1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I was told over the weekend that the 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Niners kept their pick a secret in large part because 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 1: they didn't want the rest of the teams that they 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: would be playing this first year to restock their defense 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: to stop Trey Lance. And I went, what, like, that's 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: a lot of thought going in there, because you know, 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: when you face the Niners, you're not used to facing 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: somebody who can beat you with their legs. And I went, okay, 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: so you're gonna not tell anybody? And did they ever 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: consider mac Jones or did they consider him? And then 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they fell in love with Trey Lance. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: Let's bring in Peter King, NBC Sports dot Com columnist, 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: of course, the great column that you can read every 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: Monday morning, Football Morning in America. Pete, good morning. How's morale? 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Morale is? Find? The draft is over? The long national 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: nightmare of hype for two months over a seven round 18 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: event is over. And so it's always a happy day 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: to Monday after the Draft in the Kinghouse. Yeah, I 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: know that you're so deeply involved in it, but you know, 21 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: for the outsider looking in, I mean, it's still it 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: gives hope to everybody. And that's that's which great. What 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: sporting event gives hope quite like the draft does that. 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: We're talking about Jacksonville, we're talking about the Jets, we're 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: talking about the Lions, the Bengals. That's all you ask 26 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: for is hope. I went to Jacksonville on Friday, Dan 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: and I watched Trevor Lawrence get limowed into the stadium 28 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: with a crew of third graders. They're holding signs and 29 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: screaming for Trevor Lawrence like it was a crowd at 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: LaGuardia Airport or whatever it was called when the Beatles 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: came in or JFK. And it was just cute and fun. 32 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: And you know, Sean Connie's worth eight billion dollars, he's 33 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: seventy years old, and he was jittery and nervous. He's 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: just like a little kid, and so that's fun. I 35 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: really really do enjoy that part of it. I just 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: think it's it's just unbelievable what it's become. Kyle Shanahan's 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: told me over the weekend, he goes, he goes, It's 38 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: just it was unbelievable to sit back and watch this, honestly, 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: with everybody in the world screaming at us for taking 40 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: mac Jones, and we were gonna take him, and we 41 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: just couldn't say anything. So anyway, Yeah, it was a weird, 42 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: a weird draft process. But do you think it started 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: because of the speculation of what kind of quarterback Kyle 44 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: Shanahan wanted and the people who were speculating know the 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: Shanahan Adam Scheff's friends with the Shanahans. Chris Simms is 46 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: great friends with Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, I mean he was 47 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: a college teammate at the University of Texas. So I think, 48 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's a total, absolutely understandable storm because understand 49 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: one thing did this is from thirty five minutes on 50 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: the phone with Kyle Shanahan this weekend. I can tell 51 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: you categorically that they very seriously considered Mac Jones, and 52 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I would not have been shocked after listening to Kyle 53 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Shanahan talk about how much he loved mac Jones. If 54 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: three days before the draft he said to John Lynch, Hey, 55 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: are we sure you know we love Mac Jones. But 56 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: but I do think there is this element of twenty 57 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: twenty one football and beyond that really drew them to 58 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: Trey Lance and the element of making the sort of 59 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: off schedule plays and the simple fact did I As 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: I said my column, there's two minutes and thirty seven 61 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: seconds in my column today that anybody who really likes 62 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: football and it wants to know why did forty nine 63 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: ers pick Trey Lance. Kyle Shanahan explains it in perfect, 64 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: almost excruciating detail about the process he went through and 65 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: what he did, and I just let him go, and 66 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: I think he understood exactly what he wanted and he 67 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: came to grips with the fact that he loved Mac 68 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: Jones's accuracy. Loved it. He's most accurate, had the most 69 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: accurate season in the history of major college football this year. 70 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, he 71 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: was happy enough with Trey Lance's accuracy and loved all 72 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: the other parts potentially of his game that Trey Lance brought. 73 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: He's Peter King. The column is Football Morning in America, 74 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: NBC Sports dot Com. Give me the teams that feel 75 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: like they really changed this weekend. I think the New 76 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: York Jets feel like they changed. They added so many 77 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: good offensive pieces and again, look, they've been rafting quarterbacks 78 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: forever since Namath left, and quite honestly, no one knows 79 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 1: if he's going to be Broadway Zach or not. But 80 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: they drafted guys who they can see tomorrow are going 81 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: to give Zach Wilson a real chance. And I think 82 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: the biggest one they drafted was a fourth round running 83 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: back named Michael Carter, who I think everybody in New 84 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: York feels like easily could be a starting player there 85 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: very soon. I think the two other teams that did 86 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: really well, like in their own eyes, I think the 87 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions getting the best tackle in this draft to 88 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: do what Dan Campbell wants so badly, not bite kneecaps, 89 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: but to control the line of scrimmage and to be 90 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: a leader and to like being in Detroit, which not 91 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: all players do, but he was just so enthusiastic think 92 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: about it, and I think they had a good draft 93 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: through and through. The other team is the Miami Dolphins 94 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: because I think Jaalen Waddle. First of all, there's so 95 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: many good explosive players in this draft, but the thing 96 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: that Jaylen Waddle gives you is the ability maybe to 97 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: have drafted a very good wide receiver. Plus Devin Hester, 98 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: you know he might be this generation's great returner and 99 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: and I just think those are a few of the 100 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: things when you look at you know, what teams did 101 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: they really changed their teams. Give me the team that 102 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: you don't understand their strategy. Well, I mean, I hate 103 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: to be a cliche, but I just, you know, the 104 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: Raiders picking Alex Leatherwood at seventeen was just a really 105 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: weird pick to me because I think I would be surprised, 106 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: surprised if they weren't able to move down, you know, 107 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: with somebody to get some thing, because I you know, look, 108 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: I did a lot of pre draft work on the 109 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: mock draft and all that, and I just I'm serious, 110 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: I just never heard Alex Leatherwood's name, and so maybe 111 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: maybe somebody would have taken him at twenty or twenty 112 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: one or twenty two. I don't know, but I thought 113 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: that was weird. And unfortunately, because I really like Mike 114 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: Mayock and I think he's he's very very good at 115 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: his job. He's had a couple of high picks bomb 116 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: out or at least not fulfill the promise, you know, 117 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Cleveland Furrell and Damon Arnett so far. And I think 118 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure coming in that Alex Leatherwood 119 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: has got to pretty much play from day one. Why 120 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: do you think Denver shied away from a quarterback in 121 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: the first round. I just don't think there was one 122 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: they loved as much as they thought they should to 123 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: pick one either at seven if they thought they had 124 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: to trade up a little bit, or to pick one 125 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: that high. And I think the other thing is Dan 126 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: Look vic Fangio, and this has nothing to do well. 127 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio's a defensive coach, so of course they're going 128 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: to take Patrick Sir Tam. I think they wanted to 129 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: take a great player at nine, and George Peyton. This 130 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: wasn't about. He could have taken a quarterback at nine 131 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: if he was in love with Justin Fields or mac Jones. 132 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: But clearly by what they did, Denver wasn't really in 133 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: love with one of these quarterbacks and figured that, hey, 134 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: look Drew Locke, Teddy Bridgewater, they'll get us through this year. 135 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: We'll revisit it at the end of the year. Which 136 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy G's status in San Francisco. I honestly think he's 137 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: going to start Opening Day, and you know he might not. 138 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: But I remember talking to John Lynch when the trade happened, 139 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: and one of the things he said is that, look, 140 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: look at what's happened to us in the years that 141 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: we did not get a full season with a really 142 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: good quarterback. You know, look, everybody looks at the forty 143 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: nine Ers is a great franchise, but in three of 144 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: the four years of John John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan, 145 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: they've won six, six and four games. You know, they 146 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: everybody's kind of blinded by the Super Bowl year and 147 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: probably well they should be. Injuries really killed them last year. 148 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: But the fact is they did not want to be 149 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: stuck with only one good quarterback. The only way they 150 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: were trading Jimmy Garoppolo is if they got a one 151 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: Forum this year. And I don't know if New England 152 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: ever offered that second round pick Forum, but that would 153 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: not have been good enough this year for the forty 154 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: nine ers because they believe they're not going to get 155 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: short caught short at the quarterback position again. Texans draft 156 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback, Davis Mills out of Stanford. Is there more 157 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: to this? Guy thinks, I don't care what they say. 158 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you have you're an expansion team. 159 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: The texts the Houston Texans are an expansion team. You 160 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: have one pick in the top eighty of this draft, 161 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: one pick, and you pick a quarterback when you have 162 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback on your roster who is twenty five years old, 163 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: You've just given a jillion dollars too. I mean, look, 164 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, with Nick Kissario saying, oh no, 165 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: this is not about anyone person or whatever his quote was, 166 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's silly. I believe this was the most 167 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: meaningful pick in this draft, at least as far as 168 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm concerned as to what it said about the current roster, 169 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: Which now leads us to Aaron Rodgers. What if you're 170 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: summing up what happened in the last week and where 171 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: we are today Monday morning at nine thirty six Eastern, 172 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: how would you do that? You know, obviously this has 173 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: been in the works for a while. Aaron Rodgers has 174 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: been unhappy. I think it dates the last year, last 175 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: year's draft, where they drafted his successor and evidently now 176 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,119 Speaker 1: evidently did not tell him that they were drafting his successor. 177 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: And so with that being the case, the interesting part 178 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: of this Dan going forward, I think this all just 179 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: didn't happen in the last year. You know, I think 180 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: this is me just simply reading the tea leaves. I've 181 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: not talked to Aaron Rodgers, so I can't say this 182 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: for sure, but in my opinion, Aaron Rodgers has to 183 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: be feeling like, Look, the Packers have been doing business 184 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: the same way since Ron Wolfe took the job thirty 185 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: years ago, and that is general manager picks players, coaches, 186 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: coach players, players play football and that's it. Okay, Like 187 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know this, but I mean, you know, 188 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: would would Brian to Kunster with the coaches ever, like 189 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: call him in and say, hey, you know, what do 190 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: you what do you think? What do you think we 191 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 1: should do? Or what do you think of his practice 192 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: squad player or whatever? And I just don't think that happens. 193 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: And I think he's got some of the same frustration, 194 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: probably as Russell Wilson has. You know, Listen to me. 195 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm out there. I'm the guy who is sort of 196 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: the titular head of this franchise that as I go 197 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: so goes to franchise, talk to me, consider me. And 198 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: it's just not the way the Packers do things. And 199 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that they're going to change Dan, but 200 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: and I'm just telling you, this reminds me so much 201 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: of exactly what happened ten years ago with Carson Palmer. 202 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: He told the Bengals, I'm not playing for you. He 203 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: had played their seven years. I'm not playing for you anymore. 204 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: I'll retire. Yeah, sure, you'll retire. Then he retired, and 205 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders called the Bengals that October after Jason Campbell 206 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: got hurt and said we want to make it trade 207 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: for Carson Palmer, and they did it. And so this 208 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. As you know, Aaron Rodgers is very 209 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: strong willed, and if he feels in any way like 210 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: he's been wrong, I just think he's gonna he's gonna 211 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: hold his ground. And you know when we talked to 212 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: Rogers a couple of weeks ago and I said, take 213 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: me back to that draft night and he said, look, 214 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm watching just like you are, and I find out 215 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: we're drafting a quarterback. I think in a situation like that, Pete, 216 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't think quarterbacks should be involved in drafting because 217 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: they don't know anything about this. But also, you know, 218 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: unless it's Joe Burrow with Jamar Chase and you go, okay, 219 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: I trust your instincts free agency. You played with a 220 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: guy you want to bring in Gronk, Antonio Brown, Tom Brady. 221 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: All right, you know, I'll give that to you. But 222 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: if you're gonna draft a quarterback's replacement, then I think 223 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: you at least have to say. I don't want you 224 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: to be shocked, but right like, that's all. That's a 225 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: courtesy that I think that he has earned in Green Bay. 226 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: He doesn't have to be involved in personnel decisions. But 227 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: when you're drafting your successor and you're sitting there having 228 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: a drink, and all of a sudden, the packers are 229 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: on the clock and they draft your successor, to me, 230 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: that's a slap in the face. I agree with you, 231 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: And if that's exactly the way it happened, I don't 232 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: agree with that. You know, you shouldn't. You shouldn't handle 233 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: things that way. And look deep down, maybe some in 234 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: the packers would say, good, it stuck a little cattle, 235 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: prought up his rear end, and he played. He had 236 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: maybe the best year of his life. He certainly had 237 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: one of them, and he was the MVP. But still, 238 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to motivate people by that that way. 239 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: I think I think you've got to be upfront with 240 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: guys who have been so great and so valuable for 241 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: your franchise. Is Aaron Rodgers the starting quarterback for the 242 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Packers week one? My bet would be no. I mean, 243 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: I don't see it. I just think this is going 244 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: to get particularly ugly. There's not gonna be any media 245 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: people who are going to have any vacation between now 246 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: and Labor Day weekend, sorry everybody. And I just think 247 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: if if at some point, at some point, I think 248 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Green Bays might have to come to the realization that 249 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: they're either going to be playing Jordan Love or if 250 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: they think he's not ready, they got to go find somebody. 251 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: You know, maybe they look, I mean, how in the 252 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: world could this ever happen? But maybe they look three 253 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: hours south and look at Nick Foles. It seems to 254 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: demand without a country in Chicago. And how crazy would 255 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: it be if Nick Foles out duels Andy Dalton earlier 256 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: season and the Bears Packers. Man, I don't know what 257 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: will happen, but but who would be in line for Rogers? 258 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: Like if you you know, Gruden loves any quarterback that's 259 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: not his quarterback, But look, I think Gruden i think 260 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: I think Gruden, I'm and I don't know how they 261 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: could do it. I think Gruden would love to have 262 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers throwing Julio Jones this fall. And again I 263 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: don't know how they can do it or what they 264 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: would do, but I just think, if I'm looking at it, 265 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: I think the Packers would probably consider an AFC team 266 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: because they don't want Aaron Rodgers ruining their dreams until 267 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So, you know, Denver seems to make sense, 268 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: and the Raiders seem to make sense. And obviously there's 269 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of other teams, but if you're Aaron Rodgers, 270 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, and if if you're the Packers, you like 271 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: to find a team who looks at Aaron Rodgers as 272 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: the missing piece to really get us over that hump. 273 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: Those are two teams that really stick out, even though 274 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: you know Carr is certainly not an expendable a totally 275 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: expendable guy. And the other thing you look at Dan 276 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: is what could they trade. I mean, I think getting 277 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: Derek carrback would be pretty good, and maybe the next 278 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: two ones form from Vegas. I don't know how exactly 279 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: they would make a trade like that, but they would 280 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: have to give. I think Derek carr in something pretty significant. Pete, 281 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us as always. Love the shirt Manny's 282 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: pale Ale in Seattle. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's might go 283 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: to when I'm out there, which is not nearly enough, 284 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: not not nearly often enough. I mean, thank you, Pete. Okay, Dan, 285 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: take care. That's Peter King Football Morning in America is 286 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: the column. NBC Sports dot Com. Play of the Day 287 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: is up next here on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks 288 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 289 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine to noon 290 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 291 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 292 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot Com, or stream us live every 293 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching fu are, or 294 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock Act. All right, Seaton, 295 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: give me where the French dip originated from in the 296 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: United States. Do you want to guess? Give it? Give 297 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: us a hint there, I'll get to Mike Heller, very 298 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: popular sports radio host in Madison, Wisconsin. We'll talk about 299 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. All right, so what do you have. It's 300 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: a West coast city, West Coast French Dip, PAULI. I 301 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: know this because two months ago I did National French 302 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Dip Day for the morning meeting. I salrecus myself. Oh 303 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: and we obviously weren't listening when you were doing it 304 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: for usual. Okay, that's fine. Uh McLevin, you know, maybe 305 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: I know this subconsciously. But scene says West Coast is 306 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: at that famous hotel in San Diego's kitchen embedded this 307 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: and I don't remember what it's called. There's San Diego, 308 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: that crrect city. No, it's Los Angeles. Kelly, Wait, we 309 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: didn't get to Yeah. I just figured i'd move it 310 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: along a little bit. Okay, all right, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. 311 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: So but there's two restaurants in Los Angeles that argue 312 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: over who created it Cole's Pacific Electric Buffet. And uh, 313 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: is the name Philippe? Is that Philippe A or Philippe. Well, 314 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: I'm want to say Philippe. It'd be Philippe because it's French. 315 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because it's French. Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there 316 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: you go. So Philippe the original way too much time? Yeah, 317 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: which again French tips Mike Keller, sports radio host The 318 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: Mike Keller Show ten seventy of the game in Madison, 319 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: Wisconsin kind enough to stay with us here, Mike apologize 320 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: for that. Is this personal or is this business for 321 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? Well, I think it's personal for Aaron Rodgers, 322 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: and I think it's business for the Packers, and the 323 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: two aren't mixing together very well. I think that's part 324 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: of the issue with the fan base from a Rodgers perspective, 325 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: is that this got personal. And this is a really 326 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: blue collar fan base. So the fact that it is personal, 327 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: I think it it brought his status down among the 328 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: fan base a little bit that this is this is 329 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: a feelings issue. How did this start? Who started this? 330 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: I think, like Peter King was talking about, it started 331 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: twelve months ago Packers draft Jordan Love. Green Bay didn't 332 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: reach out through Brian Goodacoonster, Matt Lafloor or Mark Murphy, 333 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: the team president to Aaron Rodgers when they're on the 334 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: clock to say hey, a little heads up. That's when 335 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: it began. But I think the field kind of heals everything. 336 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: That was a motivation for Rogers. I think he was 337 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: happy in Green Bay during the season, and I also 338 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: think Dan that when the season ended, his agent they've 339 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: done went to Green Bay said okay, can we dispense 340 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: with the Jordan Love nonsense and just do this, you know, 341 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: extend the contract and have the guarantee in place that 342 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: my client, Aaron Rodgers is going to be here. And 343 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: when the packers said no, that's not how we do business, 344 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: which is another thing that Peter King was talking to 345 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: you about in the last hour, I think that's when 346 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said, Okay, then I don't want to be there. 347 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: We're not going to do business that way. Then I 348 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: don't like Brian goodacoons like the way this is operated, 349 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: and let's move on. But doesn't Aaron know that this 350 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: happened sixteen years ago when he was selected in the 351 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: first round with Brett Farve. Did they give Brett Farve 352 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: a heads up that they were taking Aaron Rodgers? Yeah? 353 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so. And there's a little revisionist history 354 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: because Rogers is turned into a first ballot Hall of 355 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: Famer and a lot of people are dubious as to 356 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: what Jordan Love brings to the table. And there wasn't 357 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: any camp or any exhibition games or anything of that 358 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: ilk to work through last year, so nobody has the 359 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: idea of whether Jordan Love will be great, Dan, I 360 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: really think that the Packers were doing this to take 361 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: one more significant run up the Mountain or one more 362 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: significant fight at the Apple this year, the twenty twenty 363 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: one season, and then to see where they stood and 364 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: if it worked, maybe they go longer. And if it 365 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: didn't work, if they were a first round playoff out, 366 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: or if they didn't make the playoffs, then the transition 367 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: out from a cap standpoint is much more agreeable to 368 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: Green Bay side and the business of football than it 369 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: is in any other way. This was an open secret though, Mike. 370 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: It's strange. I think it was five weeks ago. I 371 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: don't even I've lost track of time. Where I had 372 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: a source say it's laughable to think Aaron Rodgers will 373 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: be there after this upcoming season, and I thought, wow, okay, 374 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: And then you find out that the Rams reached out. 375 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: Uh you know, this was a while ago before they 376 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: were going to go after Matthew Stafford the Niners. You 377 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: reach out, so it was sort of there right in 378 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: front of us. But I'm just wondering, who leak this, 379 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: How did this leak? Could the Packers have leaked this 380 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: to make Aaron Rodgers look petty. Sure, you know that 381 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: there's a fair question there about where the information comes 382 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: out last Thursday, you know. And Aaron says on Saturday 383 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: off camera to Tariko that he's really disappointed that this 384 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: got out. Most people, most fans, I would stay Dan 385 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: believe that this didn't happen by accident, that Aaron Rodgers 386 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: put this out there. But I could see the little 387 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: double secret agent deal where the packers put it out 388 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: there because all of this has made it easier from 389 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: a pr standpoint, from a fan standpoint, if they trade him, 390 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: this is all more tenable from a fan standpoint because 391 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: Aaron got his feelings hurt and that brought him down 392 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: a little bit. So, yeah, I suppose it could have 393 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: come from Green Bay. I don't think so, but I 394 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: don't know that we know. And I don't know if 395 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Shaleene Woodley, who's Aaron's fiance is Yoko Ono, but you know, 396 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: does she want to go to Green Bay. It's like, 397 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: I don't know what role anybody plays here, but it 398 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: just feels like And Peter King said that at the 399 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: end of the segment I did with him, he doesn't 400 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers is there next year, so you know 401 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: what happens next. Yeah, it's I don't know mclovin, do 402 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I wore this shirt in honor 403 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: and mclovin today. I figured he had inside info, but 404 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, the broken glasses t shirt. Yes, mclovin. Yeah, 405 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: my wife is a big Shaleen Woodley fan. That's all 406 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: I have to share with him. There you go, Okay, 407 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: thank you. Well, yeah, I think shale and Woodley certainly 408 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: would be viewed that way, didn't She say on a 409 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: late night show that she didn't think she'd marry a 410 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: guy that threw balls for a living, So I don't 411 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: think she's a big football aficionado. So, you know, women 412 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: make us. Sometimes we're in situations where some men will 413 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: do things they don't necessarily want to do. And the 414 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: reason one of the reasons why I wanted to have 415 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: you on is to get the local fan reaction, because 416 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: I think nationally it's different than locally. I think nationally, 417 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: most of us fans or people in the business say, well, 418 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: the packers brought this on themselves. But then I started 419 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: to get a sense of you know, maybe the packer 420 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: fan is like, well, why would you do this? On 421 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: the day of the draft. It feels like you're being petty, 422 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: you know, just prove them wrong and play again and 423 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: put up another MVP season. And so yeah, there's a 424 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: there's a disconnect here. It feels like nationally and locally, 425 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: Dan I thought a week ago today that the situation 426 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: that he hadn't been extended, hadn't restructured, hadn't moved some 427 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: money around. The fan base was seventy thirty with Rogers. 428 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: They were they thought the organization had mishandled this when 429 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: the information comes out, you know, Thursday through Saturday, the 430 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: stuff that we that we saw, heard and read, I 431 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: think that flipped. I think it's at best fifty fifty 432 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: right now. And I think the organization looked really bad 433 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: a week ago. I don't think the organization looks as 434 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: bad from the fan base standpoint today. And that's really 435 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: just a seventy two hour flip from Thursday to Sunday. 436 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: I'll ask you the same question I posed to Peter King. 437 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: Is Aaron Rodgers the starting quarterback for the Packers week one? 438 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: You know, his best opportunity to win a Super Bowl 439 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: still is in Green Bay. So part of that question 440 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: comes back to where does he sit from a competitive standpoint, 441 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: Maybe it would have been in San Francisco, Dan, but 442 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: when that ship sailed, I really, I really think this 443 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: is at an impass and I don't think he'll be 444 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Part of this depends on whether he 445 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: thinks his best chance to put one more Super Bowl 446 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: trophy in his resume case is in Green Bay. And 447 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: I think it is who's more Who's more beloved? Rogers 448 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: are Farve in Green Bay? Not close. Brett Farve had 449 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: always fit in here, even though he was, you know, 450 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: a Southern boy. He fit in in Wisconsin. You know, 451 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: he ate the cheese, He drank the beer, probably too 452 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: much beer did. He was a Wisconsin guy. He hunts, 453 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: he fished. Aaron has never been beloved as the person now. 454 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: He probably does great things. I know he does in 455 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: a benevolent way. He does great things, but he's never 456 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: fully fit in in Wisconsin. Doesn't drink beer, doesn't eat cheese, 457 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: isn't out at the bars. Farve did all all of 458 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: those things right, So I don't think it's close. Far 459 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: is beloved even with that bad divorce, and Rogers has 460 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: never been loved in the same way. He's a better quarterback. 461 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I think fans recognize that, but he's not been loved 462 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: the same way. I hope Jordan Love is learning how 463 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: to drink beer and eat cheese though. Right, Hey, Mike, 464 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: great to have you on, Thanks for joining us. Thanks Dan. 465 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: That's Mike Keller, very popular radio host in Madison, Wisconsin, 466 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: the Mike Keller Show, ten seventy the Game. That's what 467 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: I think people nationally don't understand locally that Aaron Rodgers. 468 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: They love when he's on the football field, but I 469 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: don't think they identify with him. He's not one of 470 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: them where FARV was, you know, flaws and all. But 471 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: also I wondered if they viewed Aaron as being petty 472 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: through all of this, like just play, you know, win 473 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: another MVP. But I wonder if the Packers could possibly 474 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 1: it is possible, could have leaked this because now all 475 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Rogers, you know, everything credit that he 476 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: built up. Now it starts to you know, chip away 477 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: at that, and he comes off as somebody who's not happy, 478 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: never happy, Like you didn't draft a wide receiver, drafted 479 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: my replacement this year, first round pick defensive back. But 480 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: I just think Green Bay bet On Aaron Rodgers not 481 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: being Aaron Rodgers last year. I think that's all really 482 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: came down to that. They were trying to be smart 483 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: draft Jordan Love, and once again I told you the Colts. 484 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: I was told the Colts were going to draft Jordan 485 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: Love and the Packers had to trade up to get him, 486 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: and then they got him. They didn't know Aaron Rodgers 487 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: was going to throw forty eight touchdowns. I think they 488 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: were thinking he was going to be twenty five, twenty six, 489 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns. Again, make the playoffs, don't do any damage, 490 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: and then they can move on from him. And then 491 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he turns in a season for 492 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 1: the Ages, and now they've created this situation. Jordan Love 493 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: is not ready, but Aaron Rodgers is ready to leave. 494 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: Yami Cluvin, what's incentive for Rogers camp to leak it 495 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: when they did? And you know, maybe it was his 496 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: agent and he didn't have permission, you know how this 497 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: business works, Like how does that come out? It's the 498 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: timing of it, so three hours before the draft, That's 499 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: what I don't understand, and I don't think that's a 500 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: coincidence that all of a sudden the information got out 501 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: on draft night. I really don't. John and Virginia. We'll 502 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: sneak in a best and worst. We'll come back and 503 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: give you hours hourrors as well. Hey John, Hey Dan, 504 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: I just wanted to say my best of the weekend 505 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: was Sean Peyton's prediction or his coming true? I mean, 506 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: two months ago on a show, you asked them what 507 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: quarterback he reminded you of, and he said Ian Book, 508 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: and he said this guy's just a wonder And then 509 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: was he of course he's gonna draft book. He just 510 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: told us he was gonna drafting book. So it happened, Dan, Yeah, 511 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: and I'll bring that back. Thank you, John, Thank you. 512 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: Here is um let me play Sean Payton when he 513 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: was on should I take a break? Here? Can I 514 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: sneak it in here? Here? You wanted to tease it? Dan? 515 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: All right, thank you Steve. Yeah, why don't tease it. 516 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna chease it. This will be better than the 517 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: French dip tease. Yeah, yeah, Sean Payton. We'll talk about 518 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: why drafted the Notre Dame quarterback, Ian Book and more 519 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: phone calls, best and words for the weekend. Reggie Miller 520 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: coming up next hour right after this. Thanks for listening 521 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 522 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 523 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 524 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 525 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. Hey, it's Ben, host 526 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: of The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller, along with my 527 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: trustee sidekick David Gascon. Would meet a lot to have 528 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: you join us at our auditory journey. You're asking, what 529 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: in God's name is the Fifth Hour? I'll tell you 530 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: it's a spin off of that Ben Maller show, Colt 531 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? 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I missed you, Reggie Aloicius 541 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: Miller Junior, the third, the Hall of Famer. Yeah, look 542 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: who's back? How are you doing? Everyone's got to half 543 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: seen music when they've been away from the Theodore Patrick Show. 544 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: So baby, I'm back and baby is somewhere in the 545 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: back room right the new baby. Yeah, baby is back. 546 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: How is the baby doing? The baby is doing great. 547 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: It's funny because everyone's like, where have you been? We've 548 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: missed you on the Dan Patrick's show. I tell people 549 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: number one COVID COVID baby, COVID baby, and I've been 550 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: on a long praternity league. That's all I said. I'm 551 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: coming back. I just got a little an extended praternity 552 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: league from the Theodore Patrick's Show. That's all people, We're 553 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: back together. The family's back together. We were worried that 554 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: you were still going to be at the Wendy's house 555 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: and that that you weren't taking care of your kids. 556 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: So I'm glad that you left the Wendy's house and 557 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 1: you're taking care of the kid. You didn't name your 558 00:32:54,760 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: baby Wendy, right, No you didn't. She is not named Wendy. Okay, No, 559 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm taking care of my kids as all responsible fathers 560 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: do and not only are not in the Windies again, 561 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm not in the Windies in Orlando because the last 562 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: time we spoke through, I was stuck in Orlando in 563 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: the bubble yea. So now I'm back home in California 564 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: working remotely. Still partman and I were still call games remotely. 565 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: I'll be glad once hopefully playoffs start, there'll be a 566 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: little bit more interaction. But we are still working remotely 567 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: for those of you who follow the NBA, but we're 568 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: still having a great time. Are you traveling during the playoffs? 569 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: Do you know yet? We will be traveling to Atlanta 570 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: to call games. Hopefully by the conference finals, which this 571 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: year Turner has the Eastern Conference Finals. Depending on the 572 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: matchup and the two teams, hopefully we will be on site. 573 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: That still remains up in the air. I applaud Turner 574 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: and Media for wanting to keep us safe. We miss 575 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: the interaction with the fans and being there in person, 576 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: but it's always about safety first at Turner and Warner Media, 577 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: so we're taking that approach. Reggie will be on the 578 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: call with Kevin Harlan. That'll be Thursday night, Lakers and 579 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: the Clippers. Let me start with the Lakers here, if 580 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: you were a betting man, the odds of the Lakers 581 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: defending their title going back to the finals is what 582 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: to me. It's all about health, and if Lebron and 583 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: a d are healthy, the Lakers are always the team 584 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: to be. Now, I know Lebron has been back two 585 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: games and they're owing two since he has returned, and 586 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: they just have not looked well. And now I'm hearing 587 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: reports out with Lebron saying whoever came up with this 588 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: playoff format ought to be fired. Where was all this 589 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: talk a month ago, two months ago, when the Lakers, 590 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: when Boston, when Dallas, they were securely one of the 591 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: top six teams. Now they're on the outside, possibly looking in. 592 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: I know Dallas and the Lakers are like five and six, 593 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: with Portland being seven. All three of those teams are tied. 594 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of crying because the whole point 595 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: of the play in was too make sure regular season 596 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: games mattered. So take care of your business during the 597 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: regular season finished one through six, so you can rest 598 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: through your door, rest that week and let those other 599 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: teams battle it out. Lebron goes down, eighty goes down, 600 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: and now they're kind of on a nosedive looking at 601 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: seven through ten. So I don't want to hear all 602 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: the crying if you would have took care of business. Now, 603 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: I know injuries are a part of it, but I 604 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: don't want to hear that. Oh my god, the play 605 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: in one through six, you rest, here's Lebron James talking 606 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: about the play in games, and I don't know if 607 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: he knows that he's taking a shot at the commissioner. Well, 608 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. At the end of the day. If 609 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm not uh, you know, one hundred percent close to 610 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: one hundred percent, I'm out of you know where we're laying, 611 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 1: you know. So you know that's my mindset. And you know, 612 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: if this happens too, we end up at six or 613 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: fifth or whatever the case may be, or if we 614 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: end up in a you know, the playoff, whatever that 615 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 1: thing is, whoever came up with that need to be fired. 616 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: But whatever, Lebron, I get a guess, the commissioner would 617 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,879 Speaker 1: like to talk to you. He's the one that came 618 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: up with the idea, dude. Or he's right because I 619 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: agree with him. If he finishes, if the Lakers finished seven, eight, nine, 620 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: or ten, odds on with Lebron and eighty they're gonna 621 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: win their games. Who I feel sorry for if I'm 622 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: Phoenix or Utah. Yeah, I don't want to see Lebron 623 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: in eighty, possibly in the first round. That's who should 624 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: be upset about this if they happen to fall seven 625 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: through two. And Anthony Davis, since he came back this 626 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: is six games, has really not had an impact, shooting 627 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: under forty percent, averaging sixteen points. Lakers have been outscored 628 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: by fifty six points when he's on the court, the 629 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: worst plus minus on the team almost double of the 630 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: second worst. There. It's not just Lebron, it's a D. 631 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: And as we talked about last year, I said, as 632 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: great as Lebron is, they're not winning a title without 633 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: a D. And I certainly feel that way. But if 634 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 1: you're going to handicap the West because we do this, 635 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: we'll look at Hey, they were a great regular season. Two. 636 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's bought into the Utah Jazz nationally. 637 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: You know, wonderful year Denver. I don't know if anybody's 638 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: bought into them. Phoenix, I don't know if anybody's bought 639 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: into them. Where you go. You know what, if they 640 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: meet with the Lakers, they'll beat him. Now, out of 641 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: those three teams, who has the best if you want 642 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: to throw the Clippers in there too, who has the 643 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: best chance of going to the Western Conference Finals or 644 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: playing in the Championship At the end of the day, 645 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: And again I will stress health, health is of the 646 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: utmost important. Everybody's healthy, Lakers, everyone they will owe to me. 647 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: It will always come down to the Lakers and Clippers, Okay, 648 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: because they've got bona fide superstars on both sides. They've 649 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: got lockdown defense. Again, the Lakers, even though a D 650 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: and Lebron missed so much time, they were still a 651 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: top four defensive team even without those two superstars. At 652 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: the end of the day, Kawai, Paul George ad Lebron, 653 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: they're the two best teams because I've seen their body 654 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: of work in the playoffs sometimes with the Clippers for 655 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: Kawhi in San Antonio, in Toronto, I'm gonna go with 656 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: the Clippers and the Lakers at the end of the day, 657 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: and everyone is healthy, healthy, But again that hasn't been 658 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: the case this year. So the three teams you mentioned, 659 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: feeing It, Utah and Denver. They somewhat scare me because 660 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: I think Denver is playing much better. People are like, well, 661 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: they're going to be without Jamal Murray because of the injury. 662 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: I think they're better defensively now, and yok, it's my 663 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 1: opinion the MVP this year. So Denver is a scary 664 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: team and will be a scary out and on top 665 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: of that, will have home court advantage. You've got to 666 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: go there. All we have been probably into the conference 667 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: finals because one of those two spots will probably be 668 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: Phoenix or Utah that will have home court advantage throughout 669 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 1: the Western Conference. I was wondering, and I try not to, 670 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: you know, delve into the MVP topic normally because I think, 671 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: you know a lot of hosts shows are trolling you 672 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 1: because it's Lebron. If Lebron's involved in the conversation, then 673 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: this is a big deal. Joker winning the MVP. Nobody 674 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: cares nationally about this. Even if it's Joe ellenbe nobody 675 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: cares nationally. If Lebron and James Harden are in it, 676 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: then you can at least have an arguing point. Chris 677 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: Paul to me, in true value to a team, not 678 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: the best player, but true value to a team. I 679 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: can't dismiss that. A lot of times we look at 680 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: the stats that you throw in there and you go, 681 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: wom he's the MVP. I'm just looking at value and 682 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't argue Chris Paul being a legitimate 683 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: MVP candidate. Why is he not considered, you know, one 684 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: of the top five. And certainly, let's put in in 685 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: Phoenix finishes and ends up the number one seed in 686 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: the West because no one saw that saw this coming. 687 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: And let's remember now what Phoenix did in Bubble Life 688 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: in Orlando, going eight and zero and pushing those teams 689 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: and narrowly missing out on making the playoffs in Orlando. 690 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: So what has Montie Williams down. He has gone out 691 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: and gotten the best leader arguably in the game in 692 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: Chris Paul, and they have bought in to everything that 693 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: he has said. Now, again, it remains to be seen 694 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the playoffs, but I absolutely 695 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: agree with you that Chris Paul needs to be getting 696 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 1: more love for the MVP talk. Now, he's not the 697 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: best player on that team. The closer and the best 698 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: player on the team is Kevin Booker, and I think 699 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: that's what's kind of going to hurt him because they 700 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,479 Speaker 1: will take votes away from one another. But in terms 701 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: of value, the word you use in a team buying 702 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: in to a system and to a player and believing. 703 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: Now they are a young team for a team to believe. 704 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: And that's all spearheaded by the head of the Snake 705 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: and Chris Paul. He's Reggie Millner, the Hall of Famer, 706 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: back with us and he's on the call Thursday night. 707 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: It's Lakers Clippers at ten Eastern on TNT. And so 708 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: when you're doing the games at home, the kiddies are 709 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: in bed by then, so nobody's like walking in when 710 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: you're doing the game and interrupting you. At home, Kevin 711 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: calls the game from his basement in Kansas City. Yeah, 712 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate enough to be able to go to a 713 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: studio because they asked me, Hey, do you want to 714 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: call the game from home? He gave me that option. 715 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, to the nil am I doing that 716 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: because I would be changing a diaper as well as 717 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: blowing noses from two little kids. There's no way I 718 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: can functionally call a two and a half three hour 719 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: game with three kids. There's just no way. So I'm 720 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to go to a studio and call the 721 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: game and sync up with my partner Kevin Harlett. Are 722 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: you at your house right now? I'm at my house. Now, 723 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,839 Speaker 1: there's nothing on the walls, Rege. I'm at my rented house. 724 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I'm gonna say, man, there's nothing here. There's nothing. 725 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 1: This is This is the office of the riged house. 726 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: There's a trash man, there's a machine. There's Michael Jackson's hat. 727 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: That's that's the flies possession in here. Michael Jackson's Wait, 728 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: bring gene hat. But that's it. Wait, go go get that. 729 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: That is it? Bring that over here. So this is 730 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: the this is the Billy Jean had. Oh, this is 731 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: the Billy j Ha Oh I take it off. Redge 732 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: has got to Michael Jackson had under signed and signed. 733 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: What did that cost you? It was a retirement gift 734 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: from the bas a retirement gift from the pacers. How 735 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: cool is this? You know? So when you watch the 736 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: video and he's scold it out, yeah, one of the Fedoras. Right, 737 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: come on, you can't go. This is the number one 738 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: product of the Jordan Jersey, the Bird Jersey, the Magic jersey, 739 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: all of them signed by the great basketball gods, the 740 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. I'm taking this as my most prized possession 741 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: ever in my health. Wait, you got a Jordan signed jersey? 742 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: I did I do? Okay, because you never got along 743 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: with him? No, who asked for it? Oh you think 744 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: I asked for that? No? Get hey to thenll But 745 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: but you had to ask somebody to do it. Yes, okay. 746 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: One of the people that worked for the Pacers obviously 747 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: wanted one, and they're like, hey, I'll get too if 748 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: you can, like, you know, put a word in. I 749 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not putting a word in. But so 750 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: I sent a ball boy down to the Bulls locker 751 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: room and says, hey, Redd's just you know, there's a 752 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: friend that works for the Pacers would love you're autographing 753 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, him and a friend. No, if you'll sign 754 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 1: these two? I was the friend wanted. Did Michael want 755 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:55,279 Speaker 1: one of your jerseys? Okay? For the third time to 756 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: the knall, I am Jenny wanted my jersey. No. I 757 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: don't think George has any jerseys on No, I don't 758 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: think right now just Bird has any. And I don't 759 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: think maybe Magic does. Magic is a Hoop or maybe 760 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: Magic does, but I don't think Bird or or Eric 761 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: Jordan has any Are you sold on the Knicks like 762 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: this is a is this a legitimate feel good story? 763 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: But the Knicks, I'm absolutely sold. I'm sold that they 764 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: can win a first round playoff matchup. I think they 765 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: can get to the Conference Semis play great defense, they 766 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 1: have a bona fly coach and coach Thibadeau. Julius Randall 767 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: most improved, no question, hands down, is gonna probably win 768 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,799 Speaker 1: at this year. And I think RJ. Barrett is starting 769 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: to understand the game. They play again. They're long, they're athletic. 770 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: It's a great feel good story. It's great to have 771 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: the number one media market New York. Have two good teams, 772 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: to have Brooklyn and New York. I think that's great 773 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: for the league. Um, but I think the Eastern Conferences, 774 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: I think it's wide open. I know everyone wants to 775 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: lean towards Brooklyn. I hope those guys they get to 776 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: the finish line. You know, I know what, Katie had 777 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: a great game last night. Kyrie has been playing great. 778 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: We're still waiting for Harden to come back. He had 779 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of a setback with the hamstring injury. 780 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: The team to watch in the East. I'm telling everyone this, 781 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: they were the most disappointing team the last two years 782 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: because they have the best record. Let me see if 783 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 1: I can get oh blew it? Yeah you did? Okay? Milwaukee. 784 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: I think they were never used to being the hunter, right, 785 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 1: they were always being I think now that they're gonna 786 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: go out and be the hunter instead of the hunted. 787 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,479 Speaker 1: I think Milwaukee's in the best place because no one's 788 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: talking about them. They're talking about Philly, they're talking about Brooklyn, 789 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: and they're talking about what's wrong with Boston. No one's 790 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: talking about Milwaukee And what did your honest do last 791 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: night versus Brooklyn? And Katie puts up forty nine in 792 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: his return Milwaukee. This could be the year. Explain to 793 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: me why the Pelicans are so bad. I don't know. 794 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: They played less defense than I do reg And you 795 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: know what, it's so wild because their head coach is 796 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: all about Deepen. That's why they brought him in, right, Yes, yes, Look, 797 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 1: it's this is very unique and weird year. It really is. 798 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: There's no practice time. It's all about game of a 799 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: game every other day, and it stands first year I'm 800 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: going to give them a little bit of a long 801 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: leadsh If they play like this next season, then it's something. 802 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: It's an area of concern. But it's just been a 803 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: weird year. Theodore and Zion, you know, he is real. 804 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 1: You know, I'm wondering, like, what does he add to 805 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: his game? Because all the great players add something. It 806 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: feels like almost on a yearly basis seventy and that's 807 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 1: probably I'm probably exaggerating, Okay, I will say sixty eight 808 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: percent of his shots and field goals come from in 809 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: the paint, right, you can't stop him. So if you 810 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: can't stop him out of the paint, if he got 811 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,399 Speaker 1: a fifteen to eighteen foot face up jump shot consistently, 812 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: how are you going to guard him? Saying like we 813 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 1: say this about Yannas too, Like how if he ever 814 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: got that consistently, how would you guard him? Because both 815 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: have quick first steps, both can jump over you, both 816 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: can handle the basketball, and both are smart enough to 817 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: know when they're doubled and triple team define the open player. 818 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: He just needs a face up jump shot. Yeah, but 819 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: why is it one of the great leapers in the 820 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: game doesn't have a jump shot like he doesn't jump 821 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: on his jump shot, Well, if it ain't broke, don't 822 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: fix it. I look, if they can't stop how he's scoring, 823 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: now keep going to it where it will come out 824 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 1: and where his flaws will be exposed as if they 825 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: ever made the playoffs, because when you make the playoffs 826 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: and you get into a series, teams take away your 827 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,280 Speaker 1: three best moves, three best plays, what you do the best, 828 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: and that's when we would see if Zion is able 829 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: to adapt to playoff basketball. If you lose one of 830 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,719 Speaker 1: the three on Brooklyn for an extended amount of time 831 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, who could they afford to lose for 832 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: an extended period of time. Probably probably James Harden because 833 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: we're kind of seeing that now. I think they can't 834 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: afford to lose KD for an extended period of time 835 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,840 Speaker 1: because he is arguably the best player, in my opinion, 836 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 1: in the league, and he's a closer. Kyrie would be 837 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: second because of his ball handling and shot making ability. 838 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: And I think when James Harden does eventually return, he 839 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,959 Speaker 1: is going to take on the de facto point guard. 840 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 1: He's going to defer a lot and score when he 841 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 1: needs to. But I think he'll be the buttified true 842 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: point guard on this team once he does return. But 843 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: to me, James Harden would be the third person if 844 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 1: you had to lose them for extended period of time. 845 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: I think the next will still be successful with Katie 846 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: and Kyrie. It's great to see you. Great to have 847 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: you back, and uh, Regg will be with us throughout 848 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs. There Lakers Clippers at TENNY Eastern on Thursday night. 849 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: You got your Michael Jack. Do you know the whole 850 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:27,439 Speaker 1: dance routine? I know, but I wame shut. Don't pull 851 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 1: a hamstring there. Oh he's fifty five year old legs. 852 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: I know, Oh, I know, I know. Uh, great to 853 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: have you back. We'll talk to you next week. You 854 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: love you, Love you, Reggie. Aloisius Miller Junior the third. 855 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 1: We're back after this. We haven't against the grain. Buy 856 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 1: mclove and last call for phone calls right after this