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Speaker 1: five South Show. It is your man, Carlos Miller. You

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Speaker 1: would not believe what we're getting into the day. Man,

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Speaker 1: big kill man, you're blessing us today. This is a

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Speaker 1: far as like you seeing her like and when she

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00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: winded up and tell see you like she and I

426
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: knew that. I knew she was gonna be a star,

427
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And and seeing what Pebbles

428
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: did bro Like remembering that day when I saw that

429
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: the l a red pull up in the hood and

430
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: jump out ship with this song. It just be real

431
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: for me because I'll be like, man, look, I said,

432
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: it ain't tripping off. How the game going. I'm just

433
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: saying this, if it's a streaming service, why the artists

434
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: did write the music didn't even get a vote. They

435
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: ain't saying let's start with that one, like we all

436
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: together on this and we're making music for each other.

437
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: Then do we get a vote or how much this costs?

438
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: And how this work and how that work? Because right now, geeah, man,

439
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: they just made us some new groups, some new room

440
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: right just the way to really count it. Huh, how

441
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: can you really count the stream? Hey bro, you can't.

442
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: At least I know what I did and the way

443
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: them turns. Will said, I can eat forever. I truly

444
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: can eat forever. The way this set up, this is

445
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: like this fool's go pimp this like ship. They're good

446
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: right now, but twenty years from now, how you gonna

447
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: get damn? Tell me what I owe you? Right? Oh,

448
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: that's a fact. It's good while you're hot. I don't know.

449
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about where you're not at. Your kids ain't

450
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna eat. Hey man, this is eight South. So we're

451
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: sitting here to day with big gilt he giving us

452
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: the whole game. Shut then up. So we're right here,

453
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: we're right, we're right here. Do you still got a Cadillac?

454
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: I remember in your Pa Street when that that de

455
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Ville first dropped the round one like about the two thousand.

456
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 1: I'm telling me it was white, but but he had

457
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: the first one he had that he had the first

458
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: with the with the bubble lights and their thing he

459
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: pulled up on. I got to get the rest of

460
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: the good Monty. Hey man, I haven't seen them so

461
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: many times in my life in concert, and it was

462
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: always special like that. I see y'all the tabernacle and

463
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: it rained and everybody still was out there, still around here,

464
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, Like they ain't started

465
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: really building. Green brought up to their then ship before

466
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: I graduated, so it's like eight nineties, and then it

467
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: was still slow to the average eye. You know what

468
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean. If you wouldn't even streak, you didn't know.

469
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: And if he wasn't into the game, and you damn

470
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: show didn't know. You know what I mean? Kids, only

471
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: what you want is the freciest kids were it needs

472
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: from downtown. They had the freshiest year. Then these were

473
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: the killers through Like that was tick Wood. That was

474
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: all that ship going on down the whole another world.

475
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: And then that was like a whole another cement. And

476
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: that when that ship was like man, like you're going

477
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: That ship was like send the blocks like people literally

478
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: send the blocks upstairs and downstairs. Man, that ship was

479
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: like a whole another city, and that we're like, oh

480
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: that was that. That that the queer me and that

481
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: was a whole another city. Man. Ship was gotta understand.

482
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: That was the first project in the United States and

483
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: that ship was dead to have nothing but black people.

484
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: That she was a whole another that damn community, the

485
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: whole nother level. That ship shaped everything in the now.

486
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: The Fat Kid was everything. The first rapper the end

487
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: the game was Mojoe. That was the first mote we heard, Like, Yo, Mojo,

488
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That was the first mote

489
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: we heard. But then Shadi was he went then too.

490
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: You knew that was gonna have it okay, right he

491
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: he was the guy. And then the first the first

492
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: time I ever did the show, bro was on on

493
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: Stewart Avenue. Man I opened up for Sam. Sam the

494
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: first time I've seen saying like da local up. Yeah,

495
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: he's been going man ever real folks, see that's when

496
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: the old school see you can't talk to him still,

497
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm just saying that you

498
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: gotta realize that when he just asked me, man, what's

499
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: so and so? And what's so and so? That? Man,

500
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: they ain't built for you. This don't matter. The money,

501
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: no matter wasn't fo gazing no man at the time

502
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: when it happened. And now build Ford. You know what

503
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: I mean. I get choked up about talking about my

504
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: life because it'd be like ship man. I guess imagine

505
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 1: knowing watching feel seeing Pimp C and B put up

506
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: into Redune after their first halfage. I bet we're right here.

507
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: You're about to tell us how good at my jumped

508
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: in the game, how good him jumped in the game,

509
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: right there, right there, that the chill is in your

510
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: leaving grade class. That's what we stopped there, Okay, really

511
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: try to see there. No, so I got I got

512
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: to keep out of full count in night grade. I

513
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: beat up a twil grade up trying to beat me up,

514
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: so they put me out of the lanel because I

515
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: did karate on him. And this is a true true

516
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: story and it's amazing with your daddy, go go there

517
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: and then say hey man, why you you karate? He said,

518
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: we ship. I put him in school learning ship. He said,

519
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: what ship? Its gilt. You might need to take your son,

520
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: y'all might need to leave. He said, we got theamn

521
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: a wheel p out of here then, And I remember

522
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: that story because he stood up for me because I

523
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: ain't bothering nobody. So, okay, I'm in the level grade

524
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: chill in them. I knew she were gonna be a

525
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: start at the same time too, all this going on

526
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: up on the low in the in the hood, everybody

527
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: going to Jellybean during this time, that's when I meet, right,

528
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: I was telling y'all about Ray, right, he was the one.

529
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: He I had a group called six Cents. So we're

530
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: watching what's going on with your main Dallas not here

531
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: here in l A. Okay, the face started having uh

532
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: like tryouts. So I'm in this group called six Cents.

533
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: It's me Ray, my dude named Philipizo, and some girl dancers. Right,

534
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: so we're going we go to the the actual tryout.

535
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: It's a cludon, right. Yeah. The dude who actually they're

536
00:33:54,600 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: just doing it is Bryant read l a brother. He's

537
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: sitting at the table with Lisa Lopez just the first

538
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: time meet Lisa lopep We're going to bed. We got

539
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: there like ship man, we're gonna do we don'ta do.

540
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: We got up here, we did that thing. Okay. They

541
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: liked the boy with that one. What they were looking for,

542
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: they were looking for a good group to put together

543
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: with Lisa so that they didn't nobody get side. Right,

544
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: So I go over the dude name Glenn Cook. How

545
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: at this time, you know, we already did a thing

546
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: with the outcast, so they're over there working. So then

547
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: their last year's right, Okay, dude named Ian Bert is

548
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: the one who really started, who really started connecting with

549
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: with Pebble, so he started him and tea Bus they're

550
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: the ones to really start putting till see together at

551
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: this time. Right, it's going on a lot about damn

552
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: ned the same years, right, the same ship. Right, we

553
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: don't make it in there. I do chain game. That's two.

554
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: It's it's like it's two gangster. So I'm just looking around.

555
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm like fucking I'm solo, fucking radium. Just that's when

556
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: they moved the dungeon over the lakewood. So this is

557
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: when I go over to Glenn cook house and I

558
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: see see Low and cool Joe Baden. Go back, tell

559
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: us tell them about Cee Lo Seel come over, come

560
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: back over there with my homeboard named j D and

561
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: my home br bran uh. They call him a little

562
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: b killer be from e point So right, shall just

563
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,479
Speaker 1: started hanging out. Okay when wham, we're working on the AM.

564
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: When we finished up, we started really going up. That's

565
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: when read them started going up to actually Ballstown at

566
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: this time, that's when we got them with them. Motherfucking

567
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: Bobby moved to a lampin this boy he's like behind

568
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: the music. Good ship, man. I know the city was hot.

569
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 1: So you gotta understand l A had no hit. Yeah,

570
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: l A really like got damn got he started the label.

571
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: He got Jamaine Jackson. So they was like bust out, like, well,

572
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. So nigga wasn't trying to be

573
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: on the face and were looking at pebbles, right, So

574
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, like, this is what this is.

575
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: At the same time, just the first time ever, man

576
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: left out, but I didn't know what she could do, right.

577
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: So at the same time Ian Burke over there, we

578
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: got damn chilling them. All this going on right there

579
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: e Point Comedy Road to Lower All this end stayed

580
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: right there on Comedy Road behind the inn, their cafeterier,

581
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we he right there

582
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: putting till c together. Bro in the hood. It's him,

583
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: the other girls. She from the south Side, So that

584
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: was the original member. So that's when they got damn

585
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: KP don't like boy, they'y abody to go out there

586
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: meet pebbles. So they go out down and shouted lefter

587
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: already up though, okay, check this out. We liked that ship,

588
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: but we don't like shouting. That's the first time I

589
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: knew you gotta look at somebody could come back to

590
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: the hood and be like, man, that ship fund us

591
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: shouted like, they didn't push you all out of the

592
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: group cause they put us somebody else in there. You know,

593
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: the girl been around there doing that ship. So this

594
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: is the first time that Nigga's our age and came

595
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: back and said, boy, this ship get reaky. But then

596
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: like shout to put all that work and the put

597
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: her out. Okay I am. At the same time, that's

598
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: when they started doing their first kind of videos. We're like,

599
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: damn okay, they hit their motherfucker fuck around the hit

600
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: and then you start seeing Dallas Austin back in the

601
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: shitty man he got them Lamborghini out. Man being you

602
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean, was going on, you know what

603
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: I mean. So then he's like, what ship. So yeah,

604
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: it's like that nine early. So at the same at

605
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: the same time being Bob being wren't here the time

606
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: being this when Divine started running with Bobby. So this

607
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: one Bobby started being everywhere in the city. Money, You're

608
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: like everywhere looking like meet you at that time to

609
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: us like we're like, yeah, the ban with him. But

610
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: at the same time, let me tell you this, all

611
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: this ship that's going on down here and bucket, this

612
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: is the guy, the being being we were you know,

613
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: we could then on the streets. You got the hard boys.

614
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: You got them niggas back by a little Joing day

615
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: day little Join and and those niggas from the East side.

616
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: And this time these niggle was just like motherfucking goddamn

617
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: being mouth. Then then he's were hitting the south side

618
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: Old National that these niggers are already in Lamborghini. All

619
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: that ship that ship was back then brought in the

620
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: old lamborgha is pulling up. They were Dallas, you know

621
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: what I mean. So at this time this one, all

622
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: the south side started moving generally to the Old National

623
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: like this one niggas was on Old National. Because you

624
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,439
Speaker 1: gotta understand, man, at one time, Cam the road would

625
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: looked at It's like cam Creek right now, Yeah, and

626
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: the niggas they had no money really stayed over then

627
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: King Reads and then back across on on the other

628
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: side of the camp being healed. So at that time,

629
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: that's when all they got, damn. That's when they emergence

630
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: of street music came. That's when you heard carrying jailed

631
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: from Catherwood. When they came out with the Hard Boys,

632
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: That's when I knew the streets was was coming up

633
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: because these niggas did with BMLP did they had bill

634
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: Boys up, then they had the Hard Boys. Beer Boy

635
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: was up bright Wood, all that ship was j D

636
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: had his. They did that in nine you know, I

637
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: mean like the way before, because these were the things

638
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: that took over the streets once they ran the Miami

639
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: Boys out of time. So it was all Atlanta niggas

640
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: like like, I can't say names, you know what I mean,

641
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: don't know, So you gotta still understand that man bad

642
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: then man, the real names were still on the street. Man,

643
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: all their floods and going on, they'd be doing man

644
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: like uh man, like oh man, they wouldn't a loud

645
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: at then if you if you, if you, if you will,

646
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: if you will even working still, like how they the

647
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: let me get that bulls caught off your b nothing all,

648
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Just okay, so you gotta understand. Okay,

649
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: that's going on. KP get on. We got damn TLC.

650
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: That's when we started really like he started like, okay,

651
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: we're doing p A album. At that time, we're still

652
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: all in the dungeon. Man, We're still all over there

653
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: in that house. So we're still all really in the street.

654
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: My nigga, I'm doing I was in hair school on

655
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: on MLK in the Plaza, Cool Joint and Backbone. They

656
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: were down in Dixie Hill, man, they were down there

657
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: getting to it, you know what I mean. So I

658
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: was in and out of d C here. So I'm

659
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: out of school there an't got them going. I got

660
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: a job on Old National in the warehouses. So I'm

661
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: doing that. I'm going through the dungeon. I'm staying up

662
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: all night. I'm going to hair school and like fuck it.

663
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: You gotta look man, Bonna Brothers was the first ship.

664
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: So so for these in Atlanta, it was about ship.

665
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna got them and get clean. Man, We're about

666
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: to be And they got them slum with the hole.

667
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: They had the young like like this this ship we

668
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: got there gamegle running around the fingerway in the here

669
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: man slicker nigger wasn'tiggle with Jordas Young cut with this

670
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 1: slid at the bottle, but had the alligator belt man

671
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: when they got the still shirt. That was the negative

672
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: the brows because then but he pulled up in THEO

673
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: BN double the BBS is own it. So Atlanta was

674
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: like that. I'm just saying Atlanta, all this was going

675
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: on street ship. Okay. Let me tell you, like why

676
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: it was different from me and the music and why

677
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: I never went into this just wanted to be a rapper,

678
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: just saying I'm a rapper because it was like the

679
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: lady I told you about, Gene carn She was the

680
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: first one that I went over to our house and

681
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: she had a new edition over our house. I met

682
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Pebo Bryson over the house. I met uh Stevie Wonder

683
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: over the house, and I didn't even fully know who

684
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: these people was at the time I was a child.

685
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: She took me the first time I went to the

686
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: Full and County Stadium. Her daughter had her birthday party

687
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: with the Jacks some five the front door. So like

688
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: For me, I was already introduced to the to the

689
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: to the lifestyle of it because I was at a house.

690
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: I was watching how she turned her her garage into

691
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: a dressing roll and like she just had shoes and

692
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: shoes and outfits and ship like that, you know what

693
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean. Like okay, Like from there, she was the

694
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: first one to take me two sensations with hun people

695
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: of Bryson did extra show. So as a kid I

696
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: was I was always around it, like the whole camel

697
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: to roll all that ship and she was all stars.

698
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: It was like Curtis Mayfield. As a kid, I used

699
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: to see the dude there was in Cameo. He to

700
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: ride them down the street in a in a red

701
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: Ferrari man that was all up down green brow. That's

702
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: one green brow with Lennox, you know what I mean.

703
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: So you gotta look what's going on in time. All

704
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: this is going on. They're over there putting on TLC okay,

705
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: bam pebbles, putting them on KP. In the house. They

706
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: get the deal KP. Get uh, they help KP. They

707
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: get the deal with p A. Okay, that's mellow on Reese.

708
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: Then the first two people have got signed out of us.

709
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: So so I'm saying that for this say that's when

710
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: they brought organized Nors. So at this time we couldn't

711
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: we were the goon man. We we couldn't really even

712
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: go into the studio. We we mostly go to the

713
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: studio and hang outside like you will be either Doppler,

714
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: uh boss town at the time and ship man, we

715
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: were just sitting in the park a lot of post

716
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: towns just got damn wait for Bobby to come to

717
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: just be just that was our ship, like damn, there

718
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: you go. Okay, you know it was a ship like that,

719
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: and then it was like a Doppler. We couldn't really

720
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: going there because that was really like an upscale studio,

721
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean at the time. So what

722
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying doing all that time is all this is

723
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: going on at the same time, we're not on yet.

724
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: But then j D get on with Cris Cross and

725
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: we're watching this ship. We're like, damn like j D

726
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: and got on like ship he hit now, you know

727
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 1: what I mean. So we gover the j D House

728
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: something that was the first time to cool you on

729
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: Timo gay k j D a Lumberjack c D. And

730
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: he was like man like j D knew then he

731
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: was like thet they got something, I just don't know

732
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: what to do with it right now, you know what

733
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm glad you you see, I got

734
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: that history right then because I thought lumberjack can't wait later.

735
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know that lumber Jack's was a group before

736
00:45:53,560 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: all this I did. Yeah. Yeah, it was just him

737
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: and Timo. Okay, so you weren't even did a little

738
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: Jackson so many split to the family tree. That's why

739
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: we got to get the whole history. Then we get

740
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: to the other right right right this Yeah, it's just

741
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: like how everything going on and at the same time,

742
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: we just all in the dungeon. Were just all in

743
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: the dungeon, just doing what we do, you know what

744
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean. And they was actually working with shout at them.

745
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: They was actually like yo, do this, do that? You know,

746
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: do that? So you okay, all this going on outcast

747
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: wrap on their ship on a remix. It was like okay,

748
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: then this thing, you know, it was like and they

749
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: was like, okay, we're gonna sign outcast now for us.

750
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: We were like ship that's us too, Like funk that ship.

751
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: So it was just just imagine just one day, we

752
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: get the call like two o'clock. They're like, man shouting

753
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: him insane and I was like what, I'm at the

754
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: wet house. I'm in school. I mean all that ship

755
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: I got fitted on the hours before I could have finished,

756
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: got them house school and high school for me was

757
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: like ship, I then we're gonna get the money with

758
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: everybody was in high school ship with the barn of

759
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: brothers or you was getting the guy down car washes,

760
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the bullshit type ship. I

761
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: was talking about, let me go get the money. Man.

762
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: They come on and I's thinking about something. I was.

763
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: They don't know. We worked, we don't matter what we

764
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: got money. I had that and I had a warehouse job.

765
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there at the warehouse job. They called

766
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: me at lunch, was like, yo, my name. They signed

767
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: the day. I was like for real. I was like, shipday,

768
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: my lad day. I walked down on that mother, but

769
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: were out of here, but we signed, but we go

770
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: So it was like, okay, they went down, we knew

771
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: we got we we knew that was going on. Okay.

772
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: At the same time, you still gotta understand, ain't nobody

773
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: really you can't really seek. You can't really see criss

774
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: Cross success. You can't really see j D success because

775
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: this ship was out wid Like this ship was out wids.

776
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: It was big and we couldn't really fill it here

777
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: Because so while we watching this ship, I don't can't

778
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: do they say, man, we need a record. At the

779
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: same time, you'll gotta understand, we performed for them man

780
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: two times and he was like, man, you know we

781
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: went to crossover phone phone. He was like man, So

782
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: we were like, we were like, damn okay. So so

783
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 1: what he did was I guess once we got saying,

784
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: he was like, it was almost like a tist like

785
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: ship right that record. So when they wrote the record,

786
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 1: it took almost six months. Like we're sitting around like

787
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: we don't know at that time, and they weren't playing

788
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: rap music on V one oh three, there was not

789
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: They was not playing that ship. They weren't playing nothing around.

790
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: He was got damn w a okay eighty eight point

791
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: nine eight eight point eight eight point five period the

792
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: here hip hop. So in that time, you gotta understand,

793
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: we're watching TLC come together. I'm watching because I involved

794
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: with TLC, read them already know them. You watching out

795
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: cash they forming into a group. They don't really know.

796
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we did the song, you know, we didn't

797
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: know they put that ship on the Christmas album and

798
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: we went on living like we didn't handled deal, you

799
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So at the time when it

800
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: actually happened, it was like six months down there, eight

801
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: months later, so doing all this time, the good Him

802
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: All was just there. You know. We went in and

803
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: we did we did our verses, but it was like

804
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: ship this ship kind of strange, you know what I mean,

805
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: because we just went in, we did our versus Joden.

806
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: When it did their versus Man, we hadn't even heard

807
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: the ship into the album came out. We didn't even

808
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: know what we did. So if you go back and

809
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: listen to it, that's what Drey said, big gilt, good

810
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: him Up. I wouldn't even me in Good him All.

811
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: Then on the first album, me and CeeLo solo, m

812
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, so all this is going

813
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: on fast, bro, like this is going on fair. Then

814
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, man, good y'all. They could put they

815
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: they did that single lit when they did GETO Get Out.

816
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: That's when me and Selo new, you know, because really

817
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: like the whole idea was like it was like ship dude,

818
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: that whole idea for that video. It just came about

819
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: really like the folks just walking in and just like yo,

820
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 1: y'all just be silver, you know, CeeLo relegate him the

821
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: idea of funking with yourself like that. You know what,

822
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: I man, How they get something? How would you make it?

823
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: If you try? You need to get get something because

824
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: you wish I got to do when I never graduating

825
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: at Sometimes I feel like that's such disappointment to y'all.

826
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: Every day I had to go around that I gave

827
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: me down, always ask me something that life like mom

828
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: time and truth. My heart just got enough problems of

829
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: our own las who's are supposed to be? Crone? I agree,

830
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: I got be the man I'm supposed to be, but

831
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: had untill for the gas one see to see I

832
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: admit I've got something and I put be gonna through

833
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: some money. You ship and hold that against me? Why not?

834
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: My music is all that I ain't got, but some

835
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: time as weak and trust the phone, this super man

836
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: of fust shift me. I know you know what I'm

837
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna say this to you. I get it, but I

838
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: don't get so must they am't it supposed to be?

839
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: That must be why you can't get yourself for punk

840
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: the bed, But for for you, we should get up

841
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: ahead and hat that rul Ain't you sick and tire?

842
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: And I'm happened to to win out damn was on

843
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: this questions? You asking so you know something? I don't

844
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: do you happiness suggestions? Just's happened up? Like get this

845
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: cruel and demeaning. She can take your trash how and

846
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: torn it gone clean? And but I'm not sick and

847
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: kind of struck. And then I never an apposode. I

848
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: have to resort to drum smugger left that ain't one

849
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: my brother, see no one just continue trapping this route

850
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: without the need out. I don't go only they trot

851
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 1: me this far so he can trump me on fire.

852
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Then I make myself clean to get up, get out

853
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: and get something. Don't like the days of your like

854
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: glass fine, you need to get up, get out, ain't

855
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: get something. Don't spend all the time trying to get time.

856
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: You need to get up, get out and get some

857
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: how would you make it? If you're there for even try.

858
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: You need to get get out and get something, because

859
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: you with hack to do for you without people in

860
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: my path to do me. Screw me. Told me over

861
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: in the funder let me get chunky at you all

862
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: the pie. Some one of those spirits got to move.

863
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: The time I'm getting pep noticed that is like it

864
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: by the time you've been sitting the moaning, and then

865
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: nobody up there. I got my loan, time my coner

866
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: to my ball carom and out the dope to get

867
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: up in my ride, I'm taking through the ass train

868
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: up and that half a good day. I have to

869
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: make us the best. And when I lightning up. But here,

870
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: boys in my head, ain't get no one know what

871
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 1: my dad is. He saw that black up in my career.

872
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: Be my grits break out quick in my sleep, and

873
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: he calls the bill steady bouncing out the point the

874
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: Camperton Road, the valley on the south side. Blow. Everybody

875
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: know about the killer that we call low. So get

876
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: your wattle up on the copa Una say no for

877
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: chopping out of black shat. He trust to throw the

878
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: bony come the red dog around the corner in my

879
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: hole from that ever, yeah, I'm scared. So what did

880
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: it ship? My kind of because I have no time

881
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: for toil clapping cops. Colt lace Camp cut the whole

882
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: country thinking that my city is the big lag or not.

883
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: I did second tiny boat, keep good in Moore outcast

884
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: a vision from the path my white house. I've hurting

885
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: kind of slow. He needs to get up. But I'm

886
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: telling you that because it's a lot of things that

887
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: we're going on, that that each individual was give into

888
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: the to the to the sauce age the time, we

889
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: couldn't even see it. You gotta remember them people on

890
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: every piece of g d O. Everything we was laid

891
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: on everything, So what we was doing was totally natural.

892
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: And that's what's kind of like. I look at the

893
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: day and I'm like, the only thing is different is

894
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: that we didn't have nothing to grab or take from.

895
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: Like you couldn't look at the nigga sauce to day

896
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: right now and going by the nigga sauce right stealing

897
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: took too long. You couldn't even copy eight months. You

898
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: know what this uh? You know, I tell the the

899
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: story is is also going on at all the same

900
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: time everything is new, like like like the success of

901
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: Dallas is new. God damn. That's when you're having the

902
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: first of all, you gotta understand that at one time,

903
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: every group that came through Atlanta had to go to

904
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: that damn Green Ride. That's where you saw everybody. You

905
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: could just stand outside Green Brod you see, you know,

906
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: all the stars go in and go into Oxman and

907
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: be like ship, they're free, they go down the time. Okay,

908
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: if you look at why the kids were so effective

909
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: with music was because six Flags at a time used

910
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: to throw all the concerts doing the going back to

911
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: school and going back to school at six Flags, So

912
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: that was the only time the kids got to see

913
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: live music. I got to see Earth winning five, I

914
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: got to see that there cool in the game, I

915
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: got to see prints, I got to see all that

916
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: ship as a child, and Princes up there doing that

917
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: while that ship then back to school show. Yeah, because

918
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: it was Prince, but nobody ever questioned what he was

919
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: because if you saw him live before the videos, he

920
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: was like ship and he read just that. Then he

921
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: got his own style, you know. You know, and I'm

922
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: telling you that that all was going on at the

923
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: same time there where when when when YLC became successful,

924
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: the way they was, it was like a shot there. Everybody.

925
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: It was like damn you know man, Okay. At the

926
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: same time, I'm like, okay, Ship, this ship ain't working

927
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: before this, I'm like, she ain't working. I met this

928
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: house and I'm messing with cool brees. We out it

929
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: this dude and this dude studio and he having like

930
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: a party. That was the first time I got to

931
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: see a skate Like they walked out there in their head.

932
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: They used to wear out damn hoods and they took

933
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: their hoods off once they started sounding out. The first

934
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 1: time that anybody ever seeing it was like the first

935
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: day j D seen him and everything. It was like, damn, okay,

936
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: there's girl groups. We still wasn't together. It was just

937
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: shipped five and we're running from house to house. We're

938
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: doing our thing, you know what I mean. We really

939
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: didn't get signed into almost out care we're going into.

940
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: They was out. They were platinum when we got sign

941
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: So it was like ship that was almost two three

942
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,479
Speaker 1: years bro from the time we started working with them people,

943
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: so we were still deep in the street and still

944
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: doing what we do. So we started missing around, you know,

945
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: read them start getting in man, and that's when they

946
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: started going to New York and I then they were like, man,

947
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: nigga ain't puffy picked us up. I was like, where

948
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: y'all get your weeds something? And they ain't branding, you

949
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we heard this like ninety

950
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: one nine two, like, so read them coming back. They're like, Okay,

951
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 1: we gotta really do something now, we gotta we gotta

952
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: do the outcast album, you know what I mean, Like,

953
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: we gotta really do the album. So when they do it,

954
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: they put it out, the success started coming, they started moving.

955
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: They were like, fucking good, n'man to do an album. Bro.

956
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: We went and there and it was just like okay,

957
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: now we gotta budget. So just imagine Folk Street and

958
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: he was doing all whatever and it's like ship okay,

959
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: we gotta butget y'all net gotta do an album. We're

960
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: like ship okay. So yeah, So at this time, at

961
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: this very same time is when arrans to put out

962
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 1: this double this double, this double cassette. They had three

963
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: songs from Big three songs our Kay. It was like

964
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: the bad Boy the Face ship. Right. We read them say, man,

965
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: we can't. We never could record and done your out

966
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: cares before they did, they hold album at Bollstown. So

967
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: read them with like funk that we ain't gonna do

968
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: the album in Bollstown. We just did that, what should

969
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: we do? So Read was like, Yo, we're gonna go

970
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go and do the album and Curtis

971
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: Mayfield House and I'm like, huh well and You're like yeah,

972
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: on County Road on the other side. So imagine we go,

973
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: we pull out. We had Curtis Mayfield House, his son

974
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: come out with me them. You know, he had moved

975
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: on to the other house, but when you walked into

976
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: his room, all his ship was still in there, like

977
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: the original goddamn reels from super Fly, Like he had

978
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: clothes in there. You're still I feel like you stole somebody.

979
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: He gave me up. He gave I did. Still, I

980
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: feel like this style was like this, Look at this

981
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: thing he had. He had. He had to jumpsuit. Jumpsuit

982
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: I wore. Soul food was his. That's a that's exclusive

983
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: right there. That's exclusive. Like in real life, bro, Like

984
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: all this is going on at the same time, we're

985
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: watching our caast. You know, they're going out on every night.

986
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: This is the first time they were like, yo, man,

987
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: we're going, bro, we go, We're going to Dallas. We're

988
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna do the Dallas Stadium. And I was like, ship,

989
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't on on this one name, so just do this.

990
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: This is like the first This is like the first time.

991
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: Like they were like, come on, give it, so we

992
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: all go out this the first time I leave Atlanta

993
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: to jump on the plane. Was shot at him and

994
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: we get them. Man, it's Tony Tony, Tony on the show.

995
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: Is everybody on the show money? Like it's goddamn because

996
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: you remember that back them times R and B special

997
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: Money is all man. Then they came out there, Man,

998
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: they did them them like these albums wasn't even out yet,

999
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: like they were just now starting to come out. Man,

1000
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: a whole stadium full of people. Bro. That was the

1001
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: first time I realized like damn, like like damn, like

1002
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: this ship bigger than allwum, you know what I mean.

1003
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: Like so with that just coming back, you still gott

1004
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: understand good to them all. Was just putting the album together.

1005
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: We really didn't no ship. So it was like okay, Reek,

1006
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: we said, man, we're gonna get down to the last

1007
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: the last couple of songs. The first song we ever

1008
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: recorded was Blood, the first song we ever recorded. Then

1009
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: The last song we ever recorded was really like from

1010
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: that first album was sailed There? What that was the

1011
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: last one? Man? What was What was that like when

1012
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: you first heard that ship? When you first heard it

1013
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: beat the Yeah, because it was one of the hardest

1014
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: beats in hip hop history. Uh, it was a different

1015
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: beat because at that time, I didn't know where it

1016
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: worked there, you know what I mean, Like I didn't know.

1017
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know where it worked there, but I trusted

1018
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: read them. I knew that that piano was something that

1019
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: was special. But I was like, man, the way it's

1020
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: dropping this so that damn Like you know, I was

1021
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: just used to got them were in there. We didn't

1022
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: grow up, you know what I mean. But I was like, Okay,

1023
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: this is different. But at the same time, I knew

1024
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: that we was in a time where were sitting out

1025
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: there watching the TV and we're watching We're watching folks

1026
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 1: like um Man, like we saw the first Hue Team,

1027
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: were watching like some the record that really shook us,

1028
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: Like at that time. The records we were listening to

1029
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: at that time was like was Big Mike, I'm serious

1030
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: album We were listening and got to him like yeah,

1031
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: we were listening to the Big Mike I'm Serious album.

1032
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: Then he was busting on that and we were like,

1033
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: we just bus you know what I mean. We were

1034
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: listening to God Damn Hard to Swallow pimp them they

1035
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: first out, We were listening to goddamn um eight Ball

1036
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: and m J G Man Like this ship was just

1037
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: so hard. Mr B. Mr B. We used to just yeah,

1038
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: that motherfuer was just like and all we were doing

1039
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: was just trying to concentrate on something. Dudes, they were

1040
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: really busting and we wanted to compete with them because

1041
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: we looked at it like everybody else wasn't really fucking

1042
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: with us. So when we did, when we did, I

1043
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: am bro Like, you gotta understand, man, cool Joe, there's

1044
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: a whole another type of rhymer, Like he still is

1045
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: the rapper. They're really like if you go back and

1046
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: listen all that ship, all ship the Niggs made popular. Man,

1047
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: that ship that man came up with he was a

1048
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: juke box back then. He came up with it all

1049
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,919
Speaker 1: that different. Slain Remember when we dropped the Slain Box. Yeah,

1050
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: Like that's cool Joe. So you gotta understand, Like when

1051
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: you asked me onside, like what it feels like when

1052
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: people overlook y'all, it's like it ain't about overlooking us

1053
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: because what we was here for. We were supposed to

1054
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: be overlooked to a certain step because the things we

1055
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: chose to do. It's like it's a difference when you

1056
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: first when we did said then we're like, funk are

1057
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: we going with it? It was like ship MTV banned us,

1058
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? When we first came out,

1059
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: we got that we'd never play y'all. That's why Harvard

1060
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: count As soon as we got bad, MTV called Harvard

1061
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: calls us and said, we want you all to come

1062
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: speaking Harvard because we want to know why MTV band

1063
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: y'all and called y'all races. So just imagine like on

1064
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: that first half, it was more about us trying to

1065
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: protect that who we was and what the music was

1066
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: talking about. I didn't even know they had like little

1067
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: y'all had like the old like the you know, the

1068
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: black face cartoons and all of the banned us. Jay

1069
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: Z is doing that. Now when you get how you

1070
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: had to feel to see jay Z, y'all was on

1071
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: that way back there and not even still this just

1072
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: didn't know that that that we wanted fart that what

1073
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: we said was true. That's all. You know what I

1074
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: mean that what we said it was true because now

1075
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: I know it's being used in the commercial way. It's

1076
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: money being made. You know. Right then it was that

1077
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: good at MARB. It's like young Nia, you always assumed

1078
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: that all y'all was already grown, you know, like they

1079
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: didn't get y'all the benefit of being you know, but

1080
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying growing up here though, y'all was We was

1081
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: after the a football game, were good, good and bad?

1082
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: Brother before the game, ain't no more you what I mean?

1083
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 1: It was? It was that's when I started smoking. We

1084
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: good to bad because it was something else. It was

1085
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: something else, man, Like I go through it a lot

1086
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: of times. It's like when you lived a lot of times,

1087
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: like it's hard. Like I'm gonna tell y'all when we

1088
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: when we wrote c little book, like I had to

1089
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: really sit down with the writer of the process or

1090
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: how you process somebody when you when you asked me

1091
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: stuff about in my life most the time, it's like

1092
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 1: it go from here and there because when you live

1093
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: in it, it's like all the blur. Just like when

1094
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: I when I when I look at the kids, and

1095
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 1: now I'm like, man, you don't know, like we used

1096
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: to two off one album for two years, you know

1097
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like when a mom get the guy

1098
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: they're really live with your alm and hear what you're saying. Understand.

1099
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: It's like now it's almost like we're racing to get it,

1100
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: but we're also racing to get to the necks. Bro.

1101
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: I remember when y'all dropped the a t L and

1102
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: sample of that freaking it that Land did freaking it,

1103
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: that the all the just the snippers, eary sothing. But

1104
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 1: we was fighting all that tape like that was that

1105
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: was something because we really wanted people. We that's the

1106
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: splace that we knew people hadn't attacked yet. Everybody was

1107
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,640
Speaker 1: so trying to be and trying to fit in what

1108
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: everybody else was doing. We came in the door saying,

1109
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: funk that we're not fitting in, you know what I mean.

1110
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: So it's like when you when you think about it

1111
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: as an artist, if I came in on the record

1112
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: like like sale therapy, what you expect from me? You

1113
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: can't go around if a nigue come in and you're

1114
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: successful one way. So just imagine when when Knees was

1115
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: like yo, Like fuck fun being small news. It's about

1116
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: the club, Like huh, Like what when did we start

1117
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: thinking like that? You know what I mean? Like, and

1118
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: they ain't tripping on that. It's like, it's just that

1119
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: once we started out there trying to tear down the

1120
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: actual the people that helped us get there, you can't

1121
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 1: do it. You're like, that's how the streets survived. It's like, yeah,

1122
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: you gotta look right there. Yeah, shot him, man, y'all

1123
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: get him more money than he's ever got in this

1124
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: ship faster than any motherfucker's ain't got it. But when

1125
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: you keep it, my nigga got a long time to live.

1126
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: So don't just expect me by having knew because the

1127
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: feeling of that ship, it's the same feeling. It's like,

1128
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: but once you have it, hey man, we'll see the

1129
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: game is set up for you to to to get

1130
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: right back. Oh man, you ain't shooting. Lets you spend

1131
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: a hunting that on your watch. Oh man, you ship,

1132
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: if you got that, got them to watch, had to

1133
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: watch you dude in there and the car dude in

1134
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: the room with you, be over there, the diamond dude,

1135
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: the mortgage dude right there. They all friends it's all.

1136
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: It's all, it's a game, you know what I mean.

1137
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: So for me personally, it's like when people ask me

1138
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: about different times in Atlanta, it was different times in

1139
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: Atlanta that it was all six It was nobody downtown, nobody,

1140
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: nobody did no clubs downtown. First time we did the

1141
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: show downtown, it was outcast, Biggie Small and Craig Mac

1142
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: We're at the Wall House, first time we ever stepped downtown. Like, Yo,

1143
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: what's at it? You know what I mean? What's it?

1144
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I mean, that was the

1145
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: first night we met Chris Tucker and he you know

1146
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's I was like, that's the first

1147
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: That's the same week he left it and went and

1148
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: did comedy Death Jam were like that from Atlanta, you

1149
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So you gotta understand all this

1150
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: going on at the same time when every situation in

1151
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: Atlanta is about the bubble, every type, you know what

1152
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean. So you gotta look. Once you start seeing

1153
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: Bobby and Winning on the scene, l A on the scene,

1154
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: they started having success with TILC, you know, puff them

1155
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: in town. You're seeing big Man, Like it was a

1156
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: different time. Okay, at this time This is when Kyle

1157
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: don Pea Street. This one here, everybody really started like

1158
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: getting together in like one cup of It's vibe. So

1159
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: doing during this time, this is the first time I

1160
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: meet Alex like he parking cars out here. I'm like, damn,

1161
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: Like that's what Alex come you no like? So it

1162
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is when we started meeting other

1163
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: people that's coming into Atlanta. Like we started the people

1164
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: start really living here then, you know what I mean?

1165
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: So Atlanta was changing. It was turning into that black Hollywood.

1166
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: Were turned into a black Hollywood where you expected all

1167
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: the people that was really here, like you respected the music,

1168
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: the catalogs. Man to see baby facing the city like

1169
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: this ship was something else, you know what I mean.

1170
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: Perkinson Park, you know we're talking. I was talking to

1171
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: my man new Face, right. He told me to ask

1172
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: you about when Buster Ryans came through with the Behold

1173
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: the Power Horse book. Riek them at the time was

1174
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 1: working on I was working on tlc A at dart Um.

1175
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: This is also the time that that the Dallas had

1176
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 1: had Rowdy going and I think he had signed Buster cousin.

1177
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: So they was in one room and Rid there was

1178
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: another moom kind of make messing with the TLC stuff.

1179
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: So at the time we couldn't go up there, but

1180
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: they gave they gave him a book. Bus gave him

1181
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: a book. So when they brought it back, like bi

1182
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: gru had shout out the big roup, yeah big he read,

1183
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: he read, he read the book, and then he passed

1184
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 1: around and he said, everybody needs to read this book.

1185
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,919
Speaker 1: After after we read that book, it's really what created

1186
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: the song see a Therapy because the whole time we

1187
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: was we was laying records like good I mean, all

1188
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: this stuff that was on Soul Food, the first records, like,

1189
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,600
Speaker 1: we didn't have that knowledge. So in the middle of

1190
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: that creating the album, we got that knowledge and that's

1191
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: what created seal Therapy. Self therapy is a Negro spiritual.

1192
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: You know, do Dove seen that shut down and cruise

1193
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: ship on many occasions you understand, like white lawyer women

1194
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:38,680
Speaker 1: are like, oh whank God college and can I ask

1195
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: you something? That would being from Atlanta and you was

1196
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: arounding them days. It was a club called five five

1197
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: nine hosted by the legendary Bruce Bruce shot shot showing

1198
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 1: me all these pictures with all y'all man like back

1199
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: in the day we're talking about like the comedy scene

1200
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 1: and how to wrap. So y'all was kind of always

1201
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 1: together for some reason in Atlanta. Everybody always used to

1202
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: jone and like it was like it was like it

1203
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 1: was like we started doing it was like five five

1204
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 1: nine bro, Like five five now was the equivalent today

1205
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: of what crucial is. That's what that's still equivalent to

1206
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 1: five five hang out. But but but but it was

1207
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: right there in the west then, right so Bruce Bruce

1208
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 1: was doing it all the way side and it was going.

1209
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: Everybody was spending money. That's the first time it was

1210
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: like a club that was kind of downtown. There was

1211
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: hood that was right down the coast of the hood

1212
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: and and you know, like downtown, and it was like

1213
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: that was the first time you started seeing comedy as

1214
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: that's the first that's the first place I've seen do

1215
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 1: do Brown Like uh man, like he's still doing it.

1216
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 1: He's still still out here, shout out, salute down. Yeah,

1217
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: it was like that was the first time, like the

1218
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: comedy x first start coming in, like it was it was.

1219
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: It was a real big thing for me because I

1220
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: think that was the first time that comedy and hip

1221
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: hop had came together to see it and they worked. Man,

1222
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: that's my drill. Want to go a documentary on the

1223
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: five five nine man, Because I was young enough to

1224
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: know about it, but I was just young enough to

1225
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: not be able to get in. And when it closed,

1226
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: I was out there and prom I was six, but

1227
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: it was like Bro and one of y'all get the

1228
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: funk I'm telling you, but I'm embarrassing shot like back,

1229
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: I can get somebody call Bro. I gotta I gotta

1230
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: get somebody call. So I never really got in, but

1231
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: I've heard the legendary nights and the strip, everybody riding

1232
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: down with their blazers and the sts and ship it.

1233
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: It was drill deal and Helen Heavenly you know Sesame

1234
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: Street one of my favorite good at Mob songs. Man,

1235
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: that was a real song. Hell yeah, that's a real

1236
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: It's still real and relevant right now. I with it

1237
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: there now. And then fly Away. I thought that was

1238
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: one of the craziest big gift verses at all. Not

1239
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: what they thought about that, but boy that was But

1240
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,720
Speaker 1: fat people all around the world saluted that intro. Man,

1241
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: tell tell me about fly Away. Man. Fly Away was

1242
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: a record that was doing and he was doing the

1243
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: bad boy and organized noise. It was like it was

1244
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: amazing because it was a fun weekend. Everything was cool.

1245
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: But I mean we lost the basketball game, and I

1246
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 1: mean at the same time, we had this record playing

1247
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 1: the whole time during the same time as we lost

1248
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: the basketball the game in the dungeon, and it just

1249
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: made us feel like yo, like from now, like if

1250
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: you don't like where I stayed, fly away and we

1251
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: took it because it wasn't it wasn't puff them. It

1252
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: was just different people that were there. It was their

1253
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: first time to the South. So you know how when

1254
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 1: people come around you playing and y'all ain't gotta y'all

1255
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: got But I mean we had demand it though, you

1256
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But we still let you know,

1257
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: you know how you hear people talking to ship and

1258
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: at that time, man, we were kind of fish man.

1259
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: We would tell your head. Oh man, at that time,

1260
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 1: we were two hundred deep, like when we did that

1261
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: week and that was the first time I ever seen

1262
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 1: dudes like me, you know what I mean. That was

1263
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: the first time ever I ever met me. And it

1264
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: was like you gotta understand, like people whole whole style,

1265
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 1: that whole style of what they were doing that was us,

1266
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: Like that was us in the gentleman club era, because

1267
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: that's how we used to hit the club, you know

1268
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's like for me and at

1269
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: that time, and and it just be tripped me out

1270
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: sometime that people I don't understand what people gravitate to

1271
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 1: certain people about, Like are you gravitating to a person

1272
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: because they got them making a way for you, or

1273
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: you gravitating to a person that's got they're doing something

1274
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: culturally good, something that's changing your your lifestyle. Because a

1275
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: lot of times you gotta understand that in this in

1276
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: this new world has just seems like it's real hard

1277
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,440
Speaker 1: for people to be themselves. It's real is because everybody's

1278
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: just eating all everybody's plate to to stay in the game.

1279
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, okay, so how long does this last?

1280
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: Because you gotta understand when they was doing the same

1281
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: thing that they're doing to us right now to the

1282
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: to rock and roll, like then it really relies on

1283
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: you having a great stage show. No me being a

1284
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:43,719
Speaker 1: person that's always been about the stage, Like it's about stage.

1285
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: Like people used to always ask me, like your gilt,

1286
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: like how you came up with the way you used

1287
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: to dress, I said, man, like for real, Like I

1288
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: just my grandmom used to take me down to the

1289
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: wrestling when I was little, so I used to go

1290
01:16:55,439 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: to gays. Yeah, and you know, like some of my

1291
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 1: favorite stars were the ones. You know, Rick Flett was

1292
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: always there, you know what I mean, Like, like you know,

1293
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: it was so many of them. Kind of starts really

1294
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: actually being in Atlanta and being able to go down

1295
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: the Channel seven team and just see that ship lave

1296
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: and be like, man, look at them costume like that.

1297
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: I used to always be like that ship. That ship worked,

1298
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And you gotta understand, like

1299
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:30,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't about it wasn't about no gendres then, Like

1300
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: music was music like when you hit when you hear

1301
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,440
Speaker 1: I wear my sunglass at night, Like it wasn't cateacterized.

1302
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't like rock pop, It wasn't none of that

1303
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: then coming up, he was just music. So so it's

1304
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: like for me personally, I know I was different because

1305
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 1: it was like ship. When I first started get my money,

1306
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: I'd be like, ship, why I'm gonna go to goddamn

1307
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: Why I'm gonna go to goddam Green Brian bought some ship.

1308
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: When everybody's gonna have my ship on, you know what

1309
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean. You gotta remember, like I was thinking, like shop,

1310
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: I got, I got fhold. Niggas in the group like ship.

1311
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: They're gonna go to Greenbride, the flea market, nigga ship

1312
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: and they're gonna work that ship. So I'm like and

1313
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: then that you gotta remember like Lennox wasn't then we

1314
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: hung out there Like Lennox was a place where you

1315
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: went in, you got your ship, you got back on

1316
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 1: the trains had cars. So Nickas was getting on the

1317
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: train and go to len So and you know, Lennis

1318
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: were like ship, if I'm gonna go to Linz, I

1319
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: might well go to God in Greenbrode, you know what

1320
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: I mean. Macon's and Riches all that ship that us

1321
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: were like ship, that's where it said, So you gotta

1322
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: look at I was kind of like, hmm them first

1323
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,640
Speaker 1: good at mab bamms. I was like, she ain't going

1324
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,839
Speaker 1: to goddamn place like that. I'm gonna go to goddamn

1325
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: to the good Wheel. And I was just like it

1326
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't even nothing. It wasn't the nigga didn't

1327
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: have him when it was just like I already knew

1328
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: how other needs do. They already knew, like they're gonna

1329
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: go get some fresh shoot and they're gonna get a

1330
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: polo as that, you know what I mean. Other Like, man,

1331
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: they ain't doing that standing. So I was just like ship, Okay,

1332
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: I was like funk that. Like I started going to

1333
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: the gathering thrift STOs like we're on the road. I

1334
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: go to the thrift stores and I'm looking this ship

1335
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, man, I'm gonna start making my ship.

1336
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: So I started when I started coming back to and

1337
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: then I started going to the fabry store down Chess

1338
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: the Bridge and I just started walking around looking at

1339
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 1: fabric and ship like man, ship, I want them for

1340
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: kind of planes nig And see how I try my

1341
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: shift out. I go put on fur pans and he

1342
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: can go at the magic city and even stand up

1343
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: in the gap then Goombay and the beach like Nigga

1344
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: want to say something, Oh this is the real story

1345
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: of it life. Nigga went the city first say something.

1346
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 1: He would tell your head off, you know what I mean.

1347
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: So it was like that was that was the way

1348
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: that that that was the way I did was like

1349
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: that was Instagram really just Instagram in your life. I

1350
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: did it in real life, like I went into like

1351
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,800
Speaker 1: and what like Nina what like like man, get up

1352
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: and goddamn my man, Kip is in God then Magesty

1353
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: there with some lime green monkey monkey hair pain hell

1354
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 1: like He's like, man, they need to crazy, man, they

1355
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: need to Like man, Nika knew I would working with

1356
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: because they Nigga knew like they hang on decent hill. Man,

1357
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: you know all the needles from the South side and

1358
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: you know all the needs from the East side. Like

1359
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 1: Nia knew me. Like I wasn't no kid if you

1360
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: couldn't learn hip hop, Like how kids learning now? When

1361
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm listening to somebody a and on it and they're like, man,

1362
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: I ain't started listening to the hip hop I was

1363
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: in college. I'm like, what, man, I live this ship

1364
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 1: from the guy then rude or two to the show

1365
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: like like you like and you're telling me what's hot

1366
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: and what ain't. It's like, man, come on my knee.

1367
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: Like it's like when when you're looking at this ship

1368
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: is experiences like man, like Nigga don't even know man,

1369
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: the money and the fame man, that's that's that's the god. Man.

1370
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: That ship that ships gonna be so fast, it's gonna

1371
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: be like boom, that's gonna be so fast. The money

1372
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: in it that they traveling sooner or later, this ship

1373
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: is gonna become a job. Now do you love it?

1374
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: See that's the difference. See I had to do it

1375
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: for so long when it wasn't no got them money.

1376
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 1: And it's like, that's why I can be like I

1377
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 1: could sit back and needs to be like, yo, man,

1378
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: why you ain't rapping cousin. I took care of that.

1379
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: I did the right thing. I never signed the publishing

1380
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: deal in my life. So you got all your publisher

1381
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 1: round what what? Yes, Well, I don't never talk about

1382
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. They always show us the rapping

1383
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: bro because because because that's what they want you to believe.

1384
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: You see that, then what they don't? Thank God, damn mother.

1385
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: And you're gonna think that Vanilla Ice broke, but he not.

1386
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 1: He did a hundred and seas to million records. He

1387
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 1: still said almost three for million records a year. You

1388
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 1: know what, I know he got his own show. When

1389
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: you look at certain mix a lot and you're like,

1390
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: man with them needs rich Man. He he invested his

1391
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: money into take companies in the eighties. You call up there,

1392
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 1: then they gotta spread like at them, be a bond,

1393
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: bill Gates and all that kind of ship. Your ship

1394
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 1: just spread your ship way over there, way over there,

1395
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: like yeah, that was authentic, way over by the way.

1396
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 1: Don't get mad because you got and it's like, come on, money,

1397
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: like if you all won't need to be here to

1398
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: tell you that's right, I say, money, I've been through that.

1399
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: It's cool. The rules change, the rules change everything, but

1400
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 1: the game don't. Because at the end of the day,

1401
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 1: you still the vehicle. See understand, You're still gonna have

1402
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: to write it. You're still gonna have to go do

1403
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: the show. You're still gonna deal with the people. I

1404
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: know that ship and didn't dealing with that ship way

1405
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: a long. You at the end of the day, that

1406
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: ship ain't gonna change. The only thing gonna change is

1407
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: when if you got to hit, and when the time

1408
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: you don't gotta hit, and cat you live without a hit.

1409
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: Speaking to hit. I heard a story about Goodie Mob

1410
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: and Tupac and hit him up. I heard something I

1411
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: mean us in Tupac was was was was it was

1412
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: really something bro Like first time we went to the

1413
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: West Coast man, God damn, we got picked up by JT.

1414
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 1: The big effect. J T took us around that them

1415
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 1: then you know the Bay at that time, like our

1416
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,680
Speaker 1: cares was out, Pot was doing all that ship with

1417
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: Richie rich Like we was running in the park like

1418
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:33,560
Speaker 1: that the first time we got to see Like we

1419
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: didn't get to meet Easy, but he was on the show,

1420
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like we was we've seen

1421
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: him the first time we started meeting Q them bro.

1422
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 1: Like the whole thing when like when you go to

1423
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: the movie, like in the straight out of come to Ship,

1424
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 1: like the the the the ship they got there, cued them,

1425
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: got the fight with them. It was like we were

1426
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 1: there like that. She was right here in Atlanta. Like

1427
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 1: you gotta understand it. At that situation, you had the

1428
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: West Coast niggas beefing, you had Q and Lynch Mob beefing,

1429
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: you got Luke beefing with death Row and that ship

1430
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: was awesome. Late that was an awesome time in Atlanta

1431
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 1: because that's when you started seeing that was really the

1432
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 1: first time that Luke came in the building. That's the

1433
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: first time that the West Coast Niggas came to Atlanta.

1434
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: The first time that the HEAs was doing it was

1435
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: like New York was going through a change. Then it

1436
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: was like the neigas was knowing it, Like okay. At

1437
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: that time. That was the first time I met Marv Deep,

1438
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: the two little niggas that came my dude from my

1439
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: dude named Dave. He was from New York, and he

1440
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: was like, yo, money got I managed this group named

1441
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: Mob Deep. They're coming down to the gay damn to

1442
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: the what's the name of that ships? Yeah, yeah, you

1443
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: know what I mean. He was like because at that

1444
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 1: time they were like kids, like and and their first

1445
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: ship was like them on a T shirt. I had

1446
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: one of the first T shirts. It was like them

1447
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 1: and they was holding like these these like uh grim

1448
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: reaper type ships, and we was like, damn, that's kind

1449
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: of strange, like you're doing some different ship, you know

1450
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. But they first ship I heard it

1451
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: was like it was a real griming. So just imagine

1452
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: at the same time, like this, after we did players

1453
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: Ball and I look up on the TV and I

1454
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: see goddamn All Deep and they're doing shook ones and

1455
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: I'm like Damn, I mad, you know what I mean,

1456
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: like doing them times and doing and doing the same

1457
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 1: time that Atlanta was changing into something else, because you

1458
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: gotta understand that's one one night. Man. We're sitting there,

1459
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: we had the dungeon and got them l a come over.

1460
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: Then he was like, hey, Riek, I want you to

1461
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: meet this little boy man. And we was like we

1462
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 1: all kind of like we're sitting over the playing We're like,

1463
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 1: man and in. We turned around and he was standing

1464
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 1: there with us. So we were just kind of like tripping,

1465
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: like he was like, man, this is my little nigga

1466
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 1: usher man, Like I just got it e from Chattanooga.

1467
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna moving down here. Man, We're gonna get him

1468
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: in the studio, you know. So it was like damn,

1469
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: Like there's go a little shout, you know what I mean.

1470
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 1: So at the same time, we're finishing up, we're finishing

1471
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: up the first time, were finished with the first time,

1472
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: we're going in and still standards during this time. This

1473
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: after we come off tour, we got with with the

1474
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: Fujis and and then and then we got a little

1475
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: we got a little it's a difference because now we

1476
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: got experience. We know what we want to say. You

1477
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 1: can't just skip over, y'all. Was on to the food.

1478
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: You just kind of rolling over the big legeny big Okay,

1479
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: we gotta get some bombs in this. It was we

1480
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: gotta we need some sound effects, but sound effects on

1481
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: the list. We regular hell agil you just rolling over

1482
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 1: the legends? Yeah, like we we That was I'm gonna

1483
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 1: tell you all this Spence. Uh. He had to come

1484
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: back like ten times, right, this gonna be a trilogy. Yeah,

1485
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: like being on the to tell you all the truth.

1486
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: Being on the the road with the Fooji was real

1487
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: ad because it was the first time we've ever seen

1488
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 1: a girl and two dudes, you know what I mean.

1489
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: I look and and it was amazing because the whole

1490
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: first tour, I mean, my first tool was in my

1491
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: fing like Virginia Steamboat, like this old place that's on

1492
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: the water. I mean, it was the first time we

1493
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: we really we used to always see why cleft like

1494
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: he was going there and do the sound check, you

1495
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean, and we'd be like, okay, they

1496
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: go clear. We ain't really know him then. We were

1497
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: just looking because and you know, like I remember the

1498
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,879
Speaker 1: first night we performed. It's the first night of everybody

1499
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: to meet each other. We watched the rules were kind

1500
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, okay, we do a thing. And then

1501
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: they came out and I remember, man, why cle walked

1502
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,600
Speaker 1: on the stage. They started playing seal therapy with his

1503
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 1: mask on. Wow, So he playing sealth therapy with the

1504
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: mask on, and he started concerts and then all of

1505
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: a sudden, then they going to some other ship and

1506
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,599
Speaker 1: then here comes Lauren here. Like that was the first

1507
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: time we ever seen a brawl do that. Bro Like,

1508
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 1: it was like seeing it like that. That was the

1509
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 1: first time I ever seen it, seen it like that.

1510
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna tell you who was also on the

1511
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: tool us Bahama Dia and she was she was bad,

1512
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: she is. But Lauren had something that Bahammed Dea didn't have,

1513
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, the bank her. You didn't really want

1514
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:52,600
Speaker 1: to get that right she was. I mean, she was

1515
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: fined for back then. You know that. So sister that

1516
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: was sold, sister that was right there. That was wrong

1517
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,920
Speaker 1: Africa right there, baby, that was a fifteen you know

1518
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. But I mean I'm just saying like

1519
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, like the times that we

1520
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: spent on the road is what shaped us into still standing,

1521
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because we wasn't accepting a

1522
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: lot of places. Bro. Like, you know, the first time

1523
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: we ever performed in New York, I mean we got

1524
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 1: boom what we got boom, but it was it was

1525
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 1: okay though, because they boom Biggie two and he threw

1526
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: somebody down the steps, you know what I mean, he

1527
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: threw somebody down the steps. I remember that first the

1528
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,479
Speaker 1: first night we performed in New York, it was us,

1529
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 1: Biggie Smalls and Big Punt. Wow, that was god who

1530
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:57,560
Speaker 1: went first ship? We did. Oh y'all had kid, but

1531
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: but Big Pun him got treated just like us because

1532
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: you gotta look at that time they was looking, it

1533
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 1: was it was Big Punt, Big Punt. In fact, Joe,

1534
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: that was the first time that that the Puerto Ricans

1535
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: were saying, we're doing the Puerto Rican thing. So in

1536
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: New York that was kind of like, you know what

1537
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Yo, get your friend b and and and okay.

1538
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 1: So that same that same that same weekend, that's the

1539
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: first time that out Cares come and we dropped the album.

1540
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 1: They come back up there and we dropped another album.

1541
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 1: It was like, that's the first time we met meth

1542
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: and man, you know, that's the first time we met

1543
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: Wu Tang Claning. I remember watching them in the club

1544
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: in New York not liking them like m like they're

1545
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,560
Speaker 1: different there from long Alam ain't around here, you know

1546
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 1: what I mean. We got to see that same ship

1547
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 1: to them, like damn like so who always felt just

1548
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 1: like us, because when they first came out of New

1549
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 1: York stated Dowlers looked there like boys stop. But that's

1550
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,759
Speaker 1: the country, you know what I mean. So them feeling

1551
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 1: like that, and when you got to see when when

1552
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: that when when Dirty ran up there was like Nigga

1553
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: were for the kid. They felt just like us in

1554
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: New York. They felt like Mannles were shunning them because

1555
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 1: they weren't on the glitzy ship. They was on their

1556
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 1: ship like this iron ship. You know, we're on the

1557
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: woul Tain ship. We're on the Karate the movies and

1558
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 1: ship like that. So it was just different to watch

1559
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 1: somebody from up there going through the same ship at

1560
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 1: the time in the industry, because you had to be

1561
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 1: a certain way. You gotta understanding the West Coast and

1562
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: being inside that source that night. Man, they wasn't that well,

1563
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 1: they wasn't they weren't for Snoop then, but that performance

1564
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: was so dynamic that hey man, you had to respect it.

1565
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: So the different things than that happened throughout the careers.

1566
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 1: What what what What makes me be like, Okay, I've

1567
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 1: seen THEGS goddamn turned nothing and something. Now I'm seeing

1568
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: the industry be like, Okay, we can't control this ship. Now,

1569
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: let's just manufactured. Yeah. So were you in there the

1570
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 1: night at the social Wars and South got something to

1571
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: say that night? How deep with y'all? Because I know

1572
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: it looked crazy, We're just six deep? We were us

1573
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,559
Speaker 1: and remember shot what's up? That's home girls? They hip

1574
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: hop professional, and I know that it was like, we

1575
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 1: won't probably have to do this in two and three

1576
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: sessions because I got a lot to talk about. But

1577
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 1: I can't say man like ye for everybody out there.

1578
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: I want to just say that I love everybody. I

1579
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,400
Speaker 1: love all the artists. I love what they're doing, how

1580
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: they're doing it, you know what I mean. But it's

1581
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: like when you know the game and set up for

1582
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: them to even lose twice now when they ain't even

1583
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,600
Speaker 1: got nothing to look forward to, it's almost like heartbreaking

1584
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: because you know, man, you know the game. It's like, man,

1585
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: you get older, you gotta slow down. You can't. It

1586
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: ain't gonna come like it used to. So I'm just

1587
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: hoping that the people be able to find something that's

1588
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 1: gonna be able to take care of them after that's gone,

1589
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: because if you don't, if all you're gonna do is

1590
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: party music, then that's all you're gonna overhead. When you

1591
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 1: write something to change people in minds and change people

1592
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,519
Speaker 1: the way they think, then it take a little while

1593
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: to come up with that and rushing that. That's God's time,

1594
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,600
Speaker 1: that ain't yours. You know, Once you said something to

1595
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 1: change the world and you don't watch what you said

1596
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: coming too fluition, it's almost like, man, I'll wait on him. Man,

1597
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 1: if I never say nothing again, I did what I

1598
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 1: was supposed to do. Yeah, I'm telling you man, that's

1599
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: still standing. Adn't came out of my eighteenth birthday and

1600
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 1: your verse on beautiful skin, bro, when you talk you

1601
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 1: talk about your girl, man, I was like, okay, yeah,

1602
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:43,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that it made it cool

1603
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: to be like I got the baddest thing, and I

1604
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: hear you know what I'm saying, Like that's that's different.

1605
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: We feel bad about throwing trash on the throwing trash

1606
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: on the nigga, don't shut me up. You post something

1607
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: out for your homeboy, then you throw the bit right

1608
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: at them. Did you're cleaning up the hood? Hey? When

1609
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: I look, I saw a little I had a piece

1610
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 1: of paper my head. He was outside smoke about like

1611
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 1: if I thowt the trash on the street, give go

1612
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 1: kick by as so sick of seeing trash on the

1613
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 1: damn street. Many that was a really ship. Damn. But

1614
01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm here hey, because you're supold to kill man. You

1615
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,320
Speaker 1: he's not gonna survive. Man, You see what's happening. People

1616
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: ain't gonna so bad bro in this ship. It's just

1617
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 1: it's it's just making the story faster, and it's making

1618
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: the lifestyle faster. Ain't nobody's trying to really get there,

1619
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: really beat them no more. It's like they need is

1620
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: living the lives of the characters they make on Instagram.

1621
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: And so you know, I'm just like, hey, man, like

1622
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,680
Speaker 1: I really never leave it like this, Like when I'm

1623
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 1: doing it, I'm doing it. When I'm not, man, I'm chilling,

1624
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: that's you know what I mean. Like when you when

1625
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: you hate it all, seeing it all, being around it all, man,

1626
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: it ain't really nothing else to do but to love life.

1627
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:02,160
Speaker 1: We in here tonight, we're just talking. Man. Do you

1628
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: understand how I appreciate you? I am, but being here, brother,

1629
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. See this what this? This is the

1630
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 1: type of ship that's supposed to happen. You and him

1631
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 1: and I called my real I call some real people

1632
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 1: I know who really fun with hip hop. I called

1633
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 1: my nigger new face. I called my nigga Ronnie Jordan.

1634
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: I wish d C was here because he damn show

1635
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: went to maze. Wow. You know what I'm saying. They

1636
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 1: were saying they high schools on the songs back then, remember,

1637
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: were way back exactly see this this podcast right here.

1638
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 1: This is only for real dirty South hip hop heads.

1639
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,600
Speaker 1: Here's a lot. I don't I don't expect you to

1640
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 1: understand all of this because you don't. You too damn young,

1641
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: and you don't know how to listen. But the thing

1642
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:44,720
Speaker 1: is they need to notice because all the ship now

1643
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 1: came from this. Like if you love hip hop, this

1644
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 1: is like hip hop one oh three. This is like

1645
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: you need this class to graduate. You got to have

1646
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 1: this back. You gotta have your crazy, gotta take this

1647
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 1: big gil philosophy class and you got to get you

1648
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 1: can't we not let get out there. I mean, you

1649
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 1: can't graduate without this. This this curriculum, this curriculum. This

1650
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: is a it's a statement, mad day the thing. We

1651
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: can't really change it. So you know, it's not up

1652
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: to us. This podcast is for niggas who know how

1653
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 1: to pay attention. It's not for them. Pill Papa quick,

1654
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 1: touching ship, Quit touching ship right quick? Hey man, you

1655
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 1: have to do the fantastic job of Wilde. Gotta thank you.

1656
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 1: Hey man, This ship is so bro. This is so funny. Man,

1657
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 1: deren killing just hilarious. Get it in, she gets it

1658
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: in in. You know one thing, but I can't say

1659
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 1: about the new cast member. They're fearless. Yeah. Man, the

1660
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 1: Spit the Water is my favorite ship. I like it.

1661
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. You know what's hard

1662
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 1: to playing that game and you have to keep going.

1663
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 1: I have to keep saying to Nick, it's like I

1664
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: know this Nick and that it's like what can I

1665
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 1: get him with today? Right? You got so much ship

1666
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 1: on them? You got there all right? Man? Okay, we

1667
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 1: got the PMC we got the pm C story coming

1668
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 1: up right now. It's a real questions. Man, I didn't

1669
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,679
Speaker 1: even get into one monkey. Don't Stop No Show album

1670
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:18,760
Speaker 1: like we talk mutan Mad Frame album was twenty light

1671
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 1: years ahead of his Tank y'all. The song could could

1672
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 1: you do me a favor? Could y'all perform old Man?

1673
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: When y'all do the A T L Fest? Because I

1674
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 1: don't know if y'all even do the album super Friend

1675
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: they had they had the spot with C posted me.

1676
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 1: It was a real monkey on the album cover. This

1677
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 1: is how you say, Don't Stop No Show. It was

1678
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: like home, but it's like a love thing that we felt.

1679
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: It was still a love I'm gonna tell you. I'm

1680
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 1: gonna tell y'all what what the whole thing? Like, I mean,

1681
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: I can't even really at the end of the day,

1682
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: like I can tell you all the honest, true feeling

1683
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 1: about that album. The idea to do that album and

1684
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: the name of that album was already in effect, you

1685
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like people never thought about this

1686
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: like we back then. You couldn't explain what you was doing. Okay,

1687
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 1: y'all gotta look at all of a sudden, we here,

1688
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,759
Speaker 1: you got a lot you put out to successful albums,

1689
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 1: you put out your third album, World Party. It's so

1690
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 1: eight eight hundred thousand records. I know. It's like okay,

1691
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: so that's that that's happening, right, Okay. Then all of

1692
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, boom, you get a call the face over it.

1693
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: Every everything and every way that we had built that

1694
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:48,439
Speaker 1: our careers and how we made our money changed overnight.

1695
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 1: People never had People never sit down and said, well, damn,

1696
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: what happened to the face? And need never said we

1697
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 1: damn what happened to you know? The face? It's like

1698
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 1: what happened? It was just like one night we put

1699
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 1: a rigor out, we go, we go, damn their platinum

1700
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 1: the first two months, then we get a call and

1701
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 1: the face ain't there no more? Man? Do you know

1702
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 1: what kind of mind frame? What what that did to people?

1703
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:25,759
Speaker 1: Like to everybody at the time, So it was like shit, okay,

1704
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: what do we do? What do we do? Crazy? That's

1705
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 1: the first time that we had to think about, like, okay,

1706
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 1: what we do next? Money? You're like low, didn't know

1707
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 1: what the funk Like. The lay gave me a load

1708
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:45,240
Speaker 1: of get Lay gave me a load of deal. So

1709
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: I was signed the Aras to lower sign the Aras Toon.

1710
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 1: The only person that went to really New York with

1711
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 1: l A at the time was Pink because at that

1712
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: time New York wasn't accepting for l A. You know

1713
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. That was that was man that was

1714
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: jade him town that will puff them town, you know

1715
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: what I mean. So he had to go to he

1716
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:07,439
Speaker 1: if you think about it, he was the first one

1717
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 1: that started changing the perception of black music. He the

1718
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 1: one went to Ariston was like, okay, paint my star right.

1719
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,960
Speaker 1: So then it was like okay, me and low everybody

1720
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:21,719
Speaker 1: want to get to be a certain way, Like I'm like, okay,

1721
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 1: now instead of it being l A that that we

1722
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 1: knew now, l is that another perlass were there. It's

1723
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 1: about bigger records, bigger you know, working with for Real's

1724
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: working with the you know, all the producers that was

1725
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 1: doing it in New York, you know what I mean.

1726
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: It was like a change for us. It was like, okay,

1727
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 1: you still gotta look after our third Alm. That was

1728
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 1: the first album that we really didn't do what organized

1729
01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 1: we did. Some were organized, but that's the first album

1730
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: that we got tracks from Kanye Wes like like mugs,

1731
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we was kind of

1732
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 1: stretching out, but we're trying to stretch out in our

1733
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: own way. It was like shit, okay, the face gone,

1734
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:07,760
Speaker 1: what do we do? I knew that it was gonna

1735
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:12,320
Speaker 1: if I stayed at the Alster bro Like I knew

1736
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 1: that it with good Hma would never put out the

1737
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 1: album again because I knew that it was about to

1738
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: be a competition thing and not be about good humm,

1739
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And my thing was Ship.

1740
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't care, it's got to come while we can't

1741
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 1: come while Wow, all of a sudden, there's like, oh,

1742
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm only gonna offer the deal to YouTube the cool

1743
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 1: jowing like Ship. What about them though, like you know

1744
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like so at that time, I'm talking,

1745
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,559
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like Shanty had always been

1746
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: been been being very talented, and he always got them

1747
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: here other than different opportunities to make money outside the group,

1748
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,760
Speaker 1: and not even if that was the issue, but our

1749
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: issue was we built that group on going out and

1750
01:41:55,479 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: doing shows. So now it's like, okay, we we gotta

1751
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 1: go over to Japan and the record take off. It

1752
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: was like shit, Okay. The first tour came in was

1753
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,719
Speaker 1: in Japan, so it was like, shit, okay, we gotta

1754
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 1: go and do Japan. We winning the Japan Joe shot

1755
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 1: shot he didn't go because he was working on the

1756
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 1: first album, Perfect Iffections. So the whole time and anybody

1757
01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 1: who ever knew us knew that Coojo was the one

1758
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: to get them. Came up with certain ship. And if

1759
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:32,560
Speaker 1: you think about it, like if if Shotton there was it,

1760
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,040
Speaker 1: if Shota was on that album and that was a

1761
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 1: complete good in move album, one Monkey Don't Stop No

1762
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: Show would have been the perfect title. It was something

1763
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 1: that Joe Grandmama used to say, she and baby one

1764
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 1: money don't stop no show. Now she one person, don't show.

1765
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 1: You still gotta get the money. That was just something

1766
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 1: he said, you know what I mean. So people just

1767
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 1: took it there because that's when the drama ship started,

1768
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, That's when the that's when

1769
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 1: you learned it. Oh Man needs really to see you

1770
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: apart and together, because that's when everybody get the work.

1771
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: They hustle. I mean, you strong you together, but when

1772
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: you're apart, it's like this nigga he'll wash it though.

1773
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: This nigga he'll wash the money. This nigga, watch the

1774
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 1: kNs this, He'll watch the this. He was like every

1775
01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: corner restrained. But then when needs get the guy them

1776
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 1: breaking off and the folk here and you folk got

1777
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: these folks over here, and it's like, damn, like you

1778
01:43:28,560 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: gotta see now. And at the same time, the face

1779
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,120
Speaker 1: didn't change, just like the whole town. Everybody out here

1780
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:39,599
Speaker 1: usher tlse everybody but she it ain't. Nobody was exempt.

1781
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: So that's the other part that people never even took

1782
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 1: into a corner corner like damn, what happened in the phase? Okay,

1783
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 1: what happened and it was just about okay, well y'all, ricketed, Okay,

1784
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 1: now now I gotta deal with damn like what I'm

1785
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:01,840
Speaker 1: supposed to do going hand in New York and right,

1786
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'm just saying, real, nig

1787
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 1: At the time, I'm just like what I was going

1788
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 1: to go? Them go because everybody up, They're like, I'm

1789
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:14,719
Speaker 1: going to go hang. That's exactly how they party ain't

1790
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:19,200
Speaker 1: doing that. They got to look at the time, we

1791
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,560
Speaker 1: ain't already build us with us we who we is.

1792
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 1: And then then you want me to go up and

1793
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 1: got damn change the whole foundation. That's when that came

1794
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: back home and I was like, man, like, okay, I

1795
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:34,640
Speaker 1: gotta go to Cotch. So I go to I go

1796
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 1: to Cotch. I'm like, you know, I go to Cotch.

1797
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, fucking man, you know them there, and they

1798
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 1: gave me a major deal at the time, but I

1799
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,639
Speaker 1: was like, fuck it. I split it up. Get Joe, Joe,

1800
01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 1: Joe a deal, the lumber Jackson deal, na solo deals,

1801
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 1: myself a solo dear fucking you know what I mean,

1802
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 1: people together, you know what I mean. I wasn't thinking

1803
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:57,479
Speaker 1: about please and ease. And he just like, look like,

1804
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I gotta keeping, you know what I mean.

1805
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, we come out first thing you

1806
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: Joe like, man, my mother don't stop. No show. Perfect

1807
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 1: for me. I never even thought about that at the

1808
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 1: time because at the time I'm already doing my solo

1809
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,560
Speaker 1: al main Trippment doing his thing. I'm just like, I

1810
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: ain't even thinking about it, Like I'm thinking about it

1811
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 1: on some good mom ship Joe ship, and I'm like

1812
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:25,560
Speaker 1: my need and long you know what I mean, perfectly,

1813
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when when all the

1814
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 1: ship that came behind it. You still gotta remember that

1815
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: it was never meant to be nothing delicious. It was

1816
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 1: just us being goody more. It's just niggas took it

1817
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: there and it was just like you gotta remember at

1818
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 1: that time, you ain't had no Twitter to go on

1819
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 1: that saying. I mean that y'all need a tripping and

1820
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 1: you had to wait, you get on BT or something,

1821
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,799
Speaker 1: go to go do. So she didn't bet. You couldn't

1822
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 1: tell that ship and it wasn't no none of the

1823
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: magazines was down here. So he's just took it in

1824
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: ram Oh man, that seas it's like my kneel, like

1825
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do? We can't do nothing? Continue to eat,

1826
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 1: hey man, that's how old man gets better older. I

1827
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,799
Speaker 1: get the better that song gets, old man. Yeah, because

1828
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 1: it was real, brother, it was like it was real.

1829
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 1: If C was on the air and the album was

1830
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 1: a good mom that's it, you know. I mean, they

1831
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: took it like that because that that was I didn't

1832
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,800
Speaker 1: do the record anyway. He just wasn't in the pictures. Now,

1833
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: if he was in the pictures and that money was

1834
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: seeing ship, you know what I mean. But but being

1835
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: able to vent defendish it at the time, it's like, man,

1836
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,640
Speaker 1: they's gotta do that, and you gotta do this, you

1837
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I did stepping out, Man,

1838
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:46,080
Speaker 1: I started doing shows and solo show, doing bat. I

1839
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 1: did all that ship by myself, But it was like

1840
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 1: stepping out was as a month. Yeah, but I'm looking

1841
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 1: at him like they see if I gate this same

1842
01:46:53,479 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 1: regular airster, then it's like I ain't I always taking it?

1843
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 1: Like man, look, I don't watch motherfucker's make records into

1844
01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 1: his so ain't tripping right, Like, man, come on any

1845
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,280
Speaker 1: Like I've seen ship. There was garbage with the babe

1846
01:47:14,320 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 1: bro the ship, you know what I mean. And that's

1847
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: and that's why you gotta always know that that systematic.

1848
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,479
Speaker 1: As soon as you tell the right person know she

1849
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:30,679
Speaker 1: started going another type way, right m hm. That's for everybody.

1850
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:33,920
Speaker 1: As soon as you tear the right motherfucker no ship

1851
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,600
Speaker 1: she started changing. Oh he let me come on and

1852
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 1: cube ain't change. He just picked somebody out one day.

1853
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 1: She ain't cute. No, That's how the game go So

1854
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: that's why you did them records on on catch. We

1855
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,679
Speaker 1: did the records and we we were we was already talking.

1856
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:57,720
Speaker 1: People didn't even know we were still talking to me

1857
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 1: and see a little talking the old time. We were

1858
01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 1: trip it right, But then it was like, okay, he

1859
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: did his thing. Then it was like he was like,

1860
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 1: come on, bro, we're gonna go head and got them

1861
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:10,479
Speaker 1: not the goody mob About so we got them star recording.

1862
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: We started recording the good am About so y'all. Y'all

1863
01:48:13,120 --> 01:48:15,600
Speaker 1: would have got the ship ten years earlier. But it

1864
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:17,559
Speaker 1: was like ship at the time, but are we sitting

1865
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 1: there recording the album ship Dang you mouth just hit

1866
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,680
Speaker 1: shoton was like shit, man, he goes we goddamn song man,

1867
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 1: just see what you could do. The first song was

1868
01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:31,320
Speaker 1: crazy Wow. The Nika just walked into the studio. We're like, man,

1869
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:34,600
Speaker 1: ship man, don't goddamn got some ship up him? And

1870
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 1: he got damn did crazy one tape? What get the

1871
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 1: funk out of here? That was exclusive bomb dropped the

1872
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 1: bombs right there, put the animation right there. That's real life, man.

1873
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: He did that ship one tape and send it back.

1874
01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:53,679
Speaker 1: We was about like like two three songs deep into

1875
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: the new Goodie mom you know what I mean. And

1876
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 1: when he woke up that morning, he said Gil danger

1877
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: Mania called me said he took that song to the

1878
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,360
Speaker 1: radio and played that ship on the radio. Man, I

1879
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 1: gotta go to London. What they ain't CEC local fight, remember,

1880
01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 1: I mean it was always like that, but just like again,

1881
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 1: once you put all these people into the middle and

1882
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 1: then you don't really get them sit down and start

1883
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: talking like you used to money like that. That's the game, bro.

1884
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 1: Like when when I think about it, when I think

1885
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 1: about the game for real, I tell every artist I

1886
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,800
Speaker 1: said in there, watch now, you're gonna have way more

1887
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: fun going up this letter than coming down. And really

1888
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 1: it ain't coming down. It's just when you finally realized

1889
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,600
Speaker 1: one day, like, man, you know what, I really have

1890
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:54,400
Speaker 1: my niggas banging and how we used to kick it

1891
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:57,240
Speaker 1: instead of all this old goddamn hole ship. You know,

1892
01:49:57,760 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 1: because once the hole ship start and a lot of

1893
01:50:00,040 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 1: time they don't beat niggas. Man, just beat niggers and

1894
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 1: just be high fame change people, man, Like you don't

1895
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: know how people are gonna act. Man Like I got

1896
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: some needs that kill their own people, man, tie them up, man,

1897
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 1: beat them the depth track their own family going. They

1898
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 1: come home from prison. Man, they they just all that

1899
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 1: on TV and way and way of time the up man.

1900
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 1: Then you get the call like win for real, your

1901
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,759
Speaker 1: own family, did that beat the niggas that you got money.

1902
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 1: It's like that's the ship. So when you see like

1903
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 1: when you see the nigga mix in the streets and

1904
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 1: this goddamn just this this new this new ship that's

1905
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 1: ind and the ship's like, man, like you're like, y'a

1906
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,839
Speaker 1: awesome many never seen so many niggas in that theirselves

1907
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:47,600
Speaker 1: in my life, Like yeah, they they don't act like

1908
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 1: this ship is legal, like like I mean, it don't

1909
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: matter what you do. It's like if you got them

1910
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 1: showing there, you've got two or three packs here too,

1911
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: dizzy drink man, it's like, man, right in here, hey

1912
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 1: addressed broap of that. They ain't even gotta do that

1913
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 1: no more. They're your copy this and uses this evidence. Right,

1914
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:15,040
Speaker 1: that's the difference, bro, Like that's the ship that I

1915
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 1: just be sitting back like okay Instagram with off I thought, man,

1916
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 1: like the PMC story, Man the hardest ship, man, Man,

1917
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 1: my dude, man, he got them like call me one night,

1918
01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 1: he said, Man, cute, but you're not you know. And

1919
01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 1: it was a trip because it was like two stories

1920
01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:44,600
Speaker 1: that they did. They really just always stand out to me.

1921
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 1: It was just like, man, I'm getting that. I want

1922
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 1: you to fly to Houston. You're gonna see me and

1923
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 1: they can pick me up. Man. We went and we

1924
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 1: went shopping all day. Man. Man spent like two feet

1925
01:51:55,720 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: down man, damn ship and they went about the gay

1926
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,080
Speaker 1: and like a thousand and jury went about a brand

1927
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,599
Speaker 1: new grade being living man with the red goods. You're

1928
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 1: going out, man, I was like the smashed up the

1929
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: grade wanting bout me a wed like like man, this

1930
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,479
Speaker 1: ship was like and it was like, you gotta remember

1931
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: that time in Houston with your going through it, and

1932
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 1: I remember that night He's like, yeah, we're going to

1933
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 1: the studio, bro, and I that was the night he

1934
01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 1: first went in the studio over scar Face since he's

1935
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: been home and meet him and scarf Face sit up

1936
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 1: all night for a time. Pen was around it looking

1937
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:34,919
Speaker 1: and looking at the equipment. Moneyga just it was just amazing,

1938
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 1: just him looking at looking at Protols and being like,

1939
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, what the fuck is this ship? Like what

1940
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:45,479
Speaker 1: that ship is Like, I'm like, nigga, Pen, that's that

1941
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 1: Protol Now that's how we do. He was like, my nigga,

1942
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:54,640
Speaker 1: all my ship, don't ain't like like he like just

1943
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 1: to watch somebody like hisself come home and be like

1944
01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 1: money like everybody beefing man like everybody ain't nobody getting

1945
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 1: money in Houston no more. Man like I gotta make it.

1946
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: Everybody get together, and to watch them put that ship

1947
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: together with little Ja and make all them come out

1948
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,840
Speaker 1: there to that ritch man and take that picture. Man,

1949
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:18,720
Speaker 1: that was all on pimp. That was all on Pimp Bro.

1950
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 1: To see that kind of to see a dude move

1951
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 1: a city full of nega that we're making money and

1952
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 1: big money at the time on they like, Bro, that's

1953
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:33,040
Speaker 1: that's real power. Really stop what they were doing. That's

1954
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 1: real power, you know. And I really don't think people

1955
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: know what their power is until they see it in

1956
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 1: a in a in a negative light, you know what

1957
01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Like what you do on the internet. Man,

1958
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:49,840
Speaker 1: I can't say this man, if we don't if we

1959
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 1: don't learn how to control, I said, we can't get

1960
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 1: mad if we put ourselves into bundange. It's like we

1961
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,720
Speaker 1: can't get mad. And we got there. We're gonna show

1962
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 1: the folk your thing and it there ain't nothing, no secret.

1963
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: Then you can't call another nigga junkie. If you got

1964
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 1: them suing with some every day too. M hmm, you

1965
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,640
Speaker 1: can't do that. You can't do that money. He's like,

1966
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 1: you can't do that. He's like he could be got

1967
01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:21,600
Speaker 1: then it's just like this you you you can't just

1968
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 1: be so health conscious that you ain't living life like

1969
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 1: like it's cool, but you gotta got them one day

1970
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 1: just say hey man, you want to live a folks

1971
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, Like it's like when

1972
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 1: you just see when you got them, look like it's

1973
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 1: that everything be like so cultural. You're like you go

1974
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, damn, but niguld be got there

1975
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 1: going to the gym every day, I go, nigga, nigga,

1976
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 1: my head got damn the gym and my feet like

1977
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 1: shoes over. That'd be like damn, the gotta got them

1978
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,480
Speaker 1: keep up even in the chym and they were like damn.

1979
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:59,000
Speaker 1: Like ship like it's just what needed to be on it.

1980
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 1: I'd just be like, Okay, it ain't cool to go

1981
01:55:02,840 --> 01:55:05,720
Speaker 1: to school no more. It ain't cool to be smart

1982
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:09,960
Speaker 1: no more. Most kids of this generation feel like, yo, dad,

1983
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 1: we didn't learned like I can listen to my kids

1984
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,080
Speaker 1: because I know that the juniory. They'd be like, yo, Papa, like,

1985
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 1: we didn't learned how to get paid off the computer.

1986
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's gangster like, you have learned how

1987
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 1: to get paid off the computer. But one thing about

1988
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 1: it is they cut their motherfucker out. What you're gonna

1989
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 1: do then? And and the only thing and the reason

1990
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: why I say that is because once you got them

1991
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,160
Speaker 1: get on the plane and go to countries like Serbia

1992
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 1: and places like that where they ain't got in in it,

1993
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, I see how this feels. I

1994
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 1: see how this got there with fun the everage motherfucker up.

1995
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 1: And if they just hit that switch in the middle

1996
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 1: of the day in the United States, Oh, nigga's gonna

1997
01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:54,600
Speaker 1: go out there. Hey why and it's gonna happen soon

1998
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:58,960
Speaker 1: or like information control, it's gonna happen soon or later,

1999
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 1: because hell if the chips going into the cup. Remember

2000
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 1: that once we start something as a company, it's the

2001
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:11,960
Speaker 1: idea of it working once it's cool. It's just like

2002
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: at a time, but I remember the time, well my

2003
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 1: moment and were like, what the fund is a chick

2004
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 1: debbit club? By stop you better getting my chick book like, bro,

2005
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:27,160
Speaker 1: people like you just gotta remember like them kind of parents.

2006
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 1: They were like, oh school, Like I'm gonna write my

2007
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 1: ship out. I know she this add up to here

2008
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: some track here, Like, man, it's still people that don't

2009
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 1: funk with that ship because right now you can have

2010
01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 1: a five hundred thound others and then then folkter that

2011
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 1: ship don't work, that ship don't work. That's real. Do

2012
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:50,160
Speaker 1: you do y'all think about that, like that ship don't work.

2013
01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 1: So when you came up with another type mad frame,

2014
01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to got them get into the

2015
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 1: man I'm made the white part all day. Man, I

2016
01:57:02,240 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 1: don't got them hanging out. Man, everybody under twenty five,

2017
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 1: you'd be like, he's going to club. Now you're just

2018
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: seeing like the whole night. It's a different it's a

2019
01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 1: different it's a different world. And I only used them

2020
01:57:28,480 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: kind of got damn things just to let me know

2021
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:35,600
Speaker 1: how much i'd be paying attention, like, man, like what's really?

2022
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 1: What's fake? Now? Like you know, like when I sit

2023
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 1: down with that county he say, Man, I say, man,

2024
01:57:46,280 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: what's for me? And streams? You know, I'm just seeing

2025
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 1: on the end of their knicks. Got damn celebrating for

2026
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 1: me and five me and stream and didn't do it.

2027
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:56,120
Speaker 1: Just look up to me saying, they gipp you that's

2028
01:57:56,120 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 1: something like forty hundred dollars right and you know what,

2029
01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there like, okay, we celebrate. Why don't

2030
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 1: we celebrating now? Now we said, I'm looking at all

2031
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: the new the I'm like, damn, they're half you need

2032
01:58:10,680 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 1: to celebrating streams? What is that? Like? What the fun is?

2033
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 1: What's the what's I sold that in me and stream?

2034
01:58:17,560 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 1: He was okay, okay, so right now this tells me

2035
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 1: that you're not even gonna get a check unless you

2036
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 1: do something over a billion. Hey man, the game you

2037
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 1: got damn twist m So so you gotta look at that, man,

2038
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 1: you gotta look at that and say, okay, am I

2039
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 1: being am I being an asshole to the tightenn because

2040
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 1: because we all y'all gotta do with that. Go back

2041
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 1: and look at old interviews on Muhammad Ali May never

2042
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:58,720
Speaker 1: played the game, man, how about money? Never played? He

2043
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna play the game until the truth.

2044
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 1: And it's like you live longer like that, because when

2045
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:06,960
Speaker 1: you have already had the joys of having a number

2046
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 1: one record me and number one platinum record, gold record.

2047
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 1: It ain't not the other to do. But tell you

2048
01:59:15,200 --> 01:59:18,040
Speaker 1: for the truth, Hey man, this ship real, but this

2049
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:20,200
Speaker 1: gout Damn. If you're gonna make money out of it,

2050
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to hustle it. This ship, You're gonna

2051
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:24,800
Speaker 1: have to say some real ship because hey man, after

2052
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 1: they got that, you can't stay the party man forever.

2053
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:32,560
Speaker 1: So you know when I look at artists like, okay,

2054
01:59:32,640 --> 01:59:38,680
Speaker 1: tell me why Bob Marley go platinum area and that's real?

2055
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:43,520
Speaker 1: That's your timeless Oh man, why the Beatles go flat

2056
01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:50,120
Speaker 1: though there? Yeah, well my well NJ gonna always say

2057
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:56,360
Speaker 1: your volks ship real volks. Hey vote, you get your

2058
01:59:56,480 --> 01:59:58,240
Speaker 1: name meet one, but your life with the rest of

2059
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 1: the man, you can just name me one Hammel. It's

2060
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 1: only one body, Brown baby, Chris Brown getting close, but

2061
02:00:08,200 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 1: got damn still one body. Yeah. So I'm I just

2062
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:17,360
Speaker 1: it's like the principle of me is just different than

2063
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:19,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And ain't gonna always come off

2064
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 1: strange to a motherfucker who corporate because I'm always be like, man,

2065
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 1: I think everybody should go, everybody should eat, and they're

2066
02:00:27,200 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 1: gonna be like, man, funk everybody, and I'm gonna workout

2067
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 1: we I work, I work with you, and just imagine

2068
02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 1: just always being that kid that is like, man, I

2069
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:39,280
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. Sooner or later, you've become

2070
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:43,000
Speaker 1: goddamn more trouble than goddamn somebody they want to help

2071
02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 1: become more powerful because in your mind you already going

2072
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 1: into it like I'm not gonna let mother control be

2073
02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:57,920
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna sell my soul. It's a difference

2074
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 1: when you got more the mother is there. Really you

2075
02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:04,080
Speaker 1: gotta look at some of the artists, man, like they

2076
02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 1: really go there. They don't have anything, so the industry

2077
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:09,560
Speaker 1: become their real family. So what they do for the

2078
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 1: industry and things that they do for it's just different.

2079
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:17,360
Speaker 1: It's different levels of this ship. It's what you want

2080
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 1: out of it though, like if you gotta steal, look,

2081
02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:28,560
Speaker 1: you still write your best material when you're wrong. So

2082
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:31,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like I told you

2083
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 1: all before, like if if big it live, your pocket live,

2084
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:39,400
Speaker 1: if I even pump, if certain people would have felt like, oh,

2085
02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:43,240
Speaker 1: y'all need is corning there, even if Bob Marley would

2086
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:45,280
Speaker 1: have stayed the way it needs is like y'all would

2087
02:01:45,320 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 1: have got them distant people when all the dials gave

2088
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:52,800
Speaker 1: you the truth, and it just seemed like now people

2089
02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 1: would rather accept a falster than the truth, because the

2090
02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 1: truth is like almost like it's just like water. You

2091
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 1: can't change it. I don't care what for him you

2092
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:08,760
Speaker 1: do the water. You can't change water. Water gonna be water.

2093
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 1: And just imagine being that being that way as an artist, naturally,

2094
02:02:15,240 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do when motherfucker's changed around you,

2095
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:22,640
Speaker 1: but just stay you so that the advice for young

2096
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:27,560
Speaker 1: artists stay you. I say that's the advice for artists

2097
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:30,760
Speaker 1: that if he feels like staying around for if he

2098
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 1: feels like staying around for a career. It's like, if

2099
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 1: you just want this, if you just want this for

2100
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:39,200
Speaker 1: the good time to hose and all that kind of ship,

2101
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 1: ship that's gonna happen. You gotta hear record. You got

2102
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:43,080
Speaker 1: a big enough rig you're gonna be able to help

2103
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:46,240
Speaker 1: all that. But when you love this, when it's just

2104
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:48,880
Speaker 1: about you becoming a fan again and say damn. Like

2105
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:52,800
Speaker 1: like me personally, I could say, damn, man, I like

2106
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 1: what future do? I like, what do you need to do?

2107
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:57,360
Speaker 1: I meant a little at them a little. It was

2108
02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:59,440
Speaker 1: very littally cool to be, you know what I mean.

2109
02:02:59,840 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 1: We you know, like I'm gonna see it. I remember

2110
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:03,320
Speaker 1: how just look at me when I first came in.

2111
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, either weird like that, you know it just

2112
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 1: you made great music, though one' you you gotta hit

2113
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 1: regular they can't touch. When you see ship like what's

2114
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:15,920
Speaker 1: happening for Gucci, You're like, like that ship happened for

2115
02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 1: Goode because you know, if you know Google, Google was

2116
02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:21,560
Speaker 1: a real stunt down whatever, get down, so to see

2117
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 1: goods come out and not getting no trouble. And he

2118
02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 1: lived and he's doing what he's doing. He got a

2119
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 1: foot action commercial I saw the other day. It's just

2120
02:03:29,480 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 1: that's the kind of ship I'd like to see when

2121
02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:34,240
Speaker 1: I know people and and went through it all bro

2122
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 1: like for this ship, you know what I mean, you

2123
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:38,480
Speaker 1: can get out here. You could be that artist like

2124
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:44,800
Speaker 1: Park Money like pop was crazy. Bro Like pop was

2125
02:03:44,880 --> 02:03:46,840
Speaker 1: one of the most exciting things you ever want to

2126
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:48,680
Speaker 1: be around. I was there when he got finished with

2127
02:03:48,760 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 1: hit him up like you was right in the room.

2128
02:03:50,560 --> 02:03:53,560
Speaker 1: But he was there when he when he first recorded,

2129
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:55,360
Speaker 1: and when we walked in the room. It was him

2130
02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:58,160
Speaker 1: and Lisa left left. I listening to it and he

2131
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:00,200
Speaker 1: was like, yep, man, I want you all to hear um.

2132
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm like what he was like, Man, don't trip man,

2133
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:07,280
Speaker 1: I played and he played hit him up. Man, I

2134
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:09,680
Speaker 1: just remember when this ship went off out you like, Man,

2135
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:11,680
Speaker 1: this ship is gonna be trouble. Man. This is just

2136
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:13,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because I knew Man. I

2137
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:15,880
Speaker 1: was like, man, you're telling me that man, white Man,

2138
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:21,840
Speaker 1: You're awesome brothers, Like, you know, I thought everything was

2139
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:23,840
Speaker 1: cool with that point. I was like, boy, that guy

2140
02:04:23,920 --> 02:04:30,240
Speaker 1: there below, I knew that that ship was gonna cause trouble.

2141
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 1: But the impact and what he felt like being with him, bro,

2142
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 1: how he felt like, Man, Gibby, and you gotta understand, bro,

2143
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 1: I knew everybody. I knew Jimmy Henchman, you know what

2144
02:04:40,920 --> 02:04:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean. I knew everybody in the room. So it's like,

2145
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:47,040
Speaker 1: but then you like this man he went to jail.

2146
02:04:47,120 --> 02:04:49,520
Speaker 1: He like, men, you know how I feel. It's like

2147
02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:51,680
Speaker 1: you know when I kned just feel a certain ways,

2148
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 1: like ain't know what I'm telling It's like that's how

2149
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:59,080
Speaker 1: he feel. He said, this is what I'm doing and

2150
02:04:59,480 --> 02:05:04,200
Speaker 1: just to see what that record did, and then to

2151
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:09,240
Speaker 1: be with him before the record dropped to be with

2152
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 1: him the week the weekend of that that the the

2153
02:05:14,360 --> 02:05:18,200
Speaker 1: Soul Train Awards. Like when we gave what we we gave,

2154
02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:21,080
Speaker 1: I thinking with Jake, then somebody a ward, we come back,

2155
02:05:21,160 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 1: stayed pot coming their motherfucker with a hunting motherfuckers with him,

2156
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:27,640
Speaker 1: they got damn bigger. He just went off with him

2157
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:30,000
Speaker 1: in faith. So he's standing right here. We right here,

2158
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:32,600
Speaker 1: Pop walk what's good? Did we turned around? That's the

2159
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 1: picture Nen see when they see us and Park standing

2160
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:37,720
Speaker 1: right and he's looking right and big. He like this

2161
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 1: like you see the picture with him and shoot because

2162
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:47,520
Speaker 1: she extending there like this and you look low kind

2163
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 1: of looking man because low like man because they made

2164
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:53,560
Speaker 1: low changes cool so more low really And I'm standing

2165
02:05:53,600 --> 02:05:57,360
Speaker 1: to the side like behind shoes. So when when Pop

2166
02:05:57,440 --> 02:06:00,280
Speaker 1: walk up, he like giving everybody hoods and and having

2167
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:02,680
Speaker 1: it and big like standing right there like with the

2168
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 1: fo I just kind of like by the door. So

2169
02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:08,480
Speaker 1: when he looked he see be He's like, yeah, I'm

2170
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:10,200
Speaker 1: only you know what I mean. So it was like

2171
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:12,880
Speaker 1: it was just funny to see him kind of like

2172
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:17,600
Speaker 1: it action and not giving the funk about the police.

2173
02:06:17,680 --> 02:06:21,560
Speaker 1: But you seeing in his head that and seeing him

2174
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:27,120
Speaker 1: in person and knowing that he truly believed that they

2175
02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:30,280
Speaker 1: did that to him, that's the part Like when you

2176
02:06:30,360 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: saw him, he was like, he truly believed y'all did

2177
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:36,760
Speaker 1: that ship. So it's almost like anybody saying something, it

2178
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:39,320
Speaker 1: don't matter who you is, they don't they ride, you

2179
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:41,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So just to know also that

2180
02:06:46,200 --> 02:06:51,600
Speaker 1: where he was gonna end up, he already knew where

2181
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: it was gonna end up, you know what I mean.

2182
02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:56,960
Speaker 1: He already knew that it was gonna happen. He just

2183
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:59,040
Speaker 1: didn't know how. He was trying to get out of

2184
02:06:59,080 --> 02:07:00,960
Speaker 1: the ship. He was trying to get back. He was

2185
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:02,800
Speaker 1: trying to get out of the West Coast, you know

2186
02:07:02,840 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. I just know at that time having

2187
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:07,720
Speaker 1: them conversation with him, he was like, Yo, man, moved

2188
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:12,000
Speaker 1: my mama to to Atlanta. I think you know what

2189
02:07:12,000 --> 02:07:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I want to I'm gonna finish

2190
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 1: this death row Schill moved to Atlanta, and that was

2191
02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:18,720
Speaker 1: supposed to be his album where he put on the

2192
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:21,080
Speaker 1: slave ship where he had to that was like one

2193
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 1: of the last mixtape they dropped. But that was supposed

2194
02:07:23,400 --> 02:07:25,880
Speaker 1: to be his album for him leaving l A and

2195
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:29,320
Speaker 1: moving to Atlanta with his mom, you know what I mean.

2196
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 1: So it's like that he wanted to man like the

2197
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 1: dude called us from jail before he got home. He

2198
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:43,240
Speaker 1: called me from jail like he just like it was

2199
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:45,600
Speaker 1: just the different instances to with Park that I was.

2200
02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:48,360
Speaker 1: I just was so fortunate to be there. It was

2201
02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:51,960
Speaker 1: like the night the night that he that he shot

2202
02:07:52,040 --> 02:07:56,520
Speaker 1: them police. We was on the show Parnto Parnto Advisory

2203
02:07:56,640 --> 02:08:00,480
Speaker 1: Miller and kp them open up for him. So we

2204
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 1: was at Clark College, you know what I mean. We

2205
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 1: we need all of us. We still was in the dungeon.

2206
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 1: So did nobody really knows. We just all ways print

2207
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:12,280
Speaker 1: over backs when we're walking the back door. Coucho get

2208
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,120
Speaker 1: locked up. Soon as we get there, he had an

2209
02:08:14,120 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 1: ounce of weed and like he go to right street.

2210
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:19,000
Speaker 1: Boom he out of there. So we have so we

2211
02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 1: sooner we get in shout at them do their ship

2212
02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:24,880
Speaker 1: and part late. So when Pop come in, Park still

2213
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:27,520
Speaker 1: got on the whole birdie outfit. He still got on

2214
02:08:27,640 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 1: the whole ship like he fresh off. He ran straight

2215
02:08:31,240 --> 02:08:34,160
Speaker 1: off above the rail, got on the plane can't straight

2216
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:36,720
Speaker 1: to Clark. So he got on the stage. You kind

2217
02:08:36,760 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 1: of like, yo, pot, you only got like fifteen minutes, nigger,

2218
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:45,600
Speaker 1: and he was like, shit, I ain't doing on fifteen minutes.

2219
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my show you. I'm gonna tell this

2220
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:49,640
Speaker 1: motherfuck up. And he was like, yo, they touched me,

2221
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:52,240
Speaker 1: Let's ride in this motherfucker's. So that's how the whole

2222
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:55,920
Speaker 1: ship started. When he dipped, they started riding. He leave

2223
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:58,720
Speaker 1: the college, they go down the street. Boom, he see

2224
02:08:58,720 --> 02:09:01,160
Speaker 1: the white dudes. He shooting. It was all on the

2225
02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:05,000
Speaker 1: same night, right, because the police is beating up somebody. Yeah,

2226
02:09:05,480 --> 02:09:09,200
Speaker 1: he leave there, bro. He go to another party, another

2227
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:11,840
Speaker 1: party that we were doing like downtown. I can't remember

2228
02:09:11,880 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 1: the club right now, but I mean he jumped on stage,

2229
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:18,560
Speaker 1: and you gotta remember, at this time, don't nobody even

2230
02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:22,840
Speaker 1: know that's shooting with down because no social media, so

2231
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,040
Speaker 1: we don't even know that ship that happened. He go

2232
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:28,520
Speaker 1: to another club, he get on stage. He already piste off,

2233
02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:31,120
Speaker 1: so he gets through halfway the song and they can't

2234
02:09:31,120 --> 02:09:33,520
Speaker 1: start working with him. He grabs a bit and throws

2235
02:09:33,600 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 1: it in the cry to hit the girl in the face.

2236
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 1: So then he kind of pissing niggas off, and he

2237
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:40,760
Speaker 1: was like okay. So then in part were like, yea man,

2238
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here. And he left that night.

2239
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:45,280
Speaker 1: We didn't know that that police ship and all that

2240
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 1: ship happened to like months and later Monday, Shakora went

2241
02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 1: before the bench in a preliminary court hearing, accused of

2242
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 1: shooting and wounding two off duty police officers during an

2243
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:01,400
Speaker 1: argument on an Atlanta street. The incident happened at this

2244
02:10:01,520 --> 02:10:06,720
Speaker 1: intersection early Sunday morning. Authorities say two officers brothers, were

2245
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 1: crossing the street when a car allegedly nearly hit them.

2246
02:10:10,360 --> 02:10:14,480
Speaker 1: An argument followed and shots were fired. Guns were drawn

2247
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:17,720
Speaker 1: at some point and two people got behind injured and

2248
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:19,160
Speaker 1: could have been killed there and a lot of other

2249
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:22,800
Speaker 1: people killed and some people. Ki Shakur was freed on

2250
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:27,000
Speaker 1: fifty thou dollars bond the answer to aggravated assault charges

2251
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:30,960
Speaker 1: next month. You know what I mean? So intant, like

2252
02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 1: he had one of them nights he had the night

2253
02:10:33,560 --> 02:10:40,440
Speaker 1: he he really was. I think park was just he

2254
02:10:40,600 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 1: knew how you know, ye'all y'all know how like it's

2255
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:47,760
Speaker 1: it's routing, you know, routy knees. So you might know

2256
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:49,600
Speaker 1: a group of rotting kneeds, but you know at the

2257
02:10:49,640 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 1: same time to you gotta act a certain ring around

2258
02:10:52,520 --> 02:10:55,560
Speaker 1: certainties just to know, you know, some need to know.

2259
02:10:55,720 --> 02:10:57,200
Speaker 1: Not the even funk with you will play with you

2260
02:10:57,360 --> 02:11:00,680
Speaker 1: like that part was a master of that. Like you

2261
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:03,120
Speaker 1: gotta remember back then the West Coast of crazy man.

2262
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:05,760
Speaker 1: Like our first deal. I mean, when we first did

2263
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:08,760
Speaker 1: a song with with with mac ten it was like

2264
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:11,400
Speaker 1: doing a drug deal. It was like we met him

2265
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:13,520
Speaker 1: in the studio and it was like, Yo, y'all got

2266
02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:15,440
Speaker 1: to go in the room. We're gonna let y'all know.

2267
02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 1: We walked in the room, set at the table like this,

2268
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:20,720
Speaker 1: and then Matt came out he said it the other end.

2269
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:23,240
Speaker 1: It was like that's how ship was done back then,

2270
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:25,680
Speaker 1: was like y'all gonna do this, Yeah, we're gonna do this.

2271
02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 1: It was about really you respecting motherfucker's you sunk with

2272
02:11:29,280 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 1: because paying motherfucker's news was like Ship, if I'm gonna

2273
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:33,600
Speaker 1: pay you, motherfucker, I want to make sure you got them.

2274
02:11:33,680 --> 02:11:36,760
Speaker 1: Don't give me what I need? Man, could you please

2275
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:39,080
Speaker 1: write the Dungeon Family movie isn't getting ridden? What is

2276
02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:42,400
Speaker 1: happening right now, we're getting a movie. I think everything's

2277
02:11:42,440 --> 02:11:45,440
Speaker 1: getting What's in the vote? Man, what's in that? Good

2278
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:48,080
Speaker 1: at mom vote? Yeah, that y'all ain't released for real.

2279
02:11:53,120 --> 02:11:55,160
Speaker 1: It's a lot of music. I'm gonna tell you all this.

2280
02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 1: It's a lot of music, and it's still a lot more.

2281
02:11:57,960 --> 02:12:00,600
Speaker 1: It's a lot of more. It's a lot more of music.

2282
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:04,800
Speaker 1: It's a lot more. It's a lot of stuff that's

2283
02:12:04,840 --> 02:12:07,360
Speaker 1: gonna come. Man. I could just say that because I

2284
02:12:07,720 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 1: just feel like this, like the stars, the stars, the

2285
02:12:13,520 --> 02:12:15,840
Speaker 1: stars are aligning backup for us to have to come

2286
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 1: back up and we don't have to push see just

2287
02:12:18,280 --> 02:12:20,600
Speaker 1: to see Cole and Kendrick. You know, it was a

2288
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 1: long time before it was just any sign of us,

2289
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:26,800
Speaker 1: dog like you gotta still look like nobody has tried

2290
02:12:26,840 --> 02:12:28,920
Speaker 1: to do what we tried to do, you know, you know,

2291
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:34,600
Speaker 1: to to us. Like I met Kanye when he first

2292
02:12:34,720 --> 02:12:37,000
Speaker 1: came out, when he first were hanging with Dame, because

2293
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:39,720
Speaker 1: I was hanging with Dames. So I met Kanye this

2294
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:42,720
Speaker 1: ross when he was just that college kid with that

2295
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:44,920
Speaker 1: backpack and he was quiet, you know what I mean,

2296
02:12:45,160 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 1: before the car accident. So what what what Kanye and

2297
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:54,760
Speaker 1: turned into? And what other people in Like he spuned

2298
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:57,520
Speaker 1: the Little Seaans like you can hear it, like you

2299
02:12:57,720 --> 02:12:59,640
Speaker 1: hid in trade, you can hear it. You know what

2300
02:12:59,680 --> 02:13:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, how much you had influenced. So it's like

2301
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:06,440
Speaker 1: but it's almost like they're trying to get damn right,

2302
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:11,640
Speaker 1: loop a out. Yeah. See, the ones to tell the

2303
02:13:11,680 --> 02:13:13,920
Speaker 1: truth ain't the ones they want to head of knowledge.

2304
02:13:14,680 --> 02:13:16,560
Speaker 1: The one that they give them all is the ones

2305
02:13:16,640 --> 02:13:19,240
Speaker 1: that they have. Our success of the money Luke they

2306
02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:22,960
Speaker 1: got a new album is hard. Yeah, but come on, man,

2307
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:24,520
Speaker 1: how do we come out on one of the biggest

2308
02:13:24,520 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 1: records he ever had at that time, and that as

2309
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:36,080
Speaker 1: soon as he started talking about the real ship. Mhmm, God, Like,

2310
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:40,800
Speaker 1: it's like Yoda sitting right here, Brothers, I ain't got

2311
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:46,960
Speaker 1: no I just talk, you know, just like that. That's

2312
02:13:47,080 --> 02:13:50,320
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing of the just understanding where you

2313
02:13:50,480 --> 02:13:52,760
Speaker 1: fit in the game, man, because I can't tell you

2314
02:13:52,920 --> 02:13:58,440
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna tell y'all the story public anymo with

2315
02:13:58,520 --> 02:14:01,480
Speaker 1: one of my favorite groups at the time, Like in

2316
02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:03,600
Speaker 1: the first year getting out of high school, ain't really

2317
02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:05,920
Speaker 1: had no job, so I started working that They've got

2318
02:14:06,040 --> 02:14:09,960
Speaker 1: their red lockst on caminga Road and it was like

2319
02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:14,280
Speaker 1: right up the street from Deerfield. So I remember at

2320
02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:19,080
Speaker 1: this time, this is when that song came out. I

2321
02:14:19,240 --> 02:14:21,800
Speaker 1: just got paid and I remember a new edition. They

2322
02:14:21,920 --> 02:14:26,360
Speaker 1: just dropped their new album in the rain, and I'm

2323
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:32,200
Speaker 1: working as a goddamn dishwasher and uh at the red

2324
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 1: lockst on Caminga Road, and you know, at the end

2325
02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:38,160
Speaker 1: of the night, it's just me and it's other dude,

2326
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:40,520
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'm playing my goddamn music and

2327
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gotting them just playing my tapes like man,

2328
02:14:43,760 --> 02:14:45,760
Speaker 1: and you know, the dude just sit him there watching me,

2329
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 1: like you like rap music, don't you. I'm like, yeah, Man,

2330
02:14:50,160 --> 02:14:53,120
Speaker 1: like god damn little wrap my knigge. I just want

2331
02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:55,240
Speaker 1: to do it. I just I just feel like that's

2332
02:14:55,320 --> 02:14:59,320
Speaker 1: my out, Like I can do that ship. He was like,

2333
02:14:59,400 --> 02:15:03,120
Speaker 1: what you listen there too? And I said, man, got

2334
02:15:03,200 --> 02:15:05,960
Speaker 1: them Public in my nig Nation to me and that

2335
02:15:06,040 --> 02:15:08,440
Speaker 1: ship that came out, and I'm on this ship, man,

2336
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:13,200
Speaker 1: this is what I'm want, he said. He said, you

2337
02:15:13,360 --> 02:15:15,920
Speaker 1: like Public in the Hood and said, yeah, one of

2338
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,520
Speaker 1: my favorite groups. Love that na Chuck d. I learned

2339
02:15:19,560 --> 02:15:21,960
Speaker 1: more from him than I learn from goddamn high school

2340
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:29,200
Speaker 1: he said, man, my brother, Professor Grill. What I see

2341
02:15:29,360 --> 02:15:32,160
Speaker 1: what he said? Yeah, I'm as older brother. I'm my

2342
02:15:32,360 --> 02:15:36,400
Speaker 1: name Mike, he said, Professor Griff. That my little brother.

2343
02:15:37,760 --> 02:15:41,400
Speaker 1: He said. They're gonna be here next week. They're coming

2344
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:44,880
Speaker 1: through on the goddamn fresh fist with the Beastie boys.

2345
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:49,160
Speaker 1: Say if you want to meet him, I'll take you

2346
02:15:49,280 --> 02:15:55,240
Speaker 1: to meet him. I said, yeah, so man, like we

2347
02:15:55,320 --> 02:15:58,120
Speaker 1: ain't go in that day. They were like, man, I'm

2348
02:15:58,120 --> 02:16:00,040
Speaker 1: gonna take you down here to the only man you

2349
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:02,720
Speaker 1: can meet him. You know, the whole time like, man,

2350
02:16:02,760 --> 02:16:05,480
Speaker 1: this isn't crazy. I'm living bullshit. And he had to

2351
02:16:05,560 --> 02:16:08,120
Speaker 1: ride the bus and everything. So I'm just like, you

2352
02:16:08,200 --> 02:16:10,320
Speaker 1: know the whole time, like but didn't even be telling

2353
02:16:10,360 --> 02:16:12,200
Speaker 1: the truth. But get me all the way down here.

2354
02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:15,320
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about this ship. So we get there,

2355
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:20,320
Speaker 1: we're waiting, We're waiting. Goddamn everybody show up, you know

2356
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:24,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, everybody show up and here brother Professor

2357
02:16:24,080 --> 02:16:26,040
Speaker 1: Griff get there and I'm like, damn. He was like,

2358
02:16:26,160 --> 02:16:28,880
Speaker 1: this is my this is my brother, Professor Griffin. This

2359
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:32,680
Speaker 1: is the first time met Professor Grill. And then the

2360
02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:34,720
Speaker 1: next thing I know, he was like, yo, man, like,

2361
02:16:35,720 --> 02:16:38,240
Speaker 1: I'm going here. I gotta get the ws. You know,

2362
02:16:38,320 --> 02:16:39,880
Speaker 1: all them need a coming. I gotta get them in

2363
02:16:39,959 --> 02:16:44,160
Speaker 1: into the stage. Chuck on the way. So while I'm

2364
02:16:44,200 --> 02:16:46,360
Speaker 1: sitting there, man we outside, he said, many stay out here.

2365
02:16:46,400 --> 02:16:49,160
Speaker 1: I want you to meet Chuck. I'm talking man, I

2366
02:16:49,240 --> 02:16:53,080
Speaker 1: sit there. My fift team inute later, boy Yellow can't

2367
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:58,160
Speaker 1: pulled up and they need Chuck. Do you get out one?

2368
02:16:58,480 --> 02:17:01,720
Speaker 1: And I was like, damn, I just like you just

2369
02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:07,720
Speaker 1: got a kid like like that, Like I give and

2370
02:17:07,840 --> 02:17:11,119
Speaker 1: I learned something that day. I just like that man

2371
02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:14,560
Speaker 1: headline in tonight, my nigga, he gets fun by No guy,

2372
02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:19,920
Speaker 1: none of that ship he here about the message always

2373
02:17:19,959 --> 02:17:27,400
Speaker 1: stuck with me. Yeah, that's dope. I mean, I mean

2374
02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:33,640
Speaker 1: Jesus guys. Hey man, that did something of my spirit.

2375
02:17:33,720 --> 02:17:38,840
Speaker 1: Man weekend. Hey man, I'm out. Man. I thank y'all

2376
02:17:38,920 --> 02:17:41,840
Speaker 1: so much. I thank y'all so much for having me.

2377
02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:45,160
Speaker 1: Man come back. Man, we gotta write this movie. Man,

2378
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:48,040
Speaker 1: what's up? I want to see this movie? Man, you

2379
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:50,000
Speaker 1: can do it in two or three parts. Man, this guy,

2380
02:17:50,080 --> 02:17:53,680
Speaker 1: you can't just you got limited to one. Uh got

2381
02:17:53,800 --> 02:17:57,360
Speaker 1: these shoulders the way we can do a series. We can, Man,

2382
02:17:57,560 --> 02:17:59,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, all so much. Man, I'm out of him.

2383
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:03,440
Speaker 1: The mute for you before you go, tell me where

2384
02:18:03,440 --> 02:18:05,480
Speaker 1: they can find your man. Let me tell y'all, y'all

2385
02:18:05,520 --> 02:18:08,080
Speaker 1: can find me on social media. Man, they give good

2386
02:18:08,840 --> 02:18:11,760
Speaker 1: uh ship, Man, I got all kind of ship going on.

2387
02:18:11,879 --> 02:18:13,560
Speaker 1: I come out, Hey man. We can get the good

2388
02:18:13,600 --> 02:18:15,680
Speaker 1: at Mob on the show. Hey man, you can get

2389
02:18:15,720 --> 02:18:18,760
Speaker 1: good at Mob on the show. Get good a Mob

2390
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:26,440
Speaker 1: on the show. You heard it right there, eighty five

2391
02:18:28,160 --> 02:18:41,760
Speaker 1: eighty eighty tie I got Can you sign about jacket? Man,

2392
02:18:41,840 --> 02:18:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying of I'm trying to goddamn she meant this ship.

2393
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:51,440
Speaker 1: If I got a sharp pens, I got one right here,

2394
02:18:58,280 --> 02:19:03,119
Speaker 1: still in the perfect water. Still get tape, still in there.

2395
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:10,280
Speaker 1: It's rewound like a real hill hoop block. Get right

2396
02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:13,480
Speaker 1: there side a New Faces, real cassette. And this this

2397
02:19:15,480 --> 02:19:17,400
Speaker 1: that man, I left it on the last song I

2398
02:19:17,600 --> 02:19:19,960
Speaker 1: played it on. I mean, whatever song I put it on,

2399
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:22,120
Speaker 1: it's in the right spot. You know how much you

2400
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 1: got making JJ He could watch TV, but it was

2401
02:19:27,760 --> 02:19:38,880
Speaker 1: a puntionment listening to tape. Favorite fighting. They got his

2402
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:42,760
Speaker 1: fighting for the spirit phone. Have a go right home.

2403
02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:44,560
Speaker 1: Everybody will be on