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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lalli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and it is a Friday. It's championship weekend Friday.

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 1: So a lot of what we talk about today will

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Speaker 1: deal with the championships, wouldn't it. But we do have

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Speaker 1: some Steeler stuff that we want to get to and

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Speaker 1: talk about here. Steelers reportedly interviewing Jared Gerrod Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's the Houston Texans quarterback coach this year. It's another

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Speaker 1: name that I brought up to you before first started

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Speaker 1: on to I like it. So, you know, we got

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Speaker 1: a few candidates here. I don't know that they're necessarily

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Speaker 1: their number one candidates has emerged just yet.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's four teams obviously floating around out there.

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Speaker 1: That you still interview those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Fine, which is a weird

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Speaker 2: dynamic in itself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, I like the Johnson idea. I like dipping into

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Speaker 2: that those waters at least. I mean, he's been getting

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Speaker 2: a couple interviews from what I understand, and hot young name,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean typical quarterback co quarterback in his background,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, that would make some sense.

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Speaker 1: There's some ties here. I mean he was in camp

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Speaker 1: under Mike Tomlin back in I think twenty twelve as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. He was the number four, So there's there's

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Speaker 1: some familiarity there, and.

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Speaker 2: So, like the directions they've been poking at least. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the name has arised yet or

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Speaker 2: who knows, but yeah, So I.

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Speaker 1: Was looking at this, Matt, and one of the things

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Speaker 1: that you know, you have to take into consideration when

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Speaker 1: you start talking about free agency is potential cap casualties.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot coming.

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Speaker 1: And the spot track has an interesting that twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four top one hundred possible cut candidates. Now there are

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Speaker 1: five Steelers on here. I can tell you that three

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Speaker 1: of them I don't believe are going in. I have

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Speaker 1: to think of the names already. Yeah, I know there

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Speaker 1: are at least three I believe on this list that are

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Speaker 1: that aren't the Steelers aren't interested in cutting really Okay, anyway,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, he got Andy Dalton. I think they're in

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Speaker 1: kind of descending order.

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Speaker 2: I think I remember looking at this a while back.

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Speaker 2: I think at some sort of order of what they

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Speaker 2: made last year or something like that, or their cap.

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Speaker 1: Well, the twenty twenty four cash do based and and

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Speaker 1: and where they're at in terms of the overall team

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Speaker 1: need I guess gotcha? So Andy Dalton, Well, they could

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Speaker 1: you get quarterbacks listed here? For three quarterbacks first, Jared Stidham,

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Speaker 2: I'd be shocked on Stidham. I mean, like they just

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Speaker 2: moved on from Wilson. I know they need to make

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Speaker 2: more money, but somebody's got play quarterback for him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean he's not necessarily super cheap though.

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Speaker 2: I know they I mean they paid, they did.

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Speaker 1: He should be making like three million dollars and instead

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Speaker 1: he's making six.

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Speaker 2: That was at I mean, because I know when they

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Speaker 2: signed him, it was like the day free agency open,

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Speaker 2: like they went out of their way. One of Peyton's

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Speaker 2: first moves as head coach was to go get Stidham,

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Speaker 2: which I thought was a little odd. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: love this guy that much. I don't think they look

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Speaker 2: at him as a long term answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Tyas Bowser's on here, Matthew Judon, Anthony Nelson with

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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, Emmanuel Ogba.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of edge. Yeah, it's older d n types.

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Speaker 1: Tim Patrick. Tim Patrick's now thirty one.

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Speaker 2: He's had a lot of injuries lately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't. He can't carry that. He's agoing nine

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Speaker 1: point nine million right now.

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Speaker 2: I kind of feel bad for him cause signed a

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Speaker 2: big deal and then got hurt, got.

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Speaker 1: Hurt, got hurt, and got hurt and got hurt again.

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Speaker 1: Russell Gage kind of the same thing. He's making ten million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Those are the type of guys that might not

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Speaker 1: Deontay Hardy with the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Just a return guy basically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Joey Bosa, it's twenty nine years old. Possibility, he's

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Speaker 2: I guess he came in the Zeke Elliott draft. I

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Speaker 2: mean that's been a while and he hasn't been productive lately. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he's expensive.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven million. Yeah. Hunter Renfro interesting.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you would actually be out on the open market,

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Speaker 2: They signed him too big a.

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Speaker 1: Deal and then didn't use him. That's not his fault.

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Speaker 1: Mike Williams, Charles Amenihu, Okay, Jay Jones, Yeah, Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 2: That's so unfortunate because they don't want to do it,

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Speaker 1: It's twelve point two million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Right now because of the injury. I mean, the poor

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Speaker 1: Name hinz Uh.

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Speaker 2: Diet is another one that's injured.

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Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise, Marquez, Valdez, Scantling, Real, Brian Monet.

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Speaker 2: There's not many names here that interests me to hit it. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm marked like they're pretty easy cut. Yeah, Dean Lowry,

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Speaker 2: these guys have been around a wow injuries, a little

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Speaker 2: over priced, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Alan Robinson, he's gonna he's gonna get cut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh c j Uzoma, Yeah, it's he done lately.

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Speaker 2: Robert Woods, but maybe he hooks on somewhere. But you know,

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Speaker 2: no Brown one past him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's I mean six point five million.

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Speaker 2: I assume they'll let him go.

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Speaker 2: I think all these guys been easy cut so far.

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Speaker 1: For Alonso Fatoucssim okay, Aaron Jones, I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna cut Aaron Jones. He's two million dollars, but.

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Speaker 2: He's playing really well. Or maybe you get this restructure

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Speaker 2: or something like that. I mean AJ Dillon might get

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Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers thirteen point nine million for John Franklin Myers.

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Speaker 1: He's okay, Okay, Yeah, he's okay. Shaq Thompson with the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: That to be an interesting one. You know how clean

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Speaker 2: he's his bill of health is. But he moves around well,

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Speaker 2: you know he could be the better version of Kwan

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Speaker 2: Alexander for you man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's thirty now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say these guys are old. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Avonte Maddox pit ties, he's had some successful he's twenty eight. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard, he's super expensive. I signed him with he's

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Speaker 1: making eight point one five No.

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Speaker 2: What shocked me? I mean they drafted at the end

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Speaker 1: Devon Godshaw, no sackle type. Jimmy Ward, he's like this

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Speaker 1: thirteenth season. He's thirty three.

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Speaker 1: Tracy Walker safety with the Lions.

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Speaker 2: These are old dudes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's twenty nine. Kristin Kirk sixteen point five minut

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Speaker 1: Remember when he signed that deal? Owner, But say that's

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Speaker 1: too much money for Christian Kirk. As it turns out,

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Speaker 1: it probably wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't as bad deal as

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Speaker 1: you thought, but sixteen point five million.

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Speaker 2: So Ingram took a huge step up in terms of production.

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Speaker 2: Ridley is a free agent. Jay Jones has already been

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Speaker 2: on that list, So they somebody's gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to have no receivers next year?

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Speaker 2: At least one of them is going to go. If

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Speaker 2: Kirk were on their open market, I'd have some interest.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson, what he has left anymore?

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Speaker 2: Good a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen point one million. He's making big money. Here's one

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Speaker 1: that this is not going to happen. Steeler fans as

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Speaker 1: much as some people around town pound the drum for

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Speaker 1: Cam Heyward is not being released. Yeah, that's not getting

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if anything happens, maybe they had a year

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he will retire. He will retire as a Steeler.

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Speaker 1: Moiley Cox.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't interest me much. DJ Jones Okay, how old is he?

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Speaker 1: He is? Twenty nine? Made ten million dollars this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if he's out there late in the process,

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Speaker 2: maybe young oh coup wow, I know he's.

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Speaker 1: The second most accurate kicker of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's expensive.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he's four million dollars.

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Speaker 2: I bet he's back. Yeah the going rate for good

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Speaker 2: have a wonderful year.

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Speaker 1: But so what that's the going rate for a good kicker.

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Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson's on this list. Deontay Johnson's not getting cut out.

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Speaker 2: He's not getting cut Yeah, zero percent chance.

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Speaker 1: His salary is ten million dollars this year. He's actually

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Speaker 1: a bargain when you look at some of these other guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for what he does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Carlton Davis, hmmm, if he were on the how

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Speaker 1: old twenty Carlton Davis is twenty eight, made fourteen point

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Speaker 1: due to make fourteen point five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they've invested a lot in that secondary. I wonder

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Speaker 2: it'd be kind of interesting.

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Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, Oh yeah, they paid him a lot.

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Speaker 2: He's thirty four, he game the league old and they

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Speaker 2: paid him a lot.

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Speaker 1: Ten million dollars. Tradavious White is twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they can bring him back.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they can either. Would you would you

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Speaker 2: I mean, he that's of interest. I mean, you'd have

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Speaker 2: to study his recent tape. Your doctors would have to

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Speaker 2: be really to sign on it's right, And I bet

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Speaker 2: he signs a one year proven deal, whether it's here

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Speaker 1: But it's been a while since he's been a good player.

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Speaker 2: I know, but he was a real good player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know Buddha Baker. I don't think Budda Baker's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just signed him a year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just reupped him. Brian Allen the center for

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Speaker 2: Interesting, he's twenty one of those level centers out there.

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Speaker 1: Seven million dollars. Marcus May with the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Maybe. I don't know what kind of year he had,

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Speaker 2: but he kind of always seems like a third safety,

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Speaker 2: which you know isn't frowned upon around here.

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Speaker 1: He's thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Will Disley all right, not really in the tight end mark.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Shack Barrett. Seventeen million dollars he's making. He's thirty

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Speaker 1: two years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I missed some time too. They don't need an edge,

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Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell Mmm, he's had some good, good tents. He's

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Speaker 1: thirty one now real he was a real good.

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Speaker 2: Year two years, two years, real good length. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: mean in the Kawan Alexander kind of signing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, John Kaminski with the Lions. He's an interior

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Speaker 2: Guy. People love him.

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Speaker 2: How old he now? Thirty one? Twenty seven, twenty seven? Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's the Red brothers with two brothers.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to make a lot of moves. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Al I think one of the Reeds got in trouble

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara.

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Speaker 2: I think he's getting cut eleven.

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Speaker 1: Point eight million. He's twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 2: He caught a bunch of passes when he came off suspension,

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Speaker 1: This one would be interesting. Julian Love.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty six. Make if they just signed him five

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Speaker 1: point six eight million? Maybe he doesn't. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: they've got twenty six They've got two high price safeties already.

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Speaker 2: Not see what other options are out there? Yeah, if

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Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, where'd I go here? Let's see Byron Murphy

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Speaker 1: he's a Viking though. Viking. Yeah, twenty six eight point

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Speaker 1: eight five million, which is too much for Byron Murphy.

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Speaker 2: It is. He's a heavy zone guy though. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if he fits Kaiser White. I liked him

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Speaker 1: I'm still twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not awful.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Smith, Well, he's not for me, but I think

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are not. They're not gonna come Andrew. He's

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Speaker 2: I say he's not as old as young as you think.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure he's expensive, but that's just because likely

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Speaker 2: he's good.

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Speaker 1: But they're eleven million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna pay him.

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Speaker 1: Dante Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine, doesn't have never known as much of a tackler,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Logan Thomas Marcus Lawrence is thirty.

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Speaker 2: Two Marcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good players still.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones with the Patriots nine million dollars, thirty one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there's a Jonathan Jones's tackle. Is he the

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Speaker 1: They had some issues with him. Yeah, Brandon Cooks it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's not terrible if he could. What's

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Speaker 2: If you want to take four on a one year

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Speaker 1: Here's one that Patrick Ricard. Can they afford to keep

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Speaker 1: Patrick Riccard another year after this one.

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Speaker 2: They play him a lot though still I thought this new.

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Speaker 1: I think he can't do it just because they couldn't

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Speaker 2: But they kind of line him up at tight end

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Speaker 2: and just mash people. I mean, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: he's making. He made a big deal.

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Speaker 1: It's four million dollars next year for a fullback.

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Speaker 2: Basic because he doesn't he's not a big special.

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Speaker 1: I mean either, you know, are you gonna keep on

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Speaker 2: That's the problem, right, They got some big names coming

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Speaker 2: up that they need to deal with.

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Speaker 1: David Andrews.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's thirty two. Yeah, Yeah, there's other centers in

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Speaker 2: free agents i'd prefer, but he's okay.

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Speaker 1: Justin Simmons, he's now thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean he was once great. Yeah, he signed

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Speaker 1: Tyler Conklin with the Jets and Austin Corbett played with

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Speaker 1: the Panthers last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he has any center, it'd be

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Speaker 2: more of a swing guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he was a center at one point.

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Speaker 2: I think he did some. I think he's more of

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Speaker 2: a I think her big feels that need though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they have Nate Herbig is the next name

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Speaker 1: on here. He's not getting.

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Speaker 2: I can't see that.

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Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. Why would he go sign on these guys

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Speaker 1: for depth and then what's he I mean, what's the

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Speaker 1: four million?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's going right on him. He's been fine.

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Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton. Courtland Sutton's twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 2: I know, And I think he's got a chance to

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Speaker 2: get cut. I mean, I think Judy could get traded

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Speaker 2: or cut. Patrick we already talked about. Maybe they just

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Speaker 2: restructure him or something. He had a pretty decent year.

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Speaker 1: Mark Lewinsky at the Giants left. Yeah, there's not much there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jerome Baker making a big buck with him. I said,

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Speaker 1: remember when they signed him to that deal, was like,

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Speaker 1: that's too much for too.

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Speaker 2: Much money, right, If he wants to come to be

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Speaker 2: a part time player, i'd listen.

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Speaker 1: Ted Carris with the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: I think he's more of a backup too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Marcus Epps with the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: I don't know a ton about what his twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Year old's, you know, kind of a third safety. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: James Connor, they're not.

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Speaker 2: Going to cut down. They have a lot of caps face.

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Speaker 1: Eric Armstead eighteen point two six months big, that's a

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Speaker 2: It is, and they got some people they need to pay.

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Speaker 2: But I think he's back, or maybe he's a restructor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why Julian Law was on this list

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Speaker 1: because quandary Diggs is eleven million dollars next year and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting quandary there. It was actually an

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Speaker 2: accident probably in the back of my difference somewhere right,

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Speaker 2: Diggs is the best player of the group. Yeah, could

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Speaker 2: you do like an Alan Robinson trade and say we'll

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Speaker 2: take the contract off you and give you a seventh.

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Speaker 1: But they'd probably want to do it with They probably

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Speaker 1: want you to take Adams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who stinks, right, But their safeties are usual when

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Speaker 2: someone's going to hit do Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean their two best safeties were digs in love.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, without question. I mean they're just stuck with this,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's a lot you traded two first round

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Speaker 1: draft picks for him. The thing now is that Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll's gone.

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Speaker 2: Right, and who knows what kind of defense are now you.

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Speaker 1: Can bring the new coach has no, I didn't trade

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Speaker 2: Oh right, right, I just don't know what it does

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Speaker 2: to your cap. Yeah, Like is there a lot of

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Speaker 2: dead money with him or you know, Josh Sweat hmm.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think the Steelers will after it.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen million dollars, but it's good. Mitch Morse.

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Speaker 2: Mitch Morse can still play thirty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, eight point five this.

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Speaker 2: Year, he's starting center.

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Speaker 1: They got some cap issues, Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 2: That's not bad. Maybe a two year deal.

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Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips with the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: He still stops the run and is a force in

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Kevin byered fourteen kind of a disaster. Fourteen point one million,

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Speaker 1: he's thirty one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if he wants to sign for three million

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Speaker 2: for one.

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Speaker 1: Year, that whole defense I'm not putting. I'm not blaming

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Speaker 1: it on him because they they were all awful down the.

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Speaker 2: Stretch and coincidentally is like basically after the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: But it's not like because he got there and screwed

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Speaker 1: Everything that I've read about that situation is bad. It

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Speaker 1: said like when they made the coordinator switch, Bozo, the

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Speaker 1: coordinator came Patricia came in and decided to change the

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Speaker 1: verbiage too.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because I'm so smart, right yeah? Yeah, and nobody, nobody,

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Speaker 2: I could do anything. I mean, the communication was terrible,

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Speaker 2: tackling was terrible. They didn't know where to be.

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Speaker 1: Rayshawn Jenkins with the Jaguars more of a strong Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's thirty.

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon, he's twenty eight, he's gonna get cut. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Xavier Woods with the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it doesn't do a lot fore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jordan Poyer, he's thirty three, that doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. One of my worries this offseason for Steeler d

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Speaker 2: is getting older.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean one year deals don't hurt that equation, but

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Speaker 2: as long as you're still drafting, but yeah, you don't

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Speaker 1: David Boctiari, I don't even know if he plays football.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one point five million. Yeah, they have to move

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Speaker 1: on from I could. I could see him them releasing

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Speaker 1: him in the Jets signing him so Aaron Aaron has

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Speaker 1: his buddy. Yeah, Drake Greenlaw.

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Speaker 2: Huh what's he say? Uh?

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Speaker 1: He makes eight point seven.

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Speaker 2: He might be worth it for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I can't see them releasing.

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Speaker 2: If they'll release them, maybe it's a restructure. If you're

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Speaker 2: mean he's a good player.

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Speaker 1: David Long also also same thing. He's only four point five.

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Speaker 1: Cody white Hair with the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Okay, center guard. Never really found a home at either,

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Speaker 2: but they do both pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Thirty two. Now you got Eric Kendricks, he's also thirty two.

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Speaker 1: He's making it. He won't be a charger.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard with the Eagles fourteen point twenty five million.

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Speaker 2: I would just say there's a way they move on

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Speaker 2: from Goddard. But that's a big that's a big buck,

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Speaker 2: that's a big It sounds like a restructure.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is fourteen million, new coaching staff coming in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're all about making the Levis's life easier,

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Speaker 2: but that's a lot of money for DeAndre Howkins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, David and Joku is fourteen point five minutes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I doubt they cut him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably try to extend him, right, but they

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Speaker 1: can't lower that number by too much.

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Speaker 2: If you do, that's more cap issues. And even thought

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett is seventeen million.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to have him on the open market. I

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Speaker 2: mean he can still play now. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: they're gonna move on.

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey thirty five, he's thirteen million dollars.

447
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Speaker 2: He's not getting cut. Yeah, Mayward conversation, BJ Hill maybe

448
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Speaker 2: seven and a half million dollars. Jaron Reid similar, Yeah,

449
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Speaker 2: kind of a nose, but not a big thick guy.

450
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Speaker 1: You know Lake and Tomlinson. He's now thirty two. Wow,

451
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Speaker 1: as is Keenan Allen, who's on this list twenty three

452
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Speaker 1: point one million. He's thirty two years old.

453
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Speaker 2: Now, we've talked a lot of chargers, but they're gonna

454
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Speaker 2: move handful of those expenses. I think some of these.

455
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Speaker 1: Guys are not going to be Chargers next year because

456
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Speaker 1: they can't afford them.

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Speaker 2: This can't afford Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, six Seahawks on that list.

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Speaker 2: Is there? Yeah, with a new coach, there's not gonna

460
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Speaker 2: be much of loyalty there either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You wouldn't think they get the little thing here

462
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Speaker 1: at the chart with the effective cap space for everybody. Okay,

463
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Speaker 1: and really did the Steelers come in at They're kind.

464
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Speaker 2: Of middle of the road road. Yeah, I know that

465
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Speaker 2: the ability to open up a lot more.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah that you look at this and and the Chargers

467
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Speaker 1: are all the way over here. They had no effective caps.

468
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The Saints are in a really bad spot.

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Speaker 1: Too, absolutely, and the Dolphins and Bills aren't too far off.

470
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Speaker 2: No, Dolphins are in real trouble. Yeah, their windows might

471
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Speaker 2: be closing quick on those teams, at least the Bills

472
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Speaker 2: of Allen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Saints are there as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, we're going to get to a break. He is

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Speaker 1: the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, and take a break.

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Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson and I am Dale Lollie, you're listening

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Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio, and folks,

487
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Speaker 1: I promise you the entire second hour will be dedicated

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Speaker 1: to the conference championship games. Yeah, but right now we're

489
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Speaker 1: talking some some more Steeler centric stuff here. And I'm

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Speaker 1: looking here in an article on Pro Football Focus by

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Speaker 1: Brad Spielberger about bradg Yeah, one free agent each team

492
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Speaker 1: can't afford to lose this year.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Interesting, it's a pretty interesting free agent class. And

494
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Speaker 2: we just went over some guys that could be added

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Speaker 2: to it as well. And some of these guys will

496
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Speaker 2: also get franchise and extended between now and then. But okay,

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Speaker 2: let's dig in, man.

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Speaker 1: So for the Steelers, we'll jump right to them. It is, uh,

499
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Speaker 1: they don't have any starters. Yeah, they don't have any

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Speaker 1: guys who are like starter starters, course, starters that aren't

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Speaker 1: live without.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh So their guy that that they can't that they

504
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Speaker 1: need to re sign, according to Brad Spielberger, is our

505
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Speaker 1: mom Watts.

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Speaker 2: Interesting because I didn't see this article yet, but there

507
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Speaker 2: is a Pro Football Focus article today most improved player

508
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Speaker 2: on every team, and Wats was the guy, although he

509
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Speaker 2: wasn't Steeler last year, but just from twenty twenty two

510
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Speaker 2: to twenty twenty three, by their grades, he went up

511
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Speaker 2: like thirty points or whatever. But I thought he's been

512
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Speaker 2: a very successful signing good versa run kind of the

513
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Speaker 2: wormly role, you know, you know, it can do a

514
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Speaker 2: lot for you, but isn't going to be a full

515
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Speaker 2: time starter, but can do more than just get you

516
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Speaker 2: out of a game. I'd like to see him back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people wonder, you know why Loudermilk and de Marvin Leel.

518
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Speaker 2: Yeah couldn't.

519
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they couldn't, you know, be active at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Largely it was because our mom watched.

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Speaker 2: They're not sitting him down, no, no, no, And it's.

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Speaker 1: Not like he was garb. I mean, he's been a

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Speaker 1: starter in the league, you know. So this is a

524
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Speaker 1: guy who's played a lot of a lot of NFL

525
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Speaker 1: snaps and he's just ahead of the curve from where

526
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Speaker 1: they're at.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point, he seems to be getting better,

528
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Speaker 2: and he exceeded our expectations. I think once they signed him,

529
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Speaker 2: think he I don't think it's rank he was.

530
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Speaker 1: Just like twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: I think so too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's twenty seven and a half, right, now. So, Yeah,

533
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Speaker 1: I mean he's a little more developed than those guys

534
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Speaker 1: are in terms of where he's at in his career.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's been around the block and he's been quite successful.

536
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Speaker 2: I think he's a valuable piece of that D line

537
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Speaker 2: and I'd love to see him bring him back. Yeah,

538
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Speaker 2: maybe give him a little bit of a raise.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So looking here at some of the other teams for

541
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, they have Marquise Brown on here. I'm

542
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Speaker 1: interested in keeping Marquise Brown. Yeah.

543
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Speaker 2: I mean, Wilson was successful as a rookie and they're

544
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Speaker 2: probably going to draft a receiver, probably Harrison. I don't

545
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Speaker 2: think Brown's gonna be as expensive as people think. I mean,

546
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Speaker 2: I think he's probably a twelve thirteen million dollars a

547
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Speaker 2: year type of guys.

548
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Speaker 1: I've never never been a fan. He's more of a

549
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Speaker 1: specialty type player.

550
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think he brings more to the

551
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Speaker 2: table than like the Teddy Ginns of the world and

552
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Speaker 2: just run fast. But I don't think he's close to

553
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Speaker 2: a one.

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Speaker 1: No, He's not that, and that's you know, largely what

555
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Speaker 1: they were trying to use him as in both Baltimore and.

556
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Speaker 2: Arizona and were in the ball so much. He was

557
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Speaker 2: no help as a blocker, right, which he's not for everybody.

558
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Speaker 2: But I mean if he hits the open market and

559
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Speaker 2: the Panther signed him, I would understand.

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Speaker 1: You know, for the Falcons, it's Kalais Campbell. I mean really,

561
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Speaker 1: it's Kalais Campbell gonna play. This is that, This is

562
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Speaker 1: the argument with Cam Hayward. Klais Campbell's thirty eight years old.

563
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Klais Campbell played in the two thousand and eight Super

565
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Speaker 1: Bowl against the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yea for the car of the Cardinals.

567
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and he wasn't a rookie either.

568
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Speaker 2: But I don't know what the who their other candidates are,

569
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Speaker 2: but I think they could probably survive without Khalais Campbell.

570
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Speaker 1: But I get it. But this is why when people

571
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Speaker 1: talk about cutting Cam Hayward, I'm like, it's not gonna happen.

572
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Speaker 2: No, it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: He could play with that old me they have. They

574
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Speaker 1: both had the old man game. Yeah yeah, yeah, they're not.

575
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Speaker 1: Their game was never built on speed. It's always been

576
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Speaker 1: about power.

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Speaker 2: Now that they will fade away slow, yeah, I mean

578
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Speaker 2: Campbell didn't have a bad year, No, right.

579
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for Baltimore, it's just a meta bouquet. And while

580
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Speaker 1: I agree with that, no doubt, I don't know how

581
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Speaker 1: they're going to be able to afford him. No, with

582
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Speaker 1: considering he's going to get twenty five plus million, he's.

583
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Speaker 2: Gonna be one of the hottest guys on the market

584
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Speaker 2: period and regardless of position. Yeah, I think that's gonna

585
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Speaker 2: be challenging, and maybe they can structure things that they

586
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Speaker 2: can put the franchise tag on them. I just don't

587
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Speaker 2: know their situation well enough.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the franchise tag would cost it

589
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Speaker 1: that I don't I think it would be pretty expensive.

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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be definitely spens. Yeah, Yeah, for them,

591
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Speaker 2: it would be a massive loss. Yeah.

592
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Speaker 1: They don't have anybody no waiting that's like him.

593
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Speaker 2: That's like him. I mean they'll line him up on

594
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Speaker 2: the edge sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For the Bills at Staikwan Jones.

597
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Speaker 2: He's he's a little older than I thought too when

598
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Speaker 2: I was doing free agency stuff, but he's a quality

599
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Speaker 2: interior plugger. I remember when we previewed that game. They

600
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Speaker 2: have a lot invested in their D line, but there

601
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Speaker 2: are a lot of first round picks athletes where he's

602
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Speaker 2: more of the beef. You know, he's a lot different

603
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Speaker 2: than Oliver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For Caroline's Brian Burns, that's sure. If they could have

606
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Speaker 1: traded him before, they didn't do it. Now you can't

607
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Speaker 1: let him go.

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Speaker 2: I assume he gets franch Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For the Bears, it's Jalen Johnson mm hmm.

610
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Speaker 2: I know pff adorism that he had an awesome grade,

611
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Speaker 2: really turned on heavy in the second half of the season.

612
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Speaker 2: Man coverage, guy long arms. He's gonna make a lot

613
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Speaker 2: of money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. For the Bengals, it's t Higgins.

615
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, that would be a major loss.

616
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Speaker 1: For the Browns, it's Zadarius Smith.

617
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Speaker 2: Are they I mean, you have to reinvest in him.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. It's not like he

619
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Speaker 1: was a superstar this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's had a good career. I don't know

621
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Speaker 2: that he would be the one that I have to

622
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Speaker 2: have back. But although if they have a whole lot

623
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Speaker 2: of other names that are hitting free agency that are.

624
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Speaker 1: Going to look at it that what he did this year,

625
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was as good as there were.

626
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Speaker 1: He had some games. If me do this year, I

627
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Speaker 1: don't remember him five and a half sacks. Okay, this

628
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: is the This is again one of the problems with

629
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Speaker 1: with PFF. Over the last two seasons, Smith's ninety point

630
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Speaker 1: one pass rush grade is seventh among his edge rushers.

631
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Speaker 1: He had five and a half sacks this year. Don't

632
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Speaker 1: give me this pass rush wins.

633
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Speaker 2: I remember that he was really highly graded for them

634
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Speaker 2: a year ago.

635
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Speaker 1: He had ten sacks two years ago.

636
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's a seventh on him according to Pro

637
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Speaker 5: Football Focus, the seventh best edge rushing or pass rusher

638
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Speaker 5: off the edge, and in the last two seasons he

639
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 5: has fifteen and a half sacks.

640
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

641
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Speaker 1: Sorry, that doesn't add up. It just doesn't.

642
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they can live without him. I mean,

643
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: he's still a good player, but I don't know, you

644
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: have to break the back to keep him.

645
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I be nice for them to have him backshort,

646
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they can afford him.

647
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: I think he had a somewhat successful year, but he

648
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 2: didn't you know, sway the tides in your direction.

649
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: And he was the one who was Well, he's playing

650
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: opposite Miles Garrett. He should have a gazillion sacks this year.

651
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, what happened?

652
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't have one for the Cowboys's Tyrone Smith.

653
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 2: I think so. I mean there's some of these dudes

654
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: like Mike Evans and that are lifers that I think

655
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: it does a lot of good to bring them back. Yeah,

656
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: you know.

657
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: For the Broncos, it's Lloyd Cushionberry.

658
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: I kind of consider him.

659
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Speaker 1: For the Steelers, Yeah, I was just gonna ask you

660
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Speaker 1: that if he hits the open market, I mean he's

661
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: still young enough that.

662
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 2: He's gotten better and better. He's pretty talented dude. He'ld

663
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Speaker 2: be one of those maybe my favorite free agent center.

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Speaker 1: For Detroit, it's guard Graham Glasgow.

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Speaker 2: He can also play center. They have Rag Noow. I

666
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Speaker 2: don't know how old he is.

667
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Speaker 1: They get some great like rag Now and Glasgow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he would be someone to consider at least. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For the Packers, it's cornerback Keishawn Nixon, but he's more

670
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: of a he's been.

671
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 2: A slot for him, yeah, which I would. He's a

672
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Speaker 2: great returner, Yeah, I mean that's his and I think

673
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: he's good on teams in general, but he's a great returner.

674
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Speaker 2: He's really progressed as a slot.

675
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Speaker 1: For Houston Jonathan Greenard. They gotta keep hicking.

676
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh for the coltsist Michael Pittman. I think he

678
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: gets franchised for the Jaguars. Josh Allen, I think he

679
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: gets franchised for the Chiefs. Chris Jones. Yeah, they can't

680
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: franchise him. That was part of the new deal that

681
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Speaker 1: they made with.

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Speaker 2: Him, because they franchised him this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they redid the deal because he wasn't

684
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Speaker 1: going to show up and part of I think part

685
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Speaker 1: of the deal is that they they weren't going to

686
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Speaker 1: franchise him again.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's interesting because Snead is going to be

688
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: a highly regarded foreigner. Two their starting linebackers are both

689
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Speaker 2: up as well. Not Bolton, but they played Bolton and

690
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: they played four of them. Actually, But who were talking

691
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Speaker 2: about Uh used to be a Charger now he's a

692
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: green Law green Law. Yeah, No, we just we just

693
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: talked about him yesterday.

694
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Speaker 1: It was it was a Notre dame.

695
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: Dude was on tip my tongue a second ago. But

696
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: he's up. Willie Gay juniors up as well. Like they

697
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: got a handful of defensive play that are up. So

698
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: crazy stat I heard today about Chris Jones. It's something

699
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: we've talked about him for a while too like he's phenomenal,

700
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: but he has like nine tackles this year in the

701
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: first three quarters against the run, and he's totally turns

702
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Speaker 2: it on when he wants to, and lately I'm sure

703
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: he will on Sunday, you know, but he's been saving himself.

704
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Speaker 1: To say the least. It's one of the things that

705
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Speaker 1: drives me nuts about him.

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Speaker 2: Right. It's been like that his whole career, but he's

707
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Speaker 2: taken to a new level this season.

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Speaker 1: For the Raiders, it's center Andre James.

709
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: He's another center I've been kind of keeping an eye

710
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: on getting better and better. That's why they traded Hudson

711
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: a while back.

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Speaker 1: For the Chargers is tight end Gerald Everett.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how they can possibly. I was

714
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: he good enough to really invest in considering all their woes?

715
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know that you can do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if they have any intensive taking Rock Bowers,

717
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Speaker 2: then there's no way they'll bring Edwards back wherever back.

718
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Speaker 1: For the Rams, it's guard Kevin Dotson.

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Speaker 2: Played well for them. I mean I wouldn't think he'd

720
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Speaker 2: break the bank. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh. For the Dolphins, defensive lineman Christian Wilkins, Yes.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's considered a big time team leader. They

723
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Speaker 2: want him to be there Cam Hayward for the next decade.

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Speaker 1: They don't have any money. For the Vikings, it's ed

725
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Speaker 1: rusher Danielle Hunter. They suppose they had to move some

726
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Speaker 1: things around this year to keep him.

727
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I guess it depends what you do

728
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: with Cousins too.

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Speaker 1: For the Patriots, it's offensive lineman Michael on Awnu.

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Speaker 2: He's one that would interest me too, Like, I think

731
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Speaker 2: they've kind of done him wrong by moving him all

732
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Speaker 2: over the place. If you just stick him at right tackle,

733
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: he's really good. Yeah, I mean, and maybe you could

734
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Speaker 2: get him at a somewhat of a discount on the

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Speaker 2: open market.

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Speaker 1: For the Saints, Michael Thomas. Really, he's not coming back.

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Speaker 1: He's not going back. No, I don't see that happening.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they want him back.

739
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Speaker 2: I don't either.

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Speaker 1: For the Giants, it's Xavier McKinney.

741
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Speaker 2: Oh, I'd be interested in him too. Yeah, he's a

742
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: good young player. That's you know, bam a background. He'd

743
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: be nice with Mega.

744
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: For the Jets' ed rusher Bryce Huff, they use him well.

745
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a two hundred and thirty pounds, not

746
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: every down player, but they've gotten a lot out of

747
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: him per snap.

748
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: His pass rush right over the past two seasons only

749
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: trails Miles Garrett. That's all he does.

750
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Speaker 2: That's all he does. Yeah, and it's not like he's

751
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: got thirty.

752
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: Sacks for the Eagles. Fletcher Cox.

753
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Speaker 2: I wonder what do you do with Graham and Cox?

754
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 2: You know, Kelsey just retired. Season ended. Poor Lee looks

755
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: slow and old. I mean, I know Lane Johnson will

756
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: be back, but some of their Cam Hayward types mighty

757
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: time to eventually say we got to use his money elsewhere.

758
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For San Francisco edge rusher Chase Young.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I don't think they've been happy

761
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: at all with him. He's been very hit or miss.

762
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: Doesn't like playing the run either.

763
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Speaker 1: But his fifteen point two percent pass rush win rate

764
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Speaker 1: was top was a top thirty in the in the

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Speaker 1: league according to Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: Thirty is not even that great to begin with, and

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Speaker 2: he gave up a pretty high pick for the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh, for the Seahawks, kind of the same thing, Leonard Williams.

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Speaker 1: You traded for him, You gave up draft picks to

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Speaker 1: get him. At the Yeah, and then you didn't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and.

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Speaker 2: I'd say that's a bad trade. Yeah, I mean that's

774
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Speaker 2: not even Leonard's fault or whatever. You know, he's expensive

775
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: and their defense was still trash and it's still trash.

776
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Speaker 2: Like that's a great move by the Giants, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we like you, but we're not making the playoffs. We're

778
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Speaker 2: gonna dump you. And they got a second round.

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Speaker 1: Pick from the Giants. I signed him back.

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00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, love on that right whatever.

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Speaker 1: He can still play, uh for the Buccaneers safety Antoine Winfield.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's a good franchise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like, to be honest, if you said, Matt, you could

785
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Speaker 2: have any free agent that's do whose contracts up to

786
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Speaker 2: add to the Steelers, he'd be pretty high on the list.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really good for the Titans. Linebacker Aziz al Shaier.

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Speaker 2: We liked him a year ago. But he can run

789
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Speaker 2: and he didn't do anything that I thought was I mean,

790
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't think his stock has changed. Some of these

791
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: guys from last year's linebacker class looks like they could

792
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Speaker 2: be available this year. Right, that's to be a cut, yeah,

793
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: or one year deals. Yeah, I'd I'd kick the tires

794
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: on him, mix him in, uh.

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Speaker 1: And for the Commander's Safety camera and curl.

796
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Speaker 2: They franchised him, Like people know who he is. I mean,

797
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: he's a really good player, but he's just some late

798
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: round pick I don't think he's like franchise worthy. I

799
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Speaker 2: mean it was one of the best safeties in the league.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what he'd cost on the open market. Probably

801
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Speaker 2: quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you get it. I mean he's coming off

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Speaker 1: a franchise.

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00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he wasn't the problem this year for the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, that's the names. Yeah, that's some of the lists

807
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: they're off of Pro Football Focus. We're gonna get to

808
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: another road.

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Speaker 2: Like, with all respect to Watts, he's not the level

810
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Speaker 2: of most of those dudes. Like, if your biggest problem

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Speaker 2: is bringing back that's kind of.

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Speaker 1: The beauty of what the season is. Yeah, I mean

813
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: next year is a different story, but this year is not.

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Speaker 2: He also knock a couple of those out this offseason.

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Speaker 1: But that's also it's it lines up and it was

816
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Speaker 1: really smart way to do it. It lines up with

817
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Speaker 1: when Pickett's contray, you either have to make a decision.

818
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: On him or not. Yeah right, okay, yeah, yeah, you

819
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Speaker 2: got to know those things.

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Speaker 1: No accident, No, not at all. We're gonna get to

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Speaker 1: a break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lallie. You're

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Speaker 1: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with more right after this. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: and Matt. We kind of reference this a little bit yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't really talk about it at great length.

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Speaker 2: I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we did anyways. Yeah, uh, looking here

829
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: at the conference championship games, you know Tom Brady has fourteen.

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Speaker 2: I think we talked about this off the era. That's

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Speaker 2: what I thought.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know we were talking about it and it

834
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Speaker 2: was a good conversation.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I forget when we're talking about these.

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Speaker 2: Things when the record button gets Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But fourteen championship game appearances for Tom Brady, that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: The two next closest guys are Steve Young, Joe mont

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Speaker 1: Or three next closest Steve Young, Joe Montana Roger staup

840
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Speaker 1: Okay had seven each, but some of those Young was

841
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: the backup to Montana.

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00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: Like Garoppolo's on here, a couple of times, like as

843
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: a starter. I mean, Brady's all are his, you know,

844
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: but a couple of these names you have to remember

845
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Speaker 2: they made it as a backup, like Young was not

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Speaker 2: there every time as the guy.

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Speaker 1: I bring this up because Mahomes this is his fifth

848
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: appearance five and five, five and five years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's remarkable too.

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Speaker 1: Which right now is tied for fourth most all time.

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00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's undefeated. I mean he's one.

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00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Every year.

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00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he year he's never fallen short. Yeah, I

854
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: mean a bad year for him as losing the championship game.

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00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 1: The guys that he is tied with are it's Patrick Mahomes,

856
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Peyton Manning, Donovan McNabb, Brett Favre,

857
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Speaker 1: Jim Kelly, and Ken Stabler.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these are these Hall of famers except for

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Speaker 2: maybe McNabb basically yeah, yeah, and McNab was good. It's remarkable.

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Speaker 2: I mean's remarkable what he did. What we were talking

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Speaker 2: about off the air is people forget Ben went to five.

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Speaker 1: He went to five fives a lot five is a

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Speaker 1: ton coming the fourth most all time.

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Speaker 2: And one of those was Young, who wasn't the starter

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Speaker 2: I'm not giving credit to the backup guys. Yeah, I'm sorry.

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00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean, Young's tremendous. He did some stuff on his own,

867
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Speaker 2: but the fact that he has what six seven seven

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00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: aren't all on him. You know, he's sitting on the

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Speaker 2: sidelines for most of those.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guys. The two guys tied for third

871
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: are John Elway and Terry Bradshaw.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable company.

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Speaker 1: So when people talk about the Steelers wasting Roethlisberger's this year,

874
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: these years, he went to five conference championship games.

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Speaker 2: I know, the fourth most all time. People are upset

876
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: going all those. Some of those games didn't go as

877
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: we wanted. Of course they didn't. I think, like, this

878
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 2: is gonna make me crazy. If Baltimore, I know, you

879
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: guys all hate Baltimore, Fine, I get no problem with that.

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00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 2: Hate Baltimore you want, But if they lose, the narrative

881
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 2: is going to be they stink, what a bad season?

882
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 2: Over rated? No, I don't care. It was by forty.

883
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: If this is Lamar's first shot in the conference championship, yeah,

884
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: the first one. Yeah, it took him. What is this

885
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: year five for him?

886
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: I think so?

887
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 1: Or four.

888
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: He's a year younger than Mahomes.

889
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Mahomes has been the five as he didn't go his

890
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: first year, So this is year six for me as

891
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: a starter. It wasn't starter, right, So this is year

892
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: five for Lamar for Lamar, Yeah, Lamar's won two MVP

893
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: Awards and this will be his first one.

894
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: This will be his first championship game. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.

895
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: That's not a bad ratio. It's not if you go

896
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: every five years that you're still on a Hall of

897
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: Fame pace. Yeah.

898
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: Drew Brees went to three.

899
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: Went to three. Wow.

900
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: I mentioned that the numbers are the you know, some

901
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: of the guy the guys who have four, Troy Aikman,

902
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: Quit Detmer, and Frank Raker on that count. Berniekozar went

903
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: to four. He wasn't a starter for all four. No,

904
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: the same with Gary Kubiak, Danny White, and Earl World.

905
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: These are all back I mean Frank Reich's, Yeah, they

906
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: are their respective teams.

907
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: They may have started one of those games.

908
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: Andy White might have, yeah, but like Frank, which didn't. No,

909
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of those guys are just lifetime backups.

910
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 2: They almost shouldn't even be on the list.

911
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be, but they are.

912
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: Young's the one that's a little hairy because he did

913
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: a fair amount of both. I don't know the numbers,

914
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: but most of the time he's watching Joe.

915
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: But that's that's the list of guys who've been went

916
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 4: to four, went the four even as a backup. So

917
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 4: side note, can Mahomes catch Brady? Yeah, yeah, that's not

918
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 4: the maggiost hitting streak.

919
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 2: I mean, like it's not Gretzky's goals like that could

920
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: it's amazing that anyone can catch him. But if anyone

921
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: can Mahomes, I mean he's not gonna hit one hundred

922
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

923
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: I mean Patrick Mahomes right now is twenty eight.

924
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: What's he at.

925
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: He's already been the.

926
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: Five, so he needs nine more at the time.

927
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: He needs nine more to time. So he did to

928
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: play until he's thirty seven, and he'd have to go

929
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: almost but he's gone every year thus far. And Brady

930
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: went almost every year almost every year. There was a

931
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: stretch there in the middle of his career where he.

932
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Didn't One thing that helps Brady, I would say helps

933
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: Brady is back then two teams got to buy Yeah,

934
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: you know where the Chiefs are now on the road

935
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: for the first time, but he still made it right.

936
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can catch them. I mean,

937
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: you pretty much have to go every year.

938
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

939
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: I mean it's crazy. But the fact that we're even

940
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: had the conversation is remarkable.

941
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: About Mahome for the Super Bowl, Brady has ten ten,

942
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Elway had five.

943
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: Ten's impossible to catch. Maybe, I mean, Mahomes is the

944
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 2: only I mean, Mahomes is.

945
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: The guys with four you're looking at Manning Peyton. Yeah,

946
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: Kelly over four out right again because he was Kelly's backup.

947
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: Montana Bradshaw stawback and Morale.

948
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: Morale was also back.

949
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: It was also a backup.

950
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

951
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: The guys with three, Well, Mahomes is already there with three.

952
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, which is unbelievable. They might

953
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: get four.

954
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger, Kurt Warner, Troy Aikman, Gary Kubiak was a backup.

955
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a Frank Reich lifetime backup to Hall of famers.

956
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: Fran Tarkand and Bob Greasy.

957
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: By the way, that's a great way to become a

958
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: head coach and just be like Aikman or Kelly's backup.

959
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's not and then the end up being

960
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: a head coat.

961
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: But those are the guys who went to three. And

962
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: there are Steeler fans who will argue that the Steeler

963
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: should have won way more. They should have won way

964
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: more Super Bowls with Ben Roethlisberger.

965
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't bring it up enough. Like the AFC

966
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: at that time wasn't much different than the AFC at

967
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 2: this time quarterback wise. I mean, like you don't hear

968
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 2: Rivers name on there. Rivers was awesome. I mean, is

969
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: River is going to be Lamar? Is River's going to

970
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: be you know, Lawrence or Shroud or you know, like

971
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: someone's going to be short on those lists, you know,

972
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: like who I'm missing somebody else? But there was Peyton, Brady,

973
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: Ben Rivers, Like these are all for that big time quarter.

974
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: Like two decade time period. The quarterback coming out of

975
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: the AFC was Tom Brady, Ben Roethlisberger, Peyton Manning and

976
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: Flacco once.

977
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, guys, there's other The other three owned it.

978
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: Of course, Brady had the biggest chunk of the pie.

979
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean it's pretty crazy. I don't think

980
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: that you could say this is a blanket statement but

981
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: did any team have a bad year. If you lose

982
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: in the championship round.

983
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels bad because you were that close.

984
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: Like remember the Gary Anderson miss for the Vikings.

985
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: They were dominam won that year.

986
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: They were fifteen to one, they were dominant year and

987
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: they lost in the NFC Championship to the Dirty Birds.

988
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: Does that mean they weren't that didn't have a successful year,

989
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: or even taking a step further, the undefeated Patriots losing

990
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl to the Giants, they had disappointment. If

991
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: they are, then it's the bar's too high for anyone

992
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: to get over if those are disappointing seasons, like you

993
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: lose one.

994
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 1: So I mean, so this is one of the things

995
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: that happens with the Steelers. I get the goal every year,

996
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: of course, is to win the Super Bowl, which is

997
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: what it should be. Of course, that doesn't mean and

998
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 1: this is one area where I think Kevin Colbert kind

999
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: of maybe oversold things a little bit. But he's you know, hey,

1000
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: if we didn't if we didn't win the super Bowl

1001
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: that year, we're disappointed. The year was a disappointment. Well, yeah,

1002
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: it's a disappointment, but that doesn't mean.

1003
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: You probably lost your last game, and that's disappointing. I

1004
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: get it, Yes, but it doesn't mean it was a

1005
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: bad year, right, I mean, I don't think anybody thinks

1006
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: that way, and maybe it just comes out of Kevin's

1007
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: mouth not the way it should. Yes, it's disappointing. The

1008
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: ride home from Buffalo was disappointing. This year.

1009
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: Elway went to five Super Bowls. One what two?

1010
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: I thought he lost four?

1011
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: He has two and he won two. Yeah at the end, okay, yeah,

1012
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: but he went to five? Was each one of those

1013
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: five times you were you made it to the biggest stage.

1014
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: And I think they got walloped in the first three. Yeah,

1015
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: you know, like people it's kind of I know, but

1016
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: everyone talks about l Way and Micha Well, who'd he

1017
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 2: have around him? They're like all the three amigos, Michael,

1018
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 2: who the three amigos? I don't know. I think the

1019
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: one name was Jackson And you're like, it.

1020
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: Wasn't nade me. Some defensive players on the rest.

1021
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: Carl Mecklenberg was on that team, Like he took them

1022
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 2: there himself three times in a row and they fell short.

1023
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: You know, that wasn't like the Kelly Bills with Hall

1024
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: of Famers all around him. Yeah, and then he finally

1025
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: had some people around him late in his career and

1026
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: handed the ball off and won super Bowls.

1027
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: But it's to think that you should win the super

1028
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: Bowl every year because Tom Brady, or go to the

1029
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: super Bowl because Tom Brady did it. Like, if you

1030
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: take him out of the equation, yeah, Elway's the leader

1031
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: with five five five.

1032
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: Five of non Brady quarterbacks that have ever walked the planet.

1033
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 2: If you take five as the most, you take.

1034
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: Brady out of the equation for conference championship games, it's seven.

1035
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is a ton. Imagine telling your grandkids I

1036
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: went to seven AFC championship games seven seven. Yeah, I

1037
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: played fifteen years, and half the time I got the

1038
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: go wow, you played fifteen years. That's amazing.

1039
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: I think I've I think I've actually covered maybe seven

1040
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: AFC championship games that the Steelers have been in. Yeah,

1041
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: I'd have to sit back, and I covered all five

1042
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: of Ben's.

1043
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: Which, frankly, for a beat reporter is a really good

1044
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: record for you.

1045
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: I've covered four super Bowls at the Steelers.

1046
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a lot more than most

1047
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: dudes that got hired the same year.

1048
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: I've covered more of those than than anybody who covers

1049
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: the Browns has been in.

1050
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, in many teams it will be

1051
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: able to I mean so hypothetical. You know this all

1052
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: this narrative, and this is a huge game for Lamar's legacy,

1053
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: of course, But let's say Mahomes loses Sunday and never

1054
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: gets back to a conference championship. You know, good teams

1055
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 2: win the division, ten wins, eleven wins, not much around them,

1056
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: pro bowler, is it gonna be like what could have been?

1057
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: That guy would have been really good if you stuck

1058
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: with it. You know, like if if Mahomes doesn't maintain

1059
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 2: elite best player in the league chasing Brady status, which

1060
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: he probably won't, I mean, I mean, if anyone can,

1061
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: it's him, But it's still a remarkable accomplishment. I mean,

1062
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: if the next five years are as good as the

1063
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: first five, right, we're gonna think that guy really fell off.

1064
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: Or if he goes through his period like Brady did

1065
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: in the middle of his career exactly right, right, and

1066
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: they him make it like once every three years. Yeah, Oh,

1067
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: it is disappointing.

1068
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember when Mahomes was really good? Yeah, it was

1069
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: yesterday today.

1070
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: I think I've covered nine AFC championships really with the

1071
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: Steelers have been in so it was ninety four, ninety five,

1072
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: ninety seven, two thousand and one, four, five, eight, ten

1073
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: and sixteen. Yeah, that's nine.

1074
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: Wow. For your own fun if what year was your

1075
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 2: first year of covering the Steelers ninety three? So from

1076
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: ninety three to present, as any other team besides the

1077
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: Patriots been to Moore, I don't least, I'm just assuming not.

1078
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: But that's a long stretch.

1079
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: That's once basically one every three years or so.

1080
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, I mean, like how many the Packers go

1081
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: in that time? I mean the Patriots have to have

1082
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: the most. The Chiefs have at least five.

1083
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: I think the Packers went to all that many. Aaron

1084
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: Rodgers has been to five. Where's Farvet on here? I

1085
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: don't see farv on the list.

1086
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 2: He bet he's been to one or two though, but

1087
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: that will be it. I know. I'm trying to think

1088
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: who's even in the conversation, like Seattle's not I mean,

1089
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: Kansas City's approaching those numbers, but they didn't go to

1090
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: hardly any before that. I think Montana might one.

1091
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean nine is right. I can you know,

1092
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: I was. I was a spoiled beat writer for a while. Exactly.

1093
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: Expect to go to.

1094
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: The DFC just cover. You know your season is going

1095
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: to end sometime at the end of January every.

1096
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Speaker 2: Yearn let's don't make any plans for vacation until about

1097
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: this time of the year, right, None in January? Maybe later.

1098
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it doesn't happen, you know, for most of

1099
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: the time, it does happened like that.

1100
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. I mean the history of the league

1101
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 2: just shows that. Yeah. And I actually think no offense

1102
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 2: to seventies Steelers, I think it's easier to go then.

1103
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too, you had the same nucleus together.

1104
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: I say, once you're there, you should be in it

1105
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: at least a couple of years. They don't come take

1106
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 2: Chris Jones off, you and Tyreek Hill and.

1107
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, unless you don't want them anymore.

1108
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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. So, I mean it's harder for the teams,

1109
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: for the Lions to go from nowhere to somewhere in

1110
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 2: the seventies. But I think once you're there, you get it, bet.

1111
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: And there's also a couple fewer teams, yeah, fewer games.

1112
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Speaker 1: Anyways, let's get to another break here that's going to

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Speaker 1: do it for our number one of the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with our number

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Speaker 1: two right after this