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Speaker 1: Somebody is always gonna think your trash worse from Liberty

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Speaker 1: quarterback Malik Willis, that is that is what is on

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Speaker 1: two of the Draft Show. Welcome in, everybody. I am

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Speaker 1: Dave Hellman, your host. I am joined once again by

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's and the incomparable Dane Brugler from the Athletic

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Speaker 1: Fellow Us. You're not trash, somebody thinks I am. Though

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Speaker 1: that's the beauty of it. Somewhere there's always somebody out there.

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Speaker 1: No one at this table thinks that. I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Somebody at home listening to this

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Speaker 1: Don't look at that. But yeah, see, but nobody thinks

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Speaker 1: But somebody back at Mount Union is just like that

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Speaker 1: Brugler guy. Yeah, oh yeah, for sure we will name names.

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Speaker 1: They exist. That got way off the rails, way faster

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Speaker 1: to twenty eight. So the if I'm in a war

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Speaker 1: Dane talked me into it. I'm miss, I'm captain. Trade up? Now,

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Speaker 1: Draft Show. It is Wednesday, March the second. It is

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Speaker 1: the second segment of the show. You know what that means.

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Speaker 1: We'd like to get our listeners involved. Twitter on the

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Speaker 1: twenty Twitter Twitter, Twitter on the twenty You do, you

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Speaker 1: do pretty good job with that, just trying to follow

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Speaker 1: Jeff's lee. Honestly, that's what I try and do. So

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Speaker 1: talking about the depth of the draft, Dane, you said

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Speaker 1: this in the first segment, second third, maybe even fourth round,

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Speaker 1: and you you did. You talked about the depth of

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Speaker 1: the pass rusher position yesterday. If that's if that's where

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Speaker 1: you want to go with this, we can, but Troy

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Speaker 1: would like to know about a position or positions in

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Speaker 1: this draft where you feel like you can get a

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Speaker 1: better than expected player on Day three, like maybe fourth round. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think of like Jabriel Cox comes to mind, a

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Speaker 1: guy that we absolutely didn't expect to be there on

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Speaker 1: Day three. Any positions with depth like that, where we're

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Speaker 1: sitting there like, oh my god, like four of my

497
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Speaker 1: five top names on Saturday are are still available and

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they would be. I think it starts

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Speaker 1: with pass rusher. I mean, that's that's the deepest position

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Speaker 1: this year, and so there's a good chance that a

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Speaker 1: player you grade as a top one hundred pick in

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Speaker 1: this draft is still there in the fourth round because

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Speaker 1: there's just there's only so many spots for these guys,

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Speaker 1: and a few of them will get pushed down. A

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Speaker 1: guy like Josh Pascal from Kentucky six three, two seventy,

506
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Speaker 1: really good run defender all day. In most drafts, he's

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Speaker 1: a third round pick, and this draft might be a

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick. I think linebacker shapes up that way.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned JR bo Cox. I mean it could be

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Speaker 1: a similar thing this year where a linebacker like U, say,

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Speaker 1: Troy Anderson from Montana State. You know, maybe he falls

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Speaker 1: to the fourth round. He's he's a raw player, but

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Speaker 1: when you look at the athletic traits and what he's

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Speaker 1: going to grow into, gets you excited about what he

515
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Speaker 1: could be. I have heard his name a ton and

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Speaker 1: he's first of all, the backstory is great. I mean

517
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Speaker 1: he growing up in Montana. He was class valuedatorian, won

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Speaker 1: a state title in three different sports. You know that

519
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Speaker 1: do everything guy in high school, goes to Montana State,

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Speaker 1: started at quarterback, started at running back. He ranks top

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Speaker 1: ten in the school's all time history and rushing yards.

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Speaker 1: Moves the lineback, He's set the school record for single

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Speaker 1: season rushing touchdowns as a sophomore twenty one, moves a

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Speaker 1: linebacker and becomes a full time linebacker for just really

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Speaker 1: the past two years or for he missed last year

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Speaker 1: with the an injury. So but he has two years

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Speaker 1: of experience as a full time linebacker. And you know,

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Speaker 1: just don't make many guys that are sixty three and

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Speaker 1: a half to fifty that run like he does. And

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Speaker 1: I thought he got better and better with the more

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Speaker 1: defensive snaps he saw, So another guy that's raw and

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's an instant contributor for you, but again,

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Speaker 1: an investment where you feel like you're buying low and

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Speaker 1: getting a guy that's gonna blossom for you throughout your

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Speaker 1: time in your program. Yeah. I mean, coaches love those

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Speaker 1: six three, six four guys two and thirty pounds because

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Speaker 1: they can translate it whether it's on offense or defense.

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Speaker 1: That just sounds like a special team's ace. I mean

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Speaker 1: Troy and if he's not contributing as a starting linebacker

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Speaker 1: at some point in his career, he may be your

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Speaker 1: best special teams player throughout his career. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: maybe c J. Goodwins stuff like that. I was curious.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear about the safety position because I

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Speaker 1: see that as one of those where there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some really good players. Sterling Weatherford's up there for me,

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Speaker 1: Cam Taylor, Brett Kirby, Joseph Leon O'Neil junior from any

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Speaker 1: and m These are guys that I think could potentially

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Speaker 1: fall into that third, fourth, fifth round that once again

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Speaker 1: it's a deep class. Maybe it's got those those top

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Speaker 1: heavy guys like Kyle Hamilton, Dax Hill and company. But

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Speaker 1: there's that gap and then you can find some real

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Speaker 1: value later on as well. Yeah, I think that that's fair.

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Speaker 1: I think there are six safeties at the top that

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Speaker 1: are kind of the top guys who you're six. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Hamilton's at the top, Dax Hills right behind him. I

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Speaker 1: think those two are the top guys. Petrie Lewis seen

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Speaker 1: from Georgia, Brisker, Brian Cook. That next year would be

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Speaker 1: those four guys, and then you know, I really like

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Speaker 1: Kirby Joseph as a possible third rounder. Keep the name

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Speaker 1: Nick Cross from Maryland on the radar. He's gonna absolutely

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Speaker 1: kill it this week at the combine those testing numbers.

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Speaker 1: Teams are going to really buy into those. Nick Cross

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Speaker 1: is going to be a winner from this week and

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Speaker 1: be a guy that you know, we're talked at talking

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Speaker 1: more and more about a possible third round pery on

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Speaker 1: the Athletic on Monday morning. H J. T. Woods from Baylor. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know yesterday how Baylor brought up track team here.

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Speaker 1: He's one of those guys. I mean, he's maybe a

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Speaker 1: little undersize compared to what most safeties are just body

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Speaker 1: type wise, a little slender, but he could absolutely fly

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Speaker 1: and he makes plays um. Roan McKinley from Oregon, a

572
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Speaker 1: local kid from Carrollton, Uh, played at heburn. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that's gonna get dinged because he's not

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Speaker 1: fast and he's not big. But I think when you

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Speaker 1: when you look at his cover awareness, you look at

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Speaker 1: the way he can make plays in the ball. It's

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Speaker 1: six picks this year, so he can find the ball. Um,

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Speaker 1: But he's gonna take a little bit of a hit

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't have those elite physical traits. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's going to run this week because probably not

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Speaker 1: gonna run great. Yeah, So you know, Ron McKinley would

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Speaker 1: be one of those guys once we get out of

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Speaker 1: Day one and two in early day three, maybe a

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Speaker 1: guy you take a look at. Speaking of Day three selections,

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Speaker 1: I liked this question from a Mead a lot. He

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Speaker 1: would like you to compare Josh Ball Cowboys fourth round pick,

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Speaker 1: red shirt. Really didn't see much of him this year,

588
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Speaker 1: So still not sure what you have, But how would

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Speaker 1: he compare in this tackle class? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: that's obviously with him. There's you know, uh, off field

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Speaker 1: factors and all that, so you know, taking all that

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Speaker 1: out of a not into account here, you know, this

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Speaker 1: is a tackle class that I think it's one of

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Speaker 1: the stronger positions. I think, you know, edge rushers at

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Speaker 1: the top, and then I think receiver, linebacker, tackle might

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Speaker 1: be my next three. So it's a it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: deep tackle group. I think he'd be somewhere after you

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Speaker 1: list your top ten tackles and then he could be

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Speaker 1: somewhere right after that. So in that eleven to fifteen

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Speaker 1: range in terms of the top tackles this year. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think that he had so much ability with the

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Speaker 1: way he moves, uh that I think that's what you

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Speaker 1: bet on. You you bet on those movement skills that

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Speaker 1: you know he can mirror in space, he can he

605
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Speaker 1: can hold up verse speed, but also you know, drop

606
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Speaker 1: his anchor when he needs to do versus power. UM.

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Speaker 1: So I'm you know, we don't know what what what

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Speaker 1: what we have with him. So I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: hopefully that there's more clarity moving forward. But I don't

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Speaker 1: like him as a player last year in last year's class.

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Speaker 1: Trying to look at where I had him last year

612
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Speaker 1: in that class, but I would probably put him around

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Speaker 1: I like Braxton Jones at a Southern Utah as as

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Speaker 1: a guy kind of right in that middle group. I

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Speaker 1: think he would probably fit in behind him in that

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Speaker 1: in that category. But still another guy who's a developmental

617
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Speaker 1: player who I mean, of course we've already seen him

618
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Speaker 1: need a red shirt, but he could still turn into

619
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Speaker 1: a depth piece. I don't think he's ever gonna have

620
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Speaker 1: starting caliber players, so i'd probably still say right around

621
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Speaker 1: fifth round, six round class. I think this is a

622
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Speaker 1: better tackle class from a depth perspective than last year's.

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Speaker 1: Another guy in this class who I think is very

624
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Speaker 1: comparable as Kellen Dash from Arizona Stage, who doesn't have

625
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Speaker 1: the length that you want, but you talk about foot

626
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Speaker 1: quickness that that very similar to Ball from last year.

627
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Speaker 1: And Dish is a he's a local kid. He's from

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Speaker 1: somewhere in the DFW area. He's from Byron Nelson Trophy Club.

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Speaker 1: Right right right, there's twenty nine different cities in the DFW.

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Speaker 1: I got you if you can't. I appreciate that various

631
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Speaker 1: stewe point from Matt Uh. You know, Matt Zeke Elliott's

632
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Speaker 1: future starts to get murky after the twenty twenty two season,

633
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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is entering a contract year. With that in mind,

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Speaker 1: he would like some names of maybe some mid to

635
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Speaker 1: late round running backs, kind of like Tony was back

636
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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, to keep an eye on. This is

637
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Speaker 1: a pretty good running back class. Um, if you need

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. Uh. I don't think we're gonna

639
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Speaker 1: have a first round running back this year. Uh. And

640
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: then there's a few guys that should go on Day two,

641
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: but the value will be on Day three. And it

642
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: depends on you know, what type of back you're looking for.

643
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: If you're looking for a guy that can maybe be

644
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: a bell cow for you for you know, a guy

645
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: that can take those carries, maybe what they envisioned when

646
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: they drafted a bow Scarborough. You know that type of guy.

647
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: Abram Smith from Baylor. I think he was hoping you

648
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: would say that name. Tremendous seasons. Yes, he moved over

649
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: from linebacker to running back. I think he's he's only

650
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: his His his arrow continues to point up what he

651
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: did as a senior into what he did a senior Bowl.

652
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: M I won't be a top tester here, but I

653
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: think I'll hold his own. So I think he fits

654
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: in that mold I agree with you completely. He was

655
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: a running back in high school, had kind of played

656
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: both ways, and then was recruited as a running back,

657
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: made the full time switch to linebacker, where he actually

658
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: was very successful as a linebacker as a junior, one

659
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: of the top linebackers in the Big twelve. On of

660
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: course that Baylor defense that has been so vaulted over

661
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. And then they said, you

662
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: know what, we like what you could do with the

663
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: ball in your hands. And then he comes out and

664
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: just casually puts up sixteen hundred yards in his only

665
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: real full time season as the starting running back. And

666
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: he had a split backfield to a certain extent with

667
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: Tristan Edner. What he did he pull the opposite of

668
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurd Then, yeah, right, yeah, a little bit Baylor guys. Yeah,

669
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: but he's he just wanted to get on the field.

670
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: He talked about moving him the linebacker and he said,

671
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna get me on the field, and I'll

672
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: do it. As soon as Dane was talking about like

673
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: eating up carries and that Bruisers was sort of tailback,

674
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: he was the first one that comes to mind Appleen Kid,

675
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: Kyle and I talked about this in Mobile. I was

676
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: really I impressed. Is maybe strong, but I would I

677
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: liked what I saw from Rashad White, the Arizona State

678
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: guy in Mobile. For as big as he is, I

679
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: just thought he had he had impressive burst for a

680
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: bigger running back. In my opinion, he does. The key

681
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: for him will be catching the ball out of the

682
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: backfield and being that you know that third down guy

683
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: who you know can do different things for you and

684
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: move them outside the out of the backfield. And um,

685
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I don't I worry about him as

686
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: an inside runner Like I just I'm not sure that

687
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: it's he showed enough for me in terms of the

688
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: vision and the patience and the tempo to consistently give

689
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: you that. So I do worry about. Okay, a Defensei's

690
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: Rashad White out there. They know what's coming. They know, Okay,

691
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: Flare route, you know the Wheel route, that the Texas route,

692
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna they're gonna. Really that that's what

693
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: he does best, and so I think he needs to

694
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: expand what he does really well. I needs to expand

695
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: that a little bit just so keeps defenses guessing when

696
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: he's on the field. What about Davante Price out of FIU.

697
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't really know exactly how I feel about him,

698
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: because he's again another tall, lanky, bigger running back and

699
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: he's got some burst to it as well. Looks like

700
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: he could really kind of play that Tony Pollard role,

701
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: except he's bigger than Tony and a buy a couple

702
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: of inches. What do you think about him and his

703
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: ability out of the backfield? Could he potentially play a

704
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: role like that? Yeah? I mean I think he's watching

705
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: him on the FIU tape. I don't I don't necessarily

706
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: face it defense that he really challenged lenge him. You know,

707
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I could really tell you, uh, you know, just how

708
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: good he is. Um, I dive for a bigger back.

709
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: I expected more mistackles. I just didn't see enough of

710
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: that for a guy that's that size. But he's got

711
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: speed once he gets in the open field, he can scoop.

712
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: So um, I think he's he's another guy in a

713
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: day three range where uh you know, he'd be in

714
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: a shortlist of guys. He'd be looking at Kade and

715
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if this is a coincidence because of who

716
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: he wants to know about He said, Kate Dotton has

717
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: reportedly been linked to the Cowboys, which I like it.

718
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I take all of that stuff with so

719
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: many grains of salt at the combine because everys have

720
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: been linked to the Cowboys too. And on top of

721
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: the I mean, is it a formal interview? Is it informal?

722
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: Did they did they grab him in the hallway and say, hey,

723
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: we think you're a good player. I mean, there's no

724
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: way to know, but he wants to know about Kate Dotton,

725
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: his skill set, tight end out of Washington. For those

726
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: of y'all that are not flier, uh, just sort of

727
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: thumb thumb nail him for Kaide. I think one of

728
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: the reasons this Washington coaching staff was fired is because

729
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: they didn't get the ball enough to Kadoton. Simply put,

730
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: the offense was a knee mick this year for the Huskies,

731
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: and the Kadoton was their best player, the best player

732
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: on offense, and they could not get him the football.

733
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 1: Part of that was scheme, part of it was inability

734
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: of the quarterback to do it. So uh that and

735
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: it just he had his foot injury towards the end

736
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: of the year, and that foot injury kept him out

737
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: of Senior Bowl. It's going to keep him from working

738
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: out here at the Combine only major injuries ever had

739
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: and unfortunately it's it's kind of holding him back a

740
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: little bit. But I think he's a top five tight

741
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: end in this class. Uh, he might be the best

742
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: all around tight end in terms of what he gives

743
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: you as a receiver and as a blocker. Um, there's

744
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: just a lot to like about Kadoton who he is

745
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: right now and who he is is what are you

746
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: going to grow into? So because he has that injury,

747
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: maybe a get him a little bit later than you

748
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: then you thought you might. So if if a team

749
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: might the Cowboys want to go tight end and say

750
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: the late third round, and Kate Oughton would be an

751
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 1: outstanding pick in my opinion. Where do you have him

752
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: compared to Widemeyer from Texas A and M. Because I

753
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: agree with you in terms of they're the most complete.

754
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I think Otton's more complete, but Widemeyer maybe has a

755
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: higher ceiling. Is there any kind of big difference between

756
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: those two for you? I think so. I like Kate

757
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: Outen a lot more than like Widemeyer. Um. I mean

758
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that because they are. Oughton's like five

759
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: on my tight end rankings, Widemeyer six, so you know

760
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: they're okay, they're close. But in my opinion, like Oughton,

761
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: I would feel really good taking on day two, where

762
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: with Widemeyer, I don't. I think he's a Day three guy.

763
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: Just my opinion. I think the top five tight ends

764
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: this year are kind of set. In my opinion, I

765
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: think it's not in the order. I'm still a little

766
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out. But Trey McBride, Greg Dulsik,

767
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: Jeremy Ruckert, Isaiah Likely Kate Oughten. To me, those are

768
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: the top five tight ends this year. It's just you

769
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: get to figure out what's the correct order, what's the

770
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: correct project action in terms of where you should be

771
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: drafting these guys. They're different with what they offer. Um,

772
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: but Aughton, if you're looking for that, like Jarwin Dalton Schultz,

773
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: I think Oughton fits a lot with what this team

774
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: could be looking for. Alfredo wants us to put our

775
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: GM hats on. He says, what would you you, not

776
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: anybody else, not the Jacksonville Jaguars, what would you do

777
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: at number one overall? With that Jacksonville pick. Oh uh,

778
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: that's well. Aidan Hudginson's my top player on my on

779
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: my board, so I'd be disingenuous if I didn't say him. Um,

780
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: but you know, the Jaguars have invested a lot in

781
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: the pass rush position in the first round or you know,

782
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: in recent years, So it would be it would come

783
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: down to Adane Hudson and Ikey Aquanu. For me, Uh,

784
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: Ikey's my number two player, my top offensive lineman. I

785
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: think that he's uh really really good right now and

786
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: he's getting better and better, so uh, you know, it's uh,

787
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: it would be come down to one of those two

788
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: players if I want to get better pass rusher. Wanted

789
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: to upgrade my offensive line either Adan Hutchinson a Quandu.

790
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: For me, it's funny because I'm looking at the edge rushers.

791
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: I think Tibodeau's in that conversation for me as well.

792
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: I kind of want to know more about him off

793
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: the field and kind of how the interviews go this

794
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: week based off of what Dane was talking about yesterday,

795
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: But just for this exercise, I would throw Tibidau in

796
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: that conversation. I see my like a more or a

797
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: less poor Man's Miles Garrett is kind of what I

798
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: look at with Cavon Thibadeau, and then I also see

799
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa whenever I'm looking at aida Aidan Hutchinson. So

800
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: I like their potentials there. I like Aquanu for the Jags, though,

801
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: I'm honestly with him because I want to protect Trevor Lawrence.

802
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: I want to find a way to really build into

803
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: the future with him, and I think it starts by

804
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: building an offensive line up front and maybe trying to

805
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: find something on the defensive side of the football, either

806
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: later in the draft or through free agency, because they

807
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: have some money to play around there. In free agency,

808
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: maybe that's where they add veteran talent on the defensive side.

809
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 1: But build a young, cheap offensive line with a guy

810
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: like a Quantu who's gonna come out and play nasty

811
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: for you and protect your quarterback at all costs. I

812
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: hope you got your Aquanu at number one bets in

813
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: early because uh, you're feeling confident about that. Well, yeah,

814
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: now you can say in my I've only done two

815
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: month draft. One was in December, one was m January.

816
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: My second one, I had a Quantu at number one

817
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: overall and an hour after the MOK draft went up,

818
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: his odds to go number one went from like a

819
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: thousand and one to about twenty five to one to

820
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: kind of impact this great kingmaker. I mean, unfortunately, I

821
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: love like I love questions like that because you want

822
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: to try to create a difference of opinion. And that's

823
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: what I was about to say, Like, I just think

824
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of boring this year because

825
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: it's an edge rusher or a tackle. I don't know

826
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: who else it could be for a team that just

827
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 1: drapped to Trevor Lawrence. Yep, So I would and you know, Dane,

828
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: I'm such a coward, Like I'm not going to sit

829
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: here and be like, it's gotta be this guy. But

830
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: like I would take Evan Neil or Aquanu whichever one

831
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: you feel better about, don't really care what your preference is,

832
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: or Hutchinson or Thibodeau. I would say I would. I

833
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: feel way more comfortable with Hutchinson just based on what

834
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I know right now, I will say they're both great.

835
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Pairing Josh Allen with either one of those guys sounds

836
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: very very fun. Sure, But man, how could you do again?

837
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: Like we talked about yesterday, and there's some irony there

838
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: because the Bengals didn't draft a tackle and got to

839
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But why wouldn't you invest in what

840
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: you do best right now, which is having Trevor Lawrence

841
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: like keep that guy on his feet. That is your

842
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: clearest path to success. Well there's not a Jamar Chase

843
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville the draft either, So there's there's a conversation.

844
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: You look at you like, you just look at the

845
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: big names, the sexy names, any of the corners enticier

846
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: at all? You're Boystingley. If this was February of twenty twenty,

847
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: I'd be standing on the table Force saying if you

848
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: flip his twenty nineteen and twenty twenty one seasons, you

849
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: just flip him. He goes number one. Absolutely. Yeah, No,

850
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: I think I remember doing the Draft show that year

851
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: and being like we're talking about Christian Fulton and it's like, yeah,

852
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: but the guy coming down the lines of like top five.

853
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't feel comfortable with that right now,

854
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: not based on what the last two years have been. Like.

855
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 1: Same thing with again Thibodeaux. There's stuff to figure out there.

856
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: Um who else, I mean all the there's not a

857
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: receiver that fits that mold. Kyle Hamilton. What was the

858
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: last time a receiver even went number one overall? Keisha? Yeah, yeah,

859
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: that's the last time. And I'm no, yeah, there's not

860
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: There's not a guy. You could make the argument that

861
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's the best player in the draft, the best

862
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: talent in the draft. And is that just positional value?

863
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: Do you have? Well? Yeah, do you have the guts

864
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: to take a safety number one overall? I mean the

865
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: last safety that went top two overall was back in

866
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: like nineteen ninety one when Belichick drafted Eric Turner. Do

867
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: you see all? So it just doesn't happen all of them.

868
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: And as long as we're doing the LSU thing, the

869
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: last safe like Jamal Adams win top five and that

870
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: has not really panned out the way that you would

871
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: prefer for anybody. Get confused. When I see mock drafts

872
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: of the Jets taken a safety at four, I was like,

873
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: they didn't really kind of learn that lesson our value

874
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: just doesn't match up with what they'd like to do,

875
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: which again, like it's a cliche, but the cornerstone positions,

876
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: you know, Jags don't need a quarterback. There's not a

877
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: cornerback that I'm sold on doing that like being worthy

878
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: of number one overall. Now you're looking at edge and tackle.

879
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: There it is, and I would rather have a tackle

880
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: if I just spent a number one overall pick on

881
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Mario wants to know, is it is it

882
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: possible for the Cowboys to get wiped out? Like? Can

883
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: you envision that? Yeah, at twenty four, I'd be surprised,

884
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: just because I think, you know, like the difference between

885
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: pick fifteen and fifty, there's just not that much difference.

886
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: And so you're telling me that they can't find a

887
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: player that they like in that range that they would

888
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: feel feel good about there. Now, obviously you have your

889
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: wish list, you have who you really want, and could

890
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: they get wiped out of their top options? Sure, I

891
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: think that's that's possible. You know, linder Bomb's gone, all

892
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: the pass rushers are gone. Um, you know, say Kenyan

893
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: Greene's gone. Um. I think that is semi realistic. But

894
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: there's I think there's gonna be someone that they're gonna

895
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: feel comfortable with um at that point in the draft,

896
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: and you know they're they're gonna get and and you

897
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: know what what what draft was? It was it thirteen

898
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: when they drafted Travis Frederick. Yeah, they kind of you

899
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: know that that whole you know, weren't sure what they

900
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: were gonna go, and they traded back and they still

901
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it worked out. Okay, UM, I think

902
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: with this this group, they're they're gonna find someone they

903
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: liked there. I would be very surprised if they couldn't

904
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: find a player that they didn't think very highly of

905
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: UM at that point in the draft. Now, I think

906
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm with you because even when you look at it

907
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 1: and we talked through the ten names that we feel

908
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: like are there, if you wanted to stretch that to

909
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: fifteen that are locks to go in front of twenty four,

910
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: I still see ten other names. So even with the

911
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: fifteen guys that you think are going to be out

912
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: of your reach, there's another ten fifteen guys that you

913
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: still feel great about taking at twenty four. And it's

914
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: different for every conversation you have. Some people will like

915
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: the fact that Zion Zion Johnson could potentially be there

916
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: twenty four. Others might not like it. But depending on

917
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: what this coaching staff does, there's going to be people

918
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: in the room pounding on the table for somebody that's

919
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: at twenty four because they liked those prospects. I'm not

920
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: falling for this banana and the tailpipe in twenty twenty two.

921
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: Because we stress out about it every year and more

922
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: often than not it works out pretty well. I mean, ironically,

923
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: they got wiped away from their cornerbacks last year. Yeah, so,

924
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: I mean that did happen, but those were elite quarterbacks corners,

925
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: and then they still had two names. They still wound

926
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: up with a choice of two guys that were named

927
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: All proses rookies. Yeah, yeah, it worked out all right.

928
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: One last one from our buddy Connor, friend of the show,

929
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: Sam Williams, old Miss Edge Rusher. He wants he's got

930
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: some off the field issues, kind of talk about who

931
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: he is as a prospect and where would he be

932
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: without like, how how highly would you rate him without

933
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: the off field and how will that affect his dress.

934
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: We talked about contacts and how important it is with

935
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: these guys understanding where they're from. And he was a

936
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: basketball guy growing up, that was his focus. Um, and

937
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: he goes to high school, UM and is a football player. Uh,

938
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: you know, guy in some trouble in high school, had

939
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: a transfer a senior year, has to go to Juco

940
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: Route because he's not he you know, doesn't have the

941
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: grades for football, didn't have the pedigree either. Really Uh,

942
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: just as a relatively new football player who was again

943
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: always a basketball player in most of his life, goes

944
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: to Juco Route, does really really well, then goes to

945
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: Old Miss. Ran into some trouble there, but he was

946
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: cleared to stay on the field, and this past year

947
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: he was really productive All SEC player. Uh. There's a

948
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: little bit of stiffness in his rush, but he's got acceleration. Uh,

949
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: he can make plays verse to run. As long if

950
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: you're comfortable with the person, you're comfortable with his background

951
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: and everything that went on behind the scenes, you're gonna

952
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: feel comfortable drafting this guy somewhere on day two. And

953
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get a pass rusher that you're

954
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna make as part of your rotation right away, and

955
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: then a guy that eventually you think can starve for

956
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: you down the road. He was added to the Senior

957
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Bowl week late right he was he was at NFLPA Collegibowl,

958
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: that's right. Then injuries he got added late to to

959
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: the roster for the Senior Bowl. Ye had a pretty

960
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: good week too. Would you on the field, would you

961
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: imagine and I mean beauties in the eye of the beholder,

962
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: right like you can't predict what all thirty two teams

963
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: are gonna think, But would you guess that that his

964
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: his his past is enough to push him into day three,

965
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: probably just because um, you know, uh, it was something

966
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: that he was cleared pretty quickly. But still, you know,

967
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: more teams dig and you know he had an incident

968
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: in high school then involved a knife like a pocket knife,

969
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: and you know that kicked out of school for that.

970
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: I think that it's possible, very possible that he's still

971
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: around in the fourth, fifth round. But I still think

972
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: there's a good chance there will be at least one

973
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: team that is you know it is okay with everything

974
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: and just wants to buy low on the passworks. Potential.

975
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Wonderful batch of questions. We appreciate it. We will be

976
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: right back after this break to wrap up this Wednesday show.

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Speaker 1: Wrapping up Wednesday's episode of the Draft show, I'm Dave Hellman,

1012
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: joined by Kyle Yeomans and Dane Brugler of The Athletic.

1013
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: We will have one more show for y'all on Thursday,

1014
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: which ironic, Well, I mean, I'm nothing if not transparent.

1015
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: We still won't have seen any damn drills by tomorrow.

1016
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: I mean to be going on while we record. Yeah, actually,

1017
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: there are, there are some drills. There's a potential for

1018
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: another guest there too. Oh oh, Kyle, can you tell?

1019
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Speaker 1: Can you tell? Kyle's hosted things in the past. I've

1020
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: learned from the talent coaches the tease is a powerful thing.

1021
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: I have heard whispers on the wind that sprinkles. Cowboys

1022
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: Executive vice president of Personnel Will McClay might be joining

1023
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: us excited about that. It's could be great. Will is

1024
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: always very good with his time after the draft. If

1025
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: he actually sits down with us during Combine week and

1026
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: gives us a segment, that would be pretty amazing. I

1027
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: think it'd be great. And by the way, it should

1028
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: be up by the time this is posted. But we

1029
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: got a chance to sit down with Stephen Jones and

1030
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: talk about a couple of things about Talk Combine. I try,

1031
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: like I try to keep the Cowboys weeds off of

1032
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: this show. But that was a draft interview for sure.

1033
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: For sure, we got into into some prospect talk, into

1034
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: some drill talk. So that'll be on the site. Yeah,

1035
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: depending on when you're listening to this, it's probably already there. Yeah,

1036
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: it probably is so, but yeah, keep tune for that.

1037
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: In the meantime, Kyle, you speaking of tease, do you

1038
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: tease this in the first segment? Not on purpose, but

1039
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: I did. Why on earth would you want to trade

1040
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: up in this draft? Well, because of kind of what

1041
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: we were talking about earlier. If you're telling me that

1042
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: you can get up nine spots in the draft, I'm

1043
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: looking at thirteen. I know that's eleven. It is a

1044
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: massive jump. That is a big jump. If you can

1045
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: tell me you can maybe move in front of the

1046
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: Eagles either at their nineteenth pick, I would get in

1047
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: front of them. Yeah, if you can get in front

1048
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: of them at nineteen, or you can get in front

1049
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: of them at fifteen and ensure that you get your

1050
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: top prospect on the board, depending on how much they

1051
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: like them. I like Tyler Linderbaum enough to go and

1052
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: do that. I don't know if they do. That's the

1053
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: thing is the Cowboys. Are they willing to do that?

1054
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: I also don't want to give up fifty six in

1055
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: order to do that. I don't want to give up

1056
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: that second round pick. I told you two weeks ago.

1057
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: Don't give me that work. You're gonna jump nine spots

1058
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: in the first round and hold onto your second round pick.

1059
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: That's tough. Maybe if it's that cheap, then yeah, let's

1060
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: talk about it. I don't think the nine would happen.

1061
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: I think it would be eleven, not eleven, excuse me,

1062
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen. Maybe in there somewhere if you wanted to

1063
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: trade with New Orleans, if they wanted to trade back

1064
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: and maybe get a better view of the land for

1065
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Seventeen. Maybe the Chargers don't necessarily want to

1066
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: make their pick there and they want to trade back

1067
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I don't usually feel comfortable speaking

1068
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: for Dane, but I'm just Dane. He's looking at me.

1069
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: Give me the pick, Stane, Right, what is it gonna take.

1070
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: It would have to be one of like my top

1071
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 1: six players. One of those guys would have to fall,

1072
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, and for me to have to make that

1073
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: type of move, Yeah, I'm not making that move for Linderbaum.

1074
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm not making that move for Do I have to

1075
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: give up fifty six in order to make it happen

1076
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: if you're talking about eleven spots, yeah, yeah, see, I

1077
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Then I'm okay with that.

1078
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: The chart, the chart kind of goes out the window

1079
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: in the first round a little bit. I mean, you

1080
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: can still, especially it's based on the prospect pool. You

1081
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 1: can exactly like you you dictate the terms when you're

1082
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: talking about the first round. That's like those trades get

1083
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: out of whack All Giants and Bears last year whenever

1084
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: they were at eleven behind the Cowboys to go up

1085
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: and get justin fields, that was a massive number. It's

1086
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 1: not going to take that massive number to go up

1087
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: seven spots eight spots again this year because there's not

1088
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: that high quarterback pool that you have to pull from.

1089
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: As long as we're doing this and Dane, I would

1090
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: love your inputs. I mean, I'll be honest. We've we've

1091
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: talked about Tyler Linderbaum a lot and we will keep

1092
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: doing it. And that's gonna happen. That's fine. But I

1093
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: feel myself coming around on this thought process, like I

1094
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: almost feel like we're making a bigger deal of Tyler

1095
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: Bottish than we need to because like I look, I

1096
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: look at it, Tyler Bottish, fourth round pick. He's been fine.

1097
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: He definitely he's got some stuff to work on. Definitely,

1098
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: the interior of this offensive line was a weak point.

1099
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: Sure was he so bad that that should be like

1100
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: the where Waldo situation, especially when you consider left guard

1101
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: was equally a problem and oh, by the way, they

1102
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: don't really have one right now. Connor Williams is a

1103
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: free agent. Connor McGovern replaced him in the lineup and

1104
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: quickly got yanked again. Doesn't inspire a ton of confidence

1105
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: in me. And so, like, when I'm thinking about these

1106
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: names that you fixate on in the first round, I

1107
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: start to lean toward Kenyon Green as a more intriguing option,

1108
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: because if you play Tyler Beatish between the best guard

1109
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: in football and a first round pick, he might look

1110
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: at hell of a lot better. That's that's fair, absolutely,

1111
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: And I personally I'd rather go after, say a Luke

1112
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: Fortner in the third round and have him compete for

1113
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: that job. Fortner is going to give you center guard versatility.

1114
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna help you upgrade the offensive line. But I

1115
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: think your point is valid. Where you upgrade that other

1116
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: guard spot and all of a sudden Tyler beatis, you know,

1117
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: all of a sudden his play goes up as well

1118
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: his performance. So that's that's very fair. I think it's

1119
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: fair to look at this and say, okay, well, let's

1120
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: look at last year, the first how many picks for

1121
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were defensive five or six. I believe that's

1122
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: rare and unprecedented. Right this year, it could be the opposite.

1123
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: It really could be. We could see the first five

1124
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: picks for the Cowboys being offensive. This is going to

1125
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: be an offensive heavy draft, and offensive line, tight end,

1126
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: probably receiver. Those three positions it's it's gonna be, you know,

1127
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: make up three of the first probably four picks the

1128
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys make, in my opinion. So let me get this straight.

1129
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: So you're not saying go away from offensive line in

1130
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: the first You're saying potentially pulled Kenyon Green up to

1131
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: the Tyler linderbomb sort of scenario there. Yeah, And I

1132
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: want to be if Tyler Linderbaum was their pick, I

1133
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: would be happy with that. Sure, no problem at all.

1134
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: I just again, we've got four months of airtime to

1135
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: fill and only so much we can say. And I

1136
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: just kind of I get the sense that, like he's

1137
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: the default, people become fixated on him to the point

1138
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 1: where I'm like, well, hang on now, like there are

1139
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: other ways we can improve this without just obsessing over

1140
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: improving a center where you have a young starter who's

1141
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: not been great but also not been awful. Well. I

1142
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: think you bring up great points because right now you

1143
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: look at the contract situation, Beyotish is on the team.

1144
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: Your starter at left guard is not on the team

1145
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: at the moment, that's Connor Williams. I mean, would you rather,

1146
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: would you rather go, like you know, training camp is

1147
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: wrapping up in early September, late August. Would you rather

1148
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Beyotish as your starting center or Connor mcgovernors your

1149
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: starting left guard? What would you prefer? I think I

1150
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: would probably still go with Tyler Beyotish as a starting center. Agree.

1151
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: I agree. The only thing that throws a wrench into

1152
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: that conversation is if they're willing to move Lyle Collins

1153
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: to left guard. But we're getting the thought process that

1154
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. We kind of regardless, we

1155
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: get the inkling here from getting to you know, the

1156
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: beauty of the combine, we have to go out and

1157
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: talk to talk. I don't get the feeling that that

1158
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: is in the cards. I don't think so either. And

1159
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: if that's done in the cards, then I think I'm

1160
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: more on board with the green pick than a lender

1161
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: Bomb pick. I mean not more so. I think both

1162
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: are great players. And they're right there with each other.

1163
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 1: But I would be more enticed by the green pick

1164
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,479
Speaker 1: or trying to upgrade that guard spot rather because either

1165
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: way you're looking at it as a quarterback behind it.

1166
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: In that interior pressure. That was an absolute problem on

1167
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: the back half of the schedule this season. And he

1168
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: of course had this shoulder, he had the cav he

1169
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: had the angle, he has had all these injuries. You

1170
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: got to protect Dak Prescott, and in order to do that,

1171
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: you're going to have to upgrade one of those two

1172
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: positions early in this draft, before really you even look

1173
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: at some other spots. Dan, you're so intuitive. Again, we

1174
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: get we get to come out here and we talk

1175
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: to people. Somebody was joking with us yesterday, were like, yeah,

1176
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: talk talk up how we need defenders, talk up how

1177
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: we're going defense heavy. Again, don't let anybody. Let's not

1178
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: put it out there that we're hunting offense, which maybe

1179
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: that's maybe it's extreme to say they're hunting offense, but

1180
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: when you think about the potential issues at receiver, not

1181
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: even potential, no matter what happens with a Marii Cooper,

1182
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: they got holes to fill there. Tight end is a

1183
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: problem spot for this team interior offensive line, and then

1184
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: even down the line. You can throw running back in

1185
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: there as well as rusher and wide receiver are not

1186
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: out of the question in the first two rounds either.

1187
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: A chance. This team wants to be explosive on offense,

1188
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: and you know, we saw flashes of that throughout the season,

1189
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: but in order to be more consistently explosive, they have

1190
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,479
Speaker 1: work to do. And it starts at on the offensive line,

1191
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: starts with uh, you know, targets on the outside. Um,

1192
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: there's there's a different directions they could go. Tight End

1193
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: is gonna look different. The tight end ut charts gonna

1194
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: look very different next year. So this is a tight

1195
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: end draft where I would feel very comfortable waiting until

1196
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: the fourth round of Draft one. I mean that that's

1197
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: kind of what they did with Dalton Schultz. I mean

1198
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: you're kind of, you know, maybe go that direction again

1199
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: with targeting one of these guys in the fourth round,

1200
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: feeling good about who you're getting at that point. So yeah,

1201
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: this is ah, this is gonna be an offensive heavy draft.

1202
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys real quick before we get out

1203
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: of here, Jeff Kavanaugh is not here to do it.

1204
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: So I'll speak for him. But can you sell me

1205
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: on a trade down? Like how attractive does that? How

1206
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: attractive does that look to you? Given this talent pool. Yeah,

1207
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: and I think obviously it's tough when you're talking about

1208
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: picking twenty four. You don't know how the first twenty

1209
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: three picks go. You don't know who's on the board

1210
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: for you. But if someone's offering you, say, a package

1211
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: of Day two picks, that that's awfully appealing. But it's

1212
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: gonna sting a little bit to move out of the

1213
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: first round if that's what if a team's moved up

1214
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: to get a quarterback or um, you know, I think

1215
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: I would love to trade back a few spots and

1216
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: still stay in the first round, still have my first

1217
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: round pick, and then pick up an extra Day two pick.

1218
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: To me, that would be an ideal scenario because again,

1219
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you're getting wiped out there at twenty four.

1220
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: I just want I just want Day two picks, that's

1221
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: all I want. That sounds fun. You stack them up,

1222
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: you sifties picks. I mean that. Yeah, I don't know

1223
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: about well, we'll finish it with where we started it. Yeah,

1224
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: LaQuan Treadwell, I don't know. I don't know, if I

1225
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, if I actually want to be making

1226
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: those decisions. Hey, that'll do it for day two of

1227
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: the Draft Show. We got one more, hopefully joined by

1228
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: Will McClay. We'll see about that. We will check in

1229
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: with y'all tomorrow. Thank you so much for listening. We'll

1230
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Speaker 1: talk to you next time. This has been a production

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