1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome in everybody, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Ertorus, Jason Martin. We 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: are broadcasting live from the Tireck dot Com Studios, tirerec 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: dot Com. We'll help you get there an unmatched election, 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten 6 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: thousand recommended installers tirerec dot com the way tire buying 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: should be Aertorius here the Fox Sports Radio LA Studios. 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Jmart out in Nashville. Jmart what's going on, man? 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: Man, it's been a week. 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 3: Man. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: I'm glad to just be here talking sports now. But 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: we did get the holiday and all of those things. 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: It's just been you know, sometimes life takes over. It's 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: definitely been a week. Well. 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: I am excited to be with you as always. And 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: the great part is, Jason, you know, there are moments 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: in every person's life, the uh, you know, the birth 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: of a child. 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: Boy, I can feel I could feel the sarcasm dripping 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: right now. 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I could be starting anywhere. You know, maybe 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: we had a baby born in my family this week. 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: We didn't. 24 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, happy anniversary. By the way, No, that did happen. 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: That was on my calendar. I may have missed it. 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: Who was yesterday? 27 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Wasn't it? Look at you, buddy? 28 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: It was? We had it and Bo both like, that's right. 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 2: I just remember it. I remember it, and I put 30 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: it in my phone and I forgot to say something 31 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: to you yesterday. 32 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: Actually this is perfectly applicable because I remembered it was 33 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: Bo's birthday, and this is what I texted Bo. Let 34 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: me make sure that it is radio acceptable. Let me 35 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: see here. Okay, that's interesting, I said, Bro, forgot, it's 36 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: your anniversary. Happy anniversary. I got you an arrogant head 37 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: coach and a net bo backup six to one shooting 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: guard as a gift for your favorite basketball team. That's 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: a little dark. That's a little dark. No swears know nothing. 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: And I'll continue to say what I have said about 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: Bronni pretty consistently. And I did open with a lot 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: of sarcasm because today was the it was the debut. 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: I haunted historic debut. 44 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: Yes, like I said, we will remember where we were forever. 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: When Bronni went to the California Showcase California Classic excuse 46 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: me out in San Francisco and put up a stat 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: line of four points on two of nine, shooting, two rebounds, 48 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: to assists in one steal in twenty two minutes of play. 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: So listen, we've had all the takes on should he 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: have been drafted, should he not have been drafted? He 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: makes his debut with the Los Angeles Lakers, and I 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: hate to be crash, and I hate to be sarcastic Jason, 53 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: but maybe not sarcastic. But it went kind of like 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: how pretty much everybody thought it was going to go right. 55 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, he had four points. He had four points, 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: and that's fine, right, I mean, it's a summer League game. 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: But I will tell you something. We talked about hatred 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: not coming towards Bronnie and going right to his dad 59 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 2: that there's really nothing Bronnie has done wrong, and that's 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: still true, right, But I just got to point this out. 61 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 2: I went to our favorite four letter dot com website 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: and so they, of course, if you've been to that website, 63 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: which most people have, they'll have you know the score, 64 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: and then they'll have several things about that game that 65 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 2: stood out. And the second biggest thing to happen outside 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: of I mean, they've got this Copa Americana situation here, 67 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: that's happening live. And then right underneath NBA Summer League. 68 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: So that's the second most important thing. Apparently it happened 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: today Kings two. Kings Team two won one away to 70 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: ninety four. Let me tell you what the headlines are 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: in order. Bronnie drives and drains his first Summer League 72 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: bucket is Lakers fall to Kings. What mattered most? And 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: Bronnie James NBA's Summer League debut. Insiders breaking down Bronnie's 74 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: performance in the opener. Number three, Come on, man, that's tough, 75 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: lebron and reacts to Bronnie's first bucket. Number four, Bronnie 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 2: puts filthy move on his defender for a Lakers bucket. 77 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: Number five, Bronnie Steele sets up a Lakers bucket. Those 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: are the only things mentioned at all. And then the 79 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: sixth thing is Bronnie James fit with the Lakers. So 80 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: that's number six. So there's six takes about this game 81 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: that they lost by fourteen, and he scored four points 82 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: in he scored less points than there are headlines about him. 83 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: Wow, on one. 84 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: Website in a game might and I just got to 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: point this out. Someone in this game a rookie scored 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: thirty two points in this game, but you would have 87 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 2: to go to the box score to find that because 88 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: it's not there. You want to see where the hatred 89 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 2: will be generated from, it's that right there. 90 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: Well it's tough. So I don't disagree. And I think 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: you and I were both in kind of lockstep a 92 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: week ago that you know, I don't think either of 93 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: us even still listen, you know, Get gets a crazy 94 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: contract relative to you know what, he probably should have 95 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: all that, Like I get all that, and we were 96 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: in lockstep a week ago that he has not brought 97 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: on any of this himself. He happened to be the 98 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: son of Lebron James. He's trying to make his own 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: name whatever. I don't know that like he I still 100 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: think I disagree with you a little bit from the 101 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: perspective of I don't think he becomes the bad guy. 102 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: I just think what I will say is that this 103 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: has to me a lot of Caitlin Clark vibes from 104 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. By the way, looks like we 105 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a stunner in Copa America 106 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: as Uruguay has beaten Brazil in penalty kicks, so Uruguay 107 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: who knocked out Team USA, and I got some thoughts 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: on TMSA. By the way, all the people the want 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: of the TBSA coach fired. Maybe Uruguay is not as 110 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: bad as we thought. But Uruguay advances in Copa America 111 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: knocking out Brazil. All right, so we'll get back to 112 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: soccer actually pretty soon here, Jason, But do you want 113 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: to stay with Bronnie. I don't listen. I don't know 114 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: if he becomes the bad guy, but I do get 115 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: big Caitlin Clark, You're trying to force a story on 116 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: us that we do not care about. Now, the Caitlin 117 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: Clark thing, I will say, we're gonna talk about it 118 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: later in the show. I think it took. It did 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: become a topic that people cared about when it became 120 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: political and conversations about her sexuality and her race and 121 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: her this. But like, I don't know that people care 122 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: that much as much as the Four Letters is trying 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: to make us care about the actual basketball on the court. Again, 124 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: we'll get back to that later in the show. But 125 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: that's the vibe with Bronnie, is is it's just maybe 126 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: you're right. I do think that people are just ultimately 127 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: going to get annoyed with him and the coverage around him, 128 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: because like everything else Jason, it is not warranted. He 129 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: has done nothing to prove that he should be on 130 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: this stage. I don't blame him for being the son 131 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: of Lebron James and his father manipulated the situation to 132 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: get his son drafted. I think that the father's looking 133 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: out for the son. Dads do that across the country 134 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: every single day. But I do think there I guess 135 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: I'm leaning more with you in that I think there's 136 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: going to be public backlash if they if the people 137 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: that cover this sport keep trying to shove this down 138 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: our throat as if it's a real thing. 139 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: All right, So I think you're right. I think I 140 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: think the hatred will go towards the story. He's just 141 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: going to be the face of the story and eventually 142 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: you're going to roll your eyes at him. But I 143 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: think that the brunt of it is just going to 144 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: be on a story that feels like it's getting way 145 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: more than it deserves. That said, I do think the 146 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: only the only, like the biggest highlight coming out of 147 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: that game, because it's a summer League game is the 148 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: fact that Bronni played and what did he do. But 149 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: I don't think he needs six headlines for it. I 150 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: don't think it's that important. I don't think you need 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: everybody's reaction to the insider's breaking down what he did 152 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: and what it's going to mean. And like, we haven't 153 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: gotten there. He didn't earn his spot. He also doesn't 154 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: earn this level of coverage like that. That's the other thing, 155 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: and I think that's where some of this can backfire 156 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: and and maybe some of it sticks to him. I 157 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: do think you have to mention it. I mean, we 158 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: talked about it. We knew we were gonna lead with this. 159 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: He had four points in the game. But it's a 160 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: name because of his dad, and it's a story that 161 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: has largely been the only thing coming out of the 162 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: NBA Draft that is worthy of real mention in terms 163 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: of what's going to move the needle on a national perspective. 164 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: But I do like eventually it's it's going to have 165 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: to actually translate to something or it's gonna be a problem. 166 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: Like we can sit here and we're in July, so 167 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: we could certainly do this. We can list stories that 168 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 2: the four letter and everybody else turned into something, and 169 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 2: even ones that were certainly something relevant that became Oh gosh, 170 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: do I have to hear about Brett Varv and Aaron 171 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: Rodgers again? Do I have to hear MJ versus little 172 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: Bron again? Do I have to hear X, Y and 173 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: Z again? Gosh? They will never stop talking about this 174 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: person or this story, Like gosh, I'm so tired of it. 175 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: But the reason why they keep doing it is because 176 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: people do get engaged in it, Like the comments. If 177 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: you were to Let's say you go to the Athletic 178 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: and they've probably got to they have a story up 179 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 2: right now about BRONI if you go to the comments, 180 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: I bet a lot of the comments are we don't care. 181 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: But you were there on the article and spent the 182 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: time to say that. And that's why it's kind of 183 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: a double edged sword. I can understand why you want 184 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: to give it some publicity. I don't think it's earned 185 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: this level of publicity. And if you overdo it, and 186 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: I think that's the key in what you said, if 187 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: you continue to try and force this as opposed to 188 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: letting it generate its own, you know, universe, then it 189 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: feels AstroTurf. Then it feels fake and then everyone will 190 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: reject it. 191 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: It's funny. And I know this person is, you know, 192 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: polarizing whatever, and I know he's made a career off 193 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: of criticizing Bronni's dad. Let's get bay, let's listen. I 194 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: know he works for this network whatever. But you know throughout, 195 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, four or five tweets during the game, and 196 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: my whole thought was like, by the way, he's much 197 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: more successful this business than I am. So maybe I'm 198 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: the idiot for not live tweeting Bronnie's debut, But to me, 199 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: it was like, why are we analyzing analyzing this as 200 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: if it's a real prospect, that's a real story. And 201 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: maybe it is still a real story. But you know, 202 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: like the opening line of one of his tweets like 203 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: not seeing much from Bronnie yet, and then he goes 204 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: into what he's done, but it's like, yeah, we're not 205 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: seeing it because there's nothing there, right, because there's never 206 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: been anything there, and no one that knows basketball follows basketball, 207 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: believes in basketball. You don't even have to be a 208 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: basketball fan. Let's just use common sense again. All of 209 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: the stuff that everyone has talked about for the last 210 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: two or three weeks leading up into and through the draft. 211 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: You don't average whatever he averaged at USC as a 212 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: freshman be crazy undersized. And I know he had the 213 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: heart serious you know, not even a condition. He had 214 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: a serious you know, he had cardiac arrest. I get it. 215 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: But at the same time, he came back, and it's 216 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: just like, I just I don't know. It's just like, 217 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: why are the way that when I was reading those tweets, 218 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, I happen to go on social media and 219 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: I saw it. It's like, why are we treating this 220 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: as though he's a real prospect, Like, you know, no 221 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: one really thinks he is. I have yet to hear 222 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: anybody make the really strong case outside of JJ Redick 223 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: and Rob Polinka obviously that he is like a legitimate 224 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: NBA prospect at least right now. And it's just I 225 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: don't know. It's like, I'll be honest, I almost didn't 226 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: even put this into the. 227 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: Show, and I thought you knew we had to exactly yeah. Yeah, 228 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: And that's that's frustrating its own right. But to your point, 229 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: there's no there there like there there's there's nothing there. 230 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: Let me take this to a very current point. So 231 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: there's a lot of democratic governors right now and senators 232 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 2: and House representatives that want to see the President of 233 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: the United States reassure them that he is up for 234 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: the task. Everyone knows why we you know, we all 235 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: saw the debate. We've all seen the aftermath. You know, 236 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: they had an interview where eight million people sat there 237 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: to try and be reassured. The problem is, you can't 238 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: be reassured when there's nothing there, Like you can't reassure 239 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: something that doesn't exist. It's the same things like Ronnie 240 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: not seeing anything from him yet, right, because you've never 241 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: seen anything from him before. It was nothing there for 242 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: him to lose. He can't prove something. He can't show 243 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 2: you something that doesn't exist. Our president can't show you 244 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: something that doesn't exist, like eventually you recognize what's in 245 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: front of your face and you see it with your eyes. 246 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: That's why this whole thing feels so ridiculous, because we 247 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 2: understand watching Bronnie, he should not be here but for 248 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: his dad. So you can't gaslight us if you're in 249 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: the media and tell us stuff like, man, he's got 250 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: a lot of room to grow, right because he's starting 251 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: at negative five, Like, there's there's And I've said that 252 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: now two weeks in a row because it's just the truth. Like, 253 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: and I hate that because he's a young guy that's 254 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: done nothing wrong except that he is the object of 255 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: maybe the biggest case of nepotism ever seen in American 256 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: pro sports. 257 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: Well, the last part is, as far as I know, 258 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't think there's. 259 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: Really I think maybe maybe there was something I missed 260 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 2: way back, but certainly in my in my experience, it would. 261 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: Be Yeah, I can't think of much of anything that's applicable. 262 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, Jayson, there is one more 263 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: angle on this Bronny conversation, but more specifically the state 264 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: of the Lakers. I think what we saw today again 265 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Bronnie makes his debut four points on two of nine shooting. 266 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: What it says about not just today, but the state 267 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: of the Lakers overall and maybe some things that happen 268 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: throughout the week. That's next. Fox Sports Radio. 269 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 270 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: the nation. 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Picture if you will a world 279 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: where we chat with captains of industry in media, sports 280 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: and more every week explore some amazing facts on human 281 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 4: nature and more. Listen to the Fifth Hour with Ben 282 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: Maller or the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you 283 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: get your podcast. 284 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,239 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio ERRATORUS Jason Martin broadcasting 285 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: live from the Tirec dot Com studios. You know what, 286 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: jmart I was gonna talk a little bit more Lakers, 287 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: but I am gonna switch gears. Disagre's gonna have all 288 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: of the updates on the COPE America tournament. But it 289 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: feels like a good time to kind of hit on 290 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: this topic because Uruguay actually advanced past Brazil tonight kind 291 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: of a I would assume a stunner and again Disaga 292 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: will have the update, but I bring it up because 293 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: this comes obviously just days after the US was unable 294 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: to beat Uruguay uh and was eliminated in the group 295 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: stage of this tournament. And so why I want to 296 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: talk about, Jason is this is that as soon as 297 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: the game went final, and frankly, well before the game 298 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: went final. You know, listen, I know social media is 299 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: not a reflection of everything, but you go on social 300 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: media and literally everyone, oh, we gotta get rid of 301 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: the coach. Greg Burrholter is the worst coach that I 302 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: have ever seen. And I bring it up because I 303 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: don't you know, I'm not a soccer expert, but everyone 304 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: says he's not good. That's okay, whatever, But I'll also 305 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: say this, Jason, you know what other coach that I 306 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: have been told is no good and needs to go 307 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: and is the reason that Team USA cannot reach its 308 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: potential as a soccer nation. Literally every coach of my 309 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: entire life. Jason and I was thinking about this after 310 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: they got eliminated. I'm not saying that the US shouldn't 311 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: strive to be the best it can be at every 312 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: single sport, but it kind of drives me crazy that 313 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: there's really no track record of the US ever being 314 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: very good at soccer. Now we've had a run or 315 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: two here or there in the World Cup, but never 316 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: being really good good, and yet every time we lose 317 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: in a big international fire the coach gotta get a 318 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: new coach. Why are he is holding back? The entire 319 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: program drives me crazy, Jason. We saw it again this 320 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: week after USA was eliminated by Uruguay in the Coup 321 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: America tournament. 322 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 323 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean Burholter wasn't particularly popular among a lot 324 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: of soccer Fishonados, and he had kind of rubbed some 325 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: people the wrong way, so it becomes time to dunk 326 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: on him for those people. But you're right, like your 327 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: bigger point is true, US is not very good at soccer. 328 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: They're just not. It, doesn't you look at it. You're like, well, 329 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 2: why why not? I mean, we have all these athletes 330 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: and all these other sports. Yeah, but those other sports 331 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: are what most of these kids are playing, you know, 332 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: from a young age, and all these a lot of 333 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: these other countries are seemingly coming out of the womb 334 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: with soccer balls. Like that's just. 335 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: And there's not the d It's not like you know, 336 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: kids in this country and it's a great thing. They 337 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: take horseback riding lessons, they swim, they take they you know, 338 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: they play multiple sports, and that's great, that's a privilege 339 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 1: of living in this country. But I'm guessing, just let's 340 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: use your guy as an example. I don't mean a stereotype, 341 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: and I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, 342 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: but I'm guessing most of those kids are not playing 343 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: three four five sports growing up. It's pretty much all soccer. 344 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: And it's again, I didn't mean to cutch you off. 345 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: Keep going, I apologize, Yeah, I mean truthfully, and what 346 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: you're saying is right. I mean, soccer is a sport 347 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: that is much more approachable because really all you need 348 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 2: is the ball on feet, Like, yes, but you can 349 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 2: turn anything into a goal, Like you don't technically have 350 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: to have a goal. But you don't need to go 351 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: get all the baseball equipment, right, you don't need the 352 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: four hundred dollars bats and all of those kinds of things. 353 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: You don't need the pads. Maybe you need some shing guards. Well, 354 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: it's the first sport that I played when I was 355 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: a kid. I'm pretty sure it was soccer, and that 356 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: was because there was a youth soccer league and so 357 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: I got involved at that fairly early age. But it's 358 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: so we're going to do this again in a couple 359 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 2: of years because we always do. Oh, soccer is going 360 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: to be huge in this country. Look at this. You 361 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: do have an opportunity to grow it a little bit 362 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: during the World Cup. Same thing happened in ninety four. 363 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: But soccer is always going to have a niche compared 364 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: to bigger sports. And I do think at some point 365 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: it's just like, well, we can be the best. No, No, 366 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 2: I just don't think you can. I don't and I do, like, 367 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 2: I know what was Alexi Lallis said, Yeah, I'd love 368 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 2: to coach if they wanted me to coach, I'd love 369 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: to coach. I think, honestly, you do something like that. 370 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: Maybe not Alexi specifically, although maybe him, but I mean 371 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: somebody that we know who is like that. Actually, general 372 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 2: human beings know who is in the country, not just 373 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: huge soccer heads. Who are going to know who a 374 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: Greg ballt, Greg Burgholter is or you know Kleansman or 375 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: some these guys that come in. But all right, we 376 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: all remember Loless because he was kind of more of 377 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: a celebrity and a symbol because the hair and all 378 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And again from that ninety four team. 379 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: A lot of those guys became fairly household names. I 380 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: imagine if Landon Donovan won to coach, I mean, I 381 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 2: think you got to turn it into something, but you 382 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: also have to recognize what it is. Doesn't mean that 383 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: you could never ever win. But any expectation of getting 384 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: passed around the quarterfinals in the World Cup to me 385 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: is just you're gonna have to sell me on that, 386 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: Like there's no reason for me to believe that. 387 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean it's it's like, you know, I'll 388 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 1: give you an example. I remember two years ago, I 389 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: was at the Final four. You kind of wins its 390 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: first of back to back national championships, and I remember 391 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: talking to a Miami fan. I remember you kind of 392 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: played Miami of all schools in the final four, and 393 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: I remember talking to a fan in the lobby like, oh, 394 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, so sorry, you're season end whatever, and they 395 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: were like, it's just a dream to be here, you know. 396 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: It's I never thought i'd see my school in the 397 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: final four. And I just bring it up to say, like, yes, 398 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: there could be the scenario where the US gets past 399 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: the round of sixteen, you know, the first round after 400 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: the group stage, there could be a scenario, but we 401 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: don't have any historical data that that should be happening consistently, 402 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: and if it happens once, it's going to continue to happen. 403 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Jason, I have more thoughts on this, 404 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: and I have another question for you pertaining the team 405 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: USA soccer will come back. We will discuss that for 406 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: I do though, first time this evening on our show. 407 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: Let's toss it over the news desk to Sega, what 408 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: is trending? 409 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 6: Good evening, gentlemen, and you're correct, it is an unrealistic 410 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 6: expectation that US men's soccer get past, say, a World 411 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 6: Cup quarter final. The thing is, what's been happening with 412 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 6: this crew the last year is just seems light years 413 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 6: away from even that standard. So it wasn't just the 414 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 6: loss to a top twenty Uruguay team that put people 415 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 6: up in arms. It's the fact that it's been month 416 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 6: after month after month that this team is going nowhere 417 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 6: and where you're going to be a co host of 418 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 6: a World Cup. There's the potential of global embarrassment as 419 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 6: opposed to just regional embarrassing. 420 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: Question. 421 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: I don't mean, I don't mean interrupt would it be 422 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: global embarrassment. I don't think any I see, I fundamentally disagree. 423 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: It would be if they don't qualify. 424 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: Aren't you automatically qualify? Yeah, I'm saying that. 425 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 6: To my knowledge, literally every host of a World Cup 426 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 6: advanced out of its group until South Africa hosted and 427 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 6: they're not good at this sport. 428 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 429 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think the USA is good at this sport. 430 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: I don't. 431 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 6: I don't think rankings would disagree because they're usually. 432 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: People in England will like the way we like make 433 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: fun of Lebron and the Lakers when they lose in 434 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: the first round. I don't think people in England will 435 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: be like laughing at the USA. I don't think we're 436 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: good enough to be taken seriously by those countries. 437 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 6: I hate to say it, but there's a difference though, 438 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 6: between expecting a quarter final or just getting out of 439 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 6: your three games in the group stage. There's a huge 440 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 6: difference between that, and that's what the US isn't even 441 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 6: doing right now. They scored five goals total in their 442 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 6: last five games, so it's not just the last game 443 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 6: that was played. Since October, the record for the US 444 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 6: men is a losing record. 445 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: Five sixty one. And I'm not saying that Burholter is 446 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: the answer. All I'm saying is and we could continue 447 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: the conversation. I don't mean to interrupt your update. 448 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 6: No, it's a bigger problem than even Jess Burholt. I mean, 449 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 6: he's not the answer. US Soccer hired him, they let 450 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 6: his contract expire at the last World Cup, and then 451 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 6: they just rehired the old guy after months of an 452 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 6: interim guy. 453 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: Where are you going with this? 454 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 6: So we can't I like the fact of one thing 455 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 6: what the fans are saying essentially is we can't say 456 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 6: we're successful by continuing to beat Panama and El Salvador 457 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 6: and some of these regional opponents, because when we played 458 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 6: a real team as a tune up for this tournament Columbia, 459 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 6: we lost five to one. And in US history, I 460 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 6: mean in history since the first World Cup, we've got 461 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 6: more than one victory in a World Cup once ever, 462 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 6: and that was with Landon Donovan making a run to 463 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 6: the quarterfinals about twenty years ago. This top twenty Uruguay 464 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 6: team continues to win. They've eliminated Brazil on penalty kicks 465 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 6: in Las Vegas tonight, an ugly game in the ninety 466 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 6: minutes forty one fouls total in this Copa America quarterfinal 467 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 6: on FS one, but Uruguay, in their tune up a 468 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 6: month ago, beat Mexico four nothing, and late last year 469 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 6: in World Cup qualifying, Urguay beat Argentina and Brazil in 470 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 6: back to back games and had a tie game against Columbia. 471 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 6: Colombia's unbeaten in its last twenty seven games over the 472 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 6: last two and a half years, and in front of 473 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 6: forty thousand fans in Arizona. Today, Columbia won five nothing 474 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 6: over Panama in a Copa America quarterfinal. As for the Euros, 475 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 6: England won its quarter on penalty kicks against Switzerland. Netherlands 476 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 6: came back to beat Turkey eight two to one. The 477 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 6: semi start Tuesday on Fox TV with Spain versus France 478 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 6: at Wimble Number one Egas Fiontec lost in three sets. 479 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 6: The Sacramento Kings acquired Damar DeRozan. He'll get a three 480 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 6: year contract. Harrison Barnes goes to the Spurs in the 481 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 6: sign and trade. Among the WNBA's two games, Minnesota won 482 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 6: at home tonight. Indiana got a home win and a 483 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 6: comeback against New York today eighty three seventy eight Kaitlin 484 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 6: Clark at triple double, the first by a rookie in 485 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 6: league history. And there are two late games in Major 486 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 6: League Baseball in San Diego. It's still Arizona two to 487 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 6: one over the Padres in the bottom of the sixth inning, 488 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 6: and the other Lake game has now gone final at Colorado. 489 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 6: Rocky Peat Kansas City three to one, Atlanta over Philadelphia 490 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 6: five to one, Dodgers beat Milwaukee five three. Show Hey 491 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 6: Otani leads to the National League in homers hee at his 492 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 6: twenty eight I got to mention at the Brave's own 493 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 6: game tonight, it's not just that they wear the greatest 494 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 6: uniforms for any Saturday in Major League Baseball, the Hank 495 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 6: Aaron Era unis, but Braves Hall of Fame manager Bobby 496 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 6: Cox was in attendance and received a standing ovation. 497 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: It was great. Back to you, Thank you very much, 498 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: Steve Saga, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Er towards 499 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tireq dot Com studios. So, 500 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: Jay mart let's continue this conversation because as we discussed, 501 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: so as de Saga just told us, Uruguay has advanced 502 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: in Coopa they beat Brazil. Of course, Uruguay is the 503 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: team that knocked the US out of this tournament. Do 504 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: you have any thoughts on just bigger picture? Because I 505 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: just sit there and say, again, uh, listen, I am 506 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: never going to say that you shouldn't strive, especially the US, 507 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: with the resources that we have, with the finances that 508 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: we have, we should It's not that we shouldn't strive 509 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: to be good at something. I do think the expect 510 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: I don't even want to say. I don't want to 511 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: say the expectations are unrealistic. What I want to say 512 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: is that the expectations don't, in my opinion, fall in 513 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: line with anything that we've seen historically. And so I 514 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: just bring it up because do you have a thought. 515 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: I I sort of have a half baked thought that 516 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: I need to make sure I articulate properly because I 517 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: didn't do a very good job of it the other 518 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: day when I was filling with the Empire. But do 519 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: you have any thought on why or at least in 520 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: my opinion, By the way, do you disagree that the 521 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: expectations relative to the results are unrealistic? 522 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do for most people. I mean, I don't 523 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: know what just general, Like what is ordinary sports fan 524 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 2: and that's a good que football fan, Like what is 525 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 2: his expectation, what is her expectation of what the US 526 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 2: is going to do. You get excited because you still 527 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 2: want to see your country do well. But if you're 528 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: going to measure your expectations and you're gonna look at history, 529 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: and you're gonna look at the makeup of the team 530 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: and how these guys have performed an international play. I 531 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: always go back to the same thing. You always get 532 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: the well soccer skin explode and look at these attendances 533 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: at these various MLS games and you know, look at 534 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: all the international people that are going to the Nashville 535 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: team here Nashville site just I mean, it sells out 536 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: all the time, and it's a great environment. It is 537 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: it's a funny, it's a fun experience. But here's the thing, right, 538 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: But they don't need Team USA to cheer for, right, 539 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: Like if there's a bunch of if there's a bunch 540 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 2: of international fans, they are gonna cheer for their country. 541 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: Like if you came here from Mexico, maybe you'd cheer 542 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: for Team USA, but you might also cheer for Mexico. 543 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: I would think, and that would be the case you 544 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: came from Costa Rica or if you came from Brazil 545 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 2: or Argentina or anything else, you're gonna go to the 546 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: MLS because you can see Lionel Messi and Miami or whatever. 547 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: But I think the biggest problem as it relates to 548 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: just where fans are and watching soccer is the MLS experience. 549 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: First off, the MLS doesn't translate to the World Cup 550 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: at all because of the way international things are set 551 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: up and how many of the guys that are in 552 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 2: the MLS are gonna go play for their home countries 553 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: and all of that kind of stuff. There's just there's 554 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: a big time disconnect, and there's always this cell job 555 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: out there as to why you need to get on 556 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 2: the soccer train. It's like it's just my expectations for 557 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 2: the team kind of match up with my expectations for 558 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: the sport in the country. It has its moments, but 559 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: it's never going to be a consistent thing, and that's 560 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 2: kind of how I feel about Team USA. Every once 561 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: in a while, you know they'll do something and they'll 562 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: they'll pull a game out that you're not expecting or 563 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: something like that, like they did a couple of World 564 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: Cups ago where it got kind of exciting there for 565 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: a minute, but at the same time, nobody is looking 566 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: at them like, boy, they're a threat to win it all. 567 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 2: And even when Steve mentioned, you know, they're usually in 568 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: the top twenty five, I'm like, yeah, if you're one 569 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 2: of the twenty five best teams in the world, I 570 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: don't know that that's all that impressive to me. 571 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: Like, like, you'd have to sell me on that too. 572 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: You'd have to make me think that that mattered, because 573 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that ain't getting you into quarterfinals A lot 574 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: of times, that won't get you out of the group, right, 575 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: because I don't know, I'd have to look up exactly 576 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: how many teams are in the World Cup. But there's 577 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: just there's a lot of things that are absent here 578 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: on the side of the expectation, on the side of 579 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: the sport in general, on the interest level, and yes, 580 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: with what they're actually doing on the pitch itself. 581 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I understand. Actually I think that there's two 582 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: elements too. I think, as the Sager just pointed out, 583 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: even at whatever your ranking is, you're losing to teams that, 584 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: according to the rankings you shouldn't be losing to And 585 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: then you know, Dan Byro when I was working with 586 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: him the other day, kind of pointed out like the 587 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: other problem is that, you know, when you get to 588 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: these big international tournaments, even when you have success, you're 589 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: not beating the teams that take you to that next level, 590 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: you know. So it's almost like whoever, you know, the 591 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: team that can win the division in the NFL, But 592 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: then you get to the playoffs and you play the 593 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs or whoever, and you can't advance. And and I 594 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: think there's something to all of that. And I just 595 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: I look at the team USA and I just say, 596 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 1: you know, the analogy that I use the other day, 597 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: Jason is again, I know I keep repeating myself, so 598 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: I apologize. It's not that I don't think Americans should 599 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: have realistic expectation or or or strive to be great. 600 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: And I will say, like, you know, may I think 601 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: the point that you bring up is I would be 602 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: curious and people are welcome to tweet in at Aaron 603 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: Underscore Torres at Jmart Radio. As a matter of fact, 604 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: why don't we just we can even open up the 605 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: phone lines if people want to call in one eight seven, 606 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven, seven, nine 607 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: nine six six three sixty nine. Because I think that's 608 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: a fair point. You know, legitimate team USA soccer fans 609 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: are very vocal, but I don't know what the realistic 610 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: expectation is for the dude that or woman that doesn't 611 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: live it day by day, week by week. I guess 612 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: I would just wrap because I did say this with 613 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: Dan Byer the other day. Is to me, it's almost like, 614 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, I use the analogy. It's like Mississippi State football, right, 615 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, yeah, you want your team to 616 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: be good, but Mississippi State fans don't wake up every 617 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: day saying we should be beating Alabama, we should be 618 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: beating lu because or maybe they do, I don't know, 619 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: but like there's no history of them doing that, and 620 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: so because there's no history of a certain team in 621 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: any sport doing anything, I don't understand why the fans 622 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: expect something different. 623 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Jason, Yeah it does, And that's 624 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 2: a good analogy. But I will say this thinking as 625 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: you were saying that the job of USA Soccer is 626 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: to compete, the ultimate goal of USA Soccer is to 627 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 2: win a world Cup. If somebody is failing in that, 628 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: then that's up in Team USA needs to take up 629 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 2: any and the fans are gonna say what they're gonna say, 630 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: same thing. Like think about Mississippi State. Yeah they're not 631 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: being Alabama, but their coach isn't remaining there for a 632 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: decade either, Like they're still bringing in another coach. Their 633 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 2: fans are still saying, let's get somebody else. Because let's 634 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: just say this, You're never going to succeed in making 635 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 2: sports matter if you extinguish hope. Yeah, hope is incredibly 636 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: important for every fan base like you. Not winning is 637 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: not winning a college football championship. I hate to tell 638 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: you that, but one of the great things about every 639 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,719 Speaker 2: off season is you're all zero and zero and then 640 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: you have an opportunity and you can talk yourself into 641 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: it and have some fun with it. Now, I don't 642 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: think you can talk yourself into Yukon. I may have 643 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 2: taken it a little bit too far there, but you know, 644 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 2: if you're Mississippi State, you're still in the SEC and 645 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: you still feel like there could be it could be 646 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: better than it is. Even if you're four steps off, 647 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: Can we make it two steps off and again, like 648 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: you look at the Burrholter thing, and it's true, like 649 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 2: outside of what Bruce arena, there really hasn't been somebody 650 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: that has had that kind of success where you've really 651 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 2: bought in for at least a year or so for 652 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 2: what's going on. It's all kind of been calamitous and 653 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: falling apart and all that. But I do think that 654 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: you have to take into consideration the Team USA's ultimate 655 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: goal has to be to win a World Cup. It 656 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: has to be. That's the only reason there in existence 657 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: is to win matches. 658 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: Real quick, I'll tell you what, why don't we come 659 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: back continue this conversation because I want to. I'm gonna 660 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: actually write that down. Team USA ultimate goal to win 661 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: World Cup, all right, So we're going to come back 662 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: and to continue this conversation. By the way, if you 663 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: do want to weigh in, what are your expectations one 664 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox one eight seven 665 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: sevens uh one eight seven seven ninety nine Fox one 666 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: eight seven seven six three six ' nine will come 667 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: back continue this conversation. Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to 668 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Radio. Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio 669 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: er Tords Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck dot 670 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: com studios for the break, Jmar and I were talking 671 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: a little bit about Team USA soccer lose. 672 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: Wait a second, is this about? Is this is this 673 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 2: song in an honor at Kaitlyn Clark? 674 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: Today was a good day. 675 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: Messed around, got a triple double. 676 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: Messed around, got your all. We'll find out on top 677 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: of the hour we'll be discussing Kaitlyn Clark. So a 678 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: couple things, Uh, we got a couple U we do 679 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: have a call. First, Roll says, I don't mean to 680 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: interrupt you, and then immediately interrupts your co hosts eight 681 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: times in under two hours. Gotta be a record for you, 682 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: Torres the worst. Well, that didn't really answer the question 683 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: that we posed before the break. 684 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: Well, not to interrupt you, but. 685 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: But no, we did pose before the break Team USA soccer, 686 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: what should be realistic expectations after the loss to Uruguay 687 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: in the Kopa Tournament. Interesting question? Tweet it in from 688 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: lore keeper od and I think there's an obvious answer 689 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: to this, Jason, but I'm curious from your perspective. This 690 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: person says, why is the US women's team perennially elite 691 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: while the men are mediocre at best, we obviously have 692 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: the resources to make the women excellent. What's missing with 693 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: the men? I think there's a pretty obvious answer for that, 694 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: but I'm curious. I'll toss it over to you first. 695 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 2: I think it's because of the genesis of women's soccer, right, 696 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: and that what you would say, like, it's not a 697 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: sport that has it's not the same kind of sport. 698 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 2: It's not the same in terms of like the history 699 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: involved and all that kind of stuff, like we weren't 700 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 2: so far behind the eight ball to start with. Well, 701 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: I think that would be one take at least. 702 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's that, and I just think we're 703 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: one of the few countries that invests in the money 704 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: all yeah, in women's athletics. Yeah, so that's the easy 705 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: one to me. I don't think it fully explains though, 706 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: why the men's stink, because clearly financially we have invested 707 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: a lot. 708 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: Uh. 709 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: You know, Shae has a background with the with the 710 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: junior program, and he says that they've kind of cut funds. 711 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: Why don't we go We do have a caller, Shay, 712 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: why don't we go ahead? Julian in California is it 713 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: Julian in California. You're out with Fox Sports radio er 714 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: tours Jason Martin. Let me ask you, Julian, what should 715 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: be realistic expectations for Team USA men's soccer. 716 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 7: First of all, thank you very much for taking my call. 717 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 7: I work in I hear you guys almost every weekend, 718 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 7: so thank you. So a while back, the US men's 719 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 7: soccer team had I think it was coached Klinsman, the Germans, 720 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 7: and they experienced mild success with them. We performed well 721 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 7: against England and Germany. I think it was Brazil the 722 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 7: World Cup in Brazil, maybe eight years ago. I cannot 723 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,919 Speaker 7: remember exactly. Regarding the expectation, I want to say one thing. 724 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 7: When you continually change coaches, you change the dynamics of 725 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 7: the team itself. A team Germany, Uh, there's other teams 726 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 7: where they have extraordinary discipline on the pitch. Okay, it 727 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 7: seems like US players tend to lose their temper. It's 728 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 7: a very when you're on the pitch, it's a very 729 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 7: hostile environment. You get banged up a lot. And it 730 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 7: was really disappointing to see Team USA lose against Panama 731 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 7: when just today they were overwhelmed by Columbia, but unless 732 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 7: they can have a coach that stays there for a 733 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 7: longer tenuere because the interpretation of a team, it comes 734 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 7: to a certain kind of discipline, and unless we find that, 735 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 7: you know, I want to mention one more thing, Mexico 736 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 7: is even I don't know if you're keeping your eye 737 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 7: on it, but Mexico is even worse the United than 738 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 7: the United States right now because over there, their version 739 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 7: or their pastime is soccer. We have baseball here, but 740 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 7: over there, I would say that they're what's going on 741 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 7: over there is a little bit worse and what's going 742 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 7: on over here. But as far as long term expectation, 743 00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 7: I don't know how political it. 744 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: Is, Julian. We're gonna go ahead and respond to some 745 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 1: of what you said up. We appreciate the call, Julian. 746 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, I will say it is an interesting theory 747 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: because about the idea of are we turning over coaches 748 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: too soon? But why I bring it up is because 749 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: one that there's obviously a corollary to that in other sports, 750 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: where you know, you look at the Lakers, you look 751 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: at whoever. But also like one of the few sustained 752 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 1: runs of success was under Bruce Arena ninety eight to six. 753 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: Obviously two thousand and two was a successful run in 754 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: the World Cup. What do you think, Jase, You think 755 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: it's it's crazy to say that that we're maybe turning 756 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: over coaches too quickly. You think that could be it 757 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: at all? 758 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's a point there. I mean, 759 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 2: the same thing with like an NFL team or anybody else. 760 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 2: If you keep turning over coaches, that probably means things 761 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 2: are pretty bad and a lot of times that fruit 762 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 2: is rotten a lot deeper into that tree. But at 763 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 2: the same time, you do you have to find the 764 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 2: right guy, and at least in this case, I do 765 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 2: think that Veraalt had worn out as welcome again, like 766 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, So you have to find somebody, and 767 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 2: I think the goal there just needs to be defined. 768 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: Somebody you can get longevity with, but it has to 769 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 2: be the right person, and that also requires the right 770 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 2: people on the pitch. And well, that hasn't happened enough. 771 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 2: A lot of the guys that you thought were going 772 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 2: to show out and perform, well, they were kind of 773 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 2: falling apart a bit or struggling a bit in their 774 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: own leagues. And then came over here and didn't perform. 775 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torres, Jason Martin. 776 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: We are broadcasting live from the Tirec dot Com studios 777 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: tirac dot com. 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All right, Jason, 787 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: well here we are. We talked about some history in 788 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 1: the NBA at Summer League today where Briannie James made 789 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: his debut, But there's also some history that has happened 790 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: in the NBA in the WNBA excuse me, over the 791 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: last couple days. One. I think Segre definitely mentioned it 792 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: last hour, but Caitlin Clark first rookie ever to record 793 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: a triple double that was in a win over the 794 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: New York Liberty. I bring it up because it's on 795 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: the heels of Angel Reese with her twelfth straight double double, 796 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: which is also a record. I also bring it up 797 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: to say, I don't feel like those two things are 798 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: getting well, maybe the Angel Reese a little bit more 799 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: than the Caitlin Clark thing. I don't feel like either 800 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: of those two things is getting one one hundredth of 801 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: the coverage of some of the stuff that happened a 802 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: few weeks ago when Kennedy Chandler was shoving Get two 803 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: two arms shoving Caitlyn Clark, and Angel Reese was clothesline 804 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: in Caitlyn Clark, and there was all sorts of discourse 805 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: off the court. And I think it really leads back 806 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: to last Sunday. This is when this particular thing struck me. 807 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: And I want to know if you agree last Sunday 808 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: meeting between the Indiana Fever and the Phoenix Mercury. Obviously, 809 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: Diana Razzi, Britney Griner, whatever you think of Brittany grind 810 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: or her politics whatever, she's obviously a very you know, 811 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 1: one of the great all time basketball players. Diana Tarrazi 812 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: much the same. Why bring it up before the game, 813 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: They went on over wapped up Caitlin Clark, kind of 814 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: gave her a hug, you know, kind of gave her 815 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: a pat on the butt. Keep it up, Brook, And 816 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: I was thinking, this is probably what's best for the WNBA, 817 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: where Caitlyn Clark isn't taking out the entire league. It 818 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: also does feel like the league is a lot more 819 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: boring when everybody isn't beefing with Caitlin Clark. Am I 820 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: crazy to say that? J Martin? 821 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,359 Speaker 2: Uh No, I think that's exactly right. Look, I came 822 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 2: from the world of professional wrestling. 823 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so you say that, what did you do in wrestling? 824 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,359 Speaker 2: I have everything other than wressell, Okay. I wrote the storylines, 825 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 2: I booked a talent, I did the play by play, 826 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: I did ring announcing, I managed. I actually wrestled one match, 827 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 2: but it was at what I want to know in 828 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 2: my career. It was a big time set up. It 829 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 2: was a fun thing to do. 830 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: Is it on of YouTube? 831 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 2: It may have been. 832 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: At one point it was your wrestling name. 833 00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 2: It was just me. I never went as a gimmick like. 834 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 2: I never changed it around because I started as a 835 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 2: ring announcer, so there was not really any reason to 836 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 2: switch it. But it's been a large part of my life, 837 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 2: and I wrote about it editorially for years prior to that, 838 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 2: and had written until just a couple of years ago. 839 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 2: I probably kind of ceased a little bit of it, 840 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 2: even though I still keep very very close tabs on 841 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 2: what's going going on. But so Stone called Steve Austin 842 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: right back in the early part of the Attitude era 843 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 2: when he really took off middle of nineteen ninety seven, 844 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: but it really exploded in nineteen ninety eight. The business 845 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,359 Speaker 2: just absolutely went bonkers because you had this one guy 846 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 2: against the world and he was sort of an antihero 847 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: in that yes, the people that you really truly were 848 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 2: supposed to despise came at him, but he had no friends. 849 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 2: This whole thing was don't trust anybody, and it made 850 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: record amounts of money. And one of the big reasons 851 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 2: why is because there was this one guy and it 852 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 2: seemed like every other force was going against him. From 853 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 2: a business and entertainment perspective, that a up what you're 854 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 2: saying about Caitlyn Clark right now. Notice Sabrina Ionescu tonight 855 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 2: after the New York Indiana Game was quoted as saying 856 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: that was their Super Bowl, so effectively trying to throw 857 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 2: shade towards Indiana, like, yeah, they stink you care about 858 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 2: them because of Caitlin Clark. But this is the biggest 859 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 2: game they're going to play this year, and so they 860 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 2: treated it like their Super Bowl. It's nothing to us. 861 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 2: So but the point is well taken. And the reason 862 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 2: why is this they're real close to this going away, 863 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 2: like it's not being talked about anymore. It doesn't have 864 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 2: the same level like I'll I'll go, oh did she play? 865 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: What did she do? Okay, move on, like it's a 866 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 2: lot faster now, like I'm not even really paying attention 867 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: to see what was said. It is. I'm not saying 868 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 2: that it is like the candles being blown out. But 869 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 2: we just got through with July fourth, and so there 870 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 2: were all these fireworks on July fourth, and then on 871 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 2: July fifth, the numb skulls were still out because they 872 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 2: have bought a few too many. And so you've got 873 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 2: a few things going off late at Night's scare your dog. 874 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: I think I just now, during the last commercial break, 875 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,240 Speaker 2: heard a firework. That's the only one that I've heard today. 876 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 2: That's kind of what we're looking at. It's not even 877 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 2: fizzling out, it's just kind of it's dropping back and 878 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,760 Speaker 2: there is a place where the WNBA has found itself 879 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: and they have had this moment with Caitlyn Clark. To 880 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 2: your point, the best thing for the WNBA when it 881 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 2: just comes to like on the floor, is for everybody 882 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 2: to kind of get along to some degree at least 883 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 2: there to be some mutual respect, even if it's super competitive. 884 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 2: But the best thing from an entertainment a business standpoint, 885 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,439 Speaker 2: honestly is to go at her neck. Is to have 886 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,720 Speaker 2: a hero or to have or even a polarizing hero 887 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:58,839 Speaker 2: to some people, and then have everything else aligned against her. 888 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: That's a storyline you can make money with. That's her 889 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 2: chasing goal. That's her chasing the world championship, for example. 890 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 2: If I want to take it back to that pro 891 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: wrestling analogy, like if it just becomes normal, it goes away. 892 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 2: Because here's the thing. Women's basketball has never been interesting 893 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 2: before to the vast swath of people in the country 894 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 2: and to the vast swath that still isn't. But to 895 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 2: those that have like clombed onto it, a lot of 896 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 2: that comes because of the stuff that has nothing to 897 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 2: do with what's on the floor. The most important thing 898 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 2: for the WNBA is growing the game, and you're not 899 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 2: going to do that during the actual basketball games. And 900 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 2: I think that's the biggest issue for them right now 901 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: because we also don't want to see Caitlin Clark mistreated. 902 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 2: But without that story, there's nothing to cover here. 903 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: No, well, there would be one thing to cover if 904 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: she was like, by the way, she just became the 905 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: first roki'd ever have a triple double. She's averaging sixteen 906 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 1: six and seven, and like, look, there's a very feasible 907 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: scenario averaging sixteen six and seven. There's a very feasible 908 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: scenario that she could one day be the best player 909 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: in the league. Don't know if she ever will be whatever, 910 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,520 Speaker 1: But I bring it up because I think the only 911 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: other way that this like stays at the level that 912 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: it would be is if Katel Clark was just amazingly awesome. 913 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: And even then, yeah, I was gonna say, I don't 914 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: know if even that would be the case, but I 915 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: bring it up because she's kind of going through her 916 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: rookie struggles. The team is not bad, but they're not 917 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: good nine to thirteen overall, but she's averaging sixteen points 918 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,760 Speaker 1: per game, which didn't even lead her team, which doesn't 919 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: even lead her team. Excuse me, She's she's shooting from 920 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: the three point line this season just thirty three percent. 921 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 1: She shot thirty nine percent at Iowa, and she's averaging 922 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: close to six turnovers per game. And so you watch 923 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: and there's those moments where Iowa Caitlin Clark comes out. 924 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,720 Speaker 1: And to be clear, I'm not saying that she should 925 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: be able to just step into the WNBA and be 926 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: the same player she was in college. They're by definition 927 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: it's the best players in the world. It's much tougher 928 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: level whatever. But like, I think the things that attracted 929 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,479 Speaker 1: so many people to her as a college player, maybe 930 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,840 Speaker 1: they come out. Maybe they don't, you know, maybe she 931 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: needs better coach, a better coach, maybe she needs better teammates, whatever. 932 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,720 Speaker 1: But like the things that stood out, the really deep threes, 933 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: the you know, the dominant scoring, it's just not there 934 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,400 Speaker 1: right now. And so that's where I think it's a 935 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: tough spot. Is she's playing really well for a rookie. 936 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to Again, I'm not trying to say 937 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: she should be the best player in the league. In 938 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: the league that's a discredit to the professionals, the ones 939 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: that have been around forever. But at the same time, 940 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,439 Speaker 1: when you just have a rookie who's kind of good 941 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: but not great, like pretty much most rookies in most 942 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: sports and most seasons, you have a rookie that's just 943 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: kind of okay, having her ups and downs. On top 944 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,320 Speaker 1: of the fact that there's not the uh talking point 945 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,759 Speaker 1: conversations that we had about again the things that we 946 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,840 Speaker 1: know that we were talking about her race or sexuality. 947 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: Do the players like her? Why are they being so physical? 948 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: Is this just part of a maturation process or are 949 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 1: they targeting her? When you have a good but not 950 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: great player and there's no other controversy to go with it, 951 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 1: it just kind of leads to what we've had the 952 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. 953 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's true. I think that 954 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 2: if she's just average, that's not gonna be good enough. 955 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: Like she does need to be Michael Phelps, she needs 956 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 2: to be Usain Bold, she needs to be a force 957 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 2: where you're just you gotta watch her, you gotta watch 958 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 2: Serena Williams play. You've got to watch certain athletes do 959 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 2: their thing, even if it's not. She's got to be 960 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods. She has to be something like that. If 961 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 2: she is, you know, top ten, top fifteen in the league, 962 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 2: that's to be a nice little career for her. But 963 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 2: that's not going to move the needle eventually. It's just, oh, 964 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 2: she's just a pretty good basketball player. Unless they're maximizing 965 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 2: stuff off the court, and she's you know, hosting Saturday 966 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 2: Night Live and some of those kinds of things, she's 967 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 2: staying relevant outside of that, which is just going to 968 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 2: earn her more vitriol inside the league. But she actually 969 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 2: has to be you know, Pete Marrivich, she has to 970 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 2: be I think your point's exactly right. She has to 971 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,200 Speaker 2: be unique, like her game has to stand out in 972 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 2: a way where you have got to see it. It's 973 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 2: got to be box office. And although she has done 974 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 2: some good things, we're nowhere near the place where when 975 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 2: you if you actually have sat down and watched any 976 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 2: of her games, you're not watching those and you're just like, man, 977 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,280 Speaker 2: this is so unbelievable. I've got to set the DVR 978 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 2: to make sure I see all of these going forward. 979 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 2: It's just she's a rookie in a professional league going 980 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,800 Speaker 2: through her lumps, showing some flashes here and there, but 981 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 2: there's nothing like like when you were watching Wimby last year. 982 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 2: You know, what you're watching is pretty special and you're 983 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,399 Speaker 2: hearing everybody talk about it as contemporaries talking about him. Yeah, 984 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,719 Speaker 2: he might be the best player in the league in 985 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 2: a couple of years, all this kind of stuff, and 986 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 2: he's doing special stuff. And of course it's different way, 987 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 2: but you're getting highlights and all these other kinds of things. 988 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 2: When you're watching Caitlin Clark, You're just you're watching a rookie. 989 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 2: It feels more like Trevor Lawrence to me than it 990 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,800 Speaker 2: does like a Wombiniana or a Lebron James or somebody 991 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 2: like that. What basketball needs her to be, what women's 992 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,359 Speaker 2: basketball needs her to be, is the latter, and right 993 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 2: now she's more the former. 994 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the the I like the comparison to 995 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: Michael Phelps Usain Bolt, because to get people to watch 996 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: a sport that they don't normally watch, right by definition, 997 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: you kind of have to be somebody that they've never 998 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 1: really seen. 999 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, Katie Ladecki. If you just want 1000 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 2: to take it to a female, like when Katie Ladecki swims, 1001 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 2: we pay attention because Katie Ldeci was something special, is 1002 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 2: something special, will always be regarded as something special. It's 1003 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 2: not a sport we usually take inventory of outside of 1004 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,320 Speaker 2: the Olympics. But if Ladecki is even swimming in like 1005 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 2: a US World Championship, we will come out and we 1006 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 2: will probably watch that or will certainly be interested in 1007 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 2: how she finished in things like that. So not just 1008 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 2: male athletes, even though there's more examples of them, because 1009 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,360 Speaker 2: there's just a greater quantity of them. 1010 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: It's all true, and it will be curious. I mean, 1011 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to see, you know, I'm just curious 1012 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: see what happens the rest of the year, because it 1013 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 1: does feel like the sizzles a little bit out. Caitlin 1014 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: Clark maybe plays her best game as a pro, and 1015 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: I know it just happened, but it doesn't feel like 1016 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: people are talking about it the way they were two 1017 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: or three weeks ago. Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin, 1018 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the tireq dot Com studios. Tell you what, Jason, 1019 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: you just mention Trevor Lawrence, Let's go back and talk 1020 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 1: a little football baita let's do it little football. It's 1021 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: coming quick. And there is a pressing question that Jmark 1022 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: gave to me before the show that I simply don't 1023 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,240 Speaker 1: have an answer to. That's next Fox Sports Radio, Welcome 1024 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torres, Jason Martin Broadcasting, 1025 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:15,000 Speaker 1: and I from the Tireck dot Com studios. So we've 1026 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: covered WNBA, we've covered the NBA, we've covered Summer League, 1027 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: we've covered men's soccer. We need to talk a little football, Jason, 1028 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: and obviously the season is coming. And in our pre 1029 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: show prep you asked me a question that I just 1030 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: don't think that I have a great answer to. I mean, 1031 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has a great answer to. But 1032 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: why don't you lay out the question to America that 1033 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 1: you posed to me? 1034 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 2: All Right, So, I think we're in a pretty good 1035 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 2: era of quarterback play in the NFL, and as such, 1036 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,800 Speaker 2: I think that's a really good thing for us as fans, 1037 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 2: as people that cover the For sure, it's good, but 1038 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 2: we're seeing high level quarterback play. Now. There's been a 1039 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 2: lot of great quarterbacks through time, but I do think 1040 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,239 Speaker 2: there's a lot of recognizable names right now and a 1041 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,879 Speaker 2: lot of guys that we love to watch play the game. 1042 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 2: So here is the scenario. I'm gonna give you the 1043 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 2: opportunity right now to start an NFL franchise, and you're 1044 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 2: gonna start it with a quarterback, not another player, although 1045 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 2: you know that'd be a different discussion if you wanted 1046 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: to try that. But you can pick any quarterback in 1047 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 2: the league to start your franchise with right now, except 1048 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. He's out. He's the one guy that you 1049 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:46,279 Speaker 2: cannot select. So with that being said, who do you 1050 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 2: go with? 1051 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 1: So I thought about this a lot, and there are 1052 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 1: pretty big holes. And I know this is why this 1053 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: is a great question, because there are pretty big holes 1054 00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: in everybody's arguments. Do you want to share yours first, 1055 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: or do you want me to go? 1056 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 2: So I had two guys that stood out immediately to me, 1057 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 2: but I maybe going the road let's travel by. But 1058 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 2: I'll explain why. I'm not going to name both of 1059 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 2: them in case you want to take the other one. 1060 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 2: But I'll let you know if you pick the same guy, 1061 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 2: I will take CJ. Stroud Woo at his age, what 1062 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 2: he did last year was not gimmickry. It's not something 1063 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 2: that like yes, defenses are going to try to find 1064 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 2: ways to stop him. But you don't stop somebody that 1065 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,319 Speaker 2: has that quick a release and it's that accurate with 1066 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 2: the football. He is somebody that doesn't necessarily have to 1067 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,279 Speaker 2: rely on pure athleticism to do everything. He's not out 1068 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 2: there to run for two hundred yards and so you 1069 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 2: can stack it up and cause some trouble in certain 1070 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 2: matchups and things like that. CJ. Stroud is just a 1071 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 2: top flight quarterback who just put forth one of the 1072 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,720 Speaker 2: great rookie seas that we've ever seen. And as you mentioned, 1073 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 2: there are limitations to every one of these arguments. So 1074 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 2: if you wanted to counter me, all you would need 1075 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 2: to say is, yeah, well he had a great rookie year. 1076 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 2: What if he has a sophomore slump? Absolutely true. I 1077 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 2: look at the best thing about CJ. Shrodd and why 1078 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 2: I like him so much. He did this with Nico 1079 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 2: Collins and Tank Dell and Demiko Ryans in his first 1080 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: year at head coach. Like he didn't walk into the 1081 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, he didn't walk into the Miami Dolphins. 1082 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 2: He didn't go into a place to have all these 1083 00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 2: ready made weapons that were proven. He helped make them weapons, 1084 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 2: and they became names that we knew who were by 1085 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 2: the end of the year. But you look at his 1086 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 2: age and you're telling me to start a franchise after 1087 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 2: what I saw last year, feeling like something that can 1088 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 2: be duplicated, not something that's an aberration that we'll never 1089 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 2: see again. That's why I go with him first. 1090 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: So it's funny you said that there were going to 1091 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 1: be two names that you could have gone with either one, 1092 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 1: and it's funny because that was not either one of 1093 00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: the two. And what I would say is, listen, we 1094 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: all loved it, but I would lean more towards the 1095 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: It was one year, it's probably going to get better, 1096 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: and he can probably be in that conversation. I just 1097 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: personally cannot put him in there yet. So I thought 1098 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: it would be between two guys that have actually relatively 1099 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,919 Speaker 1: different resumes, and I'll give you the guy that I'm 1100 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: not gonna choose first. 1101 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 2: First. 1102 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 1: What I felt like was the most obvious, and it 1103 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: was Josh Allen has every size, speed, heightweight measurement you know, 1104 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: is awesome, is durable. For a guy that takes as 1105 00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: many hits as he does, it's kind of incredible. Now, obviously, 1106 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,400 Speaker 1: look I think the two things that stand out about him. 1107 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 1: He certainly turned the ball over quite a bit last 1108 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: year and regressed in that category. And I think the 1109 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: other thing with Josh Allen, but I think it's more 1110 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,959 Speaker 1: of a byproduct of the Bills than it is just him. 1111 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: Is they just haven't like they don't. I still like, 1112 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't think they still have a signature win in 1113 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: the Josh Allen Am I like? And I'll get to 1114 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: my other guy in a minute, but am I crazy? 1115 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 2: Is there? Like? 1116 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: What is the signature win of the Josh Allen era? 1117 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 1: Of course, outside of the near the near win over 1118 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: the Kansas. 1119 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 2: City, that's the best. That's the best win of the 1120 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 2: whole era. That's that's the most memorable thing and the 1121 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 2: most impressive thing that happened was that. And yeah, I 1122 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 2: don't know what the other one is. I mean, there's 1123 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 2: been some great performances, but there's not anything where I 1124 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 2: just go back and remember, Man, that's the best game 1125 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 2: I've ever seen, the one that I saw that was 1126 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 2: the best, the one that people were saying that my 1127 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 2: the best NFL game in twenty twenty five years. That's 1128 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 2: the one they lost. But that still is kind of 1129 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 2: the apex of the whole. 1130 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Experiment exactly, and so that's why it's hard. He was 1131 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: not my other guy, by the way, well so, and 1132 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: my other other guy might not be your guy either, 1133 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 1: but the guy that I will go with. And again 1134 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: for people just joining us, the question that Jamart post 1135 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:25,320 Speaker 1: to me was Patrick Mahomes is miles ahead of everybody 1136 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 1: else right now. Obviously all the Super Bowl championships, all 1137 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: the Super you know, the one Super Bowl runner up. 1138 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: What is it five straight AFC championship games? Jaymart? Is 1139 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,880 Speaker 1: it six or five? Whatever? So j Mart asked me, 1140 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: if you're starting a franchise today, who is the quarterback 1141 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: that you take if you're not taking Patrick Mahomes. And 1142 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is controversial. I don't know 1143 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: if this is your other guy, but I think to me, 1144 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 1: the answer is the only guy in the NFL that 1145 01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: has beaten him on the biggest stage, and that's Joe Burrow. 1146 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 2: And I that's that was my other guy. 1147 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, see and obviously, look, I think you know, uh, 1148 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: there's certainly a case for Josh Allen, there's certainly a 1149 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: case for Lamar Jackson. I get all that, But when 1150 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 1: I look at Joe Burrow, Listen, I mean the question, Look, 1151 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: all of these guys have some sort of hole in 1152 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 1: their resume, and you know, for Joe Burrow, it's that 1153 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 1: he has seemingly been unable to stay healthy. I mean, 1154 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: and now I don't want to say he's been unable 1155 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: to stay healthy, but two season ending injuries and even 1156 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: in the off season. Uh, you know a few years ago, 1157 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: what was it a was it a pendicitis? Was it 1158 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: was that? What it was? I can't even remember, mm hmm, 1159 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: but that's right, Yeah, just you know, can't stay healthy. 1160 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,880 Speaker 1: Obviously his rookie year cut short by the knee injury, 1161 01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: and then of course last year cut short by the 1162 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 1: wrist injury. And by the way, you know, you talk 1163 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 1: to people who who who follow this stuff, not follow 1164 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 1: this stuff, but I've seen reports from doctors that say that, 1165 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, the the comeback of from this wrist injury 1166 01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: is not one hundred percent, Like it's not like you 1167 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: get this surgery, you're back to the do that you were. 1168 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 1: There could be complications, but at the end of the day, 1169 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: there's only one guy that has gone head to head 1170 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 1: with Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs, outside of Tom Brady 1171 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: obviously who's obviously no longer in the NFL and won 1172 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: a game against him. And oh, by the way, the 1173 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: next year, we know that in the AFC Championship game 1174 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,640 Speaker 1: they dueled, they were both great and one had to 1175 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 1: come out on top. It wasn't like some of these 1176 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 1: other guys you know, Lamar Jackson this year, who struggled 1177 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 1: on the biggest stage, Josh Allen, who in previous years 1178 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 1: has struggled on the biggest stage. And so to me, 1179 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is the guy. I'll tell you what, j Martin, 1180 01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: I want to toss it over the news desk to disager. 1181 01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,919 Speaker 1: We'll come back and we will continue this conversation because 1182 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 1: it is a fascinating one. Disager. The floor is yours, 1183 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you, gentlemen. 1184 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 6: Unfortunately, the only NFL story today that Vikings fourth round 1185 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 6: defensive back Kyrie Jackson died in a car accident. Jackson 1186 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,400 Speaker 6: played for Oregon last year after two seasons at Alabama. 1187 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,800 Speaker 6: In the WNBA come back win for Indiana over New 1188 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 6: York eighty three seventy eight, Kaitlin Clark with a triple double, 1189 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 6: first by a rookie in league history. She finished with 1190 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,960 Speaker 6: nineteen points, twelve rebounds, thirteen assists. The Fever had trailed 1191 01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 6: by eleven points in the fourth quarter today, and New 1192 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 6: York's record was seventeen and three. Minnesota with a home 1193 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 6: win tonight against Washington seventy four to sixty seven. Washington 1194 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 6: five and seventeen now four WNBA games tomorrow and in 1195 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 6: two weeks, the US Olympic women's team has its sendoff 1196 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 6: game against a team of WNBA stars, and that league 1197 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,480 Speaker 6: will then be off for about a month. The Sacramento 1198 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 6: Kings acquired Damar Derosan. He'll get a three year contract 1199 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 6: worth about seventy five million dollars. Harrison Barnes goes to 1200 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 6: the Spurs in the sign and trade. The Hornets gave 1201 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,720 Speaker 6: Miles Bridges a three year deal where seventy five million dollars. 1202 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 6: He averaged twenty one points per game last season. The 1203 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 6: seventy six ers signed Caleb Martin to a four year contract. 1204 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 6: At Copa America, the quarterfinals were on FS one tonight, 1205 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 6: first off in Arizona. Forty thousand in attendance to watch 1206 01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 6: Columbia win again five nothing over Panamahamas. Rodriguez go and 1207 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 6: two assists Colombia's unbeaten in his last twenty seven games 1208 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 6: over the last two and a half years. Then in 1209 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 6: Las Vegas, an ugly one went to penalty kicks and 1210 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 6: Uruguay on pks eliminated Brazil. Brazil star Venetius Junior was 1211 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 6: out tonight due to yellow cards, but in the ninety 1212 01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 6: minutes there were forty one fouls total in this game. 1213 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,320 Speaker 6: So coming up Tuesday night in the semifinals Argentina against 1214 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 6: Canada on FS one from New Jersey. Wednesday night, Columbia 1215 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 6: in Charlotte against Uruguay. This tournament is in the US, 1216 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 6: not in South America, with games on Fox and FS one. 1217 01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 6: The US was one of the six guest teams in 1218 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,320 Speaker 6: what is normally the South American Confederation Championship. At the Euros, 1219 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:45,320 Speaker 6: England won its quarterfinal on penalty kicks against Switzerland. Each 1220 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 6: team had scored late in regulation, it was still one 1221 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 6: to one after overtime, England five for five on its kicks. 1222 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 6: The Swiss were stopped on their first and that was costly. 1223 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 6: The Swiss still have not defeated England since nineteen eighty one, 1224 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 6: zero to ten with four ties, and Switzerland still has 1225 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 6: never advanced to the semifinals at any major tournament. The 1226 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 6: Netherlands beat turkeya two to one with goals in the seventh, 1227 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 6: seventieth and seventy sixth minutes attendance with seventy thousand at 1228 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 6: the Berlin Olympic Stadium. At Wimbledon, number one Egas Fiantek 1229 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 6: lost in three sets, six to two in the third 1230 01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 6: Coco Goss fourth round matches tomorrow against fellow American Emma Navarro. 1231 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 6: Men's number one Novak Djokovic advanced to the fourth round. 1232 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 6: The PGA is at the John Deer Classic in Illinois. 1233 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 6: Davis Thompson leads by two. The next live golf event 1234 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 6: is in just over a week in Spain, couple weeks 1235 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 6: away as the British Open. As for late night MLB action, 1236 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 6: its top of the ninth and the Padres are in 1237 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 6: a four to four tie now against Arizona. San Diego 1238 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,080 Speaker 6: had trailed four to one in the seventh inning. The 1239 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 6: Dodgers beat Milwaukee five to three, show Hey Otani with 1240 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 6: his twenty eighth homer, which leads the National League. Otani, 1241 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,520 Speaker 6: according to stat Zinc, the only MLB player in the 1242 01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,120 Speaker 6: modern era to all in the same game, draw, multiple walk, 1243 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 6: get hit by a pitch, hit a triple hit, a 1244 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,880 Speaker 6: home run, steal a base as well, all of that. 1245 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,920 Speaker 6: Tonight in the victory, Colorado beat Kansas City three to one, 1246 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 6: Atlanta over Philadelphia five one, beating Ranger Suarez, who had 1247 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 6: been ten and two Oakland a nineteen eight winner over Baltimore, 1248 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 6: and the Yankees beat Boston fourteen to four on FS one. 1249 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 1: Today. 1250 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 6: Rookie Ben Rice of New York three homers, seven RBIs. 1251 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,360 Speaker 6: This guy started the year at double A. Rice has 1252 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 6: been in the major leagues three and a half weeks. 1253 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 6: The Yankees had lost fourteen of eighteen, but got an 1254 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 6: easy win against the rival Red Sox today. 1255 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 1: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve the Sager. 1256 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 1: Disaga will rejoin us in just a few minutes for 1257 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: his extended update about twelve forty five or so Eastern time. Jamar, 1258 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 1: let's get back to the NFL. So we were talking 1259 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,479 Speaker 1: before we got to the saga, the idea of if 1260 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: you were going to start a franchise right now in 1261 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 1: the NFL and Patrick Mahomes is off the board, Essentially, 1262 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 1: you have the number two pick of all the quarterbacks available. 1263 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: Who do you take j. Martin made the argument for CJ. Stroud, 1264 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 1: but really the genesis of the argument is that really 1265 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 1: everybody has something that's missing on their resume. Josh Allen 1266 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 1: doesn't have the big wins. Lamar Jackson really doesn't have 1267 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 1: the big wins to speak of either in the postseason. 1268 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 2: CJ. 1269 01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Stroud is young, and the guy that I picked, Joe Burrow, 1270 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: is the only guy that The reason I picked Joe 1271 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,080 Speaker 1: Burrow for people who are just joining us is because 1272 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: he does have the big wins. He has the only 1273 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: head to head win of anybody in the NFL right 1274 01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 1: now against Patrick Mahomes. Easily could have won the AFC 1275 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 1: Championship Game the following year in Arrowhead did not, but 1276 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't because he had some sort of bad game 1277 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 1: as much as it was just simply, hey, somebody's gotta lose. 1278 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Had a great win the week before in Buffalo head 1279 01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 1: to head with Josh Allen, So that was my pick. Jason, 1280 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 1: I want you to expand your thoughts after what I 1281 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 1: had to say. 1282 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like I said, I went with Stroud and 1283 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 2: my other guy was Burrow. The reason why I went 1284 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 2: with Stroud over Burrow is because I'm not so sure 1285 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 2: Burrow isn't injury prone, and injury prone is not something 1286 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 2: you've really said about Burrow. But Burrow was never healthy 1287 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,679 Speaker 2: this past year. We remember how his rookie year ended. 1288 01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,559 Speaker 2: He's been banged up a lot. I'm not saying he's 1289 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,960 Speaker 2: made a glass. I'm saying I am concerned about his durability, 1290 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 2: and so that that bothers me enough he's not out there, 1291 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 2: then I can't start my franchise with him because I 1292 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 2: can't win if he's not on the field. So in 1293 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,760 Speaker 2: terms of him as a leader, in terms of what 1294 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,759 Speaker 2: he can do with the football, in terms of everything else, 1295 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:46,839 Speaker 2: I think it's him. But his durability is a worry 1296 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,519 Speaker 2: for me. So that's really the only thing I look at. 1297 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 2: And then I do want to see now that Brian 1298 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 2: Callahan's a head coach in Tennessee. You know, a guy 1299 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 2: that worked with Burrow and was very popular and was 1300 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 2: a large part of the offense there in Cincinnati. I 1301 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 2: want to see what their offense does now that they're 1302 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,240 Speaker 2: gonna have some new things happening. We're gonna see maybe 1303 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 2: more from Zach Taylor than we have in the past. 1304 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 2: We'll see, but I want to see that as well. 1305 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 2: But I just think that the durability concern is something 1306 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 2: that Trump's a lot for me. I just want to 1307 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 2: make sure that he's going to be upright and available. 1308 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,559 Speaker 2: And that's why, again, I look at Stroud and I say, 1309 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 2: between the two, even though Burrow is certainly more accomplished, 1310 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 2: C J. Stroud feels like Sky is a limit for 1311 01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 2: him right now, and I haven't seen the injury issues. 1312 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And to be clear, that's what makes this question 1313 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 1: tough is because Joe Burrow has the injury issues. If 1314 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 1: if Joe Burrow was healthy and just coming off a 1315 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 1: little bit of a down year, I think you would 1316 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,640 Speaker 1: still take Joe Burrow. And I don't even know that 1317 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 1: it would be debatable. Producer Shay, I see you in 1318 01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 1: the corner. There are you ready to try? You got 1319 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 1: some hot take here. 1320 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 5: I don't wrong with Will Levice or what but as 1321 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,160 Speaker 5: a Browns fan, I really regret saying this, but I 1322 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 5: would have to be Lamar Jackson for me. I mean, 1323 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 5: three quarterbacks have won an MVP since twenty eighteen, and 1324 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 5: he's one of them. We're going to talk about beating Mahomes. Yeah, 1325 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,280 Speaker 5: he's three and one against him. But the last time 1326 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 5: they played, which was in twenty twenty one, I'm pretty 1327 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,680 Speaker 5: sure it was twenty twenty one, Lamar Jackson ended up 1328 01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 5: beating Mahomes too. So if we want to talk about resume, 1329 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 5: I think Lamar Jackson definitely has it. He's the reigning MVP. 1330 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:26,040 Speaker 5: He definitely is that multifaceted QB who can run, who 1331 01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 5: can throw. And I know everyone is going to say, oh, 1332 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,680 Speaker 5: we are we sure he could throw blah blah blah 1333 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 5: blah blah, but he can't throw like we've seen it. 1334 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 5: And there's a reason why the Ravens are looked at 1335 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 5: as a Super Bowl contention team. And I just think 1336 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 5: that when it comes to players like Lamar I compare 1337 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,840 Speaker 5: him a lot to Josh Allen. He doesn't have the 1338 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 5: big playmaking ability that Josh Allen has with his big 1339 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,559 Speaker 5: time throws, but he makes up with that with his 1340 01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,880 Speaker 5: quick his quick. He literally I think he has one 1341 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,640 Speaker 5: of the fastest. I'm pretty sure Mahomes be and that 1342 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 5: beats him. But getting rid of the ball, Lamar Jackson 1343 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,799 Speaker 5: is one of the best in the end l currently 1344 01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,280 Speaker 5: at that I don't have the stat right in. 1345 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 1: Front of me, let me jump in on this. So 1346 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 1: a couple of things on Lamar Jackson. I want j 1347 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,640 Speaker 1: Martz take then we'll go back to you, Shay. So, 1348 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 1: first off, I don't think it's it's terrible because and 1349 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,599 Speaker 1: I don't it's not terry. You make a very compelling point. 1350 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 1: And I think the thing that I keep going back to, 1351 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: and I know Jay Mar and I have talked about 1352 01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:23,680 Speaker 1: this over the last six to eight months, is that 1353 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,840 Speaker 1: I don't blame him for the loss to k C 1354 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,679 Speaker 1: as much as I do Todd Munkin in the play calling. 1355 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 1: It was just a weird game in which like they 1356 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 1: just stopped running the football for no real reason. And 1357 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,240 Speaker 1: so I don't I'm not really like anti Lamar. Two 1358 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 1: things do concern me, though, is one, even in his 1359 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 1: playoff wins, you know, he has not been great, you know, 1360 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,160 Speaker 1: ten of thirty two passing or you know ten of 1361 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 1: twenty two passing this year, did have quite a few 1362 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,360 Speaker 1: rushing yards against the Houston Texans. But the other thing 1363 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,360 Speaker 1: that I think worries me a little bit is just 1364 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,640 Speaker 1: the last two of the last three years he key 1365 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,160 Speaker 1: didn't stay healthy, you know, And so maybe I'm overrating it, 1366 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: maybe I'm whatever, but I just sit there and say 1367 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:17,960 Speaker 1: that like it's it's the lack of huge wins with 1368 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 1: the fact that he hasn't been healthy that concerns me. 1369 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 1: Where Burrow does have the big playoff wins, including the 1370 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,519 Speaker 1: head to head wins with Patrick Mahomes. Shit, I'm gonna 1371 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 1: get it back to you, but real quick, j Mart, 1372 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,960 Speaker 1: what do you think of Lamar Jackson's candidacy as the 1373 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,679 Speaker 1: guy that would be number two behind Mahomes. 1374 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I certainly think a lot of people would 1375 01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,560 Speaker 2: choose him. For me, I just haven't seen the postseason 1376 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,719 Speaker 2: success yet. It's not because I don't think he's capable 1377 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 2: of it. But you talked about that weird game. I mean, 1378 01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 2: I saw him completely shut down against the Titans a 1379 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:46,479 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. I've just seen him not play 1380 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 2: his best football in the playoffs. I've seen there there 1381 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 2: seemed to all of a sudden, be schemes to beat 1382 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,599 Speaker 2: him that couldn't beat him in the regular season. I'm 1383 01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 2: trying to figure out why that is, Like, yes, you're 1384 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 2: gonna match up with better teams in the playoffs, but 1385 01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,040 Speaker 2: a lot of those teams you've already seen in the 1386 01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 2: regular season it was as well. It just seems like 1387 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 2: you can knock him off in the postseason. You can 1388 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,960 Speaker 2: knock him off his confidence plateau where they stopped doing 1389 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,720 Speaker 2: You've talked about them abandoning the run, which was just 1390 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,599 Speaker 2: baffling in that game against the Chiefs. Well, they seem 1391 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:18,520 Speaker 2: to just get kind of bullied around in the playoffs 1392 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 2: and Lamar just doesn't look like himself, and so that 1393 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,839 Speaker 2: concerns me. The injury thing I didn't even think about. 1394 01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 2: I don't go to that he can't throw and all 1395 01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,719 Speaker 2: these other kinds of things. I just think for some reason, 1396 01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 2: it just hasn't clicked in the playoffs, and that concerns 1397 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,760 Speaker 2: me a little bit at this stage in his career. Eventually, 1398 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,120 Speaker 2: it's the same thing with Josh Allen, like eventually I 1399 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 2: need to see you do this in the playoffs or 1400 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,280 Speaker 2: we need to start having a different conversation. Like think 1401 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,040 Speaker 2: about how Peyton Manning was talked about prior to beating 1402 01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 2: Rex Grossman and getting that first Super Bowl. Yes he'd 1403 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,559 Speaker 2: beat Rex Grossman, but he did win a Super Bowl. 1404 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 2: Finally he got that monkey off his back and that 1405 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,759 Speaker 2: was a big deal. And right now you've got guys, 1406 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,799 Speaker 2: particularly the two guys I just mentioned Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. 1407 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:02,760 Speaker 2: Those are two guys where we're starting to look at 1408 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 2: the watch like, all right, win or when is this 1409 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 2: gonna happen? In Buffalo you have the buffer zone that 1410 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 2: is Sean McDermott. You don't have that in Baltimore because 1411 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,000 Speaker 2: John Harball is widely respected. 1412 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 1: Shay, you got about twenty seconds you got any last 1413 01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,639 Speaker 1: rebuttals on behalf of your boy Lamar. 1414 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 5: I mean I was just gonna say, I literally put Lamar, 1415 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, and Josh Allen kind of all in the 1416 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 5: same tier. And then in the end you said to yourself, 1417 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 5: Mahomes is so far ahead of all these guys that 1418 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,519 Speaker 5: putting them in the same tier isn't necessarily bad. They'd 1419 01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,320 Speaker 5: be elite in any basically, they're elite quarterbacks. Don't get 1420 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,600 Speaker 5: me wrong, But yeah, I mean, I feel like you 1421 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 5: could just throw them all in and they all would 1422 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 5: work out. They have pros and cons. We'll see, I 1423 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:39,400 Speaker 5: don't know. 1424 01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 1: We'll see this year. 1425 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 2: Though, how they all play out. 1426 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,679 Speaker 1: We will see this year because Mahomes is clearly walking 1427 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 1: in with the crown on his head, and we'll see 1428 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,439 Speaker 1: if anybody can knock it off. Fox Sports Radio Aeron 1429 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,160 Speaker 1: towards Jason mart will come back the saga with his 1430 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:56,559 Speaker 1: extended update. That's next, Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back everybody, 1431 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,879 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Aeron towards Jason Martin broadcast ding live 1432 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,679 Speaker 1: the diireck dot Com studios, as we do every week 1433 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 1: around this time, let's toss it over the news desk 1434 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Steve Desager for his extended update. All yours to Seger. Guys. 1435 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 6: All these NBA contracts and signings we've been hearing about 1436 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 6: in recent days became official because today the NBA's new 1437 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,719 Speaker 6: league year open. The new salary caps about one hundred 1438 01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 6: and forty million dollars per team. Lebron James is going 1439 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,559 Speaker 6: to be making over fifty million dollars on his new 1440 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 6: two year contract to stay with the Lakers. Technically it's 1441 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,400 Speaker 6: one year plus a player option. There's a no trade clause. 1442 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 6: Shamshurani of the Athletics is there's also a fifteen percent 1443 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 6: trade kicker. But people had been speculating he's going to 1444 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 6: take less money. In fact, he could have been making 1445 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 6: fifty two million per year. It'll be just under fifty 1446 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 6: one mili so that they can stay literally forty five 1447 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 6: thousand dollars under the second apron the Lakers and avoid 1448 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,559 Speaker 6: that extra dex Okay, yeah, so he's not giving back 1449 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,599 Speaker 6: a whole lot, but yeah, is he taking last guys? 1450 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 2: Right? Didn't he have three guys he was willing to take? 1451 01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? Less more really less? Yeah exactly. I think we 1452 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:08,439 Speaker 1: need to talk about that a little bit now, our 1453 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 1: three boys. But continue. 1454 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Bronni James did score four points in his NBA 1455 01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,599 Speaker 6: Summer League debut today is the Lakers lost in San 1456 01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,639 Speaker 6: Francisco to Sacramento. It'll be Lakers against Golden State there 1457 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,760 Speaker 6: on Sunday. And yes, summer league games are in the 1458 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 6: Bay Area for a few days, and the brief Salt 1459 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 6: Lake City Summer League will be Monday through Wednesday next week. 1460 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,479 Speaker 6: Then it's what we know the Las Vegas Summer League 1461 01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 6: with all thirty NBA teams July twelfth through twenty second. However, 1462 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 6: until the twelfth, USA basketball is going to be in 1463 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,639 Speaker 6: Las Vegas and those stars have arrived. The US Olympic 1464 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,680 Speaker 6: roster for this summer in Paris includes Lebron James and 1465 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,600 Speaker 6: Anthony Davis, Jason Tatum and Drew Holliday, Kevin Durant, on 1466 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 6: the team again, Steph Curry, Joel Embiid playing for the US, 1467 01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 6: Anthony Edwards and others. 1468 01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 1: There will be a USA. 1469 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 6: Exhibition game on FS one against Canada next week, and 1470 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,720 Speaker 6: then from Abu Dhabi on FS one it'll be the 1471 01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,840 Speaker 6: US against Australia and Serbia in overseas tune ups getting 1472 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 6: ready for the Olympics, and guys. Tomorrow, there are four 1473 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:19,839 Speaker 6: games to decide the last four spots for the Paris 1474 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,240 Speaker 6: Men's basketball tournament. There have been Olympic qualifying tournaments going 1475 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 6: on at these four locations all week, and the finals 1476 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 6: of each of the four tourneys are tomorrow. Greece with 1477 01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,960 Speaker 6: Jannisntenekunpo is hosting one of those games. 1478 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:32,480 Speaker 1: Tomorrow. 1479 01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 6: They eliminated Luka Donsich and Slovenia today. Luca will not 1480 01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,240 Speaker 6: be in this summer's Olympics. In fact, it was a 1481 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 6: blowout win for Greece ninety six sixty eight. Greece led 1482 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,400 Speaker 6: by eighteen points after the first quarter. Yana scored thirteen 1483 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 6: and twenty one minutes of this blowout. Luka Donsig finished 1484 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,960 Speaker 6: with twenty one points, five assists and ten turnovers. So 1485 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,680 Speaker 6: Sunday it's grease against Croatia. Winner goes to the Olympics. 1486 01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,360 Speaker 6: Croatians star this week has been a Vitza Zubats of 1487 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 6: the Clippers twenty five points today in their victory ten 1488 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 6: of ten shooting from the floor. They edged Dominican Republic 1489 01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,519 Speaker 6: eighty to seventy seven as the dr missed a three 1490 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 6: point try at the end. Spain is hosting this week 1491 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 6: and will be in a final tomorrow. It won its 1492 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,840 Speaker 6: semi again a win over Finland eighty one seventy four. 1493 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 6: Willie earn On Gomez twenty eight points in twenty one minutes. 1494 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 6: So tomorrow Spain hosts Bahamas. The Bahamas could be going 1495 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 6: to the Olympics. They won against Lebanon eighty nine to 1496 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,679 Speaker 6: seventy two today on their roster DeAndre eight in another 1497 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 6: good game twenty four points fifteen rebounds. Buddy Healed had 1498 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,679 Speaker 6: nineteen points ten assists, and also for the Bahamas today 1499 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,840 Speaker 6: Eric Gordon with thirteen points. Bahamas at Spain tomorrow, winner 1500 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,639 Speaker 6: goes to the Olympics. Also in men's hoops, Puerto Rico 1501 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,639 Speaker 6: will be hosting a game Latvia tomorrow as well. Puerto 1502 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,719 Speaker 6: Rico will be hosting Lithuania because Lithuania. Italy is easily 1503 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:59,080 Speaker 6: a Dementa Sabonis eight rebounds. Puerto Rico defeated Mexico by twenty. Tonight, 1504 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,040 Speaker 6: Brazil at Latvia is the final of those four games tomorrow, 1505 01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 6: each one semis. Today Brazil eliminated Philippines, which is a 1506 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 6: basketball crazy country. Latvia defeated Cameroon Davis Berton's twelve points. Again, 1507 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 6: the four winners tomorrow get the last four spots in Paris. 1508 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,439 Speaker 6: This month, eight teams have already qualified, including the US 1509 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 6: and the Yankees beat the Boston Red Sox today fourteen 1510 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,759 Speaker 6: to four. A rookie named Ben Rice had three homers 1511 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,400 Speaker 6: for the Yankees seven RBIs. In fact, according to Stadzinc, 1512 01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,759 Speaker 6: he's the first player in the history of Major League 1513 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 6: Baseball to hit a leadoff homer and two three run 1514 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,840 Speaker 6: shots in the same game. This was only his seventeenth 1515 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 6: game of his career. Meanwhile, a first inning homer for 1516 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,720 Speaker 6: the Braves Marcella Zuna tonight and they beat Philadelphia five 1517 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 6: to one. Thoughsuna twenty three homers seventy two RBIs back 1518 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:51,600 Speaker 6: to you. 1519 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,519 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Steve Sager. De Saga will be 1520 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,080 Speaker 1: with us for one more hour. And he actually just 1521 01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,160 Speaker 1: sit on a bunch of stuff that we will be covering. 1522 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,800 Speaker 1: Take it up till two Eastern, will come back. We 1523 01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:06,360 Speaker 1: will talk about both Bronnie James's debut as well as 1524 01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:09,120 Speaker 1: what it means for the state of the Lakers. Also, 1525 01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:13,120 Speaker 1: he mentioned Team USA meets up in Vegas. A lot 1526 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,120 Speaker 1: to discuss there as well. One hour left Fox Sports Radio. 1527 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:26,120 Speaker 1: Welcome in Everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday or Sunday, 1528 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:30,080 Speaker 1: depending on where you are. Erin Tords Jason Martin broadcasting 1529 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,320 Speaker 1: live from the tyreck dot com studios. Tyreck dot Com 1530 01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,479 Speaker 1: will help you get there. An unmatched selection, fast, free shipping, 1531 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 1: free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers. 1532 01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 1: Tyreck dot com the way tire buying should be aeron Torris. 1533 01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 1: Jason Martin taking you up till two a m. Eastern time. 1534 01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 1: Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Frado Show will follow us. 1535 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,759 Speaker 1: Bernie Fratto, of course, broadcasting live from Vegas. Summer League 1536 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: is coming to Vegas this week, but Summer League started 1537 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 1: with the California Classic on Saturday in the Bay Area. 1538 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,360 Speaker 1: King's team beats the Lakers one oh eight ninety four. 1539 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 1: But the story, of course was the debut of Bronnie James. 1540 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:24,080 Speaker 1: Four points on two of nine, shooting two rebounds to assists, 1541 01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,320 Speaker 1: two steals. I believe those are all correct. The box 1542 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,160 Speaker 1: scores taking a minute to load here. I know it's 1543 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,519 Speaker 1: two for U two for nine from the field. Let 1544 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 1: me see if I can confirm those stats. I'd take 1545 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 1: a look really quick. Four points, two rebounds to assist, 1546 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 1: one steal, two of nine shooting zero for three from 1547 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:46,439 Speaker 1: the three point line. J Mart Brownie made his debut. 1548 01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,320 Speaker 1: Got a lot of thoughts, but I'll toss it over 1549 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:53,600 Speaker 1: to you first for your thoughts on Saturday in the 1550 01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:54,120 Speaker 1: Bay Area. 1551 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:55,839 Speaker 2: I don't know if I have a lot of thoughts. 1552 01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:58,599 Speaker 2: I mean, if I had five thoughts, i'd have more 1553 01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,160 Speaker 2: points than Bruno. 1554 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 1: If you had three shots, more than is three thoughts 1555 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,639 Speaker 1: would be more than his shots made. 1556 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,720 Speaker 2: It's true. Look, he is going to get a ton 1557 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 2: of coverage. And we understand this. We We've been in 1558 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:16,439 Speaker 2: this business for a while. It's not a surprise. At 1559 01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:19,519 Speaker 2: some point it's gonna be enough, and then it's gonna 1560 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 2: be too much. It's gonna be people are gonna be like, 1561 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 2: all right, enough with this, and then it's gonna be. 1562 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 2: It might then turn into go Away style kind of stuff, 1563 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,960 Speaker 2: but right now it's gonna be compelling to a certain segment, 1564 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 2: both that are interested in it and want to see 1565 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 2: it fail miserably those that are gonna hate watch it 1566 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,599 Speaker 2: or hate listen to commentary about it. You know, there 1567 01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,839 Speaker 2: was a guy in a game that scored thirty two points. 1568 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,439 Speaker 2: He's not talked about anywhere. You gotta look like five 1569 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 2: or six paragraphs into the story about the game to 1570 01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:52,640 Speaker 2: even get to him. I mean, I was quite a 1571 01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 2: performance for him in Summer League in his first game 1572 01:22:55,520 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 2: as well. But there's six or seven different stories being 1573 01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,000 Speaker 2: written and insiders and experts breaking down every dribble of 1574 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 2: Bronnie James twenty two minutes on the floor and the 1575 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 2: four points that he scored, and like I told you, 1576 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,400 Speaker 2: like yes, man got a headline on their website. It's 1577 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 2: like filthy move by Bronnie James on this jumper. It's like, right, well, 1578 01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,760 Speaker 2: I mean that was one of his two buckets in 1579 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:22,880 Speaker 2: the game. So I'm glad that he was able to 1580 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:27,640 Speaker 2: pull a move there. I just the problem is the 1581 01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,960 Speaker 2: young man's game just can't back up the level of coverage. 1582 01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:34,960 Speaker 2: It's gonna get and that's gonna become very tedious, very quickly, 1583 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 2: and we'll see, We're gonna have to see how it progresses. 1584 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 2: But we already knew going in he didn't deserve the opportunity, 1585 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,559 Speaker 2: which is why when JJ Reddick comes out and says, 1586 01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:51,800 Speaker 2: Bronni earned this, I'm just like, all right, man, you 1587 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,639 Speaker 2: cash the check that lebron handed you backstage, or maybe 1588 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,240 Speaker 2: that's just the check that you're going to get to 1589 01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 2: be the head coach at the Lakers. And because no 1590 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 2: one's buying that, Like I know, Bronnie is sitting next 1591 01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 2: to you when you say that, if you're JJ Reddick, 1592 01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 2: because you're like Rob mean, Rob Polinka, Rob and I. 1593 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,840 Speaker 2: We didn't hand him anything. He earned this through hard work. 1594 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,920 Speaker 2: He worked so hard. And I said this when I 1595 01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,800 Speaker 2: was hosting with with Brian no on Friday morning. Just 1596 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 2: because you work hard doesn't mean you're gonna get this. 1597 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 2: Just because you work super hard doesn't mean you're gonna 1598 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,760 Speaker 2: end up in the NBA, doesn't mean you're gonna end 1599 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:28,479 Speaker 2: up in the NFL, doesn't mean you're gonna end up 1600 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 2: in the White House, doesn't mean you're gonna end up 1601 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,920 Speaker 2: at the top of your company doesn't mean anything. Like 1602 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people work hard and still there's a 1603 01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,400 Speaker 2: ceiling for them. Bronnie James conld be out there shooting, 1604 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,920 Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of people that are shooting in 1605 01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,720 Speaker 2: driveways around this country day after day after day after 1606 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,640 Speaker 2: day after day without a fan's father, and they're not 1607 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 2: even gonna be able to play high school basketball. Like 1608 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,479 Speaker 2: it's the it's this whole well, he works so hard 1609 01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:57,520 Speaker 2: for this, Okay, cool, that doesn't that should not guarantee anything. 1610 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,519 Speaker 2: And you've put him in a position where the Peter 1611 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:07,240 Speaker 2: principal states that eventually somebody advances in their career further 1612 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:11,040 Speaker 2: than they're supposed to be, gets exposed and then realize, oh, yeah, 1613 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 2: that guy's a coordinator. He's not a head coach. There 1614 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,720 Speaker 2: are some guys that are built to be coordinators, some 1615 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,519 Speaker 2: guys that are built to be head coaches, and some 1616 01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 2: guys that are built to bring water to coaches. Like 1617 01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 2: there's just different levels. I don't know what the Peter 1618 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,320 Speaker 2: principal is for Brownie a long term, but I know 1619 01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,559 Speaker 2: right now it's not the NBA. He's gonna get better, 1620 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure playing around those guys, But how much better, 1621 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,559 Speaker 2: and did he deserve the opportunity over a lot of 1622 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 2: other people who guess what worked really hard to JJ 1623 01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,679 Speaker 2: like that? That I think is I know it branched 1624 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:43,559 Speaker 2: off of the four point game, but what are we 1625 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,479 Speaker 2: supposed to say Aaron about a four point game? I 1626 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:48,479 Speaker 2: don't want to bury Bronny, but this is the whole 1627 01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,559 Speaker 2: essence of this story is that it's not like a 1628 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,880 Speaker 2: story of his making. I saw Lebron James say this 1629 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,639 Speaker 2: is a dream come true. It's like, dud, you set 1630 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:00,960 Speaker 2: all of this in motion, like you it's not a 1631 01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 2: dream come true. Your whole career has been and then 1632 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,000 Speaker 2: you use that leverage to manufacture this. In that way, 1633 01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,600 Speaker 2: it is a dream because most of the times in 1634 01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:12,160 Speaker 2: our dreams, we're doing things that we can't do in reality, 1635 01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,120 Speaker 2: things that are happening, and we wake up. You're like, 1636 01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 2: oh man, that wasn't real. But it is for you, Lebron, 1637 01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,599 Speaker 2: because you basically live a charmed life at this point, 1638 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,679 Speaker 2: and you are you have put all of these things 1639 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,720 Speaker 2: in motion like you're some kind of great architect that's 1640 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,640 Speaker 2: going to put your son on the floor with you 1641 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,040 Speaker 2: and put him on your professional basketball team, regardless of 1642 01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 2: whether or not it's good for them or not. 1643 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 1: Well, and I think it leads perfectly. You know, enough 1644 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,680 Speaker 1: Brownie talk here. If you missed any of our run, 1645 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,160 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about this as well. You 1646 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,200 Speaker 1: can go back now with the podcast. But I think 1647 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,599 Speaker 1: it leads perfectly to something that the Sagre just reference 1648 01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,240 Speaker 1: in his update just a few minutes ago, which is 1649 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 1: that after all this great talk about ah, you know Lebron, 1650 01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean yeah, he got his buddy 1651 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,240 Speaker 1: a job as the head coach and his son is 1652 01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,519 Speaker 1: drafted with the fifty fifth pick when they were players 1653 01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,439 Speaker 1: available that could have helped the Lakers, well at least, 1654 01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it'll if he takes a 1655 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:10,360 Speaker 1: pay cut, it'll it'll, it'll all be worth it. Well, 1656 01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,080 Speaker 1: he did, in theory take a pay cut, because, as 1657 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 1: de Seger said, he took about forty five thousand dollars 1658 01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,720 Speaker 1: less than he could have maybe a little bit more 1659 01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,000 Speaker 1: here or there, whatever, But I bring it up he 1660 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,960 Speaker 1: did it so that the team could could stay under 1661 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,480 Speaker 1: the second Apron, which of course has salary cap ramifications. 1662 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:33,200 Speaker 1: But essentially he took virtually the entire Max contract that 1663 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:37,759 Speaker 1: he could, And I bring it up because the BROWNNY 1664 01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:44,519 Speaker 1: News today kind of is the capstone of what was 1665 01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:49,599 Speaker 1: in otherwise totally forgettable week for the Los Angeles Lakers. 1666 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,519 Speaker 1: I mean, think about all the teams this week, Jason, 1667 01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,160 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference that were already ahead of them 1668 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,719 Speaker 1: or on part with them that got better. Dallas Mavericks 1669 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 1: got better with Klay Thompson. Uh, the Sacramento Kings today 1670 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,439 Speaker 1: got better with DeMar DeRozan. I know it's in the East. 1671 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,519 Speaker 1: But the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. We can criticize Paul George, 1672 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,760 Speaker 1: how good is he? The Philadelphia seventy six ers on 1673 01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,720 Speaker 1: paper today are better. 1674 01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,240 Speaker 2: Than they They're better. There's no question they're better, regardless 1675 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 2: of we we've picked Paul George apart in the past 1676 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 2: on this show, but they're That was clearly a good 1677 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 2: move by them. 1678 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And so you go on and on 1679 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 1: and on down the list all of the teams that 1680 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:32,520 Speaker 1: are rapidly improved. What what are the Lakers big offseason 1681 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 1: transactions to this point, you did get dolonkonnect credit to you, 1682 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,400 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna discredit them because I mean he 1683 01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,559 Speaker 1: did fall to them, But I still think it's gonna 1684 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 1: end up looking like a really good pick. Yeah, and 1685 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:48,200 Speaker 1: then Ronnie James and that's really it. And I do 1686 01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,679 Speaker 1: think and listen, we're a little late to the party 1687 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,320 Speaker 1: because we have a Saturday show and most of the 1688 01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:56,800 Speaker 1: free agency action happened on Sunday and Monday. But I 1689 01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,639 Speaker 1: don't think it takes away from the fact that this 1690 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:04,599 Speaker 1: was a pretty forgettable week. You had Klay Thompson's own 1691 01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,639 Speaker 1: dad coming out saying how disappointed he was that Klay 1692 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 1: Thompson didn't sign with the Lakers. And of course, Michael Thompson, 1693 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,400 Speaker 1: his father is a legend who's still broadcast games. Klay 1694 01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 1: Thompson grew up in Los Angeles. His father played for 1695 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:22,800 Speaker 1: the Lakers. 1696 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 2: Oh, showtime Lakers too. The show like he's one of 1697 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,000 Speaker 2: those guys, he's one of those minted Lakers. 1698 01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:32,880 Speaker 1: And you know, as many others have brought up on 1699 01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,400 Speaker 1: this network, you know, it was clear that no matter 1700 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,120 Speaker 1: what everybody's saying and all the Instagram posts and whatever, 1701 01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 1: that it was not a nice ending between Clay and 1702 01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,200 Speaker 1: the Warriors. And what's a great way to stick it 1703 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,960 Speaker 1: to him by going to a West Coast rival in 1704 01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 1: your division in the Pacific Division, you had so many 1705 01:29:56,439 --> 01:29:59,840 Speaker 1: things working for you, and the Lakers couldn't close. And 1706 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,760 Speaker 1: I think it's because what everyone else has talked about 1707 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:07,080 Speaker 1: on this network all week, nobody wants to go to 1708 01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:12,000 Speaker 1: that mess. And so yes, we're talking about Bronni because 1709 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:15,080 Speaker 1: it is what people want to talk about. But I 1710 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:21,360 Speaker 1: also think it I think, you know, Bronnie is a metaphor. 1711 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,760 Speaker 1: And I hate to say it because it's again, it's 1712 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,800 Speaker 1: not his fault. It's not his fault the Lakers drafted him. 1713 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,559 Speaker 1: It's not his fault that his father put this plan 1714 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,800 Speaker 1: in place. It's not his fault that his father, you know, 1715 01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,479 Speaker 1: even put this into existence four or five years ago, 1716 01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:39,240 Speaker 1: whenever it started. But his presence on the Lakers, his 1717 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 1: presence with the fifty fifth pick of the draft. I 1718 01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:46,920 Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt that every other marquee free 1719 01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:51,080 Speaker 1: agent is looking at the Lakers and saying, I want 1720 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,599 Speaker 1: no part of that. And oh, by the way, part 1721 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,360 Speaker 1: of it is the JJ Reddick stuff too, because he's 1722 01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,439 Speaker 1: Lebron's buddy. And if I was Klay Thompson, if I 1723 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,240 Speaker 1: was James, if I was Paul George, if I was whoever, 1724 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,120 Speaker 1: could have potentially been a Laker. Let's say I don't 1725 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 1: want to go there. I don't want to go to 1726 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,559 Speaker 1: the place that loo Lebron. Not only is he making 1727 01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,960 Speaker 1: sure that his son's getting playing time, but his buddy's 1728 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:15,919 Speaker 1: the head coach, and if there's a fault, you know whatever. 1729 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:17,720 Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make you know, what it 1730 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,519 Speaker 1: is is that it was a disastrous week and I 1731 01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,360 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of people that want nothing 1732 01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:27,280 Speaker 1: to do with the Lakers because of this situation he's created, 1733 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 1: and obviously it was on full display today with all 1734 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 1: of the Brownie coverage. 1735 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:35,080 Speaker 2: You know, if you go to LA, what you're going into. 1736 01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,920 Speaker 2: You're going into kind of a dysfunctional sort of a 1737 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:42,640 Speaker 2: hot and cold depending on ego and emotion. But you 1738 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,040 Speaker 2: know who's in charge. You know who's making the decisions. 1739 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,520 Speaker 2: It's not somebody in the front office, it's not ownership. 1740 01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:53,040 Speaker 2: It's one of the players. And so Klay Thompson made 1741 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:56,080 Speaker 2: the right basketball decision. He went somewhere where they could 1742 01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:00,400 Speaker 2: potentially win a championship rather than the obvious tie to 1743 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,080 Speaker 2: LA and the stuff with his dad, which I'm glad 1744 01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,080 Speaker 2: his dad wanted him to be there and was disappointed. 1745 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 2: He's not gonna be able to call his games, like 1746 01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,400 Speaker 2: that's what a dad should want. But Klay Thompson made 1747 01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 2: the right decision for himself. I saw the comparison. I 1748 01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,840 Speaker 2: thought it was a really good one between Klay Thompson's 1749 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,599 Speaker 2: move from Golden State to Dallas and Ray Allen going 1750 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,680 Speaker 2: to the Miami Heat. I see a lot there that 1751 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,120 Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense because Klay Thompson's gonna go 1752 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,599 Speaker 2: and do what. He's going to be a stand up 1753 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,320 Speaker 2: three point shooter. He's gonna be a catch and shoot guy. 1754 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,559 Speaker 2: He's not gonna be expected to be a second team 1755 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:34,280 Speaker 2: All defensive NBA player as he's been in the past. 1756 01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:37,960 Speaker 2: He's nowhere near that guy anymore. But he could still 1757 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,599 Speaker 2: go get you some buckets and he can go in 1758 01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,439 Speaker 2: there and fill that role for them. But the larger thing, 1759 01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:45,920 Speaker 2: so as soon as Klay Thompson signed, there were a 1760 01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,760 Speaker 2: couple of other guys that were on the list that 1761 01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:51,519 Speaker 2: Lebron have in the LA Lakers. He's like, if you 1762 01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,720 Speaker 2: get one of these three guys, I'll take however much 1763 01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,639 Speaker 2: less it's required to make it work. They got none 1764 01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,000 Speaker 2: of them, and then you saw a story. As soon 1765 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,000 Speaker 2: as those three guys were going, well, what a likelihood 1766 01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,400 Speaker 2: looks like? Maybe DeMar DeRozan told be a Laker, no 1767 01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:09,599 Speaker 2: peace in Sacramento. So everybody is choosing elsewhere. The moves 1768 01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,040 Speaker 2: that the Lakers have made. You mentioned the two draft picks, 1769 01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,440 Speaker 2: and then you had guys opting in, you had D'Angelo 1770 01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:21,400 Speaker 2: Russell back in. They're a mess. They're not a contender 1771 01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:26,200 Speaker 2: at all. And I don't think that in general the 1772 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,880 Speaker 2: decisions that are being made there or even helping them 1773 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,799 Speaker 2: keep pace with what's happening around them in the Western Conference. 1774 01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,559 Speaker 2: And you know, Lebron's probably done in the next couple 1775 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:39,800 Speaker 2: of years. And this is kind of the way this 1776 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,240 Speaker 2: is gone. It hasn't gotten. It just hadn't worked. It 1777 01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 2: hadn't like since the bubble year. It's just kind of 1778 01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:52,639 Speaker 2: been one misfire after another. The Reddick thing. I mentioned 1779 01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,360 Speaker 2: this a day ago when I was filling in with 1780 01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:57,479 Speaker 2: Brian on Friday morning, and I said, you know, the 1781 01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:00,200 Speaker 2: thing that's interesting about JJ Redick is is anybody but 1782 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,080 Speaker 2: the Lakers, or maybe like the Nuggets or something like that. 1783 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,919 Speaker 2: I feel like it would be a completely different discourse 1784 01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 2: if he had ended up getting that Charlotte job. I 1785 01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,120 Speaker 2: think we'd take. I could see that. I mean, he 1786 01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:14,000 Speaker 2: played a duke and smart guy. Good podcasters gonna give 1787 01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,400 Speaker 2: them a little bit of publicity because hornets, and I 1788 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,800 Speaker 2: could see that that's a risk you could take. I 1789 01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 2: understand that. But because it's the Lakers, it changes everything. 1790 01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:25,600 Speaker 2: And I think some other people on the network have 1791 01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,920 Speaker 2: said this all week air and that the spotlight's just 1792 01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,920 Speaker 2: different out there. And you said repeatedly on this show 1793 01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,280 Speaker 2: that this Lakers team with Lebron, it's just it doesn't 1794 01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,040 Speaker 2: feel the same, and it's not kind of followed in 1795 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,120 Speaker 2: the same way by a lot of Lakers fans who 1796 01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,880 Speaker 2: are just kind of waiting out this era so that 1797 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,439 Speaker 2: they can do everything all over again. And I think 1798 01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:49,720 Speaker 2: the microcosm of that is one of the biggest storylines 1799 01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,880 Speaker 2: of the year. Is gonna be some dude on the 1800 01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:55,400 Speaker 2: bench that might get like garbage time minutes and it's 1801 01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,320 Speaker 2: not going to do anything for them because they're not 1802 01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:01,200 Speaker 2: going to be They're not gonna be relevant may and 1803 01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:05,240 Speaker 2: ultimately that's an utter failure for that franchise. 1804 01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard Jason Smith say during one of the 1805 01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,679 Speaker 1: commercial breaks. I know not everybody maybe gets a chance 1806 01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:13,439 Speaker 1: to hear it. But Jason Smith said the Lakers aren't 1807 01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna go back to being the Lakers until Lebron's gone. 1808 01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,880 Speaker 2: That's a great quote. I didn't hear that, but that's good. Yeah, 1809 01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 2: it's dead right, similar to what you've said. 1810 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's spot on. The sad part is they weren't 1811 01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,040 Speaker 1: much before he got there either, which I think is 1812 01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,760 Speaker 1: also a reflection of the state of the organization. Fox 1813 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:32,519 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Aer Tords Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the 1814 01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,599 Speaker 1: Tyreck dot Com studio. Tell you what, guess we'll come 1815 01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,439 Speaker 1: back and talk a little bit more Lebron, mainly because 1816 01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:44,360 Speaker 1: Team USA Olympic team got together today. J Martin and 1817 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,040 Speaker 1: I have very different takes on what we should expect. 1818 01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,439 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I don't know if maybe you 1819 01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,160 Speaker 2: have a similar take to me. We'll find out. 1820 01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:55,200 Speaker 1: We'll find out. That's next. Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. 1821 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:59,559 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Er Tords Jason Martin, broadcasting live from 1822 01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:04,559 Speaker 1: the Tire Studios. For the break, we were talking about 1823 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:09,400 Speaker 1: the pseudo meltdown of the Lakers, who basically had no 1824 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:14,120 Speaker 1: real week to speak of in free agency. Broni made 1825 01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:19,040 Speaker 1: his debut today in the California Classic, but his father. 1826 01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:23,200 Speaker 1: Of course, Lebron James was with Team USA. Team USA 1827 01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:29,040 Speaker 1: Basketball team convened in Vegas. All but Jason Tatum was 1828 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,640 Speaker 1: in attendance today. He had an excused absence. But we 1829 01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:38,040 Speaker 1: got a Team USA team with no shortage of star power. 1830 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,559 Speaker 1: Lebron James and what will almost certainly be his final 1831 01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:46,360 Speaker 1: Olympic appearance, Steph Curry actually in his first Olympic appearance. 1832 01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:50,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Duran is on the team, Joe lmbead will represent 1833 01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:53,000 Speaker 1: Team USA for the first time, Anthony Edwards for the 1834 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:58,080 Speaker 1: first time in an Olympic Games, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard. 1835 01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,600 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on. J Mart, does this 1836 01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:04,960 Speaker 1: team of USA basketball team do anything for you? Get 1837 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:08,080 Speaker 1: excited to watch them in Paris this summer only. 1838 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:11,400 Speaker 2: For one reason. Not anything they're gonna do on the floor. Oh, 1839 01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,439 Speaker 2: I mean it'll be fine, But I mean I've seen 1840 01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:19,200 Speaker 2: these super teams play before in the international competition, So 1841 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 2: in terms of that, it's not that it won't be something. 1842 01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:23,840 Speaker 2: I'll watch it all, but it's not something that I 1843 01:37:23,880 --> 01:37:28,080 Speaker 2: care that much about. The reason why this is relevant 1844 01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:30,879 Speaker 2: is because of everything else that happens as a result 1845 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:33,360 Speaker 2: of it. If you go back and look at the 1846 01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:38,120 Speaker 2: history of super teams. They start right here. These guys 1847 01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:42,559 Speaker 2: play internationally, they play together, and they become friends. Why 1848 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,679 Speaker 2: did Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving end up playing together 1849 01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:50,800 Speaker 2: because they played internationally and they became really close friends. Yeah, 1850 01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:55,439 Speaker 2: the same thing happened with Dwayne Wade and Bosh and 1851 01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:59,760 Speaker 2: Lebron James. Like these guys and they go play internationally, 1852 01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,600 Speaker 2: they discover like new alliances, and they sit there and 1853 01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,000 Speaker 2: they talk, and then they come back and they form 1854 01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,800 Speaker 2: They come back and they try to manufacture this on 1855 01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:11,559 Speaker 2: the floor, And that right there is why it's interesting. 1856 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:15,920 Speaker 2: These international competitions then immediately translate to a bunch of 1857 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,719 Speaker 2: things happening inside the NBA where all of a sudden, 1858 01:38:18,800 --> 01:38:21,920 Speaker 2: this guy's trying to force a trade out. They're trying 1859 01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:23,960 Speaker 2: to find a way to make this work underneath the 1860 01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,599 Speaker 2: salary cap and all this kind of stuff. That's why 1861 01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:30,960 Speaker 2: it's interesting. It's interesting because the NBA future that often 1862 01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:35,080 Speaker 2: gets changed or made as a result of what's happening. 1863 01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,840 Speaker 2: In terms of just like watching them all play together. No, 1864 01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:40,240 Speaker 2: I mean that doesn't do much for me. 1865 01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 1: That's crazy. So first of all, I don't think anything 1866 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:48,680 Speaker 1: too crazy like that will happen only because most of 1867 01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:50,600 Speaker 1: these guys are at the tail end of their careers. 1868 01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, you know, I Lebron's going to retire a Laker, 1869 01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:01,280 Speaker 1: Steph's gonna retire almost certainly a Warrior. You know, if 1870 01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:03,439 Speaker 1: some of these other guys make moves like Duran at 1871 01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,519 Speaker 1: this point, it's like whatever, it's not to say that, 1872 01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't have good basketball left, but he's 1873 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,800 Speaker 1: just moved so many times that I don't like think 1874 01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:14,639 Speaker 1: it's that interesting. But I will say, like, I actually 1875 01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:20,400 Speaker 1: just disagree. I'm actually really excited to watch this particular 1876 01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:23,880 Speaker 1: group of guys play together because one, you know, first 1877 01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:26,320 Speaker 1: of all, I think it's kind of the last hurrah 1878 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:32,800 Speaker 1: for again, Steph Lebron for sure, Katie probably in his 1879 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:36,800 Speaker 1: mid thirties now, probably will not play in another Olympics. 1880 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:40,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. I I'm just you know, I'm not obviously, 1881 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm I've been critical many many times on these airwaves 1882 01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,639 Speaker 1: of the state of NBA basketball. And you know, ten 1883 01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,519 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, he used to tune into the All 1884 01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,680 Speaker 1: Star Game to watch all these guys play together. And 1885 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 1: so that has stopped being a thing because guys don't care, 1886 01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know, Like like, I am just genuinely 1887 01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:04,120 Speaker 1: curious to to see how it all works out. Uh, 1888 01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,240 Speaker 1: to see the the younger guys, the Tatums and the 1889 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:10,559 Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards is kind of uh take the baton to 1890 01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,120 Speaker 1: see if like a Joe l em Bead, like you know, 1891 01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:15,559 Speaker 1: you talk about the trickle down effect into the season, like, 1892 01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, does he get you know, being around these 1893 01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:23,800 Speaker 1: guys that have won championships and and you know, one 1894 01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:27,280 Speaker 1: at the highest level, does maybe he start to realize, Hey, 1895 01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, I need to maybe have not I don't 1896 01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,840 Speaker 1: know how to say this delicately, but maybe not be 1897 01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,800 Speaker 1: so goofy like I don't I don't know, you know, 1898 01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,400 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I am. I am curious, and 1899 01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:40,280 Speaker 1: I am curious because it's not just a bunch of 1900 01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:44,040 Speaker 1: young guys either entering their prime or whatever. But it 1901 01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,639 Speaker 1: is kind of that old school with the new school. 1902 01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:49,640 Speaker 1: And I would say one other thing too, Jason, you 1903 01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,400 Speaker 1: could certainly comment on what I just said. I saw 1904 01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,280 Speaker 1: Chris and Rob talked about this on the Odd Couple 1905 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,479 Speaker 1: where they said, you know, is this really the last run? 1906 01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:02,080 Speaker 1: Where is it even the last? Is it even a 1907 01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:07,280 Speaker 1: run this this summer where USA really dominates these international competitions. 1908 01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,760 Speaker 1: Just as an example, I mean team Canada is in 1909 01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,760 Speaker 1: this event. They got Jamal Murray, they got shake Gilges Alexander. 1910 01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,439 Speaker 1: I mean their whole team is basically NBA players. 1911 01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:20,040 Speaker 2: But France is going to be really interesting considering the 1912 01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 2: last two number one picks, and I think the number 1913 01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 2: two pick and this year's draft as well. Like the 1914 01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,040 Speaker 2: international side, I agree with that side of it, like 1915 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:32,479 Speaker 2: the more international guys get drafted the and especially get 1916 01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,479 Speaker 2: drafted early as lottery picks, that is going to have 1917 01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:40,800 Speaker 2: a delitarious effect on what the American team is producing. 1918 01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 2: But I don't know that this is the last raw, 1919 01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,839 Speaker 2: but it might be the last one that feels easy. 1920 01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I'm just I am excited. And 1921 01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,720 Speaker 1: I will say, you know, on social media over the 1922 01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:56,519 Speaker 1: last twenty four or so hours as those guys arrived, 1923 01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,599 Speaker 1: thought it was pretty cool just seeing them all on 1924 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,920 Speaker 1: one cour in one place, and you know, I'm just 1925 01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:05,479 Speaker 1: curious to see what it all looks like when they 1926 01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:07,920 Speaker 1: get on the court. How does the roster, how does 1927 01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:12,040 Speaker 1: like the starting lineup come together? Is a Kevin Durant 1928 01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,439 Speaker 1: type coming off the bench. I wouldn't think so, but 1929 01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:16,840 Speaker 1: you just never know. There's only five starting spots, so 1930 01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,080 Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting. Fox Sports Radio air towards 1931 01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,639 Speaker 1: Jason Martin broadcasting live forth the Tireck dot Com studios 1932 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:26,800 Speaker 1: will come back one quick college football story. We'll get 1933 01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,240 Speaker 1: to that next before we do, though, nos desk de 1934 01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:30,360 Speaker 1: saga what's trending. 1935 01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:33,599 Speaker 6: By the way, the Olympic final in men's hoops at 1936 01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:37,719 Speaker 6: the Tokyo Games a few years ago was USA eighty 1937 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,240 Speaker 6: seven France eighty two. And I am not the first 1938 01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:45,120 Speaker 6: one to say this, but Rudy Gobert and Victor wimmin 1939 01:42:45,200 --> 01:42:50,920 Speaker 6: Yama with no three second defensive call standing by I 1940 01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:54,879 Speaker 6: don't want to see that. As for MLB action, everything's 1941 01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 6: final because the late game in San Diego is over 1942 01:42:57,479 --> 01:43:00,840 Speaker 6: Arizona and ten innings has beaten the Padre seven. The 1943 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,920 Speaker 6: Padres had bases loaded with no outs in the tenth 1944 01:43:04,280 --> 01:43:06,479 Speaker 6: and then struck out twice and flied out to end 1945 01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:10,120 Speaker 6: the game. Colorado a three to one winner over Kansas City, 1946 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:12,960 Speaker 6: beating Seth Lugo. The pitcher had been eleven and two. 1947 01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,880 Speaker 6: The Dodgers down Milwaukee in one of the Fox TV 1948 01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,920 Speaker 6: games tonight, five to three. Sho hey Otani leads the 1949 01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,760 Speaker 6: National League with now twenty eight home runs. He hit 1950 01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,880 Speaker 6: a solo shot at bottom of the eighth. Will Smith 1951 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,840 Speaker 6: a first inning homer tonight after three home runs last night, 1952 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 6: so the Brewers at Dodger Stadium have lost thirteen of 1953 01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,920 Speaker 6: their last fourteen games. Atlanta got a first inning home 1954 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,479 Speaker 6: run from Marcellosuna and beat Philadelphia five to one. Got 1955 01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,879 Speaker 6: five runs in five innings of Philly starter Ranger Suarez, 1956 01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,920 Speaker 6: who had been ten and two. Miami trailed to White 1957 01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,479 Speaker 6: Sox three nothing in the third, but beat Chicago four 1958 01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:49,679 Speaker 6: to three. White Sox reliever Michael Soroka took the loss. 1959 01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,759 Speaker 6: The former Braves first rounder zero to nine this season. 1960 01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,559 Speaker 6: Detroit with five runs top of the eighth one five 1961 01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,479 Speaker 6: to three at Cincinnati. Toronto was up five to nothing 1962 01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:01,200 Speaker 6: in the eighth and held on five four. At Seattle, 1963 01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,560 Speaker 6: Cleveland edge San Francisco five to four. The save to 1964 01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:08,000 Speaker 6: no doubt, an All star from the Guardians, Emmanuel Class 1965 01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,719 Speaker 6: is twenty sixth save. His ERA this year is zero 1966 01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:16,320 Speaker 6: point six five. The Oakland A's led Baltimore twelve nothing 1967 01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,639 Speaker 6: in the third inning. It was seventeen to one after 1968 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,320 Speaker 6: six nineteen to eight Oakland the final. The A's hit 1969 01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,600 Speaker 6: five home runs. Their attendance today was eight thousand and 1970 01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:29,880 Speaker 6: five twenty six. The Orioles are first in the AL East, 1971 01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,880 Speaker 6: two games over the Yankees. The Yankees were fourteen to 1972 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,040 Speaker 6: four winners against Boston as rookie Ben Rice had three 1973 01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:38,920 Speaker 6: home runs seven RBIs. He started the year at double A. 1974 01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,439 Speaker 6: Washington fourteen to six over Saint Louis. The loss to 1975 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:44,479 Speaker 6: Lance Lynn. He was down nine to nothing in the 1976 01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,160 Speaker 6: second inning. The Mets got to save from Edwin Diaz, 1977 01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,879 Speaker 6: winning at Pittsburgh five to two. At Texas, Marcus Simians 1978 01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:53,080 Speaker 6: been slumping badly for a month plus, but hit a 1979 01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,439 Speaker 6: two run homer in the seventh and the Rangers edge 1980 01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,160 Speaker 6: Tampa Bay four to three. The Angel shut out the 1981 01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,719 Speaker 6: Cubs in Chicago seven nothing. The lost to veteran Kyle Hendricks, 1982 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:05,120 Speaker 6: now one and seven with an ERA over seven and 1983 01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,719 Speaker 6: a half. He went two innings for the Cubs today, 1984 01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,200 Speaker 6: gave up the first two runs, and Minnesota was a 1985 01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:12,920 Speaker 6: nine to three winner over Houston. Houston still two games 1986 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,960 Speaker 6: behind first place Seattle in the AL West. For the Twins, 1987 01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:19,880 Speaker 6: Jose Miranda had a hit in a twelfth straight at bat, 1988 01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:22,639 Speaker 6: which ties the Major league record, but he later flew 1989 01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:23,040 Speaker 6: out to. 1990 01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:23,679 Speaker 1: End the streak. 1991 01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:27,600 Speaker 6: The complete MLB All Star Game rosters will be revealed tomorrow, 1992 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:32,120 Speaker 6: including pitchers and reserves for both sides. The game itself 1993 01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:34,959 Speaker 6: is a week from Tuesday on Fox TV. At Wimbledon, 1994 01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,920 Speaker 6: Number one Egas Fiantec lost in three sets, six two 1995 01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:41,479 Speaker 6: in the third Coco Goss fourth round matches tomorrow against 1996 01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 6: fellow American Emma Navarro. At the Euros, England won its 1997 01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:48,920 Speaker 6: quarterfinal on penalty kicks against Switzerland. In England's history, it 1998 01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:52,719 Speaker 6: had lost seven of its last nine penalty shootouts until today. 1999 01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,479 Speaker 6: Netherlands defeated Turkey out two to one. The semi start 2000 01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:01,320 Speaker 6: Tuesday on Fox TV with Spain versus France at Copa 2001 01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:06,320 Speaker 6: America quarterfinal win for Uruguay tonight eliminating Brazil on penalty 2002 01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:10,520 Speaker 6: kicks in Las Vegas. Attendance was fifty one thousand. Columbia 2003 01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:14,160 Speaker 6: five to nothing over Panama in Arizona. Columbia is unbeaten 2004 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:17,799 Speaker 6: in its last twenty seven games. The semis start Tuesday 2005 01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:21,720 Speaker 6: night with Argentina against Canada on FS one from New 2006 01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:27,439 Speaker 6: Jersey the last men's Olympic qualifying basketball tournaments and tomorrow 2007 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:33,200 Speaker 6: four tourneys, four finals, four teams. The last four get 2008 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:37,400 Speaker 6: into the men's field tomorrow, including Greece hosting Croatia tomorrow. 2009 01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:41,720 Speaker 6: Chance for Janison Tenecumpo to advance to the Olympics. He 2010 01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:45,639 Speaker 6: and his team eliminated Slovenia and Luka Donsich. Today, Brownni 2011 01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:48,599 Speaker 6: James scored four points in his NBA Summer League debut, 2012 01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,080 Speaker 6: two of nine shooting from the floors. The Lakers lost 2013 01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:55,280 Speaker 6: to a Sacramento squad. The Sacramento Kings acquired Damar DeRozan tonight. 2014 01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:57,679 Speaker 6: Harrison Barnes is going to the Spurs in the sign 2015 01:46:57,680 --> 01:47:01,799 Speaker 6: and trade and two WNBA games. Minnesota at home beat Washington. 2016 01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:04,720 Speaker 6: Indiana came back to defeat New York Caitlin Clark at 2017 01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,920 Speaker 6: triple double, the first by a rookie in league history. 2018 01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:11,960 Speaker 1: Back to you, thank you very much, to Seger, to Saga. 2019 01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:15,200 Speaker 1: Have a great, great, great evening. You'll be back tomorrow 2020 01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:19,880 Speaker 1: with Mark Willard and I from Salam Chris Plank and 2021 01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,280 Speaker 1: Arnie Spanier. Fox Sports Radio Er Tours, Jason mart taking 2022 01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:26,040 Speaker 1: up till two am. Eastern Real Quick Jason, it's gonna 2023 01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:30,600 Speaker 1: be crazy, It's gonna sound crazy. This week we have 2024 01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:36,200 Speaker 1: the first media days in college football, So SEC is 2025 01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,320 Speaker 1: a week from this Monday, but this week we have 2026 01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,720 Speaker 1: Big Twelve Media Days. J Mart and I bring it 2027 01:47:41,800 --> 01:47:45,759 Speaker 1: up because just really quickly, just want your perspective on 2028 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:51,160 Speaker 1: the Colorado Buffaloes. Dion Sanders coach Prime pick to finish 2029 01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:55,599 Speaker 1: eleventh out of sixteen teams in the preseason poll. Obviously, 2030 01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,800 Speaker 1: coach Prime will speak in Vegas this week at the 2031 01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:03,439 Speaker 1: Big Twelve, But what do you make of Colorado and 2032 01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,800 Speaker 1: do you, yeah, what do you make of Colorado being 2033 01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:07,439 Speaker 1: picked to finish eleventh in that lead? 2034 01:48:07,680 --> 01:48:09,400 Speaker 2: I think there's just a lot of question marks and 2035 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:12,360 Speaker 2: a lot of wait and sees because of the way 2036 01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:17,240 Speaker 2: last year just kind of submarined after the start and 2037 01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:21,800 Speaker 2: the excitement, everything surrounding the program after that point got 2038 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:25,880 Speaker 2: increasingly more negative, and the feeling surrounding it became a 2039 01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,960 Speaker 2: little bit more and more pessimistic. So I think it's 2040 01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,639 Speaker 2: kind of maybe it's not even just wait and see. 2041 01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:34,000 Speaker 2: I think it's just a yellow light, not a green 2042 01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,120 Speaker 2: light right now when you look at Colorado and you 2043 01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:40,400 Speaker 2: kind of want to see them perform like you want 2044 01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,400 Speaker 2: to see them prove it. You look at it and 2045 01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,640 Speaker 2: you're trying to see what's the dynamic going to be 2046 01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:47,760 Speaker 2: with coach Prime in year two? What do you learn 2047 01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:51,320 Speaker 2: from year one? Is something going to change? And then 2048 01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:54,559 Speaker 2: just moving into a conference that's going to be challenging, 2049 01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,519 Speaker 2: and so I mean, I think it's just kind of 2050 01:48:57,560 --> 01:48:59,639 Speaker 2: hedging your bet. If they end up better than that, 2051 01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,960 Speaker 2: then that won't be a bad thing for college football. 2052 01:49:02,960 --> 01:49:04,599 Speaker 2: It will be a bad thing for those that are 2053 01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:08,200 Speaker 2: writing those storylines. I'm curious to see how it's a dressed, 2054 01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 2: Like are people going to ask questions of Prime, like 2055 01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:12,320 Speaker 2: what do you think that you what do you think 2056 01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,040 Speaker 2: of being picked eleventh? And see if he is willing 2057 01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:17,800 Speaker 2: to go there and tee off and get very blustery 2058 01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:21,680 Speaker 2: or if he's going to be more reserved or in 2059 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:26,200 Speaker 2: check or downplay that as any kind of a storyline. 2060 01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:30,120 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting, you know, I see both sides of 2061 01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:35,760 Speaker 1: the conversation. I think that you know one, I think 2062 01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:40,240 Speaker 1: it certainly has some combustible elements to it. You know, 2063 01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:42,639 Speaker 1: you go four and eight last year, you really fall 2064 01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:46,040 Speaker 1: apart down the stretch. A lot of guys transfer out 2065 01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:50,040 Speaker 1: you're taking in more transfers. You have some weird social 2066 01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:53,400 Speaker 1: media stuff with schdoor and you know, calling out former players, 2067 01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,800 Speaker 1: and I don't love that and all that, I will 2068 01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,559 Speaker 1: say it'll be interesting. From the opposite perspective as well, 2069 01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:02,439 Speaker 1: is that they should be more talented, and it is 2070 01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:07,280 Speaker 1: worth noting like gave up fifty I believe, fifty total 2071 01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:10,719 Speaker 1: sacks last year, which was second most in college football, 2072 01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:13,360 Speaker 1: worst run game in college football, And it's like if 2073 01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:16,160 Speaker 1: they're just a little bit better in those categories. I 2074 01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:20,680 Speaker 1: mean cause with Shador, like there is a reason that 2075 01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:24,240 Speaker 1: people think he's a legitimate, you know, potential first round 2076 01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,640 Speaker 1: in an NFL draft prospect, Like he can really sling it. 2077 01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:29,040 Speaker 1: And I know you always make fun of me for 2078 01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:31,479 Speaker 1: watching college football spring games and I'm not like sitting 2079 01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,080 Speaker 1: there with a note pad taking notes, but I remember 2080 01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,200 Speaker 1: seeing Colorado spring game and just kind of flipping channels 2081 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,040 Speaker 1: and you forget, like Chador really can't sling it, Like 2082 01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:45,160 Speaker 1: he is a very special talent. And it's like, if 2083 01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:46,920 Speaker 1: you just get a little bit more protection, if you 2084 01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:48,799 Speaker 1: just get a little bit more run game to balance 2085 01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,720 Speaker 1: it out, if the defense is just a little bit better, 2086 01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,479 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying, you know, go from the the 2087 01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:57,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty first run game to the twenty third, 2088 01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,000 Speaker 1: Like if you just get a little bit of improved 2089 01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:03,280 Speaker 1: in all those places. They went four and eight last year. 2090 01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, they lost a bunch of games by not 2091 01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,320 Speaker 1: a very big margin, lost by a touchdown to usc 2092 01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:11,439 Speaker 1: see lost on a walk off field, going to Arizona, 2093 01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:14,160 Speaker 1: et cetera. Like there is that scenario where they could 2094 01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:17,400 Speaker 1: be better. But I think I'm gonna need to see 2095 01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:18,559 Speaker 1: it before I fully believe it. 2096 01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's it. I mean, that really is. 2097 01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:24,799 Speaker 2: It's just we all just have to actually watch season 2098 01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:30,280 Speaker 2: two occur and see what changed from season one, if 2099 01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,439 Speaker 2: there were some things that were learned. And yeah, I agree. 2100 01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,240 Speaker 2: I mean I don't think Schuder's taken any kind of 2101 01:51:34,240 --> 01:51:37,320 Speaker 2: a step back. I think he's a legit star and 2102 01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,880 Speaker 2: we just have to I think it's just kind of new, 2103 01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:44,120 Speaker 2: and we know there was a lot of change both 2104 01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,840 Speaker 2: in personnel as well as what's happening on the sidelines 2105 01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:53,200 Speaker 2: with different people coming in and whatever. Maybe Dion was 2106 01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,679 Speaker 2: able to learn from that experience in a major conference 2107 01:51:55,680 --> 01:51:58,400 Speaker 2: in one year. He applies in year two and we 2108 01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:01,120 Speaker 2: see where they are Eleventh is pretty I mean, eleventh 2109 01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,760 Speaker 2: out of sixteen you would hope to be better than that. 2110 01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:05,840 Speaker 2: I think it's very possible they are better than that, 2111 01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,679 Speaker 2: but I think that's a safe place to put them, 2112 01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,280 Speaker 2: where you don't put them completely in the seller. But 2113 01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:13,280 Speaker 2: you're basically saying, yeah, you're gonna have to go earn 2114 01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,519 Speaker 2: my respect. You're gonna have to go and improve something 2115 01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:21,160 Speaker 2: to me, because I don't see it just blossoming right 2116 01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:22,040 Speaker 2: in front of my eyes. 2117 01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:26,880 Speaker 1: Be interesting to watch. Big twelve Media Days is this 2118 01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:30,639 Speaker 1: week college football in the NFL. Right around the corner, 2119 01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:34,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Er Towards Days Martin. One segment left 2120 01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:38,920 Speaker 1: when we come back, did we see the end of 2121 01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,320 Speaker 1: a major sporting event as we know it? That's next 2122 01:52:41,360 --> 01:52:45,599 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio Aer 2123 01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:49,080 Speaker 1: Torris days Martin, broadcasting live from the TIREC dot Com studios. 2124 01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:52,360 Speaker 1: Take it up till two a m. Eastern time. Bernie 2125 01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,080 Speaker 1: Fratdo of The Bernie Fraddo Show will follow us. One 2126 01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,439 Speaker 1: more reminder after our show, just a few minutes from now, 2127 01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:00,640 Speaker 1: our podcast will be going up. If you missed any 2128 01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,679 Speaker 1: of today's show, be sure to check out the podcast. 2129 01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:06,200 Speaker 1: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, 2130 01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,439 Speaker 1: and be sure to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again, 2131 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,040 Speaker 1: just search Fox Sports Ready wherever you get your podcasts, 2132 01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:15,160 Speaker 1: and you'll see this show right after we get off air. 2133 01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,640 Speaker 1: J Mart real quick, I want to get to the 2134 01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:22,400 Speaker 1: teas that I laid out, But one quick thing. I'm 2135 01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:24,839 Speaker 1: curious your perspective. And we talked about Team USA basketball 2136 01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:28,000 Speaker 1: just a minute ago. A bunch of big names there, 2137 01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:32,920 Speaker 1: you know, Lebron, Steph kd, Joe l embiid one guy 2138 01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:38,360 Speaker 1: that is also part of Team USA. Kawhi Leonard, missed 2139 01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:42,240 Speaker 1: the Clippers' final eight regular season games, games one, four, 2140 01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,679 Speaker 1: and six of the first round of the playoffs, which 2141 01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:47,439 Speaker 1: obviously they lost to the Dallas Mavericks. You have problem 2142 01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:51,519 Speaker 1: with Kawhi playing Team USA when he basically can't stay 2143 01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:53,799 Speaker 1: healthy for the team that actually pays him as salary 2144 01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:54,240 Speaker 1: every year. 2145 01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not a Clippers fan, so no, but 2146 01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:00,559 Speaker 2: if I was, yes, because it's like you couldn't suit 2147 01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:04,519 Speaker 2: up for me, and you are consistently taking off a 2148 01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:08,160 Speaker 2: lot of time during the regular season, not just this year, 2149 01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:12,320 Speaker 2: but throughout much of your career. You're aloof and odd 2150 01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,760 Speaker 2: you've dealt with injuries, but you're gonna play in the 2151 01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:20,160 Speaker 2: off season in this tournament where we're probably gonna win 2152 01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:24,320 Speaker 2: the gold medal without you, and then you're still gonna 2153 01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,519 Speaker 2: need time off next regular season. Yeah, Like I can 2154 01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:28,880 Speaker 2: understand be a mytht about that. 2155 01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:32,840 Speaker 1: It is interesting, and I think I probably would be 2156 01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,600 Speaker 1: as well. It is. It is interesting by the way. 2157 01:54:36,600 --> 01:54:36,840 Speaker 2: It's all. 2158 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:39,440 Speaker 1: It's sort of the same with Joel Embiid. I don't 2159 01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:41,640 Speaker 1: know that i'd be quite as outraged if I was 2160 01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:45,560 Speaker 1: a Sixers fan about Mbad playing, but he's another one 2161 01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,120 Speaker 1: that has missed a lot of time. And with Kawhi, yeah, 2162 01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:50,160 Speaker 1: I do actually kind of think that I'd be pretty 2163 01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:55,280 Speaker 1: upset if I was a if I was a Clippers fan, 2164 01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,040 Speaker 1: because of course, again he can't stay healthy and eb. 2165 01:54:59,000 --> 01:55:01,280 Speaker 2: To think is even more or I mean, it's different though, 2166 01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:03,520 Speaker 2: Like I agree with what you're saying. The problem with 2167 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,600 Speaker 2: Embiid is this, like if I'm a Sixers fan, dude, 2168 01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:08,400 Speaker 2: you get hurt all the time. You tell me you're 2169 01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:12,360 Speaker 2: playing extra basketball. That's where I'm concerned if I am 2170 01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:15,720 Speaker 2: as a Sixers fan, Yeah, but not maybe Nam quite 2171 01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:19,680 Speaker 2: to the same extent, Like Embiid is Samuel L. Jackson 2172 01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:24,720 Speaker 2: and unbreakable. He is mister Glass like He's gotten hurt 2173 01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:27,480 Speaker 2: over and over and over and over again. He could 2174 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:30,000 Speaker 2: barely ever finish the season. And it's not a low 2175 01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:34,040 Speaker 2: management issue. He just his body betrays him over and over. 2176 01:55:34,120 --> 01:55:36,680 Speaker 2: So you're gonna then play him in international basketball, which 2177 01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:39,440 Speaker 2: is a physical style game. If he comes out of 2178 01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,280 Speaker 2: there injured. I don't think anybody's gonna be particularly surprised, 2179 01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:45,000 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna be real angry if I'm Philadelphia. 2180 01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:49,880 Speaker 1: Very interesting stuff. Tmusa. By the way, their first exhibition 2181 01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,680 Speaker 1: is Tuesday night in Las Vegas. So real quick. We're 2182 01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:58,839 Speaker 1: talking about the potential of a sport or an event 2183 01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:03,400 Speaker 1: at the very least U disappearing. I thought it was interesting. 2184 01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:07,640 Speaker 1: Nathan's hot dog eating contest was, of course, depending on 2185 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:10,600 Speaker 1: where you were two three days ago in uh in 2186 01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:16,160 Speaker 1: Coney Island, July fourth tradition. J Martin, I am not 2187 01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:19,840 Speaker 1: a huge hot dog guy. Well, I like hot dogs. Yeah, 2188 01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:21,600 Speaker 1: I like hot dogs. I'm not a big fan of 2189 01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:22,200 Speaker 1: the competition. 2190 01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:22,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, me either. 2191 01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:28,120 Speaker 1: I will say it felt this was, of course, the 2192 01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:30,960 Speaker 1: first year without Joey Chestnut, who is banned from the competition. 2193 01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:36,800 Speaker 1: It felt like on social media there was just no 2194 01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:41,240 Speaker 1: buzz at all about this event. And I saw the 2195 01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:44,920 Speaker 1: ESPN betting people said that they got about a third 2196 01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:46,880 Speaker 1: of the betting handle that they normally did, so, in 2197 01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:50,600 Speaker 1: other words, two thirds less money coming in on the event. 2198 01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:54,080 Speaker 1: I think we're at the point Joey Chestnut is officially 2199 01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:57,720 Speaker 1: bigger than Major League Eating because I didn't care. I 2200 01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,520 Speaker 1: don't know anybody else that cared, and I will I'll say, like, 2201 01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:02,400 Speaker 1: you know, usually it is like a thing on social 2202 01:57:02,440 --> 01:57:05,240 Speaker 1: media July fourth, people are at least, you know, tuning 2203 01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:09,080 Speaker 1: in to watch Joey Chestnut. It felt like absolute crickets 2204 01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:11,000 Speaker 1: on Thursday, July fourth. 2205 01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:13,240 Speaker 2: I mean again, I mean, this is the same deal 2206 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,960 Speaker 2: where we were talking about earlier with Michael Phelps and 2207 01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:18,640 Speaker 2: things like that, like there's one reason to watch if 2208 01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna watch. For me, it's not enough. But I'll 2209 01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:25,080 Speaker 2: find out how many he ate after the thing. But 2210 01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:28,600 Speaker 2: the only the only thing I would push back on 2211 01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,680 Speaker 2: is the people that watched the hot dog eating contest. 2212 01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:34,560 Speaker 2: I still feel like the number is going to be 2213 01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,360 Speaker 2: like if you if you're somebody that enjoys that contest, 2214 01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,440 Speaker 2: you're probably still gonna watch it. I don't know that 2215 01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:43,640 Speaker 2: him not being there would affect it, but everything else, yes, 2216 01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:45,640 Speaker 2: I mean, of course there's no interest level. It feels 2217 01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:52,880 Speaker 2: like a sham because it's not you're not beating someone 2218 01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:56,120 Speaker 2: without having the goat there. What are you proving the 2219 01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:58,720 Speaker 2: guy that won it? I mean, what do you do? 2220 01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:00,320 Speaker 2: You get the mustard belt and you're like, you're just 2221 01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:01,880 Speaker 2: throw in the back. I'm gonna go ahead and leave. 2222 01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:04,720 Speaker 2: Don't do any press conferences or anything like that I 2223 01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:07,640 Speaker 2: already mentioned. I mean the ready made thing here. If 2224 01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:11,240 Speaker 2: you're in this again goes I pro wrestling background. Immediately 2225 01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:14,920 Speaker 2: think to myself, well, Nathan's in this. Vegan Company need 2226 01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,480 Speaker 2: to have made this decision behind closed doors to do 2227 01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,600 Speaker 2: this thing and then create a new champion so that 2228 01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:24,839 Speaker 2: there's a new challenger for Joey Chestnut to go against 2229 01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:27,760 Speaker 2: that has something behind him. I people think is a failure, 2230 01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:31,480 Speaker 2: and of course he probably gets boat raced in the thing, 2231 01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:34,720 Speaker 2: but it creates another matchup, It creates another thing that. 2232 01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,800 Speaker 1: You would they have brought Kobyashi back though, well. 2233 01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:41,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, but I'm just saying like I don't know 2234 01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,840 Speaker 2: what kobea. I don't know what Kobyashi's skill set is. 2235 01:58:44,880 --> 01:58:45,080 Speaker 7: Now. 2236 01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how much he's lost, maybe he's lost 2237 01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:50,360 Speaker 2: a step or two or a bite or five or 2238 01:58:50,360 --> 01:58:53,320 Speaker 2: whatever it is. But I kind of look at it 2239 01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:56,160 Speaker 2: and just say, you're creating something. In twenty twenty four, 2240 01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:57,880 Speaker 2: it's like, hey, we didn't let Joey chest Nut in 2241 01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:01,120 Speaker 2: this other dude one. Then Chestnut comes out and he's like, yeah, 2242 01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:05,960 Speaker 2: that dude can't lace up my sneakers and bam, can't 2243 01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:08,000 Speaker 2: put on my bib or whatever it is. And then 2244 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:10,760 Speaker 2: you go handle it and you create that. But then, 2245 01:59:10,800 --> 01:59:14,000 Speaker 2: of course, yes, the Legend fight is the only two 2246 01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:19,560 Speaker 2: competitive veders anyone knows are Kobyashi and Joey chestnutt well. 2247 01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:22,120 Speaker 1: And I will say I am interested in watching the 2248 01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:24,080 Speaker 1: Joey Yeah, I'm not. I don't know that I will, 2249 01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:26,880 Speaker 1: but I am interested in watching Joey chestnun in Kobyashi 2250 01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:30,000 Speaker 1: because Kobyashi is the one guy that can compete. By 2251 01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:32,360 Speaker 1: the way, if you think they're trying to build up 2252 01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:35,280 Speaker 1: this next guy, j Mart, they're not gonna do a 2253 01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:37,800 Speaker 1: very good job. Because the winner of the hot dog 2254 01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:42,120 Speaker 1: eating contest eate fifty eight hot dogs at the Nathan's 2255 01:59:42,120 --> 01:59:45,280 Speaker 1: hot dog eating contest in the ten minute event. Joey 2256 01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:49,400 Speaker 1: Chestnutt had his own event where he ate fifty seven 2257 01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:53,720 Speaker 1: in five minutes, So in five minutes in half the time, 2258 01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:56,400 Speaker 1: he ate one less hot dog than the eventual champ. 2259 01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:57,560 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, Ja mart we got to 2260 01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:00,320 Speaker 1: get out of here. We think the cruise sche Shay 2261 02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:04,160 Speaker 1: producer Shay Merymack on the board, Steve Disager from my 2262 02:00:04,160 --> 02:00:07,320 Speaker 1: partner Jason Martin. I'm Maritoris. Download the podcast Bernie Friddos 2263 02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Next Fox Portraitio