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Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Scott, I'm Evan, Nobie Williams, and I'm Michael Barr.

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Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast where we

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Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports.

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Speaker 1: Lots of topics to talk about. First of all, welcome back, Scott, Evan.

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Speaker 1: It's the whole team here, dream team back again. Well,

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Speaker 1: I one show, and I feel like I missed a lot. Well,

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Speaker 1: you did so much. We can't even catch the letters,

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Speaker 1: the cards. I appreciate that, keep them emails, texts. You

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Speaker 1: missed the winning lottery ticket that weekend. You're winning lottery tae,

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Speaker 1: what's that? Well, not for you now, because you weren't here.

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Speaker 1: So I was here. I was here in spirit. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll split it three ways. Now we should add something

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Speaker 1: because we are honest with our listeners. We are taping

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Speaker 1: this Tuesday for air. For Wednesday, Michael Barr will not

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Speaker 1: be here. We're gonna miss you. It's up to you

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Speaker 1: want to tell the audience why you're well. The reason

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Speaker 1: why is because I have to have a little medical

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Speaker 1: procedure endoscopy, right. Yeah, they knock you out for that,

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Speaker 1: thank god. Yeah, I thought it would be knocked down

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Speaker 1: that would be cool. If we did a show with

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Speaker 1: me kind of halfway knocked out, that'd be great. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine the stuff he'd come up with, Evan if

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Speaker 1: he was still coming Like all of us, we normally

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Speaker 1: don't have a show with you have that's just got

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Speaker 1: shady in here, all of us did. I thought he

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Speaker 1: was gonna be like, I have to have a deviated

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Speaker 1: septum fixed, and I hope it doesn't change your voice bar,

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Speaker 1: that's your that's your money maker. When you shake your

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Speaker 1: money maker. That's it right there, the voice for radio

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Speaker 1: and they face the match. Everybody says that, boy, that

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Speaker 1: bar sounds good. Every and I mean everybody says, boy,

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Speaker 1: that bar sounds good. They never say it about Evan.

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Speaker 1: They never say it about me, and they shouldn't. I've

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Speaker 1: never heard it. Yeah, yeah, is our first time. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, are you guys gonna quiz me as

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Speaker 1: to whether I listened or not? Because now you know,

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Speaker 1: I know? Okay, give us the word? Now, come on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I remember the Seinfeld where where Kramer

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Speaker 1: figures out his password George's passwort and he gets down,

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Speaker 1: it's like, what kind of man? Oh you? When he

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Speaker 1: gets down to Bosco. I mean for Bar it was

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Speaker 1: either like carburetor or Fortnite and full disclosure, full disclosure.

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Speaker 1: And my wife listened to the show yesterday while she

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Speaker 1: was running or something. Kim came and said, you better

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Speaker 1: be prepared because they have a secret word for you.

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Speaker 1: So Kim is the one that saved me this week.

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Speaker 1: It had nothing to do with me. So fortnite. So

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Speaker 1: you're saying the word is fortnite. That's what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: because she told me it was and some and Steve

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Speaker 1: Harrowitch just texted me and said fortnite, the Fortnite. You

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Speaker 1: want to dance on this one. I've already cop to

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Speaker 1: not listening on like Bar, he said he listened, that

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Speaker 1: was the problem. Well, I did everybody listen to the

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Speaker 1: entire podcast. I don't know what Kim listen to. I've

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Speaker 1: copped to not listening. I was busy yesterday treating camp

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Speaker 1: with the new Jersey Rockets. Well, God bless yes, if

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Speaker 1: the entire podcast was listened to, you would have known

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Speaker 1: that we would have changed the word fortnitely. Kim. Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: wait wait, Steve harrowit's texting right now. Don't get tricked

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Speaker 1: like wait a minute, now, I gotta kill Kim. I

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Speaker 1: thought she did something. Well, looked you like a salmon baby.

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Speaker 1: Plato Plato, Yeah, plato was the word. We changed it

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Speaker 1: on you, man, just to see if you listen to

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Speaker 1: the whole thing. If I'm not here, I'm not listening.

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Speaker 1: Remember that test, and you got to the last sentence like,

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Speaker 1: own and that's it, all right? All right, Well it's

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Speaker 1: not a failed though here I cut to it. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you said nothing. You're trying to help bar years or

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Speaker 1: whatever we did. Thank you, Medina the victory shot that

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Speaker 1: did come very happy with a little smile. You were trying.

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Speaker 1: You were trying the oaky doke on this man. And

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Speaker 1: that See it's a really quick before the show. I

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Speaker 1: But who brought it up? But who brought it up?

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Speaker 1: bar and Novide Williams by themselves. Who can Oh you

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Speaker 1: know what this reminds me of. That wasn't a clean

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Speaker 1: What's our first time? Asked point? Now? What the same

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Speaker 1: question about what's a catch? In the NFL last year?

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna what's a clean tackle? This is going

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Speaker 1: to be terrible for the NFL. You feel it already.

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Speaker 1: It's it's current players, it's former players, it's fans. Just

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Speaker 1: but I'm not like I'm not a lawyer watcher of

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Speaker 1: that's a touchdown? And then they tell me why it's

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Speaker 1: not a touchdown. I I don't get it. And now

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Speaker 1: this is gonna just make it even worse. Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: fans out there who haven't seen, the NFL has changed

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Speaker 1: its rules on tackling. Any offensive or defensive player who

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Speaker 1: for a for a fifteen yard penalty. Uh. Starting this year.

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Speaker 1: They've implemented it in preseason. So far it has not

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Speaker 1: gone over well. There there have been you know a

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Speaker 1: kind of let's not just this is not just Evan

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Speaker 1: knows nothing about this. This one, yeah, which is the

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Speaker 1: other shows This is a star former star of the

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Speaker 1: Princeton Lightweight football fact, if you did not know starber member,

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Speaker 1: remember active or active participatory member of the Princeton lightweight

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Speaker 1: football team, which, by the way, Mr no W. Williams

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Speaker 1: had lost many consecutive games a lot a triple digit amount.

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Speaker 1: I would watch this. This is what the O T

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Speaker 1: things have actually made people watch less football. And that

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Speaker 1: Why do they watch? Do they watch for the carnage?

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Speaker 1: And it is trying to make the game safer. We'll

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Speaker 1: The best teams tackle, they don't miss tackles, they don't

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Speaker 1: Perhaps it's a glimpse as these things keep happening. Perhaps

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Speaker 1: it's a glimpse into the strategy of the NFL that

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Speaker 1: they understand, or they believe that the head trauma issue

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Speaker 1: much as they can. Right now, let's move on to

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Speaker 1: the Sabers. This upcoming season, they will offer a new

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Speaker 1: option for sharing season ticket packages through a partnership with

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Speaker 1: split season Tickets. Ready for this one already, You're ready

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Speaker 1: to be good here, Evan Novie Williams. What would we

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Speaker 1: as you might guess out there, Evan and I, you know,

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Speaker 1: we sit next to each other bar sorry, on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the building here a bloomberg. But Evan,

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Speaker 1: one of the ridiculous things. But some time ago, Evans said,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why there isn't somebody out there who

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Speaker 1: puts like partial season ticket people together. I finally want

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Speaker 1: ten games that they want five that somebody can aggregate

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