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Speaker 3: Sing again, and.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to Cowboy Logic.

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Speaker 2: Everyone.

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Speaker 4: I'm Donna Fidusha, He's Don Newan. And where's the pencil?

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Speaker 5: I'm looking right here.

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Speaker 4: There's the pencil, Okay, the number two pencil. This week's

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Speaker 4: show is going to be different than any other show,

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Speaker 4: whether it be Cowboy Logic or any show you're going

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Speaker 4: to see network on a major network, because we are

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Speaker 4: going to give the voice to those who had no

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Speaker 6: That's right, for the past three and a half plus years.

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Speaker 6: As you all know, because we've talked about this repeatedly.

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Speaker 6: testify under oath to what they know. Now, what's going

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Speaker 6: to be interesting about this show and it is very

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Speaker 6: unique because quite honestly, ladies and gentlemen, this is the

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Speaker 6: last segment that you're going to see Donna and I.

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Speaker 6: What's unique about this show that Donna was speaking about

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Speaker 6: with regard to network television is that we are actually

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Speaker 6: These guys have asked for three plus years, four years,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't realize that obviously because their defendants they

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Speaker 6: Well, they finally turned it over to them when they

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Speaker 6: Well, many of them paid lawyers three hundred dollars an

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Speaker 6: So these guys sat in C two B the DC

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Speaker 5: They watched footage.

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Speaker 6: None of these guys had ever had to watch this

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Speaker 6: So they start laying in their cells there in their bunks,

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Speaker 6: It's a start, but what you're gonna see is that

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Speaker 4: However, the bottom line and the bigger picture is it

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Speaker 4: But you've got a nation that's been fed a line

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Speaker 6: What do you need to do after we go to

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Speaker 6: the next seven segments of Cowboy Logic.

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Speaker 5: Are not scripted. We thought about how do we take two.

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Speaker 6: have a stack of Dan's got a stack of notes,

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Speaker 6: you know, a foot high, shoved into Manila envelopes. They

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Speaker 4: Well, they're subject matter experts. They've had four years to

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Speaker 4: when he's attacked? Look up Color Revolution. I always keep

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Speaker 4: it handy. The Color Revolution often nonviolent protests, but not

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 6: Or to change one change the direction of one state department? CIA,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, usaid. That's what they do to change governments

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Speaker 6: All right, we're going to go to break in about

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Speaker 6: We're going to send you the real deal. The real

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Speaker 5: Needs to be had with these two.

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Speaker 6: Gentlemen, Dar Caldwell, Dan Caldwell, Oh yeah, share the living

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Speaker 6: daylights out of this, Dan Caldwell, United States Marine Jeff

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Speaker 6: mcallup US Army Special Forces. Doesn't get any better than that.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't get any better than that. Ladies and gentlemen, get

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Speaker 6: January seventh story.

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Speaker 5: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to Cowboy Logic. My name is

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Speaker 1: Daniel Caldwell and I'm a United States Marine.

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Speaker 7: My name is Jeff McKellop, retired US Army Special Forces,

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Speaker 7: and we are here to talk to.

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Speaker 5: You today about January six and we have been.

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Speaker 1: No you know, yes, it's been two years since we've

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Speaker 7: It has been man, we had a celibratory cupcake, man,

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Speaker 7: about three months because they were hard to get a

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Speaker 1: It's it's good to see bro.

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Speaker 5: Too, Man, it's good.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: It is man. Dan and I were bros. We got

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Speaker 1: And this is it. And what better way to do

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Speaker 1: which is to be heard and to speak the truth

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Speaker 1: about what we saw. And in order to do that,

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Speaker 1: just real quick, this is kind of what happens when

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Speaker 1: need to start preparing for your case. This is all

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Speaker 7: B vised is that Dan and I when we got

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Speaker 7: to reiterate, We've been waiting four years to tell you

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Speaker 7: people exactly what happened. I have been called trader, terrorist, insurrectionist, communist.

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Speaker 7: All these names are racial slurs. Because of the information

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Speaker 5: Be done with it.

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Speaker 7: Well, we're done with it, and we're done with them,

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Speaker 7: and now it's time for the truth, and we're going

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Speaker 1: We would not be here without the hard work of

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: The only information that we had was our indictment and

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Speaker 1: And so let's go back to where we've were, like

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Speaker 7: when we started mixing and matching, and we got with

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Speaker 7: other guys that were going down the same road that

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Speaker 7: were with the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys and

446
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Speaker 7: Kim find out there were about six of us that

447
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Speaker 7: actually came together and started building the matrix, as it

448
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Speaker 7: was called, of the videos that.

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Speaker 5: We were watching.

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Speaker 7: So we went back and started studying our cases and

451
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Speaker 7: we started looking at what was going on, and then

452
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Speaker 7: we matched it up with the video and what the

453
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Speaker 7: imperfections that we were finding in the video. You know,

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Speaker 7: the how and the what of what we did and

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Speaker 7: what they did. Now you need to understand the why

456
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Speaker 7: I did things go down the way they did. You

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Speaker 7: have to watch the before, during, and the after product

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Speaker 7: of the action that took place. And that's when it

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Speaker 7: was just it started opening up to us and we

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Speaker 7: started looking at it into a military perspective.

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Speaker 1: You know, it came down to whenever you're starting to

462
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Speaker 1: look at it that way. It came down with the

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Speaker 1: actual prosecution brought up in a couple of the status

464
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Speaker 1: hearings was they had given us all access to this

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Speaker 1: database is evidence dot com and they actually labeled it

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Speaker 1: these guys are in c TWOB have created a college

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Speaker 1: of collusion because we were seeing things like you were

468
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Speaker 1: saying that were within our case but you can only

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Speaker 1: search so much. Your case is based off this timeframe

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Speaker 1: of a window that you did this, and this is

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Speaker 1: what they're coming after you for. But once you've kind

472
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Speaker 1: of addressed your case and you've gotten all the information

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Speaker 1: that pertains to you and doing all the searches for

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Speaker 1: the hour you were there, whatever you're finding yourself. It

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Speaker 1: comes down to is like, Okay, well I'm now going

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Speaker 1: to go help Jeff Year. I'm not gonna go see

477
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Speaker 1: if because I remember seeing Padilla. I took a picture

478
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Speaker 1: in Padia get pushed downstairs. I was right there and

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Speaker 1: let me go and love this thing. Next you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm down a rabbit hole of somebody else's case. Because

481
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Speaker 1: of the stories were the same. It was the cops

482
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Speaker 1: beat up on somebody. I responded, and the people that

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Speaker 1: we were dealing with and see to be that we

484
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Speaker 1: all worked with seemed to be veterans, and we all

485
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Speaker 1: had that initial instinct to just be like, go, something happened.

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Speaker 1: This is not right. This is what I was training.

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Speaker 1: You know, just this this, this is not right. And

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Speaker 1: you responded to it, and it was what you're starting

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Speaker 1: to see. You start seeing a vast picture of not

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Speaker 1: just the area you're in, but the whole line, the

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Speaker 1: whole Lower West Terrace. And that's what it comes down to,

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Speaker 1: Jeff when we talked about I've never had training in

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Speaker 1: this stuff. You know, you've had training and in this

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So you started seeing things in the

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Speaker 1: crowd based off how you have trained before and what

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Speaker 1: you were trained to.

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Speaker 7: Look for, right, and then you started to see the formation.

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Speaker 7: And like I've always like we've always said together, is

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Speaker 7: that you never forget the training. You have been trained

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Speaker 7: in certain things in the military, and that thing comes

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Speaker 7: to pass later on. Never ever forget your training. And

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Speaker 7: we started seeing the imperfections and the similarities within the

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Speaker 7: force that was aggressing against the civilians, and we were

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Speaker 7: watching their body postures and why they were doing the

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Speaker 7: things they were doing. But they were being triggered for

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Speaker 7: no reason whatsoever and forcing violence upon innocent civilians.

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Speaker 5: I e.

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Speaker 7: The woman that was in front of me when Glenn

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Speaker 7: Lambardini beat that woman three separate times, throwing her through

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Speaker 7: the air, her small body, an elderly woman. I AH

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Speaker 7: and Lieutenant Petera moments before that, sprayed her directly. It

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Speaker 7: was like two feet away with mace and the woman

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Speaker 7: was blind and after yeah, and then they hit her

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Speaker 7: three separate times. After they propped her back up, They're like,

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Speaker 7: what are you doing? And that was when it triggered

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Speaker 7: the crowd. And I wasn't the only one that went forward.

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Speaker 7: There were about fifteen other people that stepped into the mix.

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Speaker 7: And that was around two twenty twenty five, right before

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Speaker 7: the entire West Terrace collapsed due to Captain Augustine's actions

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Speaker 7: with the CS grenade and the facilitation of lack of instruction.

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Speaker 5: It's funny how it goes down that other road.

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Speaker 1: It's funny how you say lieutenant and captain or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's the officers. I think it's very important to understand

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Speaker 1: that J six had started. Let me get this why

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Speaker 1: you're in You're starting to see things. You're like, man,

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Speaker 1: this isn't right. Where are the warnings? Why are they

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Speaker 1: not telling people to disperse? You know, you start understanding

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Speaker 1: that where there's no de escalation. And I've said it before,

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Speaker 1: is like these officers that have perpetrated these on the

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Speaker 1: crowd when they first got there. You had Glover, you

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Speaker 1: had Harrington, you had too, you had Hawkins, and you

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Speaker 1: had Bagshaw. All of them had stowed up and the

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Speaker 1: first thing they did when they hit the deck was

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Speaker 1: attack the crowd.

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Speaker 7: Tao Tindall, Cresmin Horros, Bagshaw, Augustine Edwards, Riley Lambardini, Smiley, Williams,

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Speaker 7: and Smith Unfolds the most heinous officers out there of

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Speaker 7: teams fifty four, sixty four and seventy four of the MPD.

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Speaker 7: This is the why you need to know why, the actions,

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Speaker 7: the how and the what took place.

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Speaker 5: This is key evidence.

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Speaker 7: And just like you just said, I'm going to caveat

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Speaker 7: on that, you have to watch them when they come

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Speaker 7: up and take up a position. Let's start with the

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Speaker 7: Capitol Police and their posture when we first got there,

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Speaker 7: and then when I was one of two hundred and

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Speaker 7: fifty on the southwest side of the terroris to come

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Speaker 7: up there, I didn't touch a single thing. There were

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Speaker 7: people freaking out, but there were only four Capitol Police

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Speaker 7: standing there. And once the crowd got up to about

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Speaker 7: twenty five ish, they're like, they whispered into the mic,

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Speaker 7: they're coming. They all four took around and ran left

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Speaker 7: the bicycle racks, left their batons, left everything there and

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Speaker 7: ran away. And we when we made up our made

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Speaker 7: our way up to the south, the south side of

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Speaker 7: the western terrace. There was a natural rock wall brick

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Speaker 7: wall there with two entrances into the side where you

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Speaker 7: go up to do the inauguration, and then you have

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Speaker 7: the scaffolding. There were no police officers there. I take

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Speaker 7: that back. There were about ten maybe, and they were

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Speaker 7: still walking, not running, walking down the steps underneath the scaffold.

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Speaker 7: When people were running up, they got so far up

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Speaker 7: to the steps that they finally started pushing them back.

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Speaker 7: Remember that part you want to jump in at any time.

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Speaker 7: Bro the uh they pushed them all the way back

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Speaker 7: and this is this is the why they pushed them

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Speaker 7: all the way back to the edge of the steps

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Speaker 7: and stopped. There was a natural civilian uh uh, black

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Speaker 7: railing there that was about waist high.

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Speaker 5: That was a natural barrier.

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Speaker 7: Why they did not push them all the way off

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Speaker 7: the steps while they still had the upper hand. Somebody

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Speaker 7: told them to stop. Somebody told them not to do anything.

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Speaker 7: And I'm gonna mention some names of the people that

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Speaker 7: were in the control tower. Get ready, because you're about

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Speaker 7: to hear yourself.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's save that for a little bit. Let's

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Speaker 1: come back to coffee. So you know, we started looking

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Speaker 1: at the college inclusion. We start working together and everybody's

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Speaker 1: just started like, you know, you're starting to build a case,

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Speaker 1: all right. So once you start seeing things, you start

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Speaker 1: identifying things in the crowds, things the cops are doing,

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Speaker 1: and they're triggering people, you know, so like you're saying,

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Speaker 1: they triggered people. So whenever you have the the officers

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Speaker 1: and then when you're watching these videos and the officers

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Speaker 1: that first show up, you were a sergeant. If if

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Speaker 1: one of your troops and you're training somebody and they

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Speaker 1: see you do a certain thing, they're gonna imulate what

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Speaker 1: you do, right, So if you were escalating the line officer,

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Speaker 1: thing exactly didn't happen. What they did it was like

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Speaker 1: they saw the incident. Commander Glover, they saw Captain Harrington,

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Speaker 1: they saw Lieutenant Hawkins, they saw Sergeant Towell. All four

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Speaker 1: of those people eds all come down and the first

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Speaker 1: thing they did was attack the crowd with pepper spray

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Speaker 1: and mass spray. And one guy actually laughed at the

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Speaker 1: guy he said, ha ha ha, he sprayed. Harry Jon

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Speaker 1: had the forty six. He sprays he gets the back

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Speaker 1: of the Capitol Police guy side of his face. He's like, whoa.

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Speaker 1: He looks back and he sees the cop and he laughs.

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Speaker 1: He goes spray him again, and next you know, Harry

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Speaker 1: just sitting there's just smiles and chuckles and just sprays

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Speaker 1: another guy for no reason.

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Speaker 5: Towel's running around just days people. But hey, man.

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Speaker 7: I got two c ecms. Look at me, man, this

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Speaker 7: is cool. Hey, how many ecms did you get today?

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Speaker 7: Like he's hanging out at a gas and sip on

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Speaker 7: a Friday night talk talking about chicks. Man, It's just

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Speaker 7: if I was a private on the line and I

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Speaker 7: had a certain situation and I looked to the mine

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Speaker 7: left and right, and I see my captain or my

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Speaker 7: team sergeant in the mix. I'm gonna go harder. And

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Speaker 7: it spread just like wildfire over the tops of the trees.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 7: And it was game on after that until they lost

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Speaker 7: complete control of everything. And then you had officers acting

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Speaker 7: independently of each other. So we'll get we'll get into

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Speaker 7: that more.

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Speaker 1: Here's kind of comeback from break. But kind of the

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Speaker 1: end this thing on this segment is, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: talked about watching the videos and the College of Collusion,

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Speaker 1: and it's important kind of remember that because when we

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Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna talk about identifying the videos a

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Speaker 1: little bit more and what we.

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Speaker 7: Actually identified under undercover agents in the crowd crisis actors, instigators, agitators,

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Speaker 7: and motivators.

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Speaker 5: All right, never forget the training. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: See you're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll grab that. Hello, everybody's day in Caldboro. Kevin,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cowboy Lodgic. You know, I just want

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Speaker 1: to take another moment to express the gratitude for us

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Speaker 1: being here today and just the sheer understanding of how

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Speaker 1: important this is that you know, Calboy Locker hosts Donna

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Speaker 1: and Donna have given us this opportunity. They have helped

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Speaker 1: us travel across the country, me from Texas, you from California,

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Speaker 1: and then from Colorado here to have this opportunity to

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Speaker 1: speak to you, giving up their seats as hosts for

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Speaker 1: this show for this one, you know, opportunity to get

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Speaker 1: what we want to say out and that we felt

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Speaker 1: it was important. So I want to give thanks to

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Speaker 1: you guys. This would not happen on any other show,

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Speaker 1: I think, than in any kind of part of any

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Speaker 1: any nationally broadcast media show. So thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, and I want to throw it back to Jeff. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: we're kind of still we were talking about Evans dot

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Speaker 1: Com college and collusion, and let's talk about what happened

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Speaker 1: after we were so successful in coming up with information

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Speaker 1: and start siminating to our lawyers. In the status series

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Speaker 1: that we had had started to change. You know, more

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Speaker 1: bond hearings were coming up because of stuff we were finding.

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Speaker 1: It's like, look, this is what really happened. This is

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Speaker 1: what they've been saying is not true. This is what's happened.

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Speaker 1: So that was the College of Collusion and building this

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Speaker 1: little database we've we had, and let's talk about what happened.

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Speaker 7: So in Serier School Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape se R.

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Speaker 7: Serier School, they teach you to get your information out,

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Speaker 7: let people know that you're still alive. We were going

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Speaker 7: through a pretty rough time to say the least, but

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Speaker 7: it was Pow level three Pow camp Man. He was

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Speaker 7: unbelievd by this, the beating. So but they teach you

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Speaker 7: get your information out by whatever means available, let people

660
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 7: know that you're still alive and that why you were there.

661
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 7: So when we stumbled across just vast amounts of information.

662
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 7: It was unbelievable. When we were trying to tell our

663
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 7: attorneys about it, I started writing these things down and

664
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 7: sending them out into letters to anybody that would listen

665
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 7: to me, because my attorneys weren't. And the next thing

666
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 7: I know it, here come the FBI. And in all

667
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 7: the years of that facility since probably like nineteen forty

668
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 7: nineteen fifty, all the decades that facility has been there,

669
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 7: they'd never seen the FBI come in and raid somebody's sell.

670
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 7: They pulled me out of my cell, handcuffed me to

671
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 7: the railing like a dog and a search and took

672
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 7: anything that looked like a piece of paper had any

673
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 7: writing on it whatsoever.

674
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: You know, it was kind of real quick to say.

675
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: It was kind of weird because the people that were

676
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: out before this had happened were out on their normal

677
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: schedule time, and it was odd that they were kind

678
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: of all kind of putting their cells before their time

679
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: was up. So I didn't really till back in until

680
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: hindsight twenty twenty that that whole incident that something was

681
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: about to happen.

682
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 7: Right, they corral you up and put the dogs back

683
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 7: in the pins before they come and take one out

684
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 7: because they don't want any dog fighting going on.

685
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 5: But the point of the matter.

686
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 7: Is is that the FBI came, which was an unprecedented event,

687
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 7: never seen before by any of the staff, because they

688
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 7: told me about it. After it was all over with,

689
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 7: pulled me out, handcuffed me, took everything I had. Shortly

690
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 7: after that, they shut the telephone off, intercepted all my

691
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 7: incoming and outgoing mail, and cut every piece of communication

692
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 7: off that I had, took my tablet and my black

693
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 7: tablet that I was watching movies on at the time,

694
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 7: and so everybody was coming up to me, and even

695
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 7: the guards and they were like, Jesus, what happened? What

696
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 7: did you do? What did you do? I'm like, I

697
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 7: don't know, man. I wrote some letters to some people

698
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 7: and the next thing you know it, we hit the

699
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 7: nail on the head with the information. That's the only

700
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 7: thing I could think of shut me down.

701
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: You used to call those something very special, and it

702
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: was meant something to you. Those are your message in

703
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,240
Speaker 1: a bottle.

704
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 7: Those were my messages in a bottle. Because I'm I'm

705
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 7: alone on this island and you are sending your information out. Man,

706
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 7: You have to get your message out to anybody that

707
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 7: would listen to you. And I started receiving a ton

708
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 7: of fan mail, both of us did. We got tons

709
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 7: of fan mail and I was writing anybody that would listen.

710
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 7: Apparently the FBI were listening to the Fascist Bureau of Intimidation.

711
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Because you know, every every letter that we got in

712
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: and sent out and every phone call, and it was

713
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: even this way in the BOP we were put on

714
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: special monitoring, and even the DC jail, every letter you

715
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: wrote had to be read and every letter that came

716
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: in had to be read. So they knew. The DELL

717
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: didn't really understand it that point, they just whatever, They

718
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: just let it go. But it got the point to

719
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: where I remember our mail was going to the FBI

720
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: before it came to the GEIL, and that was that

721
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: was one of the big delays we found. That was

722
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 1: because the FBI was getting every letter coming in before

723
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: the jail would get it.

724
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 7: You can see where it was taped, staple together, copied

725
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 7: and then taped and stapled, and it went down a

726
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 7: long road and it would take about a month month

727
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 7: and a half to get a letter from anybody. There

728
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 7: was no quick response, quick turnaround nothing, and then they

729
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 7: started they started opening up our mail as it was

730
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 7: going out because of my actions, and yeah, it just

731
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 7: had had a domino effect within the cell block.

732
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: So what did what did they leave you with? Whenever

733
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: they left? And I remember that was in the sellwer

734
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: next to you looking through the window, and I remember

735
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: saying a couple of choice words.

736
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 5: Two.

737
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: I think it was like three guys and two females.

738
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: You know that that kind of came in, Yeah, and

739
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: had done this, and they're just logging stuff, logging stuff,

740
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: and you can kind of hear the conversation, what did

741
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: they leave you with? As far as they took, even

742
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: like personal items that weren't even related to your case,

743
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: didn't they just take?

744
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 5: They took.

745
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 7: They took anything that had writing on it, anything that

746
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 7: had notes on it, books, books, anything, All of it

747
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 7: was gone. They took all of it, all the paper,

748
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 7: all my tablets, everything. They left the pens and pencils

749
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 7: and that was it. And they took everything. And they

750
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 7: didn't leave me an inventory check sheet, nothing, no search warrant.

751
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: So whenever that came up through and then that you

752
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: started like to really start struggling about now, how am

753
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: I gonna it got kind of desperate because how if

754
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: this happened to him, it's going to happen to all of us.

755
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: So the unit's kind of like, oh my gosh, they're

756
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna come for me next. How did you and your

757
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: lawyer kind of get past this and to try to

758
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: re establish Did you get any of your stuff back?

759
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 7: No, none of it was returned to me. Those were

760
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 7: my notes. They took as many notes almost I almost

761
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 7: had as much as Dan here did. They took all

762
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 7: that And I was begging and pleading because I needed

763
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 7: them for trial. And I kept telling my attorneys, Hey,

764
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 7: you got to recover my notes from the FBI, and

765
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 7: they go, oh, well, the filtered teams got them and

766
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 7: they're going through them right now. And I almost thought

767
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 7: the No. I did think that my attorney was working

768
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 7: with the prosecution against me because of the you were

769
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 7: fighting the DOJ, the jail facility, and with your attorneys,

770
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 7: and it was a three front battle that you cannot win,

771
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 7: and you were destitute for failure. You were destined for failure.

772
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 7: Excuse me the.

773
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: You know I can't.

774
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

775
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: I kind of took like a little different approach where

776
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: I was very quiet, I mean, I didn't. You know,

777
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: it's sad to say that there are I have hundreds

778
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: and hundreds of letters, and I intend to get back

779
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: to every sing one of those who wrote. But I

780
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: didn't really write anybody back because I was so afraid

781
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: after that incident, Yeah, that they were going to get involved.

782
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: These people wanted to help you. These people were like God,

783
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, sending you prayers and stuff, and by doing that,

784
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: it's all so scared for them that they're gonna be

785
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: injected into our narrative and that they were going to

786
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: be looked at. So I tried to minimize my communication

787
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: outside of the jail with people, and I'm kind of

788
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: glad I did because it allowed me and other people

789
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: to kind of maintain this.

790
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

791
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: As now we're here out free, and we're able to

792
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: now be together like we said we wanted to be

793
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 1: for many many years, Like this is gonna happen one day, Dann,

794
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: we'll be back together.

795
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 7: I've still never recovered any of those items. Nothing, nothing

796
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 7: has ever come back. I tried to give one attorney.

797
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 7: He didn't send me anything.

798
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 5: He took it. Oh give it big, Yeah.

799
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 7: He gave me nothing, man, nothing from my case and

800
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 7: I was left to fight the court case alone. After

801
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 7: every single attorney. I went through seven different attorney sets man,

802
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 7: and none of them looked.

803
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 5: At anything that we wrote down. Nobody. It was unbelievable.

804
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 7: The uh so, let's uh, let's talk about let's talk

805
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 7: about what led us down the road again and some of.

806
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 5: The other things that we were finding. You wanna you

807
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 5: wanna expound on that a little bit.

808
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, whenever you start looking at the stuff you

809
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: start looking at which we all said is the police

810
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: started beating people up, and you know, there were instigated

811
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: agitation motivators in the crowd, and those could have been

812
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: handled one on one basis because it was only like

813
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: one guy or two guys, but you had a line

814
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: of police officers and you start looking at everything they

815
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: did was against their training, you know. So I started

816
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: asking the law Department because we started actually getting help

817
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: in the inside of the jail because of all the

818
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: inspector generals that we went to and started following complaints

819
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: with the US Marshall Service that were being denied access

820
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: to to the Law Center legal library that all the

821
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: other inmates were, you know, were afforded to, but we weren't.

822
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: S C two b J six ers. So I started

823
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: requesting use of force reports from twenty twenty one, you know,

824
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: of this incident and of the of the MPD, because

825
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: my focus was MPD, because I'm a firm believer that

826
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: once those cameras, those body warm cameras come out, the

827
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: narrative will change. And the government acted like that and

828
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: they're still acting like that now. So whenever you start

829
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: looking at all this training and stuff, you start seeing

830
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: that this is a systemic issue with the MPD. You know,

831
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: this isn't something that just happened, and we kind of

832
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: brushed on it, you know before on an interview, I

833
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: called in and we talked about the events leading up

834
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: to January sixth. The metropolit Police Department had practice and

835
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: we called it the playoffs to the super Bowl and

836
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: January sixth being the Super Bowl. And when you start

837
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: looking at the training, you start looking at the use

838
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: of force, the system is the systemic issue comes out

839
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: and you start seeing this is a cover up, this

840
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: is something this isn't right because we were justified in

841
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: our actions and we just wanted to be heard. And

842
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, when those videos come out, the narratives

843
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: going to change, and they know this, so I do

844
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: want to kind of get into that in a little depth,

845
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, like even a use of

846
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: force that I had pulled over. Why don't you read

847
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: a quick statement from it is it is policy of

848
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: the MPD to provide basic law enforcement service training that

849
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: includes extensive de escalation training. I'm asking anybody out there

850
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,720
Speaker 1: if you saw any de escalation from any Metropolitan Police department,

851
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: had a comment to the show in the Barn, it

852
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: didn't happen.

853
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 3: You know.

854
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: There was no warnings, there was no justification for what

855
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: they did. They could have handled any of the instigators agitators.

856
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: But you know what, we'll get right back to this cement.

857
00:47:46,520 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, No.

858
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: Fucking I feel fast.

859
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: On the problems at the drum Barn party.

860
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 2: Man.

861
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: Just these guys are rocking. This is awesome. Thank you guys.

862
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 7: Oh my god, it's the Z Is that yours on

863
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 7: my phone? That's the Zen phone. Hold on a second,

864
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 7: thank you mister Zen for calling in. Sorry about that?

865
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 7: Oh what this in Phoe?

866
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 5: Good afternoon, sir. How are you?

867
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 7: Oh it's mister Zelensky, sir.

868
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,760
Speaker 5: How did you get this number?

869
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 7: This is unauthorized and you're you're coming in broken and stupid.

870
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 7: That third world communication system of yours. Oh what did

871
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 7: I watch the meeting? Oh yeah I did. Man, you

872
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 7: look like that tool. Oh my god. And that Chinese

873
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 7: knockout five eleven nightmare you were wearing. Did Hillary Clinton dress.

874
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 5: You that day? You sissy? Oh my god?

875
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: What?

876
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 5: Oh?

877
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 7: No, no, no, I'm not going to make any donations

878
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 7: to the Democrat Party.

879
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 5: That's unbelievable.

880
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 7: Hey, man, I got a story to do here. Hey,

881
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 7: I'll just have your people get with mine. Man, I'll

882
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 7: call you later later. Oh my god, dude, that was

883
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 7: a zeph Nobody gets that number.

884
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: Man, that's like the presidential phone almost.

885
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 7: Oh my god, hold on, man, that destroyed my whole composure.

886
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 7: Let's pull it back together. What do you got for

887
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 7: us today? Again?

888
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 3: Guys?

889
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: Think you guys come back for the bar party. You're

890
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: glad we give you a little laugh about something like that.

891
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 5: But just.

892
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: We want to talk about the case history of the

893
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: MPD and like as we talked about that January sixth

894
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 1: was the super Bowl. You know, the case history is there.

895
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: If you look at any case, you can go on

896
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: anywhere and type up MPD. Use the force you go

897
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: to see multiple, multiple lawsuits. This is not a one

898
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: off incident with with MPD. This is a systemic issue

899
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: and it just happens to be that, you know, the

900
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: use of force that we saw and we kept seeing

901
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: and seeing a scene had exacerbated over the day, you know,

902
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: and you would think that the de escalation training that

903
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: they're supposed to have gotten would it would would precedent

904
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: over when they show up using use of force. But

905
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: you made a comment while we're kind of off here

906
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: talking about this about Tyndall and when she first arrived. Yes,

907
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and go and go into it.

908
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 7: So when we're watching her load her bag, like I said,

909
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 7: when you go down the rabbit hole, you start watching

910
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 7: what they're doing, and you start watching the physical actions.

911
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 7: Remember you know the how and the what, you need

912
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 7: to know the why, and you need to watch people's

913
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 7: reactions and you need to watch how they move when

914
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 7: they're doing certain things, and those will be key to

915
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 7: their demeanor on how they feel about the product that

916
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 7: they're about to expose. So I watched Tara Tindall's body

917
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 7: cam footage from start to finish, from the time she

918
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 7: woke up that day to the time she went to sleep.

919
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 7: And I watched her load that bag.

920
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 5: Of munitions, remember that.

921
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 7: And they use Jason Christman as a mule to carry

922
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 7: all that crap in there.

923
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 5: And I watched her talk to Sergeant.

924
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 7: James Jason Jason j Well anyway, chrismin Man, they all

925
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 7: sound the same anyway.

926
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 5: So I watched her.

927
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 7: Take the forty millimeters grenade launcher and and ask Sara

928
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 7: Edwards do I have permission to shoot this weapon?

929
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 5: And he said yes, shoot it right over there.

930
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 7: She ran directly into the crowd, direct lay with that

931
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 7: weapon system and blasted a man in the chest. Where

932
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 7: that man is I have no idea reloaded. And she

933
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 7: was so nervous about this weapon system that she kept

934
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 7: checking the condition of the weapon system, check the safety,

935
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 7: open the breach, pull the round out, put it back in,

936
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 7: close the breach, check the safety, and this kept going

937
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 7: on and on. That shows improficiency with the weapon system

938
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 7: because she was so nervous to hold it.

939
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 5: And that goes on with the other officers.

940
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: As she got to that point. I want to make

941
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: a very key point here is in any of the

942
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: training in the DC code that you can look up

943
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: DC code, use of for's First Amendment assemblies in their

944
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: training is they are not allowed to use less lethal

945
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: force as a dispersal agent, right first a crowd, That

946
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: is exercise and First Amendment right, all right. So when

947
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: they first arrived, Chrispin had his fourth Mark forty six

948
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: as he dumped them, tailegraved them. But Tendall's standing there.

949
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 5: He had a bag full of them.

950
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: So in Glover you clearly hear it on the radio communications. Yes,

951
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: he's like, Tendall, clear them out. That is a dispersal

952
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: order to clear them out, and using her les lethal

953
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: forty millimeters grenade launcher, she launches into the crowd ammunitions

954
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: as a dispersal agent. I just want to get that

955
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: point clear because that was the again leadership right, directing

956
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 1: right off the bat, not de escalation, escalation and breaking policy.

957
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 5: Right.

958
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 7: If I was a private on the firing line and

959
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 7: there was a bunch of weapons out there, and I sorry,

960
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 7: said you're a half at it, it's gonna be a heyday.

961
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 7: I'm going to use everything I possibly can to destroy everything.

962
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 7: And that's exactly what they did. And they brought people,

963
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 7: They brought MPD officers one line and gave them whatever

964
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 7: they wanted and unleashed them onto the crowd, and it

965
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 7: was a gigantic training day. There was no commanded control,

966
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 7: There was no orchestration that didn't utilize any protocol whatsoever

967
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 7: for crowd control or crowd dispersion. There was no l

968
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 7: RAZ until around twelve two five, fourteen oh five, fourteen ten.

969
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 7: And I only heard that because it was on somebody

970
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 7: else's body cam footage you I can't remember. And they

971
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 7: only played it for ten minutes and shut that off.

972
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 7: And by that time it was only on the north side.

973
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 7: You couldn't even hear anything.

974
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: So everybody was watching the video and I think Samsel

975
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: was kind of there, and it shows like they just

976
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: opened the line. You hear like, okay, everybody open up.

977
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: The police line opens up, she comes in, fires backs off,

978
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: the line closes back up. But do you know it

979
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: was during that time between her and when Glover had

980
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: his forty millimeters, which he's not trained to use, you

981
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: should never. They're having to show him how to load it,

982
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: and they're feeding rounds this later on.

983
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 5: None of those people were authorized to fire those.

984
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: But there was a J sixer there who had been

985
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: severely wounded by a baton round that they just kind

986
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: of opened the crowd and shot and roved back. And

987
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: it was the gentleman I had read in a publication,

988
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say which one it was that broke

989
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,479
Speaker 1: his thigh. It broke his femur, right, and he didn't

990
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: know it because his pants got so swollen tight. But

991
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: that was using that round and that les leave the

992
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: force in a deadly manner, point blank range into somebody's thigh.

993
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: The impact that that can have on you to break

994
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: your thigh bone.

995
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 7: Right, Let's talk about more crowd dispersion with Sergeant Riley

996
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 7: man and what he was doing. I tried to watch

997
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 7: his bodycam footage, but it was clearly underneath his jacket

998
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 7: that he had zipped up all the way. And you

999
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 7: have Sergeant Riley on multiple body cam footage a multitude

1000
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 7: of people. He's in it to win it. This guy

1001
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 7: was on cocaine or methamphetamines or something because he was

1002
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 7: beating overhand lethal lethal overhand strikes. These are cracking skulls

1003
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 7: and he is beating. He is stabbing with the butt

1004
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 7: end of his baton and overhand striking to the head

1005
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 7: and to the legs, to the torso all over the place,

1006
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 7: and not one time did he look back and say, hey, man,

1007
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 7: what do we need to do to get rid of

1008
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 7: this crowd. We just need to run in and just

1009
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 7: start beating it. And as soon as he showed up

1010
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 7: on the scene, it was game on with this guy.

1011
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: Did you know that every officer that had used use

1012
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: of force is required to do a force incident report

1013
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: and not one of those reports and any discovery on

1014
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: the PDF files showed that they would use excessive force.

1015
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: Everything was justified. And if you watch some of the

1016
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: vitos when they come out, and they will, there's nothing

1017
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: that justifies beating a woman with a shield or pepper sprainer,

1018
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: then shield nerve downstairs or elders or anybody.

1019
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 7: You have lieutenants, captains and majors taking orders from subordinates

1020
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 7: that were completely out of control, telling them what to do, sir,

1021
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 7: And that's that man right there.

1022
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 5: Get him.

1023
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: Same video of two and Edward's talking with the assistant

1024
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: police chief who was on scene. He shows up and

1025
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, we've tried pain compliance. It's not working.

1026
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: I think there's that video has been out for a

1027
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: little while. We've done everything we can we start taking

1028
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: it's not working. We go after one, we make ten

1029
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: of them mad. That's a huge statement. You hit one

1030
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: person that you should be going after, but you usually

1031
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: use the force in such a manner that your stingballs

1032
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: is hill in the crowd affects ten people. You've now

1033
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: injured ten people. What do you think is going to happen?

1034
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 5: Sergeant too says these things, but then he goes on.

1035
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 7: He ends up tackling a woman up on the upper

1036
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 7: terrace in flex Kaft for no reason, when everybody was

1037
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 7: leaving the building. It was around seventeen hundred dish up there,

1038
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 7: and her boyfriend's just screaming, why are you doing this?

1039
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 7: What did you do?

1040
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 5: Oh? She spit on me?

1041
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 7: And then he grabs he grabs a taser. The thing

1042
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 7: is winding down and people are leaving. He runs up

1043
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 7: and grabs somebody else's taser, runs out into the crowd.

1044
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 7: Zap's A guy reloads the cartridge, shoots another man with it,

1045
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 7: and the only person that tried to stop him and

1046
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 7: slow him down was Lieutenant Horras. How do I know

1047
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 7: this because I watched his body camp footage and he

1048
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 7: made taw give back the taser the man was a

1049
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 7: one man wrecking ball.

1050
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: Do you how do you have eight bodycam videos by yourself?

1051
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: How is that possible? You have to stop the body

1052
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: cam So if you watch the bodycam videos in Wintao

1053
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: and the little group of people in the DSOs, We're

1054
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: gonna talk about this real quick when we come back.

1055
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: But it's pretty shocking and it shouldn't happen. I think

1056
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: the policy says that it should not happen.

1057
00:59:45,720 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 7: There's a repetition for this training. Welcome back to Cowboy

1058
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 7: Logic once again. This is unprecedented. With Dan and I

1059
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 7: have taken over the comm system of a media outlet,

1060
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 7: a mogile media outlet, and we thank you very much

1061
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 7: for this opportunity. And we're going to get started because

1062
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 7: there's so much information that needs to be put out.

1063
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 7: We have watched it all. I will stand before the

1064
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 7: eyes of God and testify the bodycam footage is what

1065
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 7: we're now went on and we're going to talk about

1066
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 7: some of the bodycam footage and the fall of the

1067
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 7: West Harrace and why that took place.

1068
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: So we kind of left Conan the break. We were

1069
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: talking about multiple body cam footage and how is it

1070
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: that that's an officer has eight different start stops, eight

1071
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: different bodycam videos. When you look at okay, a bodycam video,

1072
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: you see, officers is a three hour video. You have

1073
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: one that has thirty minutes, forty minutes, an hour, an hour,

1074
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: an hour, an hour, and every time and you watching

1075
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: their body cam, they hit stopped because they're having a

1076
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: conversation that they don't want anbi us to hear exactly

1077
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: how to attract the crowd. What they just did that

1078
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: was probably highly illegal. Horrors and towel at one point, yeah,

1079
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: had turned off because okay, everybody, we all hear, we

1080
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: all hear turn it off. But guess who didn't turn

1081
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: their camera off on this little incident, Oh Edwards, mister

1082
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: Edwards again. And it was them saying we shouldn't gas them.

1083
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: This is after the fall of the West Terrace. This

1084
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: was already up there. Let lower West Hairs has already fallen.

1085
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: You've already gassed the crowd, You've already done all this

1086
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: stuff to people out there. But now you had to

1087
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: retreat up here because you gassed yourself. Right, talk about

1088
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: the the the gassing, the fall of the West Terrace

1089
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: and how it came about.

1090
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 7: So two fifteen, two o'clock two fifteen ish. They were

1091
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 7: They were just shooting and throwing anything, steger balls, handheld gas,

1092
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 7: forty millimeter projectiles. But the problem was they started running

1093
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 7: into short rounds. And a short round is when the

1094
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 7: projectile goes out, it doesn't go to its maximum effective range.

1095
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 7: It falls short because of the powder, it was wet

1096
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 7: or bad firing mechanism or something like that. So one

1097
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 7: round goes what was that officer's name again, Corey, Corey,

1098
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 7: that's right.

1099
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: Mccrey said, Hey, I don't have a camera record this.

1100
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's like, check this out, take pictures of me. Man,

1101
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 7: I put this on GQ, And that's exactly what it was,

1102
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 7: was a GQ photo shoot.

1103
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 5: And he gets up there, posters up, shoots around.

1104
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 7: It goes about twenty feet in front of him, and

1105
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 7: they try to kick it around. Now, mind you backtrack.

1106
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 7: There is a line of officers. There's got to be,

1107
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 7: oh my god, about one hundred officers maybe maybe more

1108
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 7: out there trying to stave the flow of people because

1109
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 7: they don't have proper protection or they just weren't prepared

1110
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 7: for it in any way, shape or form.

1111
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 5: They were now.

1112
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: Crowd the crowd right. It was highly agitated because they

1113
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: recited because.

1114
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 7: Now they've got CS gas deployed right behind them. And

1115
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 7: then there was another one, and where they kicked that

1116
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 7: when I can't remember. I didn't see it on the camera,

1117
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 7: but I watched another one go into the crowd. The

1118
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 7: crowd picked it up and threw it right back, and

1119
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 7: here comes my man. Instead of maintaining command and control,

1120
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 7: he decides, with a gloved hand which he never used,

1121
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 7: decides to kick the canister of CS all the way

1122
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 7: down the line of officers. Captain Augustine, thank you very

1123
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 7: much for single handedly taking down the entire West Terrace.

1124
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 7: You kicked that CS canister all the way down, gassing

1125
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 7: yourself to a point of incapacitation, waxing all those people

1126
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 7: I counted just on your video camera. Thirty seven officers

1127
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 7: walked away, gave it the double barrel middle finger, and

1128
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 7: said I am done with this riot.

1129
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: Later to be called They thought they were set up, right, Oh.

1130
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 5: We were set up.

1131
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 7: Somebody said fall back, No nobody could breathe or see anymore,

1132
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 7: and all the crowd did. Because there were no more

1133
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 7: officers to hold the line. They stepped forward and that

1134
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 7: was the fall of the West Terrace at two twenty

1135
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 7: five in the afternoon, and violence and everything broke out then,

1136
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 7: and the and the police officers had to retreat and

1137
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 7: they got bottlenecked into the doorway they went. Instead of

1138
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 7: taking the stairs, No, they just took a single doorway

1139
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 7: where they all crowded into it, which took it forever

1140
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 7: to get through, and they never made it up to

1141
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 7: the top of the West Terrace until around three o'clock

1142
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 7: in the afternoon, fifteen hundred in the afternoon, they decided

1143
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 7: to start taking a stand and I remember around seventeen

1144
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 7: hundred a colonel, Oh, wait a minute, God, there's so

1145
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 7: much Let's go back and talk about some of the

1146
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 7: items that were found into the crowd.

1147
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 5: And this leads me to believe that the under for

1148
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 5: the fall, this was right right before about you.

1149
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: This is after the gassing.

1150
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 7: The around two fourteen, one hundred thirteen thirty somewhere right around.

1151
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: There was the line fell. Like two twenty five was

1152
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: when the line started pushing back to twenty seven to

1153
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: twenty eight. It was within a couple minutes that so

1154
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: right around.

1155
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 7: Because it was twenty five, because it was on the

1156
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 7: body camp footage after Tao, Augustine and Bagshaw were in

1157
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 7: a heated discussion trying to figure out what they wanted

1158
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 7: to do in life, and they all three of them

1159
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 7: came running down the steps damn near holding hands with

1160
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 7: each other, skipping, and then they ran into the crowd

1161
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 7: and then Bagshaw moves underneath. This is haul on video

1162
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 7: people and you see three five to eleven Nightmare guys

1163
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 7: standing in the corner with their arms around the MPD,

1164
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 7: laughing and giggling. I wonder who they are undercover agents?

1165
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 7: And then Bagshawe runs around and you're watching it on

1166
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 7: his bodycam footage. There is a gun in the crowd

1167
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 7: Smith and Wesson nine millimeter in the waistband Holster kaitex

1168
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 7: that says, we the people on the holster backtrack to

1169
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 7: one of our segments that said you have to watch

1170
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 7: the video and then you go back and you look

1171
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 7: at it frame by frame, because it happens so fast

1172
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 7: on video, you will miss it. And he picks this

1173
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 7: thing up and puts it in his pocket.

1174
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: So that gun had been kicked from a circle of people.

1175
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 5: There were a bunch of people yeah.

1176
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: Slid to him. He just very quickly grabs it and

1177
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: takes control of this. Now remember watching I want to

1178
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 1: say it might be Fold, Officer Fold's bodycam that was

1179
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: in there. And now remember there was a guy in

1180
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,479
Speaker 1: the crowd and he's wearing the five lot of stuff

1181
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: like you're saying yes, and the gun falls and I

1182
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: remember him kind of like holding people back. Yeah, he goes,

1183
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: I lost my gun, and he's like catching yourself. He goes,

1184
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: there's a gun.

1185
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1186
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: So it looked like it was very incon very conveniently

1187
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 1: just kind of placed down there barrier. Oh look, there's

1188
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: a gun.

1189
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 7: I'm not going to go into theatrics about that, but

1190
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 7: you don't lose all three items. And they also recovered

1191
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 7: a pistol nine milimeter haullowpoint uh magazine magazine fully loaded.

1192
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 7: You don't lose the pistol in the waistband and then

1193
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 7: the magazine on top of each other in the middle

1194
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 7: of a crowd like that, there is no possible way.

1195
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 7: The gun will fall out first and everybody will see

1196
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 7: that and then you back away. That's in the waistband

1197
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 7: holster where they wanted somebody to pick that weapon system

1198
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 7: up and start deploying it before the end of the day.

1199
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 7: So they could actually say it was an armed insurrection.

1200
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 7: And then I wonder what Captain Bagshawe did. Oh, I remember, Yes,

1201
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 7: he found and his commander up on one one tier

1202
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 7: up and he handed that thing off. Didn't say a word.

1203
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 7: It was like some sort of understood nod or something.

1204
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 5: Okay.

1205
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: And if you find a gun, and I'm the m

1206
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 1: it's just a chief that's out there, and and i'm

1207
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: your superior, superior, right, and you come and give me

1208
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: a gun, I'm going to say.

1209
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 5: Like, Mike, oh my god, where did you get this?

1210
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 3: This?

1211
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: Whose is this?

1212
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 5: Yes? No, where did you find that?

1213
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 1: And I think we've probably got some footage of this

1214
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: that we'll show later. Is just the transition from here.

1215
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 5: To nothing, no word spoken.

1216
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 7: Like a like, and he passed that off and you

1217
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 7: never heard of it again.

1218
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: This little trap didn't work. Just just put it up.

1219
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 1: It was a plant.

1220
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 5: We the people, right.

1221
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 7: They try to make it look like some patriot put

1222
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 7: it up there, but you don't. I don't know how

1223
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 7: many scenarios I've done within the waistband holsters.

1224
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 5: The gun will fall out.

1225
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,679
Speaker 7: The gun falls out when you're getting out of the car,

1226
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 7: the gun falls out when you're getting in the car.

1227
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,839
Speaker 7: The gun falls out when you're when you're wrestling around,

1228
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 7: but the holster always stays. That thing is on almost

1229
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 7: cemented to your side, and you have to pull it

1230
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 7: all out. But to find the holster and the gun

1231
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 7: married together is almost damn near impossible. You don't do it.

1232
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 7: The thing was a plant, and then they came up

1233
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 7: with the knife later on. That smocks Nicks. So the

1234
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 7: thing was a setup. Augustine, Bagshot, Tau, Tendall, Crisman, Harrows,

1235
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 7: and the rest of them.

1236
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: Man naming these officers, it's funny. I just want to

1237
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: real quick say that. You know, as I was doing

1238
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,439
Speaker 1: my notes and stuff before, I kind of made a

1239
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: special sheet and I don't know why I did it,

1240
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: but I put goon Squad. And just as I'm watching

1241
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: all these videos for months and hours and hundreds of hours,

1242
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: this list builds. It's Glover, it's Harrington, it's Augustine, it's Tau.

1243
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: This is before you and I.

1244
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 7: This is before we came together. And then names are.

1245
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:53,440
Speaker 1: Bagshaw, Caldwell, Dockett, Bogner, Alito, Harrington, Voltson, Folds, Forester, McAllister.

1246
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: Excellent horros.

1247
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 7: When you start looking at their history and the things

1248
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 7: that they have done throughout their career. In the NPD,

1249
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 7: you will see the repetition of the crimes being committed

1250
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 7: by these people and being covered up by the higher echelon.

1251
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: A lot of these people belong to SOD Special Operations

1252
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,480
Speaker 1: Division within MPD in the DSO, which is the Domestic

1253
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: Special Operations. They're Special Operations for a reason. These guys

1254
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 1: are the same people who have been named in Monomo's

1255
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 1: lawsuits Tyndall, Chrisman, Daal Glover, and all the other lawsuits

1256
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: that we've looked at before. They're the same. It's the

1257
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 1: same people, the same divisions within MPD. They have specific issues,

1258
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to kind of we talked about

1259
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:42,880
Speaker 1: it for but I wanted to really kind of just

1260
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: you and I on the same path. And I actually

1261
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: have goon squad, and we keep naming the same officers.

1262
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 7: And look at the mine right, and look at the

1263
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 7: body camps man. When you watch these things, these guys

1264
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 7: are disappearing for a while. They'll go downstairs and they'll

1265
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 7: just hang out with their other officers. If officers were

1266
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 7: dying that day and people were being beat to death,

1267
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 7: why are these guys going downstairs to prip their hair

1268
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 7: or splash water on them.

1269
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 3: Fail.

1270
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 5: Oh man, it's really crazy out there. This is we're

1271
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 5: having a good time.

1272
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 7: And that is on Oh Augustine's bodycm footedge and Williams.

1273
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 7: Where did William or Smiley even Smiley? After she got

1274
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 7: done puke and green bile, she went downstairs and that

1275
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 7: was the end of her for the rest of the day.

1276
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,799
Speaker 7: And she went down there and started bsing with their friends.

1277
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, this is really really amazing cell phone communications

1278
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 7: with their boyfriends. The list is into us. The female

1279
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 7: in the bathroom, they didn't even bother deleting her body

1280
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 7: camp footage. They put that on another guy's Discovery and

1281
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 7: he showed that. Remember that she goes into the bathroom,

1282
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 7: She's like checking herself, checking her bit.

1283
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, what the hell is this thought? Oh my god?

1284
01:11:47,400 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: Back in Hey, welcome back to Cowboy Logic. This is Daniel.

1285
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 5: I'm Jeff.

1286
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: We just want to welcome you back and again to

1287
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: again as we go through this process, just the feelings

1288
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: and stuff we're having and the gratitude for Donna, Donna

1289
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: to last, thank you. This is this is a dream

1290
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: and this is only the start, and we will accomplish

1291
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: the goal. But you know, we'll get into that another

1292
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: segment here later on. So we kind of left and

1293
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: we're talking about the fall of the West Terrace. Uh,

1294
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: there came a stance of you know, the tunnel became

1295
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: the stance of this. This was the final I don't

1296
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: know how you say it. This was the final interaction

1297
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,759
Speaker 1: between MPD, Capitol Police and the crowd.

1298
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 5: Right.

1299
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 7: I want to thank Captain Augustine once again for the

1300
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 7: fall of the West Terriff.

1301
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 5: Thank you, Sarah. You did a really wonderful job that day.

1302
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 7: So we're talking about the winding down. This is later

1303
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 7: on in the afternoon. There's so much information it's unbelievable,

1304
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 7: and I like to get back to something really quick.

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01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 7: I want you to fact check me. I want you

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Speaker 7: to check my information. Everything I say is gospel. Dan

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01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 7: and I together, we are biblical man, and I want

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Speaker 7: you to fact check us. And we're going to get

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Speaker 7: into the uh into the tunnels right now. And what

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Speaker 7: happened with Ashley Babbitt, Roseanne Boiling and Ashley Babbitt, names

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Speaker 7: that I will never forget as long as I live,

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Speaker 7: because I watched their murder, their assassination on video.

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Speaker 5: We'll start with We'll start with Roseanne.

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Speaker 1: Boiling Morris, So we kind of talk about.

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Speaker 5: That officers involved more.

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Speaker 1: We we know they had guessed the crowd. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: people had become affixiated because you're in this tunnel and

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01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people and impd's forcing out crowds

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01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: standing there and you can't push back because the crowd

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01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: is just it's becomes a push a war now to

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01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 1: war a push a war. So rosee Bullen became incapacitated

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01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: because of being gassed. If I'm almost certain that that's

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Speaker 1: what happened.

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Speaker 7: Right, She was a heavy, She was slightly heavy, maybe

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Speaker 7: had an underlying condition or something like that, but the

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Speaker 7: body can't handle that kind of stress for such a

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Speaker 7: long period of time. I'm not a medic, nor am

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Speaker 7: I a PA or anything like that. Used to be

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Speaker 7: a communications geek, but I've seen enough people fall out

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Speaker 7: from exertion countless times. And what happened she went down.

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Speaker 7: You could see on the video and correct me if

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Speaker 7: I'm wrong. Dan, You see her hands going up. And

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Speaker 7: I watched this. Officers close proximity or had a hand

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Speaker 7: in it. Were Morris, Pale, Hodges Venn officer one two

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Speaker 7: to two five, and there were two other I used

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Speaker 7: to these notes I used to have, but the the

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Speaker 7: FBI took him. Thank you the uh. So you see

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Speaker 7: her hands go up, she falls to the ground Lyla

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Speaker 7: Morris once again, man, I bet if you fact check

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01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 7: her and look at her history, she'll have cases up

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01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 7: the wazoo of violence in lawsuits against her. Started beating

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Speaker 7: this woman when she was on the ground, people protecting her,

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Speaker 7: and the violence of action keeps going with the other

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Speaker 7: officers kicking her.

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Speaker 1: So again a use of force, an excessive use of

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Speaker 1: force because there was a stick that was provided and

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Speaker 1: she's beaten. Roseanne boiling as she's laying down with a stick.

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Speaker 1: And this was this is verifiable because Mac, you know,

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Speaker 1: there were several people that were of in the c

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Speaker 1: to Sea to be pod with us that were at

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Speaker 1: that incident that triggered them to do what they did.

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Speaker 5: Right, they were standing right next to her.

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Speaker 1: So as we're looking at that and you have multiple

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Speaker 1: people who had the same story, Jay Sixers, I was

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Speaker 1: doing this. I was doing this. This is what I

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Speaker 1: saw is what I saw. What I saw. You start

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Speaker 1: coming to this excessive use of force, but this was investated. This,

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Speaker 1: this incident with Lyla Morris was investigated. It was investigated.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny you mentioned who our buddy.

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Speaker 5: Oh let me guess once again, the fall of the

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Speaker 5: West Terrace.

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Speaker 1: David Augustine of the Metropolitan Police.

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Speaker 5: Department, Thank you, mister Augustine.

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Speaker 1: During investigation quote and I'm gonna read this quote real quick.

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Speaker 1: The use of force within this investigation was determined to

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Speaker 1: be objectively reasonable. And this is the one investigation with

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Speaker 1: Lyla Morris and the beating of Roseanne Boiland with a stick. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that could be objectively reasonable reasonable.

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Speaker 7: This is the same officer later on that night on

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Speaker 7: video talking about filing lawsuits against Jay six Ers with

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Speaker 7: Captain Bagshaw later on that evening making false claims of PTSD, TBI, strike, fear,

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Speaker 7: sleep apnea, permanent body disfigurement.

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Speaker 1: So the use of force, it always comes down to

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Speaker 1: use of force. Again, the use of force, use of force,

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01:16:58,080 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: us to force and this wasn't known things. This was

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Speaker 1: the fall the West Terrace and that happened there. But

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Speaker 1: let's also talk about Ashley Babbitt, Michael Burden.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so.

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Speaker 7: Real quick, with Roseanne Boiling is that wonder why they

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Speaker 7: burned the body so quickly, and they said that she

1381
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:19,440
Speaker 7: died of a methamphetamine overdose. Where's the family, where's the outcry,

1382
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 7: where's the follow on information?

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01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 5: Where was it?

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01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 7: They drugged the body into the back of the hallway

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01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 7: like a rag man and then dumped her off, and

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 7: then you what was that officer's name that walked by?

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01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 7: He's like, oh, is that one of ours? And they're like, no,

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 7: that's a crowd. Yeah, he's out FM. Man did forget it? Man,

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Speaker 7: let's keep going.

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Speaker 1: This context is is as you just said, that's want

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Speaker 1: to clarify, they are still doing.

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Speaker 5: CPR dark pressure CPR.

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Speaker 1: Minutes minutes in a long while past this, And this

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Speaker 1: is a This is a disgusting police department who once

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Speaker 1: at this time had bragged about at least we got

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Speaker 1: to throw some hands. Yeah, anybody knows what throwing hand is.

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Speaker 1: That that's fighting. And the other officer, that's real quick,

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Speaker 1: kind of off tangent. But I had to say this

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Speaker 1: is he's on body cam. The other officer. He's telling

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Speaker 1: us too, like dude body bragging about being able to

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01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 1: punch other writers and bragging about so he's the one

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01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: that walks by, sees them doing this, asked another officer, Hey,

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01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: is that one of us? Or is that one of them?

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01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 1: And that officer said, oh, that's one of them. He's

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Speaker 1: like fet and walks right on by.

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Speaker 5: Fact check it.

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Speaker 7: So we're gonna go into Ashley Babbitt. This is I

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01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 7: met her mother one day and that was a tear

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Speaker 7: jerking moment. And I watched the video twice and that

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Speaker 7: was enough for me to convince me that that that

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01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 7: thing was set up from the get go. And you

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Speaker 7: had yeah, you had people breaking glass.

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01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 5: And stuff like that. You want me to go into

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01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 5: theatrics and.

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01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: So what I stick to what you were? What this guy?

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01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 5: All? Right? So you see you see the setup.

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 7: There was a hand in arm signal or a call

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01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 7: that came out, and there were two officers standing on

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Speaker 7: one side of the doorway and there were other officers behind.

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Speaker 7: If you were behind once again the line of officers,

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01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 7: you get flex cuffed. But this wasn't happening because the

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Speaker 7: door was there, and you had people were praising self.

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Speaker 1: Two police are standing right behind right right.

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01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,839
Speaker 7: They're standing directly behind her, and more people, more officer

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Speaker 7: They disappeared, They fell back because there was a hand

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01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 7: in arm signal or a call came out and you

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01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 7: couldn't and you're like, where'd they go? And all of

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01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 7: a sudden, you see Michael Bird's hand come out and

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01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 7: he takes the shot and then retracts, moves back, starts

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Speaker 7: calling four shots fired, shots shots fired.

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Speaker 5: I'm taking it.

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01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 7: I'm taking the shot and uh and then why would

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Speaker 7: you do that? Right afterwards, and that's when the SWAT

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Speaker 7: team comes up the steps.

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Speaker 1: So you had two not swat protected, not play carriers,

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: not the windy helmets, not the not the protective gear

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01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 1: that were standing there with just playing clothes. Capitol Police

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01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 1: are standing there right right behind where she's get shot.

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01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: Exit the scene right the shot happens. Then you got

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01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: Ert who was fully decked out in full military year

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01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: that show up.

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 7: Once again, if you have the upper hand with the personnel,

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01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 7: why would you give up the high ground. He took

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01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,560
Speaker 7: the shot and then ran away and then made the

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01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 7: call of shots fired. That is a cowardice act. That

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01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:28,799
Speaker 7: is an assassination. That is a triggering response by Capitol

1447
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 7: Police and MPD to force the crowd's hand into bearing

1448
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 7: arms into the riot, and they wanted it to go

1449
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 7: down that way, you know, but they showed restraint and

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01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 7: nobody had a weapon.

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: To the family of Asky Babbitt, we honor her. We

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01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: have for for four years.

1453
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 5: Tear jerking experience, crying shame.

1454
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: Just Mickey, we love you, we love you, and we're sorry.

1455
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: To the family, to her husband, to everybody that knew Mickey,

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01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,560
Speaker 1: what a what a what a wonderful woman, And this

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01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: was just a tragic incident. I just wanted to say

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01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,799
Speaker 1: that real quick. I met you once, Just huge goosebumps

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01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: all over there.

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01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 7: I men you once when you came to C t

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01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 7: B to see me, and that was honorable. And you

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01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 7: and I sat there and I told you exactly what

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01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 7: I saw on video. And I hope it brings anything

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Speaker 7: to you.

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01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 5: Man. That's tough, dude, that's tough.

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01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: Don't know where to go after that one, real quick.

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01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I just really don't bro got a little time,

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01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 1: but just you know, again, as we keep saying this,

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01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 1: this this comes back to use of force and training

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01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: and communication, and you know, after that, I just we

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Speaker 1: kind of come to the end of the stuff and

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Speaker 1: and and and the segments that we're we've been honored

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Speaker 1: to host things to Donna. Donna is it's going to

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01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: come down to we really really really need to continue

1475
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: this fight. You know, fight is not over.

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01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 7: We want to stay in it as long as we can,

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01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 7: and we want to help man and we want to

1478
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:05,839
Speaker 7: be questioned about what we saw and what we've witnessed

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01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 7: on video.

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01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 5: It's it's unbelievable.

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01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot there, and you know, we've had so much,

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01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: We've had this blessing, this opportunity to talk to you guys,

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01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 1: and and and there's so much more that that we

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01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: not even get to today.

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01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 5: No, we can't. We just can't can't do it.

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01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 1: It's too much information and it's too much We just

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01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 1: there's there's not enough traction yet. So as we kind

1488
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: of wrap this up in a little bit, I think

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Speaker 1: we got another segment to do.

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01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 5: But but when yeah, just just.

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01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: Really understand the purpose of why we're here and what

1492
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: we're trying to do is to educate that there is

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01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: a system out there. It has been in place. We're

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01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: not going to take the fact that you know it's gone,

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01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: you didn't delete this. You might have deleted some stuff

1496
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: during the committee and that information is gone, but this

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01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: is a totally different system. That we're talking about, you know,

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01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: so we just need that, we need your help.

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Speaker 7: When you're going out there and you're the videos or

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01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 7: you're trying to gather information, Remember you got to know

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01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 7: the how, the what, and the why, and then you

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01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 7: have to watch. Just like ingredients of a cake, you

1503
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,600
Speaker 7: have things that make up a riot. You have instigators, agitators,

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01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 7: and motivators. Any two of those three will instigate violence

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01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 7: within within the organization. And then you have the gorilla fighters,

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 7: the Antifa and the BLM, the sedition hunters, and the

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01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 7: people that were dressed up just like Trump supporters that

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01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 7: were agitating the police and pushing people forward. It's just

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01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 7: it's unbelievable. So just yeah, real quick, real quick.

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Speaker 1: So this after Ashley Babbitt that you know, we're just

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01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: gonna have take another break.

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01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to pull it together, get it back together.

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01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why time.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 7: We had a pretty emotional break that was well needed,

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01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 7: and Dan and I would like to talk about a

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Speaker 7: few things, uh, that are emotional to us and some

1519
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 7: feeling and demands that we would like to get out

1520
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 7: to the public that make you more aware of our situation,

1521
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 7: and some of the things that we were subjected to

1522
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 7: while incarcerated were the local media, uh and UH local

1523
01:24:53,640 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 7: newscasts that were calling us, you know, the terrorists and insurrectionists.

1524
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: And change your name from Jeff McKellop to hello, my

1525
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,439
Speaker 1: name is ist. We just need tags or tattoos right

1526
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 1: here that says my name is this because when you

1527
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: stick at it, because you add it's the end of it.

1528
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: White supremacist, domestic terrorists, terrorist, you know, a militant extremist,

1529
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: anybody you put it inst to the end of it.

1530
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: They've called it to us, you know what, And it's

1531
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: unjust because it's set a narrative. It's set a narrative

1532
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: with the with the United States people, set an area

1533
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: with Congress, it set a narrative with with anybody who

1534
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 1: It just set a wrong narrative.

1535
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,000
Speaker 5: It was a pre punishment.

1536
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,720
Speaker 7: We were denied our due process, We were denied information

1537
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,919
Speaker 7: all our discovery. Even our own attorneys denied us information

1538
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 7: about our case and wouldn't allow us to fight it.

1539
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 7: And like we said before, we were fighting a war

1540
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 7: on three different fronts with the d J the CTF facility,

1541
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 7: and then again with our attorneys.

1542
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:52,560
Speaker 5: It was unbelievable.

1543
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: But in the perception of the American people, a lot

1544
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: of them, you know. And as we say that, the

1545
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 1: tie is kind of turned, you know, so you look

1546
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: back at when you're in C two B the only

1547
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: device you had that can kind of keep you saying

1548
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: when you're locked in yourself for twenty three hours and

1549
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 1: you couldn't see a TV if you didn't have to sell,

1550
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: you couldn't definitely hear it. But if you could see it,

1551
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: you can watch it. But whatever, who's going to stand

1552
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: at the door for nineteen hours or twenty hours out

1553
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: of the day. Is you got a radio, you know,

1554
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: and DC, you had c SPAN, you had the NWA,

1555
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 1: the Mall. You had all these radio stations, and they

1556
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: were conservatives. And I want to say that even the

1557
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: narrative has changed now over the last four years of

1558
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 1: some key prominent people, right, and the tide has turned.

1559
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 1: Radio was all we had.

1560
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, you had the J six Committee and all its splendor,

1561
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 7: and you brought that clown show to bear and those

1562
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 7: guys were reading their narrative off the paper, complete and

1563
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,439
Speaker 7: utter lie.

1564
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 5: I want my turn.

1565
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 7: I want to stand before the eyes of Congress and

1566
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 7: I want to testify. I don't need paper to tell

1567
01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 7: me what to say and what to do.

1568
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 1: I got production or production cruise dough too.

1569
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,560
Speaker 7: We don't need a Hollywood production crew anything. Dan and

1570
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,799
Speaker 7: I can do it standing there and battle and combat

1571
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 7: any topic, any theory that you may have against us,

1572
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 7: and back it up with hardcore video.

1573
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: You know, the right people since Trumpet won, have been

1574
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: putting key positions and the right people in place now,

1575
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:23,680
Speaker 1: and we're asking you.

1576
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 5: We put it to you. I command you bring us forward.

1577
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 1: There's a mandate that this needs to come to truth,

1578
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: and we're asking Pambondi. You know you have a great

1579
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: pull in your position to really help us release the

1580
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 1: MPD videos. You know, there's reason Judicial Watch has been

1581
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: trying to get these videos for years and they can't.

1582
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: So the time is over. Everybody's been pardoning. There's no

1583
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: more crimes, there's no more charges coming up. It's time

1584
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: for truth. You know, Cash Betel, We're so happy you're there.

1585
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Dan Bongino, I've listened to you for four years, even

1586
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: when I was in the BOP. I listened to you

1587
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 1: at twelve, you know, eleven toolat in the Dallas area.

1588
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: I applaud you for your involvement with Julie Kelly and

1589
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,799
Speaker 1: getting to the point to where this was a feeds direction.

1590
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:17,679
Speaker 1: There are a lot of things that need be answered

1591
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: to this, and I'm asking you in Cash Betel and

1592
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: the FBI to investigate that. Look at how many people

1593
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: were in the crowd. Let's get this to truth. We

1594
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: need this, The American needs this. You wanted to heal,

1595
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: you want to come to fruition. American needs to hell.

1596
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:31,640
Speaker 1: Truth is the only way to do it.

1597
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 5: You guys, you want to be an official.

1598
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 7: You want to be in a position that makes a choice,

1599
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 7: makes a command decision. Now's your opportunity to step forward.

1600
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 7: What will you do when they come for you?

1601
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 5: What will you do? Well? They came for me and

1602
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 5: they took everything that I have. I had nothing left.

1603
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 7: I was ready to retire, and all of a sudden,

1604
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 7: a friend of mine asked me to go to this

1605
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 7: clown show and I got sucked into it and we

1606
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 7: lost it. All four years of my life, four years

1607
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 7: of my children's lives gone never to return, and now

1608
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 7: they're often running on their own. Come on, man, do

1609
01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,560
Speaker 7: what you say, stand up, walk the walk. If you

1610
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 7: talk to talk just like when we had the congressmen

1611
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 7: and women come into our cell block and want to

1612
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 7: talk to us. I tried to pass off.

1613
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 5: A note that read torture, interrogation, isolation. I need help.

1614
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 7: They wouldn't take my note. Oh it's a piece of radioactivity. Cowardy,

1615
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 7: cowardice under fire, just like that clown that wrote the

1616
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 7: book Courage under Fire. Yeah, I saw that, and you

1617
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 7: know what it should say, cowardice under fire.

1618
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,639
Speaker 1: Sissies, Well, you know a lot of motions the Titus.

1619
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 1: As Jeff said, we lost it all. You know, we've

1620
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,320
Speaker 1: done four years in jail, unbelieved. There's this solitary confinement.

1621
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 1: And we're not the only two. There was a lot

1622
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: of great brothers in there. And if you all know

1623
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: who you are, I'm not gonna name names on here,

1624
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: but you know we love you, we know who you are,

1625
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: and we're going to support you in any way we can.

1626
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: And if this is a little thing to get some

1627
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: kind of freedom back to your family and some dignity

1628
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 1: where you can hold your head. You know, I traveled

1629
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: here this weekend right with my son and this has

1630
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,599
Speaker 1: probably been the most of it with him.

1631
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 7: That it's all right, bro, we speak for you, guys,

1632
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 7: we're speaking for you. Call me, you call me out

1633
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 7: and you tell us what to say. You tell Dan

1634
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 7: and I what to say, and we will get it

1635
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 7: out there. We command you to bring us before court.

1636
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 5: I want to do it. I'm ready, We're ready. It's

1637
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,799
Speaker 5: not the ammunition to fight the battle.

1638
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: There's nothing stopping us other than people making decisions. And

1639
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 1: I ask you guys all out there. You've got us

1640
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: out this far. There's great support for pardons and getting

1641
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: us here this far. So many people were involved in that.

1642
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,480
Speaker 1: We're asking you as the public to call you, Congressman,

1643
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: to get involved, to get them to say, Jay six

1644
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 1: years need to be in front of Congress. There needs

1645
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: to be a new path that the truth comes out,

1646
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 1: you know, and it's possible. Look at the how far

1647
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: we've come so far, and.

1648
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 5: When everybody back door to us.

1649
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 7: Man, my entire crew at work were told they had

1650
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 7: a meeting and we're told not to talk to me

1651
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 7: or reach out or communicate with me. As soon as

1652
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 7: I got arrested, as soon as my face made the video,

1653
01:31:18,439 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 7: that was excommunicated right then and there.

1654
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 5: And I want to think, we want to.

1655
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 7: Think all of this comes down to the support that

1656
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 7: we had from everybody, and the letters and the money

1657
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,600
Speaker 7: for our gifts and ghost I'm still living off that

1658
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 7: money and it is spent to the nth degree for

1659
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:44,480
Speaker 7: the best interest of my children and the survivability of myself.

1660
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 7: Without it, I would be out there panhandling. I would

1661
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 7: be a homeless veteran instantly.

1662
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: All of you people out there helped us get out

1663
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,560
Speaker 1: because you voted for Trump. Trump is in office, and

1664
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 1: I want to say that this man has fortitude that

1665
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: the yeah could ever imagine. And we oh sitting right

1666
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 1: here today along with being able to talk as we

1667
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 1: talked many times, where we get together again.

1668
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 5: We're going to do that.

1669
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 1: We would not be here without Donald Trump. And thank you,

1670
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 1: President Trump. I owe you my freedom.

1671
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 7: We we we thank you, sir. Thank you so very

1672
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 7: much for mentioning us. And it was so enlightening even

1673
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 7: other prisoners when I was in Texas.

1674
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: This has been something that I know has probably been

1675
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 1: very hard. You haven't done this before, and to give

1676
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: us this platform, it means the world to me. You know,

1677
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: real America's voice. This is something that Jay six Ers

1678
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 1: need and if this is the baby step we need

1679
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 1: to get to Congress. We are more than willing to

1680
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:50,040
Speaker 1: fight that fight.

1681
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you so very much.

1682
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: So we're winding down, man, it's coming down to this.

1683
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 5: It bro you not in there.

1684
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: We kind of took part in an amazing song that

1685
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: was involved with us and a lot of the patriots.

1686
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 5: We've got a chance to make a record, the DC.

1687
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Goolg President Trump and he just got his part into

1688
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:08,240
Speaker 1: it too.

1689
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 5: So the greatest national anthems ever, you.

1690
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:13,560
Speaker 1: Know, So as we talk about that, just just know that,

1691
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 1: you know everybody knows it. Nine o'clock every night we

1692
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 1: sat and sing this anthem, you know, to the phones,

1693
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: to the people out there, list to freedom, to freedom corner.

1694
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 1: Everybody's out there for three years straight, four years. So

1695
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,799
Speaker 1: just thank you for ladies. And you know, Cowboy Logic

1696
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: has closed, you know, their show for the last three

1697
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 1: years with the most beautiful anthem ever sung and Jeff

1698
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: and I included in this. You know, we just thank

1699
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 1: you for this opportunity.

1700
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,559
Speaker 7: Just ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your valuable time

1701
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 7: and your effort, and thank you Cowboy Logic.

1702
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,599
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Now's the time, gentlemen, remove your hats.

1703
01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands on your hearts, and

1704
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: let's do this national anthem.

1705
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 5: And so.

1706
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 4: I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

1707
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 4: of America, who rides and.

1708
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 3: Ride and lost, to

1709
01:34:41,280 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 1: Square, and to the Republic for which it stands, one

1710
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:36,240
Speaker 1: nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all,