and Harrison are 616 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: sort of like the stronghold, like, and I see that 617 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: so much in this episode because this episode, Olivia's kind 618 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: of moved back into the White House and she's. 619 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's back and forth. It did feel like in 620 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 4: season two more and more Abby and Harrison were being partnered, 621 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: but they were being assigned more together, and so you know, 622 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 4: it kind of worked, I think great in that Harrison 623 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: was so sort of charismatic and loose and charming and 624 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: Abby is like such a smart ap and a cut 625 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 4: you know, like they just seem like opposite. So I 626 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 4: remember having they're being nice, nice scenes. They're written for 627 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 4: those characters where you can really feel the opposites. 628 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking about this, like your Josh Molina stuff was 629 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: so amazing in seasons one and two. I mean, Josh, 630 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: Abby and David Rosen were really the first couple that 631 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: they wrote on Scandal, other than the ones that had 632 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 2: already been established, Like we'd already had Fits and Olivia, 633 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: we already had Cyrus and James. Yes, yes, but when 634 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 2: he breaks you up because Olivia is telling Harrison like 635 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: your one job is to make sure that David and 636 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 2: don't ask me why, but David and Abby can't be 637 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 2: together because the two of you are going behind your 638 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: back and putting the pieces together about Cytron and the 639 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: election rigging. He breaks you guys up, and you have 640 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: this amazing scene during the case of the Week is 641 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: like the really really rich millionaire crazy guy. But there's 642 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: a whole episode where you do are on a stakeout 643 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: and you slow dance to some people at a jazz 644 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: You're gonna find a nice guy because he sets David 645 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: Rosen up to make it seem like he had abused 646 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,479 Speaker 2: his past women and. 647 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: You want so bad with Alby's background for her to 648 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: be happy, and then you know yes, and then you 649 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 4: know Harrison, it's such a good guy in terms of 650 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 4: them working together and well, that seems to be a 651 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 4: common theme in this show, doesn't it. You know, the 652 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 4: the things that we our characters do for power or 653 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 4: for you know, to fix something, either in a good 654 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 4: way or or because of being blackmailed or because of 655 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 4: hunger power. It's I remember that, Yeah, I remember. 656 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: That by any means necessary. Right, we got we got 657 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: shit done. Can we talk about you and josh Joshua 658 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: Molina on set? How he would push which he was 659 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: such a ask to. 660 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: You mag your sides down, which, by the way, he 661 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: did to me too. He's a fucking turd. 662 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: Not to me, because I would have been like, look, motherfucker. 663 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: He told josh we said the only people you were 664 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 2: scared of was gear. He never fucked with Germo, really did. 665 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 4: He never rank you. 666 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: He pranked me that one time, and then after that 667 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: he didn't do it again. And I could tell you 668 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: what happened. I don't know. I think he could just 669 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: tell that I was not I was not going to play. 670 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: I was like, don't play with me. But I remember 671 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: I remember him at one point we were in oh 672 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: Pa and we were on wheelie chairs and he would 673 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: grab you while you were sitting down and roll you 674 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: like twenty feet away from everybody. And he would do 675 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: this over. 676 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 2: Over six scenes with this asshole. 677 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: You were such a good sport. 678 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 2: We had him on and I said to him, you 679 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 2: were the most polarizing person of the Scandal crew. 680 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: And what did you say? 681 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: He was psyched about it. He was like, he was like, 682 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: give me all the edge. He loves it. 683 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 4: He loves to be the troublemaker does he wants that 684 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 4: to be his reputation. The thing that I've was most 685 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: humored by, I think, is that every once in a 686 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 4: while we'd have some really neaty scene, you know, I 687 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 4: mean just it would be immediate relationship scene where we're 688 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 4: breaking up, or you know, something a three four page scene, 689 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: lots of words, scandal pace, we're in the makeup trailor 690 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 4: he hasn't looked at at once because he has a photographic, 691 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 4: freaking photographic memory, so he just live in the makeup 692 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 4: care We ran the lines once or twice, and he 693 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 4: knows it like that, where I, on the other hand, 694 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 4: for the last forty eight hours or whatever long and 695 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 4: has this really dissecting this thing I've been I mean 696 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 4: not to say that I'm a slow learner. I think 697 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 4: anybody could be qualified as a slow learner and be 698 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 4: unscandaled for seven users. I think we all learned to 699 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 4: memorize quite quickly, but my process was just so different 700 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 4: from his. I think I got such a big kick 701 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 4: out of that that he he's so good. I mean, 702 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 4: he's such a mass at the verbose role that he played, 703 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 4: and you know, the thoughts are very clear. He executes 704 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 4: it so well. It's so brilliant. But we just would 705 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 4: approach it such different ways, and he'd learned it in 706 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 4: like ten minutes and then, you know, be off to 707 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 4: prank someone else. 708 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: So we will be back with more after the break. 709 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 2: Oh you know what I want to talk to you about. 710 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: Remember I've talked about it on this podcast before, like 711 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: the goodbye process of like like I have to hug 712 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: everyone and say goodbye and all this stuff. And Darby 713 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: was a person who like never moved shit into her trailer. 714 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 2: I remember at the end of season one or something, 715 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 2: you were like, oh, I won't be here when we're 716 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 2: all saying goodbye, like I'm out, thank you, Yeah something 717 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing. Yeah, yeah, can you talk about that a 718 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 2: little bit. 719 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I do remember what you're saying. And it 720 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 4: was at the end of season one. Okay, we shot 721 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 4: seven episodes and we didn't know if we were coming back, 722 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 4: right we were shooting for as a mid season replacement. 723 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 4: So we're we're on the last scenes together in the room, 724 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 4: and it felt like most actors were, you know, we're 725 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 4: really into saying goodbye and getting emotional and hugging a 726 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 4: lot and talking about what it meant to them that 727 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 4: I think it's just a habit that I it's it's 728 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,479 Speaker 4: really just kind of a muscle that I've developed over 729 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 4: time being in this business. Not too high, not too well, 730 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's a protection or a diplomatic you know. 731 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 4: I had a great time, but I'm not I'm not 732 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 4: going to count any chickens before the hatch. I'm not 733 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 4: going to assume that I'm back. I'm not going to 734 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 4: celebrate before it's happened, you know, and even when something 735 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 4: is awarded. My management team said this about me, like, 736 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 4: you're really a funny one because you don't ever get 737 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 4: to I don't burst into tears when I you know, 738 00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 4: when I got scandal or book something huge, O, my god, beautiful, 739 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 4: But that's beautiful and I admire that. And that's the actors. 740 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 4: I mean, we're feeling and we're right. I mean, Katie, 741 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 4: I love your hugging and not letting go. Belly is 742 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 4: very much the same. You're that that kind of love 743 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 4: where you just want to show someone and you're feeling it. 744 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 4: It's so beautiful. Sometimes I was more like that. 745 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: But you know, we're we're a perfect Matt Darby Stanfield. 746 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 4: But I do like it. We're all so different too. 747 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 4: I think that makes it more interesting. You know, you're 748 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 4: all the same. It would be it would be. Yeah, 749 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 4: back to my thing about Josh Wullia. So I think 750 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 4: I enjoy working with them because. 751 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 2: It's just such a different derby. I promise these people. 752 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 2: Can you tell us right quick? What's an eye hug? 753 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? 754 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: She's doing it right now, folks, Yeah, right now? 755 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 4: Who invented that? We were at all of us? We 756 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 4: were in the conference room. Maybe was it Carrien? 757 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: I thought it was you. Yeah, you were the eye 758 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: hug inventor. 759 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 4: I was probably because I'm like kind of like lest contact. 760 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: You were like, don't touch me, stay open there. I'm 761 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: gonna hugging with my eyes. 762 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 2: But that's so sweet. Would we would all stand around 763 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 2: the O PA table and it would be fucking late 764 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 2: at night, we will have been shooting for a million hours, 765 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 2: and then we would just look across and do like 766 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 2: a really nice slow blank to me and say, you know, 767 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 2: she's sending me an eye hug beautiful. Okay, I'm giving it. 768 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: Let's give it. 769 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 2: Darby Stansfield was the inventor of she created it. 770 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take it. 771 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 2: Before we do some tweets at the time really quickly. Gee, 772 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: is there any scenes from episode two O nine that 773 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 2: stick out to. 774 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: You some of the stuff that sticks out? His stuff 775 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: with James and Cyrus. James is back on his ship 776 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: with the side on card and defiance and all of that, 777 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: and there's just such great moments with those two they have. 778 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: They have a scene where they both have sandwiches in 779 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: front of them, and the thing that bothered me the 780 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: most and not one of them to bite that damn 781 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: sandwich fuckers. 782 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 2: We always don't like when any actors don't eat. 783 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 784 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 2: Their whole storyline in this episode is that James is 785 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: on the tail of Defiance and is sort of working 786 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 2: with David Rosen and Cyrus to get him off. The 787 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 2: scent is like, I got you your baby. We adopted 788 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 2: a baby. He's like dangling the baby in front of 789 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 2: James's face to make him stop. And Verna Thornton and 790 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: Sally Langston have an amazing scene in this where Sally 791 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 2: comes and figures out that Verna has terminal cancer. Yeah, like, 792 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 2: I want your fucking seat on the bench. 793 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 1: You want to to step off? 794 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, so much happens. 795 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god. 796 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: By the way, that's every Scandal episode in forty two minutes. 797 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: The amount of plot. Yeah, had incredible writing that goes on. 798 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 4: Is no wonder we're going at stand apace. 799 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to so insane. 800 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: This is also the first time you see Huck have 801 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: sex with with Becky. 802 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I was just going to say that. Yeah, I 803 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 2: wrote Becky and Huck fuck on picks because they're sexces 804 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: on top of all these photos. 805 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 4: You want to know something, that's something I really love 806 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 4: the way that was shot. Yeah, you're on top of 807 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 4: all those pictures and they're laid out at like a rainbow, 808 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 4: I mean, and have sex and roll all over these pictures. 809 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 4: I thought that was really I thought that was a 810 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 4: really neat scene. 811 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jessica you, and Becky sort of saying I want 812 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 2: to be with you, and Huck is saying, well, what's 813 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: your name? 814 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: And she what's your real name? Yeah, and she won't. 815 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 2: Tell him, which means like she's being shady. 816 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a tell for Huck, He's like, oh, you 817 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: don't really love me. 818 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And the episode ends. Verna goes to Sally and says, 819 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm not giving up my bench. I won't give up 820 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: my seat on the bench, but I can give you 821 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 2: the name of the man in the Red Hood who 822 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 2: shot Fits. And then the swat team comes to Opa 823 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 2: and takes drink under the Patriot Act. Yeah, oh my gosh, 824 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 2: it's a little bit time right now. Darbzy's for tweets 825 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 2: of the time. Tweetetetweeteto, tweetoto, tweetwet two tweets of the time. 826 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: Things were insane at dc PsyD on December fourteen, twenty twelve. 827 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 2: Had to repost this and it's a picture. Chicks be like, 828 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 2: I can't stand infidelity, but on Thursdays they'd be like, 829 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 2: oh yeah, because Scandal really made infidelity hot. I've never 830 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 2: seen more fans be more into cheating and loving that 831 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: Fits is just a cheating piece of shit? 832 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 1: Yep, I remember Sue Tanner this this one gladiator. She's 833 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: an old g gladiator. Yes, she tweeted at Scandal ABC. 834 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: I hear there's a buve that will be going around 835 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: in January. The Gladiator flew hashtag scandal, hashtag what the huck. Also, 836 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 1: this is the episode where hashtag what the huck came 837 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,360 Speaker 1: into plate way. 838 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 4: Yes, and I think didn't that hashtags stay around for seasons? 839 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 1: Yes? It did. 840 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 2: What were your ship? Did you have any hashtags? Darby? 841 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 4: Abby? 842 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 843 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 2: Sassy Abby? That's right? 844 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, not like what the heck? 845 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 4: Not like that? And Quinn, what was yours? Was it yours? 846 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: Oh? 847 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm Quinn, bitch. Yes, in response to a monelogue that 848 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 2: I have to you where you're like Lindsey the whole 849 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 2: first season, You're like lindsay this and lindsay that. And 850 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 2: then I turned to you in the bar and I'm like, 851 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 2: I am not Lindsey. My name is Quinn Perkins. Then 852 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 2: I actually walk away and it's actually Harrison who looks 853 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 2: to you and says she's Quinn bitch. 854 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: Oh. 855 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 4: We were all waiting for Quinn to do that. Abby 856 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 4: was just such a Pilber. 857 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: I was too. Let me tell you something. I watched 858 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 2: Quinn in the first season and I'm like, Jesus, let's 859 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 2: get the Carol of Kara. 860 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 4: Nuts from Deetrough the truth. Counts Abby handled her business 861 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 4: and got up and walked out. You go, girl, such 862 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 4: a scandal. And I think she's referring to that scene 863 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 4: that you guys were talking about. 864 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh it's so good, so so good. Melody Baker 865 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: at Evan GML, she tweets Harrison in charge, get your 866 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: ass back here now. She's referring to when he calls 867 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: Olivia and he's like, get back to the office because 868 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 1: because Huck has the rifle that shot the president and 869 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: he yells at her on the phone, get your ass 870 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: back here now, which is the first time we see 871 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: him like talk to her like that that episode. It 872 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: was it was episode. 873 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 4: Factor Carter Away at the end after Families and good 874 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 4: Yeah happen right, Oh just a little water boarding. 875 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's week. We're about to go on like 876 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 2: a whole Hawk journey. 877 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,240 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, let's just talk about Hawk and water. 878 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's right. 879 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 4: Just the water your camel. 880 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 2: It's awful. 881 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,439 Speaker 1: Remember when you stopped. 882 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 4: Showering and the rain. 883 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: Yes, and all you guys make those faces every time 884 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 1: I come around or you guys, are you stink? 885 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 4: But remember later on there's like a whole water episode 886 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 4: where you're under. 887 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 2: Like stuck in a car in a trunk. 888 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: Yes, So between that the showering, the water, I did 889 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: two weeks of rehearsal in a pool with an instructor 890 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: for that episode. Anyway, this podcast is about Darby stanch Field. 891 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 2: Darby, I just want to say we love you, thank 892 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: you for Unpacking the Toolbox of episode two nine. 893 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: Darby, we love you. You're the best. Thank you, thank you, 894 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 1: thank you. 895 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 4: It's an honor to be on your podcast. 896 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 2: Yay. The next episode we have next week is called one. 897 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: For the Dog, well for the dog, bitch, and. 898 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 2: I think we're talking about the dog that Becky Beck 899 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 2: just sh yes. 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