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Speaker 2: Does he want the money, absolutely absolutely, But he said

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Speaker 3: The New York Yankees just keep taking hits left and right.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, yeah, we got an extended crew

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Speaker 3: It'slana and AJ from Dodgers camp. Were jealous, but let's

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Speaker 3: do this. Crats, you lead off while AJ gets settled there.

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Speaker 3: Garrett Cole might be the season. You're good, You're good.

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Speaker 3: Tommy John surgery is what Jim Bowden reported on that

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Speaker 2: I read the Will Carroll put out a little article

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Speaker 2: Last year when he went down in spring training, it

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Speaker 1: But we don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously speculation is just that speculation. But this

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Speaker 2: Any team that loses lou this is their ace.

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Speaker 4: This is bad. This is bad. You never want to

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Speaker 4: I don't know anything. I'm not a doctor, but just

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Speaker 5: The back end of a season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but this is even further than that if you

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Speaker 6: he decides to do the Tommy John surgery. We're talking

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Speaker 6: about this earlier, joking that the Dodgers have you know,

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Speaker 6: of depth. I mean, this is more, This is bigger

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, free they got, They have freed rode On,

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Speaker 4: and they kept some guy named strong Man no man.

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Speaker 4: up in arms. Guess what, You're a starter, Marcus, and

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Speaker 4: then what is there a trade? Is there a cease?

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Speaker 4: They call the Dodgers them and say hey, we'll take

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Speaker 4: we want your ninth starter for prospects. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: But if you're the Dodgers, who do you let go?

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Speaker 4: That's my question the ninth starter? I mean, how much

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Speaker 4: I'm just throwing a name out there, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, they just don't have the depth.

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Speaker 4: Agreed, this is bad. This is bad if you're a

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Quick clarification, Tanaka was recommended rest in rehab, not TJ,

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Speaker 4: So, no, usually usually when you hear partially torn UCL,

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Speaker 3: So then what are we doing here, Kratz, Because like

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Speaker 3: Clark Schmidt had a very similar injury last year. They

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Speaker 3: already said three months plus, so missing him for half

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Speaker 3: year as well, right, and now you shift everyone up

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Speaker 3: and calling aj Preller about Dylan Cees? Are they calling

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Speaker 3: Kyle Gibson's agent? What are you doing? They have insurance

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Speaker 3: on Garret Cole's deal too, so they're gonna get some

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Speaker 2: It's okay, okay, well that's good. I'm I'm glad we

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Speaker 2: set that record straight. The guy that they might need

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Speaker 2: to look to right now, because, like you said, you

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Speaker 2: can't just go and steal the Dodgers' ninth starter. You

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Speaker 2: for Dylan cease And is Will Warren ready we watched

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Speaker 2: it this weekend. The guy who made the start for

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Speaker 2: the Yankees against the Cardinals. Is this cookies chance? Is

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Speaker 2: Carlos Carrasco gonna get an opportunity to eat some innings?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: Do they have to try to figure out how to

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Speaker 2: and didn't need Marcus Stroman like that would have been

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Speaker 5: But how did the Yankees get into this position?

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Speaker 4: You guys?

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Speaker 6: I mean, you look at the fact that they obviously

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Speaker 6: You're not anticipating perhaps maybe you were that Garrett Cole

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Speaker 6: Max Freed wasn't in the rotation from the Atlanta Braves.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you have to go out and get somebody,

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Speaker 4: Do they have the prospect capital to do that?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 4: Well, they give up a Spencer Jones to go get

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Speaker 5: You want to win now?

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Speaker 4: Maybe they're in win now mode, aren't they isn't like.

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Speaker 6: A team that wants to rebuild. You want to win now,

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Speaker 6: So you have to go out and get a guy.

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Speaker 6: I agree, think about your prospects later.

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Speaker 4: What about Fetti? What about Fetti from Saint Louis. He's

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Speaker 3: What about our pinstripe territory hosts Derek Levendowski said, Jordan

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, if he's available, obviously it's a good opportunity.

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Speaker 2: But kind of what Alana said, like, you guys are

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Speaker 5: Then yeah, I mean, but.

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Speaker 4: They got free.

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Speaker 2: That's why they got free because of this problem. That's

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Speaker 6: They bolstered their depth, though on the position player side,

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Speaker 3: That was the front office put them in that situation.

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Speaker 3: He's messed up. He keeps getting PRP injections for his

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Speaker 4: Has someone that used their saying bat the whole career?

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Speaker 5: But oh, by the way, this is the same guy Aj.

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Speaker 4: I mean that sucks. This, this sucks. I don't know, gosh.

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Speaker 2: Completely agree. I don't know why. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: I've never heard of it. I've never even hurt anybody

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Speaker 3: Bet MGM. Futures time, the National League winner will be

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine other teams win it other than the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to be it's not gonna be that much.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the Astros have done it recently. It's

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Speaker 2: I'd love to see what the Diamondbacks are because you're

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Speaker 3: I wholeheartedly agree Diamondbacks are definitely a plan. And you

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Speaker 3: I see what you're saying. Do you keep in mind

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Speaker 3: Gambling problem or concern called one eight hundred gambler. Injuries suck.

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Speaker 4: Did you see the record last year when Alvarez played?

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Speaker 4: It was crazy good. They think it was way way

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Speaker 4: I was saying, I have one scar. It's right here.

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Speaker 4: I had my handmaid taking out. I was, where's my

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You don't need your handmaid, No, you don't know.

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Speaker 2: I know it.

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Speaker 4: It just like a little z looks like the Harry

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Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, though, Kratz, because you look

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. Can they afford it?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Speaking from a backup catcher's standpoint, Luis Terenz doesn't

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Speaker 2: That energy that he brings, we saw it last year

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Speaker 4: By the way, you know how Alvarez, You know, Alvrez

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Speaker 6: Yatti is the last person in the world I'd want

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Speaker 1: George Kirby has not been.

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Speaker 1: We did an MRI. M looks great.

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Speaker 7: need to get out, so, much to George's chagrin, we're

433
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Speaker 7: going to take the ball out of his hands. George

434
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 7: wants to keep going and he's going to lose this argument.

435
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Speaker 7: We need the information out, so we will shut George

436
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Speaker 7: down and work on getting the information out. This is

437
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,679
Speaker 7: more like a week to week thing than a day

438
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Speaker 7: to day thing. We just want to make sure we're

439
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,880
Speaker 7: doing the right thing. Wow, We want to make sure

440
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,840
Speaker 7: that we're doing the right thing for the big picture

441
00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 7: of the whole season, as opposed to worrying about opening day.

442
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 7: George will likely start the season on the il, just

443
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Speaker 7: with not having pitched a full build up of spring.

444
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Speaker 7: We don't think this is anything long term concerning whatsoever. Again,

445
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 7: no concerns are the structural issue. We just want to

446
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Speaker 7: make sure we're doing the right thing. So we will

447
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 7: reassess a week from now and see how the inflammation

448
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Speaker 7: looks and see how he's feeling.

449
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Speaker 1: And we'll go from there.

450
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Speaker 3: If you're listening, later on, he said, wow, because the

451
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 3: lights went off for a second, probably because their owner

452
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 3: forgot to pay the Bill on purpose and then quickly

453
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 3: figured it out since their biggest move in the off

454
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: season was Dona Vinsulano and they just assume aja that

455
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: they're perfect set of five in their rotation is just

456
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 3: going to be healthy every single year and get them

457
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Speaker 3: close enough to fifty four percent. So how much does

458
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 3: this hurt when it's to do that not only is

459
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 3: one of the best starters in baseball, but also goes

460
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 3: deep into games and helps the bullpen out.

461
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Speaker 4: I agree this is a big one. As much as

462
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Speaker 4: we talk about col being a big one, this is

463
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Speaker 4: a big one for the Mariners. And my question is

464
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Speaker 4: is I don't know who that was? Who was that?

465
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Speaker 4: Was that the trainer?

466
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Speaker 3: Given the update of no, No's Justin Hollander. He's the GM,

467
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Speaker 3: He's the minion for Topoto Fordapoto.

468
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Speaker 1: Sorry. Yeah.

469
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Speaker 4: My question is is if there's no structural damage, then

470
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Speaker 4: why is he not Why is he sore? I don't understand.

471
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 4: I know there's inflammation in there, but shoulders you never

472
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 4: want to hear shoulders. Shoulders are bad. I mean when

473
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Speaker 4: guys have shoulder surgery or shoulder problems, it takes a

474
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Speaker 4: long time. Elbows or elbows, but shoulders are a different thing.

475
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Speaker 4: You don't want to see this in a guy like

476
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Speaker 4: George Kirkby. We want him back because I want to

477
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Speaker 4: see him pitch. I love watching him pitch. And if

478
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Speaker 4: you're a Mariners fan, you need him back because these

479
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 4: five guys pitched almost every start last year for you.

480
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Speaker 4: He does five guys to be incredibly Again, if you

481
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Speaker 4: have a shot in that division.

482
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Speaker 6: If you have a shot in the division, because they

483
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 6: did not get anybody to bolster their offense, you have

484
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Speaker 6: to rely and anybody puts the Mariners five probably is

485
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Speaker 6: the best rotation in baseball.

486
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Speaker 5: But if over the Dodgers, Yeah, I mean maybe not

487
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 5: maybe I don't know, maybe with stuff.

488
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Speaker 4: Over the Dodgers.

489
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Speaker 5: Maybe with stuff Wow, maybe with stuff.

490
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Speaker 4: But you figure if azaki Tyler Glass, Blake Snow.

491
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Speaker 6: Tyler glasnow has it, I love the good injury problems

492
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Speaker 6: momotos year.

493
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Speaker 5: We don't know what I'm just.

494
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: Saying, stuff wise, stuff wise.

495
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Speaker 5: Okay, let's let's say in the American Lake best.

496
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Speaker 4: Okay, there you go, there you go.

497
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Speaker 6: All right, you're the one that's always calling me a homer.

498
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 6: I'm trying not to be. You can't imagine, you can't

499
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Speaker 6: imagine that you're gonna go through an entire season with

500
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Speaker 6: all five of your guys healthy. Now George Kirby goes

501
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Speaker 6: down with inflammation, but he sore. Who knows if it's

502
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Speaker 6: gonna I mean, he did say. Hollander did say there's

503
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Speaker 6: no structural damage, but you are. If you're gonna win

504
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 6: in the Al West, you're to have to pitch because

505
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 6: they don't have the offense. If anything else happens to

506
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 6: one of their starters, they're gonna be the bottom of

507
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Speaker 6: the division, except for maybe the athletics be.

508
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Speaker 1: Good this year.

509
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 4: These are my sneaky pick to be pretty good this year,

510
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 4: just saying they're my sneaky pick.

511
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: Alana's a Rockies fan. She's not a Dodgers fan. She's

512
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: a huge Rockies fan.

513
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: She was her blue pants, say something different, trust me, okay, okay,

514
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 4: in the hug, In the hugs she received when she

515
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 4: walked in here today, it was like I walked in.

516
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 4: It was like I walked in with Magic. It was

517
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 4: like I walked in with Magic Johnson today. I walked

518
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Speaker 4: in with her. I waited to go in the clubhouse

519
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Speaker 4: with her. And when we walked in, the look, I mean,

520
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 4: the look on these players face, and forget the players

521
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 4: of the clubhouse guys, the media guys. I mean, everybody

522
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 4: that saw her was like, oh my gosh, biggest hug. Meanwhile,

523
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 4: to me, they're like, not true.

524
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Speaker 2: Wait till you gotta wait till you got the Salt River.

525
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 2: Wait till you get the Salt River. It's gonna be

526
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: it's gonna be unbelievable out there, unbelievable. But here's my

527
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: here's that's my issue. If he has no structural damage

528
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 2: and he has soreness in there, one of the things

529
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Speaker 2: that I and maybe some pitchers can can tell me

530
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm wrong on this one, but when your shoulder hurts,

531
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: your command goes. This is a dude that has walked

532
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: like twenty two, twenty three and nineteen guys in full

533
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 2: seasons the last three years. Like, he is a guy

534
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: that has incredible command. I'd hate to see him come

535
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Speaker 2: back and say, well, there's nothing structural. I got a

536
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Speaker 2: pitch through it, and then his command starts to go

537
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:41,360
Speaker 2: because he's still relatively young pitcher and you don't want

538
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Speaker 2: him to rush back, but they need him to rush back.

539
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: So I guess it's good they didn't trade Luis Castillo.

540
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Speaker 3: Too, that's right. So their rotation right now is Logan

541
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Speaker 3: Gilbert stud, Luis Castillo solid although not a one anymore,

542
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: Bryce Miller very good, Brian wu super super stud, but

543
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: also very injury prone. Emerson handtime. It's not been good

544
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: for them, yeah, of course, but also limited. You're saying

545
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: injury wise, he's been.

546
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 4: Yes, they've been very very careful with him.

547
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: Yes, he's been given kid gloves for now. Emerson Hancock,

548
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: who's had fifteen starts the last two years for seven

549
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: to one era, he hasn't worked out really and that's

550
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 3: in Seattle's ballpark. So factoring in obviously, how that's the

551
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: pitchers ballpark, you know, the best pitchers ballpark in baseball,

552
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: this team could be in some trouble. They literally aj

553
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: are going to have to score some more runs to

554
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Speaker 3: get by here if Kirby's missing for a good chunk

555
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,719
Speaker 3: of time, and that's assuming that everybody else is intact.

556
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: I looked after Hancock, there's really not major league ready

557
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 3: starters at all. They are not deep in terms of starters.

558
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 3: They are really thin with their farm system. They have

559
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: a ton of great position players that are still a

560
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 3: year or two away. So I feel like the timing's

561
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: getting weird for this team. They just had these guys

562
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Speaker 3: for their prime for two years. They maybe have them

563
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 3: for another year or two, and then obviously some of

564
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: them are going to leave because they're going to get

565
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: more money elsewhere. Then they're position players are going to

566
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 3: come through, So they're not timing their winning window out

567
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: by of course not going after it hitting.

568
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 6: Wise, But you're also assuming that the physician players are

569
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 6: going to either play over their skis or all have

570
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 6: better numbers than they did the last year. I mean,

571
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Speaker 6: they didn't add anybody to that lineup to lengthen it

572
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 6: at all, so you're again going to rely heavily on

573
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Speaker 6: your starting rotation, who as you mentioned earlier, Scott Kirby

574
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 6: was the only one that really went deep into the

575
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Speaker 6: ball game to kind of save the bullpen.

576
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Speaker 5: So I mean Justin.

577
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 4: Turner said it, he played there. What else you know?

578
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: Justin Turner, he doesn't say things that that you know,

579
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 4: he doesn't mean he doesn't, But Justin Turner said it.

580
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 4: What do you say they didn't do anything and I

581
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 4: don't know why. And he even said, if I'm the

582
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: only one they brought back, guess what they messed up

583
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 4: the offseason if you would have had to trade lose

584
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 4: Luis Castillo to get a bat or a bats with

585
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: an S to help you with money, if they didn't

586
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 4: do that either, And now we'll see. But you made

587
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,959
Speaker 4: fun of the A's made play. I'm telling you right now,

588
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 4: I'm a Sacramento think they're gonna be I think they're

589
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 4: gonna be better than you think.

590
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 5: I hope.

591
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 6: So the team, the players themselves and Kotsay deserve that, agreed.

592
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 4: The fans deserve that, except if they get to the playoffs.

593
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 4: They got to come play here cameelll back branch. I

594
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: don't know where they're gonna play.

595
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: Every team in that division besides probably the Mariners for sure,

596
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: and maybe the Astros were better, are going to be better.

597
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 3: The Angels are not great, but they should be better

598
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: than last year. They actually did things this offseason. Even

599
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: if they're not good, they're going to be better. A

600
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: should be better, Rangers should be better. Astros certainly aren't

601
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: going to be bad. And then you've got the managers

602
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 3: who did nothing and now we're down a number one

603
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: starter already to start the year.

604
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 6: So I mean, at least the spend some money, which

605
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 6: is different than they've done in the past and which

606
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 6: was awesome.

607
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to be money. They're spending other

608
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: people's money because they have to.

609
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 4: But at least they're spending it. There's another team that

610
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: needs to spend it. There's a team in Miami that

611
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: has supposed to and they're's been in anything so all

612
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 4: of Florida.

613
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: All right, one more injury that we didn't have time for,

614
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: but we'll do right now for the YouTube fan Grayson

615
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 3: Rodriguez elbowed his comfort shut down for seven to ten

616
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: days his last start. He was in like the ninety range.

617
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: Exited a couple of batters later when he was chucking

618
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: a pitch or too that I think that we're eighty

619
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: nine miles an hour and they're like, right, get him

620
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 3: out of there so they'll see what happens. Of course,

621
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, he had some issues last year that ended

622
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: his season earlier than he wanted it to be, and

623
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: one of their big reliever signings, Andrew Kittridge, in the

624
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: off season, had knee surgery. This one didn't get a

625
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: lot of coverage, but they were expecting him to be

626
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: a big part of the bullpen one year ten million

627
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: bucks and he's going to miss months of time. So

628
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 3: the Oriols take a hit to a bullpen that should

629
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 3: be pretty good but just lost some depth, and then

630
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: their rotation is thin. We've talked about this. The one

631
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: sign of hope for Os fans. Kratz is Ken and

632
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 3: Patrick Mooney came out with a report last night that

633
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: the Auras are still looking into some other pitching options.

634
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: While the Mariners are not. The Yankees, at least at

635
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: the time, are not. But they said that the Orioles

636
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: are dancing around to see what that looks like. Is

637
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,719
Speaker 3: it a top end guy, is it a filler like

638
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 3: bringing back a Kyle Gibson. It sounds like they're going

639
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: to need something.

640
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 4: Now.

641
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: They definitely need something, just for the fact that you

642
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: need those innings. You can't you can't replace Grayson Rodriguez.

643
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 4: You can't.

644
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: He's on here all the time, Howie talks. You know,

645
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: the energy that he brings to that team, So if

646
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: they need to try to replace him, you can't just.

647
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: Be like, oh, okay, we'll just go get Dylan.

648
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: Sees like that is a also not a because of Like,

649
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: to me, if you're going to make that big splash

650
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: clearly that you can make it in spring training. AJ

651
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: Pewler is not afraid to trade guys during spring training

652
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: and make these moves late. But they need the innings.

653
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: So right now, you need to find innings, whether it's

654
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: a Lance Lynn, Kyle Gibson had so much success, so

655
00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: many guys on the pitching staff and the position players

656
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: raved about him when he was over there. You have

657
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: to find those innings. And when Grayson comes back, it's

658
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: okay to have Grayson an innings either and a Dylan

659
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: Cees and another guy. You know, it's okay to have

660
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: that because this is where we're at in spring training

661
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: right now.

662
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said.

663
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: That's what he said.

664
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: That's what he said.

665
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: That's what he said. Hey, we've got Juan Soto quotes.

666
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: He's been speaking doing a little podcasting, and he addressed

667
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: the rumors about the Yankees security guard that was given

668
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: his team the Heisman last year. He said, quote, It's

669
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 3: not true that I had problems with a Yankee security guard.

670
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: It's not true that I asked for a luxury suite,

671
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: and it's not true that the Yankees reached a point

672
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: in the offer where the difference with respect to the

673
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 3: Mets offer was forty million dollars. Let's show the other

674
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: one too, and then we can comment on it. He

675
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: talked about the National's offer from several years ago. He said,

676
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: I got three offers. First, an offer similar to a

677
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 3: Kunya steal and that was eight years, one hundred mil

678
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: I think, plus options that he's on right now. Then

679
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: another offer similar to Tatis, who's in the three hundred

680
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: something range. Then came the four undred forty million dollar offer.

681
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: If they had signed Trey Turner, Anthony Rendon and Bryce Harper,

682
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: I would have accepted an offer even lower than four

683
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 3: hundred forty million bucks. Crat to you first. Here thoughts

684
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: on both of these.

685
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: I want to hit on this tweet first, talking about

686
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: the Nationals. To me, this show's he wants to win.

687
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: Does he want the money? Absolutely absolutely, But he said

688
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: he would have accepted that had essentially, had the future

689
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: looked bright, had the future had superstars like him, You

690
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: can't tell a superstar look at what we have in

691
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: the minor leagues. Superstars don't care about prospects. He's gonna

692
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: be there for fifteen years. There's gonna be like three

693
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: rounds of prospects that are coming through. Had you signed

694
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: those guys back, you would have still had won Soto. WHOA,

695
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: what a team that would have been had you just

696
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: signed two of those threes guys back, and you can

697
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: you know it's one. I'm pretty sure you didn't want

698
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: to sign back.

699
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: I'm not signing Harper back there. If they signed Harper,

700
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 4: they couldn't afford Soto. They signed Turner Ann Harper, they

701
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: definitely in ye he says he would have taken less

702
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: than four forty. Then why didn't you take the Acunion deal?

703
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: Because then maybe they could have afforded him, but he didn't.

704
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 6: But that's the that's the thing I got out of that,

705
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 6: what krat said about he wants to win. I agree,

706
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 6: if you surround me with some winnable players, surround me

707
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 6: with the good team.

708
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 5: I believe that.

709
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: But the other thing, why did you go back to

710
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 4: the ankle?

711
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 6: And the other thing I got out of it, I

712
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 6: don't think he liked playing with the anchor.

713
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: There you have it.

714
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 6: The other thing I got out of that is Akunya

715
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 6: was way way way underpaid.

716
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: He still way way underpaid him. All these all those

717
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 4: guys they signed, You can you can throw Riley in there,

718
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: you can throw Matt Olson, and then all those guys

719
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: are very underpaid.

720
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 6: I don't like that they locked up their core for

721
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 6: a long time, but holy moly, he's underpaid.

722
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know. I just think. I just

723
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: think that for me. For me, I think sodo. You know,

724
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: it's easy to say this after you signed for seven

725
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 4: hundred and sixty five million dollars. It's easy to say, oh,

726
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 4: I would have taken less, I would have done this,

727
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 4: I would have done that. And it's also easy for

728
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: me to say, oh, well, this wasn't why I left

729
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 4: the Yankees. It wasn't this, it wasn't that whatever. But

730
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 4: these are all things that everyone said happened. It wasn't

731
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: just like some random reporters saying, oh, well he didn't

732
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: want he wanted a sweet and yank say we don't

733
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: do that and this and that. So yeah, listen, one,

734
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: you got all the money, you went to the place

735
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 4: you wanted to go. What did Aaron Judge say he

736
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: wanted to be seemed like he wanted to be with

737
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: the Mets. Well there he is. Now he's got his years,

738
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: he's got his money, go win.

739
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 6: So has the tide turn. Then, is now the Mets

740
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 6: more of a destination than is Queen's more.

741
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 4: Of a la was busy so they couldn't sign him.

742
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 5: We have a good right fielder.

743
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: I know he's awesome. I love that guy.

744
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 6: But I mean, is is the Mets more desirable now

745
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 6: Scott your squad? Is the Mets more desirable than of

746
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 6: being a Yankee?

747
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: I don't know about them being a Yankee. I wouldn't

748
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 3: go that far. I think it's fit by fit though,

749
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: I mean Krats. There is a huge difference between the

750
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: way the Yankees conduct themselves and the Mets conduct themselves,

751
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: and I think they're just two completely different flavors right now.

752
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 3: As you like to bring up, Metts had all kinds

753
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 3: of fun and skits, and that did keep them loose,

754
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: and they spoke about how they loved that. I actually

755
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: put that as a comp to what the Rays do.

756
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: And sometimes you have to tiptoe the line there, right

757
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: because the Rays kind of let them do their own thing,

758
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 3: be themselves. And then it did sound like, obviously when

759
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: times don't go as well, they want to tighten things

760
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: up this year. You don't have that with the Yankees.

761
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: You're not going to have a.

762
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 5: Post g concert.

763
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 6: Why let Jose Glacias go when he doesn't, you know,

764
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 6: if you like the loosey goosey and those types of things,

765
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 6: and he doesn't cost you that much.

766
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: That wasn't about the personality, at least from what I

767
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 3: heard from the inside. They're like, we have a logjam

768
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: right now of players that we need to eventually get

769
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: on the field, bre At Batty, Ronnie Maurisio, et cetera.

770
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: And they're like, those guys don't cost anything. We have

771
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 3: to give them a chance or we're wasting them away.

772
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 3: They feel like some of those guys are big league

773
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: players now. Now I can make the case that they

774
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 3: didn't need to sign Nick Madrigal moot point now anyway,

775
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: because he's hurt, probably down, but they've got the guys

776
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: they need. It looks like Baties crushing it in spring anyway.

777
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: They don't even have a spot frame. He's going to

778
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: be a utility guy. So I just think it was

779
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: a roster move more than anything. I mean, we talked

780
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: about it a lot of For me, it wasn't just

781
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: that the Padres scooped him up on a minor league deal.

782
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, where the hell is the rest of the

783
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: league on this guy short thing. Glove clutches can be

784
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: had a great year last year, but krats anyway. Difference

785
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 3: between the two clubhouses in your mind.

786
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: I mean, talking to some of the Mets guys when

787
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: we were down there last week, I think they were

788
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: kind of over the gimmick stuff.

789
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: What they're not over is just being who they are.

790
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: Giving themselves the opportunity to accept in a superstar, not

791
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: just okay, well now we have to go onto the

792
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: next superstar. And I think there's a different there's a

793
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: different vibe in both those clubhouses. But I think it's

794
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: more from an outsider's viewpoint because the Yankees clubhouse being

795
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: in there, I know it is a lot of fun.

796
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: From the outside, it looks prim and proper and all,

797
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 2: you know, everything in a line. The Mets clubhouse is

798
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 2: just more of what I saw as most clubhouses.

799
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: It just came to light.

800
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: It was just shown through, you know, the New York

801
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: I think the Yankees do a good job of sheltering

802
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: those things that, you know, the games and the gimmicks

803
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: and everything that everybody plays in the clubhouse. If they

804
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: have something, they keep it to themselves. The Mets just

805
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: let it out there. So I don't think there's that

806
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: much of a difference in the clubhouses. But obviously, besides

807
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: the half of you know, half a day I was

808
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: there and last last week in spring training, that's the

809
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: extent of being in the Mets clubhouse for me.

810
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: And Scott Borers, by the way, hasn't said anything officially,

811
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: but I'm sure he'd be like, no, four forty, we

812
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: almost doubled that. Okay, on I would have stopped you

813
00:36:59,520 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 3: he did.

814
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 4: He's a Red Sox fan. He's got some Red Sox

815
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 4: fan anyway, so it doesn't matter. He's a Red Sox.

816
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 4: His hat, his hat, his hat. You wore a Red

817
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 4: Sox hat at the press.

818
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 3: So he's like, maybe he talked them out of the Yankees,

819
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: then don't let's leave them alone.

820
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: Exactly.

821
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 4: He's like Alana with the Dodgers. Nobody's signed with the Rockies.

822
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: Everyone go to La and.

823
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: On the same playing field. Like they're not even big Rockies.

824
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: They are on the same playing field when they play

825
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: each other. They're on the same literally, on the same

826
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: playing field.

827
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 5: Alana Homer organizations are not the same.

828
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 3: They're just not Rocky Rockney sim Okay, all right, we're back,

829
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: and I do want to bring in Alana for this

830
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 3: one if we can. Michael Grove with season ending surgery

831
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: right labor repair. Sounds like it's been a problem obviously

832
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: since last year. The off season didn't work. I mean, Alana,

833
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: not a lot of people know about him yet nationally Obviously,

834
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure the Dodgers are going to be okay without him,

835
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: But how's this loss for them? Just takes an arm

836
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 3: obviously off the roster for the year. But is this

837
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 3: a big deal loss or it's like, Okay, he wasn't

838
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: going to be a big factor for this team.

839
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: No.

840
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 6: I think, first of all, I feel bad for the player.

841
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 6: I mean, this is a guy that did have opportunities

842
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 6: to pitch for the Dodgers last year because, as we know,

843
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 6: they were decimated by injury and they were using every

844
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 6: single arm that they could possibly get. I think obviously

845
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 6: the depth going into the season this year Scotti is

846
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 6: a lot better for the Dodgers, not only from the

847
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 6: starting staff, but just all the way up and down

848
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 6: the roster. This is the best I've felt about a

849
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 6: Dodger's bullpen in a really long time. We were in

850
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 6: the clubhouse. This morning, we saw Michael Grove and that

851
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 6: sling and AJ was pointing out he stills like the

852
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 6: writing on his arm. As far as the surgery is concerned,

853
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 6: but you look at the Dodgers' bullpen guys, and I

854
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 6: know we're talking about Michael Grove, but you look at

855
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 6: the Dodgers bullpen and you see the lockers when we

856
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 6: were in there today and it was like, you know,

857
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 6: Kirby Yates, Tanner, Scott, Michael Kopek, all the you know,

858
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 6: all these different guys, and you're like, this is a

859
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 6: pretty freaking good bullpen. But as far as Michael Grove

860
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 6: is concerned, yeah, I mean, this is a guy that

861
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 6: I think, you know, had the potential of pitching some

862
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 6: some beginnings for the Dodgers. Do they need him as

863
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 6: much this year as they did last year?

864
00:38:59,400 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: No?

865
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 6: But uh, I mean this is a team that you know,

866
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 6: really utilizes their guys in the best way possible to

867
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 6: kind of finaggle the non traditional way of pitching. Now

868
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 6: and it sucks for him he's done for the year.

869
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 6: But as far as the big picture is concerned, let's

870
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 6: just say that the Dodgers can can survive this A

871
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 6: lot more than I think the Yankees can can survive

872
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 6: missing a Garrett Cole obviously at a Louis Hill.

873
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dodgers prepared themselves for losses like this. The

874
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 3: Tigers made a little signing that's more for next year,

875
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: but we like to document anything of note. Jose or

876
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 3: Keaty signs a contract gets the million bucks this year,

877
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: he can make a lot more next year, especially if

878
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: he contribute starts. He's coming back from from with a

879
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: Tommy John or elbow surgery. There, it is all the details. Yeah,

880
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: Tommy John. It was June fifth for Katie, who's a

881
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 3: nice part of the Astros for rotation for several years,

882
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 3: and Cody Stavenhagen. Tiger Territory hosts at club option for

883
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: next year also contains performance bonuses on top of the

884
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: form million bucks. If they do decide to have him

885
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 3: for the twenty twenty six run, he gets one hundred

886
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: and fifty grand each for four and seven games started,

887
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: three hundred K when he hits ten starts, then another

888
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 3: three hundred for thirteen, sixteen, nineteen, then five hundred K

889
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 3: he gets to twenty two starts, twenty five starts and

890
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 3: twenty eight starts nice crats. I mean, it's probably the

891
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: only time we're going to talk about it, but good idea.

892
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he's been a solid pitcher. He could come

893
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: back and be a mid rotation or back of rotation starter,

894
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 3: depending on what that rotation looks like.

895
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: A completely incentive Leyden pitcher for two years from now

896
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: that you're paying a million dollars to rehab that has

897
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 2: a career under four era, has pitched in some huge

898
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 2: games in the playoffs. I think the Tigers just keep

899
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: making these little ads, these little ads. Obviously, the chance

900
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: of him helping this year are remote, you know, maybe

901
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: like September type of thing. But you sit there and

902
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 2: you go the Tigers are just slowly moving in this direction.

903
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: We don't I don't feel like the Tigers were doing

904
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: this before. Some success last year makes them think, okay,

905
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: you know, they get a little taste. They want more,

906
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: and they want to continue to have more because they

907
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: have a young they have a young core that if

908
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: they're successful, we'll be there for a little while.

909
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: That's right. And that includes Jackson job who, by the way,

910
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: I had the quote of the weekend talking about how

911
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: he's not going to just dance around anymore with his stuff.

912
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: He said, quote, I'm done with trying to do a

913
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: dot a NAT's ass. Just here's my stuff. If you

914
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 3: hit it, good, odds are probably not baller quote.

915
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: I mean the thing is, at such a young age

916
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: he was able to do that. You know, you think

917
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 2: about young pitchers Andrew Paynter over at the Phillies. Two

918
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: guys have elite arms that throw, that can throw strikes

919
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 2: and know where it's going. Now he's got that little

920
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,479
Speaker 2: like f you mentality, He sh.

921
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: All right, let's get the weeds here. The Rays are

922
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: owned by schu Sternberg for many years. They are battling

923
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: with the Saint Pete city officials right now to figure

924
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: out their stadium situation. It was delayed. They want Saint

925
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Pete to take on more of the money. Saint Pete's like,

926
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 3: do you even have the money? Stue. And now this

927
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: story comes out last night from Evandrelik and the Athletic

928
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: aj MLB and other owners are going to kind of

929
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 3: try and push him out. You can't officially do that.

930
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: It sounds like they're going to have a nice heavyweight

931
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 3: fight against him. But what do you think of all this?

932
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 3: They can threaten revenue sharing money. Eventually the Rays get

933
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: about sixty million bucks a year, and they've got that

934
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: March thirty first deadline. The Rays do to have the

935
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: money that they need to contribute to this new ballpark

936
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: one point three billion dollars. Price is rising because it's

937
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 3: been delayed and the Rays have to come up with

938
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: a lot of cash that I don't know if they

939
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: necessarily have. So what's the deal here?

940
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 4: That's a great question. It's going to be interesting to see.

941
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 4: I've never heard of the owners forcing anyone to sell,

942
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 4: and like it's like, oh wait, this is big news.

943
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 4: Now there's a bunch of groups lining up, I guess

944
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 4: to try to buy this team. I know, you know

945
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 4: in Orlando we've kind of talked about this, but there's

946
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 4: some people in Orlando they like to get and how

947
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 4: you're hearing about people in Tampa that would like to

948
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: get it. The main question for me is will they

949
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: be able to get a stadium in Tampa because Sternberg

950
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: is not going to go quietly. He's gonna he's gonna

951
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 4: want to fight this. He's not just going to sell.

952
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: Now.

953
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: If someone gets to a price Loana, that's like outrageous.

954
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

955
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 6: I'm always wondering when ownership groups or teams say we

956
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 6: don't have the money to do this, you do.

957
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 5: You do have the money.

958
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 6: Maybe you don't want to buy an entire stadium, but

959
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 6: you've got to continue to put a with.

960
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 4: A seven hundred and fifty million or whatever he has

961
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: to come up with. Is a regal No, it's it's.

962
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 5: It's it's expensive. I understand that. But you're also making

963
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 5: a boatload of cash too.

964
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 4: Hey, I listen, we sell the time. The owners aren't

965
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: poor on here, No, but they cry poor, but they're

966
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: not poor. So I think, I don't know. It's going

967
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 4: to be interesting to see what happens on March thirty first,

968
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: because the things that can have it is they can

969
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 4: not have the money, and then they're the same pete

970
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 4: thing goes away, or they can put an extension on it,

971
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 4: and they can give a thirty day sixty ninety day extension.

972
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: Sturnberg has tried to raise the money. I don't know.

973
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 4: I don't know. Listen, I'm not in this, but I'm

974
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: you know, I've talked to a bunch of people about this.

975
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 4: Does he have the money? Nobody's really sure that he

976
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: has the money.

977
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 6: Could happen to the Rays is to build a stadium

978
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 6: the size of stein Brennerfield and put a roof on it.

979
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 6: Because they don't sell out their.

980
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 4: Stadium, well you gotta go. You gotta have thirty thousand people.

981
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 5: Though they don't fill it out.

982
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 4: They wouldn't they would if they moved east East East

983
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 4: Tampa Orlando ish area. There's there's just you can draw from.

984
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 4: I don't know how many times you've been to Saint Pete,

985
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 4: probably never, because you know, Dodgers don't go there often

986
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: mean to. It's not easy to get to and it's

987
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 4: just not fun to go to. They need to have

988
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: a yeah, but they used to have nothing. They need

989
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: to have it so on sunny days they can play

990
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: outside and then they can close it.

991
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 5: It's gonna work.

992
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 6: By the way, Tampa playing at Steinbrennerfield and the middle.

993
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 4: Of July quote Freddie can't walk slower, so you can't

994
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 4: walk any.

995
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: Exactly. Matt Silverman's the team president of the race, and

996
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: he said, quote it's not a question of whether we

997
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 3: have the funds. We do. The question is whether it's

998
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: a good use of those funds to commit us in

999
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: MLB to this ballpark for the next thirty years. You

1000
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: guys made the deal. They also made the deal. And

1001
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: if they're gonna act like, oh, I don't know if

1002
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: this is the right thing, well, then why are you

1003
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: doing another deal in Saint Pete when everyone else thinks

1004
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: that you should be in Tampa. We're obviously like AJ

1005
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: and even me. Maybe try out a different spot like Orlando.

1006
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 3: Tampa will definitely do better. There is a stigma about

1007
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: crossing over the causeway, So okay, thoughts krats on why

1008
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: the Rais are being attacked so much when the A's

1009
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: were allowed to just dance around for a couple decades

1010
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 3: and then eventually move to another city. They don't want

1011
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: them to relocate, okay, because that takes leverage away from

1012
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: a city that right now they need. Right they need

1013
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: at least a couple cities involved in e bid the

1014
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: East the East portion of the country bid, the West

1015
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: course portion of the country bid to make sure that

1016
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: they get the two point something billion dollars when expansion

1017
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 3: teams pop up. But technically they cannot force the Ray's

1018
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: owner to sell, and he's going to be tough here.

1019
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: He bought the team for two hundred Milli. In two

1020
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 3: thousand and four, Forbes values the team at one point

1021
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: twenty five bill. That doesn't mean he has to sell

1022
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 3: them just because they're going to go after him, but

1023
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: revenue sharing is a big deal, and if they do

1024
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: eventually strip sixty million year from the Rays, it is

1025
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: going to certainly put them in a tough spot.

1026
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: Good for the owners for doing this, Good for the

1027
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 2: owners standing up to not necessarily like Okay, we're pushing

1028
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: them out. But you have to set limits. You have

1029
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: to set limits because they saw what kind of happened

1030
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: with Oaklynn, like, hey, it's time, like you have the

1031
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: opportunity to get this stadium thing finished or we're gonna

1032
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: move on. To me, I'm always the one that wants

1033
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: to know what it's like to be in on the

1034
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: those meetings. I want to know if they're like, yeah,

1035
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: you know, you really got to move on. And then

1036
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: John Fisher's in the background, He's like, yeah, tell them, guys,

1037
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 2: like tell tell them what he needs to hear, and

1038
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: it's like John, zip it. We like you like, don't

1039
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 2: speak up here.

1040
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do need to figure this out, because you know,

1041
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 3: Manford before he retires, wants to have the expansion plan

1042
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: in place, and we did think that Saint Pete and

1043
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: the Rays had a deal. And part of the fight

1044
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 3: here is that the hurricane caused delays to the process,

1045
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: which then causes delays to the construction, and the Rays

1046
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: want Saint Pete to pay at least a portion of

1047
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: the delays, and Saint Pete's like, we are not budging

1048
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: after this. We've seen standoffs for twenty years with two teams,

1049
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 3: so they will stand off. But I don't think Saint

1050
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: Pete's given in on this one. I think they have

1051
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: very much held their ground and said, we already did

1052
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 3: a deal. This is what we commit. The rest is

1053
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: on you. So we're gonna learn a lot in the

1054
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: next few weeks about this. But anyway, up there

1055
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: And they up there, and they up their amount too

1056
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: on some different politicians, and Saint Pete up there a mountain,

1057
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: that's right,