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And 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: we were told looking, and I said, how's business, Matt? 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: Because to be in a liquor store on the weekend 21 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: and there's nobody inside. He goes, ah, you know, wrong, 22 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: business is way off, you know. He goes, it's really 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: I haven't had a great weekend since fourth of July, 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: which and I looked at him and I said, is 25 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: that normal? And he goes, well, I don't know. And 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 2: the classic line right from Matt over there at ma 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: Wall Liquors, he said, you know, he said, you would 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 2: think in the state of the world and the state 29 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: of the economy and the state of everything else, he goes, 30 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 2: you're either one of two things. You're either depressed or 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: you're celebrating, and either way you're drinking. And I said, 32 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: you know, that's that's a fair point. I never kind 33 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: of thought of it that way. And he said, you know, 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: there's just insanity around in all of everything that we 35 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: see going on, you know. And I said, let me 36 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: tell you this story. And the story, as I related 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: to Matt, is this one. I had a twenty twenty 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: gmc denali good segue, huh. I had a twenty twenty 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: gmc denali in the shop this week and it was 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: an intermittent no crank. Something about this truck raised my 41 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: eyebrows right away when I first had it brought in. 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: This is the second time it's back in. I actually 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: I sort of had a comeback. It came in two 44 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: weeks ago. The customer dropped it off and he said, 45 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: I need a starter, And I said, how do you 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: know you need a starter? And he said, because watch 47 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: and he crawled under the truck. He had a hammer 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: in his pocket. It was the funniest thing. He had 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: a hammer, right, and you know and he says, Ron, 50 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: get in the truck and push on the button. I 51 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: push on the button and he hits the starter with 52 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: a hammer and the truck starts and I shut it 53 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: off and it won't start. And I say, okay, I'm 54 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: holding the button down and he hits the button with 55 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: he hits the hammer with a button. I'm sorry. He 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 2: hits the starter with the hammer and it starts. He says, 57 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: I want you to put a starter in the truck. Well, 58 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: but we should know. He says, I want you to 59 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: put a starter in the truck. He goes, that has 60 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: worked on every vehicle I've ever runed since the seventies. 61 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: He's an older fellaw and he said, my dad taught 62 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: me that trick and yeah, you know you kind of 63 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: can't argue that, right, you say, you know, you tap it, 64 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: it starts. It's a bad start, he said. I know 65 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: it's a starter because this will be the fourth starter 66 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: my truck has had. And I'm handing it up. I'm 67 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: going it's a five year old vehicle. It's a twenty 68 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: twenty gmc denali. Right, He's put this will be the 69 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: fifth starter, and I'm thinking, how is that possible? Every 70 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five thousand miles? We put a starter in 71 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: the truck, like, it doesn't make any sense to me, 72 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: but listen, you know, it was reasonable to ask. It 73 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: was a reasonable thing to do. I put a starter 74 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: in the truck, went out and got the best brand 75 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: new and you know what new means in my world, 76 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: starter I could find, all right, just like all the 77 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: other brand new GM starters I could find. So so 78 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: we put a starter in the truck, started right up. 79 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Didn't need the hammer, I said, Chris, you're good to go, baby, 80 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: all right, I said, it starts, you can leave the 81 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: hammer at home. He goes, I'll keep it in the 82 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: back seat, you never know, just in case he goes. 83 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm getting used to it. This is the hammer I 84 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: bought for the truck. All right, So you know, a 85 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: couple of days goes by, three, four days goes by, 86 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 2: and somewhere around the fourth or fifth day, I said, oh, 87 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: I'm feeling brave. Let me just text Chris and say, hey, 88 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: by the way, how's the truck? And he writes me 89 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: back and he says, I think you jinxed me. He goes, 90 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: it just didn't start. I'm in my driveway at my house. 91 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: It didn't start. He said, I tried the hammer trick 92 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: and it didn't work. Oh wait, it started, he said, 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 2: I'll be right over. He comes over, He gets under 94 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: the truck, we shut it off. It won't start. He 95 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: taps it with a hammer. It won't start. I just 96 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: looked at him. I said, you realize we're into something different. 97 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, I get that. So you know, it's 98 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: a crazy business. How do we go from one extreme 99 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: for the next to the next. You know, we're going 100 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 2: to be on starter number six in five years and 101 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm looking for what did everybody else miss? Remember? As 102 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: Matt at the liquor store said, it's an insane world. Well, 103 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: auto repair kind of epitomizes this right, it really is crazy. 104 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: So I go through the truck. I can't reproduce it 105 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: because that's the other problem. Right as soon as it 106 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: was the next day when I came in the next day. Now, 107 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: I can't duplicate the problem. As far as I'm concerned, 108 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: the truck's acting normal. So I, you know, due diligence, 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: Tell me what's absolutely what can I verify absolutely positively 110 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: as good. I tested the battery, I voltage dropped, tested 111 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: the cables. Now, when I tested the battery, I used 112 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: the industry standard algorithm style mathematical calculator battery load tester, 113 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: And I say battery load tester sort of tongue in 114 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: cheek because it doesn't really apply a load. It's taking 115 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: a surface charge reading with a minor of very small. 116 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: I believe they apply two aamps of a load or 117 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: some ridiculous amount of ampergs to it, and they make 118 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: a mathematical calculation whether the battery is good or bad. 119 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: And this battery came back one time it came back 120 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: good load charge needs recharging. The other time it came 121 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: back as good. By the way, load testing batteries and 122 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: GMC trucks is absolutely ridiculous. Because you can't get the 123 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: clamps on the cables. But that's a different conversation. We're 124 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: going to have that at some point in the future, 125 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: I don't know where. And I went through everything I 126 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: could go through as far as looking at inputs. I'm 127 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: looking through, you know, all the controls. There's transmission switches involved, 128 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: CM involved, body computer, there's an engine control computer involved. 129 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: There's an anti theft process because the vehicles are so 130 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: worried about people stealing it, which I'll tell you the 131 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: story about the guys that were just indicted in New 132 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: York City this week for stealing Hondas by cloning the 133 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: keys and rewriting the VENs and then selling them as 134 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: legitimate cars. So those anti theft percussions were taking are 135 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 2: really worth it, you know, nineteen sixty two Chevy, a key, 136 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: a purple wire, a battery, a starter, turn it, boom, 137 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: We're done. You know, if they want the car, folks, 138 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: they're just going to jack it up in total thing away. 139 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: So it came down to where I couldn't reproduce any 140 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 2: of this. I got out my Opus scan tool because 141 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: this was the second dilemma I had. I hooked up 142 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: my snap on my hotel, my Launch, and a couple 143 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: other scan tools I can't even think of, and they 144 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: all kind of told me gibberish. Nothing made any sense 145 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: because they were either inaccurate, they were missing the piece 146 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: of information I was looking for. And I went to 147 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: the standard, because OPUS is the standard, all right, And 148 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: sure enough, inside OPUS, if you go look at park 149 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: neutral switch, it's listed. However, we later found out and 150 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: talking with tech support after some research, that the park 151 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: neutral switch position is an invalid parameter inside the scan 152 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: tool and you don't use that the way. GM decided 153 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: to do it because technology the more technology is better technology. 154 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: When the vehicle is in park, there is a multi 155 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: sensor switch inside the transmission trans one trans to and 156 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: it shows duty cycler percentage. So if in park, trans 157 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: one reads twenty five percent, trans two has to read 158 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: seventy five percent in reverse. If reverse reads sixty percent 159 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: on pin one, it has to read forty percent on 160 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: pin two. It always has to total to one hundred percent. 161 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: They're using percentages played against the Hall effect style two 162 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: cents or switch inside the transmission nineteen sixty two Chevy 163 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: Purple Wire ignition key starter solenoid battery we're good, but 164 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: we're trying to keep the car from being stolen. We're 165 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: trying to make this as as complicated as we possibly can. 166 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 2: In the end, and Brian and Opus was just great. 167 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: I got to give him kudos here. 168 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: Man. 169 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: We had a couple of less we were looking at 170 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: how ridiculous this whole thing is. And in the end 171 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: Opus gave me the information that I wanted to say. 172 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: This truck is operating as designed. It's normal. But we 173 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: had an instance where during cranking we went into a 174 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: cranking clear flood mode. I saw the battery voltage drop 175 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: under nine and a half vaults. It really went to 176 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: nine two, and then it stopped cranking, and I said, 177 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: but the battery is good in my mind, how can 178 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: that be? Well, long story short, I ended up pulling 179 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: the battery out, put it on the bench, and I 180 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: got out my old carbon pile tester, which is the 181 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: old school from forty years ago. They tell you not 182 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 2: to use it. They say it's not accurate, they say 183 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: it shouldn't be used on a modern day vehicle. Nobody 184 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: really gives me a good reason why. And sure enough, 185 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: standing voltage twelve point one, bring it up to one 186 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: hundred and eight am, so it's replicates the amount of 187 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: load of starter would put on it on average, and 188 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: battery voltage held at ten to two. Well, gee, that 189 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: battery is okay. I sat there and I waited a minute, 190 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: and I went back did the same test. Battery voltage 191 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: went to eight eight eight six eight two seven and 192 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: a half and the machine shut off. Well, I guess 193 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: that's a bad battery. So I had an intermittent battery 194 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: as an issue. Wow, now how does that relate to 195 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: when it came in tap the starter? The starter would 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: engage and crank the engine over. Remember Matt at the 197 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: liquor store today, right ron, it's an insane world where 198 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: people should be drinking. You know, maybe I know a 199 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: few mechanics that probably are capable of it. Because I'm ready, 200 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: I you know, I may have picked the wrong you know, 201 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: maybe this is the time to start. I In the end, 202 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: I put a battery in it because I knew that 203 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: was bad. And I also changed the starter and I'll 204 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: tell you why. Because the starter did some funny things 205 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: while I was going through testing. It made a couple 206 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: of noises I didn't like, and it just reacted differently 207 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 2: than I expected, and I went down and I said, 208 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: I've got to try a different brand. Now, I'm going 209 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: to tell you a secret. All right, GM starters are good. 210 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sold because why did we 211 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: go through five and five years? I went out and 212 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: got a rebuild. I put a car Quest Advanced, right, 213 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 2: I put an advanced Auto parts starter in this truck, 214 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: which some people might say, Hey, that's a step down. 215 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: I disagree. Car Quest has a very very good rotating 216 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: electrical category there. They make some of the really good 217 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: alternators that make some really good starters. We've had very 218 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: very few problems with them. Put that car Quest that advance. 219 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that advanced Auto parts starter in that truck 220 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: with a fresh battery. It's gone five days. So this 221 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: is not on my doorstep on Monday. I'm good. And 222 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: all I can say is, yes, what's that line? It's 223 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: a mad mad man, mad world. Maybe we should bring 224 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: it back. That was nineteen sixty two, another year, same 225 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: as the Impala eight five five five six nine nine 226 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: zero zero. I'm running eighty in the car. Doctor, come 227 00:11:48,679 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: on back, let's talk. Let's go to Thomas in Arizona. 228 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: What's going on? Hey, Thomas. How are you pretty. 229 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 4: Good, sir? 230 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 2: What's going on? What can I do for you? 231 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 5: Oh? 232 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: I've had this issue with this axle wrap thing since 233 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 4: twenty twelve when I bought it. Okay, you know, you 234 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: come to a stop sign and you let your foot 235 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: off the break and thump. 236 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 5: It was really bad. 237 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: It felt like somebody hit. 238 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 5: Me in the rear end. 239 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: Okay. 240 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: Well went on for a long time. So then I 241 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: went on Tacoma World. They said, this will take care 242 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: of that thumping. You get overload springs. They at our 243 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 4: fifteen hundred pounds, and you don't put them where they're 244 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: supposed to go behind the axle. You put them in 245 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: front of the axle. Well, lo and behold. It worked 246 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 4: for about two years. Right then the straps on them 247 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 4: they're real tiny, they're tin They're just to align it. Well, 248 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: they started to twist, can bend because there's a lot 249 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: of I guess pressure on there. So I took it 250 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: to Toyota. They said, tuck, you gotta live with it, 251 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 4: but no damage will happen. There was a bulletin or 252 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: something on it. Well, I've gone through leaf springs, several 253 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 4: of them, and the things started to sad. So this 254 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: Toyota won't do anything after market. So I went to 255 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: this other guy that did after market stuff. He put 256 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 4: traction bars on. He said it was that take care 257 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 4: of it. It did not. We even did the drive shaft, 258 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: new springs, leaf springs. I even put bill Stein shocks 259 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: around it. And then I even to stop the sad, 260 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 4: I put on airbags. 261 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: So are you saying, hold on a second, Thomas, Are 262 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: you saying that as you apply the brake, when you 263 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: let off the break, the rear axle is physically moving 264 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: or as the brake releases, it causes the axle to 265 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: wind to like load front then back. It's like you're 266 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 2: you're twisting the axle. In a sense. 267 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: It's a thump, not as bad as it was, but 268 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: it's still there and now it's coming back. So there's 269 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 4: times I'll raise the air bags up and down. It 270 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: goes away for a few days. When I pull a trailer, 271 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 4: I don't really feel it four wheel drive. 272 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: Nothing is is this a standard height? To call me? 273 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: You haven't modified anything. 274 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 4: Oh other than just the air bags? 275 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: And how much higher is it with the air bags? 276 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 2: But the air bag solves it right now? 277 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: It kind of plays with it. It's good for a 278 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: couple of days, then it'll come back. I raised it 279 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 4: because it'll They say, when you have an empty bed, 280 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: go to five pounds. Then when I put my trailer on, 281 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: I have to raise it to thirty. And it's a level. 282 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: But I tried putting eleven in and it's like it's 283 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: still there, not as much. Because you don't want to 284 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: put too much here, you'll be tearing stuff up. That's 285 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 4: what I was told. 286 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you, Mike, I'm gonna 287 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: go with my gut on this one. Thomas. I haven't 288 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: seen this particular problem, all right, but I'm gonna tell 289 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: you the fact that I haven't heard about it doesn't 290 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: mean it doesn't exist, because it does. Obviously you're here 291 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: talking to me about it. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell 292 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: you that you're you're in an area where it doesn't 293 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 2: seem like anybody's got a solution. If you followed what 294 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: they said out on a form and it didn't work 295 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: for you, then you're into something unique. The reason I 296 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: asked about is it's standard height or not? Is do 297 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: we have an issue where the suspension height is altered 298 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: and pinion angle is incorrect in the rear the point 299 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: where the drive shaft and the rear end physically meet. 300 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: Now you purchased the truck used correct right? If on 301 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: the ground level height or whatever level height is is 302 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: for this vehicle, if you were to look at the 303 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: front of the rear axle, the front of the differential, 304 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: is it level? Is it pointed down? Is it pointed up? 305 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: Where is it. 306 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 6: That? 307 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: I don't know? 308 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: Right? Did somebody change the rear because how do we 309 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: know this is a stock two thousand and three rear? 310 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: You bought the truck? Uh, ten years later, nine years later? 311 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: A lot can happen. You probably bought it with higher 312 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: mileage on it too. 313 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: I'm guessing I bought it from a dealer, right, and uh, yeah, 314 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: it's high mileage. 315 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: Right, Well, it probably was then, you know. And then 316 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: the other question I've got is if you put it 317 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: in neutral and coast to a stop and apply the 318 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: brake and let off the brake doesn't make the noise? 319 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: Does it give you that same sensation? 320 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: Very funny you would say that because I was going 321 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: to do that today, because. 322 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm looking to see is it is it? Does it change? 323 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: When the diff is not underload or as much load, 324 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: because it almost sounds like the rear is is wound 325 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: up and then bang. It releases when you when you 326 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: change its its positions, so to speak, by stepping on 327 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: the brake and then letting off the brake. So that's 328 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: what happens, right, I want you to I want you 329 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: to check two things. I also want to make sure 330 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: is the frame intact. There's nothing cracked, rusted, broken, mounts 331 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: are in place. All the body mounts are where they're 332 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: supposed to be, All the body mounts are tight. I 333 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: want to cover the basics, but I also want to 334 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: know pinion angle. I want you to do some research 335 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: on that, and I want you to try the neutral 336 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: step on the brake release thing. Call me back, we'll 337 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: talk some more about it, and we'll keep going with it. 338 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 2: Eight five five five six nine nine zero zero run 339 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: an Ady and the car doctor coming back right after this. 340 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: Don't go away. 341 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: Promises streets to the open roll tonight. 342 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 6: We'll give you wrong, right, he's a car doctor. 343 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: Carr advice, don't ride, thank you? Ban the band? Does 344 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,239 Speaker 2: the band have a name? Tom? Is that is that 345 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: the Ken Martin band? I think so. I think it's 346 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 2: the Ken Martin ban. It's the Ken Martin band. He 347 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: never told me the name of the band, so the 348 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: Ken Martin Band. 349 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 4: Ken. 350 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: Would you sit down please, I want to tell you 351 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: real quick before we go anywhere. We had occasion this 352 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: week in the shop we were doing rear breaks on 353 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 2: a twenty nineteen. Well it turned out to be a 354 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. That's a whole nother story for Transit two 355 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: point fifty. And it is the stupidest design in the 356 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: world because you have to take the axle outs, take 357 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: the bolts out, push the rotor forward, turn it and 358 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: pull it back off the hub, and it makes a 359 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: bloody mess. It's you've got rust everywhere and dirt everywhere 360 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: and contaminate everywhere. So we just got you know, you 361 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: don't think you can reinvent the mouse trap, right? CRC 362 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: they're break Clean. They have a they call it the 363 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: CRC Pro Series break Clean Holy Cow, harder spray, better spray, 364 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: not splashy, but just more force and it's all encompassing. 365 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. We use less brake Clean than 366 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: we normally would have just using a singular can. And 367 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: if you're if you're doing this kind of work, and 368 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: you need a solvent cleaner, something to clean away the 369 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: rust and the crud and you know everything else that 370 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: that CRC Pro Series Break Clean It's it's really good stuff. 371 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: Go take a look at it. You'll find it on 372 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: their website. I just wanted to mention it a little 373 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: tip from the base. Let's go to John and Connecticut. 374 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: Oh three Jetta and oh boy, I love these kind 375 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: of cars and problems. John, what's going on? 376 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 5: Hey, Ron? I did an engine swap on a three 377 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 5: PDI first engine I didn't get to do to timing 378 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 5: belt and what so got a donor car with one 379 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 5: hundred and twenty nine thousand on it swapped engines. So 380 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: my snap on Trenton, I adjusted the ignition or ignition 381 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 5: UH injection timing out right and it shows from eighty 382 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 5: five degrees to I think one hundred and ten. And 383 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 5: by the time I got it with Inspec, I checked 384 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 5: my cool and temp and I was up at one 385 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: forty five. But I also looked at my intake air 386 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: attempt which showed seventy seven and yesterday. 387 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: Was yesterday was yeah, probably in. 388 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: The stop in the fifties, Yeah, I think right. 389 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like something. It sounds like one of 390 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: the sensors. Let me ask you this, when you did 391 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 2: the swamp, what your vehicle did it come from? 392 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 5: Oh? 393 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: Three three three? Okay? 394 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 5: Yeah? 395 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: And what sensors did you use? The ones that came 396 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: in the second engine or did you take them out 397 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 2: of the first. 398 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 3: Uh? 399 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 5: The only sensors I use or whatever that were on 400 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 5: that engine. So the map and the master aflow that 401 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 5: was in the car. I still used the original to 402 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 5: that car. Okay, golal plugs to the donor engine. Uh, 403 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: that's the other thing I gotta check. I got to 404 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 5: see if I got a back goal plug because on 405 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 5: initial startup on cold, it'll it'll run rough. 406 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: But right. 407 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 5: So so this morning I threw the scanner on it. 408 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 5: I was checking the intou temp and it showed forty 409 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 5: two degrees cool and temp showed forty two. Fuel temp 410 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 5: showed forty two. 411 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: Was it forty two degrees in Connecticut this morning? 412 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 5: Well my garage said forty seventh. So I was like 413 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 5: five degree. 414 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would it's five degrees, but I would say 415 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: that's you know, it's pretty close. Yeah, So that's pretty close. 416 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 5: And I went to the injection timing thing again and 417 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 5: it showed showed me being at thirty eight degrees and 418 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 5: the scanner said the ideal target sixty. 419 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: So that's I guess, well, and then my and then 420 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: my second question is because what you're really saying, let 421 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: me let me, let me talk to your brother or 422 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: brother here, John, what you're really saying is your you're 423 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: questioning is the trite and accurate? 424 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: I guess because everything I seen online, everybody's using the 425 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: Volkswagen bag thing. It shows a graph. 426 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 2: The vagcom tool right is phenomenal. I bought when I 427 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 2: bought when when you see how it takes a little 428 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 2: bit of getting used to because it's it's geared more 429 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: towards a Volkswagen tech if if if you if you 430 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: can get the language and using blocks and everything to 431 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: find your data. I haven't used mine in a while, 432 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: and it's it's a boy. You can really sing with 433 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: that tool on volkswagons. I I questioned my triton on 434 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: Volkswagen too. For the record, all right, it's not. It's 435 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: not my favorite tool for that car line, certain things, 436 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: but not something like this. It's one of the reasons 437 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: why I have a vag coom right. The vagcom scan 438 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 2: tool because I just questioned its accuracy and the problem 439 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 2: you will find and scan tool manufacturers argue this with me, 440 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: is you know how many old three volkswagons are left right? Right? 441 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 2: How many twenty three volkswagons are on the road? A lot? More? 442 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 3: So? 443 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: Do you think they gear their tools towards the newer 444 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: vehicles and you know the older stuff, well they're going away. 445 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: What difference does it make so you find yourself buying 446 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: more than a few, Yes, sir, Yeah. 447 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 5: I still have the old brick. Is the old brick 448 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: capable of doing the injection timing on that? Would that 449 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 5: be a better tool to use? 450 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: I you know what, you won't know until you try listen, 451 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: And it's not a question of is it better you know, don't? Don't? 452 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: What's what's the you know, analysis paralysis? If you can 453 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 2: plug it in legitimately and look up the vehicle, right, 454 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: try it? What's the worst that happens? 455 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 456 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: Right, as long as as long as the tool seems 457 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: like it's responding to the vehicle. The other question I've 458 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: got is you know which injectors did you use? The 459 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: ones that came in the in the door engine? 460 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 5: Yes? 461 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: Could we have a spray issue. 462 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you this. With the donor vehicle, 463 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 5: that thing would start up within like two seconds, idle 464 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 5: per everything. 465 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 2: Oh you ran the donor engine. 466 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, I bought a whole other Donor car. 467 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 2: Okay, got it, got it. So it's it's something in 468 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: the connection too, or the or the process of what 469 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: you're doing. So then let's let's let's get let's make 470 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: sure set up is right. How I would handle this. Listen, 471 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 2: I'll tell you the story this way, all right. I 472 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: had a I'm all gonna tell that to you quick. 473 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: I had a nineteen transit. Customer said, customer has two vehicles. 474 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: He's got a nineteen Ford Transit and a twenty Ford Transit. 475 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: You know, he had to buy one three months apart 476 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: just to drive me nuts. Okay, like, just buy two. 477 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: You need to get it over with. He tells me 478 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: he's bringing the nineteen ron. Made the mental error of 479 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: not verifying that right. So I looked up parts for nineteen. 480 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: I brought the nineteen parts in. He brought me the nineteen. 481 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: I'm doing real breaks wrong, brake pads. Long story short. 482 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: After three turns around, I went the dummy. I said 483 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: to myself. Is this the nineteen It wasn't it was 484 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: the twenty change four change the brake pads from nineteen 485 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: to twenty. My point is there's always a logical reason 486 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: when you sit down and think about So let's get 487 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: pump timing to the point where were content that it's accurate. 488 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: All right, you know it's a diesel. You know how 489 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: long did the vehicle sit while you were waiting to 490 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 2: do the engine? Any length of time? 491 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 5: Probably about a year. But I gotta also tell you 492 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 5: with the original engine, at startup, it would run. It 493 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 5: would almost like you would turn the key off. It 494 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 5: was so quick, right, It would run like that for minutes. 495 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: So is it smooth out? 496 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: So if it's a year, could we have some kind 497 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: of growth or algae in the fuel system in the tank? 498 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 5: Right? 499 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: Diesels are prone to that. Go out to hot Shot Secret. 500 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 2: I gotta run them up against the clock. But go 501 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 2: out to hot Shot Secret. Go out to their website 502 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: hotshotsecret dot com. Take a look at take a look 503 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 2: at stiiction eliminator, and take a look at some of 504 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: the other things they have as fuel system clean up. 505 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: Depending upon your condition, where you're exactly at and see 506 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: and and you know, to try that one of those 507 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 2: and to use that stuff, to use stitional eliminer on 508 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 2: a regular basis. I can't tell you enough good things 509 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 2: about it, but to do the pump timing, get that 510 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: square away in your head, and then come back and 511 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: talk to me and we'll cover the rest of it, 512 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: all right, kiddo. 513 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 5: Okay, thank you very much. 514 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: You're very welcome, sir. You'd be well. I'm ronning Andy 515 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: and the car doctor. We're back right after this. Don't 516 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: go away. Hey, let's let's go see David Pennsylvania. David, 517 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: look to the car doctor. How can I help? 518 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm having some issues in min two? Got it? 519 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: I try to start it. It just can go on 520 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: to dash and says engine system failed or starting system failed. 521 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: But its it cranks over right, No. 522 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 6: No crank, okay, go straight to the little computer on 523 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 6: the dash here. And I tried reading up on a 524 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 6: little bit. Some people thought, yeah, maybe starter or something 525 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 6: like that, but I also read we're pultiably the remote 526 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 6: remote start. If fitch failed or shorted, it might do that. 527 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 6: I've had a remote start in since twenty thirteen. 528 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because depending upon how let's let's talk generically, 529 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: because I don't know how yours is wired. The one 530 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: of the things I dislike about add on accessories, And 531 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm saying that as a person who has add on 532 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: accessories and vehicles. Okay, so I know it's sort of 533 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: a necess are evil, all right, It's kind of like 534 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: some days you just have to stop at a McDonald's 535 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: and get a cheese burger. You're not sure why, but 536 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: you just you have to your body screaming for it. So, 537 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 2: having said that, how it's wired, the care and consideration, 538 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 2: all right, is it possible that when they tapped into 539 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: the wiring harness In simplest terms, if there's a feed 540 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: from the main computer that goes to the ignition switch, 541 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: that goes to the relay that goes to the body 542 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 2: computer that goes down to the starter, how they tapped 543 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 2: into that wiring. They usually have to break it at 544 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: some point and put the remote start module in series 545 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: in the circuit. Right, So did they do a poor 546 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 2: sowder job? Did they have a do we have a 547 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: bad connection? Do we have you know? So there's a 548 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: couple of things we have to see. 549 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: Now. 550 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 2: If we were standing at the shop and we had 551 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: a scan tool on it one of the things I 552 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: would go look for. Does the does the vehicle show 553 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: me it reckgnizes park neutral And twenty twelve we were 554 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: still using a park neutral switch. Does it show that, Yes, 555 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: the trans is in park? Can I put it in reverse? Yes, 556 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: it says reverse. Does it go into neutral? Yes, it's 557 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: Oh wait, it doesn't say neutral. Why doesn't it say? 558 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: You know, I'm looking for inputs that type of approach, right, so, 559 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 2: and that's something you will not see with OBD two. 560 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: So don't look for it. You need a year make 561 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: model scanner, all right, or you need a year make 562 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: model capable scanner so that you can see you know there, 563 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: because listen, there could be four hundred and fifty PIDs 564 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: pieces of information for that vehicle. It's it's crazy. Some 565 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: vehicles today have eight hundred pids's and more. So you know, 566 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: these are the kind of things we look for. The 567 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: one thing I want to ask you to do, all right, 568 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: just on the chance you know where the battery junction 569 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: boxes under the hood. It's probably right on top of 570 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: the radiator, that long rectangular box with fuses and relays in. 571 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh look at go find make sure you 572 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 2: find the right one fuse twenty seven. Okay, all right, 573 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: it's a it's a twenty am fuse. Fuse twenty seven. 574 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: All right, when you're sure you've got when you're sure 575 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: you got fuse twenty seven, pull it out, Look at it. 576 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 2: Are the contacts burnt? Are there? Are there? Are there 577 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: two black marks? Brown marks on the fuse blade? 578 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 4: Yes? 579 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 5: I didn't see that, now all right? 580 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 2: If if oh you did you you looked at twenty seven? Okay? 581 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: Are you going to replace it with another fuse? 582 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: Okay? Okay? Because yeah, there's well and then twenty seven 583 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: fuse twenty seven. There's a bulletin fifteen dish oh one 584 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: three seven that talks about relocating fuse twenty seven to 585 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: a different part of the box because they're worried about 586 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: the electrical load on the circuit. But I don't I 587 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 2: don't think you have that problem. All right, But if 588 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 2: you break out a wiring diagram, you'll be able to 589 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: see should you have power at twenty seven? At what point? 590 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 2: And do you or don't you? And that's that's fuse 591 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: twenty seven is going to be part of this, okay, 592 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: all right, So the next step would be a wiring 593 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: diagram where am I missing power and voltage? Listen, it's 594 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: easy enough crawl under the truck. Do you have power 595 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: at the solenoid wire? Feeding the starter? Start as a starter, 596 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: it's an appliance right plug in, plug out. But I 597 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: think you've got to go through some of the other 598 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: things we talked about first in order to get to 599 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: a bottom, bottom end conclusion. Do those things, Dave, call 600 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: me back. I'm happy to talk to you, and we 601 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: can go a little deeper if we have to, but 602 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: that'll at least get you started. Eight five, five, five, six, seven, 603 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero, run an ending of the car. 604 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 2: Doctor coming back right after this, and we're back. Let's 605 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: see if was it abe in Pennsylvania? The generally just 606 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: spoke with if he's still listening regarding the F two fifty, 607 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: The other thing I thought about is, while you're at 608 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 2: the battery junction box under the hood, go look at 609 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: fuse number thirteen. It's a thirty amper And go look 610 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: at fuse thirty one. Is it thirty one? In my head? 611 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: Yet it's thirty one? Are either of those blown? Get 612 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: a wiring diagram and trace it out. But there are 613 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 2: three critical fuses twenty seven thirteen and thirty one in 614 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: that battery junction box that could either be burnt or blown, 615 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: and that'll give you a direction on which way to 616 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: diagnose as well. So that's just very very important. I 617 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: want to finish here, Okay, I want to leave you 618 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: with this thought. I was at the gym this week 619 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: and Krista came up to me and she was asking 620 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: about tire pressure monitoring systems because the TPMs light came 621 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: on in her car and she said, I don't know, 622 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: I guess the math didn't click. And what I said 623 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: to her was or TPMs light was on, but the 624 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: tires still looked okay. You can't judge a tire by 625 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: kicking the sidewall. If it's a run flat, the sidewall 626 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: is going to be rock card. So don't assume that 627 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: just because the tire still looks okay, that it's not 628 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: low on pressure. You have to physically check pressure. But 629 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 2: it's a direct relationship between the placard on the driver's 630 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: door jam and the weather as to how that TPMs 631 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 2: system is going to work. Assume that the placard you 632 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: open up the driver's door, there's a little sticker there. 633 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,479 Speaker 2: It'll tell you front tires, rear tires. What the pressure 634 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: should be. That's a sixty eight degree day. That's the 635 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: rule of thumb we go by. So it's sixty eight degrees. 636 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 2: If it says thirty five pounds, when the system loses 637 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: fifteen percent, okay, when it gets down to thirty one pounds, 638 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: it's going to turn on the light. By the same consequence, 639 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: if you're living Arizona and it's one hundred degrees, okay, 640 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 2: you've got to compensate for pressure and adjust accordingly because 641 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: it changes with temperature. For every ten degrees of change, 642 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: tire pressure goes up or down. So keep that in 643 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: mind as I explain to Christa, and hopefully he got 644 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: it and you did too. So that's about it till 645 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 2: the next time I'm running Ay and the car doctor 646 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: reminding all of you as I'm putting Tom Ray to 647 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: sleep good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See uh hey, 648 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 2: he's a car doctor. 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