1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: This feud is part of our local law here. I mean, 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: people know about it. 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: I think they were hot heads, and I think they 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: were willing to engage in a feud. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: At the drop of the hat and somebody's honor had 6 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: been impugned. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: These are two powerful families, two big families, and if 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: there was an affront against one of them, then that's 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 3: against all of them. And so here we go. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 2: I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a true crime author and the 11 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: host of tenfold More Wicked On exactly right, And this 12 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: season is called blood Feud because it's about a deadly 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: feud between two very angry families in eighteen sixties Virginia. 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: The Clements were wealthy, but the Witchers were powerful. 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: Witchers are wild. These young men, they were wild. I 16 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: don't know what it is in the DNA, but we 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 3: don't behave well. 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: Clements were not in substantial people. They were well to 19 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: do people. I think the Witcheres in this instance may 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: have had more influence and more of an intimidation factor. 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 2: This season is about a poison marriage. 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 4: Maybe Victoria did dance with other men. They described her 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: as frivolous and fun loving, and why did she marry 24 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 4: him to begin with, he. 25 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: Sort of began to treat her like, you'll do what 26 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: I say, you don't need the house without me looking 27 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: at you, and all that sort of thing. 28 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: It's about how the relationship between the families turned from 29 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: admiration to resentment to violence. Only one hundred and sixty 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,919 Speaker 2: years ago, people just killed each other over public insults. 31 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 2: I mean, that's basically Twitter, and it's about finding out 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: the truth about your family, even if it's not good. 33 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 4: I have lived this, and I have never heard any 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: of this. I never heard anything about abuse. I never 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: heard anyone say one unkind word about James Clemmer. 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: And after more than a year of threats, the feud 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: ends in a vicious massacre that would change both families forever. 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: I don't think anything good came out of it for anybody. 39 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: And why would it. 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 4: I think that's the way my parents felt about it, 41 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: and the way my grandmother and my great grandmother felt 42 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: about it. 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: A bad marriage and with the specific allegations of that divorce, 44 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: it was just a pot waiting to boil over and 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: it did. 46 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm Kate Winkler Dawson and this is season five of 47 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: tenfold More Wicked. Season five of Tenfold More Wicked premieres 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: on Monday, March seventh on Exactly Right. Subscribe now on Stitcher, 49 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you like to listen.