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Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: app Much to do this hour, Chris Adler is going

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Speaker 2: to come on from CAFI News after three point thirty

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Speaker 2: because things are bubbling up again at UCLA.

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Speaker 1: She's on that beat.

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Speaker 2: We're going to tell you about the hand to hand

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Speaker 2: they actually had a program to ready themselves for combat.

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Speaker 2: And we also have some other documents here about the

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Speaker 2: UCLA Palestine Solidarity Group and the things they're asked, the

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Speaker 2: donations they're asking for. They they're the medical, food, and

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Speaker 2: other logistical needs that they have. So we're going to

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Speaker 2: go through that list to give you an idea of

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Speaker 2: how organized they are and how they want to dig

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Speaker 2: into the long haul with supplies and obviously they're getting

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Speaker 1: Let's go now to ABC News.

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Speaker 2: Corresponded Peter Harlambus, and he has been covering the Trump

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Speaker 2: trial and the judge of the case, Juan Marchon, has

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Speaker 2: Warren Trump he might go to jail if what Peter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Donald Trump at this point has been indicted

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Speaker 3: four times over the last year. We never really saw

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Speaker 3: the possibility of Trump being behind bars before the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four election. That kind of changed yesterday when Judge

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Speaker 3: Van Marshon issued this ruling about the gag order in

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's criminal case here in New York. Rashon find

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump at the time nine thousand dollars for nine

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Speaker 3: different violations of the cases limited gag order. But notably

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Speaker 3: in his ruling, he warned Trump that if you were

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Speaker 3: to violate the case's gag order again, the former president

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Speaker 3: could be in parserrated for it. We know that Secret

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Speaker 3: Service officials here in New York have discussed that possibility.

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Speaker 3: The logistics of locking up Donald Trump, according sources familiar

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Speaker 3: with the matter, and the ball is kind of in

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's court at the moment to see whether or

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Speaker 3: not his rhetoric will change or if you will continue

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Speaker 3: making statements about witnesses or the jurors in the case.

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Speaker 2: Was there any reaction from Trump of the defense team.

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Speaker 2: Did they say okay, okay, we get it.

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Speaker 3: So we didn't see any clear acknowledgment of the gagwader

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Speaker 3: Rulin coming down, though, Trump continued to rail against the

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Speaker 3: judge in the case. Judges, Trump has made an effort

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Speaker 3: to have the judge accused, arguing that he's conflicted because

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Speaker 3: of the political work of his daughter. Coincidentally, Trump lost

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Speaker 3: his appeal on that front related to the recusal yesterday,

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Speaker 3: So with kind of that double whammy of legal issues,

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Speaker 3: Trump argued that the judges bias conflicted immediately should be recused,

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Speaker 3: though there's no indication that Trump has any legal recourse

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Speaker 2: Well, well, it seems like Trump's method here is just

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Speaker 2: to create as much much of a ruckus as possible,

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Speaker 2: whether it goes anywhere with the judge or goes anywhere

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Speaker 2: on appeals is really almost beside the point. He just

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Speaker 2: wants to make the whole process as difficult as possible

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Speaker 3: That sounds about right if you have the prosecutors in

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Speaker 3: the case. I mean, they said explicitly during hearing last

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Speaker 3: Trump seems to be angling for it. Trump himself has

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Speaker 3: compared himself to a modern day now Samandela. When it

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Speaker 3: comes to this gag order, and notably in terms of

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Speaker 3: the actual proceedings, Trump's lawyers are refusing to do some

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Speaker 3: basic tasks during the trial itself. For example, prosecutors usually

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Speaker 3: that evidence is real. Basically, you can sign a document,

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Speaker 3: Trump's lawyers are refusing to do that. It looks like

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Speaker 3: we're going to have to call in about a dozen

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Speaker 3: least a few more days. It seems like commotion and

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Speaker 2: Normally, both sides agree what is obvious evidence.

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Speaker 3: Just basically yeah, And in this case, yesterday we had

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Speaker 3: an archivist from c SPAN who confirmed that Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: it seems like this trial is dragging gone in a

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Speaker 3: lot of different ways, not only with this commotion by

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Speaker 2: You may not know this, but are is there any

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Speaker 2: legal chatter going on among the lawyers and analysts about

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Speaker 2: how far they think the judge Marchon can be pushed

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Speaker 2: because Trump is obviously Trump calculates people's weaknesses all the

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Speaker 2: analyzing Merchon to see how much he can get away with.

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Speaker 2: Is there any sense of a people who knew Merchon,

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Speaker 2: other lawyers perhaps on how much Murchon would put up with,

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Speaker 2: because that's going to be a drastic step if he

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Speaker 3: So legally speaking, there's no limit on pretty much what

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Speaker 3: Trump can say about Mershon. The gag order doesn't place

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Speaker 3: any prohibition on statements about Mershon. But I guess in

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Speaker 3: researching Trump in Mersham, the judge overseeing this case, I

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Speaker 3: guess it's important to note his background. Mishan, in his

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Speaker 3: spare time on Wednesdays when court isn't sitting, oversees a

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Speaker 3: of for alternatives to incarceration, basically, and over the course

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Speaker 3: of interviewing a bunch of friends and colleagues Rashon, they

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Speaker 3: kind of suggested to me that Mirshan is in a

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Speaker 3: These folks I spoke with suggested that that prepares Michon

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Speaker 3: up late on multiple occasions. Yesterday, Trump scolded, sorry, Mishan scolded.

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Speaker 3: Trump's defense attorney after one occasion, and he kind of

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Speaker 3: seems as though Mirshon is somewhat prepared, at least for

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Peter har Alambus with the ABC News. He's an investigative reporter.

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Speaker 2: He's on the Trump trial beat. What we come back?

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Speaker 2: How about the hand to hand combat classes that the

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Speaker 2: pro Hamas protesters took at UCLA. And we're going to

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Speaker 2: there's anything bubbling up again? Wait till you hear their programming.

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Speaker 2: I have their programming sheet here. The protesters they're getting

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Speaker 2: prepared for well, I guess they weren't to all that

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Speaker 2: But we'll go through their list of supplies that they

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Speaker 2: are demanding, the donations that they want for their encampment.

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Speaker 2: And you have the use the president of the UC

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Speaker 2: this all happen last night all coming up.

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Speaker 2: video that Blake Trully took of all the mayhem at

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Speaker 1: All right, this is almost comical.

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Speaker 2: The pro Hamas protesters at UCLA had hand to hand

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Speaker 2: being blocked. The organizers at the UCLA Palestine's Solidarity Encampment,

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Speaker 2: Protesters gathered in a circle and there's a group in

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Speaker 2: Protesters were equipped with hard hats and trash cans that

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Speaker 2: Their programming, that's what they call it. April thirtieth program.

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Speaker 2: this is so jimboree, like a reading circle strategy for

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Speaker 2: the liberation of Palestine. Why don't these stupid bastards go

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Speaker 1: What are they doing here? What a bunch of cowards?

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Speaker 2: All these pales Didian protesters are our play aft like

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Speaker 2: None of these people really want to help the cause.

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Speaker 2: local people. Six to eight o'clock is dinnertime. That's a

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Speaker 2: This is a good racket, all right. Then six thirty

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know they did that anymore.

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Speaker 2: First of all, they're all wearing masks and heads go.

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Speaker 2: Not that it stops COVID to where knows, But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Therapists led a grieving and processing and then from ten

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Speaker 5: Why aren't we grieving about all those hostages that are

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Speaker 2: I'm sure the grieving about all the Israeli babies who

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Speaker 2: Now here's the list of needs according to the Palestine

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Speaker 1: That have their standards.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is urgent. They need headlamps, airsoft goggles. They

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Speaker 2: Oh the food that they want. They want hot food

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess they're all allergic. They also want sleeping pads, batteries, rope.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're planning on I don't not protesting when it's hot.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have Chris Adler from CAFI News at UCLA

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM.

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Speaker 2: four o'clock. The La Times has just published within the

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Speaker 5: Chris, Hey, John, So, yeah, I'm at UCLA right now,

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Speaker 5: And then they walked off and were talking about what

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Speaker 2: And how many students or protesters do they think are

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Speaker 5: Well, they're walking in and out of the library, so

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Speaker 1: So how many camps are on the car There.

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Speaker 5: Are at least fifty tents that are Yeah, right outside

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Speaker 5: the police are getting closer to this camp. I was

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Speaker 1: They weren't.

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Speaker 5: They weren't breaking it down, John, They were actually reinforcing it.

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Speaker 5: They said, we have new rules now, and he was saying,

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Speaker 2: I understand this right, the fifty tents that comprise this

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Speaker 2: By UCLA, Okay, so why is it still there? And

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Speaker 5: They're standing around. Police won't answer, they won't tell us,

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Speaker 5: they're just kind of you know, I'm watching as LAPD's

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Speaker 2: I guess what I don't understand here at UCLA and

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Speaker 1: In real time.

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Speaker 2: As soon as the first two tents pop up, it's like, no, guys,

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Speaker 2: They let it fester sometimes for weeks, and then it

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Speaker 2: You know, you let one tent in your neighborhood, you're

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Speaker 5: Well. UCLA has gone on record and said that they

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Speaker 5: They don't understand why the university didn't take action before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no constitutional right to pitch a tent.

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Speaker 5: Well, this is a public campus, and so the university,

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Speaker 5: But like I said, we're watching police come in here,

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Speaker 5: They will not respond. We're just trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: Campus, they should break it up. Are Chris Adler excellent?

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Speaker 2: The Eelsigunda Times has put together uh has explained how

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI A sixty.

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Speaker 2: In the last hour, LA Times published a timeline of

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Speaker 2: how the hell this happened. All right, so I'm going

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Speaker 2: remember you had a group of Israeli supporters swarming in

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Speaker 2: to UCLA late last night attacking the Palestinian encampment, and

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Speaker 2: law enforcement sources told The Times there were only a

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Speaker 2: few UCLA police officers on hand. How stupid is that

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Speaker 2: for the UCLA administration, the Chancellor Gene block Head. They

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Speaker 2: tried to stop the violence, but they were completely overmatched

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Speaker 2: and they had to retreat because they got attacked themselves. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so the UCLA police campus police are out of the picture.

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Speaker 2: There was a group of unarmed private security guards. Again

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Speaker 2: with the unarmed gee were they ambassadors? But the guards

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Speaker 2: were supposed to protect the buildings, not break up fights

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Speaker 2: or make arrests, so they weren't of any use. It

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Speaker 2: would take three hours for CHP officers and LAPD and

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Speaker 2: other agencies to finally show up and bring it under control,

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Speaker 2: and everybody's going, what the hell. A spokeshole for Newsom

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Speaker 2: says the limited and delayed campus law enforcement response at

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Speaker 2: UCLA last night was unacceptable and demands answers. Wow, even

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Speaker 2: Newsom's pissed. The UC president now this again. President of

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Speaker 2: the whole UC system, Michael Drake wrote a letter to

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Speaker 2: the Board of Regents saying that somebody's got to explain here.

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Speaker 2: There is sufficient confusion. I'm ordering an independent review of

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Speaker 2: useulea's planning in action. They didn't plan and there we

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Speaker 2: wasn't any action. You know, if this guy Drake gets

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Speaker 2: a response, he's going to get a blank sheet of paper.

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Speaker 2: UCLA had no plans to do anything. They were in

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Speaker 2: the tank for the Hamas supporters. It says here at

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Speaker 2: USC the encampment students were arrested en masked by LAPD

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Speaker 2: at UCLA, they could protest all day and night and

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Speaker 2: nobody in law enforcement would bother them, even when on

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Speaker 2: Sunday when some pro israel protesters showed up and there

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Speaker 2: were some scuffling, the uniformed response was minimal. Then Tuesday night,

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Speaker 2: that's when a larger group of Israeli protesters counter protesters

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Speaker 2: came in, and one professor of Jewish history at UCLA

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Speaker 2: is David Myers. He says, there needs to be consequences,

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Speaker 2: there needs to be changes.

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Speaker 1: It's a total system failure.

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Speaker 2: We need to look our selves in the eye and say,

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Speaker 2: how the hell did this happen. Well, it's because the

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Speaker 2: administrators side with these Palestinian terrorists.

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Speaker 1: That's why. I mean, it's not that complicated.

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Speaker 2: Their sympathies lie with the Palestinian protesters who are supporting

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Speaker 2: the terrorists.

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Speaker 1: That's the beginning and end of this.

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Speaker 2: The violence began around ten thirty when the counter protesters arrived.

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Speaker 2: People inside the encampment, the Palestinians began asking for help.

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Speaker 2: Notice I'm not describing anybody as being an American. I

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Speaker 2: don't know where. I don't even those people are citizens.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where they came from. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if they're here in student visas. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: they came here illegally. I don't know what their allegiance is,

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Speaker 2: although I have a feeling it's not to the US.

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Speaker 2: The counter protesters they had their own masks, black and white,

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Speaker 2: and they tried to break down the barricades, and they

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Speaker 2: started shooting fireworks at the Palestinians and kicking down the

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Speaker 2: wooden boards around the camp.

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Speaker 1: See, you set up an encampment and you.

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Speaker 2: Reinforce it with wooden boards and gates, you're just asking

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Speaker 2: for the enemy to come in and tear it down again.

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Speaker 2: UCLA created this problem because they're stupid. John Thomas is

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Speaker 2: the chief of the Ucla Police Department. He didn't respond

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Speaker 2: to a comment with The Times, but he told the

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Speaker 2: Daily Bruin paper that his officers came under attack and

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Speaker 2: he only had five or six, some say only four.

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Speaker 2: LA Times courts a deputy sheriff in Modoc County who's

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Speaker 2: an advisor, that this is essentially a private matter. It's

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Speaker 2: UCLA's campus. It's the school's decision to call a LAPD,

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Speaker 2: even though UCLA is on state land. It's also an independent.

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Speaker 2: It's like its own independent entity, its own town. So

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Speaker 2: outside police forces do not enter the campus without approval.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that UCLA is treated as if it's

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Speaker 2: Beverly Hills. And it took till three in the morning

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Speaker 2: till the police operation was fully complete. Law enforce and

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Speaker 2: didn't even start showing up till after one thirty. And

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Speaker 2: it took an hour and a half to get up

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Speaker 2: to speed. And now Geene Block, the chancellor said that

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Speaker 2: the incident is a dark chapter in our A dark

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Speaker 2: chapter in our campus is history. Well, what were you

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Speaker 2: doing all evening? What were you doing? Yes, Conway's here,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a darker chapter in UCLA's history. Their

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Speaker 2: football team. All right, the earth quake today, do you

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Speaker 2: feel it? You know, Debora and I were in here

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Speaker 2: talking and we didn't notice it. Really, Yeah, everybody else did.

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Speaker 6: Well, this building is on rollers and and so you're

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Speaker 6: not going to feel anything in this building. You're going

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Speaker 6: to watch Burbank get wiped out while you're sitting in

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Speaker 6: this building. We roll up and back like on skates,

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Speaker 6: and this building will end up in Silmar. But you'll

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Speaker 6: be fine. Right, We have ted Ziggenbush coming on today

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Speaker 6: talked about the Kentucky Derby. You gotta get a hit,

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Speaker 6: we gotta. I need the release for Saturday. I need

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Speaker 6: the hit, I need the winner. And then remember last

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Speaker 6: night the Dodgers had a two hour delay because of

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Speaker 6: the bees. Yes, we got the guy on coming on

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Speaker 6: today that took that bee hive down. He did it

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Speaker 6: quickly to unbelievable. Yeah, guy walks in there in front

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Speaker 6: of forty thousand or four thousand people in Arizona. What

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Speaker 6: did he vacuum him? I think he vacuumed him? And

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Speaker 6: he doesn't there's a new age way to do it.

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Speaker 6: You convince him to fly elsewhere. It's not weird. Could

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Speaker 6: he work that magic on the protesters?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: And then we've been talking about this in the hallway

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Speaker 6: and I've been voted to ask you, and we didn't

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Speaker 6: want to do it off the air because we're all uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: But how much do you make a year here? How

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Speaker 1: much do I make a year? Yeah, we're all wondering.

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Speaker 1: Who's wondering?

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Speaker 3: The guys.

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Speaker 1: No, they don't care. The guys, they're not going to

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Speaker 1: get any of it.

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Speaker 6: I told you, Fellas Bellio's wondering.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't matter. They're not getting You're not getting anything. Okay,

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Speaker 2: look at it, Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Don't blame me. Just the messenger message. They wanted to

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Speaker 1: know how much are you making.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this I make I make so little money

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Speaker 6: and or I have so little money that I got this.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can see that this business

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Speaker 1: card on my car. Yeah, you see what it says,

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Speaker 1: we'd buy used and junk cars.

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Speaker 6: And I drove up and down my street to see

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Speaker 6: if anyone else got one.

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Speaker 1: Not a single one.

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Speaker 6: I got that card on my on my windsheld yesterday,

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Speaker 6: and I drove up and down the street looking at

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Speaker 6: other cars. Nobody else got one. And John, this is KFI.

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Speaker 6: This is the biggest talk station in the country. And

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Speaker 6: I'm driving around a car where a guy thinks it's

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Speaker 6: such a piece of crap he's gonna leave his business card.

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Speaker 1: Saying he buys junk cars on my feel a want

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Speaker 1: full of junk cars. That's right, Say hey, right, it

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Speaker 1: must be down and out. Let me buy your car.

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Speaker 1: Check to see if you were living inside. That's right,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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