Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We all got
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Speaker 1: Bethany Joy Lens. Welcome to our coven. You guys, You
Speaker 1: guys are awesome. Okay, so we're gonna give you the
Speaker 1: heads up. We threw away the script because this is
Speaker 1: the last show, the last top of our tour. We
Speaker 1: have had the best time. It's been a blast, and
Speaker 1: we were just like, we're not going to do it
Speaker 1: the way we've been doing it. We're just gonna make
Speaker 1: some up, right, Philly, how are you ready to party?
Speaker 1: All Right? The late night show always ends up being
Speaker 1: a little salty, right. I think that's such a rowdy crowd,
Speaker 1: especially here in Philly. I love this city. This city
Speaker 1: is so cool. I've been to Philly once before. I
Speaker 1: think maybe on the tour that the one to Reel
Speaker 1: tour we did with Tyler and Gavin to Grand Michelle
Speaker 1: and um, but I didn't get to really spend time here.
Speaker 1: It was just sort of on and off the tour bus.
Speaker 1: So this is really cool. We were driving through the
Speaker 1: city like, it's so artsy, it's so interesting. There's obviously
Speaker 1: so much history here and it's like spooky you guys.
Speaker 1: We were in the car and we were like, do
Speaker 1: we need to move here? It's cute. It has all
Speaker 1: of like the checklist items if you're a witch. It's
Speaker 1: like cute little shops check, cobblestone streets chu, creepy alleys check,
Speaker 1: you know, all the obsessed with all the what do
Speaker 1: you call it on the walls with their saying outside guys.
Speaker 1: We were talking backstage with the nice ladies who helped
Speaker 1: us get ready, who were like, well, you must know
Speaker 1: fill in the blank, like restaurant whatever, and we were
Speaker 1: like no, and they said, well, how haven't you ever
Speaker 1: been to Philly? And I was like no, Oh, there
Speaker 1: was this one time I gave him the filling and
Speaker 1: I spoke to the girl scouts. They did like a
Speaker 1: girl Scout convention here and it was so cute and
Speaker 1: they were like five thousand little girls. They were really
Speaker 1: excited about community service. And two of my friends were
Speaker 1: with me and it was like we it was so good.
Speaker 1: It was being in a Disney cartoon. That that night
Speaker 1: we were walking to dinner, we crashed the wedding. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is the wedding, Cristy. Yes, so if you guys
Speaker 1: don't think for a second. We saw a party tent
Speaker 1: being put up like a few blocks from here, on
Speaker 1: our way to the show tonight, and Sophia's late, remember
Speaker 1: what block this is on. I was like, listen, I
Speaker 1: have a tradition here. I'm in somebody's wedding video. I
Speaker 1: was only in their reception for eleven minutes, but I
Speaker 1: figured i'd make account. Oh yeah, surely there's a Wednesday
Speaker 1: wedding happening somewhere. Of course, why not? Or maybe up
Speaker 1: our mitzvah. This guy, we said, let's get into trouble.
Speaker 1: Let's mix it up. What's the trouble we want to
Speaker 1: hit in Philly? What do we want? Fish Town? What
Speaker 1: is then this town? This shown doesn't sound like okay,
Speaker 1: she says fish towns where the witchy stores are. Oh
Speaker 1: she's a witch. Okay, okay, listen, I see you, I
Speaker 1: hear you, I feel you, I understand. Thank you. Sister. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have felt that this is very much the city
Speaker 1: of sisterly love. Yeah, definitely. The first audience was so loving,
Speaker 1: so we felt kind of letting them know, this is
Speaker 1: villain's night, so we want to talk about all things
Speaker 1: evil tonight. Have you guys gotten to play bad guys before?
Speaker 1: Mark Davis used to be kind of a bad guy.
Speaker 1: Don't talk about you that way. I love her, but
Speaker 1: she can throw him a nice punch and good slap. Yes,
Speaker 1: as the person on the receiving him that just watched
Speaker 1: that episode today, Yeah, yeah, that was that was brutal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a hard slap. We did a podcast today
Speaker 1: in our hotel and we all went, um, I got
Speaker 1: to play a villa. I just did that movie so
Speaker 1: called The River, and so I kind of turned into
Speaker 1: a villain in that and then also an agent of Shield.
Speaker 1: I was like kind of creepy and cold and villainy.
Speaker 1: That was. It's fun. It's always the most fun to
Speaker 1: play at the villains because they're just so bad and gated.
Speaker 1: I just break up relationships. That's like every show I'm on.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys are enjoying that. So you're an
Speaker 1: emotional villain. It's what you're saying. Up, let's kiss Yeah.
Speaker 1: Lots of different kinds of villains who are like our
Speaker 1: our hero villains. Yeah, who's your favorite when you were
Speaker 1: grown up? Like for me, Alan Rickman and die Hard
Speaker 1: is like so fi he's so evil. He's so evil,
Speaker 1: but he's also like, you'd still kiss him. He's got
Speaker 1: a cool accent, he dresses nice, like he's ambitious. That's
Speaker 1: attract dude. I felt that way about. I can't remember
Speaker 1: his character's name. I feel like maybe it was Jack
Speaker 1: in Outlander, Tobias Menzies in Outlander, Like he was really
Speaker 1: I just was so it was the same vibe, was
Speaker 1: like I hate you, I kind of want to make
Speaker 1: out with you. I'm gonna kiss you. Yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: we're all in therapy. No, I'm not. I'm married Megan,
Speaker 1: Like I literally saw it, grabbit kid, who's your favorite
Speaker 1: villain growing up? Oh? Man, you know what she's laughing already. Okay,
Speaker 1: So one of my favorite movies growing up was The
Speaker 1: Princess Bride, of course, and I watched it over and over,
Speaker 1: like I burned through the VHS tape. And then years
Speaker 1: later I was like, you know what I want to
Speaker 1: have like a throwback to childhood movie, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: watch The Princess Bride. And I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is a comedy, like this is a serious movie at all.
Speaker 1: But as a little kid, I was like, write, some
Speaker 1: unusual size, so dangerous. Oh god, And I thought he's
Speaker 1: not left handed? Oh yeah, why does he have six singers?
Speaker 1: I really thought of all the Pirates, I was like,
Speaker 1: their villains when they get turned good because there's so
Speaker 1: much goodness in this movie. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: they're bumbling idiots and they're adorable. But as a little
Speaker 1: girl who thought that was a serious movie, they were
Speaker 1: like my favorite. I love that. I mean, bad guys
Speaker 1: are the backbonus storytelling, because you can't have a really
Speaker 1: good story without having a villain. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, who
Speaker 1: you ask what da Listen, We're gonna have to have
Speaker 1: two more drinks before dance Scott comes up. It's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one of them. Stop it right now? Is that a
Speaker 1: toll boy? Wow? I'm sorry that all white claw. Wow.
Speaker 1: All right, well listen, how you guys are here with
Speaker 1: your friends tonight. How many of you are here totally
Speaker 1: by yourself and you all right, it's someone next to you.
Speaker 1: Just raise their hand right now, you introduce yourself, you
Speaker 1: say welcome to the one tree for family. That's right
Speaker 1: that you don't just have to do that in church.
Speaker 1: Now you do it at our see you with you, Peace,
Speaker 1: be with you everyone. Our fandom is a family. It's
Speaker 1: so cool when we see people come to things like this.
Speaker 1: You've met online at least favorite part of church, what
Speaker 1: you got to touch. Everybody is welcome. If you haven't
Speaker 1: been here with us, we just want you to turn
Speaker 1: to your neighbor and say good morning. Let them know.
Speaker 1: I hate that part. It makes me so uncomfortable. I'm
Speaker 1: always just like, oh god, no, don't talk to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know you strange, your danger. Yeah, I'm really
Speaker 1: glad we just made at least forty people do that.
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna be fine. Like in this room,
Speaker 1: it's like a pre screen. If you're here, if you're
Speaker 1: with us a Wednesday night, you're probably a pretty cool person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all on this journey together. Joy do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about journey? I love talking about Journey's Hillary.
Speaker 1: Today's Journey is brought to you by Cheap Caribbean. Al Right,
Speaker 1: to all of our drama Queen's friends out there, this
Speaker 1: tour has been incredible, but also this last year of
Speaker 1: podcasting with you guys, hanging out with us, has been
Speaker 1: so awesome. So cheers, cheers to our sisters. Here's well,
Speaker 1: we want to talk to you some more about your
Speaker 1: favorite villains, and we want to talk to your favorite villains.
Speaker 1: So we brought some pretty cool people on the store
Speaker 1: with us, and tonight we had Nanny Carey and Dance
Speaker 1: Spot and Paul Joe Hanson. Yea, he's a teddy man.
Speaker 1: Hello everyone. Yeah, I know, I didn't hear that song,
Speaker 1: the Bad Boys song that came on when we came out.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Honestly, they were like, what song should we
Speaker 1: have for like Phil and Knight, and I think we
Speaker 1: joke at Lea said on the zoom We're like Bad
Speaker 1: Boys the cup Steam song, and then we never followed
Speaker 1: up and it was like, you know what, that was
Speaker 1: the right choice. He's a director, she's the muscles on
Speaker 1: this man joys this muscle. Hello, well has been doing
Speaker 1: push up stage. Do you feeling to stay super strong
Speaker 1: to be a villain so so you could fight at
Speaker 1: any given time? Yes, yes I do very Tori defeato.
Speaker 1: She defeated me though, right. I tried to. I tried
Speaker 1: to for a time, for a time. Okay. My question
Speaker 1: is that's a that's a. My question is you when
Speaker 1: you were in Berserker with Craig Scheffer. I want to
Speaker 1: know about playing a villain in that movie? I was.
Speaker 1: I was the hero in that movie. Yes. Berserker is
Speaker 1: a classic film, which I'm sure you've all seen. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I shot it in nineteen in South Africa, and I
Speaker 1: was a Viking who traveled through time because a spell
Speaker 1: was cast on me by a witch. My brother stay
Speaker 1: with me. My brother tories like my brother played by
Speaker 1: Craig Schiff for three years before Winter Hill, and my
Speaker 1: brother followed me through spacetime into the future in Sweden,
Speaker 1: where I was a Viking berserker warrior looking to kill
Speaker 1: the witch to cast a spell on Are you still
Speaker 1: with me? Okay? I didn't shoot him, but I was going.
Speaker 1: I turned to kill my brother. Look at this good
Speaker 1: and and I before I went to shoot this movie.
Speaker 1: They paid me an extra amount of money to get ripped?
Speaker 1: Can we all say that together? That's what I liked,
Speaker 1: So I'm hearing, is it you and Craig Cheffer essentially
Speaker 1: essentially cast a reverse spell and got us to make
Speaker 1: our show and then got us to show up here
Speaker 1: as witches tonight like that. When I was movie opening
Speaker 1: in the space movie was huge. The movie is a classic.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was nominated for nothing. I don't me
Speaker 1: that you ever got. By the way, the producers who
Speaker 1: made the movie, who was an English company called Peak
Speaker 1: View Entertainment Entertainment, all the producers of the movie went
Speaker 1: to jail for embezzling money from the UK government. It's
Speaker 1: a family. The family, brother, the sister, the brother all
Speaker 1: went to jail for stealing money from UK government for
Speaker 1: you know, making movies and then lying about how much
Speaker 1: it cost and then getting money. There's some of that
Speaker 1: the money they paid you to get Ripped, like I
Speaker 1: got list movie where the budget has been embezzled, then
Speaker 1: you're not working in film. That's right, that's right. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: this is an actor and it was was Nanny carry
Speaker 1: your first villain? Yes, she was most definitely my first villain.
Speaker 1: I even like in theater like high schools anything. Yet, yeah,
Speaker 1: she was my first villain. Do you know she was
Speaker 1: going to be a villain or did you just think
Speaker 1: you were getting cast to play a nice lady taking
Speaker 1: care of a cute kid. I was cast to play
Speaker 1: the nanny. So crazy was in there? It was she
Speaker 1: was in your audition audition. I was just like, oh, hi, Hailey,
Speaker 1: nice to meet you. I'm Carrie. And that was all
Speaker 1: my audition was. So I'm like, what do I exude?
Speaker 1: That made them think like, let's put a little crazy
Speaker 1: and there's what I know. But yeah, no, nothing. It
Speaker 1: was just a nice thing. And then after the first
Speaker 1: chunk of episodes when I tried to break up your marriage, um,
Speaker 1: they called me and they called me because I thought
Speaker 1: I was done. After that, you know, she had been
Speaker 1: cast off and I thought I was done, And they
Speaker 1: called me and they said, what do you think about
Speaker 1: coming back and doing a misery storyline with her? And
Speaker 1: I was like like, yes, are you kidding me? That's
Speaker 1: like the dream? So yeah, I had no idea. What's
Speaker 1: your family say? My grandma was like, well I told
Speaker 1: all my church friends to watch it. She talked about
Speaker 1: the part of the service and everybody's shaking each other's hand.
Speaker 1: She was like, well, I just don't know about you anymore, Tory,
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm sorry. Yeah, that wasn't a
Speaker 1: direct quote. She still loves me, though, she's just a
Speaker 1: little scared of me now. But you know, God, who
Speaker 1: is your favorite villain growing up? Did you have movie
Speaker 1: villains or anything that you have a favorite villain? But
Speaker 1: I think my favorite like scary movie with killer clowns
Speaker 1: from outer space shot? Yes, that was a good one nightmare.
Speaker 1: Who showed you that movie? Me and my best friend
Speaker 1: in middle school used to watch it on repeat. That
Speaker 1: in Greece too, we used to alternate. Wait, so if
Speaker 1: you're watching freaky stuff, did you ever watch Sleepaway Camp? No?
Speaker 1: Because that was also like top tid. I'm going to
Speaker 1: check that one out. Yeah, that's this week's movie that
Speaker 1: he just talked about. A movie like scared the Jesus
Speaker 1: out of you when you were a kid, The ring scared?
Speaker 1: He was the ring terrified. Well, the first movie that
Speaker 1: scared really scared me was Jaws ninety four. I think
Speaker 1: the shark was cardboard Um before c G. I write,
Speaker 1: but the Exorcist. Um. When I saw that and then
Speaker 1: the little girls had spin around. I was really young,
Speaker 1: and I mean literally, I think because I was raised
Speaker 1: Catholic and I really believed all of that stuff, to
Speaker 1: the point where my dad was like putting like holy
Speaker 1: oil on our heads before we go to sleep. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it was. It was traumatic, but look you're here,
Speaker 1: it works. His head starts spinning. The answer sist either
Speaker 1: you've never seen it? Me neither you guys. They shot
Speaker 1: it in d C. And I grew up in like
Speaker 1: outside of d C. And that was like the big
Speaker 1: hot date night, Like you'd go to the stairs with
Speaker 1: the priest cup pushed down the stairs like that was
Speaker 1: a hot date. How about fire Starter? Though, fire Starter
Speaker 1: was actually filmed in Willmington, that Drew Barrymore movie. If
Speaker 1: you've ever seen that poster of Drew Barrymore is a
Speaker 1: little girl with her hair all crazy and then everything's
Speaker 1: on fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was filmed in Wilmington's
Speaker 1: and I remember when we got there that was a
Speaker 1: big deal that we were in the town where they
Speaker 1: had filmed fires this legendary uh Hollywood pedigree history. That's great.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think when you were a little kid
Speaker 1: that you would be creating a scary iconic character. What
Speaker 1: do you want, you guys talking about any good gossip
Speaker 1: over there? Oh? Let me sure, Paul, hold on, are
Speaker 1: they making fun of really talking about Did you ever
Speaker 1: think when you're a little kid, like I'm going to
Speaker 1: create a villain like in your room alone? Yeah? Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: just so you guys should kill the whole thing. I
Speaker 1: had no interest in acting, not like the geniuses over here.
Speaker 1: I really had no interest in acting until I was
Speaker 1: years old. I was a basketball player. I played for
Speaker 1: my university, I played for my country. I was the
Speaker 1: real deal. I wasn't like this diet coke stiff motherfuck cola.
Speaker 1: Like I could really play. So when I was watching you, okay,
Speaker 1: it's a nice move, it's like, I mean, I did
Speaker 1: commercials with Magic Johnson, Tim Hardaway, Spike Lee directed be
Speaker 1: in a commercial. Just mio. I mean I did. I
Speaker 1: was like the I was a real ballplayer, right. I
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna make the NBA, and then I
Speaker 1: came to America and went, know, yeah, I'm not making
Speaker 1: the NBA. So I got in a Yeah, but do
Speaker 1: you feel like that competitive nature? And that's talking on
Speaker 1: the court helped you create characters that were aggressive that way.
Speaker 1: I think that part's probably true, But I will say
Speaker 1: that I think being an athlete got in the way
Speaker 1: of helping with like movement, like being like confident in
Speaker 1: movement and acting, and the confidence is important to that's
Speaker 1: all acting is anyway, by the way. Confidence. Um, but
Speaker 1: there's seriously, there's an intimacy in basketball where you're in
Speaker 1: each other's face. We really like football helmets very intimate
Speaker 1: in basketball law in basketball. No, you nailed it. That's
Speaker 1: what sure plots internacy basketball. I can see Dan Scott
Speaker 1: energy on the basketball court because you get right up
Speaker 1: in people's faces. Yeah, no, you're right. I'm just saying that,
Speaker 1: Like I think that sports can be a little bit. Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't think competition in acting is healthy. I think
Speaker 1: that you need to not be competitive and enacting. I
Speaker 1: know it sounds weird, but I think it's the it's
Speaker 1: really paralyzing because then you start trying to compare your
Speaker 1: work or performance or career. It's it's the opposite. So
Speaker 1: I kind of like fought real hard to try to
Speaker 1: lose that part of my personality in acting because it
Speaker 1: didn't service me, you know what I mean? So then
Speaker 1: which villains did you look to to say, all right,
Speaker 1: these are the granddaddy's of Dan Scott. Right, there's a
Speaker 1: fly that Yeah, depending on your decay, I do because
Speaker 1: he used that blood to paint your eyes. You look
Speaker 1: like that girl the night. Where when is the number
Speaker 1: before Christmas? Thing? Beautiful? Way? No, it's corpse hot Oh
Speaker 1: I was going to go somewhere, don't. Don't. Did either
Speaker 1: of you guys have to like, did you find yourself
Speaker 1: doing research or using character references or anything to sort
Speaker 1: of build the characters of Dan and Carrie? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: practiced using a syringe so many times in my photob
Speaker 1: over and over, like pillows, what oranges, like whatever would
Speaker 1: take me. I was like just like walking around my
Speaker 1: hotel room with syringes. I went. I had to hold
Speaker 1: a revolver and I never held a gun, so I
Speaker 1: went to a gun range. I was so intense about
Speaker 1: doing her because it was also like my first role
Speaker 1: that I was like, people are going to see this.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, and I my first
Speaker 1: I mean probably the whole first season five. Every day
Speaker 1: I went to set, I probably hit it unless you
Speaker 1: saw it. I don't know. I was shaking every day.
Speaker 1: I was so nervous. I remember I had to pour
Speaker 1: coffee pot for one and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, So I like really did some weird
Speaker 1: I remember my my ex husband at the time came
Speaker 1: to visit me and he was literally like, I can't
Speaker 1: be around you. You have to put the syringes away.
Speaker 1: And I was like what, He's like, it's really started
Speaker 1: your soid. I was not. You know, that was my twenties.
Speaker 1: Now I have a little more shill. Did you have
Speaker 1: actresses that you were like the you know, like hand
Speaker 1: the Rocks. The Cradle was great source material for the
Speaker 1: Nanny Carey storyline. Were there any like actresses you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I like this crazy because it's also fun. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't think anything was fun about it because I
Speaker 1: was so into it that every day I was like
Speaker 1: feeling like I had to be so quiet and like
Speaker 1: in my head and in my space and like have
Speaker 1: all this compassion for her. And I was like, and
Speaker 1: you know, I would just go home and play my
Speaker 1: Nintendo ds like the Brain Game to try to like
Speaker 1: not think about set. You never settled into it at
Speaker 1: work where you could enjoy the fun of playing it.
Speaker 1: It was so intellory. Actually, you know what's true. You
Speaker 1: were very quiet on the set, you was I was
Speaker 1: scared of my own shadow, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: wanted to do a good job. It was so intense
Speaker 1: for me. I trying to make you laughing. You were
Speaker 1: just not. I was like, she doesn't laughs, she doesn't
Speaker 1: know how. She's a corpse nurse, corpse hot nurse. What
Speaker 1: was that dynamic for you too, though, because you're used
Speaker 1: to being the bad guy and now all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you're the victim. Was that weird? I mean it's okay, Well,
Speaker 1: that's a great pass to get really into the So
Speaker 1: for me, I don't ever play bad guys effort. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you justify everything they do there. So see how they
Speaker 1: mocked me to see the stuff I take behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Is this exactly? This is abuse. This is abuse. A
Speaker 1: lot of people condescending. She's limpy, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I would like one compliment before we move on, Hillary,
Speaker 1: I talked about your muscles all night. Good enough, Now
Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about my muscles. No, come on,
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, the thing is when you play a
Speaker 1: bad guy, so I studied a little bit of a
Speaker 1: movie called The Great Santini when I got this part.
Speaker 1: If you guys probably don't who that is, but Robert
Speaker 1: Duval played overbearing father. And I know that I got
Speaker 1: this job because, um, the creators of the show and
Speaker 1: the and the Brian Robbins and Mike Tollin's knew me.
Speaker 1: Who were the producers of this show and what are
Speaker 1: the ones they did in Canada? The other shows they did, like, well,
Speaker 1: they knew me because they as a basketball player from before,
Speaker 1: so they knew about my kind of career and they
Speaker 1: knew that my dad was a former hockey star and
Speaker 1: I was a semi successful basketball player in one right.
Speaker 1: But I had that on the court, I was kind
Speaker 1: of known for being really intense in a way that
Speaker 1: was kind of beyond um. It's kind of like you
Speaker 1: ever seen the Michael Jordan documentary. He's just I'm just
Speaker 1: like Michael Jordan's No, but the intensity where it's like
Speaker 1: it's beyond friendships, it's beyond anything. It's about It's about
Speaker 1: the wind. That's it, you know what I mean. Take prisoners,
Speaker 1: make friends later. Right now, I'm here to win, and
Speaker 1: that's how you need to be trained to be like
Speaker 1: you know, the top level athletes. Unfortunately, in a lot
Speaker 1: of sports, I don't know if it's true anymore, but
Speaker 1: that's why they taught us. When I was growing up,
Speaker 1: we had sports psychologists at the Olympic training programs in
Speaker 1: Canada where they would they would come in your room
Speaker 1: before um you go to bed and put a tape
Speaker 1: on and there's a hundred sounds, a hundred of the
Speaker 1: same repetitive sounds of a ball going through a net,
Speaker 1: not hitting the rim, just a net. To sleep to this, well,
Speaker 1: you have to psychologically imagine making every shot before you
Speaker 1: get a better and but that that kind of like
Speaker 1: reinforcement will they do with the US always gonna say
Speaker 1: it sounds like a government experience, like nightmare Like sports
Speaker 1: psychology is a really high level things. For Olympic skiers.
Speaker 1: You have to see every turn and they have to
Speaker 1: success with complete in their minds. But in your mind,
Speaker 1: they go, everything's in your mind, yes, so you just
Speaker 1: think good. So that's why I was danced got that
Speaker 1: way because I played it in through that kind of intensity.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Kind of applied all of the
Speaker 1: intensity of your Olympic training and your basketball history to
Speaker 1: him and then and then did that make it really
Speaker 1: easy for you as Dan to apply that kind of
Speaker 1: intensity to Nathan with the Ravens, Like did it did
Speaker 1: it really just track as honest well for you in
Speaker 1: that way? A beautiful question? Um, you know, and that's
Speaker 1: not kind of that was a That was a beautiful
Speaker 1: question because it cuts to some important points, which is
Speaker 1: um the nuance of of being. Also, how do you
Speaker 1: take all that mixture of what I said a minute
Speaker 1: ago and then apply it to what would I do
Speaker 1: as a real father? What I care for my son?
Speaker 1: How do I want him to be successful? What is
Speaker 1: the right amount of love, the right amount of reinforcement,
Speaker 1: and how do you discipline and self discipline and all
Speaker 1: that kind of deferred gratification that things you need to
Speaker 1: do in order to he wants to do this? How
Speaker 1: do I help them get there? So I over applied
Speaker 1: those things, but I tried to do it in through
Speaker 1: the vein of the idea that he's my son, I
Speaker 1: love him, I want him six seed, and he doesn't
Speaker 1: know that my being tough on him is actually the
Speaker 1: best gift I could ever give him. Through that lens
Speaker 1: is how I played him through Nathan. The whole story
Speaker 1: when I'm with Lucas was a completely different approach, as
Speaker 1: completely different approach, so I could separate the two. So
Speaker 1: you'll see that I never talked to the two the
Speaker 1: same ever, ever, ever, ever, because I approached them completely different.
Speaker 1: So yeah's got the mayor may Dan great again? But
Speaker 1: too soon? Sorry, I mean they are similar. It's a
Speaker 1: good client. Were you that? Were you always surprised when
Speaker 1: you had fans come up to you and yell at you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Were you if you see since you see Dan as
Speaker 1: not a villain, as someone who you found compassion for
Speaker 1: and you rationalized all of his choices, which you had
Speaker 1: to do obviously, But then did it always kind of
Speaker 1: surprise you when fans would come up and be angry?
Speaker 1: I mean, what's like some of the what's the craziest
Speaker 1: fan experience you had? Because people would come up to
Speaker 1: you mad all the time. This is best transferred to
Speaker 1: Sophia to tell this story. You guys, I will never
Speaker 1: forget the first like, oh, I don't know if being
Speaker 1: an actor was a good idea moment that I had
Speaker 1: was with Paul in the first season of our show,
Speaker 1: and you know it's airing and we're walking down the
Speaker 1: street one day and Will it was daylight, it was
Speaker 1: broad daylight. I don't remember where we were going. We
Speaker 1: don't go out in daylight normally, I know, you know,
Speaker 1: it's rare. It's amazing we didn't combust. But we were
Speaker 1: walking down the street and I just hear you and
Speaker 1: I turned around and Paul just looked so surprised. And
Speaker 1: I had to look around him because look at his body.
Speaker 1: And this woman has run up behind him and she
Speaker 1: had like a you know, one of those persons just
Speaker 1: with a strap, and she grabbed it and was going
Speaker 1: you sweeing her purse, hitting him in the arm. You
Speaker 1: are such a bit dad, What is the matter with you?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, and do you
Speaker 1: remember what you did? You hope? No. Paul is so
Speaker 1: quick and you realized she really thought of you as
Speaker 1: Dan Scott and as she swear person. I'm like us,
Speaker 1: I need an arm. I need you to give me
Speaker 1: an arm. I have to demonstrate and let me act.
Speaker 1: He grabs her and he goes, yeah, baby, I am
Speaker 1: a bad dad and this woman bad day. The way
Speaker 1: you just felt I watched happened to her. It washed
Speaker 1: over her face and suddenly she had her purse like
Speaker 1: this and she was like hi, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't tell if you were going to be charged
Speaker 1: with as salt or get a phone number and go
Speaker 1: on a date. But either way, I'm a witness. He's
Speaker 1: a bad dad. I love. Yeah. Crazy couple interactions too,
Speaker 1: I did. I had weird Yeah, a lot of people.
Speaker 1: It was intense, but the most yes, that was the problem. Right.
Speaker 1: So one that was super memorable. I went to the
Speaker 1: gym and I was getting undressed, not dressed, undressed in
Speaker 1: the locker room and I'm standing there pretty much naked,
Speaker 1: and this girl it comes after me and she was like,
Speaker 1: you're ruining everything. She turned around and walked away, and
Speaker 1: I was like standing there naked, like, oh, just mortified.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is wild. I feel like I
Speaker 1: could see you being in an elevator, like being cute
Speaker 1: with the baby and the mom being like, don't look
Speaker 1: at me. Well, actually, let's telling me about that. I
Speaker 1: was actually volunteering at the children's hospital at U C.
Speaker 1: L A. And I went to go to One Tree
Speaker 1: and I went back to the children's hospital and I
Speaker 1: was assigned to the teen ward. Oh, no, and I'm
Speaker 1: walking down and I see this. Two teens actually come
Speaker 1: out of the rooms, and I swear to you. One
Speaker 1: steps out, looks at me and goes right back, And
Speaker 1: I'm here to help. I wanted to help. Maybe there
Speaker 1: is nothing you could say at that point. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I've played other people too. I'm not going to harm me.
Speaker 1: I swear. That's kind of fun, though, I mean, your
Speaker 1: characters did batch stuff. Is there any stuff you wish
Speaker 1: your character had done? Like, what's the one step further
Speaker 1: that you wish you'd had? Do you sing, Tori, I
Speaker 1: don't because you play violin. You come from a musical family.
Speaker 1: Your sisters also play instruments. Just me. Okay, imagine if
Speaker 1: you'd stayed the nice nanny and you guys could have
Speaker 1: made music. Yeah, been in a band. I mean she
Speaker 1: should have would have could have she just could have
Speaker 1: seen clearly right, that's rue. No, but you know, I
Speaker 1: guess violin. Maybe I could have played for you after
Speaker 1: fit you cockroaches? Would that have been? That would have
Speaker 1: been really romantic? Romantic playing sounds like my Last Tender Day.
Speaker 1: You literally did do everything on the show. I was
Speaker 1: just gonna we jumped the Shark pretty much like from
Speaker 1: the Jump. Um that though, that was our writers being like,
Speaker 1: you know what, you guys have been making fun of us,
Speaker 1: watch this and that was the original hold my beer? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was you guys. Okay, you want crazy crazy? Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of music, we have some great music for you tonight,
Speaker 1: and we're really excited to bring out this band that
Speaker 1: is close to my heart and I'm sure as close
Speaker 1: to yours as well. Ladies and gentlemen, Will you please
Speaker 1: give a huge round of applause for switch Fund Yeah, yeast,
Speaker 1: all right, we're in love with these dudes. At this point.
Speaker 1: We've been on the road together. Hello, Hello, where you
Speaker 1: were trying to We were trying to hang out with
Speaker 1: girls you thought were us in the hotel. It's true.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the awkward guy. That's me. And I saw
Speaker 1: someone who I knew was in One Tree Hill and
Speaker 1: I thought I had met her in d C. We
Speaker 1: were in d C last night and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing. My brother's seeing this whole thing,
Speaker 1: and he's like just laughing, and I'm like I could
Speaker 1: just warn but he's like, good to see you again.
Speaker 1: We met last night and she's like it was a
Speaker 1: story though it was. It was because I didn't know
Speaker 1: who that you guys were seeing there with a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff around you like books and things look like things,
Speaker 1: And I was like, did they live in this hotel?
Speaker 1: Where was I last night that I saw this person?
Speaker 1: I was so confused into this place. Oh yeah, So
Speaker 1: then we walk in here and my brother's like, you
Speaker 1: know that girl, you embarrassed yourself in front of the
Speaker 1: other problem. That's her on stage again. You guys have
Speaker 1: been on the road a lot. We've been on the road,
Speaker 1: you know. We're like, we're learning the ropes of the
Speaker 1: road very slowly. Is this you've been to Philly before?
Speaker 1: I'm sure many many times any time. I love, yes,
Speaker 1: lovely Philly. We cleaned this room many times. I've never
Speaker 1: seen it with chairs before. I'm usually like crowdsurfing or
Speaker 1: climbing up there somewhere, um doing right now all the
Speaker 1: way out there? Um. And I want to I want
Speaker 1: to recall the very first time we ever played a
Speaker 1: show outside of California. It was here in Philly, and yeah,
Speaker 1: this was this was the city where we thought maybe
Speaker 1: we could actually be a band, we could do that. Actually,
Speaker 1: do you remember the drive into that show. I remember you. Yes,
Speaker 1: so were you guys in a van. Yeah, this is like,
Speaker 1: you know, in the year two thousand and and I'm
Speaker 1: driving over the toll bridge. You guys are familiar with
Speaker 1: this from New York to Philly, and there's our third
Speaker 1: time across. Well, so I was getting to that, so
Speaker 1: I kept I was driving, and I kept making a
Speaker 1: wrong turn and looping back around. So it was this
Speaker 1: is my third time paying the same toll. No, we're not,
Speaker 1: We're in that. And then at this point we're late,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like stressed, and everyone's kind of
Speaker 1: on my case of change, and so I'm looking for
Speaker 1: change and I take my foot off of the what's
Speaker 1: it called the break called breaks, and so I'm rolling
Speaker 1: that I don't realize it, and and who's in front
Speaker 1: of us, but I mean taller than you, larger than
Speaker 1: like just like this this just mountain of a man
Speaker 1: on a motorcycle and I just roll right into the back.
Speaker 1: And so it's like he was like out of a
Speaker 1: movie where it's like stands up and you just keep
Speaker 1: standing and then slow walks back and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he thought I was like causing trouble, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I would never do that to someone of your side,
Speaker 1: so please tell me you said exactly that. He sounded
Speaker 1: the fear on my little face. And then then really
Speaker 1: he looked at his bike and he was like, okay,
Speaker 1: no harm done, go on and I was like okay.
Speaker 1: And ever since then we loved Philly. That's right, basically,
Speaker 1: ever since you didn't die getting into the city. You
Speaker 1: like it here, Thanks for letting us back in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you owe Philly payback with a song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, do it on one conditioning us, So we'll
Speaker 1: do this. Um this song. This was the first song
Speaker 1: that really where I fell in love with switch Foot
Speaker 1: as a band, because I was watching my friend Nicholas
Speaker 1: Sparks wrote a book called to Walk to Remember, and
Speaker 1: they made a movie about it, and then you guys
Speaker 1: had this beautiful song featured in the movie and I
Speaker 1: walked around my house for like a year afterwards singing it.
Speaker 1: So this is kind of like a dream come true
Speaker 1: for me. Just bear with me while I have my
Speaker 1: fan girl moment. There's the song that's inside my soul.
Speaker 1: It's the one that I try to write over and
Speaker 1: over again. Awaken the filing. But you seem to me
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. So running bye bye
Speaker 1: li bad to me friend, feel whole well, Sten to
Speaker 1: me of the song of the song of your melody
Speaker 1: dancecing you're laughing, laughing again when it feels like my
Speaker 1: jeans so far, Sten to me face that you have
Speaker 1: have me so well, my eye, my prayer to feel
Speaker 1: only I know I heard out there Philly you're singing
Speaker 1: it's your chance to waltz. You're like I was never
Speaker 1: hereen heard of waltzing before tune my I'm giving you all.
Speaker 1: I want your sympon seeing you know at the time,
Speaker 1: get my down, show me the play another light not dead,
Speaker 1: my to be, to be drink to yours my down.
Speaker 1: Oh look, I mean a dandy with basin for my
Speaker 1: friend joy. You guys keep so much about that high though,
Speaker 1: right right, So I feel like we, um, let's just
Speaker 1: stay in the nostalgia ville. But since it's it's Halloween
Speaker 1: coming up, we've got a Halloween theme. Can I put
Speaker 1: my Bob Dylan costume on there? It is right there
Speaker 1: there is um pretty convincing, right, No, not really chicken
Speaker 1: cheating Bob Dylan, You're Bob Dylan costume looks like a harponica,
Speaker 1: So I want to play one of the first songs
Speaker 1: I wrote after dropping out of college. But it feels
Speaker 1: like you can cheer it out whatever you want. I
Speaker 1: know we're driving, fumbling his confidence and wondering why the
Speaker 1: world is past by hoping that he's been moved arguments
Speaker 1: and failed attempt to fly hat fly had We even
Speaker 1: meant to live so much for feel lobster, So it's
Speaker 1: smelly literious, smelly. We even meant to live so much,
Speaker 1: and we lost ourselves Smarry liarside, dreaming about providence. Whether
Speaker 1: mind's like me got a second try high. Maybe we've
Speaker 1: been hiving with the eyes of open. Maybe you were
Speaker 1: bent and broken, broken, broken, We remant to live so
Speaker 1: much smaller, and we lost ourselves to spry lit inside
Speaker 1: smeary liarsa. We were meant to live so much and
Speaker 1: we lost ourselves. May live in you want in The
Speaker 1: squirrels got to offer, Yeah, we want more in this
Speaker 1: world is got to offer, Yeah, we want more. And
Speaker 1: the words and the words of our father's everything is
Speaker 1: side screens for second life health. You manage late so
Speaker 1: much world, and we lost ourselves and we managin late
Speaker 1: so much more. We lost our settings and we mention
Speaker 1: it souls and we lost ourselves being ment to leave. Why,
Speaker 1: thank you very much so we I just realized we're
Speaker 1: coming back to Pennsylvania in a couple of weeks. Is
Speaker 1: playing a month a month? I don't know the dates.
Speaker 1: It's a Christmas too. We're doing a Christmas to a
Speaker 1: little Bertie told us. But these guys will be back
Speaker 1: here on December six. Thank you put it in your calendars.
Speaker 1: Are you guys gonna dress like handsome Santence? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to give it away. Wait before you
Speaker 1: do your next song, guys, there's an experience like the
Speaker 1: last show. This was so cool, and I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: our backup house lighting can do the same thing that
Speaker 1: you did last time, because this is such a cool experience.
Speaker 1: If you guys will get your phone lights ready and
Speaker 1: just do the whole little thing that you guys did
Speaker 1: last time, you guy, turn off off, us off, and
Speaker 1: just like enjoy this magical experience because this song is
Speaker 1: super meaningful to me and I know it will be
Speaker 1: to all of you. Be like Christmas lights for Halloween.
Speaker 1: That's a night it's about as awkward as I am.
Speaker 1: You are welcome to the place. Welcome to exist, Sank.
Speaker 1: Everyone's see here, everyone's see you, everybody's watching you, everybody
Speaker 1: wit you happen. What happens is what happens. Dare you?
Speaker 1: Dare you? Dare you yourself? Out blue? Dare you dare
Speaker 1: you like to day wrapppen today happen. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: on record and say the three crowds we've had, this
Speaker 1: is the best crowd yet, y'all. Yeah, I got to
Speaker 1: the far culture is as you see, the tension is
Speaker 1: right here, and the tension is right here. It's between
Speaker 1: the way he's through spins and I should dare you?
Speaker 1: Dare you? Dare you got self? Dare you dare you to? Day?
Speaker 1: Never never mere Soris? Maybe we get this is right
Speaker 1: where you do where she can't run to the same
Speaker 1: on yourself? Where are you gonna go? Where are you
Speaker 1: gonna go? Ahead? Are you gonna runt? Now? He ain't
Speaker 1: gonna hear you one last time before we go back
Speaker 1: to California. I mean it's that's going to get where
Speaker 1: you're gonna run to? Dare you? Dare you? Dare you
Speaker 1: yourselfer out to go dare you? Dare you? Wow? Wow, wow,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, pi A, Yeah, thank you for
Speaker 1: having what a gift. Yeah, it's beautiful. Wow. That is
Speaker 1: a level of an astous amazing. Look here, we like
Speaker 1: they hung out with this yesterday and d C and
Speaker 1: we're like, oh cool to watch somebody performed three times
Speaker 1: in two days and still be like, oh yeah, solid.
Speaker 1: Well because you also talk about the fact that Joy
Speaker 1: gave me massive chills. Yes, I like staring at her like,
Speaker 1: are we gonna name this episode the high Note? I know? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks guys. You know, singing is a little bit like
Speaker 1: basketball and you have to hit the high note. You
Speaker 1: really imagine it going up and over and right into them.
Speaker 1: That guys, we are so happy to be here on
Speaker 1: our last show with you, and we want to answer
Speaker 1: your questions. We want to be about to talk to
Speaker 1: you a little bit. You've got one of our producers
Speaker 1: out here who's going to pass a microphone around. You
Speaker 1: know you're there, Summer. I love seeing those houselights. It's
Speaker 1: nice to see all you guys. Can we raise the
Speaker 1: house here? That's all right, We have our first question
Speaker 1: of the night from Claudia. Hi, Claudia, Hi. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm talking to you
Speaker 1: right now. Um. My question is if you could play
Speaker 1: any other character on the show, who would you play? Dan? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say, of course. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is the sweetest thing, baby baby, repeat that, please, hot dad,
Speaker 1: Chris Keller. But wait, what is that? Chairs? I want
Speaker 1: to play deb real bad ye. So what you're saying
Speaker 1: is it we all want to be there? What was
Speaker 1: your favorite scene to shoot with Barbara? By the way,
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite or like a great dad?
Speaker 1: Come on, you need to reenact the scene. All the
Speaker 1: stuff when we were like can with each other was
Speaker 1: but I want to talk about who I wanted to play?
Speaker 1: Who do you want to play? I would I wanted
Speaker 1: to play Keith part and I got really upset when
Speaker 1: I found out, Like what do you mean I'm I'm
Speaker 1: the bad guy? And they were like, no, no, you
Speaker 1: want to be the trust But I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: want to be the cool guy that everybody wants to
Speaker 1: go to a talk to, Like no, you don't you know, no,
Speaker 1: I do that. I literally had those conversations and then
Speaker 1: they said, just embrace it. Trust us, You're gonna the
Speaker 1: storyline is gonna go something you guys do well in
Speaker 1: real life. You're the guy, the cool guy that everybody
Speaker 1: goes to. Sorry, what about you? Who would you want?
Speaker 1: Who would you play? Jamie? I feel like we can
Speaker 1: stretch you can stretch yourself a little bit more than that. What,
Speaker 1: Um No, I mean, I don't know. I mean I
Speaker 1: would definitely be fun. Although no, I don't want the
Speaker 1: cockroaches in my face, so I don't want to fight
Speaker 1: you there. That would have freaked me out. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know, really, I mean, all the characters seem so fun,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: like playing the villain. I kind of wouldn't trade her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that Danny, it was like grazed you. So we could
Speaker 1: have had a redemption story, you know, No, right, no,
Speaker 1: But that was lambed in the face. Then I got
Speaker 1: you know, with the champagne bottle, and then I came
Speaker 1: up again and then I got shot. So it was
Speaker 1: like so many times, so dead, so dead. Cornfield was
Speaker 1: a nightmare. Oh I know it was. And then I'll
Speaker 1: never remember, I'll never forget. I had the TV on
Speaker 1: in the other room and I heard um from the
Speaker 1: soup that showed the soup that used to be on it.
Speaker 1: I heard coming up, there's a crazy nanny in Tonna
Speaker 1: just won't die. And I was like, oh, it was
Speaker 1: me like this running through the cornfields with a syringe.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh no, you made it, baby
Speaker 1: made it. Thank you so much. That's awesome opening to
Speaker 1: the show when they had all of this all glossy
Speaker 1: and they gloss that out like that. Do you remember
Speaker 1: which the original opening to One Tree Hill we all
Speaker 1: had to fade don't away like soft Instagram? Does that now?
Speaker 1: Hard paths? You know? Fi Sparker filter? What's our next question?
Speaker 1: Our next question is from Danny. Hi, Danny, what's up?
Speaker 1: How are you? Are? Pretty good? You're my wife Tara
Speaker 1: ten year wedding anniversary anniversary There she is the real
Speaker 1: quick on the production accounting us. Engaged obviously over ten
Speaker 1: years ago. I got a phone call to do a
Speaker 1: job what no iron Man three what all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and it basically told her I'm like, hey, I got
Speaker 1: a job offer and she's like, oh no. I'm like
Speaker 1: we have to leave and she's like, oh no. I'm
Speaker 1: like it's for Iron Man three. She's like, where is it?
Speaker 1: So will meet to North Carolina. She's like, let's go. Yes,
Speaker 1: yeah that where's my dude. We're working on it. Your
Speaker 1: Asian answer, My question is with the craziness of the
Speaker 1: industry and the work and how do you balance work
Speaker 1: relationships with family relationships? Great question. Yeah, I mean our
Speaker 1: families will know each other. Yeah, they do. Our families
Speaker 1: also just you sign up for the circus, you know,
Speaker 1: that's what we do. So I think that's that's a
Speaker 1: part of it. You have to sort of know what
Speaker 1: you're getting into. We're raising kids in an environment where
Speaker 1: it's the location of their where they're going to grow up.
Speaker 1: Isn't always going to be stable. Um Our presence is
Speaker 1: you know, in and out. But like for example, my
Speaker 1: daughter who's eleven, Um, it's hard for her when I
Speaker 1: go away, for if I'm shooting a movie, you know,
Speaker 1: three weeks at a time, or like this even just
Speaker 1: seven days. But she knows that when I'm home, she
Speaker 1: actually gets me for a lot more time than like
Speaker 1: most kids whose parents are working nine to five jobs
Speaker 1: because I'm home all day and especially even during the pandemic,
Speaker 1: I was with her all day. Well, I guess everybody
Speaker 1: was with their kids all day, so never mind, forget.
Speaker 1: I said that was a stupid thing to say, but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, yeah, so there is
Speaker 1: gonna be an element of unpredictability, uh, with your schedule,
Speaker 1: And I think I don't know. For me, it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of kind of knowing what you're what you're
Speaker 1: in for. Yeah, honestly, Like we've known Maria her entire life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she knows you guys. You guys have known my kids
Speaker 1: their entire life. When George was like my daughter when
Speaker 1: she was like three months old, Paul wasn't down filming
Speaker 1: and like held her and rocked her at a restaurant,
Speaker 1: you know. And so you make your your work family
Speaker 1: your family family. And it's so nice. And my husband
Speaker 1: got home from work the other day when we finished
Speaker 1: our New York shows and took a nap, and when
Speaker 1: he woke up, Robert Buckley's on the couch and he
Speaker 1: was like, Hi, my man, how are you? You know,
Speaker 1: Like that's a weird thing to wake up to. But
Speaker 1: when you marry a one tree Hiller, you have to
Speaker 1: understand when you wake up, there will be another one
Speaker 1: tree Hillery. That's just it. Yeah. I mean my husband
Speaker 1: texted me earlier and I was like, how are your wives?
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, no, it's great, and this
Speaker 1: is why it works. That's right. How's it? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're raising a son who is the same age as
Speaker 1: my daughter. What's what's it like balancing that out when
Speaker 1: you have to go away on location and things. Shoot, uh, well,
Speaker 1: my son's like go you know, see when you come back.
Speaker 1: He's not clingy. I don't know. He's just as you
Speaker 1: and you're not being does because he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: do his homework. But you know he's not. He's not
Speaker 1: you know. I love that. I love independence, but I
Speaker 1: think that's part of it. Our kids are growing up
Speaker 1: with a sense of independence and they're learning how to
Speaker 1: work it. That's what they're learning how to do. They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you were out of town so I couldn't possibly do
Speaker 1: my homework. It's probably why so many show kids go
Speaker 1: into showbiz who have parents who are in showbiz. But relationships,
Speaker 1: I'm done. But like the boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife is
Speaker 1: different than the kids. Things totally different animal to handle
Speaker 1: because you need to be connected. I also think it's really, look,
Speaker 1: everybody has a complicated life. We don't. It's not like
Speaker 1: the twenties anymore, where people live where they grew up
Speaker 1: and married. Everybody married somebody from high school and whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like, we're the most mobile, digitally connected global generation
Speaker 1: in history, right, And that's not unique to our industry.
Speaker 1: I think what can be tricky about our industry is
Speaker 1: they don't care what your life is. And you know
Speaker 1: that you get a job and you have to go,
Speaker 1: and if you can't go or don't want to go,
Speaker 1: there's a thousand other people who want your job. And
Speaker 1: I think what becomes incredibly important, but I believe this
Speaker 1: to be universally true, is that you have to cultivate
Speaker 1: a community that sees you and roots for you, so
Speaker 1: that when you're gone and you're on a night shoot
Speaker 1: at some location that's only available on a Saturday, so
Speaker 1: you're missing somebody's wedding or a holiday or a birthday, which,
Speaker 1: if you want to be a working actor, is going
Speaker 1: to be your life. Your friends are proud of you,
Speaker 1: and they will make themselves available when you're home, and
Speaker 1: you also become, as we all are, people who really
Speaker 1: learn how to travel well. I am a professional traveler
Speaker 1: because something is happening, I will pretzel myself to be there.
Speaker 1: And we do that for each other now. And people
Speaker 1: who don't like it, don't like you're on a journey exactly.
Speaker 1: Get ways. We're very transient people. We just go, go, go,
Speaker 1: you know. So you get good at communicating and you
Speaker 1: show up when you can, and then you find people
Speaker 1: who look at you and say that that's enough and
Speaker 1: that's the only way it works, and then you just
Speaker 1: make the sacrifices that you need to make. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: turn the job down because your kid needs you to
Speaker 1: be home, so you just do it, you know. But
Speaker 1: it's a case by case basis. Hey, thanks for working
Speaker 1: in the business. Yeah, well, going to the circuit. Hey,
Speaker 1: what's our next question? I see someone rocking a baby
Speaker 1: back there? Hold on, baby, can you pass that person
Speaker 1: in microphone? Because can you pass that baby up here?
Speaker 1: I would really like to know what's going on? Is
Speaker 1: that the youngest one Tree Hill fan? Yeah? He's ten months? Oh,
Speaker 1: my baby's name high Caden. Is he team Broker Team Peyton?
Speaker 1: He better be Team Clean? I mean, don't all who
Speaker 1: are you here with? And why are you rocking the baby?
Speaker 1: Just just meeting him. Yeah? Really? Are you a one
Speaker 1: Tree Hill fan? Yeah? I'm a baby fan. Are you
Speaker 1: to your name? Cat and dad? What because his jersey
Speaker 1: on and everything? Who's your favorite actor on the show?
Speaker 1: I like all of you, but yeah we do too. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you being here, and we've brought our kids
Speaker 1: to set over the years, and so I just saw
Speaker 1: you rocking a baby back there, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: let you know that we appreciate that you're bringing in
Speaker 1: a new generation. Thank you. Sorry to put you on
Speaker 1: the spot. Who do we up next? I don't have
Speaker 1: to put on the spot. Our last question of the
Speaker 1: night is going to be from Jamie and Andrea. Hi. Girls, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm the Andrea part of Jamie Andrea. Um I we
Speaker 1: have two questions. So the first one is I was
Speaker 1: listening to the podcast on my way home from work
Speaker 1: last night. It was like, I don't know if I hallucinated,
Speaker 1: but did you guys want us to dress up like villains? Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes you. I thought we were all alone. So I
Speaker 1: scrambled last minute for a costume and we dressed it
Speaker 1: is this descendance? What villains are you? We just came
Speaker 1: as Wednesday Okay, can I tell you that I saw
Speaker 1: you earlier in the show and I was like, there's
Speaker 1: Catholic schoolgirls here or or none? So I'm from Lancaster
Speaker 1: and I was like, do you think yes? So, I
Speaker 1: mean were either like they're gonna think for Amish or
Speaker 1: Catholic girls. Funday Adams, So glad you got thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But our real question is, so girl to girl doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be yours? But what was your favorite kiss
Speaker 1: on the show? Kiss? That's a juicy question. You mean
Speaker 1: other than when I kissed Hilary whatever? Oh no, I
Speaker 1: feel like I kissed everyone. Yeah, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of like big epic kisses. I mean, who had big
Speaker 1: epics so epic that the song kept coming back for
Speaker 1: like nine seasons? What was that song? Why does it?
Speaker 1: It's like I like, like, I bet you can't close
Speaker 1: stay still like I've I've said, Um, but by the way,
Speaker 1: you guys had like a dozen epic kiss we did?
Speaker 1: We did? I have two favorite kisses for two different reasons,
Speaker 1: between Nathan and Haley. Um, there were other kisses on
Speaker 1: the show that were fun. Um. I think Uh. Even
Speaker 1: though Karen and Keith we've talked about we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: debated about the chemistry and all that, but they're the
Speaker 1: first time they ever kissed. Was it was magical to me.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is finally happening. Oh my gosh. Um.
Speaker 1: But Nathan Haley's first kiss ever of course, which was
Speaker 1: like and I've married a shoot because the rain was
Speaker 1: like pelting into our eyes and it was all fake rain,
Speaker 1: and so it was just like cold, and my hair
Speaker 1: was a mess, and like James was still seventeen I think,
Speaker 1: or maybe it just turned eighteen, and so I was
Speaker 1: a little bit like is this okay? Well, and he's
Speaker 1: so tall that you have to look up the rain
Speaker 1: towers and just be blind. Yeah, so everything I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm just like blank. Um, And you know, we just
Speaker 1: sort of like mashed our faces together and hoped that
Speaker 1: we like found each other because we couldn't really open
Speaker 1: our eyes in the rain. So I was I really
Speaker 1: hope we land this. It was just awkward and weird,
Speaker 1: but it looked so good when it finally happened. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I was there, um, And then
Speaker 1: there was one and I think it's season seven. Maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I think seven but we're making out.
Speaker 1: It's like dream sequence and were in the kitchen. It
Speaker 1: starts raining in the kitchen. Is that seven? Um? I
Speaker 1: don't know how it looked, but we were drinking moonshine
Speaker 1: and it was really fun. It was to share. It
Speaker 1: was day. Somebody busting out one of those little water
Speaker 1: bottles full of moonshine and we were like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be here all night. Let's make it on moonshine. It's acting,
Speaker 1: it's method, don't make it weird. My favorite was the
Speaker 1: state championship with Pat Yes. Chad and I felt so
Speaker 1: much pressure because there was like a thousand extras we
Speaker 1: were we were told we're going to shoot confetti, we
Speaker 1: get one take, there's a crane shot, and it literally
Speaker 1: was scripted as the best kiss ever. It was scripted
Speaker 1: as best period kiss, period ever, period and we're like
Speaker 1: one take, Okay, we know we're gonna do it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go for We're gonna go for it. And you know,
Speaker 1: we were buddies and there were no like feelings like
Speaker 1: that in real life. But i'm gonna tell you that
Speaker 1: kiss was like, hey boss, great chop, you're going to work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that kiss was fun that was a winner? What was
Speaker 1: your winner? It's very funny because when you started talking
Speaker 1: about when it works, because sometimes you don't know if
Speaker 1: you're gonna have chemistry with like one of your friends
Speaker 1: or stranger at the time, a stranger, and I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's cool when it works. And then immediately I flashed
Speaker 1: to the person who will forever remain nameless who bit
Speaker 1: me the first time, and I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 1: is not working and I'm gonna punch you in the face. Um,
Speaker 1: that was not my favorite. The most memorable, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: what felt really sweet was Hammer by the way stop,
Speaker 1: Oh my sweet Moments night though. Um it was what
Speaker 1: I liked about it was that it isn't scripted to
Speaker 1: be this way. But in later seasons, when you know,
Speaker 1: Brook and Julian are together and they've gone through Mike,
Speaker 1: it was so good. And they've gone through this whole
Speaker 1: struggle to figure out whether or not they're going to
Speaker 1: have a family, and then they finally get pregnant. And
Speaker 1: I've been hearing from so many women who were struggling
Speaker 1: with similar, you know, obviously unique but similar experiences in
Speaker 1: their lives, and I was just like, God, this is like,
Speaker 1: this is big and I've had friends who had gone
Speaker 1: through it, and um, when we shot the scene where
Speaker 1: you know I'm in, I think I'm in like a
Speaker 1: red dress or something, and right it's like red with
Speaker 1: white right right, okay, and we only hairstyles. I remember
Speaker 1: the dress and you know, Brooke looks at Julian and
Speaker 1: tells them that they're pregnant. And it felt so important
Speaker 1: to me knowing like who I was carrying into the
Speaker 1: scene with me that I started crying and then Austin
Speaker 1: started crying and we were both just like sobbing, and
Speaker 1: we kissed each other and we were like what the
Speaker 1: was that? But it was like so it was like
Speaker 1: so special, um, because we felt like we were really
Speaker 1: honoring people. And I saw it on screen and I
Speaker 1: was like it, hits, It's really sweet. I like you
Speaker 1: so much. Did you kiss anyone other than Nathan? Are
Speaker 1: you going to say Nathan? Right? Okay, she'll fight you. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I remember that hair poll. I'm not
Speaker 1: coming near her, okays. I like my hair staying on
Speaker 1: my head, Thank you very much. No, I mean I
Speaker 1: can't say Nathan because that was not a consensual kiss.
Speaker 1: I forced myself upon him. God bless you. That is important.
Speaker 1: That is very important, and Nanny Carey did not adhere
Speaker 1: to that. So yeah, yeah, we're learning Dan. We're gonna
Speaker 1: end with you was Dan's Odd's favorite kiss. Why would
Speaker 1: listen to what's your favorite pressure out? I'm feeling very
Speaker 1: pressured right now. Well, ill, let me let me let
Speaker 1: me just say this seems to be very important to
Speaker 1: you guys to get it right. Listen, They've got through
Speaker 1: those tall boys of white cloth. I have a I
Speaker 1: had a big um a towel filled with ice in
Speaker 1: it in my dressing room waiting for me when I
Speaker 1: got back, and I had held it against my head
Speaker 1: and I was holding it in it was just to
Speaker 1: keep the swelling down because I had just done maybe
Speaker 1: my one of my favorite moments ever in acting. Um
Speaker 1: it was it was a flashback to a dream sequence
Speaker 1: is she kind of thing where I was a villain
Speaker 1: in the old days in the nine And I leaned
Speaker 1: in and I gave and I did a lot of
Speaker 1: research on the person I was going to work with
Speaker 1: in this scene. I did a lot of research and
Speaker 1: spent years fantasizing about this tell us. So I had,
Speaker 1: like you know. Little does she know that in my
Speaker 1: at home, in my bedroom, or millions of her soap
Speaker 1: opera pictures of her from her soap opera days. Anyway,
Speaker 1: it was Joy and she um. Now we did five takes.
Speaker 1: We got in the first one, but we needed another take.
Speaker 1: But after every kiss, there was this method actor that
Speaker 1: decided that a full slap across the face was needed.
Speaker 1: I didn't do it. He was like, I can take it.
Speaker 1: Do I look like a sissy? Come on, I can
Speaker 1: take cool little kiss food Anyway, Yeah, anyway, it was
Speaker 1: it was as you but I will tell you I
Speaker 1: really did. I really did feel that they didn't really write.
Speaker 1: Karen and I never had a real kiss. I kissed
Speaker 1: it once and because but there was no real kiss.
Speaker 1: But Deb and I didn't even really they didn't really
Speaker 1: write for me in a way that ever gave me
Speaker 1: that opportunity to kind of explore why did she marry Dan?
Speaker 1: Why didn't Deb marry Dan? It was never put out
Speaker 1: there to go there's a side him that they fell
Speaker 1: in love with, So I wish that they would have
Speaker 1: kind of covered a little bit of like, because even
Speaker 1: people did break your heart or hurt you whatever, there's
Speaker 1: a reason you're with them, right, And I wanted to
Speaker 1: explore that as an actor, as a character, I didn't
Speaker 1: really get that opportunity. I'm not putting anybody down to
Speaker 1: complicated show with lots of characters, and wasn't really time.
Speaker 1: But I think it would have been interesting to see
Speaker 1: why they fell in love with him. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: I love that you guys are rooting for that. You're
Speaker 1: just like taxic, gimme more. I love it. How can
Speaker 1: Dan never have like a little girlfriend, Well, Rachel, I
Speaker 1: got out of jail and I had a little girlfriend
Speaker 1: in the hotel I got I married Rachel. You know
Speaker 1: there was a lot. I had a side. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little side. But I never kissed Rachel and Da
Speaker 1: we never had a kiss on the show. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they really never let Dan explore a romantic side. Not
Speaker 1: really should have had like a girlfriend named Kimberly who
Speaker 1: was twenty six and like piss deb and Moira off.
Speaker 1: You know, like that would have been a fun storyline.
Speaker 1: Twin Peaks experience, we're in an alternate universe. Dan Scott
Speaker 1: is a hopeless romantic Yeah. The spin off, well in Heaven,
Speaker 1: I guess because I'm dead, So it has to be.
Speaker 1: The spinoff has to be all the ghosts like you
Speaker 1: guys are somewhere in the afterli the GHO you end
Speaker 1: up with Danny Carey. She's like, Phil, we love you guys,
Speaker 1: thank you for making our last show on this tour
Speaker 1: so special. Truly the podcast family. Oh yes, tattoos, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I love you. So She's like, I got
Speaker 1: a gun in my purse. We're gonna do. That's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're going to have people say tattoos
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