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Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome, I'm back Episode thirty one.

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Speaker 3: Ey L thirty one Episode thirty.

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Speaker 2: One in the earlier age of podcasts. So today's a

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Speaker 2: special special episode for us for a few different reasons.

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Speaker 2: It's the first episode that we've had two guests. We're

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Speaker 2: before we go into the episode, August twenty second, we

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Speaker 2: are coming to Houston, Texas to do our Meet and

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Speaker 2: is the fourth installment of the Network Meet and Greet.

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Speaker 2: And the purpose of the Network Meet and Greed is

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Speaker 2: really for us to interact with our supporters, but more

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Speaker 2: importantly to bring people together. And you know, one of

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Speaker 2: You never know how somebody can help you, Like that

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Speaker 4: And I think there's like a misconception, like people think

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Speaker 2: Not a seminar.

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Speaker 3: It's for people to meet and greet with each other.

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Speaker 4: Because even when we leave that city that we're in,

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Speaker 2: The meet and greet is a vibe within itself. It's

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Speaker 2: as I said, the interact, but it's it's dope because

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Speaker 2: we bring some of our guests with us. We're definitely

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Speaker 2: party with productive tendencies, you know what I mean. There's

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Speaker 2: So Houston, we need you guys to come out, rs VP.

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Speaker 2: We have a very special episode. Today, we have Lenny

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Speaker 4: Right now is the time where, yeah, college is back

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Speaker 4: Like we're learning these things as we go. And I think, like, yes,

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Speaker 2: Who do I ask? How do you challenge the system?

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Speaker 5: So I don't want to say, like challenge the system.

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Speaker 8: how is it built, what was What do I have

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Speaker 8: to do to fix this space?

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Speaker 6: What do I have to do to.

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Speaker 8: Make sure that my family if I want to start

441
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Speaker 8: a family, goes in here. It can't just be let

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Speaker 8: me just show up, pull up and figure out the

443
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Speaker 8: rest investment? Right, And so what people have to do

444
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Speaker 8: is is really start to invest in a child and

445
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Speaker 8: a student's education before they even get in there and

446
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Speaker 8: find the programs because colleges and universities some of them

447
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Speaker 8: will do it, but a lot of them will not.

448
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Speaker 8: And say, listen, we're going to give you a two

449
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Speaker 8: day orientation session to figure out how to succeed in college,

450
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Speaker 8: and you know you and they're trying to holler at

451
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Speaker 8: other people. You and there trying to have fun, you know,

452
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Speaker 8: because they're also doing that too.

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Speaker 6: There's a DJ at that time, you know, and you're.

454
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Speaker 8: Sitting here thinking like, man, I don't even know what

455
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Speaker 8: registraw is. And I remember, like as a college student,

456
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Speaker 8: I was like, is it register? And they're like, no,

457
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Speaker 8: it's registrar And I'm like, why what does that even mean?

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Speaker 3: Right when you're registering for class?

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Speaker 6: Correct, when you're registering for class.

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Speaker 8: So there are these simple little things that that students

461
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Speaker 8: aren't prepared for. And so for me, I just think

462
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Speaker 8: that you have to invest in the same way that

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Speaker 8: you would invest in a house, the same way that

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Speaker 8: you wouldn't buy a car without making every possible detail

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Speaker 8: before it.

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Speaker 6: You have to do the same.

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Speaker 7: And I think the key is invest past financials because

468
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Speaker 7: a lot of people always talk about college and investing

469
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Speaker 7: and it's only the financial piece when we're saying about

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Speaker 7: the investment, saying due to research as well and understand

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Speaker 7: where college is going, what colleges are doing a different degrees,

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Speaker 7: because it can be really beneficial for you.

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Speaker 2: And it's also very important. I think what Jeff said

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Speaker 2: as far as to find people on campus that know

475
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Speaker 2: the deal and because that's that helped me out a lot.

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Speaker 2: As far as like when I first got there, I

477
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Speaker 2: had somebody shout out to my mansion. Well, he's from

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Speaker 2: the Bronx and he was a junior when I was

479
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Speaker 2: a freshman. He was on the team and he was seasoned.

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Speaker 2: He was there for two years. So he kind of

481
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Speaker 2: explained to me, like, take this class right, don't do

482
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Speaker 2: this and have this many credits, and like this professor

483
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Speaker 2: is cool, and he kind of walked me through it

484
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Speaker 2: and from there I was able to have a small transition.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's important to have that mentor. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if schools.

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Speaker 7: Have program they do and then the other thing before

488
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Speaker 7: even talked about what you want. The mentors just don't

489
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Speaker 7: get too caught up on titles as well. Right, looking

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Speaker 7: for somebody with a leadership title to be a mentor.

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Speaker 7: There's just people on campus that literally run the campus

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Speaker 7: but don't have any fancy title.

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Speaker 3: There could be a person that works.

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Speaker 8: In a book store, right everybody, and they've been there

495
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Speaker 8: for twenty years, so they know exactly what books to get,

496
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Speaker 8: they know exactly where to go, there's.

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Speaker 6: The person who's cleaning up the student union building.

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Speaker 8: They're know, hey, listen, you know you need to join

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Speaker 8: this club, or hey, you know you need to talk

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Speaker 8: to Jeff, because Jeff knows who everybody is. And so

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Speaker 8: that's where, you know, we always talk about the difference

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Speaker 8: of what a mentor means. So we tell people, number one,

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Speaker 8: you need a digital mentor. And the digital mentor is

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Speaker 8: somebody that is online, that has an online presence at

505
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Speaker 8: that institution or otherwise that you know, you can just

506
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Speaker 8: watch what they're doing. And that might just mean I'm

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Speaker 8: watching somebody's Instagram feed or Twitter feed and saying, all right,

508
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Speaker 8: you know what I need to just know because this

509
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Speaker 8: person is providing a wealth of information. There's a generational mentor,

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Speaker 8: So that means you also need to know somebody who

511
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Speaker 8: is from a different generation than you are, younger and older,

512
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Speaker 8: who have different mindsets and different viewpoints that you can say,

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Speaker 8: all right, this is the generational mentor that's older than

514
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Speaker 8: I am, that's going to be providing me the.

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Speaker 6: Traditional sense of leadership.

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Speaker 8: But then here's this person that's also maybe a little

517
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Speaker 8: bit younger than I am that I can give them

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Speaker 8: information and then they give me back some information.

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Speaker 7: And then like your boy that you said at your school,

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Speaker 7: be what we call a peer mentor right right, somebody

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Speaker 7: that's in that same age range, same age bracket doing this,

522
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Speaker 7: you know, the same things that you're doing, and that's

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Speaker 7: a fellow peer of yours that can really help you out.

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Speaker 2: I'm boring, yeah for sure. All right. So now we're

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Speaker 2: going to go into the next seven. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about the financials, and we're also going to talk about

527
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Speaker 2: chill and natural so yeah, yes, I love that part.

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Speaker 2: All right. So now we're going to talk about the

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Speaker 2: number one thing when it comes to school is how

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Speaker 2: to pay for it? Right, money, money.

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Speaker 4: As we said, man, it's the it's the biggest financial

532
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Speaker 4: decision that they're going to make. And they have, especially

533
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Speaker 4: high school sudents, they got about three years and that's

534
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Speaker 4: you're making that decision at eighteen. Like a lot of

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Speaker 4: people won't get approved to get a loan for a house,

536
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Speaker 4: they probably won't. They may not get approved to get

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Speaker 4: a loan for a card, but they will get approved.

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Speaker 2: Student loan is real and something like I said once again,

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Speaker 2: I was fortunate not to have to a loan because

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Speaker 2: I had a scholarship, but I have brothers and sister

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Speaker 2: and they both have to I think they're both still

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Speaker 2: paying on it. I'm still playing myself. They're both older

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Speaker 2: than me. But student loans is real. Financial ladi is

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Speaker 2: definitely real. All that is real.

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Speaker 3: So you can't escape it. No, no, no filing for

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Speaker 3: bankrupcy on doing a loan.

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Speaker 2: Oh they're gonna want their money, thank you, so so,

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Speaker 2: But like, what's what's what's some hacks that parents because

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Speaker 2: a lot of parents listen to our podcasts and you know,

550
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Speaker 2: might have children in college or children getting ready to

551
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Speaker 2: go to college. What's some hacks that that and even

552
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Speaker 2: children or young adults can use to minimize the cost

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Speaker 2: of college.

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Speaker 7: One of the big hacks for high school students is

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Speaker 7: taking college courses while you're in high school. Now, some

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Speaker 7: high schools and some districts provide that, and they're called

557
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Speaker 7: like articulation agreements, another fancy words, another fancy higher edward,

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Speaker 7: but their call articulation or dual agreements or partnerships where

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Speaker 7: a lot of community colleges now and some four year

560
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Speaker 7: schools are trying to build upon their enrollment. So what

561
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Speaker 7: they're doing is they're allowing high school students to start

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Speaker 7: taking classes at a lower rate or for free.

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Speaker 3: So that's something to.

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Speaker 7: We look at in your in your area, your region,

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Speaker 7: your district, especially within the community colleges, your kids can

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Speaker 7: take some of those level one hundred courses at a

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Speaker 7: lower rate.

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Speaker 3: How do you how do you get going on campus

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Speaker 3: to do that? You can go on campus, so you

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Speaker 3: can call.

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Speaker 7: What you can do is you can call most colleges

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Speaker 7: have what they call like a pre college program, pre

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Speaker 7: summer program, summer academies, and look inside of some of

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Speaker 7: those programs, those summer camps and maybe don't send your

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Speaker 7: kid to maybe a sports camp in the town. You

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Speaker 7: send them to a business academy camp at like let's

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Speaker 7: say at Pace University, and then they can potentially get

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Speaker 7: credits for class while they're at that camp. So that's

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Speaker 7: the way to kind of look at it. I would

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Speaker 7: look at your local community colleges first, give them a call.

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Speaker 7: A lot of them do allow high school students to

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Speaker 7: take classes on Saturdays and at night, so that's something

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Speaker 7: that you can you can definitely look out for, and

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Speaker 7: you can go in as what they call another fancy

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Speaker 7: college where like a non matriculated student's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good word.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 8: I think another thing too is to just be honest

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Speaker 8: about going to community colleges.

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Speaker 6: So community colleges.

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Speaker 8: Are way less expensive than they are than for your

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Speaker 8: institutions are. And so if your student is not fully

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Speaker 8: prepared because they just don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean, at eighteen, you just may not know.

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Speaker 8: And at eighteen, thought I was going to be a

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Speaker 8: high school basketball coach, teaching English classes in my old

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Speaker 8: high school, and that's what I thought I was going

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Speaker 8: to do. And I went into college thinking that that

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Speaker 8: was the plan. And I realized that I didn't want

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Speaker 8: to do that at all about two years into the game,

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Speaker 8: and so I had I don't know if community college

602
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Speaker 8: was particularly for me, but I'm paying. I paid for

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Speaker 8: those two years, and I paid a lot of money

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Speaker 8: for those two years. And for some people who are

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Speaker 8: just not quite sure if they want to go to

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Speaker 8: college or if this institution is go to a two

607
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Speaker 8: year and bang out two years of college that are

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Speaker 8: going to be a lot less expensive, and then succeed

609
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Speaker 8: at those two years and then you can get into

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Speaker 8: whatever school you want.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Harvard is giving.

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Speaker 8: Away full scholarships to students who excel at a community college,

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Speaker 8: as are so many other excellent institutions, So you know,

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Speaker 8: I think that's one that's another way to minimize some

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Speaker 8: of the costs. And another thing I wanted to add

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Speaker 8: is alumni offices are a secret hidden money giving a

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Speaker 8: space you're It's called advancement at most universities, but your

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Speaker 8: alumni offices are always collecting money from donors who are saying,

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Speaker 8: we want to give money to a black male student

620
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Speaker 8: from upstate New York who enjoys watching soccer, and they

621
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Speaker 8: literally will say, that's the only way we're going to

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Speaker 8: give five thousand dollars to this program. Or we're going

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Speaker 8: to give five thousand dollars to a student who's involved

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Speaker 8: in the Haitian Students Club, and that's the only way

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Speaker 8: we're going to give five thousand dollars. I donate to

626
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Speaker 8: my school, and I give money only to the Black

627
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Speaker 8: Student Union that helps shape my career. So we have

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Speaker 8: money that we give to you have to be involved

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Speaker 8: in that club. But students don't know because they don't

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Speaker 8: always announce those scholarships. They're just there on the website

631
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Speaker 8: that nobody knows. So I tell students once a month

632
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Speaker 8: going to that office and say are you offering any

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Speaker 8: scholarships and they will be there.

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Speaker 7: And then for those people, I mean, we both did it.

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Speaker 7: We both donated and created our own scholarships. I created

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Speaker 7: one out of community college, created one out of high school.

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Speaker 7: And for those people that are watching that don't know

638
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Speaker 7: how to give back money, you can call the foundations

639
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Speaker 7: and advancement and alumni offices at these colleges and do

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Speaker 7: a two hundred and fifty dollars scholarship or a five

641
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Speaker 7: hundred dollars scholarship to help students as well. Another misconception

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Speaker 7: is that you have to finish a community college in

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Speaker 7: order to transfer.

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Speaker 5: That's not true. Every school is different.

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Speaker 7: So for example, in New Jersey where I live, there's

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Speaker 7: two things that I want to kind of put out there.

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Speaker 3: There's two things in New Jersey.

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Speaker 7: Let's say you have twelve credits in the two point

649
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Speaker 7: zero you can transfer into most four year state schools

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Speaker 7: in New Jersey. Excise me two point five into most

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Speaker 7: state schools in New Jersey. New Jersey also has another program,

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Speaker 7: and most states do have programs like this called NJ

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Speaker 7: Stars where a student maybe didn't do particularly well in

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Speaker 7: their SATs, but they're in the top twenty percent of

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Speaker 7: the top ten percent of their class. And if you're

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Speaker 7: in the top ten percent of your class, you go

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Speaker 7: to college for free, community college. Then when you go

658
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Speaker 7: to community college, if you get your associate's degree and

659
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Speaker 7: you have a three point two GPA, you can get

660
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Speaker 7: another scholarship to go finish your back degree out of

661
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Speaker 7: four year college and that'll be it in J Stars two.

662
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Speaker 7: So in J Stars one is community college, you can

663
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Speaker 7: transfer out and then you go into in J Stars two.

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Speaker 7: So these are type of programs that they have in

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Speaker 7: a lot of I just know that particular because I'm

666
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Speaker 7: from New Jersey, but they have these type of programs

667
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Speaker 7: within the states. So don't get too caught up saying, well,

668
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Speaker 7: I'm top twenty percent of the class, I want to

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Speaker 7: go to this big school.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be.

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Speaker 7: Your top twenty percent might be different from another high school,

672
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Speaker 7: so you might not get as much money as far

673
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Speaker 7: as scholarships, So take advantage of the scholarships that you

674
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Speaker 7: do have, maybe at that community college, and then go

675
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Speaker 7: on and then potentially transfer and get scholarships as well.

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Speaker 5: So it's just transferred scholarships to as you're.

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Speaker 4: Talking, I'm listening because we do this this project with

678
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Speaker 4: the kids who are going into college. Like even saying

679
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Speaker 4: associate's degree, they like have no idea. So that's traditionally

680
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Speaker 4: fifty six credits, right, and then obviously a bachelor is

681
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Speaker 4: when you finish traditionally one hundred and twenty credits of school.

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Speaker 3: That might take for four or five years, hopefully because

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Speaker 3: it's going to close you bright and you don't.

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Speaker 7: But and on top of that, you know, after a

685
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Speaker 7: certain amount of credits, after I think one hundred and sixty,

686
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Speaker 7: I want to say, you run out of financial aid. Yeah,

687
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Speaker 7: it's important, continue to go to school. They'll let you

688
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Speaker 7: go to school, they don't care. But your financial weight

689
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Speaker 7: can you can exhaust your financial weight?

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Speaker 3: That's important.

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Speaker 4: And I was going to say, like, in addition to that,

692
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Speaker 4: like a lot, there's a misconception with community college, like

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Speaker 4: you said, like after those two years you transfer to

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Speaker 4: a four year school, Like when you graduate and you

695
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Speaker 4: go into your career, nobody's looking at like, yo, what

696
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Speaker 4: junior you transfer from community college? And then New York

697
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Speaker 4: State has now like in the past two years they

698
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Speaker 4: started the Excelsi your program. So State School is also

699
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Speaker 4: a good thing. Right, if it's a.

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Speaker 3: Least, it's less than if you went to a private school.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So, if you go to state school and you live

703
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Speaker 4: in New York and you know your parents make under

704
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Speaker 4: a certain amount of money, you can have I think

705
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Speaker 4: room and board for free, and tuition's blower not well,

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Speaker 4: So that's another option. If community college is like, it's

707
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Speaker 4: not something you want to do, go to your local

708
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Speaker 4: state school if you live in New York, and then

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Speaker 4: I think the only recommend the requirement is that you

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Speaker 4: have to work in the state four years after you

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Speaker 4: or however long.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of schools are doing.

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Speaker 7: You know, if your parents make seventy thousand hours, your

714
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Speaker 7: household income is seventy thousand and knowledge you go to

715
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Speaker 7: school for free. That's something that's happened in New Jersey

716
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Speaker 7: where all the community colleges will be free start in September.

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Speaker 7: These are again, these are the type of programs that

718
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Speaker 7: you should know. But most importantly, you just brought up

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Speaker 7: a really good point. Public understand what a public college

720
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Speaker 7: is and a private college. Right, nine times out of ten,

721
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Speaker 7: a private college costs more than a public college. And

722
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Speaker 7: it doesn't mean that and it goes back what I said.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't mean that they're a better school. It's literally

724
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Speaker 7: because they're privately funded, so it's a little it's a

725
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Speaker 7: little bit different when it comes to how much they

726
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Speaker 7: charge for tuition. So it's very important to know what

727
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Speaker 7: a public college is and a private and a private

728
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Speaker 7: and know the difference.

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Speaker 3: That's important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I actually did a podcast before and somebody

731
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Speaker 2: asked me that question, and I was saying that nobody

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Speaker 2: kids like, especially if you plan on getting a degree

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Speaker 2: outside of the other first degree. So like you if

734
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Speaker 2: you know you're going to get a four year degree

735
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Speaker 2: and you go into a two year school, or if

736
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: you know you're going to get a master's degree, right,

737
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: they only care about the last degree that you have,

738
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Speaker 2: truth and that school that you went to. So like

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama is a perfect example. He went to his

740
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Speaker 2: first school that he went to for two years is

741
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Speaker 2: like some no name school in California. Then he went

742
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Speaker 2: to Columbia and then he went to Harvard after that. Right,

743
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: when you hear the stories, it's only that he went

744
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Speaker 2: to Harvard Law and he graduated from Columbia. They never

745
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: say the first school that he went to. It doesn't matter.

746
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Speaker 2: But you save a lot of money, you prepare yourself,

747
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: and you grow. So a lot of times I'm not

748
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Speaker 2: the best person to give this speech because I went

749
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Speaker 2: to the University of Hawaii. But you might have to

750
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: humble yourself and stay home right and learn, learn the ropes,

751
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: and you know, stay at home for a couple of

752
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: years and then go out on your own. Or you know,

753
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: you might just sacrifice for four years, stay at home,

754
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: save money, go to your local school in your area,

755
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: your state school. It'll you might not get the same

756
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: joy as you know going out on your own and

757
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: you know, going to a crazy destination, but the grand

758
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: scheme of things, it might make a lot of sense

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Speaker 2: the term.

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Speaker 3: That's my story in itself.

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Speaker 4: Right, I stayed home, I went to school locally, right,

762
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Speaker 4: But what I did during that time was I was

763
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Speaker 4: able to get experience. Whereas somebody who comes out of

764
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Speaker 4: school and is looking for experience, I already have four

765
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Speaker 4: years on you.

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Speaker 3: So sometimes when.

767
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Speaker 4: You go to a career or job, it's like, yeah,

768
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Speaker 4: you have this, but do you have the experience? Like

769
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Speaker 4: I'm doing that as I'm going to school and obviously

770
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Speaker 4: I don't have to pay for room and board or

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Speaker 4: anything like that.

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Speaker 3: So it helped in that way.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and also look at another point by experience. Also

774
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Speaker 7: look at the career centers within the college. I know,

775
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 7: in my junior year, my job, my internship was also

776
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 7: kind of as credits, so it could be considered like

777
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 7: a co op program. So your class can actually eliminate

778
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 7: I mean, your job can actually eliminate you taking a

779
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 7: certain class because the work that you're doing, the experience

780
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 7: that you're doing is learning learn, learning experience. And then

781
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 7: they'll give you a professor to kind of you know,

782
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 7: follow you along and then you write a paper about

783
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 7: it in a semester. And not only did you get

784
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 7: paid to work, but you also got credits which saved

785
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 7: you money as well.

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Speaker 2: So, Jeff, if you have an interesting story about J Cole.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so you know, this is the thing about college.

788
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 8: So this kind of goes into this conversation about how

789
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Speaker 8: to find money and how to be more successful in it.

790
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Speaker 8: So I went to Saint John's University and I went

791
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Speaker 8: to school with J. Cole, and you know, I was

792
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Speaker 8: president of our Black student union which was called Harayah,

793
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Speaker 8: and at that time we were the largest organization. They

794
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 8: had a massive budget, over one hundred thousand dollars. And

795
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Speaker 8: what we were able to do was I became president

796
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Speaker 8: of that. And becoming president of that, they gave me

797
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 8: a five thousand dollars stipend. So right there, I got

798
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Speaker 8: an extra five K that I didn't have for doing

799
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 8: some student work on top of the stipend. With that budget,

800
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Speaker 8: I was able to also bring in a bunch of

801
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 8: different speakers. I mean Cornell, Wes, Maya, Angelou, all these

802
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 8: people that I wanted to meet, we had the money

803
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 8: to bring them in. Now, the j colepiece is is

804
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 8: leveraging the networking opportunity. So if you're going to go

805
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 8: to a college, I don't care what school it is,

806
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 8: I want you to go in there and make sure

807
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 8: you meet as many different people as you possibly can

808
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 8: get yourself into every room. And so when I think

809
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 8: about Cole, one of the things that you know, I

810
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Speaker 8: remember Jermaine was just wrapping in the random open mic

811
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Speaker 8: or wrapping in the residence hall in the dorms, and

812
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Speaker 8: then that flipped into him getting involved. He eventually became

813
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 8: president of our Black student union. And then when that happened,

814
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 8: he always had a crowd. There was always five hundred

815
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Speaker 8: people that were guaranteed that were going to buy the mixtape,

816
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 8: that we're going to come out to the show, that

817
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 8: we're going to support him at the open mic, that

818
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Speaker 8: we're going to go out to this and me, I

819
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 8: see it all the time as we do speaking gigs

820
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Speaker 8: that I still perform poetry. Half of my audience are

821
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Speaker 8: people from Saint John's from my undergraduate career. So I

822
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Speaker 8: tell people make sure that once you get in, get

823
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Speaker 8: yourself involved, get yourself entrenched in the university, because that's

824
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Speaker 8: how you get them to start paying you back.

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Speaker 6: And that's the thing. School's really expensive.

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Speaker 8: But I'm going to find out how do I become

827
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Speaker 8: a resident assistant. And a resident assistant is when you're

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Speaker 8: in charge of a residence floor and you're in charge

829
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Speaker 8: of a dorm floor, they pay for your housing that

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Speaker 8: I did not pay for housing for three years of

831
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Speaker 8: my college career. And when you get into those spaces,

832
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Speaker 8: I was an orientation leader, which were the people who

833
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 8: introduced the people when they came to college. I got

834
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Speaker 8: paid for that. So that's where you find the money.

835
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Speaker 8: You leverage the money by the network work, by the

836
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Speaker 8: capital of the individuals as well as the capital that

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Speaker 8: the that the school has.

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Speaker 2: You said something interesting, you said that Jay Cole, being

839
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Speaker 2: the president of the Black student Union, he was in

840
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Speaker 2: a unique position because he booked concerts. So then that

841
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: opened up for them.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was. It was fascinating.

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Speaker 8: I mean I remember, you know when I was wrapping

844
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Speaker 8: back in the day, that was the same thing. I'm like,

845
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 8: I put on my little resume. Yeah, I opened up

846
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 8: for Kanye, I opened up for quality, I opened up

847
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 8: for comment And he did the same thing every time

848
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 8: we had a major artist. He was one of the

849
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 8: performers that opened up for it. And then that just

850
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 8: again creates more leverage, creates more opportunities. You get practiced.

851
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Speaker 8: And he didn't pay a dime. He didn't pay anything.

852
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Speaker 8: You use the studio that's on campus, use every possible

853
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 8: resource that they have, because they're they're.

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Speaker 6: They're taking the money from you.

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Speaker 8: They're never gonna they're never gonna say, hey, you know what,

856
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Speaker 6: Have to pay today. So I'm gonna say listen, I

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Speaker 6: want They're never gonna say that, right.

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Speaker 8: I want the studio, I want the gym, I want

909
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Speaker 8: I'm taking everything.

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Speaker 6: That this school could possibly give me.

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Speaker 2: And he was like a straight a student someone.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he was a good student from what

913
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Speaker 6: I heard.

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Speaker 8: I mean I was in in the classes with him, right,

915
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Speaker 8: but he was I mean, And that's the thing is

916
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 8: that I can't stress. And I'll say this over and

917
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Speaker 8: over again. You have to succeed in that space. So

918
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Speaker 8: do everything you possibly can to leverage every opportunity that

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Speaker 8: they have.

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Speaker 2: So that's interesting because you know that's that's culture, hip

921
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: hop culture and music. And one of the things that

922
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Speaker 2: you guys do is that you blend culture with education.

923
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Speaker 2: And you have a company called Trill and not Trill, right,

924
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: So that's an interesting name. Trill and not trial put

925
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Speaker 2: off the Texas, put off the Texas a right, but

926
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Speaker 2: a trill and not Trill For people that might not

927
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Speaker 2: be familiar, what do is trill mean?

928
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Speaker 6: So for us.

929
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Speaker 8: I mean, like you said, you know, we got it

930
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 8: from from listening to you GK. And the idea of

931
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Speaker 8: trill in essence is true and real coming together right,

932
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Speaker 8: So can you be truthful? Can you be honest? But

933
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 8: can you keep it authentic? And for us, that's what

934
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Speaker 8: we do. We're educators who are making sure that we

935
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Speaker 8: keep it real every single time that we speak to somebody,

936
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Speaker 8: and we're authentically us also at the same time.

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Speaker 6: And Trill or Not Trill started out as a blog

938
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Speaker 6: we threw.

939
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Speaker 8: I used to throw a hashtag on my Facebook pages

940
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Speaker 8: back in the day saying is this trill or is

941
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Speaker 8: this not trill? Then I said, if I wrote a blog,

942
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Speaker 8: would y'all read my blog? And you know how people do, Yeah.

943
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Speaker 6: We're gonna read it.

944
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 5: Read it right, I got you.

945
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Speaker 6: That's it. So the blog picked up.

946
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Speaker 8: And what happened was I hit up Lenny randomly because

947
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Speaker 8: we were meeting about something else, and I said, yo,

948
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Speaker 8: I got this blog and is starting to cook a

949
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Speaker 8: little bit.

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Speaker 6: Do you want to you want to maybe write about it?

951
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Speaker 8: And Lenny, with the business background, said, you know, I

952
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Speaker 8: think this could be larger than a blog, and I

953
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Speaker 8: think that we might be able to turn this into

954
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Speaker 8: a business model and a business idea to transform education.

955
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Speaker 8: And we put all of our minds together and we said,

956
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Speaker 8: this is what we are. We are going to be

957
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Speaker 8: the change agents of education. So we are the individuals

958
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Speaker 8: who are going to take this thing called higher education,

959
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 8: flip it on its head, keep it real with everybody

960
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 8: that's that's listening, a president of a school, to the

961
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 8: to the lunch person, to the student. Every individual when

962
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 8: they see us walk into the room, they're going to

963
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 8: understand what trill or not trill really means. And we

964
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Speaker 8: are a leadership institute that trains professionals that train students

965
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Speaker 8: to make sure that everybody understands what it means to

966
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Speaker 8: be culturally responsive. That's the term that that's another term, right,

967
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Speaker 8: but we're gonna put in the dictionary, right, so, culturally responsive,

968
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 8: which ultimately means that we're taking care of the needs

969
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 8: of the students. We are interested in what they're watching,

970
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 8: what they're listening to, what they're reading, what they're involved in,

971
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Speaker 8: and that is included in every aspect of the education.

972
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Speaker 7: The needs of Now you know, we're not using the

973
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Speaker 7: same thing from last semester. Every semester is different. Every

974
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Speaker 7: generation is different. There's the Millennials, the Generation Z. So

975
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Speaker 7: we able to you know, continue to be current and

976
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Speaker 7: make sure that we're reaching every student dope.

977
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Speaker 2: And I think that that's important too, because you know,

978
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: a lot of times we have these narratives of what

979
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: a professional looks like, right right, Like, so I taught

980
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Speaker 2: a financial literacy class.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about it.

982
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Speaker 2: I've been teaching financial literacy Troy. Troy has a program

983
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: every summer for six weeks for kids like sophomores and freshmen,

984
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Speaker 2: and I teach a financial literacy classes part of his program.

985
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: I went doing it for like six years. And I

986
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Speaker 2: come in just off the street, like I'm dressed that day.

987
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 2: That's how I come in. Some days I'm dressing the suit.

988
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: Some days I have flip flops and shorts on. So

989
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 2: one day particularly, I have flip flops and shorts on.

990
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: And somebody that came in to observe it, they were

991
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: a little disturbed and they they he told Troy like,

992
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that's that's a professional manner

993
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: to like, what are we teaching the kids? And Troy's like,

994
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: what what does that mean? He's like, well, he's not

995
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: he's dressed like, you know, he's off the street, and

996
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: Troy's like, well, that's one of the benefits of his

997
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: professional dues. He does whatever he wants to do, right, So,

998
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 2: and this is the thing that we really have to

999
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 2: get out the mindset up to say, like, Okay, you

1000
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: have to look like this? Why who said that? You know?

1001
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 2: There's no rules to that, like, and that's one of

1002
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: the good things I love about tech. They break all

1003
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: rules like Steve jobs wor whatever he wants, Mark Zuckerber,

1004
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: whatever they want exactly. It doesn't matter, like you know

1005
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: what I mean as far as obviously you know there's

1006
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: certain environments where you have to dress accordingly. It's just

1007
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: common sense. You don't go to a wedding with a sweat, right, Well,

1008
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: he came with a batman. But for the most part,

1009
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: it's like now we you know, this is this is

1010
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 2: what we are, right, So we were a hat backwards.

1011
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 2: We might wear Jordan's, we might wear Didas, but that

1012
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: doesn't devalue the information that we're we're giving.

1013
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: Right, And that's the thing I was like, judge him

1014
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: on his character, Like what he's wearing is not important.

1015
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: What is delivering is important. I had a gentleman tell

1016
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: me right.

1017
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: I was doing a parent orientation and I had some

1018
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: AM MAX on and he was like, you're really going

1019
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 4: to do a presentation for parents in AMX and I

1020
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 4: said yeah, and he was like, well, this isn't really professional.

1021
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: I said yeah, I'm changing the narrative of what professional is.

1022
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: And he was like, what do you mean. I said, yeah,

1023
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: the guy wearing M max is now hiring your daughter

1024
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: to be in this program. Right, that's a professional, you

1025
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, we're changing this narrative, right,

1026
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 4: So like I don't judge him on the character.

1027
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: Right, what we're delivering more important than what we have

1028
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: on you know what I mean?

1029
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 6: Well, that's why that's why schools get left. And I

1030
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 6: always talk about it every time.

1031
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1032
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 8: I remember my dad used to say, listen, if y'all

1033
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 8: aren't downstairs by eight fifteen for the ride, I'm leaving, right,

1034
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 8: And that was the test that said I I'm never

1035
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 8: going to get left again, and I don't ever want

1036
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 8: to be left. And that's what's happening to these institutions.

1037
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 8: And that's why it's important for people like all of

1038
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 8: us that are sitting at this table to be in

1039
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 8: the educator space because you know, we have a new

1040
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 8: book that's coming out quick plug in the fall.

1041
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: Call.

1042
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 6: You know what I mean. We wear kicks to work, and.

1043
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 8: That means that's just sowing y'all that we can pull

1044
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 8: up to any institution at any space.

1045
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: Y'all see their feet right now. But listen, they came

1046
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: here today.

1047
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 6: You want to see I'm here.

1048
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: Go to class like this too. It's important though it

1049
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: really isn't. And it's like because I used to see

1050
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: my college professors come dressed having it when they wear

1051
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: boat shoes and ye, but it's like from a different culture,

1052
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: so it's never quite yep. But when we wear what

1053
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: we feel comfortable in our culture, now, it's like, what's

1054
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: going on here? No, it's what it is.

1055
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 7: We're gonna be honest with us. It changed the game,

1056
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 7: you know, us wearing kicks with our suits. You know,

1057
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 7: students were legit out of college with two weeks ago

1058
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 7: and these two black kids was walking out and two

1059
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 7: African American students walking out chilling on campus and they

1060
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 7: literally stopped us.

1061
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 5: It was like, yo, y'all, y'are fresh man.

1062
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, I.

1063
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 5: Don't know what y'all hear from y'all, y'all basketball, what

1064
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 5: ch'are doing here?

1065
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 7: And it's funny, those same kids ended up in our

1066
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 7: presentation right, and they volunteered and they came up to

1067
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 7: us after they emailed us, and it was like, listen,

1068
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 7: we would love to just build with you guys and

1069
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 7: learn from you, and we can learn from them too,

1070
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 7: So you know, I really believe. Yeah, you know, probably

1071
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 7: at first people like we're sneakers the work. I'm sure

1072
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 7: people said it behind the scenes, but when you are

1073
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 7: really doing the work, and especially in the college campus

1074
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Speaker 7: and students are reacting to you the way they are,

1075
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 7: you can't deny it.

1076
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: You can't deny it. So it's been truly success.

1077
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 7: It's been a successful thing for us to wear these

1078
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 7: kicks because it puts us in spaces in conversations that

1079
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 7: typically maybe been a little awkward at first, or the

1080
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 7: students like it was awkward, but now it's it's you

1081
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 7: on them kicks a fly. Then it's like, oh, so

1082
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 7: how's that business course going? Oh it's not going to

1083
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 7: come come see me, or how's your financialad going? You know,

1084
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 7: come come see me. I'll make sure we'll get that fixed.

1085
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 4: I'd say, it's all the time, like you, that's the

1086
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 4: unwritten language, right. A kid when he sees those sneakers

1087
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 4: automatically he relates to you. A lot of times in education,

1088
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 4: they don't have people that they can see that it relates.

1089
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: I can wear Jordan's and I don't have to say

1090
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: anything to a kid for my culture. He knows that, like, oh,

1091
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 4: he wears the same things as me, so like I

1092
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 4: already have connected by him. Right, So it's now it's

1093
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: like whatever I said going forward, he's going to listen

1094
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 4: because he's like, yo, he looks like me, and he's dressed.

1095
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: Like wait, he listens to the same music. Right, We're good.

1096
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 7: It's like what we always say, you know, putting the

1097
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 7: medicine in the apple sauce. Right, honestly, it's it's also

1098
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 7: just it is not just wearing sneakers too. I don't

1099
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 7: want people to think like, oh, no, I'm gonna pull

1100
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 7: up in some off. Don't don't do that. It's about

1101
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 7: culture in general. Like you know, people complain about, oh,

1102
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 7: generations Z does this, Generations Z does that. Instead of saying,

1103
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 7: you know what, how can I immerse myself and get

1104
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 7: myself so involved with that that now I can add

1105
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 7: that to the curriculum so we all understand each other

1106
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 7: a lot better. But then also lead the traditional stuff

1107
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 7: that's in there that's important, so they don't have to

1108
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 7: be sneakers. It can be movies, it can be music,

1109
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 7: it can be anything that you enjoy. I fight, people

1110
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 7: gotta an education. They gotta disconnect from the things that

1111
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 7: they enjoy just to help people pass the test or

1112
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 7: pass a class. Now we got to add thats and actresses.

1113
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 6: Man, that's the thing.

1114
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 8: You know that kid kid just won three million dollars

1115
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 8: for playing Fortnite, right, And instead of saying, man, I

1116
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 8: can't believe a kid won three million dollars for Fortnite,

1117
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 8: you need to start thinking, how do I include Fortnite

1118
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 8: in my curriculum? What conversations do I need to be

1119
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 8: having as an educator, or as a financial literacy person,

1120
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 8: or as an I cannot as an economist, or as

1121
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 8: a graphic designer, or as a storyteller that says, look

1122
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 8: at this, look what happened here. Now let's show how

1123
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 8: we can you know, spand upon this idea. But you know,

1124
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 8: when people are you know, so small minded, what happens is, man,

1125
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 8: I can't believe you want three million dollars.

1126
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 6: Man, my kid's gonna start playing Fortnite too. That's just

1127
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 6: not do to health.

1128
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: Without his brain breaking news, spending more time and crazy.

1129
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: Did you say that? Because even my son, like he

1130
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: was telling me like he wanted to be a YouTuber

1131
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: and I'm like, let's do it. And then like peoples

1132
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: like that's not something real. I'm like, I will tell

1133
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 2: the kid that made twenty two million dollars year, right,

1134
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: that's what's real money is actually, So it's like, oh, yeah, well,

1135
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,879
Speaker 2: you know what is this doing. It's doing the same

1136
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: thing everybody else is doing.

1137
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 8: And when that kid with that YouTuber when he turns sixteen,

1138
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 8: am I going to be the one that says, hey,

1139
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 8: you should go to college and study marketing.

1140
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, now, I think he's figured it out.

1141
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 6: He should be he should be teaching the class, right.

1142
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: All right, So in the next segment, we're going to

1143
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: talk about public speaking, and then we're going to talk

1144
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: about some other things as far as get yourself off

1145
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: the ground falls business is concerned, all right. So we're

1146
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: going to talk about public speaking. That's something that's very big.

1147
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: But before we do that, I want to talk about

1148
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: something that's in the news, and that is a new

1149
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 2: I guess you can call it a scandal for us

1150
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: for lack of a better word, And so forty wealthy

1151
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 2: families in Illinois they got caught or they found out

1152
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 2: that they were they were doing this thing where they

1153
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: gave up guardianship of their kids like when they turned sixteen,

1154
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: like eleven and twelfth grade, and in return for doing that,

1155
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 2: now on paper, the kid looks like their homeless's like

1156
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: they're poor, right, and then they get a boatload of

1157
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: financial aid, but the parents are like filthy rich. So

1158
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 2: a lot of some people were on Instagram. It was

1159
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 2: actually interesting because some people were saying like I knew, no, no, no.

1160
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: Some people were saying like that's messed up, that's bad,

1161
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: but more people were saying like, oh, they just they

1162
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: just gaming the system, like I wish, I wish I

1163
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: knew that I'm gonna do that, Like you know, I'm

1164
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: not mad at them for doing that. So how does

1165
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: that work? Because I used to work in the missions, right.

1166
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'm I'm working at missions. Of course, I'm

1167
00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 7: not an expert when it comes to financially. But I

1168
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 7: know enough when it comes to finding out loopholes such

1169
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 7: as that as I'm gonna.

1170
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: Call it a loophole where parents.

1171
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 7: I even seen read an article the dad somebody parents

1172
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 7: are getting divorces right legally separating so it looks like

1173
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 7: they have one parent in the house, which is crazy.

1174
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 7: I'm not telling you to do that, but that's somebody

1175
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 7: back there like, yeah, but.

1176
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 6: We're not about to break up this.

1177
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 3: Let's got a kid going.

1178
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 7: They're gonna be a doctor. It's gonna benefit. But anyway,

1179
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 7: so you know pretty much what people do is you

1180
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 7: can also say your child is paying rent. Your child

1181
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 7: depends on how you classify yourself or how you do

1182
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 7: your taxes is the most important part when it comes

1183
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 7: to faster So you can do do different loopholes as

1184
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 7: far as you know, being a person that lives in

1185
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 7: the house and you pay rent. The same thing that

1186
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 7: happened in Illinois. I'm not saying is good or bad.

1187
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 7: I'm just saying that it is possible, and that stuff

1188
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 7: is true and people have done it for years. What's

1189
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 7: tricky is that every university is different when it comes

1190
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 7: to financial rules. So what may happen is you'll get

1191
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 7: this thing called verification and you have to give it

1192
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 7: a bunch of documents and improve. These type of issues

1193
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 7: are hardships, as they would say, there's also a hardship form.

1194
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 7: So even on the other side for people that are struggling,

1195
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 7: maybe you don't have faster because your parents were literally together,

1196
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 7: or you was living with your parents, or your parents

1197
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 7: passed away, or what your financial situation changed. For example,

1198
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 7: my mom had lost her job when my sister was

1199
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 7: in school. What you can do is before she had

1200
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 7: her job, taxes showed that she made enough money.

1201
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 5: When she lost her job, of course she didn't have

1202
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 5: as much money.

1203
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 7: You can go to financial Weight and ask for a

1204
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 7: hardship form, right, and you can fill out and explain

1205
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 7: and find it's up to financialate to make that decision

1206
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 7: and find you money. So again I'm o here to

1207
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 7: police it and say it's good or bad. But that

1208
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 7: stuff is true.

1209
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I remember I got financially it was like

1210
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: twelve dollars.

1211
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 3: Twelve dollars I went through more people. What were going

1212
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: to do with this? I couldn't buy a pack of pencils.

1213
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like create hours, that's true middle.

1214
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 2: Class get screwed when it comes to that stuff because

1215
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: they make too much, but they don't really make enough realistically,

1216
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 2: because even in New York, you make one hundred thousand dollars,

1217
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: that's not that's not real money.

1218
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 5: Like you know what I mean, who's a fifty five

1219
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 5: thousand a year.

1220
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're struggling, like one hundred thousand. You struggling.

1221
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: I told you, I mean I used to.

1222
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 4: I tell the kids every time, like every day, like,

1223
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 4: I'm not sure there's not a middle class because whatever

1224
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: somebody from the local sales economic status has, it will

1225
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 4: be subsidized so that we're on the same playing field, right,

1226
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 4: So like a kid that their parents don't make as much,

1227
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: like they're gonna get a full scholarship as I'm going

1228
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 4: to get told I was financial aid, right, So we're

1229
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 4: gonna be in the same boat. Matter of fact, you

1230
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: might be in a better position if you take advantage

1231
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 4: of this.

1232
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: I think that's an interesting conversation because I had this

1233
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: conversation with somebody who my friend, he's a doctor and

1234
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: he lives in and he looked in Wall Street at

1235
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 2: the time, and we was talking about like what's middle

1236
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: class for New York City for Manhattan. All right, I asked, everybody,

1237
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: wish your number New York City, Manhattan, und middle class,

1238
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: middle class.

1239
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say two hundred, two fifty, two.

1240
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: Fifty, I said.

1241
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: I said as a couple, I said three fifty as

1242
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: a couple, a couple, and I said to fifty. As

1243
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 2: an individual, you make anything less than two fifty, and

1244
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: mad you struggling, struggling, struggling. But so the thing about

1245
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: it is like, so when you thought out your financial

1246
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: aid form, they're doing it the same as somebody in

1247
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: Idaho two fifty in Idaho. You you even in Atlanta,

1248
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: you make two fifty in Atlanta, you you get a

1249
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: dope house like you can like you know, you're living good.

1250
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: So it's like, it's really it needs to be changed

1251
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: because you can't judge that as the sole reason to

1252
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 2: give somebody money, right, It's like, you know, two fifty.

1253
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: It may look like it's a lot of money on paper,

1254
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 2: but in all reality, you can be completely struggling and

1255
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 2: be dead broke.

1256
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 4: You're not financially you're making two fifty. No, not forget

1257
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 4: the twelve house, you get zero. Don't even follow now

1258
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 4: on the flip side.

1259
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 7: I will say if you do get if you get

1260
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 7: free or reduce lunch at your school, you should be

1261
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 7: taking advantage of finding out all the grants that are

1262
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 7: out there, pell grant, TAG grant and other grants and

1263
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 7: programs at these And every institution is different, so don't

1264
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 7: go by what you see as like a blanket answer

1265
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 7: or just one answer, one generic answer.

1266
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: Every school is different.

1267
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 7: You should rely reach out not only to the admissions office,

1268
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 7: but to that financial aid office and find out you know, hey,

1269
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 7: my child, as you know, free of reduce lunch. Sometimes

1270
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 7: schools offer scholarships to the high school and also even

1271
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 7: more important college board. If you have free or reduce lunch,

1272
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 7: you get to take the SAT and the ACT for

1273
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 7: free twice.

1274
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 3: That's key.

1275
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 7: So if you go to guidance, they have to give

1276
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 7: you that form to fill out or the paper whatever

1277
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 7: it is, but they give it.

1278
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: To you and you can go to school.

1279
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 7: I mean you can take the SAT twice and the

1280
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 7: ACT twice for free.

1281
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 4: Now, so you said two key words that those are

1282
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 4: those terms grants and scholarships.

1283
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: That's money you do not have to pay back.

1284
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 4: Like people need to know that you do not have

1285
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 4: to pay that money back that it's granted to you,

1286
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: and sometimes it's for the duration of the time you're live,

1287
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 4: or sometimes it might just be for one year or

1288
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 4: the semester.

1289
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 3: So like I always look for so many of.

1290
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 6: Them, so many out there, so you know that's that's key.

1291
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 7: And also let me tell you another trick that school's

1292
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 7: doing and I want people to know since we on

1293
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 7: this financial piece, is don't compare scholarship amountain numbers to

1294
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 7: a particular school because every tuition is different. So for example,

1295
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 7: the school I work at, New Jersey City University, let's

1296
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 7: just say I'm just still a number out to make

1297
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 7: it easy. Let's say it's twenty thousand hours a year

1298
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 7: to go to the school for four years, so it's.

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Speaker 3: Eighty thousand hours.

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Speaker 5: Let's say you get a full scholarship.

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Speaker 7: That's eighty thousand hours as an award right over the

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Speaker 7: over the four years. Another school MutS say, competing school

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Speaker 7: Seaton Hall is forty thousand hours a year, right, so

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Speaker 7: forty times for us is one hundred and sixty right,

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Speaker 7: so one hundred and sixty thousand. The school Seaton Hall

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Speaker 7: might say we're gonna give you a scholarship for ninety

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Speaker 7: five thousand dollars, right, and just she was giving a

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Speaker 7: scholarship for eighty thousand hours. People will go to Seaton

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Speaker 7: Hall because the scholarship is more, but you still owe

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Speaker 7: sixty five thousand dollars. So don't get confused by people

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Speaker 7: get confused by that all the time. They go, well,

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Speaker 7: your school is giving me twenty thousand, but that oder

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Speaker 7: school is giving me forty. And I'm like, listen, that

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Speaker 7: school is three times as much as our school here.

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Speaker 7: So be very mindful when you see those award letters

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Speaker 7: that say that the student is receiving this amount of money,

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Speaker 7: make sure adds up or subtracts well with the tuition.

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Speaker 4: Now when they receive that money, right, and this happened

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Speaker 4: to a gentleman, I know, like the money is made

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Speaker 4: out to the student right now that check?

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Speaker 3: How does that work? Do they have to Does money

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Speaker 3: directly go to the school?

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Speaker 5: Mostly directly goes so it depends.

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Speaker 7: When it's a college merit based scholarship at the college,

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Speaker 7: it goes directly to the school. But let's say you

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Speaker 7: get a local scholarship or a state scholarship. So for example,

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Speaker 7: my last two years of college, I did not have

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Speaker 7: to pay tuition because I had the internship and I

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Speaker 7: got free tuition. Now in addition that I was still

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Speaker 7: applying to other scholarships. I had like over ten different

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Speaker 7: local scholarships. I literally took the check, went to bursar

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Speaker 7: and it gave me a refund check. So I was

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Speaker 7: getting paid technically to go to college, right, I had.

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00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 7: I had that much excess fund that I was typically

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Speaker 7: getting paid to go to college. So if it's a

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Speaker 7: national merit base or merior base through the school whenever

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Speaker 7: things like that, it's usually paid directly to the tuition.

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Speaker 7: But you can you can also receive other scholarships where

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Speaker 7: it's just a check they give to you and then

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00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 7: it's written out to the Burstar office and the burst

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Speaker 7: has to give you a refund.

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Speaker 2: Got it all right? That's that's the good information. Can

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00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: we talk about public speaking because that's something that is

1344
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Speaker 2: very big right now and a lot of people want

1345
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: to get into the public speaking, spake, motivational speakers, all

1346
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 2: kinds of different speakers. But that's something that you guys do.

1347
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, can you talk about that?

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Speaker 6: We can? So I have a very we both do.

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Speaker 3: We both I know exactly where you're going.

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Speaker 8: I have a special feeling about public speakers because you know,

1351
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 8: I always go back to this Tupac quote from Hit

1352
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 8: Him up.

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00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 6: At the end where goes on his rent.

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Speaker 8: He says, you know, when I first started out, I

1355
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 8: told you all this was just about Biggie and then

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00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 8: everybody had to open their mouths with the mother f

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Speaker 8: an opinion. And when he said that, it just really

1358
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 8: articulates the world that we live in today, where everyone has.

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Speaker 6: Everyone you know what I'm saying, Everyone has an opinion. Now,

1360
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 6: there's nothing wrong with having your opinion. I support it.

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Speaker 8: Talk good talk, but we have so many platforms for

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00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 8: people who are not doing the work. And that's the

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Speaker 8: problem that I have with public speaking. So we're gonna

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00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 8: I'm here to help. I'm here to have this conversation.

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Speaker 8: But it's it's an important precursor to say. Just because

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Speaker 8: you have some quotes on your Instagram page and you

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00:59:50,440 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 8: are retweeting Gary Vee or Eric Thomas, right, you know,

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Speaker 8: and that's what happens is that people will watch your podcast. Right,

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01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 8: They'll be watching your pod, watching your podcast, listening to

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Speaker 8: your podcast, gather information, and then that person will then say,

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Speaker 8: I'm a financial literacy expert, it's like, well you're not.

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Speaker 8: And then they'll and then they want to be public

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Speaker 8: speakers and say, well I should be speaking on financial literacy,

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Speaker 8: and I say, what's your credit? Well, you know, I've

1375
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 8: been telling you about this, and I'm like, where'd you

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Speaker 8: get your your information from?

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, one of my my main resources is

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Speaker 6: earn your leisure. Then why don't I just go get early?

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Speaker 6: You know? So with public speaking, that's the first thing.

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Speaker 8: You know, if you're one of those people, God blessed,

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Speaker 8: I'm you know, I don't support it. But if you're

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Speaker 8: an individual that's really going to be providing content, see

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Speaker 8: these individuals who need it, because there are young people

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01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 8: and and and older people who need the help and

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01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 8: you have to be able to to support that. So

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Speaker 8: in our in our space, I think one of the

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Speaker 8: first things is to recognize what is it that you

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01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 8: are providing to the know, to the audience. If you

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Speaker 8: can't say, here are five things that I'm going learning outcomes,

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01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 8: right here are my learning outcomes exactly that you're gonna

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01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 8: walk away from, then you are not ready to be

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Speaker 8: a public speaker quite yet.

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Speaker 6: So that's number one.

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Speaker 8: Number two is your audience so I'm not a financial expert,

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01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 8: so I'm not going So when somebody says, hey, Jeff,

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Speaker 8: can you come talk to us about leadership and financial literacy,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 5: No, don't be a jack of all trades.

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Speaker 6: Don't do that.

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Speaker 8: So make sure that you're very specific in the content

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01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 8: that you're delivering. That's what actually separates you from everyone else.

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01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 8: Sure there are a bunch of leadership speakers, Sure there

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01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 8: are a bunch of people talking about financial literacy. Sure

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01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 8: there's a bunch of people talking about mental health. That's fine.

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01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 8: Your job is to figure out how do I separate

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01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 8: myself from that particular core group. And you're not going

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01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 8: to be able to do that if you're talking about

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01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 8: seven different things at the same time. So those are

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Speaker 8: some of the quick tips about public speaking, and you

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Speaker 8: also have to do.

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Speaker 6: It over and over and over and over again.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of us who thought that, you know,

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01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 8: just because we're funny in the group chat doesn't mean

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01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 8: that we can be stand up comedians. And you learn

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01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 8: that quick when you're a public speaker. My first ever

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01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 8: gig was at NYT and they said, we need you

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Speaker 8: for an hour and thirty minutes and I said, I've been,

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Speaker 8: you know, leading workshops in my class, and I've been

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01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 8: talking to my people's I pulled up at NYT and

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01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 8: at thirty minutes into this speech, I was done.

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Speaker 6: I'm keep it rolling.

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01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 8: And you find yourself in there thinking like, man, all right,

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01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 8: maybe I could just spit a quick sixteen Maybe I

1424
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 8: can just draw on the board.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take a fifteen break.

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Speaker 8: So you have to really have that content because you

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01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 8: got to be able to do that. And so I

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01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 8: remember that saying I just wasn't prepared, but you got

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01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 8: to do that. You got to take that first l

1430
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 8: to say, all right, this is what I can do, dude,

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01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 8: to get better.

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01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 6: This is what I have to learn.

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01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 8: How to stand, how my posture works, how my speaking

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01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 8: intonations go.

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Speaker 6: All of those things are are really important.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think also learn the power of leverage.

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Speaker 7: So a lot of people going to public speaking or

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01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 7: want to speak at colleges, for example, and they're charging

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01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 7: this crazy amount with no background. Right, So being willing

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01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 7: to say I'm going to do it for free just

1441
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 7: to be at certain locations or get things on your

1442
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 7: resume is very important as a public speaker. But I

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01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 7: also want to even say, there's so many public speakers,

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01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 7: and I'm happy to see that it's grown. But I

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01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 7: also want people. I've been thinking about a lot of

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01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 7: just I don't want people to be doers, man to

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01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 7: do more. I need more people in the classroom, right.

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01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 7: You know, if you look around the country, nationally is

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Speaker 7: under five percent is black faculty members tenure track black

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01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 7: faculty members maybe less than five And it's even you know,

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Speaker 7: I'm in meetings and Jeffson meetings and we're usually only

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Speaker 7: black person in the room, you know, And you want

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01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 7: to look at not just speaking, but finding ways to

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01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 7: change legislation, create programs, create platforms like this in addition

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01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 7: to you just being a public speaker, because our students

1456
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 7: already are being oppressed in certain institutions and are already

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Speaker 7: being taken advantage of. And the last thing we need

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Speaker 7: is for somebody to come in and say, get excited

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Speaker 7: and leave or another panel.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, you know, you know I have a very

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 8: hard line on some of these things that enough is enough.

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Speaker 6: We got to start doing some work.

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01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 8: And I don't know how many times I've been to Hey,

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Speaker 8: the seven most effective people to learn about leadership in

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Speaker 8: your community while you're wearing natural hair.

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Speaker 6: And also I don't need that. I don't need all

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Speaker 6: these panels, and.

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Speaker 3: It turns to like passive shade.

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Speaker 8: And people, I'm the best person at this, and then

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Speaker 8: everyone walks out the room with no content. And there

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Speaker 8: are these young people that need our help. And there's

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Speaker 8: a lot of us who are at working at NBC's

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Speaker 8: that are working at pfizers that are working at large

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Speaker 8: banks and intitutions, are entrepreneurs that need to say, as

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Speaker 8: we go in there and perfect our speaking, can we

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 8: help these students and build for the future. So you know,

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01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 8: those are such essential pieces to the process. And getting

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Speaker 8: paid as a speaker, you're you think that there's a

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Speaker 8: quick way to just go in there and get these checks,

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 8: and it's just not And you know, you might have

1482
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 8: all this clout, but that cloud is not going to get.

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01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 6: You to return if you can't do anything when you

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01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 6: get there.

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Speaker 2: But but what is all right? Fair enough? You should

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01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 2: have good purpose and you should be educated. Assuming you are, now,

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Speaker 2: what's the steps to actually got cool?

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Speaker 6: So I had to get that off.

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Speaker 5: Hale lot.

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Speaker 7: But I think one of the I always tell the

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Speaker 7: story I started posted on my Instagram out the day

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01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 7: I started out in the boys and girls club. Right,

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01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 7: it was a boys and girls club. My friend of

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01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 7: mine is Ron Brangman. Shout out to him, told me

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01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 7: and never forget. He was like, I know you want

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01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 7: to become, you know, a speaker, you want to get involved.

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01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 7: Said I'm gonna give you two things. I'm gonna give

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Speaker 7: you this space, but I'm also going to tell you

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01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 7: that boy's not gonna like you. Right, just just know that,

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01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 7: like you're not gonna go in every room and every

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 7: audience is going to love you. So this is the

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01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 7: space here, have fun, do what you want to do,

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01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 7: and then you know, five years later, you know, Jeff

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 7: and I are going to like Iowa State, Kentucky, Ucla.

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01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 7: But I was humble enough to start in like a

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01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 7: boys and girls club where twenty people was in the

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01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 7: room and fifteen. Honestly, will key with my family, right,

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01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 7: it's pulled up because they didn't want to see me fail.

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01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 7: So you know that's that's the most important, is having

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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 7: that humbleness, but also having an expertise. Right, So we

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01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 7: said earlier, don't be a jack of all trades. Right,

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Speaker 7: So if you worked in HR and that's your experience.

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Speaker 7: And then you also have a little motivation behind you

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Speaker 7: be able to provide that that nowledge you got from

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Speaker 7: being an HR rep or that now what you got

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Speaker 7: from being a financial advisor, and that with the inspiration,

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Speaker 7: now people are gonna want you more because you're providing

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Speaker 7: them with things and question. You're providing them with a

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01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 7: service or a product that they can actually use, like

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Speaker 7: a tangible thing. So be a tangible speaker more than

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Speaker 7: a public speaker. That's all I want to say, Like

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Speaker 7: have tangible items in addition to that, but also be

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Speaker 7: willing to say, yeah, I'm going to go speak for free.

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01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 7: And the second piece, the third piece, is having content.

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01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 7: So we started as bloggers and we blocked to a

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Speaker 7: niche market, Like we knew people that deal with students

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Speaker 7: at colleges. Their office is usually under student affairs, so

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01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 7: we knew that there was a student affairs group and

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01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 7: there's region conferences and programs, So we made sure that

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01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 7: we implemented our blogs within that audience group so they

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01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 7: know who we are. So when we had the blog,

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01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 7: we already knew in the back of our hands we

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01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 7: wanted to be speakers. So we had the programs ready

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01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 7: with the learning outcomes and objectives, and that's how we

1535
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 7: started getting more involved in the school. So when you

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01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 7: are expert, you do become you do get a niche

1537
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 7: market and it helps you get paid more and you

1538
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 7: understand your pricing and things like that.

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Speaker 3: Can you talk about the names of the blogs. I

1540
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 3: thought they were brilliant. We talked about it.

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 5: Also.

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Speaker 7: Some of the blogs that we created in the beginning

1543
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 7: were like Beyonce Beyonce and Social Change Model, Kevin Durant

1544
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 7: and Retention.

1545
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 3: I know you don't want to justin Bieber.

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, what we did what Drake can teach you about

1547
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 8: conflict management and we also did Nicki Minaj and non

1548
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 8: verbal communication and so you know, you add all those

1549
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 8: things and just give some other quick tips about public

1550
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 8: speaking is so content, So video content is key. So

1551
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 8: people need to know that you're actually speaking. So people

1552
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 8: would rather see you speak than here you speak or

1553
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 8: a photo. So get the content, and you know, whether

1554
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 8: you're using an iPhone or a camera, just make sure

1555
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 8: that you're getting content of you speaking about whatever it

1556
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 8: is that you're speaking about.

1557
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,600
Speaker 6: And that's how you can leverage it.

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 8: So sometimes you can go to a school or an

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01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 8: institution and say listen, I'll do it for free, but

1560
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 8: can you allow me to get video content. Number two

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01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 8: is whatever you speak, make sure you get a mailing list,

1562
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 8: so you want people to always know that you're speaking

1563
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 8: as many times as possible and let them know, hey,

1564
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 8: this is what I'm doing, so people will always remember.

1565
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 8: So that mailing list is really key and one of

1566
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 8: the big leverages that's going to allow you to move

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01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 8: into different spaces. Another key thing is recognizing in your

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01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 8: field or area of expertise, where are the conferences that

1569
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 8: are hosting content on your area. So for us, it

1570
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,520
Speaker 8: might be student Affairs and there's NASPA, and there's a ACPA,

1571
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 8: and there's NAKA and there's all these specific conferences that

1572
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 8: have all their specific acronyms, and you want to just

1573
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 8: be able to know which one fits. And there's literally

1574
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 8: conferences for everything. So you want to know when are

1575
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 8: the deadlines to present to submit a workshop, because that's

1576
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 8: really how we got I got in. I submitted a

1577
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 8: workshop to a conference five times and got rejected five times.

1578
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 8: Then I just paid my way to go to the

1579
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 8: conference as an attendee, went to the conference, and then

1580
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 8: met and shook hands with every single person possible, every speaker,

1581
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 8: every host, and said how do I get myself into

1582
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 8: I was friends with the person who was the MC.

1583
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 8: The MC introduced me to the person who ran the conference,

1584
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 8: and then they said, let's see your stuff. I didn't

1585
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 8: have any content, so then I had to go get content,

1586
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 8: make content, then show them my stuff. Then they liked it,

1587
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 8: and then they say, hey, listen, we'll get you as

1588
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 8: an MC first, right, and then I did the MC

1589
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 8: and embodied it, showed up and then killed it and

1590
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 8: they said, do you want.

1591
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 6: To do a workshop?

1592
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: Did that?

1593
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 8: After I did a couple of workshops, I said, can

1594
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 8: I do a keynote? They said, let's test you out,

1595
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 8: testing me out. Nailed the keynote, got the keynote speech

1596
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 8: right fast forward. Lenny and I Triller not Trill. We

1597
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 8: run the conference like literally in a five year span.

1598
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 8: I started out as somebody who's getting rejected to now

1599
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 8: we curate the entire conference and bring in speakers. It's

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01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 8: called NCSL. It's the National Conference on Student Leadership. It's

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01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 8: in Orlando this November for all student leaders. So we

1602
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 8: bring there's about five hundred students from all over the

1603
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 8: country that show up and that's how it started, you know,

1604
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 8: so you got to just do it over and over it.

1605
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 7: And then I want to add two more tips to that.

1606
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 7: Another one is one is for social media. Don't get

1607
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 7: caught up on how many followers you have, get caught

1608
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 7: up again on the niche. Make sure your niche market

1609
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 7: is following you. So we don't have a large I mean,

1610
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 7: we have a decent amount of followers, but we have

1611
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 7: a bunch of decisions makers at college campuses that can

1612
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 7: bring us in or help us run a conference. And

1613
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 7: then the last piece is writing books, right, so we

1614
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 7: talked about that earlier. I know we talked about that

1615
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 7: off camera. Is when you write a book, if they

1616
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 7: can't pay you, they'll also buy your book instead, or

1617
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 7: a bookstore can actually pay for your book. And then

1618
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 7: you can also come in through the bookstore at a

1619
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 7: college campus.

1620
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 2: So let me actual you to Let's say they email

1621
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 2: you and they want you. You know, they say, okay,

1622
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: we want you to come in. Somebody at a student

1623
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: at a student union organization says we want to bring

1624
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,799
Speaker 2: you in. What do you say, Like, do you say, okay,

1625
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: I want to come, but this is my rate to come.

1626
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 7: So the first thing you do, first thing we do,

1627
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 7: we send you a pre program survey. And I'm be honest,

1628
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 7: we didn't do this in the beginning, and that's when

1629
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 7: it got a little tricky. But on the pre program

1630
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 7: survey it says budget, what is your budget period? So

1631
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 7: then we now because we have a team now, before

1632
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:54,839
Speaker 7: it was just Jeff and Notch was a little different.

1633
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 7: Now we can kind of figure out how can we

1634
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 7: based on that budget, what can we really provide for you?

1635
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 7: And it's effective for our side as well as your side.

1636
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 7: So honestly, just being able to ask the budget. You know,

1637
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 7: I'm I'm I'm married to an artist, right, and I

1638
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 7: remember when I first used to send out the form

1639
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 7: and she was like, dude, you're not asking about the butt.

1640
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't step foot out the house without

1641
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 5: knowing what the budget is.

1642
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 3: Going to be.

1643
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 7: So do you know, just ereck any other field, just

1644
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 7: ask them and be transparent. And then I always say,

1645
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 7: whatever their budget is, there's probably it's probably a little

1646
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 7: bit higher than that, right, So then you start to

1647
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 7: you start to ask for other other little things.

1648
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: Within that information. All right, Okay, well, thank you guys

1649
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: for coming on. We appreciate you.

1650
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this is great.

1651
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,919
Speaker 2: Can you tell the people how to contact you? Your handles,

1652
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 2: your your your website, all information.

1653
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, So personal handle is at professor dot wims. You

1654
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 7: can find Traill and out trail anywhere. Just put at

1655
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 7: troll and our trail and our website is Trail natril

1656
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 7: dot com.

1657
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'm at mister Jeff Desk m R j

1658
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 8: E F F D E S S on all platforms

1659
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 8: and then again at trial or natrill. We've got a

1660
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 8: lot of really cool content coming out this fall, a

1661
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,759
Speaker 8: lot of new team members, a lot of new works.

1662
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, man.

1663
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 7: And if you also work for a company and you

1664
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 7: know we always talk about doing this work and you

1665
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 7: have the connections or you know, you can help students

1666
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 7: get jobs and internships. We know some amazing students across

1667
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 7: the country. Feel free to reach out to us and

1668
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 7: will help you. Even come in and speak to our

1669
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 7: students as well.

1670
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 3: Two hundred schools right at the.

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Speaker 6: Two hundred, I mean we're at I think that maybe.

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01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 7: More now we're closer to two hundred in US. Virgin

1673
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 7: Allan's in Canada.

1674
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Speaker 4: Troy, Yeah, man, So we're just gonna call out Patreon

1675
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 4: dot com. That's how Proud to pay program and it's

1676
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 4: been going amazing. I gotta give a huge shout out

1677
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 4: to Danida. Dania's from Houston and we had a call

1678
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 4: and she was super excited about us coming. She wants

1679
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 4: to lay out of itenterary for us. So shout out

1680
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 4: to Danida and everybody in Houston. And I want to

1681
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 4: give another one to Amaya, who actually hit us up

1682
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: on Instagram when she saw a post about our program.

1683
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 4: Since we're talking about doing things and we had an

1684
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 4: hour conversation just about what she can do in Daytona

1685
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 4: and some of the things she's doing.

1686
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 3: She put me on the game. Shout out to her.

1687
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, Patreon dot com Backslasher and Realisia. We have

1688
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 4: five different tiers. Feel free to join any tear. Our

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 4: merch is out on elisia dot com.

1690
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 3: Our website is that a construction under construction, under constructions

1691
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 3: just being.

1692
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 4: Really it's still up, so feel free to buy the

1693
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 4: merch and support that.

1694
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, man, yeah, Patreon is is a community first

1695
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: and foremost, and it's a it's a way to interact

1696
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: with me and Troy and a lot of time people

1697
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 2: want like you know, mentorship or they want to have

1698
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,480
Speaker 2: like real so you can actually have like FaceTime conversations

1699
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: with us. And it also allows you early access to

1700
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 2: the podcast. More importantly, like I said, it's really a community.

1701
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 2: We really established strong relationships with our patreons and so

1702
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: that's the way to a financially support the podcast, but

1703
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: also build relationships with me and Troy and just be

1704
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 2: part of the early leisure community for sure. And the

1705
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: merch I got merch on Ustle for your last name.

1706
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Speaker 2: We're gonna be rolling out some new merch Eyo universities

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Speaker 2: on its way and.

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Speaker 4: That means that the alumni now welcome to the alumnu.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, Houston won. One last thing is Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 2: We are coming on the twenty second, so don't think

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Speaker 2: it to o rs VP and yeah, we'll see you

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Speaker 2: guys soon.

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