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Speaker 2: Hi, everyone, welcome back to Facing Evil. I'm Rasha Peccarero.
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Speaker 3: Exactly, Rasha and It's going to be the core element
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Speaker 3: the context each week by walking us through the case
Speaker 3: details at the top of each episode before we dive
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Speaker 2: Yes, so we hope you enjoy this new, updated format
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Speaker 3: So today we're talking about a stocking case that led
Speaker 3: to a murder that I personally remember my sister telling
Speaker 3: me about when it happened, and it was such a
Speaker 3: shame because it seemed completely avoidable. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: Sadly, I knew about it when it was going on
Speaker 2: because it was very close to me. It was in Vancouver, Washington,
Speaker 2: just outside of Portland, Oregon, and I I have a
Speaker 2: dear friend who was very close to the victim, and
Speaker 2: that victim was Tiffany Hill, and we are going to
Speaker 2: talk about how she was murdered by her estranged husband.
Speaker 2: You know, the light though in this darkness about Tiffany's
Speaker 2: story is that there was some redemption that happened after
Speaker 2: her death, because it led to the passage of a
Speaker 2: law that is aimed at stopping this from happening to
Speaker 2: anyone ever again.
Speaker 3: And we'll get to talk about that law with someone
Speaker 3: who was good friends with Tiffany and who was absolutely
Speaker 3: instrumental in getting it.
Speaker 2: Passed yes, and that good friend is one of my
Speaker 2: dearest friends, and I'm honored that she'll be with us today.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately that law that she helped pass hasn't fixed everything,
Speaker 2: and we're going to get into why that's the case
Speaker 2: as well. It's just a compelling story altogether. So now
Speaker 2: our producer is going to take us through today's case.
Speaker 1: The pictures of Tiffany Hill may remind you. She was
Speaker 1: a marine, a mom to three kids.
Speaker 4: And Tiffany was the victim of domestic violence that ultimately
Speaker 4: took her life.
Speaker 5: This week, Tiffany Hill of Vancouver was laid to rest
Speaker 5: in her hometown of Brooklyn, New York. Her tragic death
Speaker 5: still surreal for her mother and three children.
Speaker 4: If she'd been given in two or three minutes to
Speaker 4: think about it before he showed up or driven off,
Speaker 4: she was in her car, she could have driven off
Speaker 4: and maybe driven straight to the sheriff's office.
Speaker 1: Tiffany Hill was a young mother of three who was
Speaker 1: killed by her estranged husband in twenty nineteen. Tiffany had
Speaker 1: met her husband, Keeland Hill, while in the Marines. She
Speaker 1: had received a number of high honors in the military
Speaker 1: and was largely regarded as a warm and compassionate person.
Speaker 1: Tiffany was honorably discharged in two thousand and eight and
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter mar kid and that's when the trouble began.
Speaker 1: Keeland was a regular abuser, prone to mental manipulation in
Speaker 1: physical violence. In twenty sixteen, the family moved to Vancouver, Washington. There,
Speaker 1: neighbors were call seeing police cards in front of their
Speaker 1: house regularly. One neighbor said he had a bad feeling
Speaker 1: about Keeland. He told a reporter quote, he would just
Speaker 1: stare me down for some reason. He just had an
Speaker 1: eerie feeling to him end quote. In September twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: an incident occurred where Keelan threw Tiffany to the ground.
Speaker 1: One of the children had called a relative and Tiffany
Speaker 1: tried to use Alexa to call nine one one, but
Speaker 1: Keeland had unplugged the device so that she couldn't. After
Speaker 1: this incident, Keeland was arrested and charged with fourth degree assault,
Speaker 1: and Tiffany finally decided to leave him. She then obtained
Speaker 1: a no contact order, which barred Keeland from going within
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty feet of Tiffany or contacting her
Speaker 1: in person or over the phone, but then Keielan attempted
Speaker 1: to purchase a bolt action rifle from a Portland Walmart.
Speaker 1: He told the employee he wanted to quote take care
Speaker 1: of vermin on his property end quote. Over the next
Speaker 1: few weeks, Keeland would appear at restaurants where Tiffany was
Speaker 1: taking her children. She called the police and they found
Speaker 1: a tracking device a fixed to her car. She told
Speaker 1: detectives quote, I know he's going to kill me if
Speaker 1: he's not held accountable for his actions. I'm so scared
Speaker 1: for my life and my kids' lives end quote. Keielan
Speaker 1: then went to jail, where a judge set bail at
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Tiffany's lawyers asked to
Speaker 1: have the bail set to two million, but that request
Speaker 1: was denied and Keeland was able to post bail. Four
Speaker 1: days later, when Tiffany was picking up her kids from school,
Speaker 1: Keeland approached the car and opened fire with a semi
Speaker 1: automatic pistol, killing Tiffany in injuring her mother. He sped
Speaker 1: off and was chased by police before hitting afternoon traffic.
Speaker 1: He then got out of the car and shot and
Speaker 1: killed himself Tiffany Hill had repeatedly worn the authorities of
Speaker 1: the danger she was in, and Kieland expressed to multiple people,
Speaker 1: including police, his intent to do harm. Despite this, he
Speaker 1: was somehow able to stalk Tiffany and obtain a gun.
Speaker 1: And so who was Tiffany Hill, How was Keeland Hill
Speaker 1: able to stalk and kill Tiffany? And how has her
Speaker 1: case changed things, if at all, when it comes to
Speaker 1: intimate partner violence and stalking today.
Speaker 2: For our discussion today, I am incredibly honored to welcome
Speaker 2: a very good friend of mine to the show. And
Speaker 2: she is someone who was incredibly involved in the aftermath
Speaker 2: of Tiffany's case, and that person is Reene Sunby.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much. So.
Speaker 2: Reen was the president of the PTA of Sarah J.
Speaker 2: Anderson Elementary School in Vancouver, Washington, when her daughter was
Speaker 2: at Anderson Elementary and two of Tiffany's children were there,
Speaker 2: and she was instrumental in passing the Tiffany Hill Act
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, which we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: in a minute. So for now it Coomo may welcome
Speaker 2: to Facing Evilreen.
Speaker 3: So honored to have you here and to you know,
Speaker 3: just listen to you share your story. We're very appreciative.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Okay, Reen, you know, as you're such a
Speaker 2: beautiful friend of mine, you know how much Yvett and
Speaker 2: I always want to focus on the victim, right because
Speaker 2: before they were a victim, they were a bright shining
Speaker 2: light in all of our lives. And I know that
Speaker 2: Tiffany was for you. So can you tell our listeners
Speaker 2: how did you know Tiffany?
Speaker 6: Tiffany was also on the PTA at Sarah J. Anderson
Speaker 6: I probably, I think I met her in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 6: towards the end of that school year where her oldest
Speaker 6: was going to a different school that year. She transferred
Speaker 6: her to Sarah J. Anderson in nineteen so she could
Speaker 6: spend her last year at Anderson, So she became a
Speaker 6: lot more involved and right out of the shoot. Sadly,
Speaker 6: that first PTA meeting we had in September is when
Speaker 6: she shared what was going on in her household with me.
Speaker 6: She had actually suffered a concussion and had sent me
Speaker 6: a text message that she didn't think she'd be at
Speaker 6: our meeting because she had a concussion, And as naive
Speaker 6: as I was back then, my first response was, oh,
Speaker 6: my gosh, were you in a car accident, because for me,
Speaker 6: a concussion is either sports or car accident. You know,
Speaker 6: you have your your blinders on when your life is
Speaker 6: going well and healthy. So I had no idea that she.
Speaker 4: Could have possibly meant someone else had given it to her,
Speaker 4: and that she came to the meeting, and that night
Speaker 4: is when her best friend Karina had told her, you
Speaker 4: need to tell her what's going on, and you need
Speaker 4: to tell her right now. So that was the night
Speaker 4: she shared with me what had happened, what was going
Speaker 4: on in her life, and how she was being abused.
Speaker 3: Wow, can you tell us about Tiffany, you know, like
Speaker 3: what was her personality? What was her energy like? You know,
Speaker 3: when you know she was in a happy place, you know,
Speaker 3: or having a great day, Like what was that light like?
Speaker 6: Uh? It was?
Speaker 4: It literally was brighter than a star, brighter than a planet.
Speaker 4: She literally it was as bright as the sun. She
Speaker 4: worked so hard in everything she did. Her kids's education
Speaker 4: was top priority. Her kids would come in the pta
Speaker 4: room and one of her kiddos was in first grade
Speaker 4: and he would come in with a second or third
Speaker 4: grade workbook.
Speaker 6: She was a giver from her very sincerest heart.
Speaker 4: She would give everything she possibly could, and you know,
Speaker 4: we joke she was the trifecta. She was Puerto Rican,
Speaker 4: she was from Brooklyn, and she was in the Marines,
Speaker 4: so we would joke, nobody's messing with you, no one so.
Speaker 4: And it just that endearing family quality and family to
Speaker 4: her wasn't just blood. It was her community. Her community
Speaker 4: was very important to her. She loved doing all things
Speaker 4: for anyone at the school. She would bake constantly for
Speaker 4: the staff and everything was so good. I finally didn't
Speaker 4: even think about it. After she passed, I found her
Speaker 4: on pinterested followed her because I wanted some of her recipes.
Speaker 4: It's just, you know, all the things. One of the
Speaker 4: moms at the school had later said, you know, Tiffany
Speaker 4: was what all of us wanted to be, and that
Speaker 4: was the hashtag mom goals. Like literally, she you wanted
Speaker 4: to be the mom that she was.
Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Trevor here, just a quick producer note for you.
Speaker 1: There was some background noise in Rene's original environment that
Speaker 1: we had her recording in, so we decided to ask
Speaker 1: her to move locations. So from this point moving forward,
Speaker 1: you will notice that there is a slight change in
Speaker 1: her audio. So just wanted to let you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now back to the discussion.
Speaker 2: Did you ever yourself witness anything happen in front of
Speaker 2: you leading up to that horrific murder?
Speaker 4: I did not. I feel like I'm a pretty empathetic,
Speaker 4: checking into feelings kind of person. I think I get
Speaker 4: a fairly good read on people when I first meet them.
Speaker 4: And I distinctly remember after everything happened and I was
Speaker 4: processing everything grief with the counselor that I had seen.
Speaker 4: I remember telling her. I can distinctly remember the first
Speaker 4: time I saw him in the PTA room and I
Speaker 4: physically took a step backwards when I walked in the room.
Speaker 2: You could feel that energy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was one of those people that you know,
Speaker 4: I look back on it now and I can see
Speaker 4: the gas lighting you know that he was doing. But
Speaker 4: it's this giant personality that's not real, so it comes
Speaker 4: off big, but you know that it's not genuine. And
Speaker 4: then before I knew what was happening in August, we'd
Speaker 4: had a meeting at her house. And you know, when
Speaker 4: you're in someone's house, you know, you feel welcome, but
Speaker 4: then sometimes when you're in other people's houses, you think,
Speaker 4: I feel like this person like I'm a bother, like
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be here. And I remember we were all eating.
Speaker 4: She'd of course made a meal for all of us
Speaker 4: that I had asked the recip before. Right, it was
Speaker 4: so good, And I remember saying when he walked in,
Speaker 4: I really want to thank you for you know, having
Speaker 4: us all in your home. I'm sure it's you know,
Speaker 4: can being inconvenience. And I don't know why I thought
Speaker 4: I should do that, but that was just my first
Speaker 4: reaction is we're we're not welcome here.
Speaker 3: That's interesting because you get that feeling, right, you get
Speaker 3: that intuitive knowing, you know that we all have that
Speaker 3: something is just not right, absolutely, you know. And Russia
Speaker 3: and I were doing the story on Tiffany, there was
Speaker 3: something that really stood out, and it was that instant
Speaker 3: when the community came together and they made, you know,
Speaker 3: a human shield protecting her from her husband.
Speaker 2: A strange husband. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Were you there when he was?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I was?
Speaker 3: And what was that like?
Speaker 4: We walked out of a restaurant and I glanced to
Speaker 4: my left and my instant was is that Keeland? And
Speaker 4: then I thought, no, that's silly, he wouldn't be here.
Speaker 4: And then I looked again and he kind of smiled
Speaker 4: at me, and then I heard her say, oh my god,
Speaker 4: and I knew instantly it was him. So she ran
Speaker 4: to the van with the kids, and the other four
Speaker 4: of us just stood all in a line, and I
Speaker 4: just kept saying, he's not supposed to be here, he
Speaker 4: can't be here. And then one of the other members,
Speaker 4: who actually worked for the Clark County Sheriff's Department, immediately
Speaker 4: called nine one one. She had seen him when she
Speaker 4: got in her car. So it You know, we were
Speaker 4: pretty fast acting, but it takes you by surprises.
Speaker 2: There's only so much you can do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not what you're expecting for sure.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I you know, remember you telling me that story?
Speaker 2: If you could read, I know that we we just
Speaker 2: passed the anniversary of Tiffany's murder. It was November twenty
Speaker 2: sixth of twenty nineteen, which I'm sure for you feels
Speaker 2: like it was five minutes ago and five years ago
Speaker 2: at the same time.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But we would.
Speaker 2: Like to know from your point of view, what was
Speaker 2: November twenty six, twenty nineteen, What was that day like
Speaker 2: leading up to the murder from your point of view,
Speaker 2: Like what I would like to know what you went
Speaker 2: through and what you were feeling that day.
Speaker 4: It was it was almost it wasn't real. Unfortunately, I
Speaker 4: had the flu and Karina had called me and said,
Speaker 4: there's a shooting at the school. Have you heard from Tiffany?
Speaker 4: And I said no, And she said I can't get
Speaker 4: her on her phone. And I said, let me, you know,
Speaker 4: let me find out. And I literally threw the phone
Speaker 4: down on my bed and I looked at my wife
Speaker 4: and I said, it's her. She's gone. I already know
Speaker 4: she's gone, Like without even knowing. I just knew because
Speaker 4: she'd said. I can't tell you how many times she
Speaker 4: had said, he's going to kill me, right, I can't.
Speaker 4: I will never escape him. He will find me and
Speaker 4: he will kill me.
Speaker 3: I know this is a this is a question, a
Speaker 3: tough question. But do you do you believe in your
Speaker 3: heart that this could have been avoided? I mean, if
Speaker 3: you know the police could have done more, I mean,
Speaker 3: what is your take on that.
Speaker 4: I think that the judicial system is where all of
Speaker 4: the blame lies. For me, The Clark County Sheriff and
Speaker 4: the Vancouver Police Department really honestly went above and beyond
Speaker 4: to help her and to try to protect her. They
Speaker 4: did absolutely everything they were supposed to do. She got
Speaker 4: a threat assessment done. When she went to interview, she
Speaker 4: had again showed them all of the messages that he
Speaker 4: was continuing to send her on a daily basis, which
Speaker 4: means he was breaking the no contact. So when he
Speaker 4: was still in jail waiting for his court date, thankfully
Speaker 4: the day he was we thought he was going to
Speaker 4: get out, I had put her and the kids in
Speaker 4: a hotel. I had paid for a hotel for them,
Speaker 4: so he would not know where they were at all.
Speaker 4: And the prosecuting attorney had taken all of those no
Speaker 4: contacts and added them in at his bail hearings. So
Speaker 4: he ended up in jail for another week or so.
Speaker 4: Oh So, they did everything they possibly could.
Speaker 3: Do to keep him away, and they.
Speaker 4: Asked for no bail. They asked for a million dollars
Speaker 4: worth of bail, and apparently, it's my understanding in the
Speaker 4: state of Washington, the only way to get no bail
Speaker 4: is if you murder someone first. Yeah, you have to
Speaker 4: commit a capital offense first. So when they asked for
Speaker 4: a million, the judge said, now two hundred and fifty thousand,
Speaker 4: which twenty five thousand is a lot of money to
Speaker 4: a lot of us. But he had at least fifteen
Speaker 4: in the bank account and access to a four oh
Speaker 4: one k so for him, making bail was not a problem.
Speaker 4: It's my understanding, and I did not see it. I
Speaker 4: was only told by Karina that his coworkers, someone at
Speaker 4: his work, started to gofund me.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding no?
Speaker 4: Because he had gaslighted them. Right, He's an amazing guy.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't do this, and so GoFundMe was started for him.
Speaker 3: Wow, I had no idea.
Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, that's so awful to hear. But despite all
Speaker 2: of the darkness that is in this story, what I
Speaker 2: love about Tiffany's case and about her story is the light, right,
Speaker 2: and I think part of that light is how you
Speaker 2: and your friends and Senator Linda Wilson banded together to
Speaker 2: change the narrative. Can you tell us the story of
Speaker 2: what you did and what changes you made.
Speaker 4: Right after Tiffany had passed, Karina had contacted me and said,
Speaker 4: I gave your phone number to a senator. She's trying
Speaker 4: to pass a bill on domestic violence. And so then
Speaker 4: we had gotten a hold of Senator Wilson, who is amazing.
Speaker 4: She worked so hard on this bill for so many
Speaker 4: years and just couldn't get it passed. And she had
Speaker 4: asked us to come in and testify in front of
Speaker 4: the different committees to pass this bill through each committee.
Speaker 4: I think she finally had got it dialed in. You know,
Speaker 4: you see bills come to legislature that you think, oh,
Speaker 4: I can't believe this isn't passing. But there's always little
Speaker 4: pieces that have to be fine tuned. And part of
Speaker 4: that is the cost. Who's going to cover the cost
Speaker 4: of this ankle monitor that she wanted to place on perpetrators.
Speaker 4: So Senator Wilson had contacted us. There was five of
Speaker 4: us that said, yep, absolutely, we'll testify. We'll tell her story.
Speaker 4: We tried to tell it through different eyes. So Krita's husband, Isaiah,
Speaker 4: through his eyes of having to be friends with Keeland,
Speaker 4: realizing once you know, everything was out, now he has
Speaker 4: to keep that secret. He can't tell anyone what Kielan
Speaker 4: is telling him. He can't tell Keilan he knows because
Speaker 4: then Tiffany gets abused for that. So it's from his
Speaker 4: point of view. And then Melissa Nelson was actually her
Speaker 4: middle child's teacher. So that was from her point of
Speaker 4: view from a teacher at the school. And then we'd
Speaker 4: used my point of view with everything that I went
Speaker 4: through trying to hide her and my wife and I
Speaker 4: had gone to her house and changed locks. Isaiah and
Speaker 4: Krena put up security cameras so that she would feel
Speaker 4: more comfortable. Little did we know that that actually made
Speaker 4: it worse. She was not sleepy because she was watching
Speaker 4: the camera all the time.
Speaker 3: Serene, can you tell us exactly the Tiffany Hill? You know, Bill?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 4: It is a act that Senator Wilson had passed through
Speaker 4: the Washington State legislature that if a domestic abusers come
Speaker 4: to court, the judge can decide I'm sure, based on
Speaker 4: certain acts or you know, in Tiffany's case, it would
Speaker 4: have been her lethality report that sadly decides how high
Speaker 4: the lethal chance is for you. She was a thirty
Speaker 4: one out of forty.
Speaker 3: Which is quite high.
Speaker 4: Dream extreme danger, not just danger, but extreme danger. It
Speaker 4: allows the judge to put an ankle monitor on the abuser.
Speaker 4: Then the survivor downloads an app on their phone and
Speaker 4: they are notified if the abuser comes within a certain
Speaker 4: range of them. So it would send them a live
Speaker 4: text message. So it's not based in one area. Say
Speaker 4: you lived three blocks from the school, It's not just
Speaker 4: based in that three block radius. It's based on wherever
Speaker 4: you are traveling. You would get notification that your abuser
Speaker 4: was near Beautiful, allowing you to contact the police if
Speaker 4: there was no contact order. I know that it was.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I recall it being used in I
Speaker 4: believe it was Chicago, and then possibly in Australia. So
Speaker 4: I don't know that there were statistics of in certain
Speaker 4: amount of cases where someone's wearing the ankle monitor, were
Speaker 4: there any deaths or how quickly were they then put
Speaker 4: back into the system. Because it also sends a notification
Speaker 4: to the sheriff or the city police department, I'm not
Speaker 4: sure which one, letting them know that it not only
Speaker 4: will it tell the survivor, it will ping them. It
Speaker 4: actually pings that you were near the survivor.
Speaker 2: Do you think, though, that since the Tiffany Hill Act
Speaker 2: was passed, do you think that's helped more people?
Speaker 4: I hope so. I had recently read an article that
Speaker 4: the monitor actually wasn't being used as much as it
Speaker 4: could be, So I feel like perhaps it's not as
Speaker 4: known as it could be in the state of Washington.
Speaker 4: I understand King County is using it.
Speaker 2: Oh in Seattle, Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know that a lot of the
Speaker 4: other counties are outside of Clark or King just because
Speaker 4: maybe they don't know as much about it or who
Speaker 4: might pay for it.
Speaker 2: Like how is this not a nationwide That's what I
Speaker 2: don't understand.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: I agree, Like who do we need to talk to?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? And I've actually had emailed last year Senator Wilson,
Speaker 4: you know, do you have any senators state senators you
Speaker 4: know in Oregon that we could start working with to
Speaker 4: get this past an organ and then move down to
Speaker 4: California and start moving state by state until we can
Speaker 4: get a big enough voice to where it can get
Speaker 4: all the way to DC and it just becomes federal.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, let's do it. Yeah, I will start here
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. Yes, yeah, you know. It's like we
Speaker 3: have to do it because there's too many. There's too many.
Speaker 3: The percentage is too high.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I remember hearing Senator Linda Wilson speak, I believe in
Speaker 2: that TV show that you were all on together meet
Speaker 2: Mary Murder, And I remember her saying that it you know,
Speaker 2: if Tiffany had just been alerted maybe a few minutes
Speaker 2: by that ping to her cell phone from that ankle
Speaker 2: bracelet that he should have been wearing if this act
Speaker 2: had been in enacted when she was alive, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: she'd still be here today, right And and not just her,
Speaker 2: but you know, like when you go to pick up
Speaker 2: your child, if someone else comes to pick up your child,
Speaker 2: they have to be on the list. So like if
Speaker 2: you were, you know, on the list, you know for
Speaker 2: that you know, vibration monitor or you know the other
Speaker 2: friends like to alert you know, the community, Like you
Speaker 2: guys would have been there in a heartbeat.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I would love everyone to know who's going through
Speaker 4: this in their life. Keep telling someone, someone will listen.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you there will be someone in your life
Speaker 4: who you connect with that will move the sun and
Speaker 4: earth to help you and to get you out of
Speaker 4: the situation you're in. Just keep believing and just keep
Speaker 4: believing in yourself because you are a survivor. What you're
Speaker 4: going through is well. But you've survived every day, every hour,
Speaker 4: every minute, every second, and you truly don't realize how
Speaker 4: strong you are. But the rest of us do so.
Speaker 4: Just keep believing in yourself, because eventually we all will.
Speaker 2: I am honored to know you and to love you,
Speaker 2: and I am so thankful that you're in this world
Speaker 2: for the Tiffanys of the world and for all of us.
Speaker 4: Thank you very much to both of you.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ring.
Speaker 4: I mean this opportunity to be to continue to be
Speaker 4: Tiffany's voice. I just my heart is so big.
Speaker 3: We see that, We see that, and our listeners will
Speaker 3: hear that. We are so honored to have you on
Speaker 3: facing evil.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 3: In this week's Message of Hope and Healing, we want
Speaker 3: to honor the parents at Sarah J. Anderson Elementary School
Speaker 3: who became Tiffany's friends, and then after her death, they
Speaker 3: tirelessly advocated for the passage of the Senate bill five
Speaker 3: to one four nine.
Speaker 2: This, of course, was a situation that none of them
Speaker 2: ever imagined themselves being in, but when their friend lost
Speaker 2: her life, they stepped up and they fought in her
Speaker 2: memory and her honor until the bill passed.
Speaker 3: That's right, and it was an exhausting fight. But Tiffany's
Speaker 3: friends were motivated to prevent this from ever happening again,
Speaker 3: and they demonstrated what we can do when we come
Speaker 3: together to make a difference.
Speaker 2: To the parents of Anderson Elementary Onward and upward.
Speaker 3: Emua emua. Well, that's our show for today.
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