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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Citizens the official Bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I am John Schmelk.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we are snowed in in New York City, in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. We hope to get out to the Combine shortly,

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Speaker 1: but we have managed to finagle things with some help

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Speaker 1: from our guys here. Big shout out to Charles Ardber

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Speaker 1: for helping us here. Big shout out to Matt Stopski

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Speaker 1: for helping us out in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: So we're still going to try to do some of

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Speaker 2: those interviews, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, And now we welcome in from the Combine, Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: the excellent draft analyst NFL Network Daniel Jeremiah DJ.

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Speaker 2: What's up, man, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, man. I wish you were here, but

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Speaker 3: sounds like the effort is there and eventually we get you,

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Speaker 3: get you out here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we should be arriving shortly. We appreciate you doing

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Speaker 1: this over Zoom four. So you Giants picking fifth again. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: every time I talk to you, I feel like the

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Speaker 1: Giants have a top five, top ten pick.

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Speaker 2: And is it fair to me to say this?

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Speaker 1: Maybe unlike last year when you know mylite neighbors or

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Speaker 1: two years ago when Elie Neighbors get to the Giants,

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Speaker 1: they got Abdul quarter three last year. You're probably not

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Speaker 1: going to be talking about the same graded level of

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Speaker 1: players in this year's draft class.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's a safe assumption. You know, I

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Speaker 3: think there's there's really really good players and impact players,

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Speaker 3: but that was a different echelon, you know, with those guys.

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Speaker 3: So you got a chance to get somebody's gonna really

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Speaker 3: really help you. In some years, you're gonna have years

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Speaker 3: where you got these marquee premier, premier guys and we

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Speaker 3: just you know, this draft just doesn't have that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And and the top guys are safeties and running

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Speaker 1: backs and uh off ball linebackers and converted off ball

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Speaker 1: linebackers to edge players. It's just a very different type

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Speaker 1: of draft.

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Speaker 3: That's a great way to put it. I think there's

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Speaker 3: some you know, there's some guesswork there, uh this year

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Speaker 3: in terms of just you know, filling in some of

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Speaker 3: the cracks on some of these players. And there's no

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Speaker 3: perfect prospect ever, but this year kind of accentuates that

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Speaker 3: you got guys with real strengths and you got to

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Speaker 3: figure out what your you know what you want and

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Speaker 3: what you're looking for. I do think they can find

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Speaker 3: winning player here that can really help them. It's a

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Speaker 3: new era with John Harbaugh there, and I think they

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Speaker 3: want somebody to come in and make an impact and

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Speaker 3: help this team get back on track. I think there's

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Speaker 3: some good options.

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Speaker 1: So let's put needs aside, DJ, Let's just talk about

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Speaker 1: the players here, because I think if you look at

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Speaker 1: Jim Harp John Harbaugh's history with the Ravens, they like

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Speaker 1: to just sit there, wait for the best player to

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Speaker 1: fault them and then you pick them right, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, Tyle Lindebomb, whoever it might be. So when

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Speaker 1: you just look at your grades and you usuently released

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Speaker 1: your top fifty, I thought it was interesting that you

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Speaker 1: would both styles and the lane ahead of Caleb Downs.

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Speaker 1: How did you sort through that type of group of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, it was you know a couple of

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Speaker 3: different things. Number one is just pure impact. You know.

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Speaker 3: I like Caleb Downs a lot as a player. He's

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Speaker 3: a really really sound, solid football player. I think with

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Speaker 3: when you watch Sunny Styles against Indiana in the Big

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Speaker 3: Ten Championship game, he's the best player on the field

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Speaker 3: you're getting big time impact there with him. Man Seward Delane,

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Speaker 3: I think's got a chance to be a number one corner.

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Speaker 3: So that's a premier position and a guy who plays

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Speaker 3: He's a really you know, he's a good tackler, he's

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to hit each of those guys

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Speaker 1: terms of let's start with downs. I thought around the

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Speaker 1: it's funny, and I think you put this in your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's that's that's part of the evaluation. And

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Speaker 3: I you know, I don't know how much he's going

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Speaker 3: to do through the workout process. You know, going forward,

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Speaker 3: he's widely viewed as a top ten pick, and sometimes

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Speaker 3: those guys don't go through the whole process. So that

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Speaker 3: would be unfortunate because I'd like to see him move

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Speaker 3: You know, the one thing about him is the the

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Speaker 3: With downs, it is legit, you know, to the point

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Speaker 3: where I talked to one of his former teammates at

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Speaker 3: he signed, you know, going into you know, during the

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Speaker 3: a high school kid coming in there. They've got a

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Speaker 3: bowl game, so doing bowl game prep. He's not even

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Speaker 3: the spring semester. He's obviously not eligible to play in

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Speaker 3: the game. He's like I was sitting next to him

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Speaker 3: on the bus and we were leaving practice on the

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Speaker 3: way back to the hotel, and he's got the defensive

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Speaker 3: game plan out and he's studying it from the entire buster.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say a word. He's sitting there studying for

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Speaker 3: a game he's not even eligible to play in. So

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Speaker 3: he's the wiring stuff on him as legit.

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Speaker 2: Hoddle up, get in here. If you're lined up here,

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Speaker 2: you gotta go over the middle with at the score great.

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Speaker 3: How do we make that happen?

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Speaker 1: trying not to fall into the same shop I fell

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Speaker 1: into a Kyle Hamilton is I said, right, you're sitting

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Speaker 1: now a few years ago and I'm sitting there. You

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Speaker 1: know what, I just don't think Kyle Hamilton can cover

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Speaker 1: if my safety can't cover slot wide receiver, you know

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Speaker 1: why am I picking him in the top ten? And

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm overcompensating here, but I'm just trying not to

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Speaker 1: just trying not to fall into that. You know, rely

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I would say the difference though is that Kyle

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Speaker 3: Hamilton was bigger, and I think Kyle Hamilton had more

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 3: And the way I would, you know, get to it

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Speaker 3: already watched Downs, and I had done styles, and i'd

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Speaker 3: done rvel Reese. But as I was going through other

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Speaker 3: their schedule when I was watching games, I just remember,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, whoa, there's styles okay, and I'm watching Iggnosen'

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Speaker 3: that's not saying he's not playing well, it's just that

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Speaker 1: No, I think that's there all right. Sonny styles really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, part of that is when you've got a really

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Speaker 3: you don't get as many opportunities to clean up a

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Speaker 3: mess that's already been cleaned up. So there's some of that.

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Speaker 3: But he is Look, he uses his hands, he played

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Speaker 3: he's got length, he uses it. He'll scrape over the

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Speaker 3: I mean there's some of that. Some guys aren't given

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Speaker 3: a it's a it's a shell, it's a structure. It's

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Speaker 3: the ultimate freedom where you're going to vacate and leave

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Speaker 3: us vulnerable. Here, we're going to kind of create up

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Speaker 3: they maybe that isn't true. Maybe he's just light triggering,

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Speaker 3: But that's something that you know, you got to get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's honestly what I thought might have been the case,

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you, though, he is a great off

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Speaker 1: His ability to use his length and separate and get

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Speaker 3: And talk about just two imposing guys with him in

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Speaker 3: just again, I think the word the If we're getting

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Speaker 1: No, though, I'm with you, and look especially on lead

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Speaker 1: Tate's my number one guy. I'm still not sure DJ,

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Speaker 2: But I do think he compliments what.

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Speaker 1: we talk about all these guys, and I think all

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Speaker 3: But there's a takeaway there, there's an absolute takeaway. They

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Speaker 1: What do you think it takes run after catch ability.

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Speaker 3: That's not really what you're buying with him on the

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Speaker 2: It helps, all right.

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Speaker 1: Mauiinoa and Fano. You know, as a team that drafted

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Speaker 1: All Right, giants big of thirty seven DJ, give me

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Speaker 3: Styles downs, Tate Delaine. Yes, I would take Styles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: DJ, enjoy the rest of the combine, my friend. You

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Speaker 1: got a lot more of these to do. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: just stopping by, and hopefully we'll see in Indy tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Travel safe, man.

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Speaker 2: We thank Daniel Jeremiah for joining us.

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Speaker 1: You get check out NFL Networks coverage of the combine

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Speaker 1: all week long on NFL Network.

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Speaker 2: DJ's awesome.

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Speaker 1: We always thank him and the great folks in the

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Speaker 1: NFL Network for making him available to us during.

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Speaker 2: The week In Indy.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it for this edition of The Giants

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Speaker 1: Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official Bank

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Speaker 1: of the Giants. I'm in the hackensack of Marine Hill

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Speaker 1: Podcast to you keep getting better. For Daniel Jeremiah, I'm

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Speaker 1: John Schmulck. We'll see next.

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Speaker 3: I'm everybody