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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly john Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discuss the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds. And Mike Pence is no longer running

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Speaker 1: for the GOP presidential nomination. We have a very special

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Speaker 1: episode with two different House candidates.

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Speaker 1: One is Ron Harris. He is running for Congressman Dean

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Speaker 1: phillips seat. You'll remember Dean Phillips has recently decided.

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Speaker 2: To primary President Biden.

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Speaker 1: Then we'll talk to former Arizona State Senator Kirsten Engel,

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Speaker 1: who is running for Arizona's sixth congressional district.

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Speaker 2: But first we have my friend and.

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Speaker 1: Yours, the host of the Enemy's List, Every Monday's special guest,

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Speaker 1: the one, the only, Rick Wilson. Welcome back, too, Fast Politics.

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Speaker 1: I mean you shouldn't be welcome. You're here, Rick Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Rick Wilson, Mully.

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Speaker 3: Jong Fast as always, I'm pleased to join you.

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Speaker 1: It's a Monday, so it has to be Rick Wilson time.

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Speaker 1: I think we start with talking about everybody's favorite religious zealot,

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Speaker 1: Maga Mike Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Maga Mike Johnson. That's here in the arena for the

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Speaker 3: kind of thrills and spills you the crowd want to see.

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Speaker 3: And here it's Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. We're weird, going to

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Speaker 3: oppose our religious intolerance on you, the American people. That

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Speaker 3: was my weekend monster truck, Mike Johnson pitch. But there

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Speaker 3: you have, yeah, and so.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, it's been since he was elected

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Speaker 1: Speaker and had to have those eighteen Republicans who won

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Speaker 2: Good luck team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they all voted for him, like they found

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan a bridge too far. But we're more than

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Speaker 1: happy to vote for the guy who believes that women

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Speaker 1: should drive.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't quite believe that. But Basil, here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: They were able, the Biden eighteen, the so called problem solvers,

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Speaker 3: he may be more crazy than Jim Jordan, but he

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Speaker 3: does have magnificent hair and much better suits. And that's it.

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Speaker 3: And that's it. He's got Warby Parker glasses. He can't

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Speaker 3: possibly be an insane fascist and so that's their excuse,

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Speaker 3: and they will go out by the way and the campaign, well,

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Speaker 3: I've voted against Jim Jordan because I thought Jim Jordan

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Speaker 3: was just too extreme, so instead I voted for and

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Speaker 3: they will pretend that there is some sort of qualitative

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Speaker 3: improvement over Kevin McCarthy, who, as you know, I've had

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Speaker 3: any number of disagreements with. But look, this was an

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Speaker 3: inevitable moment where the terrorists got what they wanted, and

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Speaker 3: mad Gates and the Terror Caucus got what they wanted.

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Speaker 3: They've now have the first post Trump Speaker of the House.

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Speaker 3: He came in in twenty sixteen. He was shaped as

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Speaker 3: going to go out there and do what he wants

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Speaker 3: To speak the old Republican language. The party used to

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Speaker 3: be divided into three parts, and they balance each other out.

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Speaker 3: Social Conservatives, foreign policy conservatives and economic liberty conservatives. Now

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Speaker 3: it's Trump conservatives, social conservatives, and conspiracy conservatives and those

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Speaker 3: three legs. Mike Johnson is perfectly at home in all

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Speaker 3: of those things. Remember he signed and wrote the amicus

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Speaker 3: brief that one hundred and twenty six members of Congress

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Speaker 2: He's more conservative than the Trump Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: Oh by far. He looks at Cavanaugh says, get that

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Speaker 3: libtard shill off my court. This is a guy who, really,

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Speaker 3: it's not that he believes these things. It's that he

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Speaker 3: a fight as a Christian warrior against the foul deviltry

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Speaker 1: Your race, creed, and sex are what you do, while

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Speaker 1: homosexuality and cross dressing are things you do. He wrote,

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Speaker 1: this is a free country. We don't give special productions

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Speaker 4: Bizarre, just bizarre. It's bizarre.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 1: He called homosexuality inherently unnatural and a dangerous lifestyle that

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Speaker 3: I will tell you one rule that I have Molly,

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Speaker 3: And I don't have any evidence that Mike Johnson falls

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Speaker 3: they have some kind of weird thing going on. Used

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Speaker 3: exactly right. I tell you that's a real rule of

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Speaker 3: no secrets. It would be shocking if he has no secrets.

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Speaker 3: I was told by an evangelical friend of mine he

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Speaker 3: but this guy was a like pretty religious person, pretty

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Speaker 3: the Constitution has other things to say about that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they're basically just giving up the whole church and state.

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Speaker 3: Oh completely, The church is the state in their minds, right.

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Speaker 3: He actually is a person who says the words, we

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Speaker 3: don't live in a democracy. We live in a biblical republic.

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Speaker 3: No fuck face, we don't. In fact, if you go

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Speaker 3: we shouldn't base our government around it. There's an abundant

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Speaker 3: I may have paid that part up, but try me.

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Speaker 3: of course the founders would have appreciated that, especially if

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Speaker 1: All right, so let me ask you, He's not the

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Speaker 2: Not play well with others. Do you know what I'm

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Speaker 3: Or I am aware of what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: So Chairman of the House Ways and Means says Matt

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Speaker 3: Scott Well, when Matt came out and said, oh he

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Speaker 3: quote the political philosopher Walter White, perhaps his best date

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question about that from

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Speaker 1: a purely strategic point of view. So Matt Gates hated Kevin, Okay, fine,

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Speaker 2: Tom Emmer's fine.

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Speaker 1: But what they did here is now they have someone

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Speaker 2: Are they really just screwing themselves here?

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Speaker 3: Well, there's one thing about Kevin that people forget. Kevin.

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Speaker 3: As I've said before, I think even on the show,

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Speaker 3: I don't want the craziest to take over after me

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Speaker 3: mega donors. Eighty five percent of them are pro choice.

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Speaker 3: They are not extremists, they are not evangelicals. They are

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Speaker 2: Right. They just want the tax cuts.

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Speaker 3: They are economically driven, transactionally driven. Give me my tax cuts.

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Speaker 3: going to be remarkable. Again. I have many, many, many, many,

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Speaker 3: many thousands of critiques about Kevin McCarthy. But the some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what happens now.

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Speaker 3: I believe we are in the phase where the Republican

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Speaker 1: We have eighteen vulnerable seats. You have Mitch McConnell, who

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Speaker 3: There's no there there, Molly. There is no one in

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Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell.

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Speaker 3: We should wish Mitch McConnell right now, at least another

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Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell is not exactly going to be out on

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Speaker 2: So you have that crew.

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Speaker 1: And then in Pennsylvania you have you may remember him

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Speaker 3: He'll be back. He's coming back, baby, Dave McCormick. You

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Speaker 3: That's what the magas, That's what they did. I mean

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Speaker 3: Here's the last time I saw Dave McCormick. I saw

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Speaker 1: Ron Harris is a former chief resilience officer for the

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Speaker 2: Welcome, too Fast Politics, Ron.

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Speaker 4: Harris, excited to be here, Thanks so much for the invitation.

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Speaker 1: You are running for Congress in Minnesota's third district.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right now.

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Speaker 1: It is a safe blue seat, right, relatively safe. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 5: You know, when I talk to folks, most folks are

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Speaker 1: And what I think is very interesting is that you

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you got pressure not to go into this race.

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Speaker 4: Right, lots of pressure.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people wanted me to wait and see

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Speaker 5: For me, I'm running because I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: I find it really infuriating that there's this feeling that

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Speaker 2: Like this idea that you.

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Speaker 1: Should be polite when somebody does something that's crazy destructive

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and again, I don't think that these seats are

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Speaker 2: But at least somebody is competing. I mean, otherwise you

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Speaker 5: That's right, and it's something that I really believe in. Again,

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Speaker 5: My nineteenth birthday as well. So I was getting all

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Speaker 5: these happy birthday texts and phone calls. And I say

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Speaker 5: all this to say that experience set me on a

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Speaker 5: trajectory of political participation that I don't think i'll get

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Speaker 5: off of ever again. And that sort of energy it's

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Speaker 5: kept me in politics for fifteen years. What I'm going

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Speaker 5: to do with this campaign is get folks excited like that,

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Speaker 5: to see that political participation is a worthy cause, it's

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Speaker 5: worth your time.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't have to be boring or whatever folks think

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Speaker 4: that is.

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Speaker 5: It actually be fine, and you can find yourself in

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Speaker 5: that space the same way that I found myself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think what I love about your story

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Speaker 1: is I grew up with a single mom too, and

452
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Speaker 1: we had a lot of advantages, but constantly, like the

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Speaker 1: decision was are you going to work? Are you going

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Speaker 1: to be with the kids, And you know, if one

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Speaker 1: of the kids is set and it was just me,

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Speaker 1: I was the only child, and just to have to

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Speaker 1: make those decisions and then to have it affect the

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Speaker 1: long tail of that, it's so hard. And there really

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Speaker 1: are ways in American politics, there are things that the

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Speaker 1: government can do to make life less crushing for mothers

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Speaker 1: and single mothers especial.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and I think we need more people with that

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Speaker 5: story representing us in government to have the experience to

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Speaker 5: be able to speak to those situations and we're really

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Speaker 5: what it felt like. You can read about it, you

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Speaker 5: can hear about it, but to actually experience it has

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Speaker 5: a way of shaping you that I think we could

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Speaker 5: We should see a lot more of that in our politics,

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Speaker 5: to be able to make the connection between political participation

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Speaker 5: to political outcomes, to policy outcomes to live experiences. There's

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Speaker 5: a very clear through line there, and we have to

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Speaker 5: do a better job of making sure that people know

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Speaker 5: that number one, participating is a worthy again, a worthy

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Speaker 5: cause and it's worth our time. But also do our jobs,

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Speaker 5: you know, should I get to Congress, do our jobs

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Speaker 5: to make sure that that system then reflects that ambition

477
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Speaker 5: that we actually prove ourselves right in a sense that

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Speaker 5: when people do show up and participate, good things do happen,

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Speaker 5: and we just have to make sure that people know

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Speaker 5: that and we have to do our jobs to make

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Speaker 5: sure that actually happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was such a good point and also really

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Speaker 1: what government should be.

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Speaker 2: Doing, right, I mean, this is the job. When we

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Speaker 2: watch what's happening in Congress right now? What do you

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Speaker 2: think when you watch that.

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Speaker 5: I talked to voters and I talked to donors, and

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Speaker 5: that's one of the questions I asked me, like, what

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Speaker 5: are you thinking. You must be a bit delusional to

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Speaker 5: want to run into this mess and I laugh. But

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Speaker 5: at the same time, it is a bit of a mess.

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Speaker 5: And for me, I feel like in the contribute and

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Speaker 5: I think that there are a lot of really great

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Speaker 5: people in Congress right particularly on our side of the aisle,

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Speaker 5: that are really trying to make sure.

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Speaker 4: That Garrett actually does work for people.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the day, that's the square focus

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Speaker 5: and I'm instid of the join a group of people

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Speaker 5: who are committed to that. But to answer your question,

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Speaker 5: it concerns me, and it concerns me because the mess

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Speaker 5: that we're seeing in Washington, it trickles throughout other parts

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Speaker 5: of our society. I had this conversation earlier at a

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Speaker 5: conference where people are so turned off by what's going

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Speaker 5: on that they just don't participate. And when good people

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Speaker 5: don't participate, we see what happens.

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Speaker 4: Maga, Mike, you see what I mean?

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Speaker 5: We get maga, mic, We get some again is affable

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Speaker 5: or whatever people describe them as, but is not a

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Speaker 5: good choice. And a vote for him is a vote

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Speaker 5: for a nationwide abortion bank. Right, it's supporting an election denier.

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Speaker 5: We can go down the list, and so when people

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Speaker 5: see that, they opt out. As I'm talking to voters now,

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Speaker 5: they're like, I don't know if I'm even going to

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Speaker 5: vote this upcoming election because of how messy it is.

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Speaker 5: So I'm trying to make the case that, look, we

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Speaker 5: know what the world looks like when we don't participate,

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Speaker 5: what does it look like when we do? How do

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Speaker 5: we make sure that it reflects our desires? And the

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Speaker 5: only way that it can do that is if we participate.

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Speaker 5: But the mess that's going on makes it really difficult

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Speaker 5: to make that case.

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Speaker 1: We've had such high participation, I do think there's a

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Speaker 1: certain amount of burnout. One of the things that Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama did so wow was that he was able to

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Speaker 1: you know, America is an ideal, right, it's an idea,

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Speaker 1: it's founding principles, and I felt like Obama was able

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Speaker 1: to make that taste to voters in a way that

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Speaker 1: is unusual.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think part of it was a combination of highlighting

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Speaker 5: the things that we need to fix. You know, here's

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Speaker 5: what's broken, here's what we need to fix. Here's how me,

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Speaker 5: as a relative outsider, can help fix that. But the

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Speaker 5: thing that really drew me to Obama, and this is

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Speaker 5: something that I try to do in other spaces in

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Speaker 5: my life, is sure, let's identify the things that we

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Speaker 5: need to fix, but let's spend a lot more time

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Speaker 5: thinking about the things that we want to build in

539
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Speaker 5: service of our aspiration. And I think that that's what

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Speaker 5: he communicated well, was if we build this society, if

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Speaker 5: we can build this coalition, here, the dreams that we

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Speaker 5: can actually aspire and achieve. Here, the ambitions that we

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Speaker 5: can make manifest and make real. Instead of just focusing

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Speaker 5: on all the terrible things that are happening and fixing them.

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Speaker 5: It's how do we build towards a future, build towards

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Speaker 5: the vision that we actually want to strive for.

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Speaker 4: And it's a hard walk.

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Speaker 5: It's a hard line to walk because you have to

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Speaker 5: level with people and acknowledge the pain and the fear

550
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Speaker 5: and the suffering and the challenges that they're experiencing. You

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Speaker 5: can't gloss over that and pretend that, oh, let's just

552
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Speaker 5: point to the brighter future. We have to acknowledge it,

553
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Speaker 5: but we also have to say yes, and it can

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Speaker 5: be better. And here's how we can actually do that.

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Speaker 5: And what he did for me and what he did

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Speaker 5: for millions was helped us believe that the future that

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Speaker 5: we all wanted it is actually possible, so long as

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Speaker 5: we do our part to get there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, And I think that's such an important point.

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Speaker 1: Tell me kind of what your district looks like. You're

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Speaker 1: talking to people, and you're talking to voters. You're probably

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Speaker 1: on the ground talking to more people than a lot

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Speaker 1: of us. So what are they concerned with? What's happening?

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Speaker 1: What does your district look like in Minnesota? Give us

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Speaker 1: like on the ground what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, so District three is the western suburbs Minneapolis, so

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Speaker 5: it doesn't include Minneapolis, but a lot of the cities

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Speaker 5: to the west. And it's a very diverse district in

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Speaker 5: many different ways, certainly in demographics, but also in terms

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Speaker 5: of you know, culture, ritual, et cetera. Part of the

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Speaker 5: district is very working classed, very diverse in terms of race, income,

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Speaker 5: et cetera. And then you get more west into the district,

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Speaker 5: there's a bit more median net worth, a bit wider.

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Speaker 4: But the district itself is pretty blue.

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Speaker 5: Rejected Trump soundly both in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty,

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Speaker 5: has been blue for presidential since O eight, has been

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Speaker 5: blue in the House races since twenty eighteen. And it's

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Speaker 5: a district that is younger, but it's a district that also,

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Speaker 5: I believe is can be a microcosm for where the

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Speaker 5: country is going.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: If you look at the elementary schools and middle schools

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Speaker 5: and high schools, you see incredible diversity coming up and

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Speaker 5: our young people, and I think that's true across the country.

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Speaker 5: That's on the demographics part of it, and then the

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Speaker 5: issues that the folks are really thinking about in the

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Speaker 5: third district, are you know, again, they really do not

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Speaker 5: like the mega agenda. That is something that comes up

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Speaker 5: in almost every conversation that I have, that that is

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Speaker 5: a real fear of that coming back and have people

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Speaker 5: having to live through that. People are also concerned about schools.

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Speaker 5: Want to make sure that the school public schools are

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Speaker 5: properly funded. Public schools are properly funded, that kids have

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Speaker 5: access to a good education from pre k all the

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Speaker 5: way through through high school, and that they're set up

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Speaker 5: well to do what they want to do next, whether

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Speaker 5: it's college or something else.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to hear that a lot.

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Speaker 5: I hear a pride in safety and security, but I

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Speaker 5: also hear a creativity when it comes to that.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: So, yes, there's a lot of folks who are really,

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Speaker 5: you know, we need law enforcement. This is where it

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Speaker 5: starts and ends. And there are folks that are saying, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 5: we definitely need law enforcement, but we also need additional

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Speaker 5: comprehensive perspective on how we keep our people safe from

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Speaker 5: every aspect.

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Speaker 4: And then, finally, what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 5: A lot is both fear when it comes to climate change,

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Speaker 5: but excitement about the opportunities that come with the inflation reduction. Act,

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Speaker 5: the new market opportunities and the green economy. People like

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Speaker 5: talking about climate change, but don't like being told what

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Speaker 5: to do, which is a very interesting thing that I'm

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Speaker 5: coming up on.

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Speaker 2: That's really really interesting.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you what sort of a

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Speaker 1: hard question, but I think it's a really good question.

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Speaker 2: It's actually a Jesse question.

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Speaker 1: How would the life of a constituent be different, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you were in the majority.

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Speaker 5: I think what has happened with a hyper focus on

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Speaker 5: the present age, for example, is that it serves to

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Speaker 5: suppress the vote, it serves to suppress activity. It injects

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Speaker 5: a sense of cynicism all out in the current moment,

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Speaker 5: and for me, right through this campaign and ultimately do

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Speaker 5: my leadership, I want to reject that sense of cynicism.

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Speaker 5: I want to articulate and demonstrate the fact that cynicism

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Speaker 5: is actually a strategy. It's a well worn strategy and

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Speaker 5: in many ways to affect their strategy if you're trying

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Speaker 5: to get people to not believe in what's possible, or

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Speaker 5: try to get people not to participate, and so I

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Speaker 5: think what they would experience differently is some enthusiasm about

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Speaker 5: what we have in front of us recognizing the challenges

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Speaker 5: and being clear right about those things, but also being

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Speaker 5: honest and recognizing that again for us, Joe Biden's the

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Speaker 5: only person that's ever been Donald Trump, and he's well

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Speaker 5: positioned to do it again. And if Joe Biden meet

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump again, and people's lives will be significantly better

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Speaker 5: than if he would have lose that election. And I

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Speaker 5: don't think primary Joe Biden helps us when that election,

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Speaker 5: I think it actually hurts us, and so my leadership

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Speaker 5: will look differently. I do not want to encourage the

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Speaker 5: mega agenda by hurting the one person who, behind our

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Speaker 5: votes and behind our participation, helped defeat it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really important. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Molly, thanks for the invitation and theokur to ten with

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Speaker 4: you soon.

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Speaker 1: Kirsten Engo is a former Arizona State senator who is

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Speaker 1: running for Arizona's sixth congressional district.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Fast Politics.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: So you are a Arizona State representative running for Congress.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I actually am not currently in the legislature. I

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Speaker 6: did serve five years and I did run for Congress

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Speaker 6: in twenty twenty one, and I am running for this

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Speaker 6: district again.

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Speaker 1: So, and you're in Arizona's sixth congressional district. So tell

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Speaker 1: us what your race looks like. People are waking up

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Speaker 1: in this district. There is a tremendous amount of interest

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Speaker 1: in this race for me running again for this district

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Speaker 1: after so narrowly losing it last time.

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Speaker 2: Right, you lost by five thousand votes, right.

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Speaker 6: Yes, And you know, people are watching Congress right now.

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Speaker 6: They're watching my opponent. They're seeing that this person who

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Speaker 6: ran as a moderate just siding with the far right

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Speaker 6: on everything from abortion to issues social security and medicare.

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Speaker 6: They're mad, they're disappointed, They're upset with the dysfunction in Congress.

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Speaker 6: They really want somebody in there who is going to

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Speaker 6: work for them, listen to them. Many of them are struggling.

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Speaker 6: Cost of groceries and prescription drugs has gone up. People

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Speaker 6: are watching their rights being threatened and taken away. Arizona

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Speaker 6: is looking at the potential return of an eighteen hundreds

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Speaker 6: law past. At the time that Arizona was a territory

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Speaker 6: hoopskirts and women didn't even have the right to vote,

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Speaker 6: which makes abortion a crime. People are really really upset

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Speaker 6: about this, and they see my opponent going to Congress

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Speaker 6: to strip away their rights over their own bodies by

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Speaker 6: voting for national abortion restrictions. So I'm a community member,

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Speaker 6: I'm a mom. You're a law professor too, Yes I am.

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Speaker 6: And you know I worked in the legislature. It's a

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Speaker 6: tough place, the Arizona legislature, but you know I work

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Speaker 6: across the isle on issues of education funding. That's why

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Speaker 6: I ran in the first place, because I was so

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Speaker 6: upset about the Republican legislature and governor's cuts to public

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Speaker 6: school funding, not even being able to fund a field

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Speaker 6: trip at my daughter's school. And worked on things like

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Speaker 6: criminal justice reform, and you know I'm ready to do

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Speaker 6: that for the district. I had a reputation of somebody

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Speaker 6: who did their damn homework, and I think the people

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Speaker 6: of this district deserve someone who will do their damn

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Speaker 6: homework for them.

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Speaker 1: You're running in a swing district. You lost by very

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Speaker 1: small margin last time. You have a new Speaker of

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Speaker 1: the House. Right took three weeks for Republican to elect

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Speaker 1: Maga Mic. They've done it. Now, do you think I mean?

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Speaker 1: You are running on the idea that there are no

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Speaker 1: or at least when Democrats run in these swingy districts,

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Speaker 1: it's really important to point out that there really aren't

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Speaker 1: moderate Republicans anymore. And I think that this speakership you

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Speaker 1: have these eighteen and Biden district Republicans and then people

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Speaker 1: right who don't have the numbers and who have voted

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Speaker 1: for these very severe extremist candidates like Mega Mic.

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Speaker 2: So talk to me about what this does for your race.

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Speaker 6: Yes, this speakership ending up with Mike Johnson, he is

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Speaker 6: as you say, Mega, Mike, I love it. That is

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Speaker 6: just so far out of where this district is. And

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Speaker 6: for my opponent to have supported him and before him

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Speaker 6: of voting not once, not twice, but three times for

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Speaker 6: Jim Jordan. I mean, let's real, you know, Mike Johnson

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Speaker 6: is is Jim Jordan with a sport code on. Both

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Speaker 6: of them are rabidly anti abortion. Mike Johnson has co

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Speaker 6: sponsored three major pieces of legislation banning abortion nationwide. Mike

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Speaker 6: Johnson is the legal architect of Trump's efforts to overturn

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Speaker 6: the election and subvert our democracy. Rabidly anti gay, for

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Speaker 6: banning a marriage, for slashing security, privatized security, raising the age,

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Speaker 6: denies the science of climate change. This is a moderate district.

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Speaker 6: These are Arizonans, are down to earth, independent minded folks,

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Speaker 6: and they are not extremists. And what we have is

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Speaker 6: an extremist now two spots away from the presidency, two

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Speaker 6: heartbeats away, and that my opponent voted for him is

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Speaker 6: so out of keeping with the priorities of the people

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Speaker 6: in this district.

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Speaker 1: It is amazing to me that you have these real extremists.

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Speaker 1: I wonder now when you're making this case to the

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Speaker 1: American people, I mean, what are people saying in your district?

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Speaker 1: Does you campaign? What is their temperature? What are they

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Speaker 1: concerned with? What are Arizonians worried about?

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Speaker 6: They're very, very frustrated as they watch the Republicans just

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Speaker 6: you know, spinning their wheels, you know, wasting weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, are they upset about that? Does that permeate? Yes?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely. There's real issues that people are dealing with.

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Speaker 6: There's problems that they want Congress to work on. Abortion

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Speaker 6: is top of the mind for people. We are really facing,

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Speaker 6: our young people are facing a national abortion ban. Water,

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Speaker 6: as you know, the Southwest has really been struggling with

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Speaker 6: drought motivated and pushed forward by climate change. And you know,

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Speaker 6: I was talking to a farmer the other day in

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Speaker 6: the southern part of my district. He is well has

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Speaker 6: gone dry because there's been such overpumping of groundwater, and

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Speaker 6: he's lost twenty thousand hens. He is really down to

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Speaker 6: the bare bones of his farm, and he's looking at

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Speaker 6: Congress and what are they doing? Like nothing, And there's

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Speaker 6: just real, real frustration. And we're looking at potentially a

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Speaker 6: government shutdown. We came within hours of it just a

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Speaker 6: few weeks ago, and now with the Republicans just furthering

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Speaker 6: away the time, we're up against that again. So are

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Speaker 6: we going to be able to pass a farm bill

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Speaker 6: to help those I don't know. My opponent has been

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Speaker 6: busy doing things like attaching abortion band riders to the

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Speaker 6: agriculture appropriations bill. This is nuts who is trying to

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Speaker 6: solve our problems. It's somebody who's actually taking us down

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Speaker 6: and embroiling us in these culture wars rather than working

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Speaker 6: on real issues that people have. Can you say more

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Speaker 6: about the importance of the farm bell? Absolutely. I mean,

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Speaker 6: this district is both urban and rural, a lot of

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Speaker 6: rural areas, and farming has been really difficult for a

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Speaker 6: lot of people, especially with the issue of water here.

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Speaker 6: You know, the drought on the Colorado River, the lowering

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Speaker 6: groundwater table as a result of years of neglect and

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Speaker 6: mismanagement here in Arizona over our water issues. And the

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Speaker 6: Farm Bill could do a lot to help our farmers,

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Speaker 6: to build that infrastructure for water to support the farmers

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Speaker 6: where it's needed. Rather than working on issues like that,

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Speaker 6: as we're seeing, Congress is frittering the time away with

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Speaker 6: these battles over the speaker, resulting in a far right

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Speaker 6: speaker who voted for bills to really slash the funding

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Speaker 6: across the board for things like the farm industry.

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Speaker 1: And you really feel like your constituents, for your soon

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Speaker 1: to be constituents understand, they really are aware of what's

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Speaker 1: happening with the speakership fight. It's not just some belwet

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Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't permeate. Absolutely. We're all part of one

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Speaker 1: big news cycle. You turn on the news, what do

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Speaker 1: you see is you see this back and forth and

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Speaker 1: the headlines.

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Speaker 6: So while people may not be following every single change,

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Speaker 6: and this Republican is up for speaker, oh two hours

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Speaker 6: later he's gone and there's another one.

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Speaker 2: They know that.

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Speaker 6: Congress is not working on the problems that they have,

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Speaker 6: and they don't see my opponent standing up to his

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Speaker 6: party in order to stand up for them work up problems.

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Speaker 1: When you are talking to constituents in Arizona, do you

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Speaker 1: think they see this as a fight between democracy and

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Speaker 1: a party that does not believe in democracy or do

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Speaker 1: you think that larger point is largely a democratic thought

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Speaker 1: that just sort of more partisan Democrats have.

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Speaker 6: People in Arizona are seeing the chaos unfold in Washington,

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Speaker 6: d C. And they're wondering who is working to lower

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Speaker 6: the cost of gas and groceries. Not Juan Siscamani, not

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Speaker 6: my opponent. So yes, they're watching and they're seeing inaction chaos, dysfunction,

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Speaker 6: And I don't think with this far right extremist as

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Speaker 6: a speaker, we're going to see any function returning to Congress.

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Speaker 2: How do people in your state feel about Carrie like.

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Speaker 6: Cherry Lake continues to get headlines. I think because she

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Speaker 6: is so far out of the mainstream, she that she

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Speaker 6: won the governorship of our state. So you know, excuse me,

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Speaker 6: I think that's just laughable. So I think Arizona has

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Speaker 6: moved on. They're ready for their lawmakers to get back

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Speaker 6: to work, and they want Congress to work. They are

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Speaker 6: disappointed and frustrated with my opponent and not standing up

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Speaker 6: to people like Carrie Lake and others like her that

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Speaker 6: are in the US Congress that they're not working to

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Speaker 6: make healthcare more affordable, housing more affordable, to restore their

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Speaker 6: rights over their own bodies, their own future. They're ready

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Speaker 6: for leaders that are willing to roll up their sleeves

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Speaker 6: and work. So when I was in the Arizona legislature,

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Speaker 6: I got award as a legislator who did her damn homework.

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Speaker 6: And you know that's the type of a member of

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Speaker 6: Congress that I will be as somebody who does her

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Speaker 6: damn homework for the people in this district.

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Speaker 1: The guy running against is a co sponsor of h

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Speaker 1: R seven. Talk to us about what HR seven is.

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Speaker 6: So HR seven, it's a bill that's designed to chase

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Speaker 6: women off of their private health care plan and really

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Speaker 6: force private health insurance to drop abortion coverage by making

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Speaker 6: sure that not a single dollar of federal money goes

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Speaker 6: toward any aspect of health insurance. And this is going

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Speaker 6: to have huge impacts upon poor women, on women of color,

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Speaker 6: and it's going to have a big impacts on our

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Speaker 6: women in the military veterans who rely on subsidies for

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Speaker 6: their health care. But that isn't the only anti abortion right.

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Speaker 2: He's gone after abortion pills to talk to us about that.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, he has voted against medication abortion to make sure

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Speaker 6: that it cannot be sold in pharmacies. This is safe

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Speaker 6: and legal. Mythipristone been available for years legally by the FDA,

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Speaker 6: and he has voted to restricted sale in pharmacies and

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Speaker 6: restrict its ability to be sent through the mail. And

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Speaker 6: for a large district, a district with a lot of

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Speaker 6: people far away from cities and towns.

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Speaker 2: Parts of this district are very rural, that.

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Speaker 6: Is really going to restrict this right of reproductive healthcare.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it shows that he's not a moderate.

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Speaker 6: No, he is certainly not a moderate, and we knew

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Speaker 6: that before he was elected. He cheered the repeal of

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Speaker 6: Roe versus Wade. When the Dobbs decision came down, he's

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Speaker 6: on video running away from voters who asked him about

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Speaker 6: his position on abortion. He didn't want to level with

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Speaker 6: the voters. And now he's gone to Congress to pass

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Speaker 6: national abortion restrictions so that that right is not real.

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Speaker 6: He's now voted three times, well, now make that four

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Speaker 6: for a Speaker of the House who is rapidly anti abortion,

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Speaker 6: Jim Jordan and now Mike Johnson. So he's been very

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Speaker 6: clear about this and you know that is not where

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Speaker 6: this district is. And you know, I'm a mom of

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Speaker 6: a teenage daughter, and you know this really really hits

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Speaker 6: our young people super, super hard as they see their lawmakers,

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Speaker 6: you know, strip these rights away, their their own rights

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Speaker 6: over their and their own future, their ability to direct

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Speaker 6: their lives. It's really huge for them.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I really appreciate getting to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. Tell us where people can find you.

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Speaker 6: People can find me on the web. My website is

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Speaker 6: anglefo Arizona dot com. We are on Facebook, We're on Instagram,

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Speaker 6: We're on Twitter. They can reach out to us. Love

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Speaker 6: to have their support in this election. It couldn't be

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Speaker 6: more important in twenty twenty four. Abortion rights are on ballot,

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Speaker 6: our democracy is on the ballot. We now have a

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Speaker 6: speaker who voted, you know, not to certify the election.

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Speaker 6: This is a critical, critical election in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 6: I'm very very proud to be running and would love

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Speaker 6: to have folks.

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Speaker 1: Support, and you're one of the eighteen people running for

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Speaker 1: seats in Joe Biden's district. And if only five of

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Speaker 1: those people win, Democrats take the House.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 6: We only need five seats to take back the House

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Speaker 6: and restore these basic freedoms, and this district absolutely could

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Speaker 6: be one of those seats. The route to a majority

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Speaker 6: for the Democrats runs through this district.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you.

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Speaker 4: No Sion.

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Speaker 1: Kirsten Engel is a former Arizona State senator who is

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Speaker 1: running for Arizona's sixth congressional district.

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Speaker 2: Jesse Cannon, my junk fast.

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Speaker 3: There's an account on Twitter called R and C Research

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Speaker 3: that really shows the work that the Republicans put into

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Speaker 3: rigorous thought effort and research. Tell me what you're seeing there.

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Speaker 1: Republicans got very into becoming keyboard warriors, and they decided

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Speaker 1: they would find everything that they felt would embarrassed Democrats.

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Speaker 1: But it happens to be that some of the things

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Speaker 1: they think embarrassed Democrats are actually quite adorable. And also,

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Speaker 1: for some inexplicable reason, this account hates dogs, So anytime

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Speaker 1: Biden pets a dog, it ends up there, you know.

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Speaker 1: But today they focus their ire on California Democratic Governor

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom, who is playing basketball bafflingly in China. Basically,

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Speaker 1: he knocks over a kid and to make sure the

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Speaker 1: kid is okay, he gives them a big hug and

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Speaker 1: then sort of picks them up. It's some wholesome, wholesome

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Speaker 1: whatever this is. We would like to take this moment

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Speaker 1: to call out the RNC Research account on Twitter.

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Speaker 2: As our moment of fuck Ray.

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Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in

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