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Speaker 2: the thing. Joe Rico, how are you, my friend? I
Speaker 2: know you were traveling around different portions of Canada and
Speaker 2: now you were back on It was weird hearing you
Speaker 2: say you're like man as on the West Coast, and
Speaker 2: you know, to me, that's like that's where I am,
Speaker 2: California versus New York. But you were talking about it.
Speaker 2: What Toronto versus Vancouver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was out in Vancouver. You're visiting a friend
Speaker 3: and I was. It was only only three hours, so
Speaker 3: it's not super extreme like I've been to Europe before
Speaker 3: and then those are like six hours. It's really brutal.
Speaker 3: But I just kept pushing back my flight and I
Speaker 3: came back and landed at like four in the morning,
Speaker 3: and I was just I missed the whole night of sleep.
Speaker 3: So I'm still trying to catch up from that, but
Speaker 3: happy to get back into the swing of things. I
Speaker 3: know it was kind of a bad time for me
Speaker 3: to take off in terms of like where we are
Speaker 3: in the baseball season, so I'm kind of playing catch
Speaker 3: up a little bit, but lots to talk about. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: we have a lot to talk about today with the injuries.
Speaker 2: We do have a lot to talk about. Hopefully we'll
Speaker 2: be talking with you guys. I see our boy Fred
Speaker 2: Dinger's in here saying, what's that fellas, what is Upfred?
Speaker 2: We have kind of a chat area where we're going
Speaker 2: to be taking questions and if we do like last week,
Speaker 2: if you guys listened, we had a couple of people
Speaker 2: want to come up on the board. They wanted to
Speaker 2: chat with us. People can do that. You can do that.
Speaker 2: That's kind of the cool thing about all of this.
Speaker 2: But yes, injuries, it's the plague. It always happens every
Speaker 2: single year. It What is ironic about it is it
Speaker 2: feels like it's in like a timespan. Like obviously you
Speaker 2: look over like the entire season, you get the scope
Speaker 2: of it, but there's always like a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: and it's usually at some point early maybe it's you
Speaker 2: week three, or sometimes it's the first week where you're
Speaker 2: just like, give me a break, give me a break
Speaker 2: with injuries. Mounds of injuries today alone, right before we started.
Speaker 2: Wyat Langford officially put on the iel. Justin Steele has
Speaker 2: some shoulder discomfort. He says it shouldn't be too long.
Speaker 2: He is on the eel. It's left and right. Could
Speaker 2: tell Marte looks like it might be till May. Tons
Speaker 2: and tons of injuries, but just real quick, let's talk
Speaker 2: about the injury that almost was a big scare and
Speaker 2: would have caused panic. Fernando Tatis Junior last night, or
Speaker 2: as we're recording this last night, pulls through a swing.
Speaker 2: He'd I think it said, I might be inversing this,
Speaker 2: like he heard it like on a slide, and then
Speaker 2: the swing or it was the sling swing, and then
Speaker 2: he came back in and left. But the visual is
Speaker 2: he had this really big swing. As he does it
Speaker 2: actually seemed very Corby and Carrol like, with a big
Speaker 2: follow through only his arm and bam, he's grabbing at
Speaker 2: it and then he leaves the game and there's a
Speaker 2: collective oh god. The positive news, unlike all the other
Speaker 2: injuries that are not positive at this point, is that
Speaker 2: he says he's okay. Manager says he's okay. He's not
Speaker 2: going to require an iel stint or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So great, awesome, We're all happy about that. But I
Speaker 2: brought this up on leading off today and I want
Speaker 2: to get your take on it. Are you worried though?
Speaker 2: Did this open up a can of absolute chaos and
Speaker 2: worry for you? Because it's not even April tenth. He's
Speaker 2: already swung through so aggressively that there's a little sting
Speaker 2: in there. This was on this surgically repaired shoulder. This
Speaker 2: just kind of reminds and it feels very like corbing
Speaker 2: Carol esque that this could be looming all year and
Speaker 2: not many guys have been hotter than Fernando Tatis Junior.
Speaker 2: So Arico, the question is is do you have any
Speaker 2: long standing worry because of this and would this make
Speaker 2: you react in any crazy way.
Speaker 3: It's hard to be comforted by it because it's the
Speaker 3: same shoulder that he has had problems with, the same
Speaker 3: shoulder that he had surgery on in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: So I wonder what this is going to mean the
Speaker 3: rest of the season, if it's going to be something
Speaker 3: that does kind of hamper the power, if it potentially
Speaker 3: means he's not going to be willing to steal as
Speaker 3: much because he's worried about the slides. If they're going
Speaker 3: to give him some days off here and there to
Speaker 3: kind of mitigate some of the some of the potential
Speaker 3: reinjury risk, it does worry me. At the same time,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're really going to be trying
Speaker 3: to trade him necessarily, like to this point of the season.
Speaker 3: Looking at the player raider on fangrafs, he's the number
Speaker 3: four player for the season. So I don't know if
Speaker 3: you're really trying to get off of him right now
Speaker 3: based off of it. But if you can trade him
Speaker 3: and get another fur round player back, if you are
Speaker 3: worried and you're trying to get like a Kyle Tucker
Speaker 3: or a player of that ilk back for him, I
Speaker 3: don't mind it. I don't really know how this is
Speaker 3: going to affect him in the long run, but considering
Speaker 3: it's the same shoulder that has bothered him in the past,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't blame somebody for trying to just get off
Speaker 3: of it before this potentially gets worse, as long as
Speaker 3: you're not taking a huge haircut, like I wouldn't sell
Speaker 3: him for seventy seventy cents on the dollar. But if
Speaker 3: you're getting a you know, an equal kind of first
Speaker 3: round player back, I would be okay with it.
Speaker 2: An interesting one maybe like a Gunner Henderson who had
Speaker 2: the injury has kind of started off slow, That might
Speaker 2: be one. Maybe you pare down a tiny bit and
Speaker 2: like a Lindor or something like that. My take with
Speaker 2: it is I don't look and I go, oh, there's
Speaker 2: going to be a suppression of power. I know. I
Speaker 2: think the power is great. He's stealing more bases, his
Speaker 2: legs feel healthy. The thing that would stand out to
Speaker 2: me is like Tatisa's one motor like one mode and
Speaker 2: it is go mode. So like, I don't worry that
Speaker 2: we're going to lose anything. I'm just worried we're going
Speaker 2: to lose him that it's like he's just going to
Speaker 2: keep going and then there is a reactvation. I will
Speaker 2: tell you even all of that though, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to make any move, but I do think that question
Speaker 2: is going to start to come up. I don't know
Speaker 2: if you could even get it Gunner or Lindor or
Speaker 2: something or an Alvarez. It might have to be like
Speaker 2: a two part trade. But I guess the question just
Speaker 2: alliance around, like, oh, did this just remind you that
Speaker 2: this is going to be floating all season and maybe
Speaker 2: you want to consolidate or do you just say it's
Speaker 2: an absolute nothing burger since he's not hurt and maybe
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's just a talking point at this point.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just absolutely nothing. I think it is kind
Speaker 2: of a nothing, but just keep it in the back
Speaker 2: of your mind, I'm not making a move. It sounds
Speaker 2: like you would you would consider, like would you trade
Speaker 2: your tatist to get Lindor.
Speaker 3: I think I probably would. Lindor doesn't come with a
Speaker 3: lot of the same risks. I think that's kind of
Speaker 3: where I'd need to get the value back, though I'm
Speaker 3: not getting like a third or a fourth round player
Speaker 3: back for him. It would need to be a top
Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty player based on ADP. We're still early
Speaker 3: enough into the season that I wouldn't necessarily just look
Speaker 3: at rankings and try and get so to shrimp for
Speaker 3: him or something. But if you're getting back another first
Speaker 3: round early second round type of player, if you can
Speaker 3: get a Churio, if you can get a yord On,
Speaker 3: if you can get a Julio, a Carol somebody like that,
Speaker 3: then I'm be okay with it. But I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to trade him and then lose out on several rounds
Speaker 3: of value just for him to be okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is that as a possibility, Yeah, And I think you
Speaker 2: definitely got to just see more of it. But I
Speaker 2: think he's one of those few players, like I think
Speaker 2: if Corbyn Carroll did that exact same thing. Everyone want
Speaker 2: to be like, here we go, you know, because you
Speaker 2: saw how the struggles were. Here we go. He did
Speaker 2: the shoulder. This was Tatisa's surgically repaired. So you know,
Speaker 2: I'm saying all this to be like, I don't really
Speaker 2: worried about it, but I understand where people are and
Speaker 2: the question is going to start arising. But you know,
Speaker 2: he was amazingly one of the few, at least at
Speaker 2: this moment that looks like he's not when, by the way,
Speaker 2: we'd even mention his own team Jackson Merrill just hit
Speaker 2: the il cronin Worth got hurt. It was a bloody,
Speaker 2: bloody Tuesday, man like it was. The last two days
Speaker 2: have been absolutely brutal in the in the injury market,
Speaker 2: and hopefully you got enough depth and people are gonna
Speaker 2: have to make some pretty tough decisions. Our boy mctunda
Speaker 2: is in the house, always a peanut and cracker jack
Speaker 2: on leading off and now here hanging with us. Mctunda,
Speaker 2: what's up.
Speaker 4: How's it going, guys?
Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good? What you got?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: I can you rank the three young pitchers there in
Speaker 4: Cleveland there? I have them on my Dynasty League somebody
Speaker 4: just offered me, uh, Tanner Biby for Gavin Williams. But
Speaker 4: Logan Outlands also floating up there as well too. So
Speaker 4: who do you like for like a dynasty purpose?
Speaker 2: What was it you were you were going to get
Speaker 2: Bibby to trade away Gavin Williams or was it in verse?
Speaker 4: In verse?
Speaker 2: So you would yeah, so you would be trading Biby
Speaker 2: to get Gavin Williams. Correct, Okay, uh, Logan Allen, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Logan Allen is not in the discussion. Frankly, Gavin Williams
Speaker 2: isn't really in the discussion. Joey Joe PSP and I
Speaker 2: were looking at Gavin Williams. It's kind of been off
Speaker 2: to a little bit of a slow start. We're not
Speaker 2: seeing a ton of the like big crazy whift stuff.
Speaker 2: He has this really weird pitch mix thing. I think
Speaker 2: it was. I'd have to look at a savant page
Speaker 2: right now, but I think he's the guy. I was
Speaker 2: looking at that through like six different pitches and it's
Speaker 2: down to three right now, and he's just really honed
Speaker 2: in his pitch mix with some varying results. I'm not
Speaker 2: really sure we need to go into any even analysis though,
Speaker 2: it's pretty clearly Tanner Bibby right now. Gavin Williams, not
Speaker 2: even in the big push, would jump over him at
Speaker 2: this point. Arico, You feel any different.
Speaker 3: No, I mean Bibby hasn't been off to a good start,
Speaker 3: but that would be a buying opportunity for me. For really,
Speaker 3: any solid player top one hundred, top one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty player who's been off to a slow start, I
Speaker 3: would be trying to buy on them for the most part.
Speaker 3: And you look at Bibby six fifty two ERA one
Speaker 3: point thirty four whip. The strikeouts haven't been there. It's
Speaker 3: still a very small sample size though. I've been a
Speaker 3: big Bibby guy for a long time, and I've been
Speaker 3: kind of out on Williams, mostly because of the injury concerns,
Speaker 3: but he also hasn't really been off to a great start.
Speaker 3: But I think i'd have byby forty spots easily ahead
Speaker 3: in pitching rankings.
Speaker 2: Personally, Yeah, I feel like that guy who's trying to
Speaker 2: do that to you. Mcdonda is like, oh, but like,
Speaker 2: you know, the Nick Pollock talked about Gavin Williams, or
Speaker 2: you know, Ino Sarah's talked about Gavin it's like no,
Speaker 2: all of them would say, byby, and I was right, Gavin,
Speaker 2: is he's really The pitch mix is super interesting. Last
Speaker 2: year he threw forcing fastball fifty one percent of the time, curveball, cutter, slider,
Speaker 2: change up, and sinker barely a sinker. He threw the
Speaker 2: two sinkers. So let's call it five pitches, four of
Speaker 2: which were double digit percentile. This year he's throwing three
Speaker 2: pitches forcing fastball, sweeper, and curveball. So it looks like
Speaker 2: he's taken and scrapped the cutter and the slider and
Speaker 2: he's just turned you know, and those had different degrees
Speaker 2: of v loos. The sweeper looks a lot closer to
Speaker 2: the slider, but he so he cut the cutter. Sweeper
Speaker 2: is now the second most used pitch. And then his curveball,
Speaker 2: which was fourteen percent last year. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I'm right about that. Curveball was second most used last year.
Speaker 2: It's now the third most use. He's using it five
Speaker 2: percent less of the time. So blah blah blah, Welsh,
Speaker 2: what does it all mean. It's that the fastball is
Speaker 2: upticked right now, it's getting hit. He's getting big whiffs
Speaker 2: on the sweeper, nothing's happening with the curveball, and it's
Speaker 2: just a three pitch mix. I think he's trying to
Speaker 2: learn what you know, his variety is going to be.
Speaker 2: So all of that to say, there's a little Gavin
Speaker 2: Williams breakdown. It ain't over Tanner Biby, ain't over no
Speaker 2: Tanner Biby, ma'am. Let's get to some of the questions
Speaker 2: that are in the chat here. So cal Kid, I
Speaker 2: just want oh, this is funny. He's like, I just
Speaker 2: want someone to see this.
Speaker 3: This is this.
Speaker 2: Is his roster, he says, I have Langford, McClain, Profar,
Speaker 2: Cow's Aer, Josh Lowe, Blake Snell, Zach Efflyn, Royce Lewis
Speaker 2: all on my roster. Well all on your eye, l
Speaker 2: and Profar shouldn't be on your roster anymore. You can
Speaker 2: cut him. That's gross, dude. And that's four of his outfielders,
Speaker 2: or that you've got two of your infielders. Kind of
Speaker 2: couldn't quite see that coming. I mean, Royce Luci know
Speaker 2: there's injury stuff. You know, there's stuff with Snell, none
Speaker 2: of the other McLain a little bit, but bo Arico, I.
Speaker 3: Mean I got like some shares of pretty much all
Speaker 3: of these guys spread out here and there, but for
Speaker 3: one roster to take that hit, like you mentioned, it's
Speaker 3: like half the infield, half the outfield his sp one
Speaker 3: probably sp three with Flyn, Like that's sil It's tough
Speaker 3: to come back from that. You got to be super
Speaker 3: active on the waiver wire. And I hope for your
Speaker 3: sake you have unlimited IEL because that'd be a tough
Speaker 3: decisions to make if you only have like three spots
Speaker 3: or something. I don't even know what you would.
Speaker 2: Do there, dude, totally no, I was just thinking the
Speaker 2: exact same thing. There are plenty of spots where like
Speaker 2: you don't have unlimited IYEL and it is three and
Speaker 2: like who are the muss? Like you gotta keep Snell,
Speaker 2: you gotta keep Langford, and then like who's and then
Speaker 2: is it McLain. So then you're cutting guys like Cowser,
Speaker 2: low E, Flyn, like Royce Lewis. Yeah, probably that probably
Speaker 2: is what.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel good about it. I wouldn't feel good
Speaker 3: about it. But Cowser's out like two months. Royce Lewis
Speaker 3: is probably gonna be back soon, but who knows, how
Speaker 3: long that will last. I love Eflyn. I wouldn't want
Speaker 3: to cut Eflin, but it's just like Langford, you have
Speaker 3: to keep Snell. You have to keep And then i'd
Speaker 3: argue McClain is also kind of in that kind of
Speaker 3: half to territory. The other guys are either going to
Speaker 3: be out too long, Like with Josh Lowe, it's going
Speaker 3: to be half the season probably. I've cut him in
Speaker 3: a lot of places already. It's just it's just a
Speaker 3: bad situation. So really, so Cal Kid heart goes out
Speaker 3: to you, my friend.
Speaker 2: T's and ps to so Cal Kid one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Dexter said, rank these pitchers rest of season. We have
Speaker 2: Casey Miz, Dustin May, Rhys Olsen, and the aforementioned Gavin Williams.
Speaker 2: So let's rank these in order.
Speaker 3: Mister Joe Rico, I would go with Dustin May at
Speaker 3: the top. I'm still believing in the stuff. I still believe,
Speaker 3: you know, pitching for the Dodgers, you're gonna get double
Speaker 3: digit wins pretty and then after him, i'd go with
Speaker 3: the two Tigers. I think it kind of depends on
Speaker 3: your own feel, but I think i'd probably put myes
Speaker 3: ahead of Olsen. Just ever so slightly based on what
Speaker 3: we've seen, and then i'd have Gavin Williams bringing up
Speaker 3: the rear there.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's and I didn't realize that I.
Speaker 3: Am kind of out on him. I think it's just
Speaker 3: the injury concerns. I feel like at some point this year,
Speaker 3: the stuff that he dealt with last season is going
Speaker 3: to keep him out for a long time. If you've
Speaker 3: got enough to a great start along the lines of
Speaker 3: what Mice has done, then I'd probably feel a little
Speaker 3: bit differently. But I haven't been overly encouraged based on
Speaker 3: really anything. I know the spring looked good, but it's
Speaker 3: such a small sample. I don't really want to read
Speaker 3: too much into that. If you wanted to keep him
Speaker 3: third on that list, i'd be okay with it, but
Speaker 3: May for sure ahead, and I think My's for sure
Speaker 3: ahead as well.
Speaker 2: I would go May at the top as well. I
Speaker 2: would go who did you have? Did you have Mies
Speaker 2: or Olsen?
Speaker 4: It too?
Speaker 3: I had Mies at too, but I don't have a
Speaker 3: huge problem if somebody wants to go with Olsen, no,
Speaker 3: I would.
Speaker 2: Go May and Mie, and I actually feel like that's
Speaker 2: kind of like a tier group, but I would have
Speaker 2: Williams at three and then Ulson at four, and I
Speaker 2: think those two are really close. But May and Mis,
Speaker 2: I'm very much in on my's. Like I said, Dustin,
Speaker 2: May and Mis are both out of the streamer territory
Speaker 2: for me, especially with like how Miz's splitter is working
Speaker 2: and he's throwing strikes and he's setting up this splitter
Speaker 2: better than ever. I'm very, very encouraged by that, and
Speaker 2: I think, you know, that's going to continue for the
Speaker 2: most part in like a really positive way. And I
Speaker 2: think some of the like missed opportunity for Mys of
Speaker 2: like you know, six man rotation or pushes and stuff like.
Speaker 2: That's why those two get really close. And then I
Speaker 2: would go Williams and Olsen. So that's how that's why
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Speaker 2: All right, a couple more questions here, would you trade
Speaker 2: Ozzie Albi's for Royce Lewis? I'm getting Albi's Now, here's
Speaker 2: the caveat in a twelve team dynasty Because Redraft we
Speaker 2: both were like, no, this is a head to head
Speaker 2: category league. It might it probably still is, no, by
Speaker 2: the way, but would you trade your Royce Lewis to
Speaker 2: get Albi's in a dynasty.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't think twice about it. Personally, Yeah, I'm taking Alby's.
Speaker 3: I'm not dealing with as much. I mean, Albi's has
Speaker 3: missed some time over the years, but I don't think
Speaker 3: he's nearly as injury plagued as Royce Lewis seems to be.
Speaker 3: He got a better lineup. I mean, what we've seen
Speaker 3: from both of them over the course of a full
Speaker 3: season could be like in the thirty home run ten
Speaker 3: stolen based type of range. But I feel like Albie's
Speaker 3: gives me a higher floor, and we've seen that ceiling
Speaker 3: of you know, second round fantasy production from him. We've
Speaker 3: seen him put together healthy seasons. He's played one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty eight hundred and sixty one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: six hundred and forty eight. For me, it's easily Albi's,
Speaker 3: what about you?
Speaker 2: Easy? I don't even need to go too crazy into it.
Speaker 2: Like Royce Lewis has got like some sky high potential
Speaker 2: average rely sunk last year. He is perpetually injured. He's
Speaker 2: shown no ability to keep injured. I think I have
Speaker 2: to look at my dynasty list here, but like, let
Speaker 2: me see if I can pull it up real quick.
Speaker 2: What's the age gap on this? Like just a couple
Speaker 2: I mean you have to consider the age gap. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to pull this up here on my Dynasty list, hey,
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Speaker 2: free if you would like to check it out. But
Speaker 2: let's tick a look here because I have ages on
Speaker 2: my Dynasty list just so it's easy.
Speaker 3: To he I'll be and Ryce Lewis is about to
Speaker 3: be twenty six, So it's like a two and a
Speaker 3: half year age gap.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not that big. It's not that big where
Speaker 2: like they you know, hey, it's five years of different production.
Speaker 2: You're kind of arguing, like prime for Albi's, I've also
Speaker 2: got them. Let me look at my ranks here, I've
Speaker 2: got them decently separated. I got Albi's like still in
Speaker 2: the top fifty range, updates coming soon. Royce is like
Speaker 2: just around the hundreds a little bit more inside, so
Speaker 2: I very much favor him our why guy in a
Speaker 2: ten team points league? I traded Xavier Edwards and Matt
Speaker 2: Shaw for Mark Ventos. What are your thoughts? Joey is
Speaker 2: a big buy on Mark Vento's right now, I am not.
Speaker 2: And this is a points league and Xavier Edwards does
Speaker 2: not strike out, leads off and hits a bunch. I
Speaker 2: would not have done that.
Speaker 3: What about you? I agree? I agree? Well, I mean
Speaker 3: Vento's with the strikeouts. It depends on the scoring a
Speaker 3: little bit. Every points league has their own way to score,
Speaker 3: but I think.
Speaker 2: You have a strikeout negative vent To's is more valuable.
Speaker 2: But strikeout, Yeah, like this is a no brainer. I'd
Speaker 2: rather have Edwards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I agree there on that front. Shaw.
Speaker 3: I don't really know how to feel about Shaw at
Speaker 3: this point. I don't think we can really know exactly
Speaker 3: what he's going to be yet after just ten games.
Speaker 3: But I think we know Edwards is going to be
Speaker 3: a big contact guy who's going to be probably hitting
Speaker 3: close to three hundred. That's kind of what he's always done,
Speaker 3: and I think in the points league that is more
Speaker 3: valuable now. The home runs a lot of the time
Speaker 3: at points leagues, it's like eight or ten points for
Speaker 3: a home run, and Biento's could make it close if
Speaker 3: he does get the thirty thirty five homers, but the
Speaker 3: strikeout negatives is really going to mitigate some of that
Speaker 3: boost you get from the homers. So I personally am
Speaker 3: on Welsh's side here. I probably wouldn't have taken that deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm open to Van Too's like kind of break
Speaker 2: him back and stuff. I'm just not confident he's going
Speaker 2: to hit for high average. He does have big power,
Speaker 2: but I don't know man Edwards get more at bats,
Speaker 2: makes a lot of contact still on bases aren't much,
Speaker 2: and obviously the team context for runs. But I'm on Edward.
Speaker 2: I think Edwards straight up for Van Too's in a
Speaker 2: points league makes sense. If you're also getting Matt Shaw, well,
Speaker 2: I guess he got them. I would have rathered both
Speaker 2: of those guys. I think you didn't need to add
Speaker 2: Matt Shaw for Viento's if you did it, but I
Speaker 2: would lean on Vento's side. Elsback said, Boba sheet for
Speaker 2: someone like Perdomo or Matt Shaw. Absolutely not, not in
Speaker 2: any context, not in Dynasty, not in real life, not
Speaker 2: in fantasy. Boba shed over all of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, easily was hitting over three hundred. He's in the
Speaker 3: top of the order, he's scoring runs, He's in a
Speaker 3: contract year. I'm also a big bow guy, even though
Speaker 3: I'm I try to leave the Toronto bias out of it.
Speaker 3: I was a huge bow fan coming into the year.
Speaker 3: The price was good. Yeah, this is an easy, easy
Speaker 3: bow side.
Speaker 2: For me, Easy bows for me. Trade my Brandon Lao.
Speaker 2: This is from Bunk trading Brandon Lau for Marcus Simeon
Speaker 2: in a categories league. This is a great question because
Speaker 2: obviously Simeon is in his eye struggle early on phase.
Speaker 2: Brandon Law looks great and dominant, and we've had people
Speaker 2: push like why is Brandon Low not higher and ranked higher?
Speaker 2: So this is a high performing player with an injury
Speaker 2: history versus an underperforming which we kind of know always
Speaker 2: type of guy. But you know, like Simeon kind of
Speaker 2: gets it back outside of last year's batting average. So
Speaker 2: what side would you take here, Brandon Lau or Marcus Simeon.
Speaker 3: It feels fairly, but I think I'd still probably go
Speaker 3: with Semion. The lineup in Tampa hasn't been quite as
Speaker 3: good as I was expecting. It to be. That was
Speaker 3: one of the things I was really kind of banking on,
Speaker 3: was that the offense would just be fantastic in that park.
Speaker 3: They've been okay, and Lao has been one of the
Speaker 3: ones who's been very good. But I think I'm still
Speaker 3: kind of deferring to where we were in the preseason
Speaker 3: in terms of our thought process on a player. For
Speaker 3: the most part, you know, you're slightly changing valuations on
Speaker 3: guys like soder shrim and other guys who are kind
Speaker 3: of breaking out, but I'm still leading with the top
Speaker 3: one hundred guy over a guy like Brandon Lao, who
Speaker 3: was going close to one hundred picks later, we're still
Speaker 3: talking about you know, fifty at bat sample sizes some
Speaker 3: guys is not even quite that large. I feel like
Speaker 3: Semion will turn it around, and I know with Brandon
Speaker 3: Lao he's gonna end up missing twenty thirty games at
Speaker 3: some point of the season. So I think it's relatively close.
Speaker 3: But personally I'm taking the semi inside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. I think he said it well, like
Speaker 2: kind of going back to early preseason stuff. Here's another
Speaker 2: way that I look at it. If you get him,
Speaker 2: cool thing is you have had those two horrific weeks.
Speaker 2: Not a part of your lineup and not a part
Speaker 2: of your roster. You know, he the guy that traded
Speaker 2: him away. They had to eat that. There's some stuff
Speaker 2: on Simeon, Like you know, his strikeouts are up a
Speaker 2: little bit. His expected batting average just sucks, even though
Speaker 2: it's sixty points higher than what he's hitting. It sucks.
Speaker 2: But you'll see not one for one, but like expected
Speaker 2: batting average can sometimes tail hard hit percentage, his hard
Speaker 2: hit percentage is down. But what are the other things.
Speaker 2: He's barreling the same amount. He's hitting the ball as
Speaker 2: hard as usual. He's getting the ball in the air,
Speaker 2: you know, more than ever. Really, a lot of that
Speaker 2: stuff looks good. It still looks kind of like him.
Speaker 2: He's just not hitting any off speed stuff right now.
Speaker 2: And I think the team as a whole is just
Speaker 2: they're really it's a Burger and Adulus and Simeon. So
Speaker 2: I say all of that to say, I'm totally down
Speaker 2: and I am into getting a value on Marcus Simeon.
Speaker 2: So I would do that trade. Uh see what else
Speaker 2: do we have here? Big C? Would you drop Jason
Speaker 2: Adam for Max Meyer? Jose Soriano or Hayden Wiznski, Las
Speaker 2: Steele and Jackson Merril this week was able to add
Speaker 2: Jose Alvarado. Good on you, Luke Jackson and McGill. This
Speaker 2: is an ESPN points league. Not sure if dropping Wells
Speaker 2: or Shay Langliers is worth it with catcher with catchers
Speaker 2: have done in a twelve team Max, so I'm not
Speaker 2: really sure. The last part of the catchers, I think Alvarado,
Speaker 2: it was one thing we were going to talk about.
Speaker 2: Alvarado is kind of in that must pick up territory.
Speaker 2: I also like getting Luke Jackson, even though I'm not
Speaker 2: a big closer points guy. But back to the question,
Speaker 2: would you drop Jason Adam who is more of a
Speaker 2: save and holds guy who does place them in points
Speaker 2: for Max, Soriano or wiz Nesky.
Speaker 3: I think I would kind of lean towards Max Meyer.
Speaker 3: I like them all. With McGill, I'm wondering if that's
Speaker 3: Tyler or Trevor. It's probably Tyler. I don't I agree
Speaker 3: with you that you don't need to like air yourself
Speaker 3: with closers or relief pitchers in a points lead because
Speaker 3: they just don't really rack up as many as many
Speaker 3: points as starting pitchers Jason Adam. Maybe he gets that
Speaker 3: job at some point. But Suarez has been really good
Speaker 3: and I don't really see that happening for the time being.
Speaker 3: So I don't see that you're getting many safe points
Speaker 3: out of him. I probably drop him for Max Meyer.
Speaker 3: I like what Max Meyer's done. He was a breakout
Speaker 3: candidate in spring. He's actually pitching today. I wonder what's
Speaker 3: going on, and he's doing great.
Speaker 2: Actually, of course I was on the Mets side. He's
Speaker 2: held the Mets to no runs, like four hits. I
Speaker 2: think they may have just scored. Yeah, they just scored,
Speaker 2: so they've got the lead, of course, because I had
Speaker 2: the first five on the Mets. I'm an idiot not
Speaker 2: getting a ton of whiffs. But they're just not doing
Speaker 2: anything with it either, he is. I'm just looking at
Speaker 2: it all right now. Slider looks good. It's getting whiffs
Speaker 2: and called strikes. The ass ball. He's putting it in
Speaker 2: the zone and it's it's getting hit hard a little bit,
Speaker 2: but no impact. His velo's down, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Pitch mix looks good. He's throwing five different pitches right now.
Speaker 2: He's keeping them off of everything. Low Vilos on the
Speaker 2: sinker that looks really good. Max Meyer is sneaky right now.
Speaker 2: He's getting a little bit of run support, which you
Speaker 2: know the stupid Mets are not doing. I actually kind
Speaker 2: of was leading with Neski, but I think Meyer and
Speaker 2: Wiznski are like one in two on that. I probably
Speaker 2: wouldn't pick up a Sorano. I'd actually, if you have
Speaker 2: three closers, I'd just go drop like McGill and Adam
Speaker 2: and pick up was Neski and Max Meyer. Yeah you
Speaker 2: agree with that?
Speaker 3: With that, I'd live with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, you're down, good, Marico's down.
Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 2: was like, what did I just mess up there? That's
Speaker 2: what it was, all right? Oh migtanda, just real quick,
Speaker 2: he said he needs your opinion on Vlatti's new contract
Speaker 2: as a Blue Jay Homer, how excited are you for this? Like,
Speaker 2: especially from is this going to bring other free agents
Speaker 2: to actually come and play for the Blue Jays.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much it's gonna do on that front.
Speaker 3: But I landed off the plane. I didn't have any
Speaker 3: Wi Fi, and as soon as we touched down, every
Speaker 3: notification start flooding in and I see the pass in
Speaker 3: one of the top and before I clicked on it.
Speaker 3: I was like, please, because we see the whole weekend,
Speaker 3: We're seeing all these rumors and it's imminent he might sign,
Speaker 3: it might not. And then it was just me and
Speaker 3: my buddies are all Toronto guy. So as soon as
Speaker 3: the plane lands, it's like middle of the night, and
Speaker 3: I get this huge adrenaline rush and I just jump out,
Speaker 3: yeah on the plane. I'm sure people were really appreciative
Speaker 3: of that in the middle of the night, but I
Speaker 3: am excited.
Speaker 2: Screaming my plane is not like the best idea or
Speaker 2: in an airport.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not the best. It just landed, so I think
Speaker 3: everybody knew we were okay, but yeah, I'm sure it
Speaker 3: wasn't the smartest idea. We'll see if I'm on any
Speaker 3: watch lists next time I try to fly. But I
Speaker 3: was very happy, like this is a move that needed
Speaker 3: to get done. Was it an overpay? I don't know.
Speaker 3: He's making twenty eight million right now. He boosted up
Speaker 3: for the thirty five million. The length is a little
Speaker 3: bit long, but I would rather just have him be
Speaker 3: a solo blue Jay for his whole career. You're going
Speaker 3: to look at that Baseball reference page Toronto, Toronto Toronto, Toronto, Toronto,
Speaker 3: and there's going to not be any crap at the
Speaker 3: bottom of it unless he gets traded later on. But
Speaker 3: that's besides the point. We have a star to build around,
Speaker 3: a superstar. Vladdie is on a Hall of Fame trajectory.
Speaker 3: We've seen it a couple times now. Two of his
Speaker 3: full seasons at this point have been MVP caliber campaigns.
Speaker 3: And if you let him go, the team has to
Speaker 3: fully reset with a bad farm system with a bad
Speaker 3: team around him, and they have a lot of money
Speaker 3: coming off the books over the next couple of years
Speaker 3: with Springer, with Bassett, with Gosman, with bo Rios is
Speaker 3: still a couple of years, but they can start putting
Speaker 3: the pieces together to build around Vladdie. Whereas if he
Speaker 3: had gone, this team is starting from zero and you're
Speaker 3: essentially looking at a bottom five or seven team in
Speaker 3: line with kind of like where the White Sox and
Speaker 3: Rockies and Marlins would have been. So I think this
Speaker 3: changes the trajectory of the team and gives them another
Speaker 3: ten years of potential contention as long as they put
Speaker 3: pieces around. And I've been a huge critic of the
Speaker 3: front office, but I think this is a good move,
Speaker 3: even if the term is maybe a little bit long,
Speaker 3: but I'm not going to get bogged down. I don't
Speaker 3: really care if we're paying him for those last couple
Speaker 3: of years in this thirties, so the next decade he
Speaker 3: should be fantastic. I couldn't be happier as a Blue
Speaker 3: Jay fan.
Speaker 2: You need to get that off your chest, right good.
Speaker 3: I haven't done a podcast in a week.
Speaker 2: Man, in a week, I could tell I'm happy for you,
Speaker 2: and we'll see if it brings in some more guys,
Speaker 2: even though it looks like Boba Shitt's probably on his
Speaker 2: way out. All right, last couple we'll just bang through
Speaker 2: these bad boys and then now you guys come and
Speaker 2: join us on the YouTube. Q and a Wilson Contreras,
Speaker 2: Yannier or Wells. Moving forward, you got to pick one
Speaker 2: of those catchers. People are not loving. Wilson Contreras. Yannier
Speaker 2: has been a nothing burger, and Wells was off early
Speaker 2: like a hot start, but you know, things haven't been
Speaker 2: going absolutely ballistic. So if you had to pick one
Speaker 2: of those catchers rest of season, who you going with?
Speaker 3: I'm still going Wilson Contreras. I think a lot of
Speaker 3: it comes down to do the played appearances, like he
Speaker 3: is going to outpace the other guy is there strictly
Speaker 3: because he is going to be playing at first base. Now,
Speaker 3: I wonder if maybe they mix him in behind the
Speaker 3: dish a little bit. With Ivon Herrera out for the
Speaker 3: next month, it's gonna be Paez mostly. I wonder if
Speaker 3: Wilson gets in enough just to keep that eligibility for
Speaker 3: another year. That's a potential. I'm not sure if that's
Speaker 3: gonna happen or not, but he would be my choice. Regardless.
Speaker 3: You're gonna get more played appearances out of him. But
Speaker 3: I also think the production what we've seen from him
Speaker 3: over the last several years. If there's anything you can
Speaker 3: say about Wilson, contreres its consistency pretty much every single year.
Speaker 3: Last year he did miss a little bit of time,
Speaker 3: but he's been a twenty home run, sixty RBI, five,
Speaker 3: stolen base two forty five guy pretty much every year
Speaker 3: going back to like twenty seventeen, and I think that
Speaker 3: you can kind of bank on that. Even though he
Speaker 3: started off very slow. This is just a buying opportunity
Speaker 3: for me. Is he going to strike out forty three
Speaker 3: percent of the time when he's been a twenty four
Speaker 3: percent guy. No, is he going to be walking four
Speaker 3: percent of the time when he's been ten percent for
Speaker 3: his career. No, these are just all sample sizes. He's
Speaker 3: had forty three at bats. Anybody panicking on Wilson or
Speaker 3: even panicking on yainor Diaz would I would buy both
Speaker 3: of them, But for me personally, I think I would
Speaker 3: just I would go with Contreras.
Speaker 2: Samsi's like you said it earlier in the show, like
Speaker 2: not getting too far off of our preseason valuation. I
Speaker 2: think that's kind of important. There are some instances leagues
Speaker 2: kind of change, you know, because we're now in this
Speaker 2: stage where like if you're in a ten team league,
Speaker 2: could you drop a Casus, could you drop a Viento?
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, probably you probably could. In a ten
Speaker 2: team league and a twelve team it makes it a
Speaker 2: little bit tougher, and I'm still not making any drastic decisions,
Speaker 2: But for the most part, you know, I'm in a
Speaker 2: league where Yanire the Fantasy pros actual league. Yani is
Speaker 2: just sitting out there, but it's like I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of waiting for him to get going. But it's like
Speaker 2: a ten team league. It's a ten team company league,
Speaker 2: so I don't I don't feel the push that I got.
Speaker 2: You know, I'll just go with like hot hands right
Speaker 2: now until he starts rocking. But I would also go
Speaker 2: with Wilson Contrera's last one is our boy, Fred Dinger.
Speaker 2: I need to add some sp depth in a fifteen
Speaker 2: team keeper league. Thoughts on a J. Smith with Shaver,
Speaker 2: Tyler Molly or Tobias Harris. If you could only pick
Speaker 2: up one of those guys. Tyler Molly's actually pitching right now,
Speaker 2: got a little run support from Corey Seeger hitting a
Speaker 2: bomb early on against Shota, Tobias Myers is close to
Speaker 2: coming back, and a J. Smith Shaver in that rotation.
Speaker 2: If you can only pick one of those in a
Speaker 2: keeper who would you take? You?
Speaker 3: Said Tobias Harris at first, Do you have a basketball
Speaker 3: on the mind?
Speaker 2: Did I did? I? Yeah, yeah, say the former small forward.
Speaker 2: I do that all the time because I'm a multi
Speaker 2: sport type of person. Yes, Tobias Meyers, I'm.
Speaker 3: I'm just messing with you. I'm just messing with you.
Speaker 2: I thank you for me all the freaking time.
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know that the ceiling is terribly high
Speaker 3: with Tobias Myers or Molly, I think, especially if from
Speaker 3: a keeper standpoint in a deeper league, I think I'm
Speaker 3: going with a J. Smith Shaver. We've seen some instances
Speaker 3: where he kind of looks like he could put it
Speaker 3: together at some point. It hasn't happened yet for him.
Speaker 3: You know, his couple starts this year so far haven't
Speaker 3: been that great. But I think think from a long
Speaker 3: term context, I trust him more than the other guys,
Speaker 3: especially Molly Molly. I just don't really trust the health
Speaker 3: and Myers. Myers could be a decent back end guy,
Speaker 3: but if you're shooting for upside, I think smith Shover
Speaker 3: is probably the way to go.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Molly's not in this unless I'm just like
Speaker 2: I'm trying to play for like some wins and it's
Speaker 2: arrangers and stuff. If that's the only context, which almost
Speaker 2: is like, I don't even care if it's a keeper
Speaker 2: because I'm not going to keep him. Smith Shover's the youngest,
Speaker 2: highest potential. But I will tell you there's a little
Speaker 2: part of me that feels like maybe it's Tobias Myers
Speaker 2: and not Tobias Harris. Obviously he hasn't pitched so far
Speaker 2: this year, but it's just a good year. Last year
Speaker 2: I expected Era was in the fours. I don't know, man,
Speaker 2: I guess that would go Smith Schover. He just hasn't
Speaker 2: been great. His walks are through the roof right now.
Speaker 2: The k percentage isn't up, Like we're not seeing a
Speaker 2: ton of progression at this moment. So maybe you kind
Speaker 2: of almost break it down where it's like, well, hey,
Speaker 2: guess what Molly might be the best wins play, might
Speaker 2: be the best overall play, and Smith Shaver is the
Speaker 2: best long term play. So maybe you can adjust accordingly
Speaker 2: Fred to your team context and that's how you could
Speaker 2: play it. But Molly's kind of on the back end
Speaker 2: there for me, and there you go. That is the
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