1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Charging them out. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: We're charging the mountain thanks to Fox One crowds. By 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: the way, Normally we do charge them mount at the 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: beginning of the show, but because your ex roommate just 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: had to be on right at eleven for his big 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: meeting at eleven fifteen, we're doing a little bit later today. 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 3: Why do you think I said he changed. I mean 8 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 3: he's totally changed. He's got more chins now, he's got 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: more watches now. He's always been swaggy. He's always been swaggy, 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: like there was no doubt when we got drafted. I 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 3: was in the hotel room first at the d It 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: was a day's in in Dunedin, and I'm there and 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 3: I'm like, I have no idea what's going on. I 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: have like my mit and that's it. And this dude 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: rolls in with a whole bag of swag. He's got 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: cleats matching the Blue Jays collars, he's got batting gloves, 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: he's got wood bats already. He was swaggy coming out 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: of the University of Delaware. 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 4: What are the Blue Hens? The Blue Hens? So he 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 4: went from the Blue House to the Blue Jays. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 5: Forever. 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: He never he never left the organization got fired always 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: be in Blue, became a coach, and now he's the 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: hefe hopefully getting them a World Series this year. 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see a great run they had last year. 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: Speaking of the world, the world baseball class again did 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: last night croutzy? Is we know Venezuela. Congratulations of Venezuela. 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: What a game? Three to two decisions to be made? 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: I mean, where do we even start with this game? 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: First of all, McLean pitch well enough to win. The 31 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: USA offense didn't show up. I mean, Rodriguez and werdo Rodriguez? 32 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? Where the Diamondbacks are going? Where 33 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: the heck has this guy been for the last couple 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: of years. 35 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess he needs some motivation or something. 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you saw him in the look he's had. 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: He's had great runs. He's had great runs. There's a 38 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: reason he got the contract that he's got. But for 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: whatever reason, in Arizona you have for over two years 40 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: worth of innings off and on the field, he's had 41 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: over a five r Last night showed why winner take 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: a game seven whatever, elimination games, anybody can do it. 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: And he came in and he followed it seemed I 44 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: don't know how many pitches I was trying to think 45 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: while I was watching the game, how many pitches he 46 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 3: didn't execute, Like he was able to double up in 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: when he needed to, and then his change up was 48 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: in the exact location every single time. I think he 49 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: got away with one pitch that Aaron Judge didn't swing at, 50 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: but the reason was because he was executing all of 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: his pitches. To me, he was the MVP of the game, 52 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 3: not the whole tournament, but the MVP. 53 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 5: Of the game. 54 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: Agreed in Salvey too. Salvey deserves a ton of credit 55 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: for maneuvering him through some of those innings and some 56 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: of those batters and just leading this team right with 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: the sea on his chest. I mean, he just he 58 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: showed Wall why he is the captain of Team Venezuela 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: and a deserving Hall of Famer. 60 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 6: For me and for what I have, I don't feel 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 6: like we got enough in on the World Baseball Classic, 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 6: So let's cook AJ What else did we want to 63 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 6: say about it? I know we touched on it last 64 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 6: night on the postgame show, so I encourage everyone to 65 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 6: check that out. 66 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: It was great. 67 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 6: And then a little bit off the top of the show. 68 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 6: But what do you have for me on Venezuela. 69 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 4: They played great, they beat him, they beat the USA. 70 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: I mean, what else can I say? 71 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: Edwardo Rodriguez unbelievable, the pitching staff unbelievable. 72 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 4: Palencia my boy, like I said he would, he said 73 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: he would die for the Cubs. Well, imagine what he 74 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: do for Venezuela. 75 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: Just just a great job by them, a great team win. 76 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: Gino Suarez one of my all time favorite people to 77 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: talk to, getting the huge hit and you saw his 78 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: emotion after the game. And for USA, they just didn't 79 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: hit man. I mean, Nolan McClean pitched really well. The 80 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: bullpen came in and didn't really give up much until 81 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: the ninth inning. And as far as the Mason Miller 82 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: stuff goes in the ninth inning. 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it. 84 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: But at the same time, it would have been third 85 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: time in five days Bednar was down. He was on 86 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: the same schedule, so I understand it. And it's not 87 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: like Whitlock sucks. Whitlock's pretty damn good. Look his numbers 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: and look how well he pitched the last time he 89 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: was out there. 90 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 4: So listen, just the lead off walk, the lead off walk, scored, 91 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: and that was a big mistake. 92 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: You got to make Luisa Rice hit the ball out 93 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: of the park right there, and unfortunately Whitlock walked him 94 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: and that was the run that scored. And then you 95 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: had the Dave Roberts play at second base where he 96 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: was just safe and you could argue was as safe 97 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: was he out? 98 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, but Venezuela got the hit when they 99 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 4: needed to. 100 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 5: That's it. 101 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: USA didn't didn't offensively amount to what we thought they 102 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: would be, So hats off. I tip my cap to 103 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: de venezuel I'm happy they won because now I get 104 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: to hear from Ozzie Gehan for three years. 105 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean, the thing that I love about this was 106 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: the fact that this spotlighted baseball in such a big stage. Yes, 107 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 3: it was the best players, but the fact that this 108 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: I think it could catapult us getting big league players 109 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: into the Olympics, because I think you sit there and 110 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: you go this is this is the kind of exhibition, 111 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: as AJ called it, that we really want to see. 112 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 5: All these tournaments. 113 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: When I played with them, and it was only minor leaguers, 114 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: people didn't really care at all, but the same feelings 115 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: were had out there. The same feeling of we need 116 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 3: to get this done. 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Ken, what was it like 146 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: last night in that stadium? Talk to me about Venezuela 147 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 2: and USA. 148 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: Well, Aja, you experienced it when you were here as well. 149 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: It's great every night at low Depot Park for the WBC. 150 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: It's not always great when the Marlins are playing. In fact, 151 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: it's not nearly as great when the Marlins are playing. 152 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: But the atmosphere was great, crowd was great. The Venezuelan fans, 153 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to say they topped the Dominican fans, 154 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: but it's neck and neck at the very least. And 155 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: they were so overjoyed, so happy. The players were so happy. 156 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that anyone, even in a United States 157 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: fan could be upset with the outcome in the sense 158 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: that you could see the joy it brought to the 159 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: players and by extension, the country. 160 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: Ken. 161 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: First of all, we're presented by Fox one having Ken on, 162 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: and there's a Fox employee and Ken also a Fox employee. 163 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: We mean, how much we love Fox. So thank you 164 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: Fox one and get your seven for day free trial. 165 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: But how come people say they can't do an atmosphere 166 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: in Miami like this? No one likes baseball in Miami. 167 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: Nobody wants to come to the games in Miami. These 168 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: games were incredible. The atmosphere was incredible. The place was 169 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: sold out. 170 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: Why is it just from the WBC and not the Marlins. 171 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Well, it's the team. And if the team ever gets 172 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: good again, and actually they're on their way, then maybe 173 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: you'll see something resembling that atmosphere. Now we should say this, 174 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: it's the WBC. It's a different environment. The players, especially 175 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: from the Latin American countries, will tell you that this 176 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: means more to them than in some cases even the 177 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: World Series. So it's that way for the fans too. 178 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: A regular season baseball game between the Mami Morons and 179 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: even the New York Yankees will never have that kind 180 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: of Jews. It's just not the same level of intensity 181 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: postseason baseball closer. But I would say the crowds here 182 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: and the crowds in twenty twenty three were even more 183 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: intense than almost every crowd of experience in the postseason. 184 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: Philly's really good, Toronto is good. At the end, La 185 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: is good. But this is different, and you could see 186 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: the difference watching on TV. I would imagine you could 187 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: hear the difference as well. 188 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: Thousands of postgame interviews, You've done interviews with players in 189 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: different situations, World Series, all that stuff. Can you feel 190 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 3: the emotion that he was putting out there after his 191 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 3: country won? 192 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: Yes, and that was to me extraordinary that interview. And 193 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: I know he of course spoke a lot about his 194 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: religion and his faith, and some people get offended by that, 195 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: but man, it was just such a pure reaction. It's 196 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: who he is, obviously, and yes, I could definitely feel 197 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: I would say, the intensity of his reaction and just 198 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: how happy he was. And it was a cool interview 199 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: to be a part of. And in general, those players 200 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: carry themselves, of course, with a lot of class, and 201 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: there's some of my favorite people in the game, soal 202 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: Perezjeneo Suarez, Luis Raise. These are some of the best 203 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: guys I know. And again I was happy for them. 204 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: I was happy because I knew how much it meant 205 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: to them. We could all see how much it meant 206 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: to them. It didn't take much to figure that out. 207 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: And in that postgame interview, his joy radiated, his passion radiated. 208 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: And it seems to me I didn't I haven't watched 209 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: it back yet, but I would imagine it was almost 210 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: like he was jumping out of the screen because it 211 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: was that cool. 212 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 5: That's what it looked like. 213 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: Now, these are all young, the players are all young, 214 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 3: even Salvi, even any of the players that are up 215 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 3: there in age. But you had on the bench, you 216 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 3: had Miguel Cabrera, you had Omar Lopez, you had Robinson, 217 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: Schirinos and Para and rugenet o'door was coaching third base. 218 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: What did it mean to those guys or did it 219 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: mean more to the players, because all of those guys 220 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: were like the people who blaze trails for these Venezuelan players. 221 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: It seems to me, Eric it meant a ton to 222 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: all of them. And I believe we showed Miggy crying 223 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: Mickey Cabrera. I don't know that we've ever seen that. 224 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: And they were all so desperate, it's not the right word, 225 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: eager to do this for their country. And we all 226 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: know Venezuela has gone through some really difficult times that 227 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: played into this. It certainly played into the emotion, but 228 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: there's also a love for their country that they have, 229 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: and it's their family and friends and relatives back home 230 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: that they were playing for as well. And it's true 231 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: of all countries, true of the US. The guys there too. 232 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: It's just the cultural difference between the two. They show 233 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: it more than our guys do. It doesn't mean our 234 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: guys are wrong, doesn't mean they care less, doesn't mean 235 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: they love their sport less or their country less. They 236 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: love it as much, but it's just a different way 237 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: of expressing yourself. And again that outpouring in addition, not 238 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 1: just from the players and coaches and staff on the field, 239 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: but in the stands. 240 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: It was incredible, guys, Ben, I'm never gonna I've never 241 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: seen this many people cry on a baseball field of joy, 242 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: tears of sadness, you know whatever. Happy for Venezuela, happy 243 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 2: for the players, Like you said, Salvi Perez, Maggie Johann Santana, 244 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: Omar Lopez, Arise. They just have some Suarez. They have 245 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: some really good guys on their team, and the US 246 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: has good guys on their team. 247 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: Also. 248 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: Can we put to bed the narrative, please, that the 249 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 2: US didn't care as much as the other teams because 250 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: just because they didn't show it, and they play a 251 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: different game than what the US people are brought brought 252 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: up playing, right, it's more emotional, it's more showy, and 253 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 2: that's fine, that's the way it is. But we saw 254 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: when Bryce Harper hit the home run, pointing to the 255 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,479 Speaker 2: patch on his sleeve, right, blowing the kisses, doing this salute, 256 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: all the things. Can we please put that narrative to 257 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: bed that the US doesn't care as much. 258 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: Actually, I tried to on the broadcast the other night, 259 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: and it's a ridiculous narrative. And it's so funny to 260 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: me aj ten fifteen years ago, when we were still 261 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: in the period where the unwritten rules ruled right, the 262 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: reaction of players from Venezuela, Dominican Republic, all the guys 263 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: who would act like they did, some Americans too, that 264 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: was looked down upon. Now, if you don't act like that. 265 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: It's looked down upon. And the idea that these guys 266 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: didn't care and weren't trying to win as hard as 267 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: they could, it's absurd. They cared a lot, and they bonded, 268 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: and they relished being part of this team. They relished 269 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: being with each other, They relished representing their country. And 270 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 1: if you want to look at this question from a 271 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: different perspective, Okay, because the US beat the Dominican Republic, 272 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: does that mean the US cared more than the Dominican Republic. No? 273 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: Did Venezuela win last night because they cared more than 274 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: the US. No. It was a baseball game and people 275 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: expressed themselves differently. One of the beauties of this tournament, 276 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: in fact, Bryce spoke to this last night, is that 277 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: we get to celebrate the diversity of baseball cultures. We 278 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: get to see and experience all the different cultures in 279 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: this game, this beautiful game that is played around the world. 280 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: When I say that, I mean the culture is from 281 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: the Asian countries, the cultures from the Latin American countries, 282 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: and yes, the culture from our country. They're all different. 283 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: And you know what different is beautiful. It makes the 284 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: world go round, and it's just such a cool thing 285 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: that the WBC brings us to see all of these 286 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: different things go on. I just love it for that reason. 287 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: And again, to say that the US players didn't care 288 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: is one of the bigger fallacies I've ever heard. It's absurd. 289 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: By the way, much loved the Bryce Harper also for 290 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: going over and shaking the Venezuela players hands after they 291 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: had won. 292 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: That was a cool moment. 293 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: I know not everyone does it, but for Bryce to 294 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: think of that at the time, very cool moment that 295 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: people got to see that that, you know, it was 296 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: much respect for what they did. And also, Ken, can 297 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: you imagine how much fun I would have had if 298 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: I got to play in an era where you could 299 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: batflip and talk a little trash And I mean, can 300 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: you imagine, Ken, how much fun and how many good 301 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: stories you could have wrote about me about all the 302 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: crazy stuff I would have done. 303 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: He Ja. The thing is, people don't realize if you 304 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: were ahead of your time, right thank you. You were 305 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: a guy that, yes, played with a lot of passion, 306 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: and sometimes it ticked people off and sometimes it didn't whatever, 307 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: But we all know that everybody has to not just 308 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: on a baseball field, but in real life, go according 309 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: to their own personality. You gotta be yourself, and that's 310 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: what everyone in this tournament was being. And it seems 311 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: to me the tournament gives players a better opportunity to 312 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: express themselves. Dante Boschett Junior played for Team Brazil. He 313 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: kind of mentioned that early in the tournament. It's kind 314 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: of like, do what you want and let it out, 315 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: and that's cool, it's cool. It wouldn't work, I don't know, 316 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: over one hundred and sixty two games, because it's too 317 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: long a season. You can't ride that emotional high. But 318 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: this is a sprint and this is an intense period 319 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: of baseball and an intense emotional time for all of 320 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: these players. So from that perspective alone, while the WBC 321 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: is flawed in any number of ways, I always tell 322 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: people and I'll say it again, and I think it 323 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: holds right now. You watch the games, you get it, 324 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: you understand you have. 325 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: To be who you are. Then that means a manager 326 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: like Mark de Rosa has to be who he is. 327 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: Is the fact that everybody was being who they were, 328 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: that everybody was, you know, expressing themselves differently, The fact 329 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: that Tmusa actually was caring. We heard it here first. 330 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: Ken Rosenthal broke that news like shouldn't he should he 331 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: be back next year? I mean next time, next time 332 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 3: they have the WBC because of the fact that he 333 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 3: enabled these players to be who they were and they 334 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 3: just came up short or should he be to blame 335 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: for some of this quote failing because they didn't finish 336 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: the job. 337 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: I have a hard time blaming him for this. And 338 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: two times now that he's managed, they went to the 339 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: ninth inning of the championship game. It's pretty good baseball. 340 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Nothing he did strategically 341 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: had a dramatic impact, and I thought he had a 342 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: really good game strategically against the Dominican Republic. The one 343 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: thing he wanted to do was just what you refer to, Eric, 344 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: create this culture of players that cared about each other, 345 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: that brought the best out of each other, that became 346 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: a team in every sense of the word. And I 347 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: never got to this on the broadcast and I never 348 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: wrote it just didn't work out. But Adam Waynwright, who 349 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: was of course a member of Team USA in twenty 350 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: twenty three, had a great perspective on DeRosa, and he 351 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: called him after DeRosa made those mistaken comments, the one 352 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: about qualifying for the quarterfinal before they qualified for the 353 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: quarterfinal and the other one which he got criticized for 354 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: when he said the players were dragging. That was not 355 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: a great comment. What Rainwright told De Rosa is, hey man, 356 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: you are a guy as a manager who makes players 357 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: love being in the WBC, love the game, more, invest 358 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: in their teammates more. That is who you are and 359 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. That is who DeRosa is 360 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: and he succeeded in that in a very very big way. Now, 361 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: should it be back, some people might say, well, you 362 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: need somebody different. He hasn't won twice. Okay, somebody can 363 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: say that that's fine. I could see it going either way. 364 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: But in my view, he rallied this team when they 365 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: had that crisis after Italy crisis that was in part 366 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: due to his comments. And they came back and they 367 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: beat Canada, they beat the Dominican Republic, and they nearly 368 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: beat Venezuela. 369 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: And I want a couple I want to build off 370 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 3: of what you said that US cares, but I also 371 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 3: want your comment on it. Did you see the players 372 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: taking off their silver metal as they were leaving the 373 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: field after they got it, And to me as a player, 374 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: that means they cared a lot. They wanted to win 375 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: and second place wasn't good enough. 376 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: I saw Mason Miller do that. I wasn't watching every player, 377 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: and I was a little surprised. It's a silver medal, 378 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: it's nothing to be ashamed of. But I am certain 379 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: that there is a burning desire among some of the 380 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: younger players, Mason Miller perhaps in particular, to come back 381 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: the next time there is a WBC, assuming there is one. 382 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: It has to be agreed upon by the league in 383 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: the Union and win this thing, and win it in 384 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: a big way. Now it's tournament baseball. There is some 385 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: randomness involved in the small samples. We all know that. 386 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: But yes, the US players, I am certain that some 387 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: of them feel like, Okay, I'll be back and we're 388 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna win the next time, and that's what you want. 389 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: Over the years, the participation from the US players has 390 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: grown almost exponentially, and you had a situation in this 391 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: tournament where really all of the best players wanted to 392 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: play for Team USA. So I would expect that would continue, 393 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: and I would expect that maybe the next time. The 394 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: overall passion that we're going to see from these guys 395 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: just about joining the team is even greater than it 396 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: was this year, and it was pretty darn great this year. 397 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: So yes, Eric, it left a bad taste. It was 398 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: one of those deals where almost like in the playoffs, 399 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: when you see guys watching the other teams celebrate and 400 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: they keep it in their head. It seemed like there 401 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: was some of that last night. 402 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: That's a good thing, Ken, That's a good thing for 403 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: the team USA. They've only won one of these, so 404 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: they need to let's go. Let's go as a patriot 405 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: and someone born in the United States, and we need 406 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: the USA to win a couple more of these to 407 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: get even with the rest of the world. You mentioned 408 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: the CBA, and you mentioned this is something that's negotiated. 409 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 2: After the game last night, Rob Manfred was there handing 410 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 2: out medals along with Bruce Meyer, who. 411 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 4: Was ahead of the Players Association. 412 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: Do you think they negotiated while they were standing there 413 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: at home plate handing out the medals. Do you think 414 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: that was the start of the negotiation. If they can 415 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: agree to stand in a circle, you know, fifteen by 416 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: fifteen circle, can we get them in a room to 417 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: start the negotiations. 418 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: Please Ange, I don't believe they were negotiating last night. 419 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 5: Why not. 420 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: It's almost a triumph to see them standing in within 421 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, ten feet of each other and not 422 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: like sniping at each other because of the relationship between 423 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: these parties over the years. But negotiations are expected to 424 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: start some time after opening day. Now. Do I expect 425 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: any deal to be done before the expiration of the 426 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: CBA December first? Absolutely not. It's just the nature of 427 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: these negotiations. It's the way it's going to go. I 428 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: do remember back in two thousand and six, it was 429 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: my first year at Fox, they got an agreement. It 430 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: was in October, and I remember before a World Series 431 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: game interviewing on the field Don Fear and Bud sealing 432 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: about the CBA that was agreed upon before it expired 433 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: during the World Series. It is possible. I just don't 434 00:21:59,119 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: expect it to happen. 435 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: Ken. 436 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: You're you're the ultimate mediator. Look at you bring everyone together. 437 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: You're just you're just great at it. At lease all peace, 438 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: love and peace, Ken love in peace right for Ken Rosen. 439 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 4: Well, that's Ken Rosenthal. Thanks for joining us. Safe travels. 440 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: Wherever you're off to, Ken, I think we'll see you 441 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: in San Francisco next week, is all right, Yankee san 442 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: Francisco for the first game on Fox Baseball Night in America. 443 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: Mike Battle week and a half away. 444 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: Ken, my game can't even make the graphics, so I mean, 445 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: my Royals Braves game can't even make the graphics. So 446 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: you know some of us, some of us are here 447 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: and some of us are down here. Kay, Yes, I know, Gratzy, 448 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: I apologize, but it was nice. So thanks Ken, safe travels. 449 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon, and uh, good luck on 450 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: your notebook next week. Thanks aj Hey. 451 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: This episode is brought to you by Fox One. 452 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 2: Fox one is now live stream all your Fox favorites 453 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 2: together in one place, from MLB postseason to NFL on 454 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: Fox to Big Noon Saturdays with Fox One. You get 455 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: it all live. Start your seven day free trial today. 456 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 2: Offers are subject to change. Go to Fox one for 457 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: complete terms and additions. Fox one streaming now and we'll 458 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: be right back. 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They're 462 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 4: all check marks except for one. 463 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 2: I'm seriously have a tear in my eye because I 464 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: won't get to hang out with Mark anymore, and I 465 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: might actually be able to get a free dinner that 466 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 2: I have that I don't have to pay for from 467 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: someone else because Mark makes me buy dinner every night. 468 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: And now here we are at the end and we 469 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: only have one more day after today. Are you as 470 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: sad as I am that this is coming to an end. 471 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: I'm really not sad about it because I love the 472 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: fact that you've been getting. I'm not sure how many 473 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: free dinners you actually have to pay for, Like, I'm 474 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: not sure what you meant by that, Like, well, I 475 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: meant that I have to pay. 476 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 2: For dinner and I can actually get a free dinner 477 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: now because Mark. 478 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: We know, we know that's not true. We know that's 479 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 3: not true. But I'm glad you're gonna be able to 480 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: get to go home, even though you spent the entire 481 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: month in your lovely state of Florida. And I love 482 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: that we get to finish it on a high note 483 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: with the best spring training facility that I was ever 484 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: a part of. Clearwater is the best place to watch 485 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: a game. I don't know why not the facility, players wise, 486 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 3: but like stadium wise. We just talked about it last night. 487 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 3: My favorite stadium has always been Clearwater. I don't know why. 488 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 3: Something about Frenchies in left field, something about the you know, 489 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 3: as far as like facilities, it's not like the nicest, 490 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 3: but something about Clearwater. It just it was always packed, 491 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: just a good atmosphere for me. 492 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: I agreed, it was always fun that one time I 493 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: went there to play away game. It was fun as 494 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: a brave No, not as a brave as a red song. 495 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: I actually I actually requested to go there as a 496 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: red Song because I could drive home and then I 497 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 2: could go back. 498 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 4: I went on all the road games. 499 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: That's why David Ross and I are friends, because I 500 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: went on all the road games and he got to 501 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: stay at home because I wanted to go because I 502 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: could go home to Orlando and then I could meet 503 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 2: the team. And it was actually easier for me to 504 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: do it that way. But anyways, let's get to our 505 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: season preview of the Toronto Blue Jays did defending American 506 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: League champions from twenty twenty five. They're back, they have 507 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,239 Speaker 2: some new players, Yes, they have a lot of their 508 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: guys back, but they're missing some guys. 509 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 6: You know, they. 510 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 5: Got some dudes, that's for sure. 511 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 4: They do they listen. 512 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: They have Gosman back obviously, but then you had you Savage. 513 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: They have Max back, they have Baber. Where's Barrios at? 514 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: Starting pitching? Is their strength? 515 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: Do you still think it's the strength of this team 516 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six? 517 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: Scratchy Yeah, I mean this whole, this whole run that 518 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 3: they've made. When you talk to like a Kevin Gosman 519 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: and you go, Okay, he's been here for this is 520 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 3: fifth season. I think he signed a five year, one 521 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: hundred and ten million dollars deal. The way that they've pitched, 522 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: the fact that they're starting pitchers. They all went out 523 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 3: and made all their starts the one year I forget 524 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 3: what their what their starting rotation era was. It was incredible. 525 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 3: But the reason it was incredible was because their defense 526 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: was incredible. You had throughout this time. You've had Platinum 527 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: Glove at third base. You've had Andrea Samenez at second 528 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 3: base for a little bit of this. Now he's gonna 529 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: shift over to Now he's gonna shift over to shortstop. 530 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: You've had Dalton varshow which was a trade that Blue 531 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: Jays and Shapiro and the front office got a flat 532 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 3: got a lot of flak for because they brought Dalton 533 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: varshow in and Gabrielle Moreno went over to the Diamondbacks 534 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: and almost won a World Series. And you say, oh, 535 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: how can you get rid of that when you don't 536 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: know what you have behind the dish. Now, Alejandro Kirk 537 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 3: has a goal glove. Like you sit there and you go, 538 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: this team is build around pitching in defense, and I 539 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 3: think they doubled down on it again because they added 540 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: more depth to their starting rotation. Did they add like 541 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: four Dylan Ceases. No, but they went out and got 542 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 3: what some would have said was one of the top 543 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 3: two or three pitchers in the free agent market. So 544 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: they added to that depth, which they know they were 545 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 3: losing Bass. They didn't know the health of Barrios, they 546 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: didn't because of how the season ended, They didn't know, 547 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 3: you know, they didn't know what they were going to 548 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: get back with Bieber. They just keep adding to it. 549 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 3: But I think the reason this pitching does so well 550 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 3: is because they're good. But this defense is what has 551 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 3: really really helped this pitching and helped them hopefully stay 552 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: healthy and make another run. 553 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: The one thing they do like in Toronto is guys 554 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: that'd make all their starts. That's why Dylan Seasid I 555 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: think fit really well. Berios has always made his start. 556 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: Kevin Gosman's another guy that makes a lot of his starts. 557 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: Bieber you know when he's healthy, obviously he can be 558 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 2: one of the best. Max we all know it could 559 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: be one of the best. Cody Ponce has made his 560 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: starts in Korea in the last couple years. That's the 561 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: kind of people that they look for when they bring 562 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: in guys. Here's something I want you to look at, 563 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: Thoughcratsey for Fangrafs the division standings that projected standings. I'm 564 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: a little surprised by this that the Blue Jays only 565 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: eighty four point eight wins. They won ninety four games 566 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: last year, and I feel like they yes, they lost Bobushit, 567 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: but I feel like they improved. 568 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 4: I think this number is low for me. 569 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 5: Can I can? 570 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: I mean just because if I would, if you would 571 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 3: tell me, just in a vacuum, the Blue Jays are 572 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: gonna only win eighty four games, I would say, WHOA, 573 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 3: that's way under But when you look at where they 574 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: project the rest of the wins, they're really just with 575 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 3: these wins win projections, they're just projecting the fact that 576 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: they have the toughest division. They have a division as 577 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: just going to beat each other up. When you think 578 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: about the fact that the Rays are not a pushover 579 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 3: and they have the least amount of projected wins in 580 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 3: this do I think the division is going to be 581 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: a little bit more spread out? Yes, I think the 582 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: Rays are probably more like a seventy five win team, 583 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: But from there the Orioles to the Yankees, Blue Jays 584 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 3: and Red Sox in the middle here, I think each 585 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 3: one of these teams can win ninety games. So who's 586 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 3: gonna do it? Is the Blue Jays? Is the blue 587 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: Jays defense going to take them that next step? 588 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 5: Is that? 589 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 3: Is that starting rotation depth going to give them enough 590 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: of these victories? Is there is there bullpen deep enough? 591 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's in the American League East. 592 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 5: And it's just not gonna be any time to breathe. 593 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: And so I think where that number is, I think 594 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: that's why they have it, But I think it's a 595 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: I think it's a low number. I see them more 596 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 3: as like the eighty eight to ninety one win type 597 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: of team. 598 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: Okay, but then which one's more right here? Is it 599 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: fangrass eighty four point eight or bet mgm. I'm more 600 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: on the bet mgm eighty eight point five list. If 601 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm looking this as an outsider looking at the Blue 602 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: Jays win projection, I think BETMGM is going to be 603 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: closer to the number than fangrafs. 604 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: I agree. I agree. I think it's gonna be tough 605 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: to win. Win to me, eighty four way low for 606 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: this team, Are you kidding me? 607 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 5: Waylow? 608 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 3: But again I think that's how That's why fangrass. When fangrass, 609 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 3: you know, they're usually they're usually missing those projections Pakoda projections. 610 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 3: They usually go lower for everybody because not everybody can win. 611 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: Not everybody can win ninety plus games, Like the division 612 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: will not all win ninety plus games, and it could 613 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: hurt them making it to the playoffs, especially when you 614 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: talk about the AL Central having some teams that you 615 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 3: might have one team that does really good out of 616 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 3: the AL Central and then some other teams that could 617 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: win eighty four to eighty six games and possibly not 618 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: be as good as an American League East team, but 619 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: these American League East teams have to play each other 620 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: thirteen times. I think it's I think it's definitely. I 621 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: think it's definitely one of those things that is important 622 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: to look at when you were projecting the season. But 623 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: to me, it will be based around this lineup. This 624 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: lineup did not strike out, did not strike out last year, 625 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 3: and they are bringing back the similar type of players. 626 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 5: Alkamoto is going to be an. 627 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: Incredible addition to this team, But how does John Schneider 628 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: give them the best ability to everybody stay healthy and 629 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: ready to go? All right, we'll be back with fasten All. 630 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: Fasten All where industry meets innovation. Want to learn more, 631 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: check out Fastenall dot com. F A S T E 632 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: n A L dot com. Anytime you get a victory 633 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: when it wasn't a victory, that's a victory. We'll go 634 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: over our picks from yesterday, and clearly we all thought 635 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: us was gonna win. Fortunately I knew it was going 636 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: to be an under. So that's pretty much how all 637 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: my picks are going to be this year. But I 638 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: get the green check. Actually I got it at plus 639 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: money because if you look into bed MGM app they 640 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 3: were doing a lot of WBC boosted odds. They're giving 641 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: you different boosted odds throughout the week. But big victory 642 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 3: for me. It's an okay, okay loss for you, bad 643 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: for us. 644 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: I was never I mean I was. Was I gonna 645 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 2: take Venezuela? No, I mean no chance. I was betting 646 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: with your heart, not with your head, is what it was. 647 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: And I went with my heart and I lost. But 648 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: it happens. 649 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 4: Stuff happens. 650 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 5: But good thing. 651 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 2: We get to restart in a couple of days for 652 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: our locks for the season. Who, as we all know, 653 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: I am the champion of. 654 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: You are kind of the champion. Maybe this year we'll 655 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 3: run it a little bit different, so it's not just 656 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: about money bags you but really for the people. But 657 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: we'll revisit it with producer Lady once we get to it. 658 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. 659 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: What do you mean? I mean? At the end of 660 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 4: the day, isn't it who has the most money wins. 661 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: It's that is that is some people get to their 662 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: money a little bit differently. But all that to say, 663 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 3: bet MGM is offering players the opportunity to win a 664 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: share of two million dollars in bonus bets if they 665 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: correctly pick the Cavender twins Haley or Hannah that wins 666 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 3: the quarter Legends event at the Bank in Las Vegas 667 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 3: on April fifth. This is how you get it. You 668 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 3: opt in, You pick a twin to win free to 669 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: play a game. Then you select which Cavender twin, Haley 670 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: or Hannah you think will win the quart of Legends 671 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: won on one basketball game. If the twin you select 672 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: wins the game, you win a share of listen to it, 673 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: two million dollars in bonus bets. 674 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 5: We're right back. 675 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: We're back with slop pans. We had a great show here. 676 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: I want to thank everybody at the Blue Jays and 677 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: here in dun Eden. Even though Kratz complains that the 678 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 2: stadium isn't here, I like it because everyone's contained in 679 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: a small area, even though it's a giant complex and 680 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 2: a giant clubhouse. But thank you to everyone at the 681 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: Blue Jays, John Schneider, Kevin Gosman, who else we have, 682 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: Max Suerzer, Shane Bieber, Mark Shapiro, thank you, Thank you 683 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 2: for guys coming out and tomorrow Krowts, I can't believe it. 684 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: It's our last, our last day of spring training camp. 685 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 2: No more Fastenal calendar, no more Fastenal sponsorship for the 686 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: spring tour. Well, we're at your favorite place tomorrow, and 687 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 2: I know you're not gonna miss it because we are 688 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: at the Philadelphia Phillies tomorrow. 689 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna miss it. 690 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 3: But it's just like AJ with batting practice, one more, 691 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: one more and only only players understand that joke. But 692 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with my Kratz Hats the team I 693 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 3: got drafted by. It's kind of a love hate relationship 694 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 3: for me because of different things that have happened throughout 695 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: my career. Chances not chances, traded, not traded, all that stuff, 696 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 3: but have they settled on a beautiful, beautiful logo which 697 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 3: throughout AJ's time, the Jays have changed changed more logos 698 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 3: than I changed teams. 699 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 2: Let's go Loue Jay, Let's let's play play ball, the 700 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: weirdest song, the funnest song. But at the end of 701 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: the daycrats an awesome place at Roger Centers. So if 702 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: you haven't been there, go there. Thank you Blue Jays. 703 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: We'll see you guys tomorrow.