1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I can handle any more kids. Finally, 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: something we can agree on, dead ass. Hey, I'm Cadine 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: and we're the ellis Is. You may know us from 4 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: posting funny videos with our voice and reading each other 5 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: publicly as a form of therapy. Wait, I'll make you 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: need therapy most days. Wow. And one more important thing 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: to mention, we're married. We are. We created this podcast 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: to open dialogue about some of life's most taboo topics, 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: things most folks don't want to talk about through the 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: lens of a millennium married couple. Dead As is the 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: term that we say every day. So when we say 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: dead ass, we're actually saying facts, the truth, the whole truth, 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: and nothing but the truth. We're about to take philow 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: Talk to a whole new level. Dead Ass starts right now. 15 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: This story takes me back to last week when the 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: theme was in the hospital. All right. I remember in 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: one day, I had to wake up in the morning, 18 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: take Cairo and Cas to school, come back, go to 19 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: the hospital, check on you, make sure that Dakota had 20 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: the things he needs. Drive back, make sure that Jackson 21 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: got prepared for basketball practice. Drive back to pass you 22 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: some stuff that you needed from home. I think I'll 23 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: take you some food. Drive back home to actually take 24 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: Jackson to basketball practice. When I came back, Cairo said 25 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: to me, Daddy, do you have time to work out 26 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: with me too? Went downstairs to work out with Cairo. 27 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm down there, Cas goes, hey, Dad, I think I 28 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: want to work out too. So now I'm trying to 29 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: balance the two of them working. Get a text message, 30 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: hey babe, when you come back tonight, make sure you 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: bring X y Z. By the time I got back 32 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: to you that night, I realized I do shit for myself, 33 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: and I realized the coda. Only seven days old, I 34 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: had ran back and forth so many times from the 35 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: hospital for stuff that the kids needed, and I realized 36 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: that I have a whole another child that's gonna need 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: my attention. And in that moment, I realized, like yo, 38 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: for the next eighteen years, for the next eighteen years, 39 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have between four children and a wife y 40 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: all the weeker to the of the road. Still like 41 00:02:55,560 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: kids go, It's it's very natural actually belong to them. 42 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: That's funny because when I think about your story time, 43 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: of course, it was in a high pressure situation when 44 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: we have the whole hospital stint and whatnot. However, if 45 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: you were to remove that hospital stint, it would still 46 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: be replaced with all the things on a random Tuesday 47 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: that we have going on. Right, not to mention, we 48 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: were just talking about the fact that we have four 49 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: boys who will be involved in four different activities, sports 50 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: or whatever. What is that going to look like when 51 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: they all have to be at practice at whatever time 52 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: in different locations, or they have games or events at 53 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: different times of different locations. It's literally going to be 54 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: like a whole like spread situation where you're gonna have 55 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: to go there, You're gonna have to go there, We're 56 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to bribe a family member to go to 57 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: an event. Like. There's gonna be so many things happening 58 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: that I just honestly feel like for is it for 59 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: as the CAP. I don't foresee myself being able to 60 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: be the quality I don't see. I don't five c 61 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: or sixty, I don't I don't foresee myself being the 62 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: quality parent that I aim to be if we were 63 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: to have any more children, Like, I just feel like, 64 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: whatever souls, these beautiful souls that were supposed to be 65 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: here with us, this is who the Lord has blessed 66 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: us with. These are the children who have chosen us. 67 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: I cannot dilute or water down who I want to 68 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: be as a mother. That was always a fair of 69 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: mine that I would not be able to be a 70 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: quality parent if I had too many children. Now that's debatable. 71 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: How many are too many. It depends on the person's circumstances, 72 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: the couple circumstances. It depends on what you desire to 73 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: be as a parent. But I always knew that the 74 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: person that I wanted to be as a mother to 75 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: each child, and to be able to give each child 76 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: the time that they deserve and each child the attention 77 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: that they deserved, that I just can't go. So I 78 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: got a question. I'm going to ask the question when 79 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: we come back from break, because we gotta take a break, 80 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: pay some bills. But I have a question once we 81 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: go through the you know, the whole show. There's a 82 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: question that they always ask women. I'm gonna ask you 83 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: at the very end of the show. I think it 84 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: is okay, all right, take a break, gonna take a break, 85 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: but response you okay, alright, So we're bad guys. Moving 86 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: into the topic of the show. We have to recognize 87 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: that it is a new year. This is the season 88 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: six finale, but it's not the end. It's the beginning. 89 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: It's like it's the beginning of the year, but in 90 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: preparation for the beginning of the year, I'm in preparation 91 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: for the beginning of the next eighteen years of my life. 92 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: For the next of my life, I'm going to be 93 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: taking care of a little person. It's the starting over 94 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: for me. Like I was coming out of that. We 95 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: were out of diapers, we were out of baby bags. 96 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: Like I went to pack Dacota's bag recently and I 97 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: was just like, wait a second, I'm here again with stuff. 98 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: They're just always stuff to be trucking around. Um. And 99 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: it's not a complaint. It's just the realization that here 100 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: we are again, you know. UM. But we're loving it. 101 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: He's great, the boys are great. It's just really trying 102 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: to um answer the question, which of course everyone always asks. 103 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: You have two kids, when's the third, you have three, 104 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: when's the fourth, you have fourth, when's the fifth? You 105 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: have all boys? When's the girl? Like? Um, the questions 106 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: never seemed to end. But I think it's easy to answer. 107 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: They were asking me when you were pregnant if we 108 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: were gonna go right back for five because we had 109 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: announced that we were having another boy, and now I 110 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: was gonna say this question. I want to ask you, now, 111 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: do you feel in your spirit that you're done? So 112 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fair. I'm gonna be honest, very honest, 113 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: probably the most honest that I've ever been, based on 114 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: the pregnancies that I've had, right, I would say, for 115 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: the most part, textbook. For the most part, I enjoyed 116 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: pregnancies and all that, particularly even Dakota Um, which we 117 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: spoke about in previous episodes. Because of the environment we 118 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: were in, the space that we've been in, I would 119 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: have another child, or would have had another child. I 120 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: would have I would h I would have been open 121 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: to maybe one more, right, But the thing that has 122 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: changed that for me drastically was my episode that drove 123 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: me to the hospital with the postpartum preclamua. And I 124 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: say that because if I were to get pardon again, 125 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: there's probably a greater chance that I would have full 126 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: blown preclampsa in a pregnancy. But that answered the question. 127 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: So you don't feel like you're done having kids? You 128 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: just feel like you're done having pregnant, being pregnancy, being pregnant. Oh, 129 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: I see what you mean. Yeah, No, it's probably both 130 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: because then I also said you said I probably would 131 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,679 Speaker 1: have had a fifth. But then also I think about 132 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: what would be required, what would be required to then 133 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: raise a fifth or entertain a fifth, or to have 134 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: to divide time between five children. You know. The question 135 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: was did you feel like you were done? And based 136 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: on your answer, sounds like you don't feel like you're done. 137 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: You feel like, SO feel I've done being pregnant, right, 138 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: So I would you have another child? How I feel 139 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: about surregacy either for myself personally, so probably not. So 140 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: I guess that the answer is no, I would not 141 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: have any more children. I am done carrying children. Um, yeah, 142 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm done. I think you're I'm done. I think I 143 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: can say I'm done. Yeah. I guess I had to 144 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: decipher how to answer the question only because there's a 145 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: difference between being pregnant again and then wanting another child. 146 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm done having I'm done. I'm gonna say 147 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm done having children. I'm done being pregnant 148 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: because I feel like four is my cap Four is 149 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: where I don't foresee myself being able to pour anything 150 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: more into any other children. I don't think it will 151 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: be fear to the children we already have, plus another child, 152 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: meaning a fifth child, to be able to give them 153 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: the quality mother that I aim to be. Does that 154 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: make sense? It makes sense, does make sense. But I 155 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: do feel like part of that comes from us just 156 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: having a baby, and you're pouring all of this energy 157 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: into da coda and being exhausted, so you kind of 158 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: feel like, you know what I'm saying right now, But 159 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: I do think that could change if a year from 160 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: now we're in a routine Cairo and Kats are taking 161 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: care of and everything is fine. I feel like you 162 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: may say, Babe, no, I don't know. Maybe if I 163 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: was younger, Maybe if I, like we were both younger, 164 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: so we had like another child between Jackson and Cairo, 165 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: then maybe you know what I mean. Because I'm also 166 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: no spring chicken, it may be clear to me that 167 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: I am over thirty five, and you know what I mean. 168 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: And it's like carrying a fourth baby would be a 169 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: lot now to just on my body and my uterus, 170 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: and it would just be a lot, if it would 171 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: just be I'm not advocating for surregacy for you. But 172 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying a question was did you feel like in 173 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: your spirit you were done? And some people say that, 174 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: And the reason why I asked that is because you 175 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: don't feel complete till you've either reached that number of 176 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: reach what you see, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 177 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: So it's like, which I kind of sturd passed my 178 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: number because my number of my mind was three, So 179 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: having four, I'm like, okay, like this is max, you 180 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I think the question is 181 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: too full, which when you asked it that way, it 182 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: makes are you done with pregnancies? I would say, yes, 183 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm done with pregnancies. And I think part of it 184 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: became kind of almost forced on me too, because I 185 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: feel like it was confirmation, like the Good Lord was saying, girl, 186 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: this is it for you because I'm gonna throat this 187 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: little preclaims the situation there for you. Um, just to 188 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: let you know that potentially in the future, if you 189 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: do this again, you might have more complications. Like that's 190 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: just what I That's like a message that I feel 191 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: like I got. Well, have you ever heard of the 192 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: law of least resistance? Remind me what that is, and 193 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: it's the law that you don't go against the universe 194 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: or things that have happened, and you let you let 195 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: what happens in your life happen as if the ecosystem 196 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: of life happens. For example, if you look at nature, 197 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: nature flows, the circle of life flows, and it doesn't 198 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: get interrupted by things. It just happens. Right, So if 199 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: you're aligned, your line eat gazelles, gazells eat the grass. 200 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, the lines die, they turned into the grass. 201 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's like there's a circle of life just 202 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: like's on the line king. So the law of least 203 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: resistance say, when living your life as a human, you 204 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: don't try to create your own path against the universe. 205 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: So for example, when you just said, my body is 206 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: telling me I'm done having pregnancies, so that means I'm 207 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: done having children. But we know with modern science, you 208 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: could have or we could do something else and still 209 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: try to have another child and use science to fight 210 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: against pre clamps. Here if that's a possibility, or do 211 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: you say, you know what my body let me know, 212 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And I know a lot 213 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: of times men or humans want to use their will 214 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: to create the life that they say they want, because 215 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: that's what makes us different from animals. But also I've 216 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: learned over time that if you go with the flow 217 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: of the universe, which is typically the same thing as 218 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: saying if you go with God, your life will be 219 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: a lot easier. So your messages God is telling you, yes, 220 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: I feel like God is telling me that I'm done 221 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: like this is it's because it was a thing that 222 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: I was on my mind, like, Okay, at what point 223 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: are you done? You always hear women say I know 224 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: that I'm done because I just know that I'm done. 225 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's after one, sometimes it's after two. Sometimes 226 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: it's an experience, it's their labor is to delivery, it's 227 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: something that made them like a hard no on more. 228 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: And for me, I kind of feel like I just 229 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: look at my children every day and I just love 230 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: each and every one of them so much that part 231 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: of me feels crazy to feel like someday I would 232 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: I'd have ten children if I could have tenial you 233 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean, just because I love who my 234 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: children are. Um, but it's realistic, I think for me, No, 235 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: it's not realistic for me. And if there was this 236 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: on the fence feeling that I've had, I would think 237 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: that that particular situation just let me know that, k 238 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: you're done with pregnancies and children because I feel like 239 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: my body had been able and has been able to, 240 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: you know, easily for the most part, carry for beautiful 241 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: children and and birth them. Um. So this just might 242 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: be the end for me based off of that experience. 243 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: And this is this wasn't even on topic. This is 244 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: an impromptu conversation that I'm having with my wife right now. 245 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you would have been done in 246 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: your spirit? How we had a girl? And do you 247 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: feel like you're missing anything because we don't have a daughter? Um? No, 248 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: Because remember after Kaz, we'd had the conversation about potentially 249 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: having another child, and I was kind of content with three. 250 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: I was, I was more than content. Actually, I was like, 251 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: I was happy with my three boys, and I'm like, okay, 252 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm one of three. Year one of three. It felt 253 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: very natural, and then we got into this routine with 254 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: our three boys. There was Jackson, Cairo Katz. I've never 255 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: felt a deficit not having a daughter. I don't know why. Um, 256 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: would it have been nice? Yeah, it had been cute 257 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: to dress up with a little girl. Yeah, um, But 258 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: I feel like at the same time, God gave me 259 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: exactly what he knew I could handle. He knew what 260 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: I was equipped for, he knew what we were equipped 261 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: for as parents. I look at you and the stellar, 262 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: amazing man that you are today, and I look at 263 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: how you raise our boys and how involved you are 264 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: on a daily basis. And no knock on myself, but 265 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: I almost feel like he did that on purpose because 266 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: you're such a stellar man that we need more other 267 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: men if you're not a beast of a woman. But 268 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: at the same time mother a daughter to see how 269 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: of course not yeah, I wouldn't know how a parent 270 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: a daughter. But it's just like, man, like, the world 271 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: is in need of some amazing man. And not to 272 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: say that amazing men don't need amazing mothers, because because 273 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: they do, they do. But I don't feel like you're 274 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: giving yourself enough credit. I really don't. I feel like 275 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: you're you're using me as an example because we get 276 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: to see it. But I feel like if people got 277 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: a chance to see you be a mom to a daughter, 278 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: they would say the same thing. I mean, you're you're 279 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: an amazing mom to our sons. You know what I'm saying, 280 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: and you're an amazing woman, So I think that the 281 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: example you said as a woman would also be the 282 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: same example our daughter would see. Right For that, I guess, yeah, 283 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's one of those things that I don't know 284 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: what it feels like, so I don't necessarily feel the 285 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: deficit um. And I guess that probably is also my 286 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: way of justifying it, saying like, well, you're a great man, 287 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: and we got men that were raising so you know, 288 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: here we are. Um. But to answer your question, I 289 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: don't feel deficit, and that maybe because I don't have 290 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: that UM. If we had a girl this time around, 291 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: and we had the three boys and a girl, I 292 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: don't think my level of done this would have been 293 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: more or less per se, because they probably would have 294 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: been the question of like, oh, well, she would she 295 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: would would be nice if she had a sister, you know, 296 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: where everybody would have a brother and a sister. If 297 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: I had two girls and three boys, you know, so 298 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: there's always going to be that lingering question, well how 299 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: about you though? How about you though? Because you know 300 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: that that has always been the thing Devout has always 301 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: been talking about this girl that he wants to have 302 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: in the relationship you would want to have with a daughter. 303 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: So how do you feel now that we have four boys? 304 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: And where does that deficit life for you? Still? We'll 305 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: have a declaration, and I don't think it's going to 306 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: be the declaration that people are expecting from me. I 307 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: thought finally having a daughter would be where I'm like, 308 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: I feel complete. I literally felt that right. But we 309 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: had Dakota, and I feel like this is where I'm 310 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be. Like a nickname has been created for me, 311 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: the Kingmaker. I feel complete and whole with that name. 312 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: I look at Dakota and there's no level of disappointment 313 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: like when I even the idea of another boy and 314 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: walking down the street with my wife and all four 315 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: corners covered by my son's. To me is like, it 316 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: seems like this is not a knock on having a daughter. 317 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: But I thought that that was going to be a 318 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: missing void until I had four boys. And now I'm like, 319 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: this is the dopest thing that could have ever happened 320 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: to me, And I don't feel like I'm missing anything 321 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: at all. And the thing is even that is as 322 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: aint men to me because I was like I thought 323 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: I was gonna want to have another child. But I'm like, 324 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm not content, I feel complete. I feel I feel 325 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: like I seriously feel like, what would it have been 326 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: like to have a daughter. I don't know if I 327 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: would even be able to know how to help raise 328 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: a girl, like the same doubts you have. I maybe 329 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 1: God gave me exactly what I was supposed to have. 330 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: And I'm excited about the next eighteen years. Like, and 331 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: I know people are gonna be probably gonna be like, oh, 332 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: I thought I really wanted a daughter. I thought that 333 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: I wanted a daughter. I thought that having a daughter 334 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: was going to be the thing that wanted me to 335 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: end having kids. But no, yeah, like I'm Jackson, Cairo Cas, Dakota, 336 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: Like these are my my guys, Like these are like, 337 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: I don't I don't even like even thinking about it 338 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: is just making me smile. Have four sons, for I 339 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: have four sons. I have four perfectly healthy, beautiful sons 340 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: that I could groom and give the world to and 341 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: watch them just take the world by storm. And I'm 342 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: just excited about it. And I'm excited that you came 343 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: out on the other end of those four pregnancies. Super healthy, 344 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't have No, there's nothing in 345 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: me right now to be like kan. And that's why 346 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: I was asking you because I wanted to see how 347 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: you feel about it, because I'm good, right, No, I 348 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: definitely I'm great. Definitely feel like I'm good. I guess 349 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: when when you just think about it as a woman 350 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: like pregnancies versus children, because like you said, there are 351 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: with modern science, ways to potentially have more children if 352 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: we really wanted to. Um, But I think on both realms, 353 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: I know I definitely don't want to be pregnant again. 354 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to be pregnting again. And I feel 355 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: like there's there's a cat for me on the number 356 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: of children that I want to be able to raise 357 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: because I want to be able to of equality experience 358 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: to all of my children. So safe to say, y'all 359 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: that we are done and we're looking forward to the 360 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: next eighteen years and beyond um looking forward to then 361 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: beyond those years, you know what I mean? With us 362 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: gonna look like for us when we're empty nesters. That's 363 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a while from now. But um, I feel 364 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: like my next will never really be empty because as 365 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: a mom, of boys. I'm gonna be like, come back 366 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: whenever you're ready, you know what I mean, come back. 367 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Boys leave and they go out and they get their 368 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: own family, and girls typically come back. Um, and when 369 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: you look at my house, my parents house, Yeah, your 370 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: sisters back home is back home. She's young, she's ten 371 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: years younger than us though. So and when Brian was 372 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: done with college, he came back home. But um, he 373 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: came to live with me. But it's difficult for boys 374 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: to live in a house with their father, like all 375 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: that coast on the men. So I can't foresee four 376 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: boys coming back home. And but what I can foresee 377 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: is my boys going out there and finding they are 378 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: versions of their of their mom to raise a family. 379 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 1: And I could see all of them having mad girls. 380 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I would love that, Oh my god, I would love that. 381 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just throwing out there that I'm vetting vetting 382 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: daughters in law, just so y'all know, you know, because 383 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: it ain't only any old body WoT come up in 384 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: here such a so you know, um, any friends that 385 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: have daughter. It's funny because we have friends that have 386 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: daughters and stuff like that. And I'm just like, I 387 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: got my eye on such and such such we can 388 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: arrange this situation or at least put them in the 389 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: same circles to play, put them in the same stand by. 390 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: What if they don't even like each other, I don't know. 391 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: They'll they'll figure it out, figure it out. It's wishful 392 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: thinking on my part, you know what I mean. I 393 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,239 Speaker 1: know I won't be able to control that. But what 394 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: I do look forward to was raising these boys with 395 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: you with the great mindset that we are going to 396 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: instilling them certain values and certain you know, morals and 397 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: all that good stuff, UM, so that they'll be able 398 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: to go out there and make those decisions when the 399 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: time comes. You know what I mean. I have faith 400 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: in that, um and who they'll become. So all right, baby, 401 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: So let's talk about preparing for these next eighteen years 402 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: and beyond now that I think it's safe to say 403 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: that we're done bringing more children into this world. UM, 404 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: what are some things that you want to experience as 405 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: a family. I think while they're still young, I'll answer to. 406 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: But figure we interview each other a little bit and see, um, 407 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: if there's one thing I've learned about life. Listening to 408 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: Will Smith, he talked about laying a break, right, you 409 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: look at the wall. You don't try to create a wall, 410 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: because the thought of building a wall can be daunting. 411 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: But every day you have to lay a break, and 412 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: you lay each break perfectly until you get a perfect wall. 413 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: When I think about our kids in our life, I 414 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: don't really focus on the wall. I don't really focus 415 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: on the wall. I try to focus on each break. 416 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: Each break is a day, and and ultimately the year 417 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: becomes a small part of the wall. So initially, I 418 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: just want to focus on getting a schedule to where 419 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: we can be um parents to a newborn and not 420 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 1: take away from Jackson, Cairo, and cass because Jackson started 421 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: playing basketball and he enjoys that. I go to every 422 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: basketball practice. On top of that, UM filming, and I 423 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: have other things in the works. You and I have 424 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: other things in the work. I don't want to take 425 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: away from our our professional careers while having a newborn 426 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: and three kids. So initially, I just want to try 427 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: to find a way to create an experience where the 428 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: kids don't feel like they're left out. And I think 429 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: that maybe by building our village out here in Atlanta 430 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, trying to find people 431 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: that we can rely on who we trust that can 432 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: help us maneuver. Um, having your parents here, both of 433 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: them now really helps because before it was just Mimi, 434 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: and that was Mimi and Papa. So if Mimi is, 435 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 1: you know, doing something with Kats or taking him somewhere, 436 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: Poppa can do something with Kiro and I can make 437 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: sure I got Jackson, and then you have Dakota, and 438 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to keep as many adults as around 439 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: as we have kids to make sure each child feels 440 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: as if someone's always near them. So and initially that's 441 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: what it is. No, I like that. I like that's 442 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 1: definitely something that we felt we were lacking when we 443 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: moved to l A, which is where my mom came 444 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: with us. So now being in Georgia back east, even 445 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: just simple things like you know, um, Jackson's godmother, one 446 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: of my best friends, Christina, and her coming into town 447 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: for a weekend, like those are ways to pull people 448 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: in who we love and like you said, who we 449 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: trust to be around our kids, to also just be 450 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: our extended village, maybe not necessarily in our absence, but 451 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: just to love on them a little bit more. You know. Um, 452 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: I had heard the phrase or like I was like 453 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: a little quote that said like the days are long 454 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: with the years are short, and that told made me 455 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: cry maybe cry. And I saw it recently and it's 456 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: almost like, you know, God always sends little reminders to you, 457 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: or you're just scrolling through Instagram aimlessly, quote unquote, but 458 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: then you see something that really hits home. And it 459 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: was literally in the middle of me being up like 460 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: pumping one night and I was just scrolling through Instagram 461 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: and it just put things in perspective for me, because 462 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: it's like people want to a pace to be over with, 463 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: right Like you think, like, what's this newborn face is 464 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: over with and I'll be able to sleep or you know, 465 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: once this phase is over with, I'll be able to 466 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: do that and not really sometimes relishing and living in 467 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: that moment. So you recently looked at me one morning, 468 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: I was just like staring at Dakota with like the 469 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: hard eyes, and he was just like, man, you seem 470 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: really or you were like, you just seem really um 471 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: in love with this baby this time around, and I'm 472 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I'm just trying to soak up this 473 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: moment and remember what this feels like, especially knowing too 474 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: now I think I got emotional because and knowing like 475 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: this is gonna be my last baby. So this is 476 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: like the last newborn phase, the last you know, the 477 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: smell of that baby, the last cry that I'm gonna hear. 478 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: Like this, I just want to live in those moments 479 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: and soak them up and take a couple of videos 480 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: just for my safe keeping, you know. Um. Like we said, 481 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm not We're not gonna be putting out the blog 482 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: of the birth per se, but just having that for 483 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: myself to look back on our things that I want 484 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: to just really um enjoy um and enjoying different phases 485 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: with each child. Like Jackson, like said, it's going into basketball. 486 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: He's in his little preteen phase. He's into like to 487 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: his friends that he's made out here who come from 488 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: families that we've been able to get really close to recently. Um, 489 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: So I want to also be invested in what excites 490 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: him and finding ways to be excited. So now I'm 491 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: learning more about basketball around watching it in my downtime, 492 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: so I know what to do. So I'm not having 493 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: those delayed reactions like I did with you in football, 494 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, since I'm going to be a full blown 495 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: boy Mom, I need to start getting into the things 496 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: that they're interested in. So while they're young, I'm going 497 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: to make a conscious effort to be involved in the 498 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: things that they're in. Me and Kiro watch football highlights, 499 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, Um, I watched his karate moves. He asked 500 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: me to find him a gymnastics class, like just little 501 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: things like that to make sure that they can feel like, wow, 502 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: Mom really relates to me on some level. It may 503 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: not be all the time. I know Mom is sometimes 504 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: going to be annoying, um when I teach them how 505 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: to do things that they need to be to be 506 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: self sufficient. But at the same time, I want to 507 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: be able to relate to them, So I want to 508 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: start that while they're young. Well, you know what I 509 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: also want to to forster is like a closeness between 510 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: them even though they ten five, four and fourteen days? 511 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: How many days? Two days? I want to force a 512 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: bond between my boys where you when you look at them, 513 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: it's like I am my brother's keeper. You know, it 514 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me that Jackson is ten years the code, 515 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: the code is senior. I want them to be like 516 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: Y's my brother, you know. And I want to create 517 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: newer experiences of us doing things outside of our comfort zone. 518 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: I want to travel more in twenty twenty two. And 519 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: I know the code is young and he's a newborn 520 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but I don't care. I want 521 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: to create a stafe space where all of us as 522 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: a family can travel and experience things outside of the 523 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: United States, UM, and just experience the world differently to 524 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: change their perspective. You know. UM. One of my buddies, myself, 525 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: Vernon whose has as godfather, we always talked about living 526 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: beyond the front porch. And so many black boys and 527 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: girls only exist up until they're stoop because in a 528 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: in a way to protect them from the world, their 529 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,959 Speaker 1: parents often guard them by not letting them see passed 530 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: what's on their front stoop. And then you have other 531 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: black boys and girls who are just out there who 532 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: get to see only their community, and that creates what 533 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: their idea of the world is, where there's so much 534 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: more to this world than your neighborhood, your high school, 535 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: your you know, your country. The world is huge, and 536 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: sometimes their parents may not have the resources to be 537 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: able to provide those opportunities to them too. And I 538 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: just want to create a bond with them where they 539 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: can experience things together, so they can when they get older, say, hey, 540 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: remember when mom and dad took us here? Yeah, you 541 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That it's true though I think 542 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 1: about it because my mom and dad. UM, one thing 543 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 1: they did with my brother and I, not as much 544 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: of my sister because she was ten years younger at 545 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: the time, but while my brother and I were younger, 546 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: being only three and a half years apart, we travel 547 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: to a different island every summer. Like that was my 548 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: mom's saying, family vacation, vacation, and we still have those 549 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: memories to this day. UM and my parents. One thing 550 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: my mom always said, regardless off we bickered or we argued, 551 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: or she said, one thing I will not do what 552 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm in the grave is being they're rolling around because 553 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: my children don't get along. My brother, my sister, and I, 554 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: like everybody knows, has a very obnoxiously obnoxiously unique, but 555 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: tight relationship, and I love that for us, and that's 556 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: something that we definitely I'm on the same page with 557 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: you in terms of our boys having that. So you 558 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: have to start them from me, absolutely, because already they'll 559 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: be looking for each other and it's so funny because 560 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: they don't even snitch on each other either too. They 561 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: have their moments where they just are like this united front. 562 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: So you're not none of I'm telling each other all 563 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: get in trouble together, all right, That's fine. I respected that. 564 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: A question for you now, the motherhood or the I 565 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: won't say mother because motherhood never ends. Um, now that 566 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: pregnancy is out of the way for you for the 567 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: rest of your life and you never ever ever have 568 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: to think about I have to stop this because I'm 569 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: gonna try to we have another baby again. What are 570 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: your goals you have for yourself just starting from this 571 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: year two? Wow? You know, I'm conflicted. I'm really conflicted because, Um, 572 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: for so long, for so many years, I wanted to be, 573 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, the next Oprah, because he wants to be 574 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: like on everybody's TV screen hosting something or doing something 575 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: or acting. And having my children over the past couple 576 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: of years has really kind of made me feel a 577 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: little bit conflicted in that so much of me wants 578 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: to just be at home with my children, be at 579 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: their disposal. UM, be mom who's home when Jackson walks 580 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: through the door, you know, getting into from school, to 581 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: be here to greet him, to find out how his 582 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: day was, and um, and I realized, who, I don't 583 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: do well with too much time apart from my family either. 584 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: So I can just imagine myself if I were to 585 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: book something and be on set somewhere for three months 586 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: away from my family, how that would affect me. Um. 587 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: But then also to like it was just exactly to 588 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: be is always. And I also think of the fact 589 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: that we always find a way to figure things out. 590 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: And if that was the case and it meant that 591 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: my kids had to be flown out to me every 592 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: weekend or whatever, we would make it happen. Um. So 593 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to finding a way to stop self sabotaging, 594 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: which I think I've done for a long time. UM, 595 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, oh, I'm not going to really start 596 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: this and ten percent because I have to stop to 597 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: potentially get back now now now we you know, I'm 598 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: glad we talked about this because New Year, and let's 599 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about self sabotage. Right. As confident 600 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: and as amazing as you are, you are a bit 601 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: of a self sabot tool because I think sometimes you 602 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: fear what will happen if you try to do something, 603 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: so in turn you say, let me not even try 604 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: because right, and then you'd be like, well, I plan 605 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: on having a baby anyway, to let me not do it. 606 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: Now that that's out the window, you don't have an 607 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: excuse and an excuse, and I think I need an 608 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: excuse anymore. I think it was just a conscious, deliberate 609 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: decision I was making to be like, you know what, 610 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: that could wait because knowing me, I'm gonna have another 611 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: baby and be out front of the two years and 612 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: then have to come back. Um. But also too I realized, 613 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean some parts of the field of television and 614 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: film or whatever, or just hosting. Um, it's a little freak. 615 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: It's not forgiving in that you have to look a 616 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: certain way a certain way like that's just what it is, 617 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: especially if you want to be the best version of 618 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: yourself in that capacity. UM. And then there's something that's 619 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more forgiving. Especially after the pandemic. We 620 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: see that things are being done through zoom and virtually. 621 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: But I feel like now moving forward, anything that I 622 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: choose to do, UM, I want to be able to 623 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: do fully and be able to commit to it and 624 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: not continue to be like, well, I'm always going to 625 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: have time because at this point, I don't feel like 626 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: I have much more time to start something. Um, I 627 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: don't know. They say they what you say. The days 628 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: are long, but the years are short, right, you have 629 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: twenty four hours in those days. That's true. Use them? Yeah, 630 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: that's true, use them. That's true. Well, I think what's 631 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna happen now? Having the four children, of course, and 632 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: then your schedule in my schedule, it's going to force 633 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: us to be a lot more um, intentional with our time. 634 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna force us to be a lot more scheduled, 635 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: and I'll be leaning more on our manager Genra and 636 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: you and us to figure out ways to be able 637 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: to capitalize on the time we have and be more 638 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: purposeful with our time. So making the time counsel. If 639 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: I do have an hour of time where I'm like, Okay, 640 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: this is time that I want to be devoting to 641 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: Cairo today because this is what Kyro needs in that moment. 642 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: I haven't spent someone on one time with Cairo, or 643 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: this is what's needed for our next project. I'm gonna 644 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: sit down and lock myself away for this hour because 645 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: you know that's what I'm going to be looking forward 646 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: to doing now is like kind of regaining the cadem 647 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: You remember in college Mary organized and goal oriented and 648 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: driven and had things all scheduled and laid out. I 649 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: need to get back to that person because that person 650 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: was very productive. Now I just have to do that 651 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: with four children and a husband. So well, I mean, 652 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: you spent the last decade and a year creating life. 653 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: Should be proud of yourself. Applaud yourself as you spent 654 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: ten years, eleven years creating eleven years, actually eleven years 655 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: and two months because you know, we're thinking about a 656 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,919 Speaker 1: starting in a two thousand and two. Um, that's nineteen years, 657 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: almost twenty years. Something about when we got married in 658 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten. You know, eleven years creating life. 659 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: You dedicated a decade to creating life. But you're still young. 660 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: So now you can focus the rest of your life 661 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: on having the career you want while we balance it 662 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: because you're not in here by yourself. And that the 663 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: truth of the matter is that we put ourselves in 664 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: a situation where, um, we can bring our families down 665 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: to help. You know, we don't just necessarily have to 666 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: rely on our village. We're gonna build out here in Atlanta. 667 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: But we can bring our parents down and say head, 668 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: we need help doing this and doing that. We can 669 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: bring family and friends in what we need to help. 670 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna be honest with I'm not stopping right 671 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: when when I think about two, UM, we have UH 672 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: TV show in development that's UM already been green lit 673 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be working on. It's going to be released. 674 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: We got a book deal that our book will be 675 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: out this I think this spring or maybe the beginning 676 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: of summer. UM. I filmed to two movies last year 677 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: that should be out there this year. This year, I'm 678 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: looking forward to show five shows. Oh live shows past. 679 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: We started them shows back in what was that last 680 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: one was at the top and they were such a vibe. Y'all, 681 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: y'all coming back. So I don't I don't plan on 682 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: stopping with all of that happening and everything happening, I 683 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: don't plan on stopping. And what I do plan on 684 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: doing is finding a way to make sure my children 685 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: don't lose site of who we are as parents. You 686 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't want to 687 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: be the guy that just goes out comes back and 688 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: gives money. I want to be the guy that they 689 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: say no. My dad spent a lot of time with 690 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: me while doing all of these things, and my mom 691 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time. So I'm gonna be on you. 692 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna be on each other, each other being accountable 693 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: and and most importantly, I'm gonna be on your ass 694 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: about us continuing to be the best couple we can 695 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: be for each other. That's so important because that's where 696 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: everything starts from. None of this ship works without us 697 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: being on the same page, None of this works without you. 698 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: Are you? So we and we know that, and that 699 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: always has to be on the forefront, Like when we 700 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 1: ever we do our New Year's resolution, like the main 701 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: part is how can I be of service to my wife? 702 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: And hopefully the same thing, how can you be of 703 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: service to me so that we can continue to build 704 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: the way we can. But if we lose to life 705 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: the side of each other, everything else gonna fall apart. 706 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a fact. Do you notice that 707 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: in the mornings I've been asked seem like, how can 708 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: I help to make it a little easier? Better? You have? 709 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: You have? I ain't a lie. You have right, because 710 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: I realized how much that helps you, um, at least 711 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: to prepare for your day or at least so let's 712 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: gather our thoughts because every day we're having those conversations 713 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: like what's happening today? Because our lives is so crazy, 714 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: But I remember, we should have arguments and I should 715 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: tell you like I don't think that you considered me 716 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: when you were planning out your day and what I 717 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: might need or what I might want or what might 718 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: help me get through my day. I don't think you 719 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: considered me. And we haven't had those conversations a lot, 720 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We've really been focused on 721 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: trying to see, wait, how can I maximize my day 722 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: but not lose my spouse in that day, you know, 723 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: or not make make her day heavier ever because I 724 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: wanted to do something else. So I feel like it's 725 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: as long as we continue to do that, we can 726 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: keep growing. Like for sure, I mean, sometimes we missed 727 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: the mark, you know, but that's gonna have life that life. Um, 728 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about you having four boys, bro, like we 729 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: spoke earlier about me feeling like you were giving four 730 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: boys or we were giving four boys because you're such 731 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: a stellar man that you are now going, So how 732 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: do you prepare then for manhood? Now? Like four boys, 733 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: is there anything that stands out as paramount for you 734 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: that you're just like man going into these next couple 735 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: of years. I'm looking to do this with them, or 736 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: instill this in them, or I want to see this, 737 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, come from the boys. One thing I'll say 738 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 1: is that I've I've pretty much been able to watch 739 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: my father mentor the young men and the junior aiming 740 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: at at our church for years growing up. So I 741 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: watched my father right, and I was able to have 742 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: a prototype right. So I can't even take credit for 743 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: the way I am with the boys because I watched 744 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: my grandfather first with my my father and my uncle. 745 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: Then I watched my father with me and my brother, 746 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: but also all the other men he mentor. Then I 747 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: did prototype for a decade where I was training and 748 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: mentoring over five young men in Brooklyn. And I've learned 749 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: so much from other dad's parenting while I was helping them, 750 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So what I'm what I'm 751 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: going to try to do is take bits and pieces 752 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: of what I learned from dudes who I know are 753 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: successful men. Because here's here's the truth. Being an exemplary 754 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: dad doesn't look one way, or being an exemplary man 755 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: doesn't look one way. Right. We tend to just highlight 756 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: maybe the one or two people who we feel like, oh, 757 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,839 Speaker 1: that's the version. But I've seen versions of what that 758 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: looks like my entire life. So it's not an anomaly 759 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: to me. But because of mass media and the way 760 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: social media is now, people tend to get clicks by 761 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: posting negativity. So we see a lot of negativity when 762 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: it comes to especially black men. But I've grown up 763 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: watching a lot of men. I know there's men around 764 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: me or I mean, you just look at some of 765 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: the men we work on a daily basis. Think about 766 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: all of our children's godfathers, but they've got fathers all 767 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: doing different things, different professions. Super successful, Dakota's godfather, Sean 768 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: who is our financial advisor, your god brother, stellar, stellar, 769 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: example of what it means to be of husb been 770 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: in our father and a businessman and stuff. Um, it's 771 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: just amazing to see that, and I I'm just I 772 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: think it's just one of those things where you have 773 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 1: those people around you. We have them around us, and 774 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 1: if we keep them around our children, you know, there's 775 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: so many examples for them to see. Well, that's my plan. 776 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: My plan is to just keep positive, strong men around 777 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: my children so that they can see or have an 778 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: example of what they should aspire to be. But then 779 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: keep positive, strong, empowering women around them as well. They 780 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: can see or aspire to who they should want to 781 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: spend their life with. You see what I'm saying. So 782 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: for me, it's it's not even about cheerating who I 783 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: want them to be. No, of course, it's just giving 784 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: them examples of who they should want to be around 785 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: and who they should want to be like. And as 786 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: they choose what they want to be in their life, 787 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: navigate help them navigate that regardless because I may not 788 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: agree with every thing. And I'm realizing too, from generation 789 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 1: to generation they're gonna do things differently. Right, You and 790 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: I were entrepreneurs. We built social media followings and platforms. 791 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: We went into TV film. Your mom and dad never 792 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: thought that you could make money that way. My mom 793 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: and dad never thought I could make money on social media. 794 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: So in their eyes, if they would have curated my life, 795 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: they would have been telling me no, don't do this. 796 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: Your parents would be like, no, don't do that. And 797 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: I've learned by watching your parents allow us to grow 798 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,439 Speaker 1: and go through our things, is to learn to let 799 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 1: our boys make their decisions and nurture them through the process. 800 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 1: So that's ultimately what I'm gonna do. It gonna be 801 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: more of a watch and nurture. Nurture, this is how 802 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: you do it. And you know I don't. I don't 803 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: think that's gonna work. I think also watch and learn 804 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: because there's been so much our kids have been teaching us, 805 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: you know, so much our kids have been teaching us 806 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 1: about ourselves, about us as individuals, how we parent. Um 807 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: I lean on you a lot because I've never been 808 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: a boy. So there's sometimes where you may pull me 809 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: aside and say, ky, I don't think what you said 810 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: just now were the way said it's going to be 811 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: beneficial to Jackson or to Cairo, because you know, I 812 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: don't think boys receive it that way from their mom. 813 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: And what the last thing I want to do is 814 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: to be that mom that's you know, the boys are 815 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 1: running from, like oh lord, here she goes in. You 816 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: know we're gonna have those moments. But um, I look 817 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: to lean on you a lot because I know that 818 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: you've been a boy, you're now a man. UM. You 819 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: understand what it's like. You understand the little quirks that 820 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: you know boys or who are growing to have UM 821 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: at different phases in their life. So I'm you know, 822 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 1: looking forward to you being able to kind of help 823 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: me mother through these four boys, you know, and all 824 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: the different personalities that come with them, which I'm so 825 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: excited to see what Dakota is going to be like 826 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: and who he's going to be like, UM, because we 827 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: have three different ones that we've learned so far, so 828 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see how we throw a 829 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: fourth personality into the mix. UM. But I'm excited, Bro, 830 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I almost feel like 831 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: this is like the closing of one chapter. UM, still 832 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: the same book, you know, just the closing of a 833 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: chapter and then the start another UM as we raise 834 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:08,439 Speaker 1: these boys together. So absolutely, well, let's take a quick break, UM, 835 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,479 Speaker 1: let's think about those chapters as we come back, because 836 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: we have some listener letters, probably some really good ones 837 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: last one of the season. But like we said before, 838 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: I think we said this a couple of weeks ago. Um, 839 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a huge break. We're not taking 840 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: any more long, dead ass breaks. You are going to 841 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: hear from us consistently from now on out. So be 842 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: taking a break and we'll be right back for some 843 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: more listener letters. Sounds good to me, all right, and 844 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,919 Speaker 1: we are back letters. You want to go first? List time, 845 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: y'all go first, nest time? All right, So Vina Codeine, 846 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: I've been with my child's father since I was thirteen. 847 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: I've been with my child's father since I was seventeen 848 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: and I'm thirty four. Now. How do I get him 849 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: to look at me the way he used to before 850 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: we had our daughter. At first, we couldn't keep on 851 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: hand ends off each other. We used to be together 852 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: all the time, day in and day out. Lately, I 853 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: haven't been feeling as wanted as I used to feel. 854 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: I want another baby, and we talked about it. He 855 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: said he wants on the baby as well. How do 856 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: I get the ball rolling and the pot hot that? Um? Well, 857 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: seventeen so that's double the years. That's that's they've been 858 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: together for seventeen years. Um, So in seventeen years, a 859 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: lot can fall off the bandwagon. Um, you know, and 860 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: it's just it's just one of those things. I think, 861 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: even us being together twenty years, we've had our rough patches. 862 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 1: We are you know, declines and all sorts of things, 863 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: whether it was just declines and intimacy, declines and interests 864 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,919 Speaker 1: depending on where we were in our life. Um, she says, 865 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: how do I get him to look at me the bed? Well, 866 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: I would like to see what you look like, what 867 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 1: you look like at thirty four after being seventeen. No, 868 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm kidding, but seriously I'm not, but seriously said seriously, 869 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: I'm not. Um, what has happened in the past seventeen years? 870 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: What does that look like for you guys? Now you know? Um, 871 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: what do you guys continue to do together to create 872 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: that want or desire? Um? Can I put Can I 873 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 1: put something out here? I'm being dead asked with y'all 874 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: listeners out here? This whole talk that people say, you know, 875 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: accept me as I am. Things change looks fake? No, no no, no, no, no, 876 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: I get that, But do you really put any work 877 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: in to keep yourself up? Mhm? And that's two men 878 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: and women like you can't just expect the person that 879 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: you fell in love with or that person that fell 880 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 1: into love with you to just let yourself go and say, well, 881 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: it's yours, your responsibility now to love me like this. 882 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't give a shit about you enough 883 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: to try to work hard to maintain myself. It's just 884 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: your job. That's unfair. That is the most lazy, selfish 885 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,919 Speaker 1: mindset anybody can have, man or woman. We talked about 886 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 1: this on the last podcast. Right, it's just important for 887 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: a man to keep himself up as a woman, right, 888 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: But what we don't talk about is how important it 889 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: is to do it for yourself one so that you 890 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: can feel good enough to even want to be intimate 891 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: with someone. Because here's another thing, right, we had I 892 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 1: think we had a friend, I'm not remember exactly which 893 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: friend it was, but said that he didn't feel like 894 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: initiating sex because he didn't feel comfortable being naked in 895 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: front of his work. He said he didn't feel the same. 896 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: So then she was kind of like, well, what do 897 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: you mean? What you mean? And I'm just like, bro, 898 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: you're know corny, that is that you let yourself go. 899 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: So now you're neglecting your wife because you don't feel comfortable. 900 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,719 Speaker 1: But you're also not putting any work to get back, 901 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 1: so it's complaining but not doing anything about the complaint. 902 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And it's the same thing 903 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: with women. Do it. You know, you let yourself go 904 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: and now you don't feel comfortable, but you want your 905 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: husband to be on you, but you're not even putting 906 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: any work. So you just want all the work to 907 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: be on him or her to make you feel better, 908 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: but you're a willing to put any work on yourself. 909 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: Like I really want to put this out there for 910 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,879 Speaker 1: two that if you want your significant other to look 911 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: at you the way that you used to look, or say, 912 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: I want them too we first met, how about you 913 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 1: try looking like how you first met, even if it's 914 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: seventeen years. I know for a fact that I don't 915 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,320 Speaker 1: look the same way I look when I was eighteen, 916 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,880 Speaker 1: And I mean, all right, but she grew into yourself 917 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 1: very nicely. I appreciate that. But I put working, I 918 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,479 Speaker 1: go on the gym, and I'd be in there looking 919 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 1: at myself and eating right and make it because I'm 920 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 1: like when I get out the shower, I want to 921 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: be glistening and I want kay to be like damn, 922 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: that's my husband. I don't just say funk this. You 923 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I look the way I look. 924 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, she got accepted. I think that that's selfish 925 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: and lazy, right, you know. And I'm not saying that's 926 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 1: her because we don't know. I don't know what she's got, right, 927 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: And then she said, look at me the same way. 928 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: It could be a physical thing, or it could just 929 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: be a not connected thing, right if it's not fit. 930 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: If it's not physical, say physical is still fine? Is 931 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: there disconnect there? Why is there disconnect? What happens to 932 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: cause it? Are you guys on the same page about 933 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: something like? There can also be a non physical side 934 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: to this thing too, you know, so I think you 935 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: should explore what those what those disconnects are. Is it 936 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: something that's just like an intimacy thing where you guys 937 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 1: are just not vibing and not mentally in the same space, um, 938 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: not emotionally in the same space. Are there other outside 939 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: factors that are contributing to that? Has he been working 940 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: a lot over the past couple of years and he's 941 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: just tired or he just needs to break to you, 942 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: to need a break to kind of a little words 943 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 1: working people what it is. People ask people ask us 944 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: all the time, like how do y'all do this? And 945 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: then when we say things, you know what they say, 946 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: I ain't trying to do all that. Then you're not 947 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: trying to rekindle your intimacy. Seriously, you're not trying to 948 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: be in a relationship like that. That seems to be 949 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 1: a recurring theme with couples. You know what I'm saying, 950 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: why I don't want to get married because I ain't 951 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: trying to do all this and that So okay, So 952 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: you just want someone to just accept you without you 953 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: putting no work. There is nothing in life that you're 954 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: going to gain that you want without putting work, nothing 955 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 1: worth having at least, And that's that's physically, mentally, emotionally 956 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 1: of spiritualy. Do you have to work for yourself about 957 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: yourself in all of those aspects to continue to build 958 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,959 Speaker 1: intimacy like that? That is important and it's a never 959 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 1: ending journey and it doesn't stop. There should be no 960 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: point in your marriage where you stop doing anything physically, mentally, 961 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: and emotionally and spiritually with your partner to help keep 962 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: intimacy up right. And if that's something that you don't 963 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: want to subscribe to then stay single boom. Just know 964 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: that you're gonna be single and that's what it is, 965 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: and don't put nobody else through that misery boom and 966 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: the understand that you can stay single like that if 967 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: you want to be you know that selfish, which is fine, 968 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: but understand people will want you in that moment and 969 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: then when they get over that, they're gonna move on. 970 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: But they don't say people ain't ship. Is that if 971 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: you desire to be in a relationship, it takes work 972 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: to maintain and being a relationship with someone that's it. Period, period, 973 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,720 Speaker 1: all right, and last one for the day. I need advice. 974 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,439 Speaker 1: My wife and I have been married for four years 975 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: now but been together for eight years total. To me, 976 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: there seems to be a disconnecting the relationship because I'm 977 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: military and the Army is always sending me somewhere at 978 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: the worst times. For example, we could be starting a 979 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 1: business and the next month I have to uproot and leave, 980 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 1: and I know that's affecting her. In my mind, I don't. 981 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm doing the right thing and keeping my word that 982 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 1: I will always provide and that she and the kids 983 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: will never want for anything. I just got back from 984 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: Mexico and it was away from the family for over 985 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,439 Speaker 1: a year due to military orders. I bought my wife 986 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,919 Speaker 1: a new house. It has the acre she's always asked for. 987 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: We're taking family trips to places we've never been. But 988 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: deep down I know it's not enough before I lose 989 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: the one I love most. What can I do to 990 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: make her feel appreciated? What can she do to understand 991 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: that I'm not being selfish? When Uncle Sam says, pack up, 992 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: that's what it is. More importantly, how can I balance 993 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: my military life and my family life? And the words 994 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: of Kevin Heart help me, help me. This is the forever, 995 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: the never ending balance of being a man right Your 996 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 1: Your wife says she wants all of these things right, 997 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: so you bust your ads to provide all of these things. 998 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 1: But those things take time away from her wanting we 999 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: want her, wanting you to be there. You know, you 1000 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: and I had this conversation where I was I think 1001 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: it was the last couple of weeks I was away 1002 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: because you know we I was filming and working on 1003 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 1: a different TV show, and you just like sad. It 1004 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 1: was a madag. I just want you home, And I said, 1005 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: you know, in your mind, you want me to give 1006 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,680 Speaker 1: you all of these things and be home to enjoy 1007 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 1: the things with you. And you were like yes, and 1008 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: I was just like that, that's just not how it works. 1009 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: There's a there's a balance, and there's a lot of 1010 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 1: communication that needs to be involved with that. But there's 1011 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: also ways to especially with technology now with FaceTime. I 1012 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 1: know we gets annoying, but face timing has helped us 1013 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: in our distance. When I'm not here, I can face 1014 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: some you and the boys every day. Yeah, but but 1015 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 1: also understanding that in order to get things in life, 1016 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: you have to sacrifice certain things for a certain amount 1017 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: of time and tokens like think about it. You were 1018 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: filming the other day and I was home, mad, pregnant, 1019 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: and I just see a delivery show up and it's 1020 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: just like a little flower of the thing of flowers, 1021 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,399 Speaker 1: and it says, it's just because it's Tuesday and I'm 1022 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: thinking of you. And it's little things like that to 1023 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 1: make you smile. You know, it doesn't always have to 1024 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: be a gift or something that you're spending money on, 1025 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: but just little moments to let the other know that 1026 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: you're thinking about them, I think is huge. And also 1027 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: just understanding. Like if you're a wife and you marry 1028 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,759 Speaker 1: an army guy, you knew what you signed up for. 1029 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,320 Speaker 1: Complaining after knowing what you signed signed up for seems 1030 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,160 Speaker 1: to be a little bit still getting the things that 1031 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: you've been at. You know what I'm saying. That seems 1032 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: a little bit selfish, But I know what it's like 1033 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 1: as a woman when you just miss your man and 1034 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: you're absolutely and you want him to be able to 1035 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: enjoy all the acres with you every day and he 1036 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: wants to be there. I trust me he wants to 1037 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: be there. I mean if if he's as good as 1038 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: she's as he's saying he is and getting all the 1039 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: things he wants, he even wants to be able to 1040 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: provide her with the time. But it's impossible to give 1041 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: her the things and the time because I remember I 1042 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: made a post a couple of years back that I 1043 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: felt guilty, um when I was away and you and 1044 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 1: the kids were doing things together. Um My boy Solving, 1045 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,840 Speaker 1: who's been on on the podcast Slick, He said he 1046 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: was pissed the other day because um Rema took the 1047 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: kids to the zoo and he was like, these are 1048 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: the fucking message I get when I'm aware you're just 1049 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 1: doing things and spending times having moments, and I gotta 1050 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: get videos when I'm on set filming and I think about, 1051 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: you're not coming to Disney Road for Cairo's birthday, prime example. 1052 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: What I'm saying, we had to literally rush you out 1053 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: of the restaurant, cut the cake early just because you 1054 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,879 Speaker 1: had a flight to catch to be back to film. 1055 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 1: And I was in Disney World with the boys, pregnant, 1056 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: with my parents for the day fifth birthday. You don't 1057 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,240 Speaker 1: think I wanted to be there for that exactly, but 1058 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: you did the absolute best you could do there to 1059 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,239 Speaker 1: the very last minute, even if it meant lack of 1060 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: sleep and all that you know, and also understanding that 1061 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: this moment in time won't be the rest of your life. 1062 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 1: At some point's going to retire from the military, and 1063 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: it's for both of them to understand that, let me 1064 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 1: put these hours in time in now so that there 1065 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: come a point where I can do what I want 1066 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 1: to do. And that's what's my thought processes, is do 1067 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: the things that I have to do now so that 1068 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,280 Speaker 1: I can do what I want to do later. Sounds 1069 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 1: good to me, all right, y'all continue to write in 1070 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: for listening letters, especially going into the next season. We 1071 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: didn't do a listener letter episode this season because we 1072 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: had so much to talk about when it came to 1073 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,520 Speaker 1: the baby and the pregnancy and everything after that. UM, 1074 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: so keep writing in and if you want to be 1075 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: featured as one of our listener letters, be sure to 1076 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: email us at dead Advice at gmail dot com. That's 1077 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: D E A D A S S A d V 1078 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 1: I C E at gmail dot com. All right, my 1079 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 1: moment of truth is to make sure you'll hold me 1080 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: accountable and I'll hand no more babies. But no, um, seriously, 1081 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: I am just honestly, like I said, looking forward to 1082 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,240 Speaker 1: this next portion of our life where we're just working 1083 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: on the best version of ourselves, being the best version 1084 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: of ourselves so we can be the best version of 1085 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: ourselves for each other and then of course for our 1086 00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: four sons. That's what I want to do moving forward 1087 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: New Year, no resolutions or anything, just planning, UM, planning 1088 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: to make active movements, which is something we've always done. 1089 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: It's always worked for us over the past. This will 1090 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 1: be twenty years in October that we have been together. 1091 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: Twenty years UM October three two So UM so yeah, 1092 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm just I just want us to continue because this 1093 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: first twenty years has been quite the ride, and I'm 1094 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:39,840 Speaker 1: looking forward to twenty times spot more. Well, my moment 1095 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: of truth is that I'm a kingmaker, You're a king baker. Clearly, 1096 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: this is what God in the universe had for us. 1097 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited to get ready to to raise these boys 1098 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: and create a beautiful life with you. And that starts 1099 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year two for the rest of 1100 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 1: our lives. And I'm with it. And I also want 1101 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 1: to take this time to wish nothing but prosperity and 1102 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 1: good things all of our listeners of Dead as Podcasts. 1103 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 1: Y'all have been writing with us for six seasons are 1104 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:20,080 Speaker 1: three years I believe three years six having fun. Yeah, 1105 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: y'all funk with us heavy. 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