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Speaker 1: good piece to the planet is Thursday. Yes, it's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and we got a special guest host with us this morning.

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Speaker 1: Yes we do. Be Scott is here. Oh yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: over the years discussing my exclusives from love Scott dot com. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: it has not gone I noticed, absolutely, Thank you already

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Speaker 1: know Be Scott got the energy. See a lot of

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Speaker 1: WoT Okay, Be Scot's gonna be holding down the rumors

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Speaker 1: absolutely this morning. So all that rumors that you usually posted,

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Speaker 1: let's do this. Alan and Hughes will be joining us

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Speaker 1: this morning. The legendary Alan Hughes. You know him from

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Speaker 1: movies like Dead President's Minister, Society Book at Eli, literally

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Speaker 1: three of my favorite movies ever. He did the fire

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Speaker 1: Ones documentary on Doctor Dre and Jimmy Iveen, and they's

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Speaker 1: got a new documentary coming out on FEX called Hey Mama, No,

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Speaker 1: Damn Mamama, Mama, Mama was Kanyema was two podcasts, Damn

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Speaker 1: There's so much to talk about. I mean, he has

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Speaker 1: the Marvin Gay biopick, doing the Snoop Dogg biopick. We

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Speaker 1: popping off up next. Tesla Figurea will be joining us.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about, so don't moves.

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Speaker 1: Stay right there. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's DJ NV, Charlomagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 1: We got our co host, our guest co host be

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Speaker 1: Scott here. I know that's right, and let's get into

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Speaker 1: the front page. Now, let's start with NBA. The Bulls

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Speaker 1: playing tournament and the thunder beat the Pelicans one twenty three,

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Speaker 1: one eighteen. I never stay up to watch the worst

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Speaker 1: Coast games no more. Yes, I'm born in the nineteen hundreds.

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Speaker 1: I need my rest. Teslin, good morning, Good morning, DJ Envy,

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Speaker 1: Charlomagne the God, and B Scott, Big Scot. Yes, let's start,

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Speaker 1: let's get right into it. Justin J. Pearson was he reinstated?

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Speaker 1: What happened with him in Tennessee? Yes, Justin J. Pearson

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Speaker 1: was reinstated. Local officials unanimously voted on Wednesday to sin

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Speaker 1: Representative Justin J. Pearson, one of the two black Democratic

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Speaker 1: of Representatives after a gun control protests on the House floor,

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Speaker 1: But we also were very clear. The interview was saying

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Speaker 1: when it comes to that politics. This is what you do.

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Speaker 1: You got the facts and that's why we trust you.

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Speaker 1: Get it off your chests. Eight hundred five eight five

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Speaker 1: Get it off your chest? Call us up right now.

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Speaker 1: Phone lines wide open. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning,

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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club, right right, yo, Charlotte, many up? Are

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Speaker 1: y'all have some park this morning? Yeah? No, I'm hyped.

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Speaker 1: Good morning? It's Tyl ya Hey, Tyl you good morning.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling this morning? Um, I'm alright listening

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Speaker 1: What are you calling from from? Best tomb Schlorida, Florida?

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Speaker 1: earlier and earlier and earlier, and it's scaring the issue

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Speaker 1: out of me. And it makes me think, what you know,

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Speaker 1: because they she said, due to quick action. So if

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Speaker 1: they didn't act quickly, what would have happened? So it

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Speaker 1: makes you think something something sudden. It would have to

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Speaker 1: either be like a stroke or a heart attack or

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Speaker 1: something of that nature. I mean, I hate to kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, speculate about somebody's health, but at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, like what would require quick action, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like so unexpected because you know, you

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Speaker 1: think you know you it's like, wow, like Jamie, you

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Speaker 1: see him, he seemed so healthy. You would never expect

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Speaker 1: a medical complication out of nowhere. I told y'all, over

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Speaker 1: the last few months, I did every single cardiovascular test

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Speaker 1: you could possibly do. I did discress tests, I wore

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Speaker 1: a heart monitor, I did the I can't remember the

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Speaker 1: technical term for where they put like the ink inside

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Speaker 1: you because so they can see inside the audi, the

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Speaker 1: calcium test. I did all of that just to make

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Speaker 1: sure and that you know, yeah, I would say, And

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Speaker 1: that still doesn't matter, because in any given moment, anything

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Speaker 1: could happen, some stuff like my calcium was seventy six

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Speaker 1: and you know they wanted to be zero. And plus

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Speaker 1: heart disease runs in my family, so and then um,

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Speaker 1: I had a little cholesterol. I mean. And for example,

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Speaker 1: like my long time podcast producer of ten years passed

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Speaker 1: away in like a month, like literally he was in

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Speaker 1: the hospital at the first of the month and was

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Speaker 1: dead by the end of the month, leukemia. I had

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Speaker 1: some type of rare form of multiple something something something leukemia.

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Speaker 1: And that affected me because of the fact that, like

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Speaker 1: you know, he was literally one of the nicest people

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Speaker 1: I've ever met and believed in me. Our last meeting

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Speaker 1: I had with him was him he got a new

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Speaker 1: job and he didn't know how he was going to

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Speaker 1: help me, but he just wanted to meet about the

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Speaker 1: potential of helping me. And he was forty I think

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Speaker 1: forty one. We tell everybody, definitely go to the doctor

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Speaker 1: and you get yourself checked out, and we talk about

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Speaker 1: you know, Charlemagne and I joke about, you know, getting

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Speaker 1: checked out, and I don't joke about it, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: we talk about it. But you know, like I said

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Speaker 1: that they found they found what two polyps and and

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Speaker 1: you know, they got him removed from me, and one

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Speaker 1: of them, you know, could have been cancerous. I had

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Speaker 1: no polyps, no, no nods. Yes, And oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: we didn't have time to get to my exclusive, but

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Speaker 1: we will be dropping a Housewives of Atlanta exclusive in

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Speaker 1: the next hour. You got friends on that show. I

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Speaker 1: am friends with all of them, ish two of them

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Speaker 1: blocked me we'll find out what two blocking when we

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Speaker 1: come next hours. All right, well, thank you be. Scott

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Speaker 1: is here, the wed and owner. That's right, And when

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Speaker 1: we come back, we got front page news. Tesla figure

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Speaker 1: O will be joining us, and of course Alan Hughes

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Speaker 1: him from directing Menace to Society and Uh Book of

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Speaker 1: Eli and so many more. So don't move. It's the

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club for the morning. The Breakfast Club. Your mornings

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Speaker 1: are never you just say old Kevin Harden, Nick Cannon

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Speaker 1: are declaring war on Hollywood. Each week they take you

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Speaker 1: ten on each everybody d n V. Charlomagne the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got our guest co

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Speaker 1: host Bet Scott with us this morning. I know that's right,

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Speaker 1: and let's get in some front page news. Teslager, good morning,

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Speaker 1: Good morning. How are you feeling. I'm doing good. I'm

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Speaker 1: distracted by Charlomagne's fan though, shout out the flame row.

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Speaker 1: You already know yes, she said to make sure. She said,

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Speaker 1: you could you use the the one where she's naked

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Speaker 1: the one behind you. She I'm using this fan because

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Speaker 1: it's hot, Okay, okay, whatever, that's what I'm using. Some

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Speaker 1: front page news. The NBA got, of course, to play

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Speaker 1: in tournament. The Bulls beat the Raptors last night one

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Speaker 1: or nine, one on five, the Thunder beat the Pelicans

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Speaker 1: one twenty three, one eighteen. Now, tell what is going

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Speaker 1: on in Mexico? Is Mexico sto. I just got back

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Speaker 1: to Mexico. I was in nine days and it was

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Speaker 1: I didn't have no problems. You're right, we all had security,

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Speaker 1: were staying in a gated place. And where were you

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00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: in Mexico? We was like twenty minutes outside of KENCOO. Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: We urged you not to go, and we did. And

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Speaker 1: the reason why is because it was actually when this

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Speaker 1: story actually happened. So I want to give an update

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Speaker 1: on that because many of you remember the story that

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Speaker 1: we saw, you know, all over social media, where the

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Speaker 1: four black Americans were kidnapped in Mexico. So when that happened,

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Speaker 1: we talked about it here on the Breakfast Club, of course,

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Speaker 1: and so there's been an update on the again. The

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Speaker 1: four black Americans that were kidnapp LaTavia Washington McGee, Eric Williams,

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Speaker 1: Shadid Woodard, and Zendale Brown. They were attacked and kidnapped

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Speaker 1: by the Mexican cartel on March third, while they were

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Speaker 1: on their way to a medical appointment. One of the

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Speaker 1: things I found really frustrating about this is online people

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Speaker 1: were kind of making up their own stories, saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: they must have been up there selling drugs and donte

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Speaker 1: and they just kind of remember that they just ran

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Speaker 1: with it. So now they've come back to tell their story.

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Speaker 1: And of course, you know, they confirmed that they were

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Speaker 1: driving across the US border, saw a gun in the

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Speaker 1: car there, beginning a shootout began. Three of them were shot,

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Speaker 1: then they were loaded into the truck at gunpoint. Now

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Speaker 1: McGee said that they kept promising to give medical attention

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Speaker 1: to the victims that were shot, but unfortunately waited too late.

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Speaker 1: Two of them passed away, and Eric Williams did survive.

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Speaker 1: They eventually gave him medical attention for his leg. Now,

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Speaker 1: both McGee and william sat down with Anderson Cooper on

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Speaker 1: CNN to give an exclusive interview about the horrific experience.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen. Were they threatening to you and violence

533
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Speaker 1: and sexual violence and they're trying to make us have

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Speaker 1: sex with each other but brother and sister and that

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Speaker 1: she was pregnant. What did they say to you? They

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Speaker 1: was like, what are y'all? We said brothers and sisters,

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Speaker 1: and they was like, have sex with each other. I

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Speaker 1: was like, no, these are my brothers. I'm pregnant. They

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Speaker 1: I don't know. They had me blindfold covered up. They

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Speaker 1: took me a little piece. We switched vehicles. They put

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Speaker 1: us in another vehicle, and then they covered me up

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Speaker 1: and we rode a little bit and then I just

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Speaker 1: know they backed in somewhere that took me out and

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Speaker 1: took me in a room and I saw him and

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Speaker 1: some more people. There were other people, people who was

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Speaker 1: capping that Mexico way just a damn minute, Like I

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Speaker 1: must have missed that part they wanted them to have

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Speaker 1: sex in the world. Yeah, definitely, Um, go watch the

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Speaker 1: full interview. It I mean, it's it's really like just

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Speaker 1: jaw dropping. And one of the things they talked about

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Speaker 1: at the end of the interview is that the cartel

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Speaker 1: said that there was nothing they could do to bring

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Speaker 1: the two brothers back. The guy that that eventually released them,

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Speaker 1: he told her, you know, hey, I know they're gonna

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Speaker 1: kill me for releasing you, he said. But he did

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Speaker 1: apologize that the wrong call was made, that the person

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Speaker 1: was high and drunk and basically made the wrong call.

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Speaker 1: They eventually dropped the survivors off at a wooden shack

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Speaker 1: where they were rescued on Mark seven. And again, what

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Speaker 1: they've done. The golf cartel has basically issued an apology

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Speaker 1: for the incident and eventually handed over other five other

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Speaker 1: members that they kidnapped to local authorities. So we have

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Speaker 1: no idea why they're doing this. They said somebody was

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Speaker 1: high and drunk and made the wrong call. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: at first they said that they thought they were Haitian

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Speaker 1: smugglers and that was the wrong call. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I have a question because when I was in Mexico,

568
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Speaker 1: people were telling me that it was certain areas that

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Speaker 1: in Mexico that they tell people don't go to, like

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Speaker 1: you know, certain places of no matter where you go,

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Speaker 1: they say, don't go in that area. It's not a

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Speaker 1: tourist town. It's not friendly the tourists. So if you're

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Speaker 1: in those areas, be very careful. Even when I go

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Speaker 1: to Jamaica sometimes, you know, my wife is from Kingston.

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Speaker 1: Like they even tell us like, don't go to certain

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Speaker 1: parts because you know, it's it's not run by government,

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00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: it's run by the local cartels, you know. But recently

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Speaker 1: it seemed like, I mean, it's like a coo poco

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Speaker 1: and tuloom, Like it's like all these shootings, people getting killed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like at the resort near the resort, I

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Speaker 1: don't don't you can't pay me to Mexico. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if this is any backlash to how they think some

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Speaker 1: Americans may feel about Mexicans because of the rhetoric that

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Speaker 1: comes from you know, Trump, Donald Trump's in the world.

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Speaker 1: You think. I don't wanted to guess make an assumption,

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Speaker 1: but I guess when we look at what's happening with

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Speaker 1: Mexico in general, you know, uh, and not not pursuing

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Speaker 1: justice or you know, if there is some type of

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to make up a conspiracy,

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Speaker 1: but I just think that Mexico was Mexico and they're

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Speaker 1: going to handle their business as such. And I know,

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Speaker 1: a be Scott, you wanted to talk about Mexico as well. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and you know Whybably on the topic of Mexico, there

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Speaker 1: has been an update on the Chicuela Robinson death. UM.

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Speaker 1: The US federal prosecutors have decided not to pursue charges

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Speaker 1: because they found insufficient evidence. Really yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 1: that's what's so disturbing. We literally saw this woman get

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Speaker 1: murdered by her friends, UM and the Mexican you know officials. UM,

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Speaker 1: when they performed the optopsy, they did see that she

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Speaker 1: had a broken spine as well as other injuries. Mexico

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Speaker 1: does want to extradite the person they feel is responsible

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Speaker 1: for her death. There is no news as to how

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Speaker 1: the US will respond to the extradition. Mexico wants to

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Speaker 1: pursue what they call demiside charges against a friend. Demisides

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Speaker 1: the crying to find his intentional murder of women because

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Speaker 1: they are women. Yeah, but right now they're not doing anything.

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Speaker 1: So to answer your question, Charlemagne, the US I talked

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Speaker 1: to Attorney Crump just about five minutes ago, and he

609
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Speaker 1: said they are demanding they're going to the White House.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to until freedom, my sister, to make Mallory

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Speaker 1: over there and they're demanding that the US does something.

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Speaker 1: So to your point about is this backlash, Well, again,

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Speaker 1: Mexico wants to arrest the murders of Miss Robinson. Why

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Speaker 1: is the Biden administration? Are they going to extradite these

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Speaker 1: individuals too, you know, so that they can receive justice.

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Speaker 1: So I want to point that out that on March nineteenth,

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Speaker 1: it will be two hundred days since Miss Robinson has

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Speaker 1: been murdered. And again they have said that if things done,

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Speaker 1: they'll be preparing to protest the White House. And I

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Speaker 1: also think that it ties into how I guess feel

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Speaker 1: like black lives are not valued as much as white

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Speaker 1: lives because if there was a white woman they got

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Speaker 1: murdered in Mexico, trust and believe there will be some

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Speaker 1: type of justice for that. And I was gonna they

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00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: totally dropped the ball. Does the US usually extradite to

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Speaker 1: to other countries like that? Because you never really hear

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Speaker 1: the US sending people out. You always hear people sending

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Speaker 1: people back, but you never really hear US sending people out.

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Speaker 1: Is that normal practice? Great? Great point, um DJ, because

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Speaker 1: that's what a turning crout literally said this morning, said,

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Speaker 1: they typically, you know, they don't. That's not something that

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Speaker 1: they typically do. Um. But again, you know when we

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Speaker 1: see something you know on tape, uh and we see that,

634
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, people the family is demanding justice and you

635
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: know again and this goes into the culture of like

636
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: will be Scott mentioned, you know, black lives and how

637
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: do we prioritize things and if there was a white woman,

638
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: would it you know, would they do something different? So

639
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: it's it's a part of a larger conversation on trying

640
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: to get some level of justice for black folks. So

641
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: it's not something that is typically done, but it doesn't

642
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: mean that it can't be something that that can't happen.

643
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Speaker 1: Gotch damn Man, Well, thank you so much. Test. We

644
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Speaker 1: go to Black Effect dot com. All right, now, when

652
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: we come back, I'm excited about this Alan Hughes will

653
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: be joining us. Man, how we used director of he

654
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: made three of my favorite mane Society, A Minute Society.

655
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: That's one book, Eli Washington and Dead President and Dead President. Yes,

656
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: and of course he has a new documenteries. It is

657
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: called Dear Mama, based on Tupac and his mom. And

658
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to him next a right, so don't move.

659
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. And our co host be Scott said,

660
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. We are the Breakfast Club. We got

661
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: a special guests in the building. A legend Alan Hughes. Welcome, brother,

662
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: Thank you. How are you, sir? Good good? One of

663
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: the legendary Hughes brothers, one of them. You're here, I

664
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: mean you're here promoting the new FX series Dear Mama. Man,

665
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: But you have such a long yeah, before we get

666
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: to the beginning. How you got into this business being

667
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: from Detroit, Midwest kids wanting to go to California, wanting

668
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: to you know, I thought we thought we were going

669
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: to be actors. These big noses and no talent didn't

670
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: work out. Okay, you know in the eighties, remember when

671
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: we have the home video boom. You go to the store,

672
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: they'd had those cameras, and so we just started making movies.

673
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: Or twelve, my mother was trying to keep us out

674
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: of the streets, and we knew we just caught a bug.

675
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: We took a camera at twelve and just start shooting movies.

676
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Not skate videos, not BMX videos, just start shooting movies.

677
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: And that's how it started tea. We were doing spoofs,

678
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, like our favorite shows at the time where

679
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: Leonard Nimoy is in search of We would do spoofs

680
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: of that, the Johnny Carson Show, and then we would

681
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: do a bunch of cocaine themed scarface type things, a

682
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of baking what is it called dope,

683
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: getting a lot of dough on our nose is doing

684
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: scarface scenes. But we eventually worked our way into around

685
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, got lucky enough to get some music videos,

686
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: and one of our first music videos was for the

687
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: spinoff group of Digital Underground, Raw Fusion with Money B

688
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: and that's when we met Tupac and it was our

689
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: first music video. Tupac was in our first music video.

690
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: So we were fortunate enough that we dropped out of

691
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: high school after a bunch of Burger king type jobs.

692
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: Landed a couple of music videos. In the first one

693
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: was a pretty much digital underground without the first connection

694
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: with absolutely It was a waffle house in San Francisco

695
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: where we had to go meet the group for the

696
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: first time. He shot g everyone's there, and I remember

697
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: being very taken with this kid at the end of

698
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 1: the table that was unknown at the time. Just funnies,

699
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: just the funniest guy. He was roasting everyone at the table.

700
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: Went to the bathroom. He came in and he says,

701
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I saw you guys are short films.

702
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have my record label hire you

703
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: to direct my music videos. I'm like, come on, you know.

704
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: But the next day was our first music video shoot,

705
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: our first professional job, and I just kept asking everyone

706
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: wentz Tupac showing up, wins Tupac showing up because we

707
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: did a little scene before the music video. It's called

708
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: throw your hands in the air, and he showed up late.

709
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: I waited for him and put him right in the

710
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: middle of the scene and you'll see this music video.

711
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: He's right in the middle of that scene. And that's

712
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: how our relationship began and what would those he's like

713
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: because you know, he became a dynamic actor. Y'all know,

714
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: became dynamic film director. Did y'all have conversations about doing

715
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: bigger things like movie even then? Yes, you know with Tupac,

716
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: I think when I think back now, because I was

717
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: forced to with this documseries, the level of intensity and

718
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: passion was always like matched with me and my brother

719
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: and him, and we were always talking about doing movies.

720
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: We were talking about doing movies together. It wasn't just

721
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: this music thing, but Tupac always kind of searching for

722
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: that father figure. Um at one point got in with

723
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: John Singleton, and I remember when he broke our hearts

724
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: because he he says to us when we wanted him

725
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: for minutes, he says, I won't I won't star in

726
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: the movie, which we didn't want him to. It goes

727
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: me and John have made a pact that our only

728
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: starring John Singleton films. We're gonna be like Robert de

729
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: Niro and scored Sacey. Wow. And but I saw what

730
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: was happening with him because he always had that like

731
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: looking for that big brother, and he made that connection

732
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: with John, and I remember it hurt our hearts. Um,

733
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: and because we had plans and that was that why

734
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: y'all never made that pack. Yall should have yall should

735
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: have made that back. I did John just get to

736
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: it first? Its first. Well, you know, John was bigger

737
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: at the time we had made a movie. John was

738
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: coming off Boys in the Hood going into Poetic Justice

739
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: with the second film. If I'm not mistaken, right, So

740
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 1: you got Janet Action, you got John Singleton, Oscar nominated.

741
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: We're just some guys that made some music videos. We

742
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: hadn't made Minutes yet. I always wondered how much did

743
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood inspire Minutes of Society, because in

744
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: my mind I can't remember how the time difference between

745
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: those movies, but it feels like they were just two

746
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: similar type of stories didn't inspire it at all, except

747
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: for one. In one regard. We had this idea since

748
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: we were fifteen. So by time we were in nineteen

749
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: and Boys was catching all this heat and this attention.

750
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: We had gotten an early copy of it because they

751
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: in music video days, you would get the film, and

752
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: I remember being bummed because the marketing and Cube at

753
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: the time, remember how massive Cube was. He just left

754
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: in wa and it just seemed everything was perfect, you know,

755
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: and I saw the film and I was like, oh,

756
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: this is not what we want to do. This is

757
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: more of a positive version, was way Gridia. Yeah, yeah,

758
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: So it just made us double down on like, oh no,

759
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: we gotta be more gangster with ours. And then we

760
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: saw a film called American Me you've seen American We

761
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: rewrote Menace. He saw that rerewrote Menace Like that changed

762
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: everything for us. What part was part supposed to play

763
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: in Menister? He was supposed to play Sharif the Muslim,

764
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: the Muslim Muslim brother and you know they're in the problem.

765
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: He didn't want to be the Muslim brother. He wanted

766
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: to be old. You know. What's what's interesting is by

767
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: the time, let me back up a second, and a

768
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: Muslim brother had a big partner in Menister. He did.

769
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't a small part. I back up a second.

770
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: When we were doing music videos with Tupac and I

771
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 1: think our relationship, our friendship, our intense friendship, lasted maybe

772
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: nine months. One day I picked him up at the

773
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: Birdbank Airport, him and his brother Mopreme, and we went

774
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: to the Paramount lot and it was the first time

775
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: he saw Juice And I never even knew about Juice,

776
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: and I just remember he had like one or two

777
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: tattoos at the time. He didn't, he wasn't tatted up,

778
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: he wasn't whatever. I remember, everything changed after he saw Juice,

779
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: after he saw himself in Juice. A lot of people

780
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: saying that he say after he changed after he played Juice,

781
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: after he saw himself in Juice. I saw it when

782
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 1: he saw it. What I didn't know at the time

783
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: was he was was aware of what the critics were

784
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: saying about him, because you get the early reviews, so

785
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: he knew going in that this was well reviewed for him.

786
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: But I saw a change. He saw script, he saw

787
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: a thing happening. Because I always say Tupac signed his

788
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: record deal three years too late. If you think about

789
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: what he represented as far as like social justice, black power,

790
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: all that stuff, that was eighty eight. That's eighty seven.

791
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: He signed his dealing ninety one, you know, for life

792
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: albums at the top of the charts, And I think

793
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: it he was always struggling with like, damn, this is

794
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: what's hot now. It's not who I am but this

795
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: gangster now. And I saw that struggle in him. But

796
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: when he saw Juice, just you can see it in

797
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: his actions after that leg I can't claim that, you know,

798
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: when you look at his death row Era and you

799
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: look at that persona, you you know some of that

800
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: must have been in him, because like with any great

801
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: performer or any great actor, you can't you can't play

802
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: something that's not something that in you, you know. But

803
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: I think Tupac was a true artist. I'm talking about

804
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: like empathic too, and sensitive and can take in anything

805
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: and become anything. Um And I think unfortunately he got

806
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: cut down in the progression of becoming a man early,

807
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, at twenty five. How if any of us

808
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: got removed from this earth at twenty five, I mean,

809
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 1: what a shame because we're not fully formed yet seeing

810
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: full frontal cortex, don't even developed a twenty five I

811
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about the pox stuff. But you literally

812
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: made like three of my favorite movies of all time.

813
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: But I think about that end scene of minutes when

814
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: you hear Kine's heartbeating, you know, and he's questioning himself,

815
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: like I can only imagine that's probably how it is

816
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: when you're dying from gunshot. You're like, damn, I wish

817
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: I would have made another choice. But I guess now

818
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: is it's too late. Like that ain't make me want

819
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: to thug out. And they say, you know, when I

820
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: was studying for Dead Presidents, call you call out for

821
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: your mama. That's the number one thing you call out

822
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: for when you're when you're dying in Vietnam, that was

823
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: a number one thing. And they say, Tupac, the first

824
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: thing he said when he got shot was he called

825
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: out for his mother. Wow. And you know that's where

826
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: I think you do go there? All right, well we

827
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: come back. We got more with Alan Hughes, whom the

828
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: Hughes brothers, you know him, the director. He directed Minister Society,

829
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: Book of Eli and now Dear Mama. So we'll talk

830
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: to him some mores to Breakfast Club the morning morning

831
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: everybody is dj n V. Charlemagne the guy we are

832
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. B Scott, our co host is here

833
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: and we're still kicking it with Alan Hughes. Now you

834
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: know Alan Hughes, he's a director. He's directed Minister Society,

835
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: he's directed Book of Eli, and now he's doing Dear Mama,

836
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: the Tupac docuseries. Did you know when you started casting

837
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: for Minister Society? We're gonna talk about everything. But did

838
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: you know Lorenz Tape was the perfect person for that.

839
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: That's a funny story about Lorenz Tape because we wrote

840
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: that role for Easy. Easy was my first real og

841
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: mentor in the business, right when Drey right the summer

842
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: Dre left ninety one. That's a long story. So we

843
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: got time. You gotta time, We got time. You know,

844
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Easy Easy, I learned. I learned everything from Easy. But

845
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: one of the things with him and Jerry is they

846
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: were always trying to keep you in the box and

847
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: control you, you know, and and they were trying to

848
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: control us in the script, and and I just had

849
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: to move on, you know. And it was for peanuts.

850
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: And I adore Easy. He was so giving and so

851
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: down to earth and by the way, great with his

852
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: fans too, like very patient with his fans. But I

853
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: see why Q left, I see why Drey left. That

854
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: there was a thing there. There was a whole thing there.

855
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: So we eventually moved on with Menace. And as we

856
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: were casting, we had been through two hundred old dogs.

857
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: They brought us in the list that were the throwaways.

858
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: That's when Lorenz they were like, you're not gonna this

859
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: is not this is not what you're looking for. Once

860
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: I yelled action, he went right into what you saw

861
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: in the movie. Wow, I was like whoa, And I

862
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: just got giddy, you know, and and and they were like,

863
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: don't you can't tell him he was there with his

864
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: brothers because he was under age. I ran out to

865
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: the elevator, got an elevator with him. Just you knew.

866
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: You knew right away because the thing I learned with Lorenz,

867
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: and I try to keep this in mind in my

868
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: career is like, don't get trapped in like what you

869
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: think the role is the way it's supposed to look,

870
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, expect the unexpecting. And that's that kid was

871
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: blew us away. Did old dog die in minutes? Man? What? What? No? Okay?

872
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: So he went to prison? Like, yeah, he went to prison. Okay,

873
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: why didnt y'all show that? I mean, they showed him

874
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: getting arrested, but always opened into thing kind we were

875
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: young and didn't know we were doing Charlotte Magne. You're right,

876
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: like there's like things that and it was like two

877
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars budget. It was a time.

878
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: We barely got that shot where he got put in

879
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: a cop card. Now we were just young and dumb

880
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: and lucky. And even with that, I thought I didn't

881
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 1: know if that was a flashback or he was getting

882
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: arrested for the murders. That was the night of the shooting,

883
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: and there was a whole scene with Jada crying on

884
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: the porch and all kinds of things that we just

885
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: cut out of the movie came being put into the

886
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: ambulance that all got cut out. Uh No, they wanted

887
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: to do a sequel at one point, like fifteen years ago,

888
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: ten years ago, and old Dog was gonna get out

889
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: of prison because he was he was a juvenile. Yep, Wow,

890
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: what would that? Did you even entertain that? Did you even?

891
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was entertaining it? And then we

892
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: ended up in new lines offices and like entertaining it,

893
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: and yeah, but I never really wanted to do it. Yeah,

894
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: I never because I'm like, how do you just want

895
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: to leave that classic? Yeah? When y'all did those lines,

896
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 1: did you ever expect those lines to continue on forever? Like? Wait,

897
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: when you hear lines like you know, you know you

898
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: know now, or you know the lines I feel sorry

899
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: for your mother or all those things, did y'all know

900
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: how far that was gonna go and how how much

901
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: impact I was gonna have on the coach it to

902
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: this damn hell No. No, there's not one line in

903
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: any movie of those movies that I felt that way

904
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: for except for and I still didn't think this. Uh,

905
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: there's that line break yourself. When the guys break yourself. Yeah,

906
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: I remember me my brother were driving down Sunset Boulevard

907
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: and LaBrea. We stopped at the light they called it

908
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: HollyHood back then because it was so cracked out. I

909
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: saw a dude slapping a dude's down to his legs,

910
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 1: gonna break yourself, right, we're just right there. That's the

911
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: first time I ever heard that, And I knew if

912
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me, he's slapping them like turning

913
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: his pockets inside, telling them break himself. I've never heard

914
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: that before, so I thought there was something to that,

915
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: But no, there's no there was no line ever. Those

916
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: are all, by the way, a lot of those lines

917
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: of menace and in Dead Presidents were all improvised. Most

918
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: of them were improvised. And Dead President was based off

919
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: the trauma and black veterans feel when they come home

920
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: from the military. Right, what what inspired that? There was

921
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: a book called Bloods that was several stories of black

922
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: Vietnam veterans, you know, and they read these stories can

923
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: to see what black veterans had to come home too.

924
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 1: There's a different type of trauma fighting that were most

925
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: of the disproportionately losing their lives as a black community,

926
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: you know. And I think we were a little again

927
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: too young and too ambitious. And if you look at

928
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: the movie, it's three different movies, it's a it all

929
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: made sense though, Like I remember being young. When you're young,

930
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: you think that's just the bankits movie, right, like, oh,

931
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: it's exciting, you see the white faith with very it

932
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: does now for Halloween. But then you get older, you

933
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: start to peel back those layers of Oh, man, okay,

934
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: he was in the military, came home PTSD, broke girl

935
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: cheating on him because he's gonna be angry, you know

936
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: what I mean, because he want to, you know, figure

937
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: out a way to get some money. So it's just

938
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: a lot of other different things you see as you

939
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: get older. Yeah, I think I think the writing could

940
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: have been better, you know, Like he makes the decision

941
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 1: to do the heist, but he hadn't gotten done enough.

942
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: I thought you know, it's finding jobs and you know,

943
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: like the beats that I know now in storytelling, like

944
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: you gotta go through a few more beats to earn

945
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: the right to be shooting all those cops. And now

946
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: you're being too hard on yourself. And I was peoples

947
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: and he was sleeping with his girls all that one alone. Yeah,

948
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: you're right, he sat alone. Girl didn't beat his ass. Yeah,

949
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: put the gun in his mouth. You know what sucking gun?

950
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington taught me something. You put that gun, you

951
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: know like Lorenz did, uh say Cutty did to Lorenz character.

952
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: I guess mistake of dead presidents was before he went down,

953
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: he should have went back and served that guy. And

954
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: you got to give that to the audience. You can't

955
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: have your hero get get done like that and not

956
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: get some form of justice. Even if he's gonna go

957
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: to prison, there's got to be some get back for

958
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: the audience, the audiences. That was a tough watch for

959
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: the audience at the time to see Lorenz his character

960
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: put in that position, um by that pimp ish character

961
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: and he never got us. You know, he never got

962
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: to get back. Now were you were you in poking

963
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: good terms? When he passed because I know you had

964
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 1: a krafuffle one day. Um no, it kind of that's

965
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: a that's a strange because he did apologize, um to

966
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: what happened for people I don't know this, you know,

967
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is the people I don't know.

968
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: I didn't sleep enough to tell this story. Um well,

969
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: he we eventually had to fire him for menace because

970
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: it was just he was just becoming a handful and

971
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: and um, I could tell it was just there was

972
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: no way for us to It was starting before minutes,

973
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: and I tried to work it out with him, but

974
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: he just, in my opinion, wasn't being reasonable. And I'm

975
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: sure he would say the same of me. And this

976
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: is between me Tupac who had that conversation? Who walks

977
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: in that trailer? It was in pre production, so we

978
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: were rehearsals where we had to several little blowouts. And

979
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: then I called him later that night. Well, he told

980
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: me to call his manager. I call his manager's managers,

981
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: like what Tupac? This Tupac let me talk to Tupac

982
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: called Tupac goes, I'm not talking to you, talk to

983
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: my manager. I said, you know, like like there's no

984
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: way this is we can't do this. Tupac Like, if

985
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: I can't talk to you, and I'm gonna have to

986
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: let you go, you know, talk to my manager. So

987
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: next day I went to New Line Cinema and I said,

988
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: we gotta let him go. Oh you didn't want to fire, No,

989
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: you wanted to work. No, I wanted to work it out. Yeah,

990
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: And he was making a lot of money. And by

991
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: the way, to Tupac's credit, he was one of the

992
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: reasons why the movie got greenlight, because they went in

993
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: green light unless we had someone a note or a

994
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: platinum artist in the film. In Tupac as a friend

995
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: find on early and helped us with that film, you know.

996
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: And I remember the termination letter, and that's what happened.

997
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: He got terminated, and there was rumors that Tupac was

998
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: looking for us. And I'm not gonna make this about

999
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: my brother, because this is the decision I made. I

1000
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: dealt with the actors. Albert was out there scouting locations

1001
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: when this happened, you know. But anyway, we pulled up

1002
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: in the Spice one music video for the soundtrack Trigger

1003
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: has No Heart, Got No Heart? I can't remember the title,

1004
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: and I saw Tupac sitting there with ten gangsters already

1005
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: liquored up, and so he knew what it was. Yea

1006
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: and that, and that's what happened. I'll just make this

1007
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: story short, because he got it, got bloody, he got

1008
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: brutal on me, and I just remember going, damn, I

1009
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: don't feel anything. I was amazed by what the adrenaline does.

1010
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: And I had to go to the hospital. Was that bad?

1011
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: You know? So there was a mutual friend, mutual friends.

1012
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, just tell them to meet me in the park.

1013
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: You know. I was like, meet me in the park, man,

1014
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: I'm not threatening you. You know, let's resolve with his men,

1015
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: just one on one. And I just kept getting um rejected.

1016
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: I said, all right. So that's when I took it

1017
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: to court and I had a real attorney, and I'm

1018
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: in the preliminary stage. I go, you know what pulled

1019
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: the MTV that moment you're talking mountain where he's threatening

1020
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: and re threatening and confess. He confessed to it, yep,

1021
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: and yeah, and say you're gonna do it again. Yeah,

1022
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: when I catch him, the traveler said, pull the tape.

1023
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: Let's show that to the jury. Beat up the side,

1024
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: let me tell the whole world. Check this out. They

1025
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: fired me, but did it in a roundabout, punk snitch way.

1026
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: So I caught him on the streets and beat date behind.

1027
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying. I can't. I still

1028
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: got when they showed that tape to the jury. You

1029
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: should have saw their faces. That's what won the case. Well,

1030
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: don't move. We got more with Alan Hughes. When we

1031
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: come back. It's the Breakfast logan Morning. Everybody's dj n V. Charlemagne,

1032
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: the guy we are the Breakfast Club be Scott, our

1033
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: co host is here and we're still kicking it with

1034
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: Alan Hughes. Now you know Alan Hughes. He's a director.

1035
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: He's directed Minister Society, He's directed Book of Eli, and

1036
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: now he's doing Dear Mama, the Tupac VACU series. Charlemagne,

1037
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: I think some people are concerned that you might try

1038
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: to paint Pocket in a negative light because of that

1039
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: situation with Dema. I remember they first announced it. I

1040
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: saw people that are close to POC online saying like, no,

1041
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: why is he doing Dear Mama? Like what story is

1042
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: he going to tell? What kind of chess would I

1043
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: be on to? First of all, not be proud of

1044
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: like the icon he's become, and why would I want

1045
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: to If anything, the reason why I took the job

1046
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: was I want to understand him more. You go around

1047
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: the world Africa, South America, Asia, Europe. You see that mural,

1048
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: you see you don't see anyone around the world like that.

1049
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't give cool. It is like you don't see

1050
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: him in Africa like you see Tupac. And I always

1051
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 1: looked when I was traveling, like, oh man, I wonder

1052
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: he's the strange paradoxyl I can use that word twentieth

1053
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: century figure that you can project anything you want to

1054
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 1: love or fighter saying center hoh it, philosopher, violence, whatever

1055
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: you want to see, you'll see in Tupac. You know,

1056
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: I've noticed that a bomb. He's almost biblical in that way.

1057
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: I say too, like tupacts on like your grandma has

1058
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: m ok JFK and Jesus over there Tupos on that

1059
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: other wall. So you gotta be real mindful when you're

1060
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: dealing with something like that. Break down, break down what

1061
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: it is for people that don't know, is it a

1062
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: mini series? Is a document series? Is it weekly? So

1063
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: for people that don't know, it's a documenteries. Five parts

1064
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: and it's the first week April twenty first it drops

1065
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: on FX, the first two episodes come out that night,

1066
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: and then the next day and Hulu streaming, and then

1067
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: a week the week. How hard is it to gather

1068
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: all of these different stories together the film, because it's

1069
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: not just Pockets as mother as well, right, So yeah,

1070
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: how hard to gather these stories? It's very difficult because

1071
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: it's like with on the Affany side, there was virtually nothing,

1072
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: no footage, very little pictures, and she's got a rich history,

1073
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: especially obviously her Panther years and what she was on

1074
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: trial for with the Panther twenty one. They were facing

1075
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty years for allegedly trying to bomb

1076
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: all kinds of things in New York and a Faney

1077
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: represented herself, which is bold to say the least. So

1078
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: it's it's it's very hard to difficult to go back,

1079
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: and you know, you have to do it like an excavation.

1080
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: You're trying to find things. But we fortunately found a

1081
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: lot of footage, not a lot enough on her and

1082
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: enough photos that hadn't been seen, enough stuff with Tupac

1083
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: that hadn't been seen. And the one thing that was

1084
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: odd was there was no footage of them together, of

1085
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: him and his mother together, none, not even as a

1086
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: young boy. No footage there may have been. There's five

1087
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: pictures of the two of them. Five do you know

1088
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: why did they ever say? Why did you get an

1089
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: understanding of why? Just that odd LaToya and Michael thing?

1090
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know there was so I would go

1091
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: back to the music videos for other reasons. I would

1092
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: get the outtakes. I always do that. Let's get the outtakes.

1093
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: Let's find the moment before the moment, the moment after

1094
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: the moment. And I found and I get around video

1095
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: a lunch break that they shot a barbecue and there

1096
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: he is sitting when his mother eating barbecue. And it's

1097
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: in the Film's only like fifteen seconds, but it's the

1098
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: only time you see them too together. I got a

1099
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: couple more question exactly, you gotta go, what's going on

1100
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: with to Marvin gay biopick, that happens. We'll see, let's see,

1101
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: we'll see doctor dre and do let's see, we'll see.

1102
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: It's it's, it's, it's it's a little more complicated. We

1103
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: got the script. It's a great script, but a funny

1104
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: little thing happened on the way to the bank. Uh.

1105
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: Snoop Dog came to me to do it with his

1106
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: BIOPICCK and that, and that's being fast tracked right now.

1107
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: Marvin is ready, but there's some elements that need to

1108
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: get in place. That's one of the ones. You can't

1109
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: know what's love got to do with it, Like you know,

1110
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: part of the part of the challenge for me was

1111
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: when Snoop came to me with his biopic and I

1112
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: saw that universal was that enthusiastic about getting it done

1113
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: right now, and I saw that I could tell an

1114
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: inspiring story, but go back to the hood. I go,

1115
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: you know what, this is probably smarter for me to

1116
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: do first because there's something I'm familiar with, the music,

1117
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: the culture. Let me do this first, and and not

1118
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: just jumping into Marvin. You know, um, you got a

1119
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: thread a needle and you know that I think was

1120
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: Snoop in his story. It's more innate to me. And

1121
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, let me get those reps in, let me

1122
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: get this out right now, because Marvin is like a

1123
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: whole nother ball game. You have talent attest to it.

1124
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: Y'all know who's gonna play Marvin h no Okay, no,

1125
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: we we think we know, and but you know, and

1126
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: I prefer being unknown Marvin. And how much of the

1127
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: snooper y'all done? How much of it? Yeah? Script is

1128
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: in this month and we're meant to be shooting at

1129
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: the end of the summer. That movie gotta be minutes

1130
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: to society Boys in the Hood type. But it starts

1131
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: that way. Okay, it starts that with stupid dupe was

1132
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: because remember everything, he goes through the death Row and

1133
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 1: then he buys it back and owns it, which is

1134
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the ninety but you

1135
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 1: gotta do all that. But murder was the caase that's

1136
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: what you want to go back to us crack dealing.

1137
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: But it has to end with him buying the catalog

1138
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: and owning Death Row. You know what's funny you said

1139
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: that I hadn't thought about that. Yeah, him and him name,

1140
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: not having his masters and all that, and then coming

1141
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: back to him owning it, you know what snoop recently,

1142
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if I'm out in

1143
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: this right now, but you know, listen, I adore this guy,

1144
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: like this dude is so special, so grounded, such a

1145
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: great listener, such a great I mean, he's a sage.

1146
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,959
Speaker 1: He gave doctor Dre the Chronic bank. Oh, I didn't

1147
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know that he bought the whole

1148
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: death Row, gave Dre the chronic, gave it to him.

1149
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: I said, Snoop, who does that? Michael Jackson, who do

1150
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: you do that with? You know, Michael had got the

1151
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 1: Sony the half of Sony Publishing because he had to

1152
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: beat those catalogs. It was Sony ATV. And I think

1153
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: he gave him back the little Richard if I'm not mistaken.

1154
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I hadn't heard that. He definitely get Paul back.

1155
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: He did mostly black. I definitely know it was a

1156
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: little Richard. I forgot when Snoop did Death though. I

1157
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: was like, wow, wow, you gave it to him. Um,

1158
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: how come it seems like the essence of those movies

1159
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: Minutes of Society, Dead Presidents. Why can't we capture that? Now?

1160
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: I don't feel like anybody can capture the essence of

1161
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: those great nineties films. Now. Maybe I'm just old na

1162
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: not stuck in my waists, but I just don't feel

1163
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: like nobody captures those anymore. I don't get feelings the same,

1164
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: especially especially with black. Well when you see when you

1165
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: see black entertainment right now, I'm gonna go somewhere with this,

1166
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: and you see all the sharpie beards, don't insult vent

1167
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. You look back and watch a show like

1168
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: White Shadow and you see the way that their hair

1169
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: and how real it was, or Cooley High, you know,

1170
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: nineties it was like an offshoot of that where there

1171
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: was just a natural, like analogs salt of Earth thing,

1172
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: and we've all become so like groomed and meticulous. And

1173
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: that's part of the challenge, you know, like the culture

1174
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: has changed, you know, and things look different and things

1175
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: feel different. So I think the best one can do

1176
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: is go back and make a period piece and try

1177
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: to be as true to that period. If you're gonna

1178
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: make a movie about the nineties or the eighties or

1179
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: the seventies or the fifty whatever it is. But to

1180
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: make a contemporary black film right now, it's gonna be

1181
00:58:54,400 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: sharpies and you know, Beijing and damn envy us a run.

1182
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: It's a running thing. Which story would you want to tell? Now?

1183
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't just see what I want to dedicate myself

1184
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: to now, because I see what's happening in the culture.

1185
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: It's just like incredible black stories, journeys and do what

1186
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: you just said, Like, how can I now know what

1187
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: I know now at fifty one and coming into my prime?

1188
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: How can I, you know, give back and and tell

1189
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: inspiring stories. I think it'd be dark and edgy and whatever,

1190
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 1: you know. But there's there's a lot of black stories

1191
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: being told now, a lot of and nobody wants to

1192
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: say that because it's not a lot of them. It's

1193
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: a lot of them being told, but not enough for us,

1194
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: I guess to be critical of them, that's right, you

1195
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So because certain movies come out

1196
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: and I'll just be like, I'm not gonna say nothing. Yeah,

1197
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to impact the sales or the ratings

1198
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: or anything. You know. Well, I will stay to say

1199
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: this because this, this takes time. I think the challenge,

1200
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, uh, in our culture and our cinema is

1201
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: we compete with one another instead of competing with what

1202
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: came before us or what it is considered the standard.

1203
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: And so black cinema they are like a handful of

1204
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: like truly greats, don't get me wrong, but in order

1205
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: for us to really really you know, achieve excellence. You

1206
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: gotta look at the typicals whatever Scorsesey Coppola, James Cameron, whoever.

1207
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: You know, you have to press yourself up against those guys,

1208
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: those those ladies, and like figure out what it is

1209
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: and do your homework, you know, and and don't try

1210
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: to just speak to your own community. Try to be

1211
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: transcendent or attempt to be transcendent to well said well,

1212
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: Alan Hughes, make sure you check out Damn Mama. You

1213
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: can see it everywhere on the twenty first on FX

1214
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: and it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Scott. Don't either

1215
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: one of y'all know what y'all saying. No, no, wait

1216
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: a minute, that said on that one song, that that

1217
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: part and uh, I'm throwing it way back when snow

1218
01:00:53,080 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: set on Informa and farm. Black people just love make us.

1219
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: Why not morning, everybody. We are the Breakfast Club. We

1220
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: got our co host be Scott with us. Absolutely and

1221
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: let's get to the rooms. What we're talking about? Oh

1222
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: my goodness, So we have an exclusive for you. This

1223
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: is a Housewives of Atlanta exclusive. This hey have been

1224
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: asking quite some time on the Breakfast Club. I had

1225
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: he goes a little stuff like this. Absolutely. I know

1226
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: you guys call this a room report, but this is

1227
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: now tea time would be Scott. There it is and

1228
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: so okay. So we for the last three years we

1229
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: had exclusively on love be Scott dot com the new

1230
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: trailer for Housewives of Atlanta, and this year was no different.

1231
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: And this year it is explosive. Okay, And I'm want

1232
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: to play a little clip of it. He crazy right

1233
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: now because you let it go the body, mind, soul

1234
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: can heal it? Sauce Ruster Dora husband Ralph Pittman vows

1235
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: for the voice top story. Baby, are you ready to

1236
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: talk about Ralph? Yeah? You break it down, break it down,

1237
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: break it down, break it down. And so the first

1238
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: part of that, you heard Candy and Marlow get into

1239
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: a really, really heated exchange. Anytime you hear Candy gar

1240
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I love Candy, I love you, Candy,

1241
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: don't do it. Um. So she got really upset and

1242
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: they went to a new low. So basically what happened

1243
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: was and also I want to say this, the reason

1244
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: why Bravo came to me and gave me these trailers

1245
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: is because they were sick and tired of me telling

1246
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: everything that's going on in the season. But shouldn't they

1247
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: want that. No, they didn't want me to tell everything

1248
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: beforehand and completely um, but because I want them to

1249
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: know the peace treaty is off. Because they try to

1250
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 1: do some funny business about this trailer and still trying

1251
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: to tell me what time it is. No one tells

1252
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: be Scott what time it is the funny business basically,

1253
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: like you know, they upset that. You know, well, initially

1254
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: because we broke two married and medicine exclusives. They told

1255
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: me they were going to take the trailer somewhere else

1256
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: and I said, if you did that, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: to war. And when I said go to war, it

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Speaker 1: means that I will recap every episode of the show

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Speaker 1: before the show comes out that talk Scott. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: My sources are extensive. It's not just Housewives. I have

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Speaker 1: executives production where we want to go with just a show,

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Speaker 1: just thank you and to be honest, you know, and

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Speaker 1: why are we letting the chop a fly? Andy Cohen

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Speaker 1: does not need to be hosting the reunions for black shows.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't I have the cultural relevance. And it's not

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Speaker 1: me being disrespectful to Andy coin. But you can't use

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Speaker 1: your white privilege to sit there and talk down to

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Speaker 1: people who need that job, especially black women. Okay, because

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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the finesse. You can't finesse our culture.

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Speaker 1: Either you're a part of it or you're not. And

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Speaker 1: Andy can choose not to make that decision because he's

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Speaker 1: an executive produce all of that. Absolutely, so be Scott

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Speaker 1: should be hosting the reunion show. Yes, okay, yeah, because

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Speaker 1: no one has an extensive you know, history with the

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Speaker 1: Housewise as I didn't. It doesn't the franchise I do.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't have to be a reunion show. It

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01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: could be like a show every RecA recap show, recap

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Speaker 1: showy about it every week. If you come on right

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Speaker 1: after the episode, right after the episode, she interviews, well,

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Speaker 1: be Scott interviews to cast new all that other stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know why that's interrupted because there's so much conversation

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01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: that happens about these shows on social media, because why

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01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't you just have a show on your network just

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01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: carries that conversation to television. And think about this. When

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Speaker 1: the first show first started, I had the Housewives on

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01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: my YouTube channel. I was interviewing Housewise Mariah Carry, Jennifer Lopez,

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01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: and the list goes on way back when before it

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01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: was even the thing. Now people are like, oh, I

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: got celebrities on YouTube. Ben done that, you said two

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01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: people had you block. But we got to get to

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01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: why the thing that interaction they were having, so they

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01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: went to a new low. So basically, Marlowe brought up

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01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: about um, the shooting that happened at Candy's restaurant. Candy

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01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: got upset, went into the and then said and then said,

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01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: um brought up Marlowe's history, criminal history, and then the

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Speaker 1: fact she slashed a girl in the face who later

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Speaker 1: committed suicide. That got real low somebody somebody talking about

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was just like I think they were

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: just having a moment to kind of recenter themselves. Um.

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: And then the other exclusive of should I just keep

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Speaker 1: it for the other part, Well, the other component of

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01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: this is that in Portugal they had your group trip

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: and there is a recording, so one housewife recorded another housewife,

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01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: UM having discussion about that housewife kissing another woman on

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: the show. So there you don't understand that because I

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01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: was confused, and that's the reason why I'm giving broad

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01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: But just a little bit because I don't want to

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01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: say who the people were that did the recording and

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01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: what was you know, I'm gonna give a little bit

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Speaker 1: the reason to watch the show, but that is exclusive.

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01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: They went to New Lows and I can't wait to

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01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: see it. I don't watch the show, but I took

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: a sip of that tea and I was like, you know,

1314
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: give me another simple sound, not not before we go.

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Speaker 1: You know, earlier you were telling about two people as

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Speaker 1: you blocked, two people that have got me blocking. You

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01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: were telling me that one of them called today to

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01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: try to get back on the show. Get one of

1319
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 1: them was here in town this week and wanted to host.

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Speaker 1: You know, and let me to say this. I want

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01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: to say this for the record, Nini is the all

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: time funniest housewife. She has the comedic quality that no

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Speaker 1: one else has. Of course, we are also, regardless of

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01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: whether she said so or not, we're friends. So how

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01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: it got started was she got on the show. Even

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Speaker 1: though I know Nini the longest, we are friends. I've

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: hung out with her so many times, she said we

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Speaker 1: weren't friends on the show. So by the time the

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01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: information got to me that she was fired, I said

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01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 1: run to hell out of it, and then when I

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,959
Speaker 1: did so, blocked me. I'm not friends anymore. No, well

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Speaker 1: I still, I mean, I still have love for her.

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01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: She was not wrong about Bravo. She went about it

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: the wrong way. That's all I got to say. So

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Speaker 1: when was the last time I spoke to Ninny years now?

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Speaker 1: Damn it, man, don't sound like your friends. And then

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Speaker 1: the other one is Porscha. She blocked me because I

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01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: put out the exclusive about how she got her Peach

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01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: cobbo by Bolo, Peach cobbold By, she got it in

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: smashed cold, got it Peach Cobboler. Don't hit dump for that.

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01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: See that you doing on the dump? But I got

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01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: love for Nini and Porscha and they should unblock me

1343
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: and I would love to have them both back on

1344
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta. You should speak to Nini, I should

1345
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: Pa and Portion And if I had slept with Bola,

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01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: I would just say, yeah, I did it. Porsche should

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01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: have owned it. She so this with things. Bolo, the stripper,

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01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: the hung stripper, the stripper from like switched out the

1349
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: tea ding one kind of tea, y'all just switched So

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Speaker 1: Bolo was a couple of years ago. Remember it was

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Speaker 1: the rumor that the stripper came. Everybody was drunking in

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01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: the stripper smashed somebody. She is allegedly saying that Porsches

1353
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: and I was the one behind that, so that's why

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: she blocked me. I like her sheets too, she had sheets.

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01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: I like her. She's getting some part on my right.

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Speaker 1: The sheets is really good as got ain't wash the

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Speaker 1: pamper by Porsche. Okay, all right, well we got more room.

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Speaker 1: He's gotten a little bit. Charlotae whore giveing that donkey

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Speaker 1: to Yea. You don't gin't gonna better than Netty. No,

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01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: it probably won't. But for after the hour. Former SNL

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Speaker 1: star Victoria Jackson, she needs to come to the front

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Speaker 1: of the congregation. We like to have a word with her,

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Speaker 1: all right. We'll get into that next. It's a breakfast

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Speaker 1: local one, all right, So Breakfast Club, Your mornings will

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Speaker 1: never be the same. Introducing the game, a new single

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Speaker 1: from the Locks, Rick Ross and Fat Joe. This track

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Speaker 1: is more than just a tribute for hoops culture, It's

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Speaker 1: a lifestyle. Find out more at DraftKings dot com. Slash

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Speaker 1: the Game available now on all major streaming platforms. This

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Speaker 1: is a miracle, there is no question, and there are

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Speaker 1: problems in this country between police and community. Yes, you

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Speaker 1: are a donkey. The latest on that police killing of

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01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: a black man not a new developments in the deadly

1374
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: spawshooting rampage. It was a really bad day for him

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Speaker 1: and this is what he did, and so we are

1376
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: in a state of emergency. Okay. White supremacist violence is

1377
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: always have been the number one threat to axicide. But

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Speaker 1: I'm also very proud that my wife was white. The

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01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: breakfast club, bitches, please tell me why was I your

1380
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 1: donkey of the day? Wow, Donkey of to Day for Thursday,

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01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 1: April thirteenth goes to a form An SNL star named

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Speaker 1: Victoria Jackson. Never heard of her and tell this story,

1383
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: but she was a cast member on SNL for six

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Speaker 1: years between nineteen eighty six and nineteen ninety two, and

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Speaker 1: I suppose she resides in Franklin, Tennessee, because she decided

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Speaker 1: during a council discussion on Tuesday to try her best

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Speaker 1: to stop a gay parade from taking place in Franklin. Yes,

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01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: the parade needed a special event permit for the occasion,

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Speaker 1: and during Tuesday's conference, it was agreed the celebration had

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Speaker 1: been given approval, but Victoria put up a fight. Oh yes,

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Speaker 1: this human jar Hellman's Mannas did her best to convince

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Speaker 1: the counsel of why Franklin having a pride parade was

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01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: a bad idea. No, seriously, she's not just against homosexual

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Speaker 1: she apparently doesn't like pride period. Oh I can't make

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Speaker 1: this type of stuff up. Listen, Victoria Jackson. God hates sodomy,

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Speaker 1: He hates homosexuality, he said it's an abomination, and he

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Speaker 1: hates God hates sexual immorality all kinds or an occasional

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01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: adult tricks are And God hates pride like one of

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Speaker 1: the most things. He hates his pride Proverbs eleven twelve.

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Speaker 1: When pride comes, then comes disgrace, But with humility comes wisdom.

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01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: The Lord detests all the proud of heart. Be sure

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01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: of this, they will not go unpunished. And sodom and

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01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: Gomorrah proves that God hates sodomy and sexual morality and pride.

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Speaker 1: I just want to encourage this generation not to be brainwashed.

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01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,480
Speaker 1: Why would it comes to some religious folks, especially Evangelicals

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01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: and Christians. They can say God hates everything except for hate,

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01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: like God hates hates, God hates blacks, God hates you know, Latinos,

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01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 1: God hates gluten. But when it comes to racism, okay,

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01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: white supremacy, any form of prejudice which they are clearly displaying,

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Speaker 1: God has no hate towards that. And look, I'm no

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01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 1: Bishop TD Jakes, I'm no Sarah Jakes and Torrey Roberts

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01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: lut to the First Family of Faith, though love them,

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01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm not any of them clearly, but I am almost

1414
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,480
Speaker 1: positive that this human keg of craft mandate is totally misinterpreted.

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Speaker 1: Proverbs eleven twelve. Okay, when pride comes, then comes disgrace.

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01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 1: But what humility comes wisdom. The Lord detest all the

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Speaker 1: proud of heart. Be sure of this, they will not

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Speaker 1: go and punish. Listen, there's three types of pride. Okay,

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01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: you have superiority, you have arrogance, and you have dignity. Okay,

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01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: some say conceit, arrogance or superiority. You know, you have

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01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,959
Speaker 1: the kind of pride that is based in self centeredness,

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Speaker 1: and that's destructive. Selfish pride is especially destructive the relationships,

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Speaker 1: because the opposite of loving others is not hating them, okay,

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01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,560
Speaker 1: but simply being self centered victoria. Not only are you

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: doing the opposite of loving others, doing the opposite of

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Speaker 1: love thy neighbor as thy self. You are showing superiority

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01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: and arrogance for people who are simply expressing pride in

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01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: who they are. That's what dignity is. The actual definition

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01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: that dignity is the state or quality of being worthy

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,759
Speaker 1: of honor or respect. Dignity is a sense of pride

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01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: in oneself self respect. So Black pride, Gay pride, Latino pride,

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: it's simply showing a sense of pride in oneself. Okay,

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01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: that's it. See American pride, all right. When you hear

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01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: people say I'm proud to be an American, it's usually

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01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 1: rooted in superiority, okay, white superiority, in Anglo Saxon arrogance.

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01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: That will cause you to stand up and tell someone

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01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: who's proud to be who they are and wants to

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: hold a parade to celebrate who they are, you know,

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01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: the pride that God actually hates. Okay, we'll make you

1440
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 1: feel superior to those individuals and have you tell them

1441
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 1: God hates them for who they are. You don't even

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01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: know what pride means for real, for real Victoria. Okay,

1443
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 1: not gay pride, pride to rock. You probably think the

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01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: Proud Boys are shining examples of the type of pride

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: God loves. But that's another another story. Now, be Scott,

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01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 1: I feel you have thoughts. I mean, you almost made

1447
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: me want to shout. That was I mean, Charlotta Magne,

1448
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: that was quite quite the spill right there. I just

1449
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: think that she much like you know, she left SNL

1450
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: right to for a sitcom and didn't get picked up,

1451
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: just like her face. Jesus. So, I'm so tired of

1452
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: people who look like that having any opinion on my community.

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01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: Pick up your face. Pick your face up first before

1454
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 1: you come over here telling me what I should and

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01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: should not be doing. Please, let Remy Mark give form

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01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: an SNL star Victoria Jackson the biggest heh heh heh,

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01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: you stupid motherfuck you gotta use that one. That's good.

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: That's your face, your face before you got anything to

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Speaker 1: say about me, anything about your face. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for that, Donkey of the dame. All right, now,

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Speaker 1: when we come back, let's open up the phone lines

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Speaker 1: eight hundred five eighty five, one oh five one. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk colleges. Oh yeah, there was an article in a

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Speaker 1: business inside even though I didn't go to college. Well,

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01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: there was a good article in Business inside, all right,

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01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: and they were saying, the majority of Americans now think

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01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: getting a college degree isn't worth it. That's right. Forty

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01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: two percent of people say, uh, forty two percent of

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: people with college degree and said it didn't end up

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01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 1: being worth getting. Right, And now they say that fifty

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 1: six percent of Americans now say a four year college

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01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: degree isn't worth the car. So let's talk about it.

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01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: I would assume because it didn't translate in the dollars

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01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 1: for some people. Maybe, yeah, I mean college is very expensive,

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01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: you know. And we'll talk about it when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred five A five one oh five one. I

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01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: will say, and I've been saying this for a long time.

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01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 1: I think going to high school and going straight to

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: college is you said, we're gonna talk about it. We

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01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: talking about it when we come back. People have something.

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01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 1: We have to be on time for BT and we

1482
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: have to practice good habits. Could you stop go to commercial?

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01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: That sound right? Being on time for BT? What the point?

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01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 1: All right? Right? What we'll talk about it when we

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01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna we're a little late anyway, so

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01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: now that makes sense. Eight hundred five eight five one

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01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: on five one, we'll talk about it. It's the Breakfast

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01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:51,680
Speaker 1: Club Warning Breakfast Club in v Charlemagne, the guy we

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01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club out co host B Scott is

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01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: here and we're opening up the phone lines. Eight hundred

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 1: five eight five one oh five one. We were talking

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01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 1: about something we've seen in the Business Insider where they're

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: saying the majority of Americans now I think a college

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01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 1: degree isn't worth it, and they said fifty six percent

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01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: of Americans now say a four year college degree isn't

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01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: worth the cost. And I was saying that I got

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 1: my degree of course from Hampton University HBCU shot everybody

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01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: at all at Hampton and Lums. I would say, I

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01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: think that students should take some time off before they

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01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: go to college. And I'm gonna tell you why. When

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01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: I went to college, and as most students go to college,

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01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: a lot of them go to pass. They just want

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01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: to get their degree and get out. And that's what

1504
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 1: I did. I got my degree and got out. But

1505
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 1: now realizing there's so many classes and courses that I

1506
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: should have really listened to because it would have helped

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01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: me in you know, life, in life, you know what

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean. And I wish I could go back to

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01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: those courses. And I tell my daughter, who's an NYU

1510
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: now that you know, take those classes serious. Just don't

1511
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: study to pass study to actually learn whether it was accountant,

1512
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,560
Speaker 1: whether it's business, whether it's marketing and management. Now, I

1513
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: didn't get my degree in communications. I got my degree

1514
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 1: in marketing and management, which I use in my career

1515
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: because I always said I was going to have money

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01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: going in high school. I just needed to know how

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01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: to keep it, how to invest it, and that's what

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01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: college taught me. But I tell kids to take time off.

1519
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: When I tell kids what courses, they should say because

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01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: I think they got to figure out and learn what

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01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: they want to do. You know, I think if you

1522
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: take that time off, maybe jump into the workforce a

1523
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 1: little bit, then you can really understand what you want

1524
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 1: to do. Because most people don't know what they want

1525
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 1: to do. They go college, They go to college and

1526
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: just try to figure it out. That's interest, you know.

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01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: I tell my daughter, my daughter's fourteen now she's a freshman.

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01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: I tell her now that, you know, even if she

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: doesn't know what she wants to do, even even though

1530
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: she does. I think going to college is a good

1531
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: thing to do until you figure it out, because yeah,

1532
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: because you're not wasting time, Like at least you'll have

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01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 1: a degree after those four years. I didn't go to college,

1534
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, even though I am a doctor honorary doctor

1535
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 1: from South Carolina, but I didn't go to college. But

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01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I feel like that four years is

1537
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 1: it's a good way to deal with your time. But

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01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 1: courses that you don't know, Like my daughter went from

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01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: real estate to be she wanted to be an attorney,

1540
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 1: then she went back to real estate, so she doesn't

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01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: necessarily know, Um, what do you think? I mean? I

1542
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: can only speak from experience, you know. I went to

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01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: the University of nor kallin Choppa Hill, and for me,

1544
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: it was something that was definitely needed because they gave

1545
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: me a basic, working knowledge of the world. And I

1546
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people could benefit from that.

1547
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: I do believe that just knowing just fundamentals of just

1548
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: like photosynphesis or just like certain things just allows you

1549
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: to appreciate things in a whole new way. And I

1550
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: do believe that you should use college as you were

1551
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: saying Charlemagne, to kind of explore, because that's what the

1552
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: general requirements are to The general requirements are all over

1553
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: the place, and as you explore different little taste of things,

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01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: you can then say, Okay, I want to go deeper

1555
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: in that, and that becomes your major. And my fear

1556
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: is that if they were to take time off and

1557
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: they go and work, then they're going to start getting

1558
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 1: real life responsibilities, which means you're buying stuff with the

1559
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: money that you're make into this job, and so that

1560
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: means you got to keep that job to keep these things,

1561
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: and then prevents you from ever going back. So don't

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01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: The thing about exploring is you're exploring by paying a bill.

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01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 1: Like you look at certain colleges of forty fifty thousand

1564
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: dollars a year and you're Lauren spending money and might

1565
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: not you might be taking the wrong classes that you

1566
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: don't like. Like there's a lot of people that or

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01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: six years seven year college students because they started thinking

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01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 1: they want to be something and then they wound up

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01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: figuring it out, that's not what I want to do,

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: and then by the time they graduate, they have three

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01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: hundred four hundred thousan dollars worth of debt that they

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01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: got to pay off, and now it takes some twelve

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01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 1: years to pay off. I like what the Scott said, though.

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01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: You know, if you don't go to school, you probably

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01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: getting habit of just working. Yeah, you know. And I

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01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: also think that sometimes you can tell it, like when

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01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 1: people just don't have a basic knowledge of stuff, you'd

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01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 1: be like, oh, okay, I get it. You just you

1579
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: skip some courses. Let's go to the phone lines. A

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01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 1: lot of people are on the lines. Hello, who's this Hey,

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: good morning, Hey Bernard, go on and talk to us.

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01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 1: All right, So I just wanted to touch on the

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01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: I word. Out of college I felt about eleven years.

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01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: And so when it comes to the affordability, colleges are

1585
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: very but it's also public schools that are much more

1586
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,640
Speaker 1: affordable and in some cases if you qualified for like

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01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 1: programs that actually an entire umge for free without paying

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01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 1: anything out of pocket. It's usually when we got to

1589
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: those master pisis and gradual program or those private schools

1590
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: that folks are paying a ton of money and not

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01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: really seeing that return on the better spat. Okay, I

1592
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: won't say that too. You know, the bad thing and

1593
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: This is why we always talk about, you know, free education.

1594
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: My mom worked extra hard and my dad work extra

1595
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: hard to so that I wouldn't have huge college bills

1596
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 1: when I graduated, right, I think they paid like seventy

1597
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 1: percent of my college to which and I had to

1598
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: pay thirty percent when I graduate. So for me, the

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01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: biggest thing for my kids, I have six, is to

1600
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: make sure that you have six, six kids a twenty one,

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01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: eighteen nine eighty six in a one year old. That's impressive.

1602
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: But for me, I want to make sure my kids

1603
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: don't have any college bills. So I work extra hard

1604
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: to make sure when they graduate they started from zero.

1605
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,560
Speaker 1: You do have to work extra hard that you know.

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01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: You know what? That was what college do that? I

1607
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: don't hear y'all talk about enough. Don't you learn other

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01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 1: things outside of just getting a degree, like meeting people,

1609
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: networking skills? That was another And you know me coming

1610
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: from New York, all I was about was New York.

1611
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: But when I went to college, I had a roommate

1612
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: from Mississippi. I had a roommate from Ohio. I had

1613
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 1: a roommate from New Orleans. I had a roommate from Jersey.

1614
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,680
Speaker 1: So it opened me up, you know, do music to

1615
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: all those different areas of music and things like that,

1616
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: and in most cases, it's a safer environment to a

1617
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: spot different things and learn how to interact with people

1618
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: than the real world. So it's like a buffer. It's

1619
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: like a step right before you on your own. And

1620
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: that's why I'm not knocking these people who said it

1621
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: wasn't worth it to get a degree. But are you

1622
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: just equating worth to monetization because you probably got life

1623
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: lifelong friends. Like my wife has her two best friends

1624
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: or from college, right, you know what I mean, they're

1625
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: friends with twenty plus years. And I also think that

1626
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: you touched on something that was powerful you said in

1627
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: terms of a lot of people go to college just

1628
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: to pass. Correct, it's about why you are there. But

1629
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 1: if you're there to learn and actually get something from

1630
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: the experience, you're going to have a different result than

1631
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: someone that's they're just to pass. That's true too. Like

1632
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to college, right, I was

1633
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: a DJ. I wanted to do music, but in my family,

1634
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: I was the first person to go to college in

1635
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 1: my family. Wow, So my parents were like, no, you're going,

1636
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 1: Like they wanted me to go to more House and

1637
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: I was like, More House too far, like they wanted

1638
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: me to go. So for me it was I was

1639
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,840
Speaker 1: doing it more for them than for myself. You're not

1640
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: a more house man. You went Hampton was good for you.

1641
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 1: I'm a Hampton man, sir, Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah,

1642
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 1: it's nothing wrong. Hap man. I can call some my

1643
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: More House people. Do you think he's a more house man?

1644
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: You call them? But I thought how you know how?

1645
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm about to fight you here. I'm

1646
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: about I'm about to fight you a here my money.

1647
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: I've been fighting my whole life. Five a five one

1648
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: oh five one. We're talking about colleges this morning. Now

1649
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 1: what we were saying, I am majority of Americans now

1650
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 1: thinking think getting a college degree isn't worth What are

1651
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:45,879
Speaker 1: your thoughts? And they're saying fifty six percent of Americans

1652
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: now say a four year college degree is it worth

1653
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: the cost? Let's talk about it. It's the Breakfast Club

1654
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: the morning. It's topic time called eight hundred five five

1655
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: one oh five. Wanted to join it. So you're with

1656
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Talk about it morning. Everybody's DJ NV

1657
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: Charlemagne the guy. We are to breakfast club. We have

1658
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: our co host b Scott here. Now we're talking a

1659
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: majority of Americans now thinking getting a college degree. Is

1660
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 1: it worth it? Now? You went to which school? Carolina? Carolina?

1661
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: You got your degree? I didn't. Okay, So psychology, What

1662
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: were your thoughts on going to college. Have you learned

1663
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that you know that you

1664
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: learned in college? Do you use them in quote unquote

1665
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: real life? No, I damn it, man. I think that

1666
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 1: what college did for me is just gave me a

1667
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 1: way of thinking. It gave me a basic knowledge that

1668
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: I use in everyday life. Do I remember the ins

1669
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: and outs of all the particular courses. No, but I

1670
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 1: do remember the basics of how things work. And it

1671
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: also showed me that if I do this, I get this.

1672
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 1: I do this, I get this. It was my first

1673
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 1: time of being like I can put in the work

1674
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 1: and I get a certain result. And that translated to

1675
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: my life, like I now know if I put in

1676
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: the work, no one can touch that. It's like no

1677
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 1: one can touch my degree. But I do feel that

1678
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: college just need to change to correct them a little bit. Yes,

1679
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things that we should learn,

1680
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: whether it's investments, whether it's accounting, whether it's taxes. A

1681
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 1: lot of doing that in high school. Now my daughter,

1682
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: my daughter's school has had a financial literacy because I

1683
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: love that. I love that real estate things like that.

1684
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 1: I think they should be teaching us in college now.

1685
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: And college should be free. It should be like other countries.

1686
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: You can go to college for free and you don't

1687
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: have that debt at the end. But I also believe

1688
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of financial aid. There's also different scholarships

1689
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: grants that people can't apply for, especially minority students. Well,

1690
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: unless the Supreme Court does what they're going to that affirmative. Yeah,

1691
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: let's go to the full lives. Hello. Who's this Hey, Preston,

1692
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,600
Speaker 1: good morning? Are calling from Oh I'm coming from the

1693
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: Capital City. Okay, Now, what's your thoughts on college? You

1694
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: think it's worth it or not? Yeah? In simple words,

1695
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: Yet it's going to expand on that. I think it's

1696
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 1: a big misunderstanding that just going to college is going

1697
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 1: to make it rest correct and that's not the case.

1698
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: Going to colleges and persiament of the studies and you

1699
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: know a lot of people actually go to college don't

1700
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,639
Speaker 1: look too make a lot of money. They just look

1701
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: to do something they want to do in life. That's true,

1702
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: But I also would say this too, And like Charlomagne said,

1703
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 1: and a lot of these schools, once you change the curriculum,

1704
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:21,560
Speaker 1: you change the mind frame of a lot of the

1705
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: way that people think. I think a lot of times

1706
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: colleges teach you how to be a worker and not

1707
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 1: an investor, not an entrepreneur. And like even with my

1708
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: daughter school now, like they're teaching them how to be entrepreneurs.

1709
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: They are encouraging to sell bracelets and sell certain things

1710
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: in design and make things. So what that is I

1711
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: can see my kids already being entrepreneurs and talking about

1712
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: business and how much this cost and how much is

1713
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: the investment? How much do you make back? So I

1714
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,600
Speaker 1: think the curriculum really needs to change a lot of

1715
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,040
Speaker 1: the guarantee that those people would afford to two percent.

1716
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 1: If you ask them why they think it's not worth it,

1717
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: they say as to debt. I bet you majority of

1718
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 1: them say it. And one thing we didn't talk about

1719
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 1: too is that, um, I know they did this, Like

1720
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: Carolina is the intern ships. So I still will only

1721
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: have access to those in internships by being at college.

1722
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,560
Speaker 1: So during the summers, I would be doing internships. I

1723
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 1: would be exploring once again before it became real. I

1724
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: think that's whack, but that's that's the true because even him,

1725
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: you have to be enrolled in college to do an

1726
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 1: intern into breakfast. I'm only a radio personality because I

1727
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: was allowed to do an internship in nineteen ninety eight

1728
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 1: at ninety three Jams and Charleston Soft Before there was

1729
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: before you had to be in college to get one.

1730
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 1: But I thought you must say before there was radio

1731
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: a minute. But like you said, yeah, but think about it.

1732
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: Somebody now who probably came up the same way that

1733
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: you did, wouldn't get a chance of your internship, wouldn't

1734
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 1: be able to do radio because they are not enrolling.

1735
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: Consolutely stupid. All right, Hello, who's this? Hello? Hey? What's

1736
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: your name? Brow Andrew? What's up? Talk to us? What's

1737
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 1: your thoughts? A long time listening? Um? I actually agree

1738
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 1: with you. I got my b A. And when I

1739
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 1: got out of college, I remember going to a job

1740
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 1: interview and the first thing they said was what was

1741
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 1: your job experience? And I was like, I just got

1742
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 1: out of college. I don't have any. So I didn't

1743
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,080
Speaker 1: get that job. And actually the job that I got

1744
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: was making penny until I got more experience. And the

1745
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: current company i'm at now, I've been there for over

1746
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 1: ten years, actually started listening to y'all around the same

1747
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: time I started the job. But it was a fight

1748
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 1: to get the position and didn't even getting you know,

1749
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 1: salary increases for the company. You know, just having a

1750
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: degree you walk in the door don't necessarily mean you're

1751
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: going to get a good position. That's true. It's just

1752
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, you can go to college and you spend

1753
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 1: all this money. I got a house that I'm not

1754
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: even living in that I'm paying for it right now,

1755
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: and it doesn't pay off financially when you have those

1756
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: loans on your credit and you're not making the money

1757
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: that you think you're going to make me go to college.

1758
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 1: That's why I said, I told you, I'm guarantee if

1759
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: you pull those forty two percent of people who say

1760
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 1: college degrees aren't worth it, all of them say it's

1761
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 1: because of the student loaned that. But I won't say

1762
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: it too for I would say probably thirty percent forty

1763
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: percent of the money that I make is from my

1764
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 1: HBCU brothers and sisters. Yeah, the network, Like you know,

1765
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 1: somebody that works at let's say Pepsi and they hired

1766
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: me for something, or somebody that works for AT and

1767
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,560
Speaker 1: T or somebody that works at State Farm or HBCU go.

1768
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: It's a lot of my brothers and sisters that went

1769
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 1: to HBCUs, whether it was more House or Clark or

1770
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: a Spellman or Morgan State or that other HU now

1771
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 1: just joking, Howard or Hampton Morgan's like all of them.

1772
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 1: I get money from that. Keep the money around. My

1773
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,519
Speaker 1: wife heard her three best friends she all she met

1774
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 1: him at the University of South Carolina. The best friends.

1775
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: Now they were her bridesmaid and their wedding. So that's

1776
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: got to be worth it, right. Yeah. The alumni, yeah yeah,

1777
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: I'm not associ I mean even even our boss a

1778
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: pay at them and me. Of course, she went to

1779
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 1: Hampton University, and I think those are good places if

1780
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: you don't know what you want to do, or you

1781
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: do know what you want to do, or don't go

1782
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: to want to go to college for four years. I

1783
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: think the moral of the story of school is worth it.

1784
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: College is worth it. I think so. I think so

1785
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: or I feel a little bad hit the two of

1786
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: my more House partners that asked him, could DJ Andry

1787
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 1: have been a more House man? One said yep. The

1788
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: other one said, hell yeah, we know three hundred light

1789
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 1: skinned negroes from New York. The other one said he

1790
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: would have been our version of DJ Cannon and Drama. Yeah, well,

1791
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 1: shout Cannon and Drama went to Clark, so shout the mars.

1792
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: I actually got accepted to More House. My um, my

1793
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: uncle's or my cousins a professor there, and I love

1794
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: More House. I love shout to all those brothers out there. Well,

1795
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 1: you didn't scrag me as a more House man, but

1796
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: they said they're very diverse. They said they have every

1797
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 1: type of Negro from theo hu Huxtable to the wire

1798
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: corner boys. Great, well, I don't think you'd have been

1799
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: a more House man. I wouldn't have been a college.

1800
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 1: But I think he's more like Morgan State, South Carolina State,

1801
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: More State doctor from I don't know anything about Morgan State,

1802
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: but that sounds like you're not gonna be allowed to

1803
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 1: go there anymore. I need a gavel. I went to

1804
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: visit Morgan State when I was looking at HBCUs and

1805
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: I remember me and my dad walked up and they

1806
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 1: were playing dice on the Morgan State and brothers from

1807
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 1: Morgan State just looked up from their dice games to

1808
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: day and said, man, how are you gonna do something

1809
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 1: like that? We got rumors on the way, Yes we do. Um,

1810
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 1: I don't have in front of me what we're gonna

1811
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 1: talk about, but I think is something related to what's

1812
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 1: happening in prison in Um Georgia. Yeah, like the two gangs.

1813
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, all right, we'll get into that. Next

1814
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: to then moves to breakfast club. Good morning, the breakfast club. Na,

1815
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: we beef for tomorrow. Nala morning everybody, and you you're

1816
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 1: asked tomorrow we are to breakfast. Gonna do l Wayne

1817
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 1: versus fifty cent versus. Yeah, we're gonna do Wayne versus

1818
01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 1: fifty cent versus tomorrow. Shout out to Nyla DJ l Simon.

1819
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 1: That's right, she's so cute. All right, Well let's get

1820
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 1: to the rumors. We have our co host Be Scott here.

1821
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:52,679
Speaker 1: We'll be talking about the one and only Be Scott,

1822
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: and we're talking about our own versus. This is a versus,

1823
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: but this is a real life versus is happening in jail.

1824
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,799
Speaker 1: So um, the two different cruise going on in Atlanta.

1825
01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I gonna keep doing this to me.

1826
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: This has been asking me to quite some tide on

1827
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. I wasn't going to come to you guys,

1828
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 1: but I had it goes a little stufing like this,

1829
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: let's go be scary. Yes, the way that intro tickles

1830
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: my soul? Okay, so um, we have the Battle of

1831
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: the Games going on in Atlanta, Georgia. It is Young

1832
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: Thug and also why f Ends Lucci's games are going

1833
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: at it in jail. So basically what apparently happened is

1834
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 1: one member from Lucci side had gagged and hank like

1835
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: well tie Ti Hi tot tide um a member from

1836
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: Young Thugs why Sel gang and was trying to scrape

1837
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 1: off the tattoo of from the gang. And I think

1838
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 1: we have the clip to Lake. I can't both of him.

1839
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 1: She won't cry when you And there's a short clip

1840
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 1: of that, and then there's an extended version of that,

1841
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: and the one that's on Twitter is truly disturbing evil

1842
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: as I just don't know how to even that type

1843
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. Disturbed your soul, That's what I'm saying. You

1844
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,639
Speaker 1: shut up. I disagree both for y'all. And I'm gonna

1845
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 1: tell you why why you do know they alleged well,

1846
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say allegedly, but they stabbed wife and

1847
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,200
Speaker 1: Lucian jail like they stabbed him like three or four times.

1848
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: So if you stabbed me, am I gonna have any

1849
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 1: remorse of what I do as revenge? No? Do you

1850
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,840
Speaker 1: stabbed me first? Ye, you're right, but there's still levels

1851
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 1: of violence. I could have died. No, there's no level

1852
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,839
Speaker 1: that's torture. What you saw right there is disturbing torture.

1853
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: That's an evil human being. That's the type of person

1854
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,759
Speaker 1: that will walk into your house, slaughter you all, your children,

1855
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: your wife, your grandma everyone. It wouldn't think twice about bro,

1856
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 1: this is war. You stabbed me, You tried to kill me. Hey,

1857
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: you tried to kill me, take my life away. So

1858
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: now I have to be like, well, look, I gotta

1859
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: be nicer to you when you're telling me that wasn't

1860
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: pure evil what you heard just name it's all pure evil,

1861
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 1: way all pure. And I just hate more than the other.

1862
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 1: I just hate how community. Look. Oh man, I see

1863
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 1: a video like that, I'm like, whatever, the white man,

1864
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 1: does the Negroes like that? You guys just let happen? Oh,

1865
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: stop it? Okay, I don't. I don't want any prison

1866
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: reform for that. And that was wild. It needs to

1867
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: be in the worst possible conditions. And what's wild is

1868
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 1: they tape it and then put it out. That's my point.

1869
01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 1: And then also it was wild is that they're letting

1870
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 1: them do that. So where are the people, the election officers,

1871
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: correction officers, where are they at? And I don't even

1872
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,680
Speaker 1: think that's prison. That's I think that's the county that

1873
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: still counting that county. I'm not sure. I think they're

1874
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: stilln county. Come on, man, that man got that's that's

1875
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: that's a different level of evil. But but if you

1876
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: stabbed me, trying to kill me, im I supposed to

1877
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: think about what I you say, there's no levels to evil, right,

1878
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 1: if you try to kill me, there's no levels? No, Okay,

1879
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. Um, Jeffrey Dahma

1880
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: wasn't on a different level of evil than somebody who

1881
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: might just walk up to you and shoot you. No,

1882
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,960
Speaker 1: it's different because I'm you tried to kill me. Sure,

1883
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 1: not a person just je just trying to kill somebody.

1884
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 1: You tried to kill me, but you mentioned that. This

1885
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: is good that you mentioned that, because that was so

1886
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: hard for me to just watch that whole situation with

1887
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:31,839
Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Dahmer stuff, because it definitely glamorized the whole situation.

1888
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: It should not have been made into a series. We

1889
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,839
Speaker 1: did not need to see that. There were people online

1890
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: talking about, oh Jeffrey dahma was fine, Oh lord, you

1891
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean that he preyed on black gay

1892
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: men like ate them up and were sitting there acting

1893
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 1: like I was like the culture sometimes you see certain

1894
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 1: things and you like throw it all the way, and

1895
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: this is one of the stories that that's how I feel.

1896
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: This is disturbing. I was like when I saw it,

1897
01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 1: I was like, it's like, yeah, that was that's yeah,

1898
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 1: that's I'm glad I'm not in that life. But if

1899
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 1: somebody tries to kill me, yes, I'm if I catch you.

1900
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 1: If you try to nobody like that, why not if

1901
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: you try to kill me and stand you're not torturing.

1902
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 1: That is something actually that I have been thinking about

1903
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: because you know, with all the robberies and stuff that's

1904
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: been happening in LA I was thinking about getting the gun,

1905
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: and I have to ask myself if someone came in

1906
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: my house, would I actually use it? Yeah, if you

1907
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: know how to absolutely, I don't know, just for materialistic

1908
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,639
Speaker 1: things that's ensure. How do you know how your life?

1909
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: How do you know? It's just they can be trying

1910
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:38,759
Speaker 1: to kill somebody's exclusive material that you're protecting your life, somebody.

1911
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 1: If somebody comes in in my house not asking any

1912
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:43,639
Speaker 1: questions because I don't know if you're coming for material things?

1913
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 1: Are you come to take my life? So you think

1914
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: I should get the pial and you should learn how

1915
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: to use it? I think I think a black person

1916
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 1: in this country owning a legal firearm and knowing how

1917
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,320
Speaker 1: to use it as a form of self care. How

1918
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: long are you in town for I take you the

1919
01:35:54,800 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 1: gun wrench? I am to Monday? Okay? Oh god um.

1920
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: And the next story we're talking about is Monique Monique again,

1921
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,320
Speaker 1: is you know, letting the chop a fly? This time

1922
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,799
Speaker 1: she's letting the chop a fly on CBS and paramount

1923
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 1: over unpaid royalties of the Parkers. So she's upset about

1924
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: that she's seeking royalties upon the Parkers. She considers it

1925
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: a breach of contract lawsuit and is filed in Los

1926
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Angeles Superior Court. The court documents reported that state reportedly

1927
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: state that the network officially depressed the show's profitability to

1928
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 1: retain millions that will otherwise the contractually due to Monique

1929
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: Production Company. So how do you guys feel about that?

1930
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: I think she should get every dime. And she said

1931
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,600
Speaker 1: something to her statement. I think she said that the

1932
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:44,360
Speaker 1: producers got their money, and so the producers, you know,

1933
01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: the producers knew about it and they sued to get

1934
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,679
Speaker 1: their money. But talent is always the last to note,

1935
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 1: which is very true. So I think she should get

1936
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 1: every freaking set and I believe. And I have you

1937
01:36:53,960 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: seen the special? Have you watched her? It was funny

1938
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 1: to me, and she took it so personal, like I

1939
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: did not affect her to keep it so real where

1940
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 1: she's talking about, you know, she was used to be

1941
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: in special ed And I was like, wow, I did

1942
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: see that part and it was like she was it

1943
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: was like she was crying one minute and then one

1944
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 1: minute she was laughing and making it funny. It was

1945
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: like I could feel the personal struggle in her. And

1946
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,839
Speaker 1: I think this also represents that struggle she is fighting

1947
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 1: for what she believes as hers. It is hers, yes,

1948
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:24,320
Speaker 1: and just in general, I think Monique has been right

1949
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 1: about so much and and I think sometimes we as

1950
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: in black media, get on the wrong side of things,

1951
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 1: and I think with her we were on the wrong

1952
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 1: side of it. A lot of us were were And

1953
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm happy to see that she's now coming for everybody

1954
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 1: that didn't do right by her. And I feel that

1955
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 1: same way, because you know that's what I did with BT.

1956
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm if you do wrong by me, I don't care

1957
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: if you black ball me. You got to get a

1958
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 1: coin out of bite. They snatched me off stage and

1959
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 1: so the girls today could stand on them. M Back

1960
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: in two thou thirteen, I was promoting the Red Carpet

1961
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: and they pulled me. How I looked, baby? I was

1962
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 1: too feminine, they said, they preferred the masculine looking Be Scott,

1963
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it, my how times a chance, we'll

1964
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 1: talk about Hey, we come back and think to do

1965
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 1: nothing like that now? All right, Well, thank you be

1966
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: Scott for those rumors. We'll be back in a little

1967
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 1: bit to People's Choice mixes up next. Get your request

1968
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,439
Speaker 1: in eight hundred five eight five, one oh five one

1969
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,600
Speaker 1: and shout to all of HBCUs. I know we were

1970
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 1: playing there a lot a lot of people from Morgans

1971
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: on my neck. Now, shout to Bogan State. I told

1972
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 1: you I'm gonna torture your ass that you might you

1973
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 1: might need. They're gonna scrip your Hampton tattoo off. Now,

1974
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 1: I bet you're saying they went too far. If they

1975
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 1: all tie you right up? You did? You said they

1976
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 1: ain't a bunch of dice playing bums. You did, you did.

1977
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. The morning the Breakfast Club. Your

1978
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: morning's will never be the same. On April twenty first,

1979
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: Mommy will Love You to Death in the new movie

1980
01:38:56,439 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: Evil Dead Rise. Critics are raven that this is the

1981
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: film that our offense have been waiting for. Get your

1982
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 1: tickets now only in theaters April twenty first, Rated off

1983
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:09,080
Speaker 1: under seventeen, not admitted without a parent, owning. Everybody's dj

1984
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,720
Speaker 1: n V Charlomagne the Guy, We are to Breakfast Club.

1985
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 1: We got our co host b Scott with us this morning. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

1986
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 1: Now you were talking about what happened with b et.

1987
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I feel like we need to save this

1988
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 1: for huh huh's prime time tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, I think

1989
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:23,320
Speaker 1: we need to save this. This is a good one.

1990
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was when I was doing my homework.

1991
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:29,120
Speaker 1: I seen the story. It's good good. I mean, I

1992
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, in two I'm thirteen. It was

1993
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: I was hosting the Red Carpet and I was doing

1994
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: all of the you know, branded integrations with the Procter

1995
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: Gamble things and um, you know, leading up to that moment,

1996
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 1: I just felt like I wanted to be perfect. I

1997
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 1: was like, this is my time to shine. I'm going

1998
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 1: to do this. And when I arrived and started doing

1999
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 1: everything that I needed to do, um, a decision was

2000
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: made to you know, to take me down. And I

2001
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: was on live television, so I was just somebody said,

2002
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: you know, bees to feminine looking right now, and we

2003
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 1: want to change the look. And so I was taken down.

2004
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: Adrian Byline was pulled from being I think she was

2005
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 1: just attending. I think she was just attending to taking

2006
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,599
Speaker 1: my spot. I went and had was you know, had

2007
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 1: to change my clothes and pull my hair back, take

2008
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,960
Speaker 1: off a lot of the makeup, and put on men's clothing. Um,

2009
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,560
Speaker 1: and then I was able to return. But in a

2010
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,600
Speaker 1: co Hoke's capacity with Adrian byline, this is how you

2011
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 1: know so much of what those executives and these networks

2012
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 1: do is performative now because that wasn't that long ago.

2013
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: Absolutely ten years later you know that that you're so

2014
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 1: accepting to that because it takes a lot of people

2015
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,719
Speaker 1: to have to make that call right. There was no pushback,

2016
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:44,599
Speaker 1: like nobody said no, we're not doing that. And that's

2017
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 1: why I was. It was so important for me to

2018
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: do the BT show. So the opportunity came about. UM

2019
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 1: shout out to big you know, biggle in no way.

2020
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 1: I call it biggling away because she makes big things

2021
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: happen for herself but also people like me. Um. She

2022
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: had shows on BT, she had Boomerang, and she also

2023
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 1: had Twenties. But every time she would be talking about

2024
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: the twenties and stuff, a lot of the people would

2025
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: keep bringing up what BT did to me. You know.

2026
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 1: They would say, like the North still remembers like the

2027
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones, and so one thing led to another.

2028
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 1: She was like, b how can we make this right?

2029
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 1: Because I want to make this right. I'm in a

2030
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,560
Speaker 1: position with BT now where I can bring you to

2031
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: the table and we can figure it out, and so

2032
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 1: she arranged a call with Scott Mills and her and myself,

2033
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: And initially all I wanted was an apology. All I

2034
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: ever wanted from the beginning of all of it, which

2035
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: is say we were wrong for doing this tea. I

2036
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 1: didn't care about the show. I make my money already,

2037
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 1: I've been making it. I'm an old school celebrity blogger.

2038
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 1: I get my money from the traffic, and so I've

2039
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: been doing good. So I just wanted to apology. But

2040
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 1: Lena's like, we're gonna get you more than an apology,

2041
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: and so, you know, and for me, I also wanted

2042
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: to forgive them. I wanted to change the narrative. I

2043
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 1: don't want to continue. I didn't want to continue going

2044
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:00,640
Speaker 1: through my life. This company did wrong by me, and

2045
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: so for me to be able to be the first

2046
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: trans non binary person to host an executive producer show

2047
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:08,759
Speaker 1: at BT, it was beautiful. I had a wonderful experience

2048
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: with the new BT. All the people that were involved

2049
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 1: in that situation with me back then we're gone. So

2050
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:19,080
Speaker 1: Scott Mills, you know, was amazing. The show went smoothly,

2051
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 1: and I'm just grateful to have been able to be

2052
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:26,680
Speaker 1: a part of the inclusion we see today, you know,

2053
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 1: like I was able to see what I paved the

2054
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: way for people didn't know that guy started. I moved

2055
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 1: to LA in two thousand and five, started doing videos

2056
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, and I've always presented myself

2057
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,240
Speaker 1: like this. Before there was language for it. Now, you know,

2058
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: the transgender non binary community, that's a whole situation, and

2059
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 1: it's in it's in the you know, like it's in

2060
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,680
Speaker 1: the it's like a thing. Now it's trendy. Yeah, it's

2061
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: trendy when I was Yeah, But when when I first started,

2062
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I was like I would call myself and drogyness, and

2063
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 1: then it changed to gender not conforming, and then it

2064
01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 1: was you know, now it was trans non binary. But

2065
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 1: my expression hasn't changed, you know, And so that was

2066
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,080
Speaker 1: just beautiful for me. They're like damn. I was like,

2067
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,759
Speaker 1: I'm actually still made it. And when you are losing

2068
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 1: so many people in your life just because we're getting older,

2069
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 1: it was like, wow, I actually made it to this moment.

2070
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 1: The first episode of that show that I did, you know,

2071
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 1: the twenties after show would be Scott. It was just

2072
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:21,880
Speaker 1: like I actually cried because I was like Damn. I

2073
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 1: was like, I'm here. I would never thought that the

2074
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: network that was snatching me down and taking me off

2075
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 1: stage would then give me my own show that I

2076
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: would host and executive produce. Something that doesn't show you

2077
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 1: how God can move in somebody's life. You know, the

2078
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 1: person that's last one day could be first, and the

2079
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 1: person who's first could be last. A lot of those

2080
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: people that were snatching me down at BT are definitely

2081
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:49,600
Speaker 1: last right now. Yeah, people will give Lena hell, but

2082
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: they don't realize a lot of the things that Lena

2083
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 1: does behind the scenes. For people like that, what you

2084
01:43:54,400 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 1: call it, I would tell you, I stayed to myself.

2085
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't have no click to Lena. Lena has advocated

2086
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: for me the likes that no one has in my

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Speaker 1: entire career and she has. And what the first episode

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Speaker 1: of the show she shared with me, She's like, Lena

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Speaker 1: used to watch my videos and I helped encourage her

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Speaker 1: to be the person she is today. People missed that part.

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Speaker 1: I was just in my living room, dancing, being myself,

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Speaker 1: talking about my experiences and just being free. But ningas

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Speaker 1: of people were watching back then. I think about it,

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Speaker 1: Like Lena calls me often but I'm thinking about the

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Speaker 1: majority of the calls that she's called me for in

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Speaker 1: the last few months have all been to do with

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Speaker 1: other people. Yeah, other things literally, like I'm literally including you. Literally,

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Speaker 1: I've been about other people. Lena calls for something important

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Speaker 1: and also Lena has the other day when she called

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Speaker 1: it congratulators. But other than that, it's it's it's always

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Speaker 1: something to better humanity. Yes, and she helps me have

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Speaker 1: a softer heart. Sometimes I can be very oh, you

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Speaker 1: did this, I'm gonna do this, and she's like, nah,

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Speaker 1: She's like, just help people, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 1: just put out the good energy. It's gonna come back

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Speaker 1: to you. And I'm more open to not standing alone.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me pay it forward like she does.

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Speaker 1: And that's what like showing somebody in the way is

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Speaker 1: so powerful. I agree, that's right. Shout away. My sneaker

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Speaker 1: game is still better than yours, Lena. We got the

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Speaker 1: positive notes, so don't move. It's to Breakfast Club, Good

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Speaker 1: morning Burning. Everybody is stej Envy, Charlemagne, the guy we

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Speaker 1: all the breakfast club be Scott our co host is here.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's got to be back tomorrow too. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Oh yeah, it's got to be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I love this And you like waking

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Speaker 1: up in the morning. I don't. But because I have

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Speaker 1: an extra component that you guys don't like. I do GLAMR.

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Speaker 1: So like I woke up this morning at three, you know,

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Speaker 1: I had to wake myself up, get my face acclimated.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to scare the people when they show up.

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Speaker 1: I got to pick my face and but no, I

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Speaker 1: think that. But for you guys, once you get used

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Speaker 1: to it, you used to it. Now it's your life.

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Speaker 1: This is what you do. And I think if it

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Speaker 1: was my life and something I was doing every day,

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Speaker 1: then I would be used to it. You was one

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Speaker 1: of six o'clock. A lot of times, especially from the

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Speaker 1: West Coast, people are it takes them a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time. They don't turn on until about seven. He

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Speaker 1: was ready to rock and roll six absolutely, because I

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Speaker 1: made it in my mind that when I came here today,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up for myself and for my community

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Speaker 1: and for all my love muffins. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who have supported me over the years. Love muffins,

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Speaker 1: love muffins. Yeah, I called my fans love muffins, and

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Speaker 1: they have stayed with me. Why do you want to

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Speaker 1: give me huged this morning? Hug this morning? Where you

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Speaker 1: didn't ask, You've tried to, you tried to force one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's consent. You gotta get concent that's right. That was

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Speaker 1: That's actually a good lesson. You gotta have consent. I

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Speaker 1: wasn't ready and also talked. Meant to tell people, Man,

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Speaker 1: make sure I see you in Atlanta April twenty second

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Speaker 1: UM for the first ever Black Effect Podcast Festival. We

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Speaker 1: are almost sold out. To be honest with you, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if we're sold out yet. I think I

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Speaker 1: would have got that text already, but we were only

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Speaker 1: like a few hundred tickets away from being sold out.

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Speaker 1: But Saturday, April twenty second, Pullman yards L hosted by

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Speaker 1: me and Jesse Hilarius, some of your favorite podcasts, That's Family,

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Speaker 1: eighty five, south Shore be on stage, Horrible decisions, reasonably shady,

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Speaker 1: just to name a few. So go get your tickets

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Speaker 1: com for more information. All right, you got a positive note?

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Speaker 1: I do. Man. This is a quote from one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite people, doctor Wayne W. Dye arresting peace to

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Speaker 1: doctor Wayne W. Dyer. I want y'all to try this today,

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Speaker 1: especially since it's a beautiful day out. Give yourself a

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Speaker 1: gift for five minutes of contemplation in awe of everything

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Speaker 1: you see around you. Go outside and turn your attention

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Speaker 1: to the many miracles that exist all around you. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's a five minute the day regiment of appreciation and

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Speaker 1: gratitude and it will help you to focus your life.

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Speaker 1: And ah, go try that. The day that was beautiful

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Speaker 1: word breakfast club you don't finish for y'all dumb