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Speaker 1: Hi, check. Hello, it's the end of the week. I'm

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Speaker 1: really talking about tgif y'all.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, depending on where you listen from, Like it

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Speaker 3: is full on summer in Nashville. Liked it got hot,

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Speaker 3: it got hot. I mean, so Fridays now feel even

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Speaker 3: better because it's like it's a freaking weekend.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's be honest, because you're going out on the.

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Speaker 2: Boat, I know, I know, or to wave country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. A man love some water, yes I do.

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Speaker 1: We were talking earlier today about what we were going to

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Speaker 1: talk about today, and as you guys know, we always

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Speaker 1: base it on something that I talked about on the

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Speaker 1: Wednesday podcast with whatever expert that I'm talking about whatever

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Speaker 1: topic with that week. And this week Marv was on

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Speaker 1: to do our June astrology report, and I was telling you,

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is the first time I think

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Speaker 1: Marv and I have disagreed on something, which was very funny.

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Speaker 1: I think we were actually saying more of the same

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Speaker 1: thing than I thought, but we had the words attached

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Speaker 1: to it right confused, and so there was one point

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Speaker 1: you're wrong, laughing.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were never wrong, Kelly.

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Speaker 1: Never ever ever. But anyway, I really still am sitting

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Speaker 1: with what we were discussing, and I'll have clue you

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Speaker 1: But I'm still sorting through it. And so I brought

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Speaker 1: it to you because you actually had some really good

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Speaker 1: going to talk about that because you and I had

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Speaker 1: this is actually what Chip and I were doing. So

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Speaker 1: to clue the listeners in, basically, when Marv was talking

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Speaker 1: if you know anything about Gemini, it's a very much

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Speaker 1: It's the mental stimulation. It's intellectualizing things like if you

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Speaker 1: a very like intellectualized energy. That was the word I

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Speaker 1: was looking for. Sorry to see I'm obviously still kind

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Speaker 1: of confused. Trying to even say this is tricky for me,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, so it's that energy is where we are.

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Speaker 1: And so Marv was talking about the importance for all

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Speaker 1: not just staying in our heads with anything happening, because

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Speaker 1: we're going to be called to do that, but really

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Speaker 1: you said this, I said to him. Yeah, he said

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Speaker 1: because it was it was feelings and emotions is what

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Speaker 1: we were getting confus. So I looked at feelings from

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Speaker 1: my therapy standpoint, which is that you would say, like

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Speaker 1: And Marvel's like, that's wrong. That is emotion. Emotion passes.

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Speaker 1: I still was having a really hard time cont Funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, some of my research says something a little differently,

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Speaker 3: that feelings come and go and they're not always rational.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is what I was saying. So yeah, So

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the confusion around this comes from,

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Speaker 3: So like an emotion is, based on my research, an

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Speaker 1: But usually my feelings are attached to something from my past,

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Speaker 3: But feeling is a physical manifestation. So it's not like

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Speaker 3: I mean, yes, there are things that happen that will

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Speaker 1: There's like it's it's it's because of they're triggering something

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Speaker 3: So fear is that emotion because you were startled, But

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Speaker 3: the feeling would be, oh that scared me. Now I'm anxious,

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Speaker 3: And anxiety is the feeling that is associated with fear.

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Speaker 2: Which is weird.

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Speaker 1: Thing is it's because it made you think you were

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Speaker 1: And our brain is always wired to keep us safe, right,

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Speaker 1: I think the reason mark So yeah, I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a right and wrong in this.

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Speaker 3: No. I think you put your trust in that, and

436
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Speaker 3: I think that's important, you know, Like, look, there is

437
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Speaker 3: the feeling of exc and fear is very similar to

438
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: the like the actual sensations that our body feels. So

439
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I think the lesson in all of this

440
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 3: is that, like, don't make decisions from an emotional standpoint,

441
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 3: make them from a logical rational standpoint after you've sat

442
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 3: with your feelings, because once you understand the feeling, then

443
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: you can be like, oh wait, that wasn't fear. That

444
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,879
Speaker 3: was actually I was excited about it, but my logical

445
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 3: brain was telling me all the reasons why it might

446
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: be fear, and those were louder than the excitement narrative.

447
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: But now that I've like sat back and understood those

448
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: feelings a little bit better, that was excitement and that

449
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 3: was what my gut was telling me when my head

450
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: was telling me something different. And now I have the

451
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: clarity to make the decision. So I think, you know,

452
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: the lesson is, don't make decisions quickly. You know, obviously

453
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 3: there are there are times in our lives when it's like,

454
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 3: have to do we keep them on life support or not?

455
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: Like that is something you might have to make a

456
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 3: very quick decision for or am I going to turn

457
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: left or right? Like there's a train coming? But like,

458
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: I think, if it's something that feels like a big

459
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 3: important thing that you can sit in your feelings for

460
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 3: a while, then take the time and make the decision.

461
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 3: And I'm happy I did that because I could have

462
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: very easily in this particular case, just gone with the

463
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 3: first thought, which isn't where I landed, right, And look,

464
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 3: I could, look, I could this could it could end

465
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 3: up being the wrong decision, and I'm fine with that

466
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 3: because I feel like I weighed everything the way that

467
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Speaker 3: I needed to to come to the decision that was

468
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 3: right for me at the time. So right, if I

469
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Speaker 3: could be any more vague about what I'm.

470
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Speaker 2: Talking about, but.

471
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Speaker 3: So, but yeah, I mean it's like I often like

472
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: I look back at my life, and I mean, I've

473
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: certainly made plenty of poor decisions and plenty of great decisions.

474
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Speaker 1: See, I don't even believe in that anymore. That's the thing.

475
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: It's like they all get us to our next right, Stay, Yeah, I.

476
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: Feel good about where I am.

477
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 3: So in the moment, it was a poor decision, you know,

478
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 3: like I've done things that I regret you or I

479
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: shouldn't have done.

480
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: But then you had to have that emotion of regret

481
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: or that See that's the Is it a feeling or

482
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: is an emotion? I don't know, but that helped you

483
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: moving forward, to grow and to you know, maybe step

484
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: into a more adult place or looking back on it,

485
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: I can look back at so many in my life

486
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: where I'm like, I would never make that decision now,

487
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know that I could say that with

488
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 1: such clarity had I not made it in the past,

489
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't have had that experience. And I think

490
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: when you get to our ages, it's a little easier

491
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: because you have this life experience to go. I don't

492
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: want to ever feel like I felt in that situation again,

493
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: and so I'm going to make decisions accordingly. And that's

494
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: where I'm saying I really value I've worked really hard

495
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: to get to the place that I'm at right now

496
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: within myself. Like when I say worked really hard about

497
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: you know, the doing the spiritual journey and whatever you

498
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: want to call it, healing journey, to really do the

499
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: self reflection and the work on yourself now so much

500
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: so that I do trust my own knowing, And that's

501
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: what I would call like a feeling is like my

502
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: own knowing. If I can't identify why I'm feeling certain things,

503
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: I do like to investigate further, but I don't always

504
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: even have to have the answer anymore. I'm like, well,

505
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: if that, like, there's a lot of times this will

506
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: happen to me where I meet someone and I just

507
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: don't like them. And I used to try to talk

508
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: like it's like a weird feeling I get in my body,

509
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: and it can be everyone else around me loves this

510
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: person or something, and I'll be like, I don't know,

511
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: I just don't like them. I used to turn on

512
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: myself and force myself to like them or look at

513
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: everyone else like loving the person and go, okay, well,

514
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: you know it must be a me problem. Now I'm like, no,

515
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: I just sense things so like well.

516
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Speaker 3: And it's also it's, you know, the older you get it,

517
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 3: it's easier to accept that you're not for everyone and

518
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 3: everyone's not for you.

519
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: And that's a okay.

520
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: But every time I have had that feeling, it's because

521
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: the person ends up being someone that they're not presenting

522
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: themselves to be at the time where I'm shaming myself

523
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: into not liking them. But my body knows something that

524
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: my mind and maybe my emotions can't accept because I

525
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: don't have the facts, you know what I mean, right,

526
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: So that's where I go, Okay, So is your feeling

527
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: is that like you're knowing? Is that your intuition?

528
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: Is that?

529
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: Is that what Marv's trying to say? I don't know

530
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: we need on this one.

531
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 3: It's and you know, the crazy thing is is how

532
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: much our bodies do.

533
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: Know.

534
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: Like when you walk into a dangerous or sketchy situation

535
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 3: and you're just like, this feels really I mean, this

536
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 3: feels sketchy, but like I'm supposed to be here, and

537
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: then it takes a moment for you to like gather

538
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: all their actual information and you're like, oh, no, this

539
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: is fine, or this is really fucking sketchy, Like I'm

540
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 3: going to get out of this situation, right, you know,

541
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: Like a friend invites you to a party or something

542
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: with a bunch of people you don't know, and you're.

543
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 2: Like, oh this something feels offier, I'm gonna go.

544
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 3: Or you could have just had the wrong read and

545
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: everyone was lovely and it turns out to be a

546
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 3: great night and.

547
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: Your feeling is insecurity from the past.

548
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

549
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the body is really really powerful and I

550
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: think you know the point is to listen to it,

551
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: but you can't listen to it immediately.

552
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: Like you have to you have to give it some

553
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: logical thought in some time.

554
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: But see that's where I'm saying, I'm I don't know,

555
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: like if my body pings on something. I pretty much

556
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: just trust it now, Like there's I don't I don't

557
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: really I just go, I don't know why I feel

558
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: this way, but this is how I feel. And I

559
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: don't know.

560
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: If you know, but you're open to if you're open

561
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: to change.

562
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: You know, like the changing in that.

563
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, say it is someone that like you're

564
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: just like I don't need to be friends with this

565
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: person I don't want, but like you're then later like

566
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: invited to a dinner party and they do something where

567
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: you're like you feel a little differently about them, you know.

568
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying to you. The times

569
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: where I've done that, it ends up backfiring on me,

570
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: and I get in situations or relationships that end up

571
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: really causing me a lot of harm, or there's betrayal

572
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: or there's whatever, and it's because my knowing was right,

573
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: and then I talked myself out of it with logic

574
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: and emotion. So anyway, I just find it really interesting

575
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: if you guys have a clear way of saying this,

576
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: or you understand what Marv was saying versus what I

577
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: was saying, or if you're with me and you're like Marv,

578
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Email us at that.

579
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm like all the time.

580
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: You can always email us at the edge at velvet

581
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: edge dot com, or you can hit me up in

582
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: my DMS. I'm at Velvet.

583
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 2: Edge, chip, I'm at Chip door should hip D.

584
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 3: O R S H.

585
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: Now, as you guys go into the weekend and you're

586
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: feeling on the edge, always remember too.

587
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: Act emotional right.

588
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 1: Acting casual is an emotion. That's that's an emotion.

589
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: I think I think that's more of an action.

590
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: Who knows anymore? Okay, bye bye

591
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Speaker 3: M h m hm