1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Radio Radio Radio Commies of Myth and Bullshit, a radio 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: phonic novella. Local Radio hosted by Malamunos and Hello lookas 3 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: and welcome back to local Radio. Local Radio is hosted 4 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: by your local to Malamunos and I'm disa fem and 5 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: as you all know, during Brown Girl Hour, we make 6 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: space for the exploration and celebration of the experiences, brilliance, creativity, 7 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: and legacies of fems and women of color. Thank you 8 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in to another cap of Brown 9 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Girl Hour in this capital, We're gonna be talking about 10 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: fem tech and what that means. Um. We want to 11 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: explore the ways women and fems of color have created 12 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: technology in accessible ways. We all know that a lot 13 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: of restrictions have been placed on our learning and education historically, 14 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: and in so many ways, our brilliance is resurrected and 15 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: manifested in these like techno historical ways. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, 16 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: And this the idea for fem tech. For this is 17 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: something that we've been talking about for a while. We've 18 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: been letting it brew, we've been sitting on it, we've 19 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: been doing our research to really cultivate this idea and 20 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: our fem tech content is not only going to be 21 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: limited to this capito correct. And it's also really hard 22 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: because I think Mala and I are both really impatient people, 23 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: Like once we have an idea, we really want to 24 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: put it out there. But we have been, like Mali said, 25 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: kind of like letting this idea of like what fem 26 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: tech is, let it, letting it culminate in our brains. 27 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: And like we've been now we've been seeing everywhere, and 28 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: we've been seeing like inspiration everywhere. So I'm really excited 29 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: to really unveil like all these different ideas in this 30 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: cup too and share with y'all. Um. I think like 31 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: first and foremost, like we can talk about really like 32 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: not maybe not very subtle them tech um or like 33 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: maybe our first intro to some type of like stem 34 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: as women as young girls has been like through cooking, 35 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: through sewing. Um. Mala, for you, like, did you, first 36 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: of all do you like to cook? I do like 37 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: to cook. I enjoy cooking, and my grandmother is and 38 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: my grandfather, both of them they are the cooks in 39 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: the family. And as we all know, cooking is very 40 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: much a science. Yes, that must be really that must 41 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: be a really interesting fusion because as I remember, your 42 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: grandpa is Puerto Rican. Yeah, he's from Puerto Rico and 43 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: so and my grandmother is from Jalisco, Mexico. So the 44 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: cooking that they do is very different. Yeah, that must 45 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: be delicious. It is delicious. There's always something good to 46 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: eat always in Peru also, and yeah, so do you like, 47 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: do you have a dish that you like to cook 48 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: or that you remember learning as a young girl. Well, 49 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: something that my grandmother taught me how to make um 50 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: is themalist because she makes them quite often, and there's 51 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: definitely a science behind making whatever kind of them are making. 52 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: So I think that was one intro and another intro 53 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: to kind of like fashion. But even like I would say, 54 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: like it's I feel like there's a lot of engineering 55 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: that goes into fashion and the construction of clothes. Absolutely 56 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: there's a pattern, it's like so scientific or scientific undeniable. 57 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: And my grandmother and we'll because we're definitely descended from 58 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: like my grandmother and my great grandmother worked in sweatshops 59 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: in l A and they sewed in factories. So sewing 60 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: and pattern making and all of that stuff has always 61 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: been a deal in my family. And so my grandmother, 62 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: like she made her own wedding dress. She would make 63 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: all of my mom and her siblings their clothes. And 64 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: my mother is of professional flamenco dancer, but she makes 65 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: her own costumes, you know. So I've always been around 66 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: the sewing machine and sewing and my dad's mom when 67 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: whenever she had a new grandchild coming she would um quilt. 68 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: She would make a new quilt right for the new babies. 69 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: So on either side of the family, you saw those 70 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: very like traditional firm methods of creating, cooking, sewing, pattern making. 71 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: And it's something that I saw a lot growing up. Yeah. Interesting, Um, 72 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I I don't really have that kind 73 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: of like memory. First of all, because my mom hates 74 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: to sew. She still hates to cook, like she won't 75 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: admit it, but she hates to cook. She like her 76 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: and that's cool. Like she didn't like it, I'm like, 77 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: you don't have to. And sewing also, so I feel 78 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: like I don't really have that exp from my mom. 79 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: But for for all the other women in my life 80 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: growing up, like everybody had like their own little like 81 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: niche like what they were really good at. Like one 82 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: day I was really good at cooking, the other one 83 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: was really good at sewing and she would like make dresses. 84 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: And I know for my mom, her Thea and Machinko 85 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: would make her dresses all the time, like a new 86 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: dress every week, you know, because that was like her 87 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: her little baby um. And on my dad's side, same thing, 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: Like everybody was good at something. I think my lad 89 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: design hats at the point, like in Fidu, she was 90 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: like designing hats like millin Yeah, and then my Thea, 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: like she when she moved here from Fidu when they immigrated, 92 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: she was also working in a factory here in downtown 93 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: l A. And she kind of did like the whole 94 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: fake it till you make a thing, like I think 95 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: that her Her boss was like this Armenian man and 96 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: he like saw or she was like always like trying 97 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: to do more. So he saw something in her, so 98 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: he started like saying, like can you do this? And 99 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: she'd be like yeah, but she had no idea, but 100 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: she would literally create it and she would learn and 101 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: she would force herself to like learn these different patterns 102 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: and she became really successful and like had like a 103 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: business in Mexico and Fidu and like was just like 104 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. You know, so I think, like we have 105 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: models in our families, then maybe we don't necessarily see 106 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: them as like these like stem check like brilliant creators, 107 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: but they really are are um you know, and what 108 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: they're what they're expressing and the sewing or the weaving, 109 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: um printmaking, pattern making, dyeing cloth, all that stuff is 110 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: what has been historically for centuries practice as a means 111 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: of surviving and creating. But also a lot of our 112 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: ancestors are fem ancestors have very much been limited right 113 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: to only utilizing certain forms of knowledge and production that 114 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: are accessible to them because different allowed to go to school. 115 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: What are you where are you channeling your genius? Exactly? 116 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: I know you hearing you say that, Like thinking of 117 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: our fem ance history, Like I'm thinking about likes and 118 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: Vinas and fidu and like how like dies created, like 119 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: for like Yama and like alpaca, like you know, like 120 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: the wool, like how it's like died and how it's 121 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: like an actual science. And when I was in like 122 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: we um, like someone did a demonstration about I was 123 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: at a a cooperative type of thing and um it 124 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: was like run by a family, like like a few 125 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: different families, and they were like showing us how they 126 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: like take natural colors and like diet. You know, so 127 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: hearing you say that reminded me of that trip um 128 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 1: I know that you actually have and like a really 129 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: brilliant example about sewing and weaving, tell us about it. Yes, 130 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: absolutely so. Um. What we wanted to do with this, 131 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: right is talk about how women women of color, indigenous women, 132 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: indigenous fems have been participating in technology and innovation for centuries, right, 133 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: Like we've been creating and our ancestors have been creating 134 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: for centuries. But quite often what the production and the 135 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: and the inventions made by indigenous women, by black women, 136 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: by brown women, by fems are often undervalued and considered 137 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: either frivolous, not that intricate, not that innovative. They're they're 138 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: completely undervalued because of who creates these products, and because 139 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: they're not their utility is not recognized. Right. So we 140 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: saw a contemporary example of very ancient fem knowledge now 141 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: being utilized like in biotech. Yes, tell us, yes so 142 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: we I bet a bunch of people have seen this. 143 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: But there was an article that made its rounds in 144 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: print publications and RESCLA did one and Remescla did an 145 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: article about Eyemata women from Bolivia, indigenous women who were 146 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: using their very traditional weaving techniques and weaving patterns to 147 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: create heart implants for children with heart defects. So I 148 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: guess there was some biotech company that decided to take 149 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: on these Amata women as employees. And they're really they're 150 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: like in laboratories weaving the actual physical, little tiny heart 151 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: implants by hand, right, because based on the research that 152 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: I've seen and based on the journalism around these women, 153 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: the type of sewing, the type of intricate work that 154 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 1: goes into a heart implant is even more intricate than 155 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: machines can accomplish, right, So they needed something so technical 156 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: that machines could not you know, performance, So they needed 157 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: to go and reach into a very like old like 158 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: pool of knowledge. So you have these indigenous women literally 159 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: saving lives and doing so in a biotech yeah, which 160 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: I think is awesome. Yeah, And I like how you 161 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: mentioned where you touched the on the fact that a 162 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: lot of these these knowledges are undervalued, right, and because 163 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: of who's creating them and who's producing them, it's like 164 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: not seen as important, it's not like scientific, it's not genius. 165 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: Not genius. Yes, and if we if anything with our 166 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: fem tech theme and content, we what we want to 167 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: establish is that women of color our geniuses are and 168 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: have been geniuses for many centuries. And I think also 169 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: like we bring our community with us, you know, like 170 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't see that from white men, and I don't 171 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: see that from like white women, like I see like 172 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: them like what is that word like nepotism, Like I 173 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: see that kind of like unfair ship where it's like 174 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: they the only reason they get ahead is because they 175 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: know people, not because they're actual genius. Lies where they 176 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: have the funds their idea exactly, but like us, like no, 177 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: we will bring our people with us. And I feel 178 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: like it's like almost commonplace now, Like every other day 179 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: you hear some like some stories, some you know, human 180 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: interest piece about oh, such and such third world child 181 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: learned how to create a helicopter out of cardboard, or 182 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: you know like such and such individual in in an 183 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: oppressed situation created like um, you know, like some crazy 184 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: invention where they could give clean water to their whole village, 185 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you see these examples, 186 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: A lot of young people young people of color, marginalized people, 187 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: black and brown people, Indigenous people who use like the 188 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: little resources that they have to do what you're talking 189 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: about exactly, uplift the community. You tech right in a 190 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: third world contest to uplift their community. This is a 191 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: really good transition into what I'm bringing today, which is UM. 192 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: This also did an article on her and her organization. 193 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: Her name is Marianna Costa and she's spewana Um. She 194 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: started an organization called Laboratoria and it began two and 195 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: a half years ago. And UM what they're trying to 196 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: do is give access to young women and teaching them 197 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: how to code. And what I really like about it 198 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: is that it's a six month training as opposed to 199 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: like two or three years, because that is so much 200 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: more accessible. Because I'm positive that these women while they're 201 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: training or they're in the six month course, they're also working. Obviously, yes, 202 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: so years it does not know that does not work, 203 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: like especially if you have a family support, especially if 204 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: you're think the one of the younger ones in the family, 205 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: so you're expected to work and give money back home 206 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So these women are being taught 207 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: to code, and they're you know, doing the damn thing 208 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: because they're after they graduate, right like like like they 209 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: have a like higher rate, you know. And I want 210 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: to say that it's expanded to Mexico and chilem And 211 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: it's just really dope because she like had a vision 212 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: and she was like solid that the women in her 213 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: community just weren't given access to things, access to certain resources, 214 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: not because they couldn't, you know. So she like took 215 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: it upon herself to teach young women to code, and 216 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,119 Speaker 1: she has like investors. Now she's just like really expanding 217 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: on what she's doing. And I think that's really wonderful. Yeah, No, 218 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: that's amazing, And I mean it's so true. It's like 219 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: the fact that women of color are underrepresented in science, technology, engineering, mathematics. 220 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: We believe, I believe it is completely antithetic a goal 221 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: to our history exactly. Look at like there's so many examples, 222 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: like look at our fen women ancestors, look at our 223 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: friend women ancestors. I mean when we talk about for example, 224 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: like if you want to talk about like Machupicchu or 225 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: like Aztec pyramids, right or Mayan pyramids, and you want 226 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: to talk about advanced societies and astronomy and all the 227 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: things that our people were practicing for centuries. I imagine 228 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: that our ancestors were living in a different sort of 229 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: historical context than we live in now, and that women 230 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: were able to participate in different levels of society in 231 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: ways that have been difficult for us to achieve today. So, like, 232 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: for example, I've seen a lot of conversations on Twitter 233 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: about how different minority groups will talk about, you know, 234 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: it's difficult to celebrate oh the first you know, African 235 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: Americans PhD In chemistry, or the first you know, Mexican 236 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: astronaut are the first such and such, you know, because 237 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: there's this assumption that our history has only been like 238 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: a few hundred years long, right, And so it's like, well, no, 239 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure that there were a ton of black astronomers 240 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: and you know, physicists before colonization and slavery, and there 241 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: were probably a ton of indigenous engineers, you know, and 242 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: scientists and librarians and all of these things before colonization. 243 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: We've been doing these things for a long time for centuries. 244 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: But post colonization, it's like we're starting from literally starting 245 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: from zero. That reminds me of that meme of it's 246 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: like me linking everything back to racism and colonization and 247 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: like that's literally, like I think about that all the time, 248 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, literally, that is the rule of so 249 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: many things that have gone wrong. So because of that, 250 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, like us who come from a long line 251 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: of geniuses. And I used that word intentionally, and I'm 252 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:02,479 Speaker 1: not exaggerating when I say women of learn historically our geniuses, 253 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, and I don't. I'm not going to use 254 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: a different word. That's the word. That's what we are. 255 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: So the fact that like we are, like fems are 256 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: more known for you know, beauty or cosmetology or nail 257 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: tech or you know, hair versus engineering, it's because that's 258 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: where we were allowed to channel our genius. Right that 259 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: reminds that's a really good um transition into our next topic. 260 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: We have so much to say about that, but before that, 261 00:16:34,480 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: I think we should go into a song break and 262 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: ship welcome back. We hope you enjoyed our song break 263 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: that was queen by Janelle Monet. UM. Moving forward, we 264 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: want to talk about the very accessible ways and how 265 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: fem tech has manifested in both of our lives. UM. 266 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: So we want to talk about like beauty and hair 267 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: and nails and all that kind of beautiful fem adornment. Um. 268 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: I think, like, like fem like there's so much from 269 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: phobia in and like that's why, like our fem tech 270 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: is undervalued, you know, because it's like not it's seen 271 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: as extra, it's frivolous, it's not necessary. It's in the way, 272 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: like the ship that people give me that I do 273 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: not ask for their opinion. They give me ship because 274 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: of my nails and their length. And I'm like, I 275 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: didn't ask you, and like I have been rocking and 276 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: curl like nails for years now, you know. And of 277 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: course I get my nails a break here and there. 278 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: But obviously if there are this length, like I can 279 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: get ship done. I can write a dissertation if I 280 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: wanted to, you know what I mean. I got through 281 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: my undergrad through them. I'm in my job, my big 282 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: girl job. Now I spend my monthly reports to my director. Yes, 283 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: you know, like they are not in the way. But 284 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: it's like, if you want to be quoted professional, you 285 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: can't have this kind of like long adornment, right, you 286 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: can't have your bold lipstick in a in a meeting 287 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: room with the executive director of or a funder of 288 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: your nonprofit. But watch me, I will you know, so 289 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: I think, like we just have so much to say 290 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: about like fem tech and like fem economics and like 291 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: them economy, you know, an entrepreneurship, and like especially being 292 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: from the hood or like living in the hood, your 293 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: family's from the hood. However like that may look for you. Um, 294 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: we can see like the way informal economy has manifested 295 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: and there's a market for like fem adornment, you know. 296 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And I mean it's so interesting because nothing 297 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: that women do that fems do is without some type 298 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: of a history or some type of a trigger, a reason, 299 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: a context and origin, you know, so like even just 300 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: you talking about nails, right, So why are we talking 301 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: about beauty? Well, because historically beauty is one of the 302 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: only accessible avenues for production, expression for careers that women 303 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: have had. So we jumped into it and have flourished. 304 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: And there's a science behind it, Like I'm telling me, 305 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: there's not a science between behind like getting the right 306 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: length of your acrylic the shape that yes, you have 307 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: to know what you're doing. They're using tiny machines and 308 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: drills and a lot of electronics that that that go 309 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: into it, depending on what kind of salon you're going too. 310 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: And like also if you think about like nail are 311 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: like where that originated from? Hello? Like no, not by 312 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashi and Kylie Jenner. No, they did not originate 313 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: that ship no way. But um, like even that, like 314 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: the folks that can that can create that type of 315 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: art on a tiny little surface, you know, it's brilliant. 316 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,239 Speaker 1: It's actually brilliant, and it's wearable. It has to be 317 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: somewhat durable, it has to be somewhat tough. Like there's 318 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: so many different elements that go into a set of 319 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: acrylic nails. Somebody told us actually shout out La la. 320 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: She told us about this like bougie nail salon that 321 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure many of you follow on Instagram, but I 322 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: will not name them. And she said she got her 323 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: nails down there, you know, paid the like expensive tag 324 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: basically the price for them, and within a couple of 325 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: days they all broke off, you know, and our twenty 326 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: dollar sets, Like how durable are they? You know? Very 327 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: extremely extremely yes? And actually speaking of now art, we 328 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 1: wanted to bring in some history is really important to 329 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: be intentional. So we were doing some research about nail 330 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: art and we knew that. You know, there's a lot 331 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: of different types of people that that do nail art, 332 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: that participated in nail tech. Nowadays, there's even kind of 333 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: like nail art like reality shows. There's like conventions, there's conventions. 334 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: It's a big industry. It's used eight billion dollars. I 335 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: think we read yeah, but some it's an eight billion 336 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: dollar industry. I read this article on this website called 337 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: take part dot com and um, this writer named Celestwang 338 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: did a story about the fascinating story behind why so 339 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: many nail technicians are Vietnamese. Right, so we know a 340 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: lot of nail technicians, a lot of people that were 341 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: in nails are Vietnamese. Are so our Asians somehow? Yeah, 342 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: api and uh so Celeste Wong did a story about 343 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: how this actress, Tippy Hedren was involved in working with 344 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: communities of Vietnamese refugees in California and basically bringing skill 345 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: and job training um to the different like camps where 346 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: they were staying while they were transitioning right from Vietnam 347 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: to American life. And so they were in refugee camps 348 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: and something that the women took to was nail tech 349 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: and working in nails. And according to this article that 350 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: we were reading um today the nail industry is worth 351 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: about eight eight dollars and about eight percent of nail 352 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: technicians in southern California are Vietnamese and across the US. 353 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: So here you have this history where the beauty, the technology, 354 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: the economy had. This had so much to do with 355 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: women of color in a state of being refugees, yes, 356 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: you know, and needing to survive exactly, like in a 357 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: state of emergency. Let's type of brilliance, like that creativity 358 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: had to come out like the ass that exactly, which 359 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: is a lot of where economy comes from. Like there's 360 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: a need, like you're surviving for your family, for yourself absolutely, 361 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: and I think of all like in my neighborhood, for example, 362 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of little salonasa, little beauty salons where 363 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: it's all Latinas Latino women you know who either they 364 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: run the space or they rent out booths to other 365 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: Latinas are Latino X people to work. And it's all 366 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: having to do with they're creating, they're providing a service, 367 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: but they're also feeding their families and their communities, right, 368 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: and it's all through beauty. And not only that, but 369 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: it's like think about the community that's created in these 370 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: like nail salons, beauty salons, Like it's cheese my hour 371 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: and so many ways. Like and it's also like your 372 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: venting session, like you tell them like about what's going 373 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: on in your family, and like maybe they hook you 374 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: up with somebody that they know because they know somebody 375 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: that they know somebody you know. And it's like also 376 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: another form of survival because more more than likely, like 377 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: you live in the area where you get your hair done, 378 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: you get your nails done. You know, I know that's 379 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: true for me. Um. And there's also like the informal 380 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: salons that exists, like in the garages and people's houses, 381 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: renting a room maybe to cut someone's hair. Right. The 382 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: gym that I go to, she like is creating because 383 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: she's also a hairdresser and like this nutritionist and she's 384 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: like now she they just moved locations and she has 385 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: like a big room where she's going to start to 386 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: do hair. Like she's like creating like something totally different 387 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 1: and totally brand new. You know, we'll not brand new, 388 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: but like in the sense of it's a gym and 389 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: hair salon. I think that's pretty cool. That is some 390 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: self care, self love right there. You know it really is. Yeah. Yeah, 391 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: And I even wonder, you know, like how many because 392 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: we can talk even about like feminists on a global 393 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: scale and global economies, So there are so many layers 394 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: to it, because like feminists is at once like constantly, 395 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: constantly like consumed and ob justified and used for purposes 396 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: that are not healthy for us, right like our images 397 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: and our bodies and and and all of that are 398 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: used a lot of times to oppress us. But when 399 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: I think we take our feminists into our own hands 400 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: and we're projecting it and utilizing it for our own purposes, 401 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: that's a totally different scenario exactly. That's when when people 402 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: want to say, like, oh, feminists, capitalists, it's so good. 403 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: It's so that because like you're spending to get something done, 404 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, you're by your shopping at the Flora, Like 405 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: what are you doing for the revolution? Like hold on, 406 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: you know what at that minute? Wait a second? Um, Yeah, 407 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: I think that's like a really really important part that 408 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: you're touching on in terms of like fem identity and 409 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: like once we're taking our identity into our own hands 410 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: and like using however that like fem adoration, like adornment 411 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: looks for you, and that type of fem worship for yourself, 412 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: Like it doesn't have to be makeup, It doesn't have 413 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: to be like this kind of that like everyone's adornmaant 414 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: looks differently, right and like for us, like this is 415 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: what it is, you know. And I'm even thinking, like 416 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: how if we're talking about what are you doing for 417 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: the revolution, how many who work in like a fem industry, 418 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: who cut hair, who do nails, who do makeup? I 419 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: wonder how many hundreds of thousands of dollars in remittances 420 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: are sent abroad, are sent back home and are feeding 421 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: families off of money that was made doing nails and hair. 422 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: You know, I like, I wish we had a number. 423 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: I wish we had thousands and thousands of dollars. Yes, 424 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: money on in babysitting, yes, you know, money off of cooking. 425 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: You know the types of technologies, the types of fields 426 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: that were always relegated to and live it did too, 427 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: But we're contributing and also owning it and then making 428 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: it like you're you're you're making it your own business. 429 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: You're becoming an entrepreneur entrepreneur, so that's you're like taking 430 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: it into your own hands and you're like, this is 431 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: what I'm good at, and then this is what I'm 432 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: a genius at. Yes, so I'm going to make a 433 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: business off of this, exactly. And one of the best 434 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: examples of that is you tell us is Madam C. J. Walker. Yes, 435 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: Madame c J. Walker, also known as Sarah breedlove Um. 436 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: Madam c. J. Walker was her public name, her business 437 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: name Madam I Love It, Madame diosm exactly. So she 438 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: was an African American entrepreneur. She was a philanthropist, she 439 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: was an activist, and she is known as the first 440 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: female self made millionaire in America. Dope, Yeah, she did it. 441 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: She created her empire and her millions off of beauty 442 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: products for Black women. Right. She saw a need. She 443 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: saw that there were not enough products specifically targeted towards 444 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: Black women for their skincare, hair care, nail care needs. 445 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: And she created products that were healthier than what was 446 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: out there, that we're safer than what was out there. Definitely, 447 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: there had to be chemistry involved, there had to be 448 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: science involved, and the marketing and the entrepreneurship, you know, 449 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: and so Madam C. J. Walker is just one of those, 450 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: another a genius, you know that. I don't think it's 451 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: celebrated enough because she was working in beauty and beauty 452 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: for black women especially so especially it's maybe not something 453 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: that everybody hears about or knows about or sees that. Yeah, 454 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: sees it as like some type of tech like stem 455 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: but literally like folks that create their own makeup, like genius, 456 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: like women of color that do that, because there are 457 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: a lot of like women of color and like black 458 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: owns makeup brands and like actual genius, because there's a 459 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: science behind it. It's not just some like let me 460 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: put this in a really pretty package and sell it 461 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: for thirty dollars or however much. You know, It's like 462 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: there's actually a science beanted to get the right shade. 463 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: And especially if you're working with our community, you know, 464 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: like that my red isn't going to look good on 465 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: everybody else, you know, but like working with all these 466 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: different skin shades and like taking into it, taking into 467 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: account that you want to be inclusive, you're serving like 468 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: a very broad community. Like that's that's a science, like 469 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: to find a read that somehow looks good on everyone, 470 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: like how literal science, And I mean we can we 471 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: can talk about fem tech and talk about social media, 472 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: yes right, I mean we engage in tech every day, 473 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: all the time, multiple types of tech on multiple platforms, 474 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: multiple devices. I mean this podcast is fem tech because 475 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: we have struggled, and we have we have really really 476 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: had to learn how to use a lot of things 477 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: just to create this podcast, you know, because not because 478 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: we like I don't want to know about these things, 479 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: but it's like they weren't taught to us or either 480 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: we thought maybe it wasn't as important, or we're like 481 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: we get frustrated. No one was patient with us to 482 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: teach us how to fucking code, if you know what 483 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean. Like even creating on website has been difficult, 484 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: and you and I have been like in the process 485 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: of doing that for a few months now. We're working 486 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: on you know, everything is for us has been like 487 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: we're literally learning as we go as we go, and 488 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: like I think not only this segment or just as 489 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: as a whole, like the podcast is fem sex, but 490 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: even like what you and I do on social media, 491 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's all fem tech. I mean engaging 492 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: with your computer, engaging with your phone, engaging with the microphone, 493 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: with the equipment, you know, with the recording software that 494 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: we use. All of that is fem tech because we're 495 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: using it for fem purposes exactly like we're doing it, 496 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: so it's fem tech. And like that's my thing is, 497 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: I don't care if white people or men find what 498 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing to be valuable or important. You're not the 499 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: barometer for you. It's not for you. You don't decide 500 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: what is useful and what is not. You don't decide 501 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: what is brilliant and what is not a because you 502 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: have trash taste and I don't trust it, number one, 503 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: you know. So there's that a number two. We know 504 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: that what we're creating is brilliant and it's interesting, absolutely, 505 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: you know. And so we're gonna put ourselves in the 506 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: in the in the tech category, right And that's new, 507 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's a new kind of thing 508 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: that we've been talking about that maybe we didn't expect 509 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: this podcast to turn to go on that route. But 510 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: like the more, like we had said in the beginning, 511 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: like the more that we've been thinking about, like what 512 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: fem tech is like, the more it relates to so 513 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: many things in our lives. Yeah, And I'm sure like 514 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: as we continue to think about this topic, as we 515 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: continue to move through life we hear about family histories, 516 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: We're going to see more examples of a fem tech 517 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: like in everyday life and in our upbringings and our 518 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: family histories. Absolutely. Yeah, I'm interested to hear like or 519 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: to see more. And I've been thinking about this a 520 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: lot because i feel like I don't really have any 521 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: type of knowledge about like my Mexican side, which is 522 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: something so new for me because I grew up really 523 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: close to my mom, so my my mom's family, so 524 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: my Mexican side. But the more that I think about it, 525 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: like my grandparents are both dead now, you know, and 526 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: we don't have any type of like family history, any 527 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: type of ancestry because my grandparents died where he was 528 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: a baby, so and the more that I yeah, I 529 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: don't know, Like I've been thinking about it a lot lately, 530 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I feel like I don't have any 531 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: history in that way, and that's kind of stressing me out. 532 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: But with my dad's side, there's so much history because 533 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: we're all here and we're all fucking really close, and 534 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: it's annoying sometimes, but I know that there's so much 535 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: like stem and tech in that side and my dad's side, 536 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: and I'm really interested to like think about this more 537 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: and developed the second before, I mean the other day, right, 538 00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm like in my grandma's house and she I walking in. 539 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: And my grandma, who's like eighty three years old, she's 540 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: a little old lady. She's from Mexico, and when she 541 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: came to the US, she was sixteen. And the first 542 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: thing she did when she came here was working people's houses, 543 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, and she raised kids for white people and 544 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: clean houses. And she went to night school and eventually 545 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: she got her a A her associates degree, and she 546 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: worked in accounting. She was an accountant. Grandma Natcha was 547 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: an accountant for many years. And then she would sell 548 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: like you know, like princess house, like crystal, So she 549 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: was hustling. She was doing a lot of she would 550 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 1: sell tupper wear, all kinds of stuff. But she has 551 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: a very mathematical mind. The other day, I'm walking into 552 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: the house and I see her at the table and 553 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: she has all these papers spread out on the table, 554 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: and I look and she is just adding up all 555 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: these numbers and doing all these calculations. And she's like 556 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: doing all this math, like big numbers, and I'm like, Grandma, 557 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: what are you doing? And she's like, well, I don't 558 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: have an adding machine, so I do it all in 559 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: my god stop, Yeah she does so, like all of 560 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: her bills, her taxes, everything, it's all with a pencil, 561 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: just by hand. That's how it's been done. That's how 562 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: it's been done. And so you have this woman who's 563 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: just this tiny Mexican lady. She's great, who's awesome, and 564 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: who has done so much in her life, and she 565 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 1: is so good with numbers and just in her head. 566 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: And a lot of us I feel like we were 567 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: raised on calculators. Oh yeah, we haven't. We don't have 568 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: that anymore. Yeah. For me, Like also, like math has 569 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: been such so traumatic for me for many of us. 570 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: Get me started, Oh my god, low key. I think 571 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: the reason I picked my college majors because I didn't 572 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: have to take math literally, which also stifled me in 573 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: so many ways because I was like, I wanted to 574 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: avoid a trauma, so then I went for something else 575 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: and actually was really traumatic. And my college experience was 576 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: sucking awful with the department I was in. But that's 577 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: the story. But um yeah, so for me, like it's 578 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: like so many of us, like young girls, especially of color, 579 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: it's like we're taught that we're not good at math, 580 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: Like girls are naturally not good at science. That's what 581 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: we're told. Like girls are bad at science. We're better 582 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: at the humanities, are better at reading and writing. So 583 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: that's what that's the career that you should stick to. 584 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: And a lot of times it's not just like necessarily 585 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: the messages that are given to us, but like how 586 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: are our math and science programs at our schools? You know, 587 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: Like we were talking about this the other day. When 588 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: we were first coming up with this idea. When I 589 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: was in eighth grade, we had four math teachers because 590 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: they just kept getting cycled out and they would quit 591 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: and they would leave. Towards the end of my eighth 592 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: grade year, rpe coach was the math teach. But that's 593 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: because they just needed someone to watch it. Oh my god, 594 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: what happened to me one time in high school the 595 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: soccer coach became like the sub math teacher. She was 596 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: teaching us, you know, and it's just like I know 597 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: that that has an effect. Of course, that has a 598 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: negative effect. I was most traumatized by math in high school. 599 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: I was taking calculus and the teacher was this white 600 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: guy I shall not speak his name, like he's horrible, 601 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: and I just have so many memories of just sobbing 602 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: like in his office like all the time. That was me. 603 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: It was so my third year of high school, I 604 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: had a nun, this wide nun teacher, and she literally 605 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: failed so many people, like it became a thing where 606 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: people were like petitioning to like remove her from the 607 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: department or from what being a math teacher. And she 608 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: was so mean, Like I would cry all the time. 609 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: And I'm positive she knew that I was like a 610 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: little queer. I'm sure of it. So you think that that, 611 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: I think for sure. I mean my high school had 612 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: four hundred people. It was small, it was sucking tiny. 613 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: Everybody knew, like there weren't very many of us that 614 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: were queer and young, you know, in high school. So 615 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure she knew. And yeah, math is traumatic. I 616 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: would cry all the time, like I would like, yeah, 617 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: I would hyperventily, like I would get anxiety going into 618 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: her classroom. That's horrible. I knew I would fail her class. 619 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: Like every time I took a test, like I was like, 620 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: it does a matter what I do, I'm gonna fail. 621 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: That was my mentality, you know. For mass it was 622 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: really shitty. Um. Yeah, So I like hope that one 623 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: day with all these brilliant women that are doing like 624 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: the coding and like and they're doing it for young girls, 625 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: Like I hope that one day young girls like feel 626 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: like so empowered by STEM and also art. Yeah, you know, 627 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, I just thought of something. But you know, 628 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know how we hear how back 629 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: in the day, like historically, like to prevent pregnancy, like 630 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: women would just put like a little stone. Yes, you know, 631 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: like I feel like that that is like reproductive tech 632 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: like back in the day, Like that's just like ancient, 633 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: which is also being usual. I can't say it's used 634 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: for like birth control, but like also you see like 635 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: this this um interest in like Yoni eggs just like 636 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: healing crystals in general, I feel like they're like the 637 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: conversation right now, which is really good for folks that 638 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: are using it correctly. Um. But yeah, like a Yoni 639 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: egg is like used to like strengthen the pelvic floor like, 640 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: which is really interesting, and it's it's also like a 641 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: quote ancient, you know, ancient, yeah, but still genius. Yes, 642 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know, there's just something about like I 643 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: don't know why people hate like on nails so much, 644 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: like on not long nails, because I cannot. When I'm 645 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: wearing my acrylics. I feel like a fucking like bionic woman. 646 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: I am the bad. I feel like an android. I 647 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: feel like Cindy Mayweather, like, oh my god, we didn't like, 648 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: we didn't really like talk about this too much. But 649 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: I remember you sent me, like, I want to say, 650 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 1: months ago before fem said, maybe even before this podcast 651 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: was even an idea in our minds. But I remember 652 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: you sent me something about a woman that like put 653 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: her like metro card or something in her nail so 654 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: she would just scan her nail right right, right right 655 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: for like when she had to get on the metro 656 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: or whatever. I saw it on Facebook somewhere floating around. 657 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: But see, things like that were brilliant. Girls just come 658 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: up with ship. But you know what a lot of times, 659 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: when like women of color, especially when black women like 660 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: innovate like that is considered like, oh, that's ghetto or 661 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: that's ratchet, you know, like always it's in the negative. 662 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: When no, it's innovative. That is so genius because if 663 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 1: you think about like all the time you'd save, like 664 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: say you have the big old purse, right, or you 665 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: have something and you have to surge and whatever you're 666 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: running late genius, it's in your nail. Like absolutely that 667 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: literally at hand already. Absolutely, No, we innovate all the time, 668 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: like just as women and like as fams, there's always innovation. 669 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: There's always new ship, Like there's just everywhere there's brilliance. 670 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: I also like create or invent. I don't want to 671 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: say invent whatever. I find ways to make things that 672 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: I can't do without my name with my nails happen. 673 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? So it's like, yeah, I'm creating 674 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: another form of doing something that don't tell me that 675 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: I can think. That's where I feel like a bionic 676 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: woman because I'm like the nail has now become like 677 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: this functional like extension of my hand. Yeah it's fucking cool. 678 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: It's oh my god, Yeah, it's really cool. Transformers like 679 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: you know like fems like that's that's for me. I'm like, 680 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: that's the ultimate transformer. The fem is a transformer like 681 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: in real ways. Yes, I agree we are, and something 682 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: that we haven't really talked about, which we're kind of 683 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: coming towards the end, but you know, I guess we 684 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: can kind of summarize some of our main points right 685 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: of why we wanted to talk about fem tech, and 686 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: this is going to be an ongoing conversation because we're 687 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: going to present fem tech in a workshop as a 688 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: workshop form right eventually, and we'll tell you more about 689 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: the different events we have coming up it. What we 690 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: want to relay in all of our conversations of fem 691 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: tech is how historically women in fems and our tech 692 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 1: and our innovations right have been channeled into areas that 693 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: have been most accessible to us. For example, beauty, sewing, weaving, 694 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: home economics. We don't even really touch on the brilliant 695 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: of weaves and how that is actual skill in art. 696 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: We can save that for the future before another time back, yeah, 697 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: for sure. And then the other the other idea that 698 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: we really want to push is that fem tech is 699 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: undervalued and has been for a long time, and one 700 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: of the reasons is due to what fem phobia fem 701 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: phobia always in tech, fem phobia in general, in school, 702 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: in life and education. Right, if a little girl has 703 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: an idea, like an engineering idea and it involves baking, 704 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: that might get shot down, right versus the little boy 705 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: who wants to do something with cars that might be 706 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: considered more engineering oriented or oriented, you know, um, and 707 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 1: then them tech and economics like intermingled with entrepreneurship. Yeah, absolutely, 708 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: there's I mean we touched a lot about that about 709 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: like the like informal economy, informal businesses, you know, um, 710 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: creating like your own beauty salons, your own type of 711 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: like giving No I don't want well, yeah, I guess 712 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: you kind of aren't giving back to your community in 713 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: that way because you're creating this like communal space where 714 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: folks can you know, practice our self care if that's 715 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: what it is for them, or their adornment, their worship, 716 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: whatever it is for them. You know. However, manifest um, 717 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: there's so much fem brilliance and that there's a whole 718 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 1: is a whole lot. And I want to be clear, 719 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: we're not saying that the only fem tech or the 720 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: only fem brilliance is in beauty and now we're saying 721 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: the actual I mean, we're saying that there's so much more, 722 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: but there's so much like where it has been accessible 723 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: and before it's been channeled into and we want to 724 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: celebrate it exactly. We're exactly and or it. But also 725 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: we recognize, like using our examples in the first part 726 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: of this, like the ways that it's actual, you know, 727 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: being like produced in like actual STEM ways like bio 728 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: you said, like biotech in biotech. Yeah, so yeah, we 729 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: are not just like hair nails and makeup. We are 730 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: so much more that happens to be how we adorn ourselves, 731 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 1: which is brilliant and beautiful and just as brilliant as 732 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: you know STEM because it is it is STEM. Yeah, 733 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: so recognize that, appreciate, recognized, give credit where credit is 734 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 1: due always and when you get your nails, then pay 735 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: your nail techna. Those are geniuses who are creating functional 736 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 1: art on your person. You know, yes, always took well. 737 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 1: Any type of service that you're getting done, any type 738 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: of always well, because not only did they work on you, 739 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: but they're going to about so many other people it 740 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: might not tip them well, which they probably don't. So 741 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think about the support people who are working, 742 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: who are working hard. Support support women of color, immigrants 743 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: or immigrants, queer folks, and people that are creating their 744 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 1: people that are creating support them absolutely. Yeah. So we 745 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 1: want to hear what you think about from tech um, 746 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: and we want to hear about it in UM in 747 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: a very real way because we will be at which 748 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: is March eleventh, Yes, five to eleven pm. Yes, go online, 749 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: look up tickets right because you don't have to get tickets. 750 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: We're also doing a ticket giveaway we will give you UM. 751 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: We will be posting on the Instagram about that and 752 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: about the times for our workshop and all of that. 753 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: So we'll be posting on our different social media so 754 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: we can stay in touch about the logistics of the 755 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: workshop that we're doing. UM. What are we doing as 756 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: our workshops. It's really exciting, We're really excited. UM. We 757 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: have a few different events coming up this spring, but 758 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: this one I'm really excited about because at via head 759 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: we will be recording a live slash like fem Knowledge Share, Yes, 760 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 1: and we'll be talking about fem tech. So if you 761 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: really enjoyed this episode and you like you're thinking about 762 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: your own fem tech and like all that's manifested in 763 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: your in your life and for your family, Like come 764 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: and share with us, tell us we're you know, we're 765 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: going to be recording a life, so we really want 766 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: to hear from y'all and what you think. Yeah, because 767 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, like the few examples that we 768 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: were able to give from our life and our research, 769 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm positive that there are a lot of more heads 770 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: out there, that there are a lot of people out 771 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: there fems with just like a multitude of examples and ideas. Absolutely, 772 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited. So yeah, so look at her to get 773 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: giveaway that we're going to be participating in for Viva 774 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: la mo heead will post announcements, we are posting. We're 775 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: gonna be posting announcements and updates about all of our 776 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: events like as they happen. So make sure that you're 777 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: following with us as always, you know. Um, you can 778 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 1: listen to us on SoundCloud on iTunes. Leave comments, comives 779 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: like things, share things. We love reading all the comments 780 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: and messages you'll leave. It's really really exciting. It's really exciting. 781 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 1: We get so high, Like when they have new comments, 782 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: we send like screenshots to each other. By the way, 783 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: so seeing like maybe they're not going to read it now, 784 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: we read it and most likely we respond because we 785 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: always respond, which we try our best to always respond. 786 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: I think what we want to do is we want 787 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 1: to ask you guys, if you have examples of fem 788 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: tech in your life. If you are a fem techie yourself, 789 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 1: we're femtex yes, if you're a fem techi, that's the 790 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: hashtag we want to use, fem tech fem tech e 791 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: comment on our posts. If you want to repost anything 792 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: onto your profile, make sure you use hashtag look at 793 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: our radio, hashtag femtech, hashtag brown girl hour, hashtag brown 794 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 1: Girl our um and share with us the tech that 795 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: you were brought up with, the fem tech that that 796 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: the fems before you utilize. We want to hear all 797 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 1: about it, absolutely, especially if you can't come out to 798 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: about head, we'll be We'll we'll post something that everyone 799 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: can have a conversation about it. So thanks again for 800 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 1: tuning in. We will see you next time they see 801 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: us