1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. There are times I do give out 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: phone quotes. It's not often, but you know, I'm trying 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: to help somebody and be it's just yeah, it's just 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: kind of a practical question. Tell me how you know? 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: How much is it to do this engine? Give me 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: a ballpark, the car Doctor. From what you're telling me, 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna beat around the bush. 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: From what you're telling me, Ray it it sounds like 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: you were overcharged something. Something doesn't make sense. Welcome to 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If you're a 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: and call in the garage doors are open, but I 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: am here to take your calls. At eight five and 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: now he running. Hey, it's time to start your engines 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: along and welcome run and Naming the car Doctor here 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: at five five zero zero zero. Here here to take 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: your calls and solve your problems, whatever they might be. 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: As uh we motor run down the road. I'm in 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: a company this hour. By Lucy the Wonder Dog. Let me. 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: Look down here. She's in studio with me today. She's 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: sleeping on the floor. So obviously I've had my impact 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: on the audience already. And Mikey's on the other side 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: of the glass with Big Tom Ray, executive producer, and 26 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: they're both waiting for your calls at eight five five 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: five six zero nine zero zero. Give us a call 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: because we're sleeping too. Well you could be um, uh 29 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: are you done now? Okay? Good? So anything else Tomm 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: you want to say and include by the way, I 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: loved your step and Mississippi were coming. Um. I loved 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: your comment in the in the in the middle of 33 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: the hour. You know, we just came in from our 34 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: second hour about the connected car. Uh. You know, we 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: were talking about connected cars in the last hour and 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: how the car companies are gathering data and and Tom 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: had an answer for him. I'm not telling him nothing. Well, yeah, exactly. 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean all three of our cars have the ability 39 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: to do that through the bluetooth on the cell phone 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: to send data to Ford. It's like, Hey, I I 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: go to around an Anian. Why do I need to 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: have Ford tell me when I need something? Well, you know, 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, and that's part of it, Tom, But I 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: think the bigger factor is that we're so bombarded by information. 45 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: I can't pick up my cell phone anymore without you know, 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: let me see. Facebook sends me a notice. Google sends 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: me a notice, Fox News sends me a notice. Uh, 48 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, Twitter sends me a notice. Instagram sends me 49 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: a notice. I get notice of my emails. I just 50 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: want to make a phone call. Yeah, yeah, exactly, don't 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: you love it? And there's no way to turn any 52 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: of that off. And you can't really make the phone 53 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: call because the telemarketers calling you now right, So I 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: can't use the device that I'm paying for, And I'm 55 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: just I'm at that point where I can imagine how 56 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: this is going to intrude on the automobile. I really 57 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: envisioned the day where and I think it's here already 58 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: that I'm waiting for the repair order to come in 59 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: to ticket on my on my on my rack that 60 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: says um diagnosed heated cup holder not working, you know, 61 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: because we're just so involved, or you know, I don't 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: get my Google updates anymore, or you know the amount 63 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: of it's a car, it's got to go from A 64 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: to B and you know when the kids, when the 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: kids were when the kids were young, when we were 66 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: you know, the immediate family was in the house. We 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: went on vacation every year. And I'm sorry Steve when 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: one sexually we get Steve back, I'm sorry. Um. So 69 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: we go on vacation every here, and we go up 70 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: to Cape Cod and we go up to the far 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: end of Cape Cod, right, we go out to Truro 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: and and and Easter them and you know, way out 73 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: in the end of the Cape and it's it's you know, 74 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: it's it's remote. There's not a lot of anything out there, 75 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, except people in cars. And and I often 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: I remember the one night my oldest when she was 77 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: very young, was was very sick. She had a cold 78 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: or she had a fever of some kind. And this 79 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: is my gosh, this is earty years ago, and I 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: had to go to find the nearest drug store. The 81 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: nearest drug store was in Provincetown. It was a good 82 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: hour's ride away. And you're driving through the back roads 83 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: of Cape Cod in the dark. There's no street lights 84 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: on Cape Cod. I don't know if you know, it's 85 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: it's they pull on the sidewalks after six thirty, Okay, 86 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: and you're you're driving through the back roads of Cape 87 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: cod just you know, where's the drug store and you 88 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: know down in Provincetown and all the way at the end, 89 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: and you know, and I think about that when I 90 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: think about all this connected car nonsense, because you know, 91 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: how will they do that? How will they reach that 92 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: connected car in the remote part of the country. I 93 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: was up there two months ago on vacation, a month 94 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: ago on vacation, and I couldn't make sense of it. 95 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: But my cell phone kept going dead. I burned through 96 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: a battery in in three quarters of a day, where 97 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: normally I'd get two days out of a battery. And 98 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: I realized I turned off the location device so that 99 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: my cell phone couldn't find me, and that lengthened the 100 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: life of the battery. And I said, what it is. 101 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: As I'm driving around in the car, I'm changing positions 102 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: so fast the phone can't find the tower, so it's 103 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: constantly searching for tower connection to connect the phone. So Google, 104 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: Fox News, Spotify, Instagram, Twitter, my mail and everything else 105 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: can tell me where I am and what traffic jam 106 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in the car and all the other nonsense. 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: So in order to get my phone to do what 108 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I now have to turn off 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: the locator, which is danger is because God forbid somebody 110 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: how to find me in an accident. So the whole 111 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: thing is ludicrous. I think it should be a and 112 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: and and trust me, trust me when I tell you 113 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: cars do the same thing. And at the bottom of 114 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: this the criminal at the bottom of the barrel. It's 115 00:05:54,760 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: all about money. It's it's advertising and bringing vendors or 116 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: customers to bear to, you know, to say, hey, I 117 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: can give Joe Smith Chevrolet, you know, fifty new customers 118 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: a day by tying it into their car, through their car, 119 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: through their phone. So connected cars are, there's gonna be 120 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: an invasion of privacy conversation. And I think it's already 121 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: happening from some of what people are telling me. And 122 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: I think it's only gonna get bigger in time. So 123 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: but um, yeah, to be continued. Steve in Mississippi. Thanks 124 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: for putting up with me there, Steve, I appreciate it. 125 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: How can I help you today, sir? Yes, Hey, I 126 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: got a two thousand three Honda CRV. It's two twelve 127 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it just broken into condition. Yeah, I 128 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: got a Autel Mexican on it right now with five data, 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: and uh it keeps popping up a five or five code. 130 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: I've had a couple of mechanics. I've tried to fix it. 131 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: I've changed the idle air control valves. The only thing 132 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,239 Speaker 1: I haven't changed. There's a couple of things, the throttle body, 133 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: which one of the shops recommended. I bought a China 134 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: aftermarket one and put that on. And right now the 135 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: short term, uh fuel tourum, it's like one point zero 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: one in the limits on my hotel is one one 137 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: zero to one, and so that's telling me I have 138 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: a what I believe is some type of vacuum week 139 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: but I can't find it. And I was just wondering 140 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: what yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute now, um, 141 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: you're looking at fuel trim and it's what Stevie h 142 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: on this on the I'll tell tellmeter. It's a mexicom. 143 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: It goes zero to one and minds of one point 144 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: zero one. Okay, So are you reading your make model? 145 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Oh you know what? You know what you're looking at. 146 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: You're looking at the air fuel ratio reading, aren't you? Uh? 147 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: It says air fuel f b ST fuel trim. So 148 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: is that what I'm looking at? You're you're looking at air. 149 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: I think you're looking at air fuel feedback sensor fuel 150 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: trim you're looking you're looking at Yeah, you're looking at 151 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,559 Speaker 1: the signal being generated by the sensor which will drive 152 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: the PCM to modify fuel trim. So you got it 153 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: right in front of can you find fuel triam? Is 154 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: there something there that says s f T s f 155 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: T short term I'm sorry, s t F short term 156 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: fuel trim or s T f T. Is there something 157 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: there that specifically just says fuel trim by itself and 158 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: then you know there should be one long term fuel 159 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: trim and short term fuel trim? Yeah, I don't know how. Okay, 160 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: so do this? Are you into that? Are you in 161 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: that tool? Is that tool your make model or O 162 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: B D two specific? It's it does have your make 163 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: and model? Okay, what are you? What are you in? Right? You? 164 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: Are you looking at it now using Honda specific software? 165 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: You're you're you into it? So okay, so get out 166 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: of that. Here's have you have you used this tool 167 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: for Stevie? I've used it a little bit. You know, 168 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't have that much use for it, all right. 169 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: So here's here's the problem, all right, and God bless 170 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: you for trying. All right, brother, So you're you're, you're listen, man, 171 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: it takes guts to do this, right. Um, you're you're 172 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: you're trying to fix something broken with a tool you're 173 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: not familiar with, using a system you haven't had experience on. 174 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: All right. So so let's make this simple. O b 175 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: D two go into it, you know, turn the tool off, 176 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: reboot it. There should be a section there where you 177 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: can go in under O b D two protocol, all right. 178 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: O b D two is the standardized a mission control 179 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: testing that the government mandated as part of the Clean 180 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: Air Act back in all right that it said all 181 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: vehicles manufactured and up are gonna have O b D 182 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: two diagnostics. Everything is standard. So when when you plug 183 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: into any O b D two port, you go into 184 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: O b D to data every car from a Mercedes 185 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: to a Nissan, to a Chevrolet to a Honda, anything 186 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: sold in the United States, a Porsche, it's all gonna 187 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: look the same. And you know, vehicle manufacturers will get different. 188 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: Chrysler uses a different expression for fuel trim than GM, 189 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: than Ford, and so on and so forth. Use O 190 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: B D two. Go find fuel trim. See where the 191 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: fuel trim is all right, and then and then we 192 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: can talk, And then we can talk next week. If 193 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: you find that the next you got forty six minutes 194 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: this hour, you can go. I'll be back now. Before 195 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: I let you go a P zero five oh five. 196 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: And before you get out of here, make model on this. 197 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: Go into special functions. See if that vehicle has an 198 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: idle relearn. See if there is a throttle angle reset 199 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: and any type of do they reference any sort of 200 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: throttle relearn? It was oh three oh four oh five 201 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: when Honda first started doing this. Is this is drive 202 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: Is this drive by wire? Does this have a cable? 203 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: It has a cable, so it won't have relearned that 204 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have relearned. The drive by wires had relearned. 205 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: All right, Well, they're actually were procedures there for relearn, 206 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: but um not throttle people have talking people I talked 207 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: to say that that basically just relearn by driving it, right, right, 208 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: I think maybe I should try that. Well you could. 209 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it will matter because it has a cable. 210 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: My experience has been if it has a cable relearns 211 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: don't matter. It only matters on the drive by wire cars. 212 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: All right, Um, do this look at fuel trim is it? 213 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: Is it out of range? Look at idle air control counts. 214 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: It will be listed as I A C. If if 215 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: I A C is at zero in the vehicle, is 216 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: it idle? Then yes, I think you have a vacuum 217 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: leak somewhere. All right, you know that's that's number one, 218 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: number two, and then last and I'll I'll take a 219 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: question one second and then last, Um, does the idle 220 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: air control valve have coolant around it? Is it a 221 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: type that's heated by cooling it? Does? It? Does? Okay? 222 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: And is it hot? Is it hot on both sides? 223 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: Is it warm on both sides? Yeah? I'm pretty sure 224 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: it is okay because those those hoses get clogged over 225 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: time and and they won't flow cool and then affects 226 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: idle air control operation. Go ahead, you have a question. Yeah. 227 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: My question to you was, Um, what do you think 228 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: about this valve assembly rotor? Are you familiar with that? 229 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: If you pull the picture up or Uh, it's it's 230 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: a big thing that rotates and let's the air in 231 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: and out? Is there any chance I could be getting 232 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: carboned up or anything and causing some of his problems 233 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: or well I thought that's what I thought. That's what 234 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: you changed. I'll tell you what Steven did not change. Steven, 235 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: st stay sit right where you are. Give me one second, 236 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: let me pull over, take the pause. I don't want 237 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: to cut this short. Stay where you are. I'll come 238 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: right back to you. Stephen, Mississippi, run and Nat in 239 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor, don't go anywhere. We're back right after this. 240 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: When you get keep Ron's number hand eight five five 241 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: five zero nine zero zero for when you really need 242 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: advice on your car. Here's robb. Hey, Stevie is still there, Stephen, Mississippi. Yeah, oh, 243 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: three hands Sirov. Thanks, but I've appreciate your waiting with us. Um, 244 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: you know I didn't ask you. The most basic question 245 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: is the idle speed high on this car? Well, no, 246 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: it's like, uh, it's like RPMs right now with the 247 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: ACAS running. Okay, that's that's almost on the fudge factor 248 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: of high. Just so you know, they they get very particular, 249 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: all right. As a matter of fact, the next generation 250 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: with drive by wire, when there's no throttle cable, we'll 251 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: set this five oh five code on the difference of 252 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: fifty rpm. So they get they get really fussy. Uh. 253 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: One thing before we before we go on, I just 254 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: want to mention it. Have you looked at the throttle 255 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: stop screw on the side of the throttle body? No? 256 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Not really, so just look at the throttle stop screw. 257 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: Is there any is there a gap between the end 258 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: of the screw and the tang of the plate? Do 259 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: you ever work on a car with the carburetor Stevie? Yeah? Okay, 260 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: so you know what I mean. You you kind of 261 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: sound like you know, you know what I'm talking about 262 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: with the base idal screw, right, Yeah, yeah, all right, 263 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: it's all the way back. To be honest with you, 264 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: what's all? What's all the way? Um? I could put 265 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: a Chinese um throttle body because of the cost and 266 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: UM thinking it was that was the problem. Now, I say, 267 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: if the candic told me to get a Honda, which 268 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: is a thousand dollars, do you think that could be 269 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: my problem? Or does I'm just starting throwing parts at it. Yeah, 270 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: we're start to throw parts at I'd rather diagnose it. 271 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I'd rather put the I'd rather put the original one 272 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: back on. And yeah, and and diagnosed it. I'm a 273 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a diagnosed guy. So you know, I want 274 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: to know is the base side screw? Well? Here, do this, 275 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: put it, put it back together with the original Honda 276 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: piece and take the air and take boot off. This 277 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: isn't a mass airflow car. Right, there's a map car. Yes, 278 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: there's a map car. The map centers sometimes because it 279 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: was so cheap, said well maybe it could be doing it. 280 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: So let's put it all back to original. Okay. And 281 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: so do you know what an idol are control valve is? Yeah? 282 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: I know. It's a's adjustive amount of airflow in for idols. Right, 283 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: It's it's it's a bypass around the throttle plate. They're 284 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: just they're they're just you know, it's sort of like 285 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: if your wife said, hey, open the front door, it's 286 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: hot in here, and you open the front door. You're 287 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: you're letting the air bypass the windows and come in 288 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: the front door. Same idea. So, with the with the 289 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: engine running at idle warmed up, okay, you should be 290 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: able to take your finger or something and block off 291 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: the idle port. All right, And I've done that before 292 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: and and it slows down, does it slow down, does 293 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: it stall? Um? I've also taken it where they taken 294 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: a piece of cardboard and put it up and it 295 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: stalls right away. Okay, so maybe you're not getting a 296 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: good seal when you you know, here's here's why mechanics 297 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: where rubber gloves, rubber gloves and you put your index 298 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: finger on that port where that every thing will suck 299 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: right in and you know you've got a good seal. 300 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: So you could try that now if it does install, 301 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, with with with a good seal there, all right, 302 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: even though you said do with cardboard, just just do 303 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: it again, do it again with you know the same parts. 304 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Let's go back and be scientific step one, step two. 305 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: You know, either we've got a vacuum leak or we 306 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: could have a bad PCV valve al right, or did 307 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: somebody change the PCV valve? Is this PCV valu? Okay? 308 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: How do I know you were gonna do that? Stevie. 309 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: You gotta stop changing, you gotta stop changing things. We 310 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: got think no, I know, but at this point I'm 311 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: so frustrated. It's been nine months working on it and 312 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: get back from a couple of car shops. You know, yeah, understand, Um, 313 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: drive to New Jersey. Um, yeah, you know, listen, I've 314 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: I've had my battles over the years. It's it's there's 315 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: always a reason why a car runs, why a car 316 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: runs wrong. There really is, and uh, you know, I 317 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: want to get down to the root cause of it. 318 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: And it's and you feel so silly because when you 319 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: find out. I remember, we had a Chrysler. God, it's 320 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: got to be twenty five years ago. You always forget 321 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: the hard ones, right, We had a Christler twenty five 322 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: years ago. It would start stall when it was called 323 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: and then were normal the rest of the day, and 324 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: it had to go through a four to six hour 325 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: cool down before it would act up again. And what 326 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: it turned out to be was and we talked to everybody, 327 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: we diagnosed, We threw everything we had at this car. 328 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting and I thought about it. I said, 329 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: it's so basic. What if I opened the throttle plate 330 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more? And I did one morning. I didn't. 331 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: I just touched my foot to the pedal and the 332 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: car idled. Every time I went out, I looked at 333 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: the throttle stop screw. One of the three shops before 334 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: us had backed off. The throttle stop screw and never 335 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: reset it properly. I tweaked it up just to touch. 336 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: The car ran perfect the rest of its life, so 337 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: there's always a bottom line answer. Take a look at 338 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: the FOT will stop screw Stevie, Take a look at 339 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: if you if you close off the i AK, Take 340 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: a look at the coolant flow to the IAQ valve um. 341 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: Try and read what you can about the intake air 342 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: bypass that's also in there too. That feeds are the injectors, 343 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: and then call me back next week and we can 344 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: talk about it. I'm not an any in the Car Doctor. 345 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: We're back right after this welcome back. We're on any 346 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor here at five zero nine zero 347 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: should point out that is the car Doctor seven number. 348 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: If you are new to the Car Doctor family. Thanks 349 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,719 Speaker 1: for tuning in. And I know we've got a list 350 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: of affiliates this week. Tom is gonna make some serious 351 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: welcomes next week as we can't keep up with the 352 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: growing demand. I think we picked up fourteen or fifteen 353 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: or something. See that start with the wrench for Halloween 354 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: costume really looks good. You know, it's uh so um 355 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: that's you know, and it's funny I'll tell you a 356 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: quick story. Um, Sam in Illinois. Let me do Sam 357 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: in Illinois and I'll tell you the quick It's a 358 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: funny story about me and a state trooper. Um this week. 359 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: That's kind of boy. Um, Sam Illinois. Yes, sir eighty 360 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: nine to m R. Two, How can I help? Yes, 361 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. Um. The problem I'm having 362 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: this car does not get driven. It's it's my uh 363 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: Sunday car. It's what it just hadn't got driven yet. 364 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean i've been I've had it for a while, 365 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: and I mean I took it off and saying for 366 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: my place and everything about a year because I got 367 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: other cars. So um, but I'm trying to find a buyer. 368 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: But I still can't find anybody. But what what's And 369 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: I run it every month no matter what run it 370 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: meaning I started, I don't drive it. Um, I'm having 371 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: a problem. There's three problems. One is at RPMs now 372 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: that the idol is fluctuating, that's one problem. The second 373 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: problem is that RPMs the check engine light pops on 374 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: and A had five thousand it goes off and that's 375 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: two right. The third one, I think that's it. Yeah, 376 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: that that's that's pretty much the third one. The third 377 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: one is you really want to keep the car, but 378 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: your wife won't let you. I can't drive this thing 379 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: in the winter. That's my problem. You know, you got 380 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: you gotta move to a warm state. You gotta move 381 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: where the climate isn't so right problems. Listen, there's nothing 382 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: like having a hot rod. Danny, my mechanic, and his 383 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: long term girlfriend of six years recently took a pause, right, 384 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: and the poor guy is like all terminally, you know, 385 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: he's just not he's not thrilled with life lately. So 386 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: I took the hot rod to work about two weeks ago. 387 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: Uh and uh, I said, listen, I said, the oil 388 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: needs to be changed on the hot rod and rotate 389 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: the tires for me. Would you kid any road? Says 390 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: the tire chans you, and um, it's customary in the shop. 391 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: You know, you work on the car, you drive the 392 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: car afterwards. So he looks at me because he knows 393 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: what's coming, you know, like, oh my god, Ron's gonna 394 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: let me drive nobody. Ron doesn't let anybody drive the 395 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: hot rod, right. So I threw him the kids, and 396 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: I said, here, don't kill yourself, right, you had to 397 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: hear him going around the block. He was so petrified 398 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: to death, open headers, black fifty five Chevy making all 399 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: kinds of He pulls back into the He pulled back 400 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: into the shop about three minutes later, grinning ear to ear, 401 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: and I said to him, Uh, I said, Uh, how's 402 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: your ex girlfriend doing? He goes, who see? And I said, 403 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, it just it just it clears your head 404 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: right out. You know who? You know? It's it's there's 405 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: nothing like a hot rod. It's just so you gotta 406 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: drive the m R. Two. Baby, It's just it's cool. Right, 407 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: they were, and they were a cool car. They were 408 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: very ahead of their time, they really were. I mean, 409 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm six foot tall and I can fit comfortably and 410 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: just go across country very easily and smooth. I mean 411 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: it's very cool. So everybody needs a hot rod. I've 412 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: come to that conclusion. The country would be a better 413 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: place if more kids were working on big Block Chavell's 414 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: in the corner parking lot of Dairy Queen on Friday 415 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: night than uh, the current crop of gang bangers and 416 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: everything else we've got going on. So you sell you 417 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: the best part of this car. It's automatic okay, well yeah, yeah, 418 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: hey listen, it's a smooth car, and you know, just 419 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: it's crazy. Some of the fast some of the fastest 420 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: hot rods are automatics. Trust me, you can't. Somebody taught 421 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: me a long time ago. You can't out shift in automatics. 422 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: So what's wrong with this car? Well, so the thing 423 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: I would want to know is if you if you 424 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: have the ability to pull codes on this you know what, 425 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: what what fault code is there? And I'm gonna take 426 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: a bet and go out on a limb, and I 427 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: think that there's gonna be a code six in this 428 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: car because what you're just what you're describing to me 429 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: are the classic symptoms of what these cars went through 430 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: with distributor issues and a lot of you tell me 431 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me you put a distributor in it, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 432 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: after market or no um right, And that's and that's 433 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: part of the problem. There was there's two signals involved here. 434 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: There's a signal out of the igniter all right, that 435 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: goes to the p CM that tells it, hey, here's 436 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: what I'm at. And then there's a signal from the 437 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: distributor to the e C. M. So you know, we 438 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: have a signal from we have a signal from module 439 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: and a signal from the distributor, and the e c 440 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: M compares those and says, is everybody on board? And 441 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: is everybody telling me the truth? And then it does 442 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: what it wants to do with timing appropriately. So there's 443 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: they actually monitor in two places. Can you imagine this? 444 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: Look at look at how our k this is right? 445 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: You know, this is today today. There's a processor that 446 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: does this, you know, a bazillion times the amount of 447 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: time it took me to explain it to you. So 448 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: the bigger problem with this, all right, ignitiors were bad 449 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: on these cars. I remember ignitors failing all the time. 450 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: Every time we scope it, we'll see a bed signal 451 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: out of the ignitor. But there was also issues out 452 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: of the wiring harness between the e c M and 453 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: the distributor. They were oil soaked, they got dry, they 454 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: got brittle, they cracked they you know, and a lot 455 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: of distributors got replaced for bad wiring harnesses. So step one, 456 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: well step two. Step two is you gotta scan it 457 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: for codes. Step one is you go home tonight, you 458 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: tell your wife we're moving to Florida. And when she says, why, 459 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: you say, because I want to drive my m R 460 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: two And she's when she says, just when she says, 461 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: just drive it. Just build another garage and buy another car. 462 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 1: You got her brother, It'll be great, all right. And 463 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: then if that doesn't work, so he stepped to get 464 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: the codes and then start if it is a Code 465 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: six distributor and stuff, you can start looking at all 466 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: this nonsense. But think about the wiring harness between Yeah, 467 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: the wiring harns. It's probably oil soaked by now and 468 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: brittle and brittle as hell. All right, all right, good 469 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: luck to You're very welcome, Kidd'll take good care. Um, Yeah, 470 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: there's nothing I'm telling you. Danny. Danny was so normal 471 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: the rest of the week. He was just he just 472 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, grinning ear to ear, and he said, and 473 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: he was like this. He comes over, he goes, smell 474 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: my T shirt. I go, why, he goes, Oh, it 475 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: smells like exhaust. Isn't that great? You know, it's like 476 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: an aphrodisiac. It's not to me, but I mean to 477 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, to a car guy, it's like, oh, you know, 478 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: I smell like a car now, or you know, oh, 479 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: my god, the way it was. How did I survive? Um? Anyway? 480 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero zero zero. The car Doctor's 481 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: cruising back right after this. Welcome back. Want to name 482 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: the car doctor? Right? Your services? It over to Frank 483 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: in New Mexico. Frank, how's things out in New Mexico? 484 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: Way today? I got big ring yesterday point seven five inches, 485 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: which is a lot for us. Yeah, it sounds like 486 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: a lot for you. But we're drying out, you know, 487 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. I obtained this seven eight 488 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: propine and Richmond tool, and I've got my little brake 489 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: lanes stuck in there, you know, with my peans down 490 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: to the opening of a to paper clip wires pin 491 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: in the shape of the eye. And as far as 492 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: using it, I'm when should I turn that mean propin? 493 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: Valve all the way on a little bit on? Know 494 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: what I do is so you know, if i'm if 495 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm sniffing around, then I'm looking for a vacuum. Week 496 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: I'll start small, so you know, I may I may 497 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: turn that the black knob, oh, you know, an eighth 498 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: of a turn, just give it, just crack it off 499 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: of you know, if we're looking at the face of 500 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: a clock. Just crack it like an hour and an 501 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: hour and a half open and then the button, the 502 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: button on the top is the go no go right, 503 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: that's the flow. So that's you know, that maximum wide open. 504 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: There's no way to adjust that. There's no regulation there. 505 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: So the black is you're fine tune. So I hold 506 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: the top breast button down and I, you know, slowly 507 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: open and close the black trying to find my flow. 508 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: Now you know, the issue becomes and you know you 509 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: can you can turn it all the way open and 510 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: and and and listen to it. You'll hear how much 511 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: comes out. It doesn't take much. Propane is very precise, 512 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: and you know as you get to use it, you'll 513 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,959 Speaker 1: get more comfortable with it. Um One thing you know 514 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: to to realize is if you were if you were 515 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: trying to get a car or run on propane because 516 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: you're you're you're lazy like Ronn and you don't like 517 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: pushing cars. You're gonna crank that black valve wide open flow. 518 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: You're trying to get as much volume of fuel into 519 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: the duct into the engine as possible. I know your 520 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: your old mobile is carbureted and it's not necessarily affected 521 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: by that um, but you know that's that's I've been 522 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: I've been experimenting with it and getting it to where 523 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: just a little puff comes out, you know, right right 524 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: time I hit that button. But I just didn't want 525 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: to go overboard. Now I don't I don't know if 526 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: it's possible to go overboard, because the worst that happens 527 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: is the car stalls. Right. It's you know, but it's 528 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: it's think of it as a if it was if 529 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: it was smoke that you were letting out of that 530 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: wand all right, and you were you were smoking the 531 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: intake to look to see where the smoke got sucked in, 532 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: For lack of a better way to put it, how 533 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: much smoke do you want coming out the end of 534 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: that brake line? And you know that's that's sort of 535 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,239 Speaker 1: how you're looking at it, all right. Uh, you know, 536 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: it's just that it's just another fuel source. It's wherever 537 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: there's a vacuum week it's going to draw it in. 538 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: Now on a carbureted car, it's a little primitive via 539 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: scan tool because if you were watching this on a 540 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: scan tool, it's such a slow processor that you won't 541 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: see a real fast reaction rate. What I would do is. 542 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: I would go down to the oxygen sensor, and you've 543 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: probably only got one on the driver's side. I'm gonna 544 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: guess there's probably a purple or green wire leading down 545 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: to the O two and the black wire. The the 546 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: other side of that is just a single black wire 547 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: going down to the sensor. I would tap into the 548 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: body harness, into the main vehicle harness there and put 549 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: a voltmeter on it zero one vault You ever, you 550 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: ever play with a two centsor frank to see how 551 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: it works? Uh? Once, long time ago out talking about 552 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: and an oxygen center is like a thermostat, right, It's 553 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: it's a voltage producing device that as the voltage goes up, 554 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: the computer sees the increase in voltage and it says, hey, 555 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: the vehicle is running rich, let's cut back on the fuel. 556 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: And then as it drops down low low as lean, 557 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: it says, hey, the vehicle is lean, let's add more 558 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: fuel to the mixture and so on. So it's sort 559 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: of like the thermostat in your house. You said it 560 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: at sixty eight, the heat comes up, comes up to 561 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: sixty eight, the furnace shuts down and you know, runs 562 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: Then as it cools off, it brings it back up. 563 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: It's an on off cycling type of process. Well, you 564 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: can look at that signal on a voltmeter, all right, 565 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: especially on an older simple car like this now works 566 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: really well if you have a real old school analog 567 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: vaultmeter with a sweeping needle. You know, there you go. 568 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: How did I know you would have one of those? Um? 569 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: Actually I actually have one of those two, and I 570 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: kind of I still like using it. Um. But you know, 571 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's high low. Now for your purposes, 572 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 1: you can look to see where it's going. It's it's 573 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: gonna be very slow, and it's just gonna ditherer a lot, 574 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: and think about it a lot. They weren't really fast 575 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: and responsive. And and the best example of this I 576 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: can give you is if you want to see a 577 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: real fast one, once you get comfortable with it on 578 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: an old car, put it up to a newer car 579 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: that needles bouncing so fast. You'll understand why everything went digital. 580 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: And it's it's sort of the best example of and 581 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: the best look of at something digital versus analog. Now, 582 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: get it on a vault meter and then feed a 583 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: little propane to the motor and watch what the O 584 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: two censor does. It's gonna be instantaneous that it's gonna 585 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: go rich and you're you're, you're gonna see a rich 586 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 1: condition because that fuel is displacing oxygen. And yeah, I'm 587 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: the reason I'm gonna do this is because a problem developed. 588 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: Is the oldest sounds I could have. It's really like 589 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: it has a miss. Okay, this happened a couple of 590 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: years ago. I swore it was electronics pledge or something. 591 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: Everything checked out. I couldn't find the miss that I 592 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: thought it was. Took it to the shop half hour 593 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: shop time later, they said, oh, there's a vacuum league. 594 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Everything else is fine. I neglected to say, where does 595 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: that league show me? But anyway, it's happening again. All 596 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: the plugs are firing. Was that sounds like it's a miss? 597 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna do the vacuum league snooper thing now? Yeah, 598 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: check check check around the base gas. Get very carefully 599 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: of the carburetor. They tended to rot and fall away, 600 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of the vacuum lindes coming off the 601 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: back of the intake manifold, and any of the vacuum 602 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: lines anywhere on those I had a tendency to collapse inwards, 603 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: so you would only see it while the vehicle is running. 604 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: But you know that's what that tool is good for. 605 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: And then get in the habit of using that tool 606 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: on a good car, and you'll see the result. And 607 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: then you'll understand what it's like when you get a 608 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: sick car. And then you'll understand when you've got a 609 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: large vacuum leak on something and it runs really rough 610 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: and terrible and reggy, how the propane smooths it out. 611 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: You know that you're looking for a vacuum leak because 612 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: fuel will fix a vacuum weak. I've never seen fuel 613 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: fix and ignition miss or a mechanical problem. So you 614 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: can use it that way to keep going. Frank, You're 615 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: you're getting their, babe, and um, keep doing what you're doing. 616 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the car doctor, I'll be back 617 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: right after this. Looking back the car doctor Michael in Massachusetts, 618 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: Go babe, BO three Honda Cord. This is the A 619 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: C car from last week. Right, Yes, exactly, I did everything. 620 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: Let's see. We took the I think was another sery 621 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: dish under dish fuse NBER twelve under the hood. We 622 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: checked those they were checked out, all right, okay, um, 623 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: I tapped the chapter Snowflake three day no change HIGNE 624 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: and with it with you see on no change. The 625 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: only thing I did not do was take a reading 626 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: of the of the voltage. And you can't. I haven't 627 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: seen anywhile, so I could not get I could not 628 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: get to reading on the compressor. Okay, that's um. If 629 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: I can get a reading on the compressor and that 630 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: checks out what anything else. Well, you're looking to see 631 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: do you have voltage in ground at the compressor, and 632 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: if you do, you've got a bad clutch coil. It's 633 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: you're at that point, all right. That's that's the last 634 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: step and probably the most critical step. All right, If 635 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: you don't have voltage at the compressor, then we've got 636 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: to back trace it up. Possibly a bad pressure switch 637 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: or a bad climate control head. Not impossible, but clutch 638 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: coils are the bigger failure, and generally at this age 639 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: and mileage, clutch coils become compressor and clutch coils. How 640 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: many males were on this car, I don't recall. I 641 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: have how many? Yeah, So it's you know, the the 642 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: issue is to take it apart and just do a 643 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: compressor clutch. Uh, you know it's got a fair amount 644 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: of miles on it, and the price difference is going 645 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: to be such to justify the labor that it probably 646 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: pays just to put a good compressor assembly in it 647 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: and be done with it. If that's what it turns 648 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: out to be. So have your mechanic check for voltage 649 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: at the compressor clutch coil. You know you should be 650 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: able to turn it on and off if he has 651 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: any doubt. Um, here's an example where let's put a 652 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: remember old school round style headlights. Okay, let's use a 653 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: Let's use a round style headlight. That's about that'll put 654 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: up That will require about seven amp load on the 655 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: circuit if the a C. If the a C control 656 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: can turn on that headlight in place of the compressor clutch. 657 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: We now know the circuit will support electrical current, it 658 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: will support the load, and that you've got a bad compressor. 659 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: We're using the headlight as a load substitute, so we 660 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: can try it that where we can just do it 661 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: with a voltmeter. The headlights are nice. Touch though that 662 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: you may want to do it because it will it 663 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,919 Speaker 1: will put oat and duplicate load on the system. Try 664 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: that this week, calling back next and we can kind 665 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: of take it from there. But I think you're getting closer, Michael. 666 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: Good job. Hey, another hour just flew by till the 667 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: next time. I'm rondinating in the car doctor reminding each 668 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: and every one of you good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. 669 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: See you