WEBVTT - MVP: Harrison Smith and Emmanuel Acho Break Down The Vikings Fast Start - Episode 291

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<v Speaker 2>You're not listening to the Minnesota Vikings podcast. Football finally

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<v Speaker 2>back in the Twin Cities after almost a month since

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<v Speaker 2>the last home game. The Vikings face the four and

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<v Speaker 2>one Lions, their second divisional matchup of the season, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're so lucky to be joined by Vikings veteran safety

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison Smith, still out there proving he's the hit man

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<v Speaker 2>each and every game. And I wanted to ask you

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<v Speaker 2>first off the top, how much fun are you having

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<v Speaker 2>right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Playing in year thirteen.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a group of guys. We got the whole

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<v Speaker 4>staff feeling in the building. It's a lot of fun,

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<v Speaker 4>especially what we're doing on defense. You know, from my

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<v Speaker 4>role individually, it's a lot of fun. So I've been

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<v Speaker 4>around long enough to know that these kind of situations

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<v Speaker 4>don't always come up every year, So definitely take advantage

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<v Speaker 4>of the opportunity for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, you're surrounded a bunch of guys who

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you had the early bye week, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was easy to walk back into the building. What was

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<v Speaker 2>it like to be reunited after, you know, a week off.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's the early buye.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was talking to Jonathan Bullard and he was like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>I was kind of ready for the buye to be

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<v Speaker 4>over with.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think that is that goes along with the kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the joy that we're having, like we want to

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<v Speaker 4>get back to work, we want to get back to it.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's a good sign.

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<v Speaker 2>Recently in the Jets game, you were you joined an

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<v Speaker 2>elite group of people, a Hall of Fame style if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to say that, you're only the seventh dB

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<v Speaker 2>in NFL history to have twenty plus sacks thirty plus interceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>And on the sideline in London, I heard a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the guys being like twenty piece, like you got

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<v Speaker 2>this side they did? They know, like what numbers you're at?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just because last year I got to nineteen and

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<v Speaker 4>a half early in the year and kind of know

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<v Speaker 4>that that's like I wrote down like twenty twenty, twenty picks,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty sacks in like probably twenty fourteen.

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<v Speaker 5>I probably wrote that down, So I've been waiting for

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<v Speaker 5>it for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it was it was cool and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>all the guys being excited for me, that's that's fun.

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<v Speaker 4>That's part of football. So it's a yeah, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 4>cool club to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that it's twenty twenty four and you've hit

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<v Speaker 2>that mark, do you make new marks? Is there like

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<v Speaker 2>a new number you have in your mind you like

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<v Speaker 2>want to end on.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always got some things written down, but it's always

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<v Speaker 4>team goals and then it kind of trickles down from there.

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<v Speaker 4>So whatever we can do to keep winning is all

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<v Speaker 4>that matters for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>For what it's worth, though, as a defensive back, how

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<v Speaker 2>hard is it, like putting it into a perspective for

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<v Speaker 2>fans to be able to reach that thirty twenty mark.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're only the seventh to do it. Just

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<v Speaker 3>how difficult is it?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you definitely have to be a multiple type player,

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<v Speaker 4>a guy that can be trusted playing and coverage in

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<v Speaker 4>getting after the passer. It also has a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>do with the schemes that you play in. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we know that flow Flow likes to be aggressive in

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<v Speaker 4>certain spots so it's it's not just an individual thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's this games I've played in. It's the players

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<v Speaker 4>I've played around, and then when the opportunities arise, take

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<v Speaker 4>advantage of them.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those players that you're playing around who's having

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<v Speaker 2>a really great start to the season is Andrew van Ginkoll,

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<v Speaker 2>with his second pick six of the season. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a trivia question for you, and I see a s mark.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you probably know where this is. My

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<v Speaker 2>idea is, do you know who the last Vikings defender

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<v Speaker 2>was who had two pick sixes in a season?

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<v Speaker 5>It's probably me in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Ingo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, There's only been ten of you guys in

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<v Speaker 2>Viking's history to be able to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>If he beats you, I mean, yeah, that's okay. That's

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<v Speaker 3>okay though.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I told him I think I'm I think I'm like

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<v Speaker 4>the franchise leader and pick sixes as a Viking with four,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, gink you're going to beat me

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<v Speaker 4>in one season, man, Let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep it going.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep it going at this rate for sure. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think Van ginkle has added to this defense?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of like I was saying with the interceptions and

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<v Speaker 4>sacks and stuff like, he's a he's a multiple type

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<v Speaker 4>player that can rest the passer, you know, beat tackles, beatbacks,

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<v Speaker 4>He's really good in games. He can play off the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>He has a really great feel for coverage and dropping

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<v Speaker 4>and finding where the ball is.

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<v Speaker 5>Going to go. He's just to me, he's just he's

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<v Speaker 5>just a football player.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if you played him on offense, he'd figure out

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<v Speaker 4>how to help the team. And if you got you

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<v Speaker 4>got a few guys like that, you can do something

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<v Speaker 4>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like there are several players like that on

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<v Speaker 2>the team who positional flexibility is so important in what

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Flores is running. So how can you explain to

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<v Speaker 2>those who maybe don't know the ins and outs of

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<v Speaker 2>what you guys are doing how critical it is to

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<v Speaker 2>have players like that who can be flexible in their positions.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can't do it without not just one

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<v Speaker 4>guy like that, but a handful or more. And you

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<v Speaker 4>got to have depth because just the reality of the

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<v Speaker 4>NFL season, guys are going to miss some games here

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<v Speaker 4>and there, and that's that's like the physical requirements, but

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<v Speaker 4>then there's mental requirements too, as far as being able

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<v Speaker 4>to like be flexible and recognize things and play at.

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<v Speaker 5>A high IQ level.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, when you watch it unfold, it doesn't always

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<v Speaker 4>look that complicated, but to get to that point is

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<v Speaker 4>normally a few steps, and to be able to do

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<v Speaker 4>it collectively is another thing. So we're always practicing and

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get it right, and luckily we have a

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<v Speaker 4>coaching staff that trusts us and players that can get

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<v Speaker 4>it done.

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<v Speaker 2>So before week six, this defense ranked first and hurries

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<v Speaker 2>knockdowns and pressures second in sacks. However, you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>blitzing at a little rate than you were last season

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<v Speaker 2>under Flores.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you able to blitz a little bit less

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<v Speaker 3>but still get.

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<v Speaker 2>Enough pressure on the quarterback to affect them more this year?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's it's, you know, credit to the guys

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<v Speaker 4>up front, different ways that we're doing. It's not always

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<v Speaker 4>just sending more than they can block. And then obviously

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<v Speaker 4>being in the right calls that stresses what offenses are doing.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that starts with Flow and Deronte and Swerve

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<v Speaker 4>and the coaching staff and we just try to try

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<v Speaker 4>to execute there their plan. You know, we're just the

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<v Speaker 4>pieces on the board and every now and then we can,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of go outside of our of our

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<v Speaker 4>movement pattern. But if we execute the plan collectively, it's

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<v Speaker 4>normally going to give us a good shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have the analogy written in my notes that

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<v Speaker 2>it just feels like Brian Flores is playing chess out

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<v Speaker 2>there and everybody else is playing checkers.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've made a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 2>Quarterbacks look like rookies out there, or at least as

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<v Speaker 2>much as you can. For a second and third, your

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<v Speaker 2>players look looking to be back to their rookie seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>As you're watching the defense affect the way that their

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<v Speaker 2>game is going. How does that feed you guys as

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<v Speaker 2>a unit? You know, because you're seeing them go through

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<v Speaker 2>their mind, They're like, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Figure this out.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you see a guy like Aaron Rodgers and he

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<v Speaker 2>has the same problems.

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<v Speaker 4>We definitely take into account who the quarterback is an

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<v Speaker 4>experience level, and what they're going to recognize and what

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<v Speaker 4>we can maybe make harder on them. It's really just

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<v Speaker 4>about trying to make it harder on them. They're going

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<v Speaker 4>to make their plays here and there, but if we

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<v Speaker 4>can if we can add anything to their thought process

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<v Speaker 4>pre snap, post snap, and just make it a little

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<v Speaker 4>a little harder to tell exactly what's going on. That's, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what we're looking to do.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you do that to Jared Goff on Sunday?

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<v Speaker 4>Same plan as far as you know the ideas of

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<v Speaker 4>what we're trying to get done. He's obviously a veteran

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<v Speaker 4>guy with a lot of success, a very good, very

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<v Speaker 4>good player, can make a lot of big throws, and

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<v Speaker 4>has a lot of a lot of good players, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of offensive skilled players, good o line, good running backs,

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<v Speaker 4>so they they do a really good job over there,

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<v Speaker 4>and and and Goff is a huge piece of that.

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<v Speaker 5>So just trying to make it hard on him like

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<v Speaker 5>we do on everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And Brian was really funny this week saying that

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<v Speaker 2>he likes to fight fire with fire when asked about

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<v Speaker 2>the Lion's aggressive play, calling, in your eyes, what's fire

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<v Speaker 2>going to look like?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's not it's not far off from what

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<v Speaker 5>you've seen before.

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<v Speaker 3>But they it doesn't seem like they can figure it

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<v Speaker 3>out though.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, normally in the NFL, there's enough

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<v Speaker 4>good coaches and players out there that people are going

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<v Speaker 4>to figure some stuff out. And you got to adjust

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<v Speaker 4>and Ben Johnson their offensive coordinator. He's fantastic and he's

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<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of like you mentioned fire with fire

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<v Speaker 4>like it's similar they do. They do some things that

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<v Speaker 4>are aggressive and can be tricky for defenses, so it

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<v Speaker 4>should be a good matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>Recently, you were in tell Us with Mattelus with Josh

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<v Speaker 2>and we notice that you're not really a phone guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You got the blank background screen. It's just for communication.

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<v Speaker 2>So just to let you know. On social media right now,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's talking about, you know, the Vikings and they're one

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<v Speaker 2>of two undefeated teams left in the league. There's other

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<v Speaker 2>guys on the team that are looking at their phone,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the younger guys. How do you make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't buy into all these narratives that they're seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>As a leader and a veteran on this team, it's

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<v Speaker 3>human nature.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll hear good things about you and react a certain way,

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<v Speaker 4>or negative things about you and get caught up in that,

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<v Speaker 4>and everyone operates a little differently. Like some guys can

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<v Speaker 4>handle seeing it, some guys should probably just stay away

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<v Speaker 4>from it. So just kind of figuring out how you

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<v Speaker 4>operate and keeping your eye on like the things that

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<v Speaker 4>really matter, and those things are typically the things in

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<v Speaker 4>the building, you know, your family at home. But there's

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<v Speaker 4>no reason to be affected by it at this point.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we kind of knew who we were before

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<v Speaker 4>the season started. Most people didn't. Some people are coming

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<v Speaker 4>around to it, and it doesn't really change anything for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of family at home, you've got two little ones

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<v Speaker 2>on a the age of three.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm not mistaken, you were.

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<v Speaker 2>What I've noticed though, that one of you and your

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<v Speaker 2>wife's favorite months is October. It feels like you've got

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<v Speaker 2>some pretty epic Halloween costumes over the years. Has it

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<v Speaker 2>been fun to include the kids? Like, are you guys

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<v Speaker 2>family brainstorming on what to do each year?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's it's become you know, my wife kind of

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<v Speaker 4>kind of runs the show with the costumes, but now

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<v Speaker 4>like the focal point is the kids, and then we

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<v Speaker 4>we kind of fill in where we need to. So

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<v Speaker 4>we've got a few different ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean the holidays, I think having children probably

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<v Speaker 2>changes that a little bit. What's been the best part about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, seeing them experience Halloween or Christmas time?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is kind of the first year that our

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<v Speaker 4>daughter will like really get into it.

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<v Speaker 5>She's just getting old enough.

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<v Speaker 4>She was just kind of a prop last year, and

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<v Speaker 4>our son will be still kind of a prop. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's fun to it's it's definitely fun to see our

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<v Speaker 4>daughter get into it. She likes she likes us stuff too.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like her mom, so we'll definitely have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>She cracked me up the other day when I was

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<v Speaker 2>on the field she before one of the games.

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<v Speaker 3>She was just flat out laying on the turf and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Grass, like totally comfortable being there and being herself.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is so awesome to see.

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<v Speaker 2>What's it like as a father to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>give these unique experiences to your children, who are, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>growing up around such a different world.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 4>Something I didn't think about for the majority of my career,

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<v Speaker 4>but seeing my teammates who had kids kind of old

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<v Speaker 4>enough to enjoy the experience of the NFL and the

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<v Speaker 4>team and everything. So now that now that I get

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<v Speaker 4>to do it with my kids, it's I realize how

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<v Speaker 4>special that is. And hopefully they'll remember some of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you might be playing a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer they'll be able to remember. I'm sure they will

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<v Speaker 2>be in attendance on Sunday, the noon kick against the Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>The crowd there is always something that is really special.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been almost a month since we've had a home game,

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<v Speaker 2>and last time we were there it was the Texans

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<v Speaker 2>game and it really affected what the Texans were able

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<v Speaker 2>to do on offense. How much does that crowd noise

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<v Speaker 2>actually play into what you guys are able to do defensively?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a legitimate home field advantage, which I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>is the case everywhere in the NFL, but it's a.

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<v Speaker 5>Big advantage for us.

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<v Speaker 4>It also you normally don't think about it from a

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<v Speaker 4>defensive standpoint, but it kind of makes it harder for

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<v Speaker 4>us too. But we're okay with that, like we've done

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<v Speaker 4>it enough. We'll figure it out. And then the road

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<v Speaker 4>games on the flip side are like completely silent when

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<v Speaker 4>we're out there, so it does.

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<v Speaker 5>It's normally not how fans.

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<v Speaker 4>Think of it from a home field away a standpoint,

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<v Speaker 4>but we preferred as loud as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. Well, thank you so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>We appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Best of luck this season, and uh let's go six

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<v Speaker 2>and oh right, that's the point.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Another big thank you to Harrison Smith for joining the

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<v Speaker 2>there's a big old game looming. On Sunday, the undefeated

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota Vikings take on the four and one Lions at

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<v Speaker 2>US Bank Stadium. To help us preview this matchup, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a chance to catch up with Fox Sports's Emmanuel Acho,

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<v Speaker 2>and while he had some great insight on what's to

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<v Speaker 2>come in that game, I also asked him why he

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<v Speaker 2>believed in this Minnesota Vikings team early on. We're very

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<v Speaker 2>excited to be joined by Fox Sports's Emmanuel Acho right now,

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<v Speaker 2>the former college linebacker, former NFL linebacker now on the

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<v Speaker 2>facility on FS one mornings at nine am our Central

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<v Speaker 2>time zone. Manuel, thank you so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like you guys are having so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Lashawn McCoy, James Jones, Chase Daniel. It's a great combo

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<v Speaker 2>you've got going on, man.

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<v Speaker 6>We appreciate it. It's a television experience.

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<v Speaker 7>I try to tell people, not just the TV show,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's the only show on daily television that's all athletes,

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<v Speaker 7>and so we really want fans, We want viewers to

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<v Speaker 7>experience TV differently. We don't just want to debate, we

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<v Speaker 7>want to discuss. We think that debating has been played out.

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<v Speaker 7>I think the fans are educated enough to understand the game.

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<v Speaker 7>And so when you got all athletes thirty nine years

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<v Speaker 7>of NFL experience, four Super Bowls sitting at one desk,

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<v Speaker 7>there's nothing like it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I love that discussion versus debate that we could

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<v Speaker 2>have a whole other side conversation about that.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're here to talk about the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 2>And in your Monday morning pressers, you've alerted fans NFL

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<v Speaker 2>fans for weeks now that you got to believe in

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<v Speaker 2>this Vikings team. Why did you feel so passionately about

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<v Speaker 2>that from the jump?

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<v Speaker 7>Really, I believe the Vikings have a top three coaching

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<v Speaker 7>staff in football. I spent a few days with Kevin

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<v Speaker 7>O'Connell last year at Mark Sanchez, a close friend of

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<v Speaker 7>mine's wedding. We were in Mexico. I got some time

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<v Speaker 7>to just pick his brain. But even more than picking

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<v Speaker 7>Koc's brain, I got some time to get to know

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<v Speaker 7>him the man, him, the human.

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<v Speaker 6>Incredible leader of men.

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<v Speaker 7>He can get along with and galvanize any group. So

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<v Speaker 7>realizing that he is the leader at the Helm. But

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<v Speaker 7>then obviously Brian floor As being a defensive wizard outside

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<v Speaker 7>of Andy Reid and Steve Spagnola, I don't think there

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<v Speaker 7>is a greater offensive defensive mind currently combination in the

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<v Speaker 7>game of football. So when you look at those minds

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<v Speaker 7>and then you look at what they're putting on tape,

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<v Speaker 7>it's breathtaking. You got two savants out there, two wizards

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<v Speaker 7>out there calling the game. But because of the trust

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<v Speaker 7>the players have in the coaching scheme, it's just brilliant.

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<v Speaker 7>And so for that reason, I'm really all in on

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<v Speaker 7>the Vikings this year. As long as Sam Donald continues

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<v Speaker 7>to play at.

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<v Speaker 6>A high level.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you mentioned Sam Donald and your conversations with Kevin O'Connell.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think he's been able to elevate in

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<v Speaker 2>Sam's game? Or really, I mean, I'm sure he's had

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<v Speaker 2>it all along, but what has he made it work?

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<v Speaker 2>For Sam to be so confident this early on in

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<v Speaker 2>this system.

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<v Speaker 7>The first and foremost he's believed in an individual. Oftentimes

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<v Speaker 7>you just need somebody to believe in you. Sam Donald

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<v Speaker 7>has always been talented, and I was a college analyst

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<v Speaker 7>before an NFL analyst at USC.

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<v Speaker 6>Sam Donald was incredibly talented.

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<v Speaker 7>But when you don't have offensive coaches around you, and

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<v Speaker 7>you don't have that belief in you will never be

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<v Speaker 7>able to see your talent. So the first thing is

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<v Speaker 7>he believed in Sam Donald, which is an unherlded coaching trait.

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<v Speaker 7>We only talk about exes and o's, forget x's and o's.

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<v Speaker 7>Do I believe in you as a player, because if

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<v Speaker 7>I believe in you, you'll begin to believe in you.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the first thing. The second thing we have to

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<v Speaker 7>remember success begets success and failure begets failure. The more

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<v Speaker 7>you succeed as a player, the more you'll continue to

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<v Speaker 7>succeed as a player. So I think Sam Donald has

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<v Speaker 7>tasted success, He's tasted winning, and now you kind of start.

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<v Speaker 6>Liking that tastes of success.

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<v Speaker 7>And beyond that, I think schematically, Kevin O'Connell does a

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<v Speaker 7>really good job with pre snap motions, does a really

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<v Speaker 7>good job with pre snap shifts.

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<v Speaker 6>He does a really good job telling.

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<v Speaker 7>Sam Donald where to throw the football formationally, so he

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't have to tell him in the headset.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's also very helpful for Sam Donald to have such.

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<v Speaker 3>An amazing defense on the other side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've mentioned Brian Flores and his wizardry so far,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was this week that you recently said

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<v Speaker 2>the Vikings defense could be a generational defense at taking.

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<v Speaker 3>The ball away.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think this group is executing that at

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<v Speaker 2>such a high level.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think it's what you got to go back

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<v Speaker 7>to nineteen eighty eight to find a Vikings defense allowing

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<v Speaker 7>this few points per game plus eleven I think eleven

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<v Speaker 7>interceptions something along those lines. Eleven interceptions, maybe twenty takeaways. Truly,

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<v Speaker 7>it is the trust and the scheme married together. What

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<v Speaker 7>I mean by that is you have defensive backs that

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<v Speaker 7>are playing zero coverage. I will talk as though people

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<v Speaker 7>have no idea what I'm talking about. Obviously they do,

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<v Speaker 7>but you have defensive backs playing zero coverage, meaning they

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<v Speaker 7>have no help. They have to trust that the rush

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<v Speaker 7>is going to get there. If you're playing zero coverage

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<v Speaker 7>with no help, one of the rushers will be unblocked.

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<v Speaker 7>But the defensive backs have to trust that the rusher

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<v Speaker 7>is going to be unblocked and that the rusher is

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<v Speaker 7>going to get home, and the rusher has to get home.

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<v Speaker 7>When you marry the trust and the execution together, the

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<v Speaker 7>play will win. If the defensive back does not trust

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<v Speaker 7>that the rusher will get home and as a result,

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<v Speaker 7>the defensive back he plays a little more aggressive, he'll

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<v Speaker 7>get beat. If the rusher doesn't get home, then you'll

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<v Speaker 7>never land. But I do I challenge the viewers go back.

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<v Speaker 7>Rewatch the Van Ginkle interception for a touchdown versus the Jets,

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<v Speaker 7>and rewatch the Harrison Smith sack. It's on third and six.

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<v Speaker 7>Both of those plays. What you'll see is trust. You'll

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<v Speaker 7>see the defensive backs trusting the rush and you'll see

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<v Speaker 7>the rust trusting the defensive back. And it's the trust

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<v Speaker 7>that makes it all work. Everybody runs zero coverage. Everybody

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<v Speaker 7>runs it like the Vikings running.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they put five games on tape by now

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<v Speaker 2>how sustainable is this way of play as you go

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<v Speaker 2>into now what is going to be a twelve plus

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<v Speaker 2>game stretch.

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<v Speaker 7>There are weaknesses to Brian floor as a scheme. I

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<v Speaker 7>know some of the weaknesses to the scheme, but I

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<v Speaker 7>think it would take Andy Reid to expose it. Like

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<v Speaker 7>not everybody like I'm waiting for one coach to simply

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<v Speaker 7>do what I'm like, Dude, this is all you have

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<v Speaker 7>to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, don't tell us.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, I'm like, I'm not saying what I'm and

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<v Speaker 7>it'll get But I think it would take Andy Reid. Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know that many coaches who can expose it.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe Sean McVay, maybe Kyle Shanahan.

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<v Speaker 7>But you need a coach, and you need the players,

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<v Speaker 7>and then you need the execution again, just to nerd

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<v Speaker 7>out real quick. Those that are listening and watching, go

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<v Speaker 7>back and look at the Mike Williams drop. I think

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<v Speaker 7>it was the twelve minute fit fifty four second mark

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<v Speaker 7>of the Jets versus the Bills game most recently. The

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<v Speaker 7>Bills ran the exact same defense as the Vikings, and

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<v Speaker 7>the reason they did so was because the Vikings had

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<v Speaker 7>so much success with it against the Jets.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a copycat league.

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<v Speaker 7>So just because you know what the Vikings are doing,

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<v Speaker 7>and just because you practice against what the Vikings are doing,

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<v Speaker 7>can you execute it?

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<v Speaker 6>I think it would take Andy Reid to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, now that we know that you're officially

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<v Speaker 2>an encyclopedia of football, I do not know how you

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<v Speaker 2>keep it all in.

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<v Speaker 3>Your brain enough.

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<v Speaker 7>So.

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<v Speaker 2>The Lions will be playing in Viking at the US

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<v Speaker 2>Bank Stadium against the Vikings this weekend, and obviously they

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<v Speaker 2>have an offense that even Brian Flores said, it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to find a weakness on.

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<v Speaker 3>So what do the Vikings need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do to I guess disrupt what the Lions do.

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<v Speaker 7>Keep them behind the sticks. The Vikings' best attribute is

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<v Speaker 7>when they get a team in third and six or longer.

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<v Speaker 7>If you get a team in third and six or longer,

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<v Speaker 7>you can zero pressure. And that's really what makes the

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<v Speaker 7>Vikings defense great. The Vikings defense is cool, but it's

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<v Speaker 7>the zero pressure scheme that makes them next level. But

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<v Speaker 7>you can zero pressure on third and two or third

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<v Speaker 7>and three, or third and four or third and one.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to play straight. Simply put, you just kind

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<v Speaker 6>of kind.

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<v Speaker 7>Of call basic man the man, you know, even cover ones,

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<v Speaker 7>even jet cover ones, even one robbers.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm just giving all different play calls.

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<v Speaker 7>But if you get them in third and six or

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<v Speaker 7>third and seven, or third and eight or third and nine,

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<v Speaker 7>that's when you get to have fun. That's when you

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<v Speaker 7>get to bring out your prowler package, or you get

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<v Speaker 7>to bring out your fun package. You can do the

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<v Speaker 7>stuff that the Vikings did where you got nine players

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<v Speaker 7>standing up and only two players' hands in the ground.

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<v Speaker 7>The problem is the Lion's gonna run that football. They

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<v Speaker 7>gonna run, they're gonna get in third and two, third

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<v Speaker 7>and three. So whoever wins this game will be whoever

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<v Speaker 7>won on first down. Don't look at the final score,

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<v Speaker 7>just look at who won on first down. Whoever wins

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<v Speaker 7>on first down will win the game if it goes

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<v Speaker 7>to second and eight advantage Vikings. If it goes to

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<v Speaker 7>second and six, second and five advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>Lines, well, thank you so much, Manuel for sharing your

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<v Speaker 2>time today.

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<v Speaker 3>We really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not following him on x or Twitter or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it's called these, you definitely should. He is a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful follow You can also catch him on the facility

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<v Speaker 2>on FS one every morning or weekday morning at nine

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<v Speaker 2>am Central time. And if college football is your jam,

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<v Speaker 2>you're still doing that too.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I don't know how you do it all, Tatum,

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<v Speaker 3>thanks so much, no, thank you, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you again so much to Emmanuel Acho and our

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<v Speaker 2>first interview this Minnesota Vikings podcast, Harrison Smith. If you

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<v Speaker 2>miss that one, be sure to go to our podcast

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<v Speaker 2>channel or check out Vikings dot com for our conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with the hit Man.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a game on Sunday. It's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>big one at US Bank Stadium. Kickoff is set.

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<v Speaker 2>For noon against the Lions. You can catch that on Fox.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also hear it right here on kfan. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you again so much for listening to MVP. I'm Tatum

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<v Speaker 2>Everett and let's watch these vikings go six and