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Speaker 4: Oh, what's up everybody? Thanks for tuning in to Coveno

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Speaker 4: and Wednesday this hump day, getting you through the week.

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Speaker 4: But the guys were in for Dan Patrick this morning,

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Speaker 4: so you get me Monty Beilano's and Dan Buyer for

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Speaker 4: the next two hours.

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Speaker 5: Let's have some fun.

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Speaker 6: Dan, We've been having a lot of fun so far.

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Speaker 6: We were in earlier for Doug Gottlieb, and you had

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Speaker 6: two more hours to go. A lot to talk about

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Speaker 6: with the NBA, NFL, and really our habits. I think

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Speaker 6: Gavino and Rich do this so well. They bring lifestyle

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Speaker 6: into the conversation, really and sitting down and watching an

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Speaker 6: NBA game. Apparently it's been more of a lifestyle lately,

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Speaker 6: so let's get into it.

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Speaker 5: Why not?

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Speaker 4: And I think there's several reasons as to why the

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Speaker 4: NBA is doing so well. To start off, the season now,

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Speaker 4: Just search Cavino and rich FSR on YouTube. Again, that's

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Speaker 6: And with the YouTube channel, you can usually see the guys.

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Speaker 6: You can see Danny g. You can see Spot, you

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Speaker 6: can see me or Mancy if we're at the news desk.

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Speaker 6: But today Isaac long On Crown is at the news desk. Hello, Isaac,

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Speaker 6: how's it going?

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Speaker 7: I had to pream just in case we're on camera

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Speaker 7: here as it relates to our discussion earlier, your discussion

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Speaker 7: earlier about people who wear sneakers with their suits, by the.

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Speaker 5: Way, which I have no problem with at all, but

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Speaker 5: you did not like I don't like that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I had an issue you did.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 4: I understand, I have no problem with it, but I

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Speaker 4: have a problem with the hoodie and a blazer. We

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Speaker 4: don't just have Isaac Lohencron here, we have our producer

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Speaker 4: Bo Benson. All right, Bo, well, Bo excited that Lebron

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Speaker 4: James is back for his Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Sure, let's go with that.

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Speaker 6: Sure bringing the energy?

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Speaker 8: So I was gonna sell just seriously, I wanted to

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Speaker 8: make the point. I wanted to make the point earlierhen

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Speaker 8: were talking about shoes. I was going to say the

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Speaker 8: trump card for me was going to be Johnny Knoxville

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Speaker 8: got married this weekend. And I'm like, if anybody's getting

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Speaker 8: married and chucks, it's Johnny Knoxville. Sure, So I looked

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Speaker 8: it up and he was wearing he was wearing loafers

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Speaker 8: for this wedding.

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Speaker 6: I'm wearing good shoes. That's a trump card. That's my

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Speaker 6: trump by the way, that's my tru Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was in a short loafers are loafers considered?

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Speaker 2: They were like loafers.

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Speaker 6: Fine, may not work, but at least it's not right

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Speaker 6: Air Force Ones.

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Speaker 5: I I rather.

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Speaker 4: I think I rather take Air Force Ones and the loafers.

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Speaker 4: And we have Ryan Smith on the Ones into.

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Speaker 6: It's Papa Bear, and I took my shoes off. Actually,

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Speaker 6: he's got like eight different names. We could draw the hat,

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Speaker 6: we could do the wrestling name if we wanted to.

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Speaker 6: We got also do under the weather. Ryan today.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I'm sorry, but still.

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Speaker 6: Battling because he wanted to hang out with us today.

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Speaker 5: Of course, of course, So Dan, how much MBA have

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Speaker 5: you watched?

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Speaker 9: So?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I caught some flak because I said I

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Speaker 6: haven't been locked into the NBA. It doesn't mean that

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Speaker 6: I don't know what's going on with the v I

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Speaker 6: the majority is because we had heard reports and even

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Speaker 6: last I'll give Covino and Rich credit. Even a week

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Speaker 6: are a bunch of theories why, But just to give

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Speaker 6: all of their platforms. That's up thirty six percent from

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Speaker 6: ESPN the same thing. But if you're going to NBA TV,

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Speaker 6: They were up seventy four percent from a year ago.

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Speaker 6: So the viewership numbers across the board for the NBA,

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Speaker 4: And I think it's of a variety of things, right,

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Speaker 4: I think people at the start of any season, you're excited.

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Speaker 5: I even think with like baseball.

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Speaker 4: You know, once baseball gets going, you're excited. But you

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Speaker 4: You're excited the NBA season is here. I also, I

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Speaker 4: really do think it's that people are tuning in to

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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not tuning in to watch Anthony Edwards.

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Speaker 4: He hasn't and it's a It started off with calf soreness.

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Speaker 4: for several weeks. The the unks are playing and they're

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Speaker 6: I could I could not disagree more because I actually

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Speaker 5: I would not agree with.

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Speaker 6: That, and he would be the unk of all unks,

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Speaker 6: And I get it, I'm the unk here, I'm older

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Speaker 6: than all of you. But he's a polarizing unk, yes,

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Speaker 6: and he sucks a lot of the energy.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, so you I agree with you. I think

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Speaker 6: So if Lebron's not there, we're talking more about the Lakers.

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Speaker 4: What about the unk theory on the other side of

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Speaker 6: I think that that has I think the overall changing

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Speaker 6: I knew that on Thursday nights I could tune into TNT.

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Speaker 6: I still am trying to figure out where everything is

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Speaker 6: on what channel. And on Monday night, I was looking

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Speaker 6: Like where do I have to go for this? And

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Speaker 6: where do I have to find this? Where do I go?

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Speaker 6: Last night it's the Peacock NBC game, where if you're

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Speaker 6: But I like the newness of it. So the technology

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Speaker 6: I've heard from people who have consumed it has been refreshing.

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Speaker 6: I think the analysis has been refreshing from the newer voices,

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Speaker 6: and I think that's actually a bit of an indictment

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Speaker 6: We would always go to TNT to search out that game,

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Speaker 6: but if it's not on it was on ESPN, and

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Speaker 6: really it wasn't on ABC earlier in the season. There

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Speaker 6: bringing it back. I think that is a big role

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Speaker 5: I think you're actually make some really good points.

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Speaker 4: The newness of the people talking about the sport is

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Speaker 4: maybe what's bringing people in to start. Like you said,

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Speaker 4: it's not easy to catch a game, and I.

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Speaker 5: Don't think there is.

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Speaker 4: Is there a set rhyme or reason as to when

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Speaker 4: every single game or is it you know, the inside

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Speaker 4: the NPA guys that are now on ESPN, like we.

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Speaker 5: Knew when they were going to come out.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if there is a set schedule for

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Speaker 4: or if it's just kind of like, oh, they're covering

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Speaker 5: But could it be that you're not listening to Steven A.

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Speaker 6: Correct, there's more substance to it, and that's more of

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Speaker 6: And I get that Stephen A is polarizing and he's

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Speaker 5: But he's the face of it, right like for the

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Speaker 5: Yes it was.

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Speaker 6: Now he's been taking off NBA Countdown and isn't in

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Speaker 6: that sort of role. They also made changes with their

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Speaker 6: but I think that I think that there is whether

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Speaker 6: it's fair or not. There was this feel of ESPN

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Speaker 6: and ABC of being inferior to the TNT product. Okay,

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Speaker 6: and to your point on how the halftimes, which people

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Speaker 6: with NBC, there would be more people like me, more

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Speaker 6: were growing up, the NBA on NBC is probably something

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Speaker 6: But I don't think it's been that. I think people

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Speaker 6: And they know what ESPN did wrong. They know they

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Speaker 6: can't do a halftime and just get fifteen second sound

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Speaker 6: I also think that there's this formula and I'm not

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Speaker 5: Like you're checking off the buses.

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Speaker 4: And with Blake Griffin, it's like he didn't he never won,

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Speaker 6: Were playing well. I just don't think he brings people

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Speaker 4: I bet you that Lakers Spurs game though people tune

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think he's a part of it as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I'm I'm just more agreeing with you that, Like,

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Speaker 8: The thing like you were talking about with the studio shows,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all.

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Speaker 8: Got really conditioned to assume that it's Oh, it's Chuck

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Speaker 8: You've just been so condenned, Like everyone assumed that Michael

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but the Jordan thing is not what we all thought.

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Speaker 5: It was going to be, not at all.

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Speaker 2: You probably record he probably recorded those all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolute he did. Yes.

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Speaker 6: And And the point about the Spurs Lakers thing is

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Speaker 6: I don't know who the Lakers had in the schedule

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Speaker 10: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I hate it.

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Speaker 4: I do think it has affected the way people look

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Speaker 6: Yes, And so if you're going on there glowingly not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, especially like I I like the NBA.

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Speaker 4: So you telling me that the product sucks, I know

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Speaker 8: Yes, you don't hear baseball guys really talk about how

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Speaker 6: Whether they're calling a spade a spade if that's what

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Speaker 4: But but we're still playing, so you might as stop

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of high scoring. So let's you already

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Speaker 4: told me that. I already know that, but let's still

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Speaker 6: I said that the NBA did not want to re

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Speaker 4: Because it's like, we know the product is done, but

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Speaker 6: A month in with the ratings being at any point

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Speaker 5: But come back to me in January.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let's let's see how this moment tom me. And

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Speaker 6: Absolutely what it was. You knew that's where we were going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what would you have preferred?

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Speaker 6: Troy's upset of chanting state last night and double overtime.

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Speaker 7: Well, take note, listeners in Ohio, because the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 7: Here is what Bengals head coach Zach Taylor had to

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Speaker 9: You can certainly get a lot of work in with

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Speaker 9: who was going to practice on a Wednesday. Joe Flacco

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Speaker 9: hasn't done that. We got to think of another way

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Speaker 9: to communicate this because the two Joes that really is

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Speaker 7: And by the way, stay tuned for further discussion of

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Speaker 7: including tomorrow on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Anyway,

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Speaker 7: the Cleveland Browns have named rookie Shador Sanders their starting

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Speaker 7: quarterback for Sunday's game at Las Vegas. Jets head coach

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Speaker 7: Aaron Glenn announced to Rod Taylor will start a quarterback

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Speaker 7: Sunday against the Ravens. Falcons confirmed quarterback Michael Pennix Junior

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Speaker 7: will need season ending surgery for a partially torn left ACL. Finally,

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Speaker 7: in college football, Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian addressed rumors

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Speaker 7: of him potentially leaving Texas today on the SEC coach's

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Speaker 7: weekly media conference call.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 10: I've had no discussions, not with my agent, not with

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Speaker 10: the university, not with any other school, not with any

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Speaker 10: NFL team about ever going anywhere else.

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Speaker 6: I came here to win championships.

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Speaker 10: So moving forward, when some Joe Blow decides to put

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Speaker 10: something on social media out there, we all don't run

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Speaker 10: with it like it's the gospel. Can we all agree

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Speaker 10: on that? And if you have a question about my

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Speaker 10: future with the University of Texas, ask me, ask Krystal Connie.

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Speaker 10: He'll be more than happy to take your call so

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Speaker 10: focus on our football team, which is really what we

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Speaker 10: should be doing.

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Speaker 7: So that's what's trending, Dan and Monse, Joe Burrow, Joe Flacco,

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Speaker 7: and Joe Blow on social media.

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Speaker 6: Back to you for the hat trick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, why did he sound so mad?

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Speaker 6: Isn't that because it it?

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Speaker 5: He sounds so annoyed.

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Speaker 6: Well, because it's probably the work of other schools trying

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Speaker 6: to connect the dots in terms of recruits and players

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Speaker 6: in trying to say, look, hey, you should probably come

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Speaker 6: to our school. See Steve Sarkisyan's I even going to

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Speaker 6: be there. He's going to be going to the New

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Speaker 6: York Giants. Hey, reporter, guess what I've heard the Jackson

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Speaker 6: Dart you know sort of deal. If they can't get Kiffin,

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Speaker 6: Sarkisian is going to go to New York and try

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Speaker 6: to like those are those are the conversations that that

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Speaker 6: you have. And so then now Sarkisian looks like if

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Speaker 6: a recruit's like, oh, you're even going to be going,

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Speaker 6: it's one of the reasons why they get so much.

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Speaker 4: And I hear what you're saying, But again, why are

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Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think he is surprised, but sounding

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Speaker 5: upset about it.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be mad.

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Speaker 5: It just sounds and he just sounds mad.

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Speaker 4: And there's been a lot of quarterback carousel when it

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Speaker 4: comes to college of football Lane Kiffin at ole Miss.

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Speaker 5: What they've lost one game? I think they're third in the.

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Speaker 4: SEC, having a good having a good having a great season,

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Speaker 4: having a great season. There are reports rumors The Athletic

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Speaker 4: reported that ole Miss has given him like a like

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Speaker 4: a date, an ultimatum, ultimatum for him to decide whether

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Speaker 4: he's going to leave the Rebels and become a coach

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Speaker 4: at LSU or Florida, which I think is I don't

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Speaker 4: know what Lang Kevin is thinking, but I hope he's like,

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Speaker 4: absolutely not, I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what he's thinking. Because he was on

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Speaker 6: Pat McAfee yesterday. This is what he had to say.

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Speaker 6: That's absolutely not true. There's been no ultimating anything like

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Speaker 6: that at all, and so I don't know where that

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Speaker 6: came from. Like a lot of stuff that comes out there.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, man, we're having a blast.

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Speaker 6: I love it here. So I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't necessarily believe that there was no ultimatum.

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Speaker 5: I think that's what he has to say, right, But

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Speaker 5: if you.

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Speaker 4: Really look at it, it's kind of just like, why

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Speaker 4: would you leave Ole miss You have a good thing going,

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Speaker 4: you would have to go and fight at LSU?

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Speaker 5: Okay? Do you do you want to make history or

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Speaker 5: do you want to rewrite history?

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Speaker 6: Well, okay, tell me more like.

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Speaker 4: With LSU, wouldn't he have to go in and rewrite

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Speaker 4: the history of LSU to become the man and become

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Speaker 4: the coach?

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Speaker 6: Again, you're saying because editors are on, because less miles,

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Speaker 6: because Nick abeen all one national championships, that what are

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Speaker 6: you doing that hasn't been done exactly?

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Speaker 4: You have a higher a higher road to climb in

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Speaker 4: order to put your name at the top of that mountain.

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Speaker 6: Yes, and if you stayed at Ole Miss, you can

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Speaker 6: just continue to be the man.

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Speaker 5: They just continue to be the man with your advisor.

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Speaker 6: Your message of the grass isn't always greener, is what

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Speaker 6: you're trying to convey, But the money is because there's

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Speaker 6: just a lot more green.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, and.

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Speaker 6: Listen, I get it, like I would love I would

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Speaker 6: love for that narrative to stay Manzi of Lane Kiffen

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Speaker 6: staying at ole Miss, Ole Miss. According to reports, he's

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Speaker 6: maybe be about a year old, but there's still they're

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Speaker 6: still fairly relevant. Here brings in about one hundred and

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Speaker 6: thirty three million dollars in total revenue. Okay as a school, Okay, LSU,

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Speaker 6: that's probably about thirtieth in the country, I believe. According yeah,

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Speaker 6: I was thirtieth at the time of these numbers that

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Speaker 6: were in twenty twenty five. LSU is six. They bring

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Speaker 6: in almost two hundred million dollars. Florida is eighth. You

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Speaker 6: have much more resources, You have the likelihood of the

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Speaker 6: access to players and I yel at those schools will

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Speaker 6: likely be more, and those schools will likely pay you more.

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Speaker 6: That's that's what it's That's truly what it's about, is

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Speaker 6: whether you want to go for the grass being greener

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Speaker 6: or the cash being greener. And it's very difficult, and Monti,

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Speaker 6: I'm actually going to make an example of why I

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Speaker 6: agree with you. Remember my golf club fitting this past summer.

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Speaker 6: I was so excited because I got fitted for irons.

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Speaker 6: And during this session that I got fitted, I was

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Speaker 6: purchase of brand new irons. I cannot hit them worth

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Speaker 6: a lick. And in fact, I took them to the

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Speaker 6: guy that gives me lessons. He goes, these aren't even

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Speaker 6: fitted right for you because the fitting that you got,

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00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 6: the guys didn't do it correctly. We need to adjust

656
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 6: the lie angle on this because this isn't matching your swing.

657
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Speaker 2: So I was remember how I.

658
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Speaker 6: Remember how excited I was in showing you the numbers

659
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 6: and the bells and whistles. And I know, if you're

660
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 6: listening to this, you don't know what exactly I'm talking

661
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 6: about in my excitement of this, but I was very

662
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 6: excited to be like, wow, this is what's happening with

663
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 6: my golf swing. This is good. I've got a two

664
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 6: way miss right now. This will help some of that.

665
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 6: All of that being thrown in and it made me

666
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 6: want to go and dive in and make the investment

667
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 6: to get new golf clubs. And thank goodness I didn't

668
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 6: sell my old ones because I still have them in

669
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 6: my bag and those are the ones that I'm swinging

670
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 6: with right now. And it just goes to show that

671
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 6: maybe it wasn't too bad the way before. Now I'm sorry,

672
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 6: it is a different level. And that's with all due

673
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 6: respect to ole Miss. To think that link Kifn is

674
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 6: going to get the amount of financial support year after

675
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 6: year after year at ole Miss than he would at

676
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 6: Florida and LSU is probably not true Ole Miss as well.

677
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 6: Like link Kiffin's dealt with it in his time there,

678
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 6: they've had to deal with guys leaving for bigger schools

679
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 6: in the transfer portal. One of the bigger names was

680
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 6: Quinn Shawn Judkins, you know, not running back for the

681
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 6: for the Cleveland Browns, but he left Ole Miss ended

682
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 6: up going to Ohio State last year and winning a

683
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 6: national championship. That's probably not happening at Florida, and it's

684
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 6: probably not happening at LSU that players are going to

685
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 6: be in that position because those players, by the way,

686
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 6: will also be making more money in those situations. So

687
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 6: I get it. I get the whole grass is not

688
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 6: always greener. And it's easy for Steve Sarkisian to say

689
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 6: that considering Texas's total revenues are two hundred and forty

690
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 6: million dollars, basically top two in the country, them in

691
00:32:54,680 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 6: Ohio state the biggest two revenue drawers. But that's that's

692
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 6: why he's thinking entertaining it. Yeah, and and in a

693
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 6: way that you almost have to like, it's gonna take.

694
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 6: It's gonna take so so much for him to say

695
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 6: no to those schools. It is going to be so difficult.

696
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 6: I think maybe we've been in situations in our own

697
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 6: lives where it's just you have all the information, and

698
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 6: the information says go, but there's something in your gut

699
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 6: that tells you to stay. That's the only thing that

700
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 6: I think would keep link Kiffen in Oxford.

701
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Speaker 4: Listen, he's making, according to the Internet, about nine million

702
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 4: dollars a year.

703
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, You're fine.

704
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 4: You're fine because the pressure goes insanely up if you

705
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Speaker 4: go to LSU.

706
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Speaker 5: You know, like, how long is your leash gonna be there?

707
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 4: Yes, you're probably gonna make more money, but I don't

708
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: know how much patience are gonna have with you if.

709
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Speaker 5: You take on that position. How long did Brian Kelly

710
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: last three and a half years? Sure, Like, I just

711
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 5: feel like here, this is peace of mind? Is you

712
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: staying at all?

713
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Speaker 4: Miss?

714
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Speaker 6: Here's my question though. Let's just say they take a dip,

715
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,719
Speaker 6: they don't get a great transfer like they did at

716
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 6: quarterback this year, and now all of a sudden, Ole

717
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 6: misses eight and four, seven and five because guess what,

718
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 6: the nil game is now completely out of control and

719
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 6: you're still trying to compete with Georgia, Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma

720
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 6: in addition to Florida and LSU and other schools, and

721
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 6: now you know, like the and now you're seven and

722
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 6: five after a couple of seven and five seasons, who

723
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 6: says that Ole Miss isn't Almost is not gonna say,

724
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 6: guess what, thanks for staying with us. Almost is going

725
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 6: to say, you know what, we kind of need a

726
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 6: new direction here that the Lang Kiffin era is run

727
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 6: its course, and that's what coaches have to deal with

728
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 6: on every level.

729
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 4: Sure, sure, but that could be in any situation, right

730
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Speaker 4: I just if you're thinking like that, if you're thinking like,

731
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: what if everything starts to go bad here and I've

732
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: missed an opportunity?

733
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 5: But what if everything starts to stay the same.

734
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 4: And you bring this program to the top, and then

735
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: you could be the next man of college football?

736
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Speaker 5: Because it's like, I don't think are you trying to

737
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 5: get to the NFL? I don't think so. You been there,

738
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 5: dumb holes. But he could probably get a job right

739
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 5: now in the NFL. Sure, if he wanted to could be.

740
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 5: So it's just I just it would have to be.

741
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Speaker 4: You would have to put so much in front of

742
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: me for me, and it's to give the advice to

743
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: Lae Kiffen to.

744
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 5: Leave ole Miss.

745
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: Not that he's calling for my advice, but you would

746
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: have to put so much in front of me for

747
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 4: me to change my mind.

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Speaker 6: Can I ask Bo Benson, our executive producer, a question,

749
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Speaker 6: do you think it is more likely than not that

750
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Speaker 6: Ole Miss has another ten and one start to their

751
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 6: season in the next three years?

752
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: Oh?

753
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: Much less likely?

754
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, ten and one.

755
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Speaker 8: The thing with Kiffin is that he is a proven

756
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 8: commodity in the SEC, which I think buys him more

757
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 8: time if he were to go to Florida or LSU,

758
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 8: because he doesn't he's not following up Urban Meyer at Florida,

759
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 8: and he's not following up like Les Miles or Nick

760
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 8: Saban at LSU. Like he gets to come in and

761
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 8: be the savior, and the fans are going to be

762
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 8: more willing I think to give him time because he's

763
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 8: done it in the SEC already, whereas a guy at

764
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Speaker 8: Florida's name I already forgot Billiy Napier. Yeah, billiy Napier.

765
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 8: He came from a smaller school, so he didn't get

766
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 8: that leeway, and nobody like Brian Kelly from the moment

767
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 8: he stepped foot on campus at LSU.

768
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 6: Listen, Dan Mullen coached at Florida as an assistant to

769
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Speaker 6: Urban Meyer. Now, I was at Mississippi State and had

770
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 6: a good run at Mississippi State and then left for Florida. Now,

771
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 6: Dan Mullen, after I stopping TV's at UNLV right now,

772
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 6: it's just now. And now, by the way, with the

773
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Speaker 6: emergence of Texas A and m under Mike Elcho Aside

774
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 6: from having to deal with Georgia in Alabama every single week,

775
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 6: if you stay at ole Miss, you're gonna have to

776
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 6: deal with LSU and now Texas A and M in

777
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 6: Oklahoma in those schools. So just the likelihood that Ole

778
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 6: Miss could keep this sort of level with all those

779
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 6: other schools at that level is it's just not likely

780
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 6: going to happen. So we shall see. I am right

781
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 6: there with you, Monci. Though the grass isn't always greener,

782
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 6: it's just a matter of if his gut's gonna tell

783
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: him to stay or not, because the cash will be

784
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 6: greener anyway. That's the life that lane Kiffin leads, and

785
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 6: apparently there's no ultimatum. They have a bye week this week.

786
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 6: Then they've got their egg Bowl coming up on next Friday,

787
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 6: a week from Friday against Mississippi State, and that will

788
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 6: end the regular season. There is also the conversation if

789
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 6: Lane Kiffin. This is a whole nother wrinkle into this.

790
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Speaker 6: If Lane Kiffin were to take a job at the

791
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 6: end of the regular season, would that affect ole Miss's

792
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 6: status in the College Football Playoff and whether they would

793
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 6: be included in the field or if their seating would

794
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 6: drop if they didn't have their head coach. Now, that

795
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 6: could be the wrinkle that is everybody up in arms

796
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 6: on if you're leaving for another job and costing your

797
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 6: team a chance in that playoff. I don't know if

798
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 6: LSU and Florida are going to be willing to wait

799
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Speaker 6: through a college football playoff to get their guy. It's

800
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 6: a long month. Yeah, it's a long month, but they

801
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 6: may have to if they want it to be Lin Kidny.

802
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, done, done, done done.

803
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 6: It's like the WWE. And speaking of the WWE, one

804
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 6: NFL player is in well, let's just say in the mix,

805
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 6: but should he be with the World Wrestling Entertainment. She's Monty,

806
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 6: I'm Dan in for Cavino and Rich Here on Fox.

807
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 5: It's Cavino and Rich, but the guys aren't here.

808
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 4: It's me, Monty Bilanios and Dan Bayer and the guys

809
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 4: we are in for the Dan Patrick Show. But thanks

810
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: for hanging out with us as we dive into Dan,

811
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 4: What are you allowed to do when you are sick?

812
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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a great, great question, is a questioned.

813
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 6: I feel guilty when I miss work right and I

814
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 6: have to go to the store to maybe get my stuff,

815
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 6: like maybe my wife can't pick up the stuff.

816
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 5: Sure you need some soup, you need some day quill,

817
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 5: you need something, right?

818
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yes, And even though where I live is really

819
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 6: near no one here at Fox Sports Radio always feel

820
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 6: I'm going to bump into someone or the boss is

821
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Speaker 6: going to be an Aisle nine when I'm looking at

822
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Speaker 6: this stuff and it's like, oh, you're not at work, right,

823
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 6: You're I thought you were sick. I have this guilt

824
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 6: complex to be at home if I am missing that.

825
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 6: I don't want to be anywhere that I shouldn't be

826
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Speaker 6: if I am out of work or out of commission.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's understandable.

828
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 4: You should be able to go to the store though,

829
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: and get yourself some food and get yourself whatever it

830
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: is that you need, especially if what you have is

831
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 4: like a like a head cold, then you're not you know,

832
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 4: like a fever.

833
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 5: I'm not moving.

834
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 4: But if I have like a cold, I hear you,

835
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 4: I'm going to go get myself something to eat, something

836
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 4: to make sure i'm you know, be myself up.

837
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 6: Yes, stuff to try to make yourself feel better. And

838
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 6: I think that's a good enough excuse. And Cam Scaboo says, yeah,

839
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 6: I was at a WWE event basically to try to

840
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 6: make myself feel better. That was his reasoning when he

841
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 6: got criticized for appearing at a WWE event on Monday

842
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 6: night where he had a brew haha with some wrestlers

843
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: that were obviously in the script and some other Giants

844
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 6: players were there as well. But Scataboo took to X

845
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 6: yesterday to say this in defense of his actions at

846
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 6: the wrestling event. Quote, Honestly, if if you don't like

847
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: that I'm having a good time while dealing with a

848
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 6: tough time, then just go ahead and unfollowing casually move on.

849
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Speaker 6: I'm not able to play football and have the fun

850
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 6: I've been having my whole life, so I am doing

851
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 6: things outside the box, trying to find stuff to keep

852
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 6: me happy. Enjoy the rest of y'all's week, and just

853
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 6: don't talk about me. If he ain't got nothing nice to.

854
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: Say, Listen, Cam, I get what you are saying, but

855
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: your your career, your livelihood depends on you staying healthy

856
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: and not from a cold or a fever, but in

857
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: your body. So I have no problem with you being

858
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: at this WWE event, but can you be sitting up

859
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 4: in a suite where you're not part of the show

860
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: because one wrong step and then you know what if

861
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: you got what if you further injured yourself.

862
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 5: By being in that position? You could be there. But

863
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 5: don't hear it, be involved in it.

864
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Speaker 6: I hear you. But when is Cam Skataboo in his

865
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 6: entire life? Because I that was my initial thought, Manzi,

866
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Speaker 6: when is Cam Scataboo gonna get to be New York

867
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 6: Giants running back Cam Scataboo for his life? It's maybe

868
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 6: what four years maximum? And this coming off of an

869
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Speaker 6: injury where his foot was on backwards. Yep, okay, so

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Speaker 6: there's there's zero guarantee that Cam's Scataboo is going to

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Speaker 6: come back one hundred percent and be the same running back.

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Speaker 6: We hope that he is sure right I was, I

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Speaker 6: was right there with you, my gos. They're pushing him like,

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Speaker 6: couldn't even the wrestlers like realize that the guy had

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Speaker 6: surgery to repair his injury, that he's trying to rehab

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Speaker 6: from that. I'm actually for it, and I stand by

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Speaker 6: him because that window is so small and it's right

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Speaker 6: now and he's not even playing and he's still a

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Speaker 6: hot ticket, so you gotta cash in while the iron

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Speaker 6: is hot. So I was. I was about to to

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Speaker 6: take him and rake him over the colds, but I

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Speaker 6: can't do it.

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Speaker 4: You could have put him in the exact same video,

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Speaker 4: imagine this exact same video where he gets up. Why

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Speaker 4: can't he Why couldn't he have just state sitting down

886
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Speaker 4: and with his crutch poked at them and entered and

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Speaker 4: not stood up like you can be a part of it.

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Speaker 4: I yes, I agree, she's like different ways if you're crutch.

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Speaker 6: These script writers should have been better. We'll even have

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Speaker 6: to ask Papa Bear as well. They could have written

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Speaker 6: a better script, right, I mean, come on, like cheeze,

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Speaker 6: but he should be there have a good time like

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Speaker 6: we are.