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Eighty 29 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: five seca beth Rot run in NFL history. 30 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: History, Pro Bowl Blast six should have been seven. 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: Bengals Ring of Famer Schad O Joe sink Johnson, O Joe. 32 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 5: What's going on, bro Man. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 5: I'm happy. I'm glad to be here again. It just 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 5: it's something about the day. 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: I was excited and just waiting for this opportunity to 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 4: be on the show to night because I got so 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 4: much to talk about. I have so much to get 38 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: off my chest, and that's pretty much it. 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Make sure you click that subscribe button 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: to make sure that you are notified anytime Nightcap is available. 47 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: Unk and O Joe. 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: The Vikings hand Niners the second straight loss twenty two 49 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: seventeen brock Perty twenty one of thirty two seventy two 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: one touchdowns, two picks, Kirk Cousins thirty five or forty 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: five three seventy eight two touchdo one pick. Jordan Addison 52 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: had a night when Justin Jefferson was out nursing that 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 2: hamstring injury. He had seven catches above twenty three and 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: two touches. What was one of your big takeaway from 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: the nice game, Ojo? 56 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: My biggest takeaway from the night's game. I said it 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: before the game even started. I tweeted out, I said, 58 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: Jordan Addison and Hockinson have to have a day. They 59 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: got to have a day as long as Brian flore 60 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: As and the defense did what they needed to do. 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: They did just that McCaffrey well into the third quarter, 62 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: didn't have over three yards of carry, didn't have a 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: They stifle, They stifle kittles until I think, what maybe 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: late in the third quarter he had an over route. 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: Now that was his longest, longest catch of the day. 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 4: The defense did their job two interceptions, But offensively, I 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: think the most important thing on why the Vikings won 68 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: the game. Of course they scored, but on third down 69 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: they were above seventy percent well into the fourth quarter 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: on third down, being able to get those first downs 71 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: and keep those drive going and score points. It's one 72 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: of the reasons why they won the game, outside of 73 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 4: the defense planing some goddamn good football. 74 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the forty nine ers could not get off the 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: field on third down, and that's that's when you lose 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: the game, because you give them three more cracks at you. 77 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: You do a great job. 78 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: You can stop them on first down, you stop them 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: on second down, and you're like, Okay, we're one down 80 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: away from getting off the field, getting giving our offense 81 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: and opportunity to get back, and they could not get 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: up the field on third down. But it seems like 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: to me Brian Flores what he went into this game said, 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: you know what, Christian McAffrey is not running this football. 85 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 2: We won't the elite rock party. We want the ball 86 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: in his hand and we want him to throw the ball. 87 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: And you know they got that swing past to McCaffrey. 88 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 2: They call him in a blitz on the back side, 89 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: they swing it out the wide receiver. 90 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: We do a great job of blocking. 91 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 5: Blocking, Murphy. 92 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: Got to make that tackle, man, Murphy Murphy playing around. 93 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 5: He got to make that tackle. 94 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 1: Man. 95 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: But what do you take away I'm looking at I'm 96 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: looking at defenses and the way they're going to approach 97 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, especially with no Debo and Trent, 98 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: because I thought they did. 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: A great job of protecting considering Trent wasn't in there. 100 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: But they shut down McCaffrey and the run game and 101 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: put the ball in brock Perty' sayd says, we don't 102 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: believe you can beat us, right. 103 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: I think, well, you know what, not only did they 104 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 4: believe that he couldn't beat us, they did a great 105 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: job obviously stopping the game, but the secondary played really 106 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: well as what played really good as well, being able 107 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 4: to stop kittles with Debo being out. Obviously, Trent Williams 108 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 4: Trim William not being being in there. They did a 109 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: great job in the secondary. I'm not sure what defense 110 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: Brian Flores ran tonight. I'm not sure what it was. 111 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 4: A yeah, that too, But but what is that telling us? 112 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: What is that telling us? Brandon Nyuka is out there? 113 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 4: Are we saying that they can't get open against Man? 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: Well he played, I mean Brandon Nyuk, he called from passes. 115 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: I mean they were going to him early. He did 116 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: a great job. Even Jennings got going late, but it 117 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: was in between, you know, the turnover. It seemed like 118 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: the forty nine ers of drive about to open the game. 119 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: After they pickoff Cousins early in the ball, they're driving 120 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: down the field. McCaffrey costs it up and instead of 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: getting seven three out of that drive, here comes to 122 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: Minnesota back. They put a drive in the end zone 123 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: and so instead of being up seven nothing, three nothing, 124 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: you find yourself down seven nothing. 125 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, And one of the balls selled on One of 126 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: the balls selled on Brock I think it might have 127 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: been a dig route. I think it might have been 128 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: a dig right. He was trying to throw it. Sel 129 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: sailed a little bit and once I can't remember his 130 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: last name. 131 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 5: It was his last name. I got the interception. 132 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: Once he got that second one, I knew, I had 133 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: a feeling it was going. I had a feeling he 134 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 4: was gonna throw a pick, because whenever you put the 135 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: ball in the quarterback's hands and you have to score 136 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: at that point, defensively. 137 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 5: You can cheat it a little bit. 138 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: You con cheated it because you know they got an 139 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: in stair way down the football field and not just 140 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 4: take one huge chunk right. 141 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: But when you look at it, you could tell early 142 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: on that the ball was sailing on him. He threw 143 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: one early to Kittle and got killed hitting the growing, 144 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: So the ball was selling on him early, and so 145 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: it felt like, you know what, it might be a 146 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: problem tonight. Him being able to control the football. I'm 147 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: surprised considering that work. They are indoors and there is 148 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: no element that's in play. You have a seventy two 149 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: degree controlled environment. So I thought he would have better 150 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: control of the football than what he showed. But give 151 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 2: give the Minnesota Vikings credit their defense. And how about 152 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: Cousins thirty five or forty five, three seventy eight, two touchdowns, 153 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: one pick and playing well in a primetime game. 154 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: We know Jesson Jefferson, No, JJ, we know. 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: We we beat him up when he plays bad primetime 156 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night. 157 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: But tonight he was the main, the main reason. Can 158 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 4: we call him elite for tonight? I'm just asking based 159 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: on listen, numbers don't lie. Numbers don't lie, oh Joe, 160 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: But we got to start. If a guy had a 161 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 4: good game, he's elite. If he plays bad, he's a 162 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 4: bad can. 163 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: What is asking? 164 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm just asking what is. 165 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: Kirk cousins body of work shown you over a decade? 166 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: Has his body of work showed you that he's elite? 167 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 5: Now, it's been up and down. 168 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: But but what Kirk has showed us is that he's capable. 169 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 4: He's capable of playing consistent football and making sure and 170 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: giving his team a chance to win. He just hasn't 171 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: crossed over that hump yet. But he's consistently, consistently in 172 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: the regular season. He's good enough to get there. They 173 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 4: just haven't gotten over that hump. 174 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: Good old look good enough to get where where we're exactly. 175 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: They're into the playoffs. 176 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, they They always on the verge 177 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: for the for the past ten years. 178 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he just he's like, he's like, he's not elite, 179 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: but he's like. 180 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 4: He's like right there, right right on the verge, right 181 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 4: right right on the right on the verge. 182 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: What's what's wrong with being in here? Okay? 183 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 2: If elite's right here and the floor is right here, 184 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: why can't a guy be in between there? 185 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: Why does he have to be this or that? 186 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, but listen, he's not He's not that far 187 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: below when you talk about the floor. He right right 188 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: underneath the Tier one quarterbacks. He's right there underneath. Based 189 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: on the body of work that he's put that he's 190 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 4: put up the past decade. 191 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: Is he is all right? Forty nine ers had three 192 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: turnovers in the first six games. They had three turnovers 193 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: a night. And remember, when a team is down some 194 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: of their best players, if you're a better football team 195 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 2: and you turn the ball over, either you go down 196 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: to their level or you raise them up to your level, 197 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: one of the two, whichever one you choose to do. 198 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: But that's what you do when you turn the ball over. 199 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: But give them Minesota credit because they turned the ball 200 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: over also and they still found a way to win 201 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: this ball. 202 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: Win one of the things that they were able to stop, 203 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: and there was no sign of brother Nick Bosa. 204 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, they didn't really get pressure over. I thought 205 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: they would do a pressure. 206 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would I would have thought they would have. 207 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 4: And the fact that Kirk Cousin was able to sit 208 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: in the pocket with bodies around him and facilitate the 209 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: ball at will was amazing to see. And the funny 210 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 4: thing about it, this entire week of football has been weird. 211 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 5: Would you consider this upset? 212 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely. The Nineers were seven point favorite. 213 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: Not only was the ninety to seven point favorite. The 214 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 4: Patriots beat the Bills, the Steelers beat the Rams obviously, 215 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 4: and the Viking just now beating the forty nine ers. 216 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: Who whatever thought. 217 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: I know a lot of people, a lot of gambling 218 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 4: and bending people are set at the state of games 219 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: that happened this week. 220 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: Well, this is this is one thing. 221 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: After watching Kirk Cousins through the years, we know that 222 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: you got to pressure him if you and this look, 223 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: this is not earth shattering news. I'm not interrupting your 224 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: normally scheduled programming telling you something you didn't know. Most quarterbacks, 225 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: when you punch them in their mouth, it well, you 226 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: talk about the great Montana, Brady Manning, Elway, whomever. When 227 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: you pressure them, you greatly reduced their success rate. 228 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: But Kirk Cousins, we know it is even magnified. 229 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: Because those the league guys sometimes when you pressure them, 230 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: they still will look down the barrel and make a throw. 231 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: But we've seen Cousins over the years. He kind of folds. 232 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: He succumbs to a lot of that pressure. But tonight 233 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: they didn't get pressure on him, and his. 234 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: Stat line shows that they didn't get pressure on him. 235 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: That thirty five or forty five three seventy eight two 236 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: touchdowns on a pick. So in this division, do you 237 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: think the Vikings can give the Lions trouble? I think 238 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: the Lions. I think even though they lost handedly yesterday 239 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: to the Ravens, I still believe that this is the 240 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: Lion's division to lose. 241 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 5: I think it is still the Lion's division. 242 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: The Lions are playing really good football right now, and 243 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: I think even though they are coming off of a loss, 244 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: they're going to respond extremely well in their next game. 245 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 4: The Vikings without Justin Jefferson aren't beating the Lions. And 246 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: I think even with Justin Jefferson coming back and them 247 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: having to work him back in slowly, even though he's 248 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: coming off injury. I think it's too much too much 249 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 4: ground to make up to actually unsee the Lions and 250 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: winning and winning that division. 251 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 5: Too much, too much ground to make up. 252 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: Okay, it was announced today that the Miami Dolphins will 253 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: be featured on HBO Hard Knocks. I guess it's for 254 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: the rest of the season, right, for the rest of 255 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 2: the season. Obviously, they have very compelling storyline. Mike McDaniel, Hey, 256 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: he loved to have fun. They do his interview and 257 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: he takes off running. He's very animated on the sideline. 258 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: He's very jovial. You got too in his story You 259 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: got Tyreek in that track team. So I think it's 260 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: a very compelling storyline. You and I were both on 261 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: the show. We started. I was in Baltimore in two 262 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: thousand and one and we kicked off Hard Knocks. Yeah, 263 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: you were on the fifth and the seventh season. Talk 264 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: about some of your experience with the cameras and having 265 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 2: to try to offer the fans a glimpse of a 266 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: day in the life of a player that's in training camp, 267 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 2: being a veteran player. 268 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: Listen, that was one of the best experiences to me, obviously, 269 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: allowing people to see what it's like inside inside of 270 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 4: training camp, seeing the way the work ethic that not 271 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 4: just I put in, but my teammates, what goes into 272 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 4: day to day practices, our schedules, as far as meetings. 273 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: Obviously the cutthrow part of the business. Obviously you know 274 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: when it's when it's time to get cut. But it 275 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: was fun. It was very fun, just just being myself, 276 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: being authentic, being being my my going organic self. And 277 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it. It was the birth. 278 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 4: It was the birthing of child. Please one of my sayings, 279 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: and kiss the baby and some other stuff like that. 280 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: And it just a lot of people to see a 281 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 4: different side of a different side of us outside of 282 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: seeing the finished product on Sundays at one o'clock and 283 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 4: what I like to call the politically the politically correct 284 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 4: interviews that we do on Sundays after games. 285 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 5: I think that. 286 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: That that's hard Knocks is really good because it shows 287 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 4: a different side of all the players. 288 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it gives you an opportunity the players getting ready, 289 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: the meeting time, how much meeting time, the prep work, 290 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: guys getting massages, and the guys getting in the cold 291 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: dub and the guys doing things to get ready, because 292 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: you break you down, you break your body down, and 293 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: then somehow you got to get it back together for 294 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: the next day at practice, and and and and the 295 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: and the difficult side, some of these players dreams will 296 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: go unrealized. You made it there, but this is as 297 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: far as it goes. And the realization that my dream 298 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: of being an NFL player is not going to materialize. 299 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: And now I've got to branch back into the real 300 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 2: world and get it. 301 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: You had a great run. 302 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: You're probably a pretty good high school player, good the 303 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: great high school player, had a good had a very 304 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: good excuse me, college career, but that next level isn't 305 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: going to happen to you. And sometimes watching the guys 306 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: because you get you get close to some of the 307 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: guys and you see how hard and how much work 308 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: they put into it, and then to realize that you 309 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: know what it's over now. 310 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, that's a that's a tough job. That's a 311 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: tough tough job to do it, especial for coaches. And 312 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: when you get there, when you hear that knock on 313 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: the door, you know and say, man, that's Man, that 314 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: has to be one of the worst feelings. And the 315 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: fact that, obviously hard nuts is cut it out. I 316 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 4: think I think they cut out that part where they 317 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: where they show people getting released. 318 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 5: Now right, they no longer show that. Listen, list it's. 319 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 4: It's honest, it's it's just it's just the truth of 320 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 4: the business, and it's it's just the way it is. Obviously, 321 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: my childhood dream, it wasn't even to be a NFL player. 322 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 5: I wanted to be a veterinarian. I wanted to be 323 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: a marine biologist because I love dogs and I love 324 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 5: killer whales. 325 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: But the fact that Grandma, obviously with football being my 326 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: outlet and something for me to do based on the 327 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: area where I was in, because it's either your plan 328 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: sports and there's no other route, I definitely wanted to 329 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: be no academic scholar. I can be honest with you. 330 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna be honest with you. Hey listen, but listen, listen. 331 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: Grandma is the reason I was able to make it, Man. 332 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: And that day when I saw that name, when I 333 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 4: saw that name go across that across that tickericker, yeah 334 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: she was. She was the first one I went to, 335 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: Man and I told her, I say, mommy, we made it. 336 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 5: Man. 337 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 4: She told me, listen, this is just the beginning of 338 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 4: your journey, right, it is again and then and then 339 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: it starts all back over again. It's a it's an 340 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: entire different set of goals that I had to set 341 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: and conquered. 342 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're actually absolutely right. 343 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: And that's what a lot of times I tell the guys, 344 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: I say, this is the end, this is the beginning. 345 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 2: So now this is step one. You're here making the team. 346 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: Now is it just good enough that you made the team? 347 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: What do you want to be? I didn't want to 348 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: be a guy, just the guy. I wanted to be 349 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: the guy I wanted to be depended on. I wanted 350 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: the guys. I wanted people to have my jersey. I 351 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: wanted people to like throw the ball to Sharp. I 352 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: wanted my team and say, hey, man, get up, Man, 353 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: get up thanking the Sharp, get up, thank the Shark. 354 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: That's what I wanted to hear. It wasn't good enough, 355 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: like I'm on the team. Oh yeah, I played for 356 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: the Broncos. What position do you play? 357 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: You know? Do you start or what do you do? No? No, no, 358 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: no no no. I needed people to know. 359 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: I needed what when my grandmother turned the TV over, 360 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: my sister would turn the TV onto the channel that 361 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: we're going to be on that she knew her baby 362 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 2: was out there. Yeah, live, I saw my baby. He 363 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: was he had a good game. So that for me, 364 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: that was my goal. That's what it was, not just 365 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: getting to the NFL, because I'm always dreaming. But now 366 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: that I'm here, I can't go back. 367 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 5: Right right listen. 368 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: I had no choice could go back because, like my 369 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 4: grandma told me, I got in trouble at Lang's University 370 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 4: and I got thrown out of school. And I told you, 371 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 4: I came home on the plane and she said, I 372 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: washed my hands with you. I've done all I can do, 373 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 4: and ship me to my mama. There was no coming back. 374 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 4: So once I made it, once I got the opportunity 375 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 4: in the NFL, there were no more doors. There were 376 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: no more doors I could walk through us. I had 377 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 4: no choice but to make it work. And of course 378 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 4: I get drafted by the Bengals. At that time, we 379 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 4: were the laughing stock of the NFL, and I got 380 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: my homeboys in the hood. You know, we in Liberty City. 381 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: We celebrated like Lee o Cho. Well, you went to 382 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 4: the Bengals. 383 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: They laughing. 384 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: Was like, listen, give me a year or two and 385 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: it won't be so funny. I said, give me a 386 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 4: year or two and I will do all I can 387 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: to make sure we're not the laughing stock of the league. 388 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: But I would make us fun to watch again. I 389 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: would give that city and those fans something to be 390 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: proud of. I would make people happy and feel okay 391 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: wearing jerseys Cincinnati jerseys outside of Cincinnati, and I think 392 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 4: I just did that. 393 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 5: Obviously. 394 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 4: The end goal is to have a Lombardi Trophy, but 395 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 4: that's a team, that's a that's a team achievement and accomplishment. 396 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 5: I wouldn't. I fell short of that, but everything else 397 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 5: I lived up to. 398 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: But going back, what was I going back to? The 399 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: reason I thought so hard was I didn't have to 400 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: go back, go back to visit, but I wasn't going 401 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: back to state. There was nothing. There was nothing. There 402 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: was no gravitational puol. And that's why I didn't understand OJO. 403 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: I had guys, I had teammates in college when I 404 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: got to Savannah State in eighty six, and I remember 405 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: there are guys and they even I can remember guys 406 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 2: that were very talented, but they're like, man, sharp, this 407 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: ain't for me. Man, I got to get back home. 408 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: I mean be it was a girl that I mean. 409 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: I had a couple of teammate that had girlfriends back 410 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: home and they were whole sick. You serious him out? 411 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: Are you serious? Yeah? Da dead ass, Yes, they had 412 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: to go back. I had. I had a teammate. I 413 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: had a teammate that was so good. 414 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: He was. 415 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: Uh, he went to he got he was, he went 416 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: to the league. 417 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna call his name because I'm not gonnambarrass him, 418 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: but yeah, he wanted he wanted to come back and 419 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: hang with his home boys. 420 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: You want to come back and hang with his home boys? 421 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 5: Dead ass? 422 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: He was. He was good. 423 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: He was His feet, his feet was as good as 424 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: any dB that I faced. I'm not saying he was 425 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: the best dB that I faced, even in the league. 426 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: But his feet, the way he could get in and 427 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: out of breaks, the way he could flip his hips. 428 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: But he wanted to be with his homeboys. 429 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: Help me, help me understand. 430 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 4: I've been playing the game of football since I was 431 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 4: four years old, having a dream, obviously of reaching the 432 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: childhood pinnacle of my dreams of being an NFL player 433 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 4: and getting the opportunity, getting the opportunity to do so. 434 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 5: And his first thought was I want to go home, 435 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 5: hang on my homeboys. 436 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 2: But that was your dream. I'm not so sure that 437 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 2: was his dream. He happened to be good at it. 438 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: He was good at it in high school, he was 439 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: good at it in college. But I mean, at a 440 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: certain point in time it comes you have to make 441 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: up your mind, how good do I want to be 442 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: and do I want to make this a career? 443 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Right? 444 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: Because you know, once you get that level, everybody, everybody 445 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: was All Conference, everybody was an honorable mentioned All America 446 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: and got a Bruckers. 447 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: And see, the thing is, O Jodan, this is what 448 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: I tell people. 449 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: Whenever you come to the Broncos or whenever you came 450 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: to the Ravens, whatever ward you want, we had to 451 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: see what it deserved. Whether you were the Buckers, whether 452 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 2: whether you were the Thorpe you want a Heisman trophy, 453 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: you were all American. 454 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: I needed to see. 455 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 4: Why, right right, right right, Hey, that's hard to picture, man, 456 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 4: that's hard to picture. 457 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 5: I'm trying to wrap my head around. 458 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: Even though even if that wasn't his dream, to be 459 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 4: able to reach the pinnacle of being one of the 460 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: one percent, Like, how do you say that and want 461 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: to go back home? 462 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: Go back home and do what? How many home boy 463 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: you had in high school that was. 464 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I dropped out to smoke weed, dropped out. 465 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: I know, I know people, I know people gonna see this. 466 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: That's from that's from Miami. I had so many people 467 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: from Miami Central, from Miami Northwestern. 468 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 5: Keeling High School. I can go. 469 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 4: I can go through so many high so many schools 470 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: where people were much better than I was. I was decent, 471 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm like I like to call it, I 472 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,239 Speaker 4: was a late bloomer. I was a late blooming. There 473 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 4: was some dudes that I knew were going to the 474 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: NFL that were much better than me, and for whatever reason, 475 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what happened obviously, once I left the college. 476 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: You know, we all lose track at some point, we 477 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: lose track at each other. But dude, there are people 478 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: that I looked up to in high school. To this day, 479 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: I can name them off. I wanted to be like 480 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 4: them growing up. Magic Ben Marquie Cooper, Cedric Cherry uh 481 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: Snoop Minace uh Lynn Coleman sat, well, hold on, hold on, 482 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 4: I can I can go it make I got chills, 483 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: just not right now. I think about some of them dudes, 484 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 4: man too to add, well, I can keep going. Man, 485 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 4: it's so many, dude. I want to be like all 486 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: them boys, and I look up to them. 487 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 5: And one of the reads not not Cedric, what's role Damn? 488 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 5: What's his name? What's his name? From? Norlan Man? No? 489 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 4: Not not smart? Because somebody played with me, remember tomorrow 490 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: with the scene. I was a freshman at Beach Eye. 491 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 4: He played receiver at Oh my role on my role? 492 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 5: Play play play receiver like. I wanted to be like them. 493 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: And one of the things that kept me going was 494 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: watching them play when I was younger, and I just 495 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 4: wanted to make it. I just want to be I 496 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: wanted to be like Magic, you know. I wanted to 497 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 4: be like man, Oh my goodness, Tyrone Butterfield, Ronald Washington, 498 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 4: all these dudes. Like I'm like, oh my goodness, I 499 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: want to be like them. And I think the drive 500 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 4: and me want to be successful like them is what 501 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 4: got me to the NFL. And still to this day, 502 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 4: I ain't seen these boys and so long, but this 503 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 4: is one of the few times I've been on the 504 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 4: platform that of them, they probably gonna see this. Man, 505 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all because they is part of my motivation. 506 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: I just would I never saw them to be able 507 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 4: to let them know. 508 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of the best part about 509 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: Hard Knocks. We get back on subject with the Hard Knocks, 510 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: is that when I have no, no, no, we're good. 511 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: Uh. That's the one thing that we do. We get 512 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: to talk about what we want to talk about. 513 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, look, people, you you're tuning in for 514 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 2: the football takes, but you stay for the stories, uh 515 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: that I had because I thought like, kind of like 516 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: after we did it, it kind of like a lot 517 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: of other people wanted to get in the line, like 518 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: I give Brian Bill, like I give Ozzie and credit 519 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: for this. It's about the players, so Goose myself recipes, 520 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: Goose raids. God, it was about us and let us 521 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: give us an opportunity to show our personality because a 522 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: lot of times it is about playing pranks. It is 523 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 2: about playing jokes on one another and doing things I 524 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: wish you could like if they could have a when 525 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: we were when when I went back to Denver, how 526 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: we used to steal teammates car, drive them off for like, 527 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: drive them like a mile. You could see it in 528 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: the dissteps we take, we leave it. We lead a 529 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: car running with the doors over. So now you look 530 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 2: up there on to here, you look up that like man, 531 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: man searp man, Why you do that matter? I don't 532 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: know what you're talking about, bro, I'm at practice. How 533 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 2: you how I take your car way up there, leave 534 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 2: it on running with the doors open, man, and then 535 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: when they get out, the battery dead. 536 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 537 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: Or we would take their clothes in the cold tank 538 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: when they get out, put them in the freezer when 539 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: they get out, they steal. Man, ain't know what they 540 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: did this, But syap, bro, why sharp did everything? Why 541 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: I gotta beat the guy? Y'all blame me? 542 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 5: They got me good my rookie year. I never forget 543 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 5: I had. 544 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 4: I had an I S three hundred, I S three 545 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: hundred and first car ever, first guy I didn't have. 546 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: I didn't have a car until I got to the NFL. 547 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 4: I had a little smaller I S three hundred. And 548 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 4: they turned my car on, roll the windows down, and 549 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 4: somebody took the fire extinguisher and they spread the fire 550 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 4: extinguisher and let it off in the car are So 551 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 4: when I woke up the following morning, the entire interior 552 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 4: is all white. So now I come out. I come out, 553 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: I'm thirty eight hot, I'm like yo. 554 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 5: I go to I go to coach. It was Dick 555 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 5: Labou at the time. 556 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 4: I go to Dick Labo, I say, coach, coach lebo man, 557 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 4: somebody playing around my car. 558 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: Man, I just got this, like what we're doing. And 559 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: then he explained to me how it goes on in 560 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 5: the NFL. You're rookie. It's a part of the haters, 561 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 5: a part of the routine. Boom. 562 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 4: Same day, on the same day, I go to practice. 563 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: My clothes I wore to go to practice. 564 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: I come in. 565 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 4: They soaking in the cold tub. Yep, they didn't put 566 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: they didn't put my clothes in the cold tub. So 567 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 4: now I'm hot and I want to fight. And then 568 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: until I find out it's the goddamn d Limon. It's 569 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 4: the goddamn it's the goddamn d Limon playing jokes. I 570 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 4: ain't want no part of that. Yeah, I ain't want 571 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: no part of that. 572 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: We did all kind of stuff. I mean, we got 573 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: we like, okay, you know, because we like to wait 574 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: till the last minute. We already got our path, you know, 575 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: got our pants on, and so we know we're gonna 576 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: grab your pants like the lake. So we're gonna put 577 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna put powder, or we'll put water in from 578 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: your shoulder pans. So we reached up there and pull 579 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 2: him down. Yeah, dumping on you nail the locker shut. 580 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: So I go back theail the locker show Lockershew, they 581 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: can't get in it. 582 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: What about. 583 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 4: What about the baby powder baby your helm and the 584 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 4: baby the baby powdered the helmet or you put the 585 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: helmet on. 586 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 2: Or we put or we put a warm knicker bar 587 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: in your helmet and you put it on. Chocolate and everything. Hey, 588 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: but that was it. I mean, look, that was to 589 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: get through. But you know, but you knew who to 590 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 2: do that to and who not to do that to. 591 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: Definitely definitely calls a fight. Now get ugly now you 592 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: know you knew who to play with and who not 593 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: to play with. Sean Payton says he got sushi with 594 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 2: the family, even though he doesn't eat sushi or he 595 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: doesn't like sushi. He says, I'm driving home last night 596 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: heading to get sushi. I don't like sushi, and I 597 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: find myself circling around the pocket lot. Why can't I 598 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 2: be Why can't I be happy? Well, you're searching for 599 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: the perfect game. I'm just that way. I'm a good 600 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: team player here. My wife likes it, my kids like it. Hell, 601 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: everyone at the party likes it. So I'm a team player. 602 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: My children would never take take me to a sushi restaurant. 603 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: I barely even order alcohol in front of me. Are 604 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: you that big of a team player? That is something 605 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: that you don't like? And most sushi restaurants that's all 606 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: they got. It's not like they got a diverse menu 607 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: that you can choose from. Okay, you know what, I 608 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 2: want a burger, Okay, you know what. I think I'm 609 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: gonna get a chicken most of the time when it's sushi. 610 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: That's kind of what the menu. Because I'm not so 611 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: sure you going to a restaurant that has a diverse menu, 612 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: that has sushi, has burger, half pize, sons and stuff 613 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: like that. Now, so you're kind of limited when you 614 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: go to a sushi restaurant. Are you a team player? 615 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 616 00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 5: I think I'm a team player. To an extra. 617 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: But if my team, if my team and my family, 618 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: my wife and my kids actually love me, I don't 619 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: think they will put me in a position to take 620 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 4: me somewhere where they know I'm not going to enjoy 621 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 4: the food. And that's including my woman too. I would 622 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 4: hope you know, you don't force me to do something. Yes, 623 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 4: so you can say, well, if. 624 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 5: You love me, you'll do it. 625 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 4: Well, if you love me, you wouldn't have had me 626 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 4: doing something that you know I don't like before you 627 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 4: met me, right, I would hope so. 628 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 5: But I understand where I understand where sawn is coming from. 629 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 4: If the kids like it, if the wife likes it, 630 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: that's a part of marriage, that's a part of being 631 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 4: a relationship. 632 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 5: It's called sacrifice. Sometimes you got to do it. 633 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're right, You're right. It's tough. But 634 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm very fortunate that my kids know my palette right, 635 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: and so they know, like, okay, when they build this, 636 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: when they talk about going not to eat the first thing, 637 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 2: I mean, they know me so well, Okay, what is 638 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: Daddy going to eat? 639 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 5: Mm hm. 640 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: So they think it though, even though it's them, it's 641 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: like they know Thataddy is going to only eat certain 642 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: things and so and daddy is probably and daddy's paying 643 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: for it. 644 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 1: So let's make sure. 645 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: Let's make sure, let's make let's make sure daddy, daddy 646 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 2: likes it. 647 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: You know what I do like though, when now now 648 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: that we're on the top of restaurants and eating my 649 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 4: kids obviously, you know I have a lot of kids, 650 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 4: and I have I have two divas at maybe three. 651 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 5: I have one that's a little bit more Leeyan. I 652 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 5: have two divas. 653 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 4: Shot a in Jaciro, shut shout in Jakira, and they 654 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: are five star eating, dress up, giving looks, make a 655 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: pair last year. Everything got to be done now for them, 656 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 4: for them too. I don't care where you want to go. 657 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: You want to go to Poppy State, you want to 658 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: go to Zooma, all those all those nice restaurants. Will 659 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: I would the highest stuff. I will take the time 660 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: out to go in there and fake it, right, I 661 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: would go. I would go in the fake it because 662 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 4: it's not a it's not an all the time thing. 663 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: It's just it's an occasion. Obviously, everybody's in college. You know, 664 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 4: my daughter's out in La So anytime we're home and 665 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: we can all get together, I have no problem being 666 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: a team player when it comes to them. 667 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: But the best part about it is my kids are 668 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 2: really not finicky. They're pretty much I mean, they're I 669 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: think because of the way that when we went out 670 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: we kind of went to like American Fair, we didn't 671 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: really we didn't really branch out. So we were like, Okay, 672 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: let's let's go get sushi, or let's go to let's 673 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: go get tied, or let's go get you know, we 674 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: didn't we didn't do that. So for the most part, 675 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: they're like, okay, we're going. Yeah, we went to high 676 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: end state restaurants and things of that nature, so that's 677 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 2: kind of where their palete is now. I think my 678 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: youngest I think Pooh will eat sushi. I think does. 679 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm not so sure about Kayla. Uh, she's She's never 680 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: mentioned it to me. But I think my youngest daughter, Pooh, 681 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: I think she does eat it and sushi already sushi. Yeah, 682 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 2: my kids grown, bro, I ain't got no young kids 683 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: like you. 684 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: No, hell no, Listen. 685 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 4: That's another that's another topic we can get on about, 686 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 4: you know, you starting back over man, getting having a nice, 687 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 4: a nice little one, you know, because it could make 688 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: even even though you I'm not gonna say your age, 689 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 4: but having another child, you know, it can do wonders 690 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: for you. Man, it could do wonders for you and 691 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 4: just and bringing that youth back into your life. So 692 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 4: that's another topic we can touch on later on, later 693 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 4: on down the line. 694 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: It'll bring one of them. It'll bring my summers to 695 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: a close. You know, I look at my life as 696 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: far as summers. I like to think that I got 697 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: at least twenty summers left. I'm not so sure of 698 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: bringing the kid into the equation. Don't take about five 699 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: or six of them summers off? 700 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 5: No, not really. 701 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 4: So if you think you got twenty summers left without 702 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: an infant, you know, with an infant, you might want 703 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 4: to add ten more summers of that. 704 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, it's in the it's in the Bible. 705 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: Look, I got I got off. I got off really good. 706 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: My kids were really good. Obviously, my oldest daughter she 707 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: lived with me and her junior and senior year, and 708 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: so you know, obviously you get you get you get 709 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: a get a young lady with her emotions and get me. 710 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm rigid. I'm very structured. She's not rigid. She's not structured. 711 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: But I think the thing now and talking to her now, 712 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: and I'm so proud of of the young woman that 713 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: she's turned into, is that when we have conversation, she's 714 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: like Dad. I didn't see it at the time, but 715 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: I really appreciate it now. And it's kind of like 716 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 2: it was when I was with my grandmother when they 717 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: telling my grandmother and my grandfather sharing all these stories. 718 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: You a kid, you don't know, You just want to 719 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: do what you want to do. 720 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: But now and for me, and I tell people this 721 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: all the time, I can remember everything my grandfather said 722 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: to me. My grandfather died in seventy In February seventy seven, 723 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: I was eight years old, about to be nine, and 724 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: I can remember everything my grandfather, grandfather said. I can 725 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: tell you I lived, my grandmother lived until I was 726 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: forty three years of age. I can tell you every 727 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: time my grandmothers ever got upset at me, and I 728 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: can tell you why, and I can. 729 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: Tell you what I did. 730 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: That's how the impact of what they were, what they said, 731 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: and how they how they treated me, the impact that 732 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: it had. And so for my kids to like appreciate it, 733 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: because look, I was hard on them I was. 734 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: I was because yeah I was. 735 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you were you were the disciplinarian, absolutely, yeah, 736 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 4: see I was. 737 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: I was. 738 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 4: I was a total opposite and and one of one 739 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 4: of the few things that I commend those that I 740 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 4: have kids from. 741 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 5: They did one hell of a job. They did one hell. 742 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 4: Of a job because I was more lenient, I was 743 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 4: more leaning, and all my kids turned out to be 744 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 4: phenomenal in the area as far as getting in trouble 745 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 4: and making some of the right decisions. And I take 746 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 4: I don't, I don't. I don't want to take the credit. 747 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 4: I'm not going to see him pretend that I will 748 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 4: take the credit for what they turned out to be. 749 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 4: All credit is due to the mothers and because of them, 750 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: and because of the structuring and discipline that they did have, 751 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 4: even with the young ones. It's the same way everyone 752 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 4: that's turned out to be phenomenal. And I've never been 753 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: on a platform like this to be able to give 754 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: them the credit that they do and give them their 755 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 4: just do. But man, most definitely, I'm very, very very 756 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 4: grateful for them. But because of that structuring discipline, it's 757 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: allowed me to be able to do some of the 758 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: things that I've done now even to this day, just 759 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 4: throughout throughout the years and everything is going so smooth 760 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: and transition because of them. 761 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was difficult because I'm a way away playing 762 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: and when they come over, you know, the mom was 763 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: a little bit was a little more or less will 764 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: look lenient than I am. So you ain't standing on 765 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: the couch, you're not jumping on the bed, you're not 766 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: running through the house, you're not leaving doors opening things 767 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: like that. So they looking at me like, but you know, 768 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: to their mom's credit, you know, there's like, okay, they 769 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,760 Speaker 2: were kind of like, your dad is a little different 770 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: than I am. Your dad's a little bit more structured. 771 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: Your daddy is it always cares a little bit more 772 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: as the mom. 773 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, if so. 774 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 2: But to give those guys credit, their parents, their mom 775 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: did a great job. They always the kids always had 776 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: obviously the utmost and even though we had you know, 777 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: we had our issues at time because you're young, same same, 778 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 2: same had our issues and but we worked through those things. 779 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: I think the thing the biggest thing for me is 780 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 2: that looking back at it, like, Okay, I could have 781 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 2: handled that differently. Yeah, you could have. And we talked 782 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: about it and I think we're in a great place now. 783 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: But the kids, for me, they understood. You know, I 784 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 2: could just give my kids that because I would take 785 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: them to the mall and and and people would ask like, 786 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: how do you get your kids to do that? 787 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: Like do what? 788 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: Like they sit down, they don't move, they're not running around. 789 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: I mean my kids would be all over the place right, 790 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, don't play that. M hmm, you show out, 791 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 2: you get wo wide. It's really that's how my but see, 792 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: you know, if you're not sat my grandma man, but 793 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: you know, if you're not careful, you would do it. 794 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: And you know you're like and I didn't, you know, 795 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 2: I didn't discipline my kids much. It had to be 796 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 2: something that that that really I thought that they really 797 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: needed to learn a lesson in this situation because and 798 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 2: and people like, well, why you so hard on them? 799 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 2: I said, I wouldn't be if they were gonna stay that. 800 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 5: Size and that age. 801 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: I let them do it. Well they want to do because. 802 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 2: But one day they're gonna be teenagers, and if I'm 803 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: fortunate enough, I'll see them have they'll build the dogs, 804 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 2: and I'll be able to see my grandkids. So I 805 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: need to teach them right from wrong and understand and 806 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: discipline and work ethic. 807 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: You want something, hey, you need to you know. 808 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: And and I've had this conversation with people that are 809 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: that work their way from the mud, Like we say, 810 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 2: we got it out of the mud and we. 811 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: Got the concrete right. 812 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: How do you instill that work ethic in them when 813 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 2: they got when you got twenty five thousand, you got made, 814 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: you got chef, you got your first you got security details. 815 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 2: How do you instill that. 816 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 4: That's a good question in your kids. I'm asking you, 817 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 4: how did you do that? 818 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,919 Speaker 1: Well? What did I tell you? Yeah, I'm last option, 819 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: not first choice? 820 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I'm gonna try that. I'm gonna try that. 821 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 4: But it's hard for me to say no, I'm I'm 822 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 4: gonna be honest with you. I'm hard whether I'm the 823 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 4: first option of the last option. If somebody text my 824 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 4: phone you know it's coming, well. 825 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 2: I think the thing is for me is that they 826 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 2: know it better be a good reason. Now, the question 827 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: is why didn't you come to me first? You get 828 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 2: yourself in a buying because you trying to do something 829 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 2: and not let me find out about it. I'm gonna 830 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 2: need to know why you didn't come to me first, Right, 831 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 2: I don't need to know all your business. You're grown, 832 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: but remember not if you've grown, you've grown all the time. 833 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 2: Don't be grown when you need daddy, because you don't 834 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 2: love I've grown you don't you know you're grown. But 835 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 2: it took me. It took me a while to be 836 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: able to like, okay, they are grown, because I remember 837 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: the first time I went out with my kids and 838 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: they came back with the drink menu and my kids, 839 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: my kids got the menu and they looking like, okay, 840 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: I'll take this, and I look like, yeah, like daddy, 841 00:37:54,719 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 2: we twenty five, twenty six, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, y'all. 842 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 4: They caught me off guard on our trips, you know, 843 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 4: we take our annual trips when everybody get out of school. 844 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 5: Man, we and we and we in Jamaica, we in Mexico. 845 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 4: And I'm looking at y'all ordering who or the what, 846 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 4: and I'm looking at real and it had and it 847 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,439 Speaker 4: hadn't clicked, even though they've grown, you know, twenty five Yeah, 848 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 4: like okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm not I'm not I'm 849 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 4: not used to that. And then I'm doing the preaching 850 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 4: but why y'all not like your daddy? Why y'all not 851 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 4: like your dady because your daddin't never had a sip 852 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 4: of alcohol the day in life here y'all go, y'all drinking? 853 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: Dang, you know what, It's all good, But that's them 854 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 2: to have their own identity. What what got me excited 855 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: doesn't get them excited. And I wanted them. I wanted 856 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: them to have their own identity. And for the most part, 857 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: my kid don't won't tell you who they are. 858 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: Now. 859 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 2: Obviously my oldest daughter, she kind of looks like me, 860 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 2: so the first thing they see or they're like, you 861 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: look just like your dad. 862 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: But if you if you don't know, I ain't gonna 863 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: tell you. 864 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: My youngest daughter kind of got my name right, but 865 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 2: she'll tell people that's like, are you related to that 866 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 2: that former football player? She's like, no, my mom just 867 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 2: liked this name though she's the root for the Broncos, 868 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 2: and she liked his name. 869 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 4: So I can't all all all my kids look like me, 870 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 4: but that that's a good thing because I look goody good. 871 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: You know, how many how many you have? How many? 872 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: How many? How many girls? 873 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 5: Eleven in the possible. 874 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: How many how many, how many boys? How many girls? 875 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 5: Eight and three? Eight girls? Eight eleven? 876 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 4: Is the possible? I'm I'm not I'm not finished. I'm 877 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 4: not finished either, Huh. I'm not finished. 878 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 5: Yeah man. 879 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, baby, she's trying to pretend like she's sleep Yeah, 880 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 4: I'm working, man, I can't listen. One thing you can't 881 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 4: do in life is you can't in on the odd numbers. 882 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 4: You can't in on the odd numbers. That's that's bad luck. 883 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 4: I have kids is bad Look, I ain't bad luck. 884 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 4: The cup run is over? Yeah, my bank account don't. 885 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: So. 886 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 2: While we all love watching our favorite teams on television, 887 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 2: there's nothing better than being at a game live and 888 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: in person, sitting court side ticket for me, and the 889 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: best way to get tickets to any of these games 890 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 2: is on game Time, the fast and growing ticket app 891 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 2: in the US. Game Time is obsessed with finding ways 892 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 2: to help you save money on tickets. 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Terms apply again. 901 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 2: Download game Time app. End of the code Nightcap that's 902 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: inn I ghtcap for twenty dollars off. Download game Time Today, 903 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: Last minute tickets Lloyd's price guaranteed. Hey, check this out, 904 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: O Joe? Did you see this? Women listed the places 905 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: men shouldn't take them on a first date. 906 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: Did you see that? O Joe? Did you see these? Players? 907 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure. 908 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, So I'm just trying to figure out where 909 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 2: the hell am I supposed to take you. I can't 910 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: take you the Apple Bee's or Chili's or Red Lobster 911 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: or Buffalo Buffet. 912 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 5: Iha. 913 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: We can't go bowling, We can't go to the hookah bar. 914 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: We can't go to waffle house. 915 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: We can't go to a sporting event, not family pumptions, 916 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: not a coffee date. 917 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: We can't even go to church. I know what. 918 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 2: I want God to look down and say, you know what, 919 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 2: they're a cute couple. I'm a I'm a blessed bill. 920 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 4: I think I think this list was made just for 921 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 4: the sake of creating engagement, because I'm looking at some 922 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 4: of this stuff. Movie night, who don't want movie night? 923 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 4: Who don't want to go? Bowling clubs? What's running nightwab. 924 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: With Chief k Factory number seven? 925 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 3: With you? 926 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: You can't take me to your house? 927 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 4: Listen, depending on the guy and fellas, I know you're 928 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 4: watching this. If she likes you, if she really likes 929 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 4: you for you, where you go doesn't matter because she's 930 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 4: just happy to be in your presence. If she has 931 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 4: a problem with anything on this list, in any place 932 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 4: on this list, it ain't about you. It's what you 933 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 4: can do? What so what about we just that's all 934 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 4: the come all to come down to. 935 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: So I guess we're just gonna jump on the full 936 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 2: five and then get to the team. We're just gonna 937 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: drive around. We can't go nowhere? 938 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: Can hell an? It plays off every place on here. 939 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: We can't go They talk about Starbucks? 940 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: What's I get? Okay, I get the nightclub? I mean, 941 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 2: who would want to go on all go somewhere? 942 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 5: Whoa whoa a strip club Day? You ain't never been 943 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 5: on strip club Day? 944 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: But that's the best. 945 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 5: That's the You ain't listen. You alive, but you ain't living. 946 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: Man. 947 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 4: You you're alive, but you ain't living. You ain't never 948 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 4: been on the You gotta do that for me. Come 949 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 4: to toutsies with me. Let's come down, come down to mimy. 950 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 5: Let go to tutties. 951 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: Man. I ain't I ain't gonna lie. I have been. 952 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 2: I ain't been to the strip club probably about probably 953 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 2: about sixteen seventeen years. 954 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 5: See, you know what, that's the problem. That's what's wrong 955 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 5: with you right there, that's what's wrong with you. 956 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: Go for the wings. I used to go for the wings. 957 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 1: I get the wings. 958 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 2: Chick magic, ain't mad. I remember what you said in 959 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 2: the barbershop. I know what you said. You're gonna name it. 960 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 2: You're gonna name a meal after me. So I want 961 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: that unk. I want that uncle on the menu. 962 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 4: Listen, let's let's take a trip to Atlanta. You you get, 963 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 4: You get your girl, I get my girl. We just 964 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 4: go in there and just just have some fun. Just 965 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 4: just relax, unwined. Let you let your wings out. 966 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 2: Man. 967 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 5: It just and woosa through some ones, O. 968 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 1: Joe, if we go. 969 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 2: Look, I ain't been, like I said, I ain't being 970 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 2: but see it's it's different, bro. 971 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 1: I mean I would Joe. You can't go, Bro, It's 972 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: gonna be on TMZ and people taking no. 973 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no no no. 974 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 4: We we were in Atlanta, this black Hollywood, black Hollywood. 975 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 4: We ain't got to deal with that. They're not even 976 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 4: gonna bother us. It's just you need to listen. I'm 977 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 4: telling you work a lot. You're doing a lot. You're 978 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 4: doing a lot for a lot of people. You need 979 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 4: a rent, you need a reset, you need a mental reset, 980 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 4: you need some relaxation aside from something that you. 981 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 5: Haven't done in a very long time. And you could 982 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 5: use that. 983 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 4: And what better person to have with you and somebody 984 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 4: like me that doesn't even do it, I don't even 985 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 4: do it. 986 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: Let me tell you when I'm when I want some 987 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: rest and relaxation. I do. Get to Atlanta. 988 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,279 Speaker 2: I go in my room, I get massages, I get 989 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: my nails done, I go get a haircut. Right, come on, 990 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 2: I come out, I go to the kitchen, I eat, 991 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 2: I go back in my room. I don't even cut 992 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: the TV on, I don't even cut. 993 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 4: You are alive, but you ain't living, baby. I got you, 994 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 4: I got you I got you. 995 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 2: I want, I want, I want my girl, I want, 996 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 2: I want us to do stuff. But going to the 997 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 2: strip club one thing I want me her to do. 998 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 2: That's the problem. That's the problem. You want to you 999 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 2: stuck in your box, in your ways. You have a 1000 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 2: routine and way that you do things, and that she. 1001 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 1: Got you know what, ojo. 1002 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 2: She would have a better chance getting me going on 1003 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 2: vacation than getting me to go to a strip doing 1004 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 2: with her. 1005 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 5: It ain't her. I asked you to go with me. 1006 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 4: Ain't going? Okay? Talking about but we could do that? Okay, 1007 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 4: next topic, long as long as you say again, back 1008 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 4: back back to this list, back to this list, Fellas, 1009 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 4: this list means nothing. When a woman likes you, a 1010 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 4: woman that likes you will walk with you, hand in 1011 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 4: hand to the corner stove. A woman that truly likes you, 1012 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And if you got 1013 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 4: to leave with money, if you got to leave with money, 1014 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,200 Speaker 4: you already know what time it is. 1015 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 5: Get in how you're finding, how your fun and keep 1016 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 5: it moving. 1017 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Where did you go 1018 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: on your first date? Do you remember your first date? McDonald's. 1019 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 5: You know that I don't play. I don't play. 1020 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 4: I don't play, and that and the people that I 1021 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 4: dated in the past, they're going to see this. With 1022 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 4: all due respect, I appreciate all y'all. We went the McDonald's. 1023 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 4: Hold on, man, baby, I'm talking about the first date 1024 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 4: you ever win on the first date, man, I'm not 1025 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 4: playing now. I'm not playing. If you can't appreciate what 1026 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 4: I love the most, then you have no business going 1027 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 4: me to nothing. Five star, four star, three star, two Yeah, baby, 1028 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 4: hold on, hold on baby, ain't no huh you can 1029 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 4: you hear me? 1030 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 5: Tell uncle? Tell uncle? We went for first date? You 1031 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 5: heard her? 1032 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: No, but it's good. I believe you. 1033 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 5: He can't hear you. You gotta scream. He can't hear you. 1034 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 5: You heard her? 1035 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:40,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1036 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and listen if she had, if she if she 1037 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 4: frowned up or turned her nose up when I pulled 1038 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 4: through that drive through. 1039 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 5: Okay, boom, eld be my last time seeing you? 1040 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 2: Nah? 1041 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: What you here? Far me? Are me? 1042 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 2: Are you here for the free meal? I'm trying to 1043 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, you know. Oh, so I didn't 1044 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: go to the prom in high school. I didn't in 1045 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 2: high school. I was I started dating I started dating 1046 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 2: a young lady and was she married, got two kids. Now, 1047 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna put nobody out there. And I think, 1048 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, the prom we ended up going 1049 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 2: to Red Lobster. 1050 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 1: Ooh, but the Biscuits stop playing. 1051 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 2: That was that was that was because here's the thing, 1052 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 2: oh Joe, our coach, coach Hall, like we ran track 1053 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 2: track track normally fell fell on prom and coach y'all said, 1054 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: what y'all want to do? Now I'm trying to figure out, Okay, 1055 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 2: I want to go to college. What's the quickest route 1056 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 2: to get to college, get to the NFL? Make somebody. 1057 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 2: So I didn't take care of my grandma. I didn't 1058 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: think the problem was going to be the best use 1059 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 2: of my tak right. Like we were, we would normally 1060 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 2: run having a track meet normally it was like reach. 1061 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 2: It was either the region track meet or the state 1062 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 2: track meet. And so that was that was my thing. 1063 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 2: But if I'm not mistaken, I think Red Lobster was 1064 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 2: the first. 1065 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: Date that I went on. And uh, but you. 1066 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 4: Know, I wonder how many people would have a problem 1067 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 4: with Red Lofso I wonder how many people listen to 1068 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 4: the chedda biscuits at Red Lobster or. 1069 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: Red on the list. 1070 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,919 Speaker 5: Listen, let me tell you another thing that's topped. 1071 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 4: Tell me you ever had the rolls at Piccadilly's, you 1072 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 4: ever had to roll the dinner rolls at Piccadilly's, or 1073 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 4: you never been to Piccadilly's. 1074 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: Na, we used to. 1075 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,360 Speaker 2: I've never been to Piccadilly's, but there used to be 1076 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:32,280 Speaker 2: a buffet called uh Morrison's, and I think, I think pad, 1077 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 2: I think that probably the same thing I remember. I 1078 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 2: remember my sophomore year. Yeah, well the first time I 1079 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 2: had never heard of the buffe. For real, I had 1080 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: never heard of a buffe. So coach, so we attract 1081 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 2: to you and we run the track. Coach said, we 1082 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 2: run good. I'm gonna take you guys to the buffe. 1083 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 2: I don't know no buff all, but hell sound good, 1084 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 2: let's go. 1085 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1086 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 2: So man, So we get there and like, you know, coach, 1087 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 2: you know, coaches either like paid, and I just see 1088 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 2: all this food. I'm like, so I was looking around, like, 1089 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 2: so what we do we wait for somebody to come services? 1090 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1091 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 2: I really had never really like been in a restaurant, 1092 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 2: so I really don't. I really don't know what how 1093 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 2: this thing is gonna take how what what's the deal? 1094 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 2: They say, Nah, man, you just go ride and get 1095 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 2: what you want. 1096 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: I was like, so I can get anything that's up here. 1097 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: I can get, you know. 1098 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 2: They got chicken, chicken tenders, mac and cheese, mashed potatoes, 1099 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,240 Speaker 2: make potatoes, all this. They got ice cream, cookies, brown 1100 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, so I can get anything I want. Yeah, man, 1101 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 2: oh cho I wasn't the only one that had never 1102 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 2: had a buffet or didn't know what the buffet was. 1103 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,880 Speaker 2: So we eat until we make our I mean, me 1104 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 2: and a couple of myle a couple of my teammates. 1105 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: We sick, so guess what we do. 1106 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 2: So, hey, I'm gonna take some of this stuff holding 1107 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: my system to my grandma. So I start getting napkins. 1108 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,720 Speaker 5: I put in your pocket. 1109 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I put chicken in my pocket. Put some chicken. 1110 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 2: I had like like two or three breasts, some short 1111 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: some drumsticks. And so the coach see us, but he 1112 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 2: don't say nothing I got, you know, I got cooking 1113 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 2: in my hand. I got brownest and I don't even 1114 00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 2: really like bride, but I know my grandma. He like, 1115 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 2: go to fried chicken. So we get on the bus 1116 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: coach all turns around. He says, suckers is all you 1117 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 2: can eat, not all you can eat and take out? Man, hey, everybody, 1118 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,399 Speaker 2: but I wasn't only one, O yo, I wasn't only one. 1119 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 2: But I always thought like when I went somewhere like that, Oh, 1120 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 2: my grandma gonna get some school here. 1121 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. 1122 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 5: What's funny thing. 1123 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the list, I'm thinking I see churches 1124 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 4: on that too. We think, me and my grandma, Me 1125 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 4: and my grandma, we went to my Olive Baptist church 1126 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 4: in over Town, My my Olive it Baptist Church over Town. 1127 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 5: We you think we went to eat out at the church. 1128 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 5: Every Sunday church is chicken. 1129 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 4: Why do you think I told you I don't like 1130 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 4: Chris being nosy dipping my hand and her stuff. 1131 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, man, we went. 1132 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,439 Speaker 2: We went to Grandy House to eat, you know, because 1133 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 2: Sunday was the only time to see we I never 1134 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 2: had chicken. I never had chicken on any other day 1135 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,479 Speaker 2: but Sunday. Now what you didn't get, what you didn't 1136 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 2: off with if you didn't eat it all on Sunday, 1137 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 2: you got some mother fried chicken. 1138 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: On Monday. 1139 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,520 Speaker 2: But I never had chicken. I never had fried chicken 1140 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 2: on any other day. That's the only time that we 1141 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 2: got chicken with Sunday. My grandmother would cut it, you know, 1142 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: my grandma and my aunts would cut it up, and 1143 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 2: they would fried Sunday fried Sunday morning. 1144 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: You know. 1145 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 2: Obviously my grandfather got the two biggest pieces, and so 1146 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 2: we normally got you get like a short thigh on 1147 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 2: the wing. It wasn't getting the breath. My grandfather got 1148 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 2: the breast, he got he got the bed feet. But 1149 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 2: you know, you might get a short thigh, drumstick, short 1150 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 2: thigh wing, something like that. But they fried everything, so 1151 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 2: you know, we eat the neck and things and things 1152 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 2: like that. So I was like man. And then the 1153 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: next day what you didn't eat, my grandfather, you know, 1154 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 2: got the fly hour in the water and mother Friday. 1155 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,399 Speaker 2: So now we have fried chicken and whatever vegetable we had, 1156 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 2: and then we have some mother fried chicken and rice 1157 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,280 Speaker 2: on Monday. 1158 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: But hot dogs was Friday. Was Friday night. My grandmother 1159 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: got PAGs. 1160 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 5: Wait hold on with baked beans. How that were bab bees? 1161 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:16,919 Speaker 1: Right? 1162 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 2: See you doing too much, Joe. We got the hot 1163 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 2: dog checked this out. We got the hot dog that 1164 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 2: came fifth in the pack, and they was like you 1165 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 2: remember them hot dogs that can't fit and they still 1166 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 2: and they still had the plastic on them when you. 1167 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 1: Put them in. Yeah, that's those are the ones that 1168 00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: we had. 1169 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 2: And back then you got bread bread with three loads 1170 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 2: for a dollar. You get three loads of bread for 1171 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,719 Speaker 2: a dollar, so we got no fit. My grandma buy 1172 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 2: the thing of fifty hot dogs. 1173 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: Man, you tall about like I said that a bun. 1174 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 5: Wait you ain't. 1175 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 4: You ain't had to forget I know, just talk about 1176 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 4: but I mean, my mama, my grandma used to to 1177 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 4: make the hot dogs right, the same the same fifty 1178 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 4: fact you talk about, chop it up the beans with 1179 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,400 Speaker 4: the with the with the little honey and the beans 1180 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 4: and mix it up. 1181 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 2: What no, no, no, grandy granny wasn't doing all that. You look, 1182 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 2: my grandma didn't. 1183 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: We didn't. 1184 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: I mean every once in a while, I mean, the 1185 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,760 Speaker 2: only kind of like vegetables that we, like my grandmother 1186 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 2: would buy it was kind of like like like cream corn. 1187 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 2: But most of the stuff it came from a garden 1188 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 2: my grandmother playing in the garden, or the people that 1189 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 2: had farms, they had Okrah, they had squashed that had 1190 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 2: butter beans, that had field PE's things like that, and 1191 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 2: so you would pick on the share. So if you 1192 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 2: put you picked two bushes, they got one, you kept 1193 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 2: one you picked, or they got to you got too. 1194 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 2: And then you know, you bring them home and then 1195 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,320 Speaker 2: your thumb saw it because you got to shell them. 1196 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 2: But yeah, but that no, no, no, no, no, but it 1197 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 2: was but I could, I could, you know, that was 1198 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 2: those are what That's what I remember. 1199 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 1: Me and my brother we talked about that all the time. Man. 1200 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 2: You remember, you know because my grandmother got paid on 1201 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 2: Friday one hundred and ninety seven dollars every two weeks, 1202 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety seven. 1203 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,760 Speaker 5: It's amazing how times have changed. 1204 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,160 Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, And. 1205 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 2: Like everybody around me was didn't have money like that, 1206 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 2: So it wasn't no thing to me. 1207 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't no thing. 1208 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 2: Because once the summer come, you know we're gonna be 1209 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,920 Speaker 2: able to work in the field that we're gonna be 1210 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 2: able to make it. So check us out on Joe 1211 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 2: Jannis said, Lebron James is the number one all time, 1212 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,879 Speaker 2: setting the blueprint for other NBA superstars. Y'allna say, some 1213 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 2: guys might say he's number two, but other guys like 1214 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 2: me say he's number one. For twenty one years, you 1215 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 2: never get in trouble. To be able to take his family, 1216 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 2: protect his family, raise his kid the right way, you know, 1217 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,520 Speaker 2: happy to be happily married, all those things. 1218 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: It's perfect. 1219 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 2: It's kind of like setting a blueprint for the rest 1220 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 2: of us to come forward. 1221 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 1: Now. 1222 00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 2: I think Jannis who's first, the second best player currently playing, 1223 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 2: Say Lebron James is the goat. Yeah, a lot of guys, 1224 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 2: a lot of current guys say it's Jordan, and they 1225 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 2: say it's Kobe, and that's well within the right. I 1226 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 2: ain't here to right the debate. That's that's your opinion. 1227 00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 2: I think it's Lebron. But what do you take away, 1228 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 2: what's your tech away from what Yanni is saying. 1229 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 4: Listen, I like what Yanna said. I like what Yanna said. 1230 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 4: And when there's a standard that's set, or there's a 1231 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 4: way to gauge someone you would like to be or 1232 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,320 Speaker 4: someone that represents not just the NBA shield to the 1233 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,399 Speaker 4: highest of its highest order, but someone that represents being 1234 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,280 Speaker 4: a father, being a husband, doing everything the right way. 1235 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:28,839 Speaker 4: Someone that had I would think probably the most expectations 1236 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 4: on their plate coming out of high school. 1237 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 5: Is Lebron king James. 1238 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 4: He has the tattoo of chosen for a reason, and 1239 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 4: for him to be able to live up to that 1240 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 4: with all the pressures and all that that entails, speaks 1241 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 4: volumes to this day to this day. So some people, 1242 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 4: some people in preference, will be Jordan's, some people in 1243 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 4: preference will be Kobe. I'm not sure who else is 1244 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,920 Speaker 4: in the discussion is being the best of all time. 1245 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 4: But listen what Lebron has been able to do since 1246 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 4: day one, since he stepped foot on the court one 1247 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 4: years later. It's respectable and it's commendable, and it's really 1248 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 4: it's hard. 1249 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:05,399 Speaker 1: How do you argue that? 1250 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 5: How do you argue the fact? Because the facts are 1251 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 5: right there. 1252 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: You know. 1253 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 2: The thing is, I think even though he had these 1254 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 2: high expectations, that's I think by everybody estimations, he's exceeded. 1255 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,760 Speaker 2: No matter what you thought he could or couldn't become, 1256 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 2: he's exceeded your expectations. Yeah, And so for him to 1257 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 2: do it the way he has it, to play at 1258 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 2: the level that he has, and the criticism, because you 1259 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 2: know that social media is a different animal, because everybody 1260 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 2: now is a GM, everybody now is a former NBA player, 1261 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,560 Speaker 2: everybody now is a head coach. And so now you've 1262 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,760 Speaker 2: got a platform. I've got a platform. Five hundred million, 1263 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 2: six a billion people have platforms to voice their opinion 1264 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 2: opinion of. 1265 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: What they think a certain player is or isn't. 1266 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 2: And so for him to withstand that Onslaught and a 1267 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 2: lot of people have taken unnecessary shots at him, but 1268 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 2: for him to block the noise out and because sometimes 1269 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,319 Speaker 2: the noise can become deafity, Yeah, for him to do 1270 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 2: it his way and to surround himself because a lot 1271 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 2: of times I don't know who his father figure was 1272 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 2: in his life. I think his mama, Gloria Glow, did 1273 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 2: an unbelievable job because think about it, he didn't go 1274 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 2: to college, so he didn't have a Dean Smith coach Smith, 1275 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 2: or he didn't have a coach John Thompson, or he 1276 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 2: didn't have a coach behind, or he didn't have a 1277 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 2: coach Kate. And if you think about it, he didn't 1278 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 2: have one of these a coach all Back or Phil Jackson, 1279 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 2: one of these great coaches. This him figuring it out 1280 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 2: his own as. 1281 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: A draft of the eighteen turns nineteen, and think about it. 1282 00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 2: He says, you know what, I just think and surrounds 1283 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 2: himself with people that say, you know what, we don't 1284 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 2: want to hand out, We just want the opportunity. Look 1285 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 2: what Rich Paul became, Look what Maverick Carter became. Look 1286 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 2: at where Randy Mimes became. 1287 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 5: Can I can I tell you something real quick? 1288 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 1: Yes? 1289 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:06,520 Speaker 4: And this is a testament to where I was trying 1290 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 4: to guide you and take you a little bit. And 1291 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 4: I'm not going to preach to you today, but I 1292 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,479 Speaker 4: want you to listen to everything that you just said, 1293 00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 4: but you're leaving one important fact out. 1294 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 5: We talked about Lebron. No no, no, no, no, stay with me. 1295 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 5: I stay. 1296 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 4: We talked about Lebron and the pressures that he's had 1297 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 4: to face and the noise that's been definite throughout his life. 1298 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,439 Speaker 4: He talked about Gloria and the job that she's done, 1299 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 4: saying that he's never had the coaches that have inspired 1300 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 4: you about life and kept you on the right track, 1301 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 4: but there's one piece that was always in place, that 1302 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 4: was always in place to make sure regards to what 1303 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 4: was going on the outside. Once he went home, he 1304 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 4: went home to peace. So that kept him in line, 1305 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 4: and that was Savannah. And that is something that I've 1306 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 4: always told you and I will tell everybody else that 1307 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,960 Speaker 4: out there listening and the credit and where it should go. 1308 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 5: Not just Jane, but sometimes when you. 1309 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 4: Have a woman's touch and a woman's guidance and a 1310 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 4: woman's vision, you might know where you want to go, 1311 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 4: you might know where you want to go, but there's 1312 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 4: one person that knows how to open that door and 1313 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 4: close it behind you to make sure you reach whatever 1314 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,919 Speaker 4: that end goal may be. And what she was able 1315 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 4: to do for him is speaks volumes on why he's 1316 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 4: been able to sustain what he's done for such a 1317 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 4: very long time. Outside of the work he's had to 1318 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 4: put in, obviously, yes, but it all comes down to 1319 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 4: having that centerpiece to keep that entire household together. 1320 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 5: And she's the one. 1321 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 4: That's why I'm trying to get I'm not done with 1322 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 4: you yet. 1323 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 2: But everybody is not everybody's not wired like Savannah. She 1324 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 2: said her job was to be a wife, make sure 1325 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 2: her husband was straight, and raise a family. You know, 1326 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 2: sometimes I want my own I want to do I 1327 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 2: want to do that, and it's kind of hard when 1328 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 2: you're mad to a professional athlete, because he's going to 1329 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 2: be so demanding of your time. And so for her 1330 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 2: it says, you know, okay, you, I'm gonna push you 1331 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 2: to the front. I'll stand back, I'm gonna race because 1332 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 2: because it's hard when you like a Lebron, or you 1333 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 2: you date or married to a Tom Brady, or you 1334 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 2: maded to one of these historically iconic, they are very selfish. 1335 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 2: The greater the player, the greater the ego, and the 1336 01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 2: greater his time restraints are to film, study and his 1337 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 2: body and doing all these things and to grow. And 1338 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 2: so a lot of the recitals and the practices, and 1339 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 2: they're taking the school and the carpool lane. 1340 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: He ain't in there. Savannah's doing that, and she's okay 1341 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: with that. 1342 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes one can become envious, Well, when do I get 1343 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 2: a break? When are you gonna take him to the school? 1344 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 2: When are you gonna go to recital? When are you 1345 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,800 Speaker 2: gonna go to ballet? When are you gonna do this? 1346 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 2: But I don't know what goes on behind closed door. 1347 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 2: I know who she is. I've never spoken to the woman. 1348 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 2: I know Bron had a couple of conversations with. But 1349 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure uh it's not easy because you do. I mean, hey, 1350 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 2: sometimes I'm like, man, hell, I wish I could take 1351 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 2: a day off and not get up and have to 1352 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,400 Speaker 2: go to work. Right, But it's a twenty, it's a 1353 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 2: three sixty five twenty four seventh. 1354 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 4: Say yeah, three sixty five. Listen, most definitely, most definitely, 1355 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 4: and listen. It's difficult. I know it is. But again, 1356 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 4: there's a reason why he set the blueprint, not just 1357 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 4: not just as a basketball player, but is a father 1358 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 4: and as a husband. 1359 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 5: It need to be it need to be studied. 1360 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 2: Oh that's me for me, oh jo, If I had 1361 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,800 Speaker 2: it to do over again, if I could go back, Okay, 1362 01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna start as a 1363 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 2: freshman in high school and instead of being a class 1364 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 2: crown in bull driving around, I'm gonna do my work now. 1365 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 2: Even if I say, okay, I want to go back 1366 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go back to Savatah State, yes, so 1367 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 2: I would have been able to say no and not 1368 01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 2: you know, oh Shay, you got this great body. Ooh 1369 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,240 Speaker 2: you find I want to talk to you blah blah 1370 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 2: blah and run with it out of gotten me one woman. Yes, 1371 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 2: I to sell them like, you know what, down it'll 1372 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 2: probably save me by four five million dollars, but that's 1373 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 2: not a hear nor there and now probably would have 1374 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 2: Now I don't regret. 1375 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,800 Speaker 1: You know, my kids love them, They're great. Uh. 1376 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 2: They forced me to become even more regimented, more disciplined, 1377 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 2: more determined, more dedicated because I now I ain't just 1378 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:30,800 Speaker 2: worried about granty. I got my I got my own 1379 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 2: responsibilities outside of granted, outside of my mom and my sister. 1380 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 2: Although I know my brother, it's a dual deal with 1381 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 2: my brother that's helping my mom and my grandmother, my sister. Now, 1382 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:46,240 Speaker 2: I got responsibility that's not his responsibility or it's not 1383 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 2: our responsibility together. Of all the things, I wish I 1384 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 2: had gotten married earlier. 1385 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 4: But you know what, you know what, the great thing 1386 01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 4: about life is the great thing about life, fizz. Some 1387 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 4: people never graduate from high school, some people never graduate 1388 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 4: from college, but something hits them in life, and regardless 1389 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 4: of age, you can go back and get your degree. 1390 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, whether it's high school and go to college. 1391 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,120 Speaker 4: Listen, that is gonna be that Listen, that's gonna be 1392 01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 4: my end goal as a part of this show. No 1393 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 4: matter what we talk about No matter what we do, 1394 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 4: the ups and the downs, at the end of the day, 1395 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,920 Speaker 4: my sole goal is to find your woman because I 1396 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 4: can't wait. And all I'm gonna say is I told 1397 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 4: you so at the wedding. 1398 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get up. 1399 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,240 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get up and say I have a have 1400 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 4: a toast, and the toast is gonna be I told 1401 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 4: you so. 1402 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 2: Well, I hope it's buttering. I hope it's butter and 1403 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,040 Speaker 2: jelly on that toast, because that's the only toast you're 1404 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 2: gonna be given to me. Las campbell uh says he 1405 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 2: spins between two hundred and three hundred thousand on his 1406 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,479 Speaker 2: body after studying Brady and Lebron. I know you played 1407 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 2: against Klaios, big guy out of Denver, Colorado, wanted to 1408 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,439 Speaker 2: be a tight end. I've talked to Khalais and said, 1409 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 2: you know what, man, I wanted to be like you, 1410 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,000 Speaker 2: but I kind of grew out of the position and 1411 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:09,919 Speaker 2: I couldn't. 1412 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Catch the ball like you could. If you knew what 1413 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: you know. 1414 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 2: Now, how would it have changed your career or would 1415 01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 2: you have done anything as far as training, as far 1416 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 2: as nutritional What would you have done different knowing what 1417 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 2: you know now. 1418 01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 4: Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't have done a 1419 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 4: thing different. I respect individuals like Lebron and Tom Brady 1420 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 4: and the way they've taken care of their bodies and 1421 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 4: having to do some of the things that come with it. 1422 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 4: Khalais Campbell spending two hundred three hundred thousand. Obviously he's 1423 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,760 Speaker 4: a bigger individual than I am, and therefore the wear 1424 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 4: and tear on his body might be a little different 1425 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 4: than it was for me. If I had to do 1426 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 4: it again, my diet nutrition wouldn't change. The same thing 1427 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 4: I ate when I was in high school and through college. 1428 01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 4: I ate it while I was in the NFL. 1429 01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 5: The way I trained you already know still to this day. 1430 01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 4: I'm a mad man. I'm a mad man. I gotta 1431 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 4: be doing something. I got I gotta be moving, I 1432 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 4: gotta be doing something. And I played a very long time. 1433 01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 4: I had no injuries. I had no injuries. So when 1434 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 4: when Marvin Lewis appointed a nutritionist to the end to 1435 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 4: our team, I had no There was no reason for 1436 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 4: me to break what I was already doing because there 1437 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 4: was nothing wrong with there was nothing to fix. There 1438 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 4: was nothing to fix, and I think I was very fortunate. 1439 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 4: I might be one of the most fortunate NFL players 1440 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 4: to ever play, to play an entire career and having 1441 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 4: no injuries outside of a dislocated dislocated pinky, you know, 1442 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,920 Speaker 4: a little a little nick here, a little nick there, 1443 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 4: but nothing major would cost me to miss any time. Therefore, 1444 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 4: when it comes to nutrition and to talk about taking 1445 01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,600 Speaker 4: care of your body, it's like, to me, it's just 1446 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,520 Speaker 4: everybody's different. Everybody's body is different, so it's hard for 1447 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 4: me to compare. I can't say anything about Lebron, I 1448 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 4: can't say anything about Khalais Campbell or any other players 1449 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 4: that take care of everybody and having to spend money 1450 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 4: on it. 1451 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 5: To me, I think it's the mind thing. It's a 1452 01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 5: mind thing. I get up. 1453 01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 4: I trained hard. I getting the cold too, I getting 1454 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,439 Speaker 4: hot up. I never got massages. I don't want nobody 1455 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 4: touching me, don't I never got massages. 1456 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 2: And you bleed the cold tub got had something to 1457 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 2: do with it, or you wouldn't have got in it. 1458 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 4: Oh no, because I just I saw everybody else doing it, 1459 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 4: So I just wanted to follow what everybody else was doing. 1460 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 5: At TJT. 1461 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,919 Speaker 1: You did you did? You did that? Wife? You did 1462 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,000 Speaker 1: this throughout your career? 1463 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, because T TJ, t J, who Schmazata and Carlston 1464 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 4: Palmer told me you should get in the cold tub. 1465 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 4: You running yourself ragged. You're running dude, listen, let me 1466 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 4: tell you how I practice this is. I was, I 1467 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,240 Speaker 4: was a I want to say that word. I want 1468 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 4: to say to our word. I was ridiculous. I did 1469 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 4: a scout team, I went off, I did kickoff. I 1470 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 4: used to I used to play the gunner. This is 1471 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 4: in practice, just to get me in rhythm, getting preparing 1472 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 4: for a game. T O t O's with us in 1473 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 4: twenty ten. THEO pulled me to the side and said, man, 1474 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:49,959 Speaker 4: what the hell are you doing? 1475 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 1476 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 4: I'm taking all the goddamn snap. I said, this is 1477 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 4: how I always get ready for Sundays. He said, man, 1478 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 4: you running yourself ragged. Man, you're gonna be tired when 1479 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 4: the games come. I say, t this is the way 1480 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 4: I practiced it, and I'm used to it. So that 1481 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 4: was one of that was one of the George that 1482 01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 4: having Tea there and having to show me how to 1483 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 4: manage my body and minimize some of the work that 1484 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 4: I was putting in during the week. But that's all 1485 01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,360 Speaker 4: that I knew, And I think that's one of the 1486 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 4: reasons why I never got hurt. I put my body 1487 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 4: through the ringer constantly to where you know what. When 1488 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,440 Speaker 4: it was time to play and time to get hit 1489 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,240 Speaker 4: and take those hits, I just get right up and 1490 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 4: keep on. 1491 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 1: What if you getting in the hyperbaric chamber? 1492 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,920 Speaker 2: What if you're eating right, instead of having eleven thousand 1493 01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,600 Speaker 2: yards you had fourteen thousand, and. 1494 01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: Instead of having sixty sixty touchdowns, you had ninety. 1495 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 4: How how I just told you I never got hurt. 1496 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 4: I didn't miss any time. So with the widows numbers 1497 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 4: gonna come from Madden. 1498 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,439 Speaker 2: No, No, maybe instead of and maybe instead of back, 1499 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 2: maybe you break a tackle. Instead of having a fifteen 1500 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 2: yard game, you get a thirty yard game. 1501 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,160 Speaker 5: I never got tackled by the first man. 1502 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Man, stop it, O yoke. 1503 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,440 Speaker 5: You saw you saw what I did the raid. Don't 1504 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 5: don't play me like that. 1505 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: No, I saw you got Listen. 1506 01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 5: No, but listen. 1507 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 4: Another thing that I hate people, Oh, I mean healthy. 1508 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 4: I mean healthy because it's gonna make it gonna help 1509 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 4: me perform better. 1510 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:05,680 Speaker 5: No it's not. 1511 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 4: No, it's not because how you perform is a skill set. 1512 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 4: It's a skill set based on how hard do you 1513 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 4: train and what God has blessed you with. And you're 1514 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,960 Speaker 4: putting the two together, not the food, saying, oh, if 1515 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:18,720 Speaker 4: I eat salad and I he's healthy and I do 1516 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 4: all this nutrition stuff, all of a sudden, I'm gonna 1517 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 4: be Jerry Rice. 1518 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 5: No you're not. 1519 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: No, No, listen, you good, You're not. 1520 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:27,560 Speaker 5: No, that's it. 1521 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 2: But I do I do believe. I mean, I mean, 1522 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,360 Speaker 2: but like you said, it's a mindset. You don't believe that. 1523 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 2: You don't believe it's gonna help. It's not gonna help. 1524 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 2: There's a reason why doctors tell you that that. There's 1525 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 2: a reason why doctors tell you when you have surgery 1526 01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 2: to keep a positive mind right right, because my mind 1527 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 2: really controls the body. So you're not gonna get the 1528 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,000 Speaker 2: benefits out of it because you're already going in with 1529 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,040 Speaker 2: a neggative mindset. 1530 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,639 Speaker 4: Even if you're not going in with a niggat mindset, 1531 01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,600 Speaker 4: I'm using common goddamn sense in logic telling me what 1532 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 4: I put that my body is gonna help me before. 1533 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 5: So it's a lie. 1534 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,400 Speaker 1: But you I disagree, I disagree. 1535 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 5: I disagree either, you're good at your craft or you're not. 1536 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 5: You're telling me if you're telling me, or I'm eating solace. 1537 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,120 Speaker 4: That means when i'm when somebody is in front of 1538 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 4: me playing man and man, oh, I'm gonna be able 1539 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 4: to get open and create separation because of what I 1540 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,840 Speaker 4: put in my works. 1541 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,439 Speaker 1: No, you have a seed, but you have a single. 1542 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:25,360 Speaker 1: But see, here's the thing. 1543 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 2: I believe the guy that trains hard has the better 1544 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,280 Speaker 2: nutritional I think that helps. 1545 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that somebody helps you. 1546 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,680 Speaker 4: What in what area your bodies when you get on 1547 01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 4: the field. It's based on your skill set, your skill set. 1548 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 1: But let me ask you a question. 1549 01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 2: So why don't they put regular Why do they don't 1550 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 2: put regulated gas in pot performance cards? 1551 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 1: If it didn't make a difference with the car. Now 1552 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 1: I'm so, what's your body? What's your body? Is your 1553 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 1: body not a machine? Yes? 1554 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,599 Speaker 5: Yes, it's my temple. So it's my temple. 1555 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 1: Why would you and why would you put you? Why 1556 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't put it? 1557 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:03,960 Speaker 5: The high guys they get it. 1558 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 4: They got they got you believing that ninety seven is 1559 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 4: the healthy ship. 1560 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 5: That's how they that's how they that's how they fool 1561 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 5: you and to selling their product. 1562 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,600 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing to Ojo. What I did is 1563 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 1: that I tried it for myself. Right. 1564 01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,960 Speaker 2: See, yes, I could have like nah, I said, but 1565 01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,479 Speaker 2: let me see. And then I saw what it did. 1566 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 2: I said to dude, I saw mentally, that's what it did. 1567 01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 2: I saw the changes in my body. I saw the 1568 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,840 Speaker 2: changes when I when I made when I made the 1569 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 2: switch in ninety three, I said, you know what, I'm 1570 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,679 Speaker 2: going to bring my own food to work. I'm gonna 1571 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 2: start eating like this. I'm going to start training like this. 1572 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 2: I saw the benefits. Now, obviously, all these hyperbaric chambers 1573 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 2: and all this other stuff that came around these physio 1574 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 2: guys that had these guys, these personal trainers. 1575 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:51,120 Speaker 1: There's a reason why. 1576 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,880 Speaker 4: There's a reason why, ocho all that's some money grab man. 1577 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question? 1578 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 5: How many is you played? 1579 01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:58,880 Speaker 1: I played fourteen? 1580 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 5: You ever been here? Yes? You had any surgeries? Yeah, surgeries? 1581 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 1: I practiced. Fractured my eye socket, eye sockey? What else? 1582 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,280 Speaker 1: Broke my collar bone? Broke what else? 1583 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 2: Uh? 1584 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: Had scope on my ankle a couple of times. 1585 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,439 Speaker 4: Your ankle, Oh, your knees too. I ain't had nothing 1586 01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:29,120 Speaker 4: wrong with me. Yeah, see me doing a pretty boys. 1587 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 4: I was in the trench. I was in the trenches. 1588 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 4: I was in the trenches, and I played reckless. Check 1589 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,680 Speaker 4: my resume and check the film you. 1590 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 2: Outside the numbers, bro, I saw you one time. I 1591 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,880 Speaker 2: saw you one time inside the hash and everybody saw 1592 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 2: high ended. 1593 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,519 Speaker 5: Listen, what era of football did I play? 1594 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:46,600 Speaker 2: In? 1595 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 5: A f C North two thousand, Ravens, Steelers, Browns. 1596 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:55,759 Speaker 1: Bro they had a bro they had they had them relaxed, 1597 01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:00,639 Speaker 1: incidental contact, Bro. Stop that's the road. Stop playing, man? 1598 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,680 Speaker 4: Why are you playing on the top like that? McDonald's 1599 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 4: my whole career, no injuries. 1600 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: Just think about what you could have been. 1601 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 5: I was that. 1602 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: I was him? What you could have been? I was? 1603 01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,479 Speaker 1: I was him? 1604 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 2: And you noticed that all the top if you take 1605 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 2: all the top end guys. You look at the guys 1606 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:24,600 Speaker 2: that played Jerry, look at Walter Payton, look at uh 1607 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:29,040 Speaker 2: uh Tom Brady, look at Jordan's look at Kobe, look 1608 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 2: at Lebron, look at. 1609 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 1: All the high end guys. What do they do? 1610 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. Everybody trying to be like them. 1611 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 4: You ain't gonna be nawing one of them. No, But 1612 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 4: what if you could be What if you could be 1613 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,160 Speaker 4: a better version of you J and Jordan A McDonald's. Yeah, 1614 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 4: we're saying both A McDonald's. 1615 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 5: Not not not. 1616 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 4: When he was training for the Olympics. For the Olympics, 1617 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,800 Speaker 4: I called Michael. I called Michael right now, I call 1618 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 4: let him tell you I called Mike. Hold on, you 1619 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 4: want to call him, don't don't do that. Michael, Jordan 1620 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 4: ate eight McDonald's. Talk to me now, oh chicken my 1621 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 4: nuggets before the game, ocho, you could eat anything in 1622 01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 4: moderation and listen. Why why why do we continue to 1623 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:12,240 Speaker 4: use the highest of iconic athletes as examples is beyond 1624 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,400 Speaker 4: me because nobody is gonna be like that. 1625 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:16,559 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. 1626 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 2: Do you take anything Do you take financial advice from 1627 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 2: anybody that ain't got money? 1628 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 5: Yes? 1629 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: No, you listened to the musk, you listened to guys 1630 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:24,920 Speaker 1: that built businesses. 1631 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 4: I don't take financial advice from nobody but myself. That's 1632 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 4: why I still got all my goddamn money. 1633 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 1: Period. 1634 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:33,439 Speaker 5: Now listen to me. 1635 01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 1: I did it. 1636 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,960 Speaker 4: I did it with no injury, So you're not gonna 1637 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 4: tell me the way I did it don't work because 1638 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:38,320 Speaker 4: it worked. 1639 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,120 Speaker 5: You had thirty you had thirty seven surgeries, and I 1640 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 5: ain't had now. 1641 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 2: Oo, yes, sir, so what if the difference? But think 1642 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,920 Speaker 2: about it at different different think about it. How many 1643 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,960 Speaker 2: seventh round picks and after the merger made it to 1644 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:53,679 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame? 1645 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 1: How many did you give a second? I'm gonna give you. 1646 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 1: How many seventh round picks because on to be an 1647 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 1: all pro and go to eight pro bowls? How many. 1648 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 5: Can you finish? Can I finish? 1649 01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 1: Can I go? 1650 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 5: Can I go? 1651 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,880 Speaker 4: How many young kids out of Liberty City be the 1652 01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 4: odds and then end up dead or in jail from 1653 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 4: selling the dope? 1654 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,120 Speaker 5: Let me finish, you let me finish, Let me finish, 1655 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:17,759 Speaker 5: let me finish. 1656 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,560 Speaker 4: How many from kids from Liberty City made it to 1657 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 4: the NFL it was a full time all pro, six 1658 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:32,040 Speaker 4: time pro bowler, name cemented, legacy, cemented name in the stadium? 1659 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 1: How many? 1660 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 5: I ain't got no yellow jacket, but I made my own. 1661 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 1: Okay, that's sufficient. How many? How many people? How many 1662 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 1: people live in Liberty City? How many people? What you 1663 01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,840 Speaker 1: say the population of Liberty City is now? 1664 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,600 Speaker 4: Back then I'm talking about I'm talking about in the 1665 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:46,880 Speaker 4: eighties when it was a war zone, and. 1666 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 5: It's the war zone. 1667 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm talking about doing it during how many how many 1668 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 2: people you think Libery Liberty City, Liberty City, I'm not 1669 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,960 Speaker 2: sure fifteen thirty. 1670 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 4: I wouldn't even say here and throwing nobody because I 1671 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 4: don't know. I'm just being honest. I don't want, don't 1672 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,800 Speaker 4: want to play that game out. I don't know, honestly. Well, 1673 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 4: where I grew up at it was thirty five hundred people. 1674 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,200 Speaker 4: What's the likelihood of you getting two out of thirty 1675 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,840 Speaker 4: five hundred? What's the likelihood of me even surviving and 1676 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 4: getting the opportunity to even play? 1677 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:13,679 Speaker 1: Ojo? 1678 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:15,720 Speaker 2: So let me ask your question. Are there any other 1679 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,479 Speaker 2: players that came out of Liberty City that play in 1680 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 2: the NFL? 1681 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a few, It's a few. It's a few 1682 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,639 Speaker 5: right now. So it's time. 1683 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,479 Speaker 4: Do you understand what Liberty City I came out? No, 1684 01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 4: you don't, Yes, Ojo, eighties nineties Liberty City. 1685 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:37,599 Speaker 1: It was ugly, Yes, it was ugly, Ojo. My chances 1686 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,720 Speaker 1: of getting out was this, Ojo? Yes, Ojo. I ain't 1687 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 1: talking the odds. 1688 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:47,760 Speaker 4: Yes, the odds were stacked, gives you way against Yes, 1689 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 4: but you beat the odds. 1690 01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:55,639 Speaker 2: Now, just imagine, look like I said, in your mind, 1691 01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:03,720 Speaker 2: you don't believe that nutrition and proper you know, massage, 1692 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,599 Speaker 2: physio all that. You don't believe it worked. We've done 1693 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:10,080 Speaker 2: a whole we got over two thousand more believe that 1694 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:11,160 Speaker 2: nutrition matters. 1695 01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 4: What are eighty three percent who they play for? Two 1696 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 4: thousands they play for? See hold on, now you're doing 1697 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,800 Speaker 4: the argument. Now you're doing now you're trying to invalidate 1698 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,759 Speaker 4: people because they didn't play. No, no, no no, because 1699 01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 4: they they would if you didn't play the game. And 1700 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 4: you think nutrition matters? What are you using the What 1701 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 4: are you using as the fact that nutrition works? What 1702 01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 4: they gonna say, Oh, Lebron did it? 1703 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,000 Speaker 5: No yo, ain't you? You're never gonna be those individuals 1704 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,160 Speaker 5: that they are once in a lifetime. 1705 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:43,840 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Are there more? 1706 01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 2: Are there more athletes like you that eat whatever they 1707 01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 2: want that don't believe or they are more athletes that eat? 1708 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,160 Speaker 4: Guarantee you they are more athletes like me than it 1709 01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,719 Speaker 4: is they eat, eat, eat healthy. And I can guarantee 1710 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 4: you that, especially in today's game, I can guarantee you 1711 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:56,639 Speaker 4: that I disagree. 1712 01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 5: Let's bet. 1713 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 2: Let's bet I disagree. It's bet that's bed because you 1714 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 2: see that I disagree. I don't know how we quantify it. 1715 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 4: Can I ask your question, why do you think why 1716 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 4: do you think the injuries up higher? Why you think 1717 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:13,120 Speaker 4: the injuries are more significant now than as opposed to before. 1718 01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 4: Because I tell you, let me finish, let me tell 1719 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,679 Speaker 4: you can I tell you why? Please, please real quick. 1720 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:18,720 Speaker 5: I love you to death. 1721 01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 4: The injuries are up higher because they eating all this 1722 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 4: motherfucking healthy shit. You play a barbaric sport. You play 1723 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,719 Speaker 4: a barbaric sport, running one hundred miles an hour, running 1724 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,280 Speaker 4: into each other, but you ain't like a goddamn rabbit, 1725 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 4: and you expect to survive a seventeen game seven season. 1726 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,080 Speaker 4: But you, like goddamn rabbit, it ain't gonna work. Something 1727 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 4: has to give, you know, it's given your fucking body 1728 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,120 Speaker 4: and its ligaments. 1729 01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,080 Speaker 2: I believe, I believe a reason why the injuries. I 1730 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 2: believe the guys are getting bigger, stronger, and faster. But 1731 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,799 Speaker 2: I also believe that the guys don't put their bodies 1732 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,280 Speaker 2: through the riggers. They don't practice hitting during the course 1733 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,920 Speaker 2: of the week like we once did. And so now 1734 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,080 Speaker 2: you're asking a car that hasn't been driven at one 1735 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,720 Speaker 2: hundred miles of hours during the week that says, you 1736 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 2: know what, on Sunday, go one hundred miles an. 1737 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,719 Speaker 1: Hour without being warmed up. That is my belief. 1738 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,320 Speaker 2: There's no way to defindily determine it. But do you 1739 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 2: believe the guys are bigger, strong, and faster. 1740 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: Yes? 1741 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 2: Do you believe the guys in the NFL are bigger, 1742 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,160 Speaker 2: stronger and faster than they were in the fifties, in 1743 01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:21,400 Speaker 2: the sixties and the seventies. 1744 01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 1: Do you believe guys are getting bigger, strong, and faster. 1745 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:25,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, they are. 1746 01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,640 Speaker 4: Okay, so that means so that means the collect So 1747 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,920 Speaker 4: hold on, let me ask your question. So that means 1748 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 4: because you can't even hit no god damn body today. 1749 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 4: You can't even hit nobody today. You can't even hit 1750 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 4: no goddamn by today. 1751 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Don't do that. Look you just you can hit them. 1752 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,759 Speaker 4: Kare Kareem jack Kareem Jackson just got suspended four games 1753 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 4: for playing football the way we did in the two thousands. 1754 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 2: Hold on, you can't even hit nobody. You can hit them, 1755 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,639 Speaker 2: it's just the penalty now. And we understand that they're 1756 01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 2: trying to make the game, and we understand with the 1757 01:18:54,600 --> 01:19:00,160 Speaker 2: lawsuits with the CTEs and things of that nature, we understand, yes, yes, 1758 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 2: But all I know is that we got twenty nine 1759 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,360 Speaker 2: hundred boats, and uh, eighty three percent says yes. 1760 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 1: Nutrition plays the role. 1761 01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 4: Y'all know what they talk about? Because he ain't none 1762 01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,599 Speaker 4: of that eighty three percent could cover me. Ain't none 1763 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 4: of eighty three percent coming me. And I'm out there 1764 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,040 Speaker 4: on two cheeseburgers. And what you're gonna do with me? 1765 01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 1: Nothing? 1766 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:18,719 Speaker 5: No, nothing? 1767 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 1: We got three thousand boats. Oh Joe, look at it. 1768 01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,120 Speaker 1: They lying that what I able to do? Right there? 1769 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:27,720 Speaker 5: Wait but you talk. Wait a minute, let me come 1770 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 5: up with what you talking about? 1771 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, You a steak figure, you stik, you strong man? 1772 01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:34,639 Speaker 1: You talk about man? 1773 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,800 Speaker 5: Ain't the only one you you're talking about? You talking 1774 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 5: about man? You ain't the only one? Yeah, look yeah, 1775 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 5: look at that you you laughing. This ain't nothing. It's 1776 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 5: two thirty. What you talking about? Man? 1777 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,040 Speaker 1: Thirty? 1778 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:50,400 Speaker 5: Man slid? What? 1779 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: Oh Joe? 1780 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,160 Speaker 3: You you you ate it? 1781 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:53,800 Speaker 1: You a buck? You a buck sixty? You might be 1782 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:54,519 Speaker 1: a buck sixty. 1783 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 5: And look at this man you talk about? Man, I 1784 01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 5: just look like this man. You made me come back 1785 01:19:58,720 --> 01:19:59,120 Speaker 5: my shirt? 1786 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:05,800 Speaker 1: Man, man, don't tell you why bro you wow? 1787 01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,679 Speaker 5: Now, but listen that's that's a that's a good topic. 1788 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 4: I just just honestly, you know, I know I play 1789 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,400 Speaker 4: around a lot, but in all seriousness, for me nutrition, 1790 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 4: I just felt if it wasn't broke, there was nothing 1791 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 4: for me to fix. It worked for me, it might 1792 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,559 Speaker 4: not work for the next person. I knew and understood 1793 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,160 Speaker 4: my body. If they understand and know their body, you 1794 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,080 Speaker 4: do whatever works for you. 1795 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:25,840 Speaker 1: Man, you know what. 1796 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,880 Speaker 2: I thought that same way until I tried it, and 1797 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,599 Speaker 2: then I saw it like man, I had more energy, 1798 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,320 Speaker 2: I had more stamina. I was able to recover. But hey, 1799 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 2: like I said, it's up here. If you don't believe 1800 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna help, it ain't gonna. It ain't gonna It 1801 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,720 Speaker 2: ain't gonna work for you. I believed that mine is 1802 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 2: a powerful thing. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for tuning 1803 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,040 Speaker 2: into another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite Shaton Sharp, 1804 01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,559 Speaker 2: He's your favorite, number eighty five, one of the best 1805 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 2: route runners. 1806 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 4: He's number two on the rock list. Hee. Why every 1807 01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 4: why every time I get hot? You be ready to 1808 01:20:59,280 --> 01:20:59,559 Speaker 4: get off? 1809 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,519 Speaker 2: Nah, because I gotta go to work tomorrow. Hey, oh, Joe, 1810 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,040 Speaker 2: I got I got some bad news for him. There 1811 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:12,040 Speaker 2: will be no episode of Nightcap on Thursday. It's my 1812 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 2: daughter's you know, my daughter's celebrating. We had a celebration week, 1813 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:21,000 Speaker 2: and normally I would have forego that, but at this 1814 01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,720 Speaker 2: time of my life, now my kids are sacrificed enough. 1815 01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 2: They used to sacrifice going to the amusement park, going 1816 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,760 Speaker 2: to the zoo, going to things, going out so Daddy. 1817 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 1: Could could could live fulfill his dream working out, training, 1818 01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:38,320 Speaker 1: getting ready. 1819 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 2: Well, I didn't work out our train and so now 1820 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,639 Speaker 2: when it comes to the kids, work takes a back seat. 1821 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 1: Work takes a back seat. 1822 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,720 Speaker 2: So Thursday, I'm gonna be at the game with my 1823 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,920 Speaker 2: daughter to see the Lakers open up against the Sun. 1824 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:58,120 Speaker 2: So she's excited about that. She's like, Dad, this is 1825 01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,640 Speaker 2: one of the best birthday weeks I've ever had. We 1826 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 2: saw we saw Usher on Friday, we saw Dell, and 1827 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,479 Speaker 2: then we're gonna cap it off with seeing King James 1828 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,879 Speaker 2: take on Kevin Durand and Devin Booker. So I'm excited 1829 01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 2: about that. I'm gonna miss you guys on Thursday, but 1830 01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,519 Speaker 2: you best believe I'll be back. 1831 01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 1: And ready to go on Sunday. Yeah. I like it. 1832 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,120 Speaker 1: I like it. So thank you for tuning in. Thank 1833 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 1: you for tuning in. How many do we do? Do 1834 01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,640 Speaker 1: we do? Okay, tonight with the Views? 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