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Speaker 2: there as always Jenkis and Jones hosted by Lejethro Jenkins

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Speaker 2: aka John what was it amp, Bubba Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, have produced by Jackson Stephon. That very active

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Speaker 4: on this episode, but come show Hello.

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Speaker 3: I'm guarding b.

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Speaker 2: Ak Mike mother fucking my mother fucking Mike Jackson. This

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Speaker 2: Wednesday morning game was two nights ago. Just doing my

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Speaker 2: usual check. I just got to make sure the show

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Speaker 2: list is correct. Game seven at Home in the Garden.

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Speaker 2: How many points did the Boston Celtics win by?

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Speaker 3: And how excited they won by?

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Speaker 1: Forty.

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Speaker 4: You didn't.

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Speaker 1: You didn't.

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Speaker 5: If you didn't realize that, then maybe we should do

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Speaker 5: then a little later, you should go watch the game.

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Speaker 1: They actually won by a lot.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome, that's crazy. Hold on, wait a minute,

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Speaker 3: I'm getting a report here from.

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Speaker 6: Folks.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 2: At what point in the game did you start to

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Speaker 2: think about how much.

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Speaker 3: You wish that your job was.

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Speaker 2: Not listening to Draymond Green and your friends at the

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Speaker 2: Jenkinson Jones show making fun of you for being a

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Speaker 2: Celtics fan.

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Speaker 5: I reconsidered live choices pretty early on, that's for sure. No,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's fine, it's whatever. I was bummed about it, honestly,

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Speaker 5: the fact that it was. It was so ugly the

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Speaker 5: whole game, like it wasn't. I think I would have

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Speaker 5: felt much worse if it.

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Speaker 1: Was a the reverse you got a chair white situation.

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Speaker 5: Or something not even that dramatic, like they were in

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Speaker 5: it at the end and then Jimmy Butler just ripped

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Speaker 5: our hearts from our chests in the fourth court, Like,

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Speaker 5: I think that would have been worse. This, this, that

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Speaker 5: would have been more like existential sort of dread. This

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Speaker 5: was just like, oh, right, of course, of course the

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Speaker 5: Celtics did all of this to come back to just

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Speaker 5: completely shit the bed in Game seven, of course they did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Also, tatum Angle injury twenty six seconds in took

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Speaker 5: a lot of air out of my sales, that's for sure.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, bro that I was like, and it was

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Speaker 6: hurt the entire game too. There was no you know,

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Speaker 6: we he never looked like himself for after that first

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Speaker 6: eight seconds of the game. But you know what, gohead ahead.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna say he had like fourteen and eleven, like,

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Speaker 7: you know, regardless of it the shot was off him

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Speaker 7: crashing the boards like that showed you that he was

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Speaker 7: you know, he liked that shit all out there on

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Speaker 7: one fucking ankle.

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Speaker 4: Right right.

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Speaker 6: He was giving you what he could give you, you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean, which was grit and grind, you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean. That's what that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It was a hater's delight because I love Tatum and

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Speaker 2: I was happy to be able to be like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: it's not a serious injury. You know, he'll be recovered,

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Speaker 2: you know, probably by the time the finals were over.

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Speaker 2: But it was like, so, you know, he's blamed free

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Speaker 2: in this, you know what I mean, Like he played

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Speaker 2: just the entire Celtics organization and their fan base, you know,

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Speaker 2: like clearly didn't have it. And there was no stress.

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Speaker 3: On my end. It was very clear.

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Speaker 2: Vinnie and I were jumping around the living room yelling

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Speaker 2: on these bumps like the entire second half. But I

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Speaker 2: TNT guys were talking about it, like, you know, all

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Speaker 2: the ex players wanted to play. Everyone was saying, it's like, man,

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Speaker 2: we've been at finals games it didn't have this. Like

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Speaker 2: you could just see the energy was crazy from like

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Speaker 2: the Celtics completely failed to tap into it, like if

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Speaker 2: they had made one three pointer in the first quarter, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like but it was like sitting on a diamond mine

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Speaker 2: and just never brushing the dirt off the top of

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Speaker 2: it or so. I mean, it was it was like

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Speaker 2: consistency was impressive.

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Speaker 3: I was impressed by one.

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Speaker 7: It's like, you know, going back to what we said

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Speaker 7: when we gave our Game seven previews, it was like, Bro,

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Speaker 7: I saw too much stupid in the fucking in that

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Speaker 7: third quarter Game six for the Celtics that picked them

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Speaker 7: in Game seven, and fucking supposed to show so that

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Speaker 7: shit too. When his eyes were wide as fuck when

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Speaker 7: he was banking on table, like let's run that shit

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Speaker 7: back right now, Like he knew those motherfuckers were food too,

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Speaker 7: Like I am not at all a fucking NBA championship

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Speaker 7: level coach, like supposed Bo might be the best fucking

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Speaker 7: coach doing it right now. I think Pop might pop

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Speaker 7: back into the conversationality. He's got a fucking weapon of

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Speaker 7: mass destruction coming his way. But but Bro, he had

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Speaker 7: the same type of face that I have when I'd

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Speaker 7: be like, I'm a lifelong Madden two K player, like

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Speaker 7: I had.

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Speaker 4: That was the same things I had when.

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Speaker 7: A motherfucker got went over me and I knew they

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Speaker 7: were gonna be food the next game because I knew

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Speaker 7: how to, you know, fucking neutralize whatever fuck they were doing.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, and they spanked the motherfuckers by twenty Goddamn.

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Speaker 6: You knew it was over with when it was Jalen

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Speaker 6: Brown time. You know what I'm saying when you gotta

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Speaker 6: rely on Jalen Brown to you know, to get you

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Speaker 6: over the hump. G you know what I mean, the

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Speaker 6: King of shot selection, bro, Like ninety percent of what

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Speaker 6: he does is absolutely unnecessary, Like do you need to

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Speaker 6: do this? If he asked himself this question, he wouldn't

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Speaker 6: make nine out of the ten decisions he makes on

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Speaker 6: the basketball court, and he would That would be a

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Speaker 6: great thing, you know what I mean, Like it being

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Speaker 6: Jaylen Brown time, if it like didn't involve him handling

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Speaker 6: the basketball, you know what I mean, Like Jalen Brown's

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Speaker 6: would be the maybe the best player in the world

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Speaker 6: if it didn't involve the actual basketball being handled dog

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Speaker 6: like eight turnovers two like a couple of them, just

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Speaker 6: absolutely unforced, like he he might as well been butt

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Speaker 6: naked in the gym just handling the ball, losing.

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Speaker 3: Like a couple of them.

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Speaker 6: Just nasty, bro, Just nasty decision making.

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Speaker 2: Gee, I agree with everything you just said, but the

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Speaker 2: sentence this about to get A Supermax player would be

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Speaker 2: a great basketball player if it wasn't for the basketball.

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Speaker 6: A guy that won sixty million would be one of

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Speaker 6: the best players in the world if it didn't involve

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Speaker 6: that orange ball. That is the most important.

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Speaker 8: Part of the game, you know what I mean, taking

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Speaker 8: care of that, bro, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: You want sixty million, and you like, like we were

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Speaker 6: talking before this with Jackson, you know, you will make

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Speaker 6: a great move and then lose the ball. Yet he'd

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Speaker 6: make a great move and then he'd be like, Jalen,

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Speaker 6: but you forgot the one thing.

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Speaker 8: You can't forget the basketball, brother, You know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: You're not a wide receiver, my guy. You have to

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Speaker 8: you know, you have to handle the ball while making

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Speaker 8: the move.

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Speaker 3: Jalen. That's important to the game. Mister.

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Speaker 6: I won sixty million year Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we ain't run the post routes out here, Bro,

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Speaker 7: you feel me, you know me great stutter step man,

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Speaker 7: But hey, the basketball is over there, go get it please.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You're feeding jamming him off the line though, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, he's breaking man press with zero fucking hesitation,

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Speaker 2: like just straight down the fucking field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Every great player has pluses and minuses to their game,

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Speaker 2: but it's crazy to have dribbling be a minus on

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Speaker 2: your game.

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Speaker 3: You just gotta improve his ability to driple.

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Speaker 5: It was also just like a perfect storm of both

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Speaker 5: unfortunate things and also like smart things by Spoe, like

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Speaker 5: the Tatum injury forcing Jalen to be to do more

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Speaker 5: ball handling than he normally would already bad start, and

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Speaker 5: then I saw the stat that Spoe had the heat

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Speaker 5: switch like sixty percent of their picking roles in this game,

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Speaker 5: and in the first six games he never done more

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Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, he's so smart.

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Speaker 5: Whether it was the plan going in or is an

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Speaker 5: these guys are not good ISO players. Specifically, that guy

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Speaker 5: is not a good ISO player when you have a

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Speaker 5: a good IO player against bad defense whatever, but going

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Speaker 5: against that defense, it's like, Okay, make him make more

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Speaker 5: that well. And to just make that adjustment, combined with

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Speaker 5: the Tatum injury, like all of the things sort of

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Speaker 5: happening at once, just resulted in the worst game I've

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Speaker 5: seen from a second team All NBA player in a

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Speaker 5: game seven.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, right, I mean, no doubt I have to say,

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Speaker 2: Joe Mozula some credit. As much as it's been he's

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Speaker 2: been a target to make fun of, but coming back

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Speaker 2: but he did, I thought kind of fall straight in

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Speaker 2: dispose plans by the way the Heat extended that zone

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Speaker 2: out and the Celtics responded in the second half by

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Speaker 2: putting in more shooters, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean. And it was like, that's what

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Speaker 3: they want you to do.

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Speaker 2: And then the Heat, like obviously every defensive game plan

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Speaker 2: has a weakness, they were really exposed on offensive rebounding,

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Speaker 2: which once again Jason Tatum's injury just kind of just

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Speaker 2: happened to play into the way that the Heat drew

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Speaker 2: it up. But they competed their ass off on the

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Speaker 2: boards with the little dudes trying to I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to guard the three point line and then get

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Speaker 2: back and get a rebound, like you know, it's difficult

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Speaker 2: to do. And I was very impressed by the way

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Speaker 2: they covered up their own potential weak spots. But I

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Speaker 2: didn't think the Celtics ultimately made much of an adjustment

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Speaker 2: to that, you know what I mean, Like you could

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Speaker 2: have tried to do almost literally anything else and they

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Speaker 2: just kept bombing and missing.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was hilarious, honest.

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Speaker 6: They were mixing that defense up a lot too, where

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Speaker 6: like if Jalen Brown is the primary ball handler and

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Speaker 6: We're just gonna get more shooters and shoot from thirty

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Speaker 3: Consistent way, like do you feel me? What are the

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Speaker 2: You saw when Bam came out of the game, it

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Speaker 6: I saw that.

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Speaker 5: The last thing I'll say, last two things I'll say

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Speaker 5: But the problem I think with the cells that a lot.

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Speaker 5: Game if they were all quality, right, but the Celtics

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Speaker 5: not you don't just chuck to chuck. It needs to

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Speaker 5: part of it's a little bit of a heat letdown, whatever,

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Speaker 1: X from the first three.

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Speaker 6: Yer feel that way.

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Speaker 5: In Game seven from a pure ever point, the heat

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Speaker 1: But like and they they did.

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Speaker 5: All the heat played great, but the defensive just the

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Speaker 1: That was frustrating.

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Speaker 7: But you know, I mean they talk about so go

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Speaker 7: the Celtics go from here? Because fucking Jalen's up for

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Speaker 7: two hundred and ninety million. We've got a lot of

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Speaker 4: Get in the bag.

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Speaker 7: Get the bag, like bro, like, even if I don't

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Speaker 7: think you're a good passball player, get every fucking penny

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Speaker 7: you can get. Even if I don't think that that,

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Speaker 7: you know, two hundred ninety million is what a championship

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Speaker 7: team should pay for you because you're gonna eat up

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Speaker 4: So where are we at with Jalen and the Celtics

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Speaker 2: Jackson, I want I want Jackson like what do you

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Speaker 2: want the Celtics like yeah, yeah, Like I mean, are

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Speaker 2: they are they?

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Speaker 3: Are they blowing it up bild around Tatum or this

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Speaker 5: Time I've been like, Okay, I'm open to like the

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Speaker 2: Even if you were actively like like you're a clown

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Speaker 9: Trading, because I thought that was for a while he

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Speaker 9: a couple of different options.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, even after the finals last year where he looked

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna make him go left every time, and he

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Speaker 5: Even after that, I was like, you know what, he's

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Speaker 5: Everyone relaxed, and I still sort of think that, like

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Speaker 5: Jason Tatum finished his age twenty four season, that's he's

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Speaker 5: not ready to put to push the panic button. I

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Speaker 5: think this roster, like with a couple of tweaks here

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Speaker 5: the new second aprin all this stuff penalizing teams with

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Speaker 5: I'm not I'm I certainly think they need to get

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Speaker 5: with the comeback.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they'll fire him?

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I think it's probably sixty forty

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Speaker 5: And then I think you can run it back with

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Speaker 5: making some ancillary moves, Like I think there's certainly ways

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Speaker 5: and like I wouldn't actually been but like, there are

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but I would be fine doing something

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Speaker 5: select few types of trades for Jaylen Brown. I think

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Speaker 5: Damian Lillard is one that people have talked about a

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Speaker 1: He's not a young small point guard.

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Speaker 5: But like, if you have a chance to get Damian

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Speaker 5: if the Clip are gonna blow it up or make

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Speaker 5: big changes, but like I would do Paul George, and

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Speaker 5: I trade him for a select few people? Yes, do

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Speaker 5: I think they need to trade him? No?

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Speaker 6: I think I think we go ahead.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I don't cut you off twice. No, go ahead,

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Speaker 7: I think there's there's a couple of points that came

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Speaker 7: we There was always, you know, the whisperings of hey man,

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Speaker 7: are we sure Jayson Tatum is the best player on

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Speaker 7: this team? Jayalen Brown sure does carry them a lot

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Speaker 7: ten fifteen years now. But if you look at you know,

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Speaker 7: Draymond who Draymond six said, but in all functionality, he's

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Speaker 7: Jamal and Yo and yok At you were in the finals.

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Speaker 7: You still need that inside out combination in this league.

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Speaker 7: Like for sure, it's a wings league, it's a guard

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Speaker 6: League I think the thing with JB is, like I tweeted,

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Speaker 6: it was like he's out there playing twenty one and

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Speaker 6: how to play basketball by playing basketball. This phil is great.

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Speaker 6: JB's phil is not good. His fool for the game

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Speaker 6: is not good. He takes he's good at making bad

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Speaker 6: That's why you say he's good at that. He's a

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Speaker 6: great I'm not saying I'm not like he deserved to

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Speaker 6: but when he's leading the break, he never passes, you

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Speaker 6: Like you know, this team is much better if they

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Speaker 6: Their first open three. Shoot it, No, my nigga, first

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Speaker 6: good three, you know what I mean. You don't have

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Speaker 6: so people were saying he's had his numbers were the best,

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Speaker 6: Like you know, I mean, objectively, you couldn't, you know,

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Speaker 6: deny that he was playing great basketball, you know what

443
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Speaker 6: I mean. But when it gets to like you're playing

444
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Speaker 6: teams that are basketball, professional basketball teams that will send

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Speaker 6: your ass left or put.

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Speaker 2: You adjustments, and then yeah, and he and he doesn't

447
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Speaker 2: have those adjustments that can be made.

448
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Speaker 6: He has one way of playing and that's it, and

449
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Speaker 6: it's not the most efficient way of playing, you know.

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Speaker 2: The The last thing I'll say, because I know we uh,

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Speaker 2: we've got a special guest coming on, we got to

452
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Speaker 2: get to in a minute, is you know where I

453
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Speaker 2: had to the extent that I had confidence picking the heat,

454
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Speaker 2: I was I was concerned about how they would bounce

455
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Speaker 2: back from Game six, which incredibly impressive the way they

456
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Speaker 2: clearly did that.

457
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Speaker 3: But if you just.

458
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Speaker 2: Looked at the two like locker rooms after the heat

459
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Speaker 2: were in disbelief, but their head coach was tweaking to

460
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Speaker 2: get back on the court, right and then it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's graduation season. I'm in a lot of high

462
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Speaker 2: school graduations this ship right now. That's what the Celtics

463
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Speaker 2: locker room look like it looked like the post graduation

464
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Speaker 2: after party. Jason Tatum's got his arms around Missoula. Everybody's

465
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Speaker 2: grinning like we fucking did it, And it was like

466
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Speaker 2: you just at the end of the day pro sports,

467
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Speaker 2: the margins are so thin, the team though it can't

468
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Speaker 2: wait to come out of kill you versus the team

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Speaker 2: that is so happy they just.

470
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Speaker 3: Pulled something off.

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Speaker 2: You gotta lean on the You gotta lean on the

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Speaker 2: spoch weaker side of that.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you, bro Jalen came to that motherfucking post

474
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Speaker 7: game in his jersey. They was celebrating that month. He

475
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Speaker 7: was popping bottles. He ain't hopping a shallower, put on

476
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Speaker 7: his street clothes and nothing. If they wasn't there throwing

477
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Speaker 7: a party he had on his Eastern Conference game seven.

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Speaker 6: Half last we made it.

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Speaker 5: Last thing before we bring on live is I want

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Speaker 5: to just shout out the Amazon amp chat. It has

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Speaker 5: never been this active, maybe maybe a couple of times

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Speaker 5: more since we're doing this show. Let me read you

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Speaker 5: a few Jackson pack in the hair eyeballs. Jackson's better

484
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Speaker 5: man than all of us are showing up Jackson Jackson

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Speaker 5: showed up very commendable. I'm glad he did wait to

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Speaker 5: stay ten toes down? Where can I get the Jackson

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Speaker 5: going home shirt? Put that man in the dirt. Put

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Speaker 5: Jackson ass in the.

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Speaker 9: Dirt, expose him. So are these people that know you

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Speaker 9: like personally? Shout out fourth member?

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Speaker 6: Gee, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: Listeners love Jackson, they just don't like the Celtics, that's

493
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Speaker 7: for sure. That's what I talked.

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Speaker 6: About because they love them.

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Speaker 7: Shout out the yeah, chat bro, speaking of ship talking,

496
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Speaker 7: did y'all hear the story and why Duncan Robinson was

497
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Speaker 7: talking ship to that Celtics crowd. Oh they said some

498
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Speaker 7: Celtics fan found out his number, put him in a

499
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Speaker 7: chat with like seventy other Celtics fans after game six

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Speaker 7: and we're talking ship to him. So good and duncle

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Speaker 7: Robinson forgetting this ship off right there.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: I kind of stay.

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Speaker 7: I know those yeah, because I know those Celtic expans.

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Speaker 7: So that white man talking shit to me and they

506
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Speaker 7: ain't know what's lurned throwing that man. Shout out to

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Speaker 7: Duncan Robinson. Right, we're getting this shit off right there

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Speaker 7: roads that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's tough because Duncan Robinson is everything they aspire to

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Speaker 2: on our volume teammate, the one and only Livemoods. I

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Speaker 2: think one of like two Nuggets fans with media personalities

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Speaker 2: in the whole country. Live Uh. This is the season

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Speaker 2: of Live Moody. Congratulations to you and your Nuggets. How

548
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Speaker 2: excited are you for the finals?

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Speaker 10: I'm so excited. I've actually had a really cool sports

550
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Speaker 10: year in general, with TCU going to the national championship.

551
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Speaker 10: Obviously they got their asses kicked, but still really cool,

552
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Speaker 10: like opportunities for content. I've been able to go to

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Speaker 10: the games. It's been really really fun. So yeah, US

554
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Speaker 10: Nuggets fans are coming out of the out of the

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Speaker 10: woods here and there's not many of us, but we're

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Speaker 10: here for sure.

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Speaker 4: We're here.

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Speaker 7: Okay, So first off, shouts to the blonde. I'll see

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Speaker 7: you and your Beyonce era, and shit, it's a good

560
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Speaker 7: looking liar.

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Speaker 10: Everyone look like Everyone's like, why would you change your

562
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Speaker 10: whole identity before the finals? The first ever Denver Nuggets Finals.

563
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Speaker 10: I'm like, shit, does my hair have that much power?

564
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Speaker 10: We're switching it up. We're switching it up.

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Speaker 7: But but honestly, we were, we were talking before we

566
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Speaker 7: started a recording. We're like, you and HP HP Basketball

567
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Speaker 7: like the only fucking media folks who are like die

568
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Speaker 7: hard Nuggets fans.

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Speaker 4: It feels like right, and I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 7: I'm speaking for myself and for the part here, I

571
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Speaker 7: think a lot of us out at the Nuggets here.

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Speaker 7: My personal thing on the Nuggets was I was not

573
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Speaker 7: I was never a joker now believer right. I thought

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Speaker 7: he was top five in the world after this postseason.

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Speaker 7: I will not argue with anyone says he's the best

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Speaker 7: basketball player in the world. My concerns were, I don't

577
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Speaker 7: know how you play him in MPJ, those you know,

578
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Speaker 7: so many minutes together without having a defensive presence there,

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Speaker 7: and Aaron Gordon stepped the fuck up on the defensive

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Speaker 7: end this postseason. Right, So I have nothing but respect

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Speaker 7: for the Nuggets. They have been the best team this postseason.

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Speaker 7: So how does it feel, as someone who has been

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Speaker 7: believing in them from day one to finally have people

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Speaker 7: kind of coming around on your team and seeing that

585
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Speaker 7: these boys are really really legit?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's been really fun, but you know,

587
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Speaker 10: don't get it twisted. They've been a mess. And I've

588
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Speaker 10: been to the games and I've been a fan for

589
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Speaker 10: a long time. I was like young when my one

590
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Speaker 10: of my favorite players was Birdman. I thought he was

591
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Speaker 10: like the COOLESTWKS. So I've seen this Nuggets team through

592
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Speaker 10: a lot of different eras, and I think that it's

593
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Speaker 10: never clicked. So they've always been like a decent team, right,

594
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Speaker 10: But there hasn't ever been like a clicking moment. And honestly,

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Speaker 10: I didn't even feel the click at the beginning of

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Speaker 10: this season. I really didn't feel that way until post

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Speaker 10: KCP Bruce Brown trade, and that was kind of when

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Speaker 10: I started to go, Okay, they've got something going here,

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Speaker 10: and I don't. And I'm not saying that who you know,

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Speaker 10: the people that got traded out were a part of

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Speaker 10: the problem, although I think they maybe were a little

602
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Speaker 10: bit boops.

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Speaker 6: I'm a big I gonna bring up the name, but

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Speaker 6: I'm a big fag. Come on, even, go ahead, go ahead,

605
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Speaker 6: I go go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 10: I won't name drop. But all I know is there

607
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Speaker 10: was some chatter about, you know, kind of a maybe

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Speaker 10: a sense of I don't want to say entitlement, but

609
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Speaker 10: there's a lot of good players on this Nuggets team,

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Speaker 10: and unless you're weelling you're willing to be selfless, it's

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Speaker 10: not gonna work with everything. Like there's so much talent

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Speaker 10: on this roster. And so I don't want to play

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Speaker 10: the blame game because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 10: there's a lot of different things that I don't know about,

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Speaker 10: conversations that are being had, whatever. But I think this

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Speaker 10: requires a certain level, like I said, of selflessness, because

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Speaker 10: it's not one of those teams where I talked about

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Speaker 10: this the other day, like Nicole jokicch and Jamal Murray.

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Speaker 10: This isn't like a you know, elite player that hopped

620
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Speaker 10: from one team to the next to chase a ring

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Speaker 10: like they started from the ground up, like they were stuck.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to say stuck with each other, but you.

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Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: They didn't choose this. You know, Jokic didn't jump ship

625
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Speaker 10: and go somewhere else to try to win a championship.

626
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Speaker 10: This is chemistry that's been building progressively over time, which

627
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Speaker 10: I think is why they're so stinking good. I mean,

628
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Speaker 10: they're just they've had to work with what they've got.

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Speaker 10: Jamal Murray obviously, after an insane twenty twenty performance, got injured.

630
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Speaker 10: They were forced to kind of figure things out without him.

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Speaker 10: I don't even think MPJ has reached his ceiling yet.

632
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Speaker 10: I really don't. I've always said he's great when he

633
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Speaker 10: wants to be, but I don't even think that we've

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Speaker 10: seen MPJ in his like full talent yet. So but again,

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Speaker 10: it requires him to be selfless. If he cared about

636
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Speaker 10: chasing his own stats, we would probably not have a

637
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Speaker 10: winning record. So I just think post trade mid season,

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Speaker 10: I think there was a clicking moment and that was

639
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Speaker 10: when it really started to become like, Wow, this team

640
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Speaker 10: is great. So I don't blame people for not necessarily

641
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Speaker 10: being you know, huge fans of the Nuggets or watching

642
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Speaker 10: the Nuggets, because I don't really feel like anything was

643
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 10: super clicking until this year. Yeah, so now they can

644
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 10: watch and pay attention.

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Speaker 3: I definitely realized what was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: When was it like Game two of the playoffs that

647
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Speaker 2: Murray had thirty seven points and it was like and

648
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Speaker 2: literally and was like like on the verge of tears

649
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Speaker 2: for the whole postgame interview talking about coming back from

650
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Speaker 2: being injured, and I was like, ah, fuck, like that's probably.

651
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Speaker 3: That's probably yes, you know, I think that too.

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Speaker 10: I mean anytime they come back from an injury that

653
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Speaker 10: serious too, you always worry about the potential of the

654
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Speaker 10: rust and like what is that going to look like

655
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Speaker 10: when they return. I think Jamal Murray and Yokich are

656
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Speaker 10: the best one two punch in the league right now

657
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Speaker 10: by a mile, and I think they've proven that this postseason. Yeah,

658
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 10: it was interesting when Jamal Murray went out. I just

659
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 10: felt like there was obviously a massive loss there, but

660
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 10: there was still a lot of talent. It just the

661
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 10: chemistry wasn't there. And I think Jokic and Jamal have

662
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 10: grown a lot together, not just individually, and that's been

663
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 10: really cool to see, and I think that's half of

664
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 10: the reason that they're doing so well right now.

665
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: Just a quick follow up on that, cause I think

666
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: you're exactly right. But I heard an interview with Michael

667
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: Malone where he was talking about how emotional the conversation

668
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: between him and Murray were after he towards acl that

669
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: he was like, coach, are you he asked me. He's like, coach,

670
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: are you guys gonna trade me? And he's like no, Like,

671
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: we're this is our group. We're going to keep this

672
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: group together. You're gonna get better. And then you know

673
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: last year that he basically had been clear to come

674
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: back in the playoffs, but he just didn't feel comfortable.

675
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: And then Malone was like, I want you to feel comfortable.

676
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: We're not trying to blow your confidence up like that is.

677
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of franchises left in the NBA

678
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: that are sticking with the coach through that and sticking

679
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: with the player through that, you know what I mean.

680
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: And I think there's clearly trust there.

681
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 10: There's a lot of trust in this organization, and I

682
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 10: think that is massive. I just think we're seeing with

683
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 10: this Nuggets team that it's really not just about talent

684
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 10: and skill. I mean, as much as we like to

685
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 10: think that it is, there's so much more to it.

686
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 10: And this Nuggets team, I just feel like they have

687
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 10: all the right They have all the right pieces to

688
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 10: the puzzle right now. That being said, could they still

689
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 10: blow it? Of course, this is sports, and I'm a

690
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 10: Broncos fan, so I never let myself get excited about

691
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 10: a damn thing. But that being said, they do have

692
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 10: what it takes, so you know, I'm excited, but I'm like,

693
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get too ahead.

694
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: You're not talking shit yet. I respect that.

695
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 10: Oh well, I am a little.

696
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: Sorry.

697
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 6: Mike Malone has his team thinking they're underdogs, and.

698
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: Michael Malone, Michael and Mike, how dare you?

699
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: I don't know?

700
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 6: Is a Jones listener If you're listening out there, Michael

701
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 6: Malone has his team thinking that they're underdogs. You feel

702
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, And it seems like the fans have

703
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 6: tapped in. Y'all been the best team you know in

704
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 6: the West all year?

705
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 3: Do y'all?

706
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 6: Y'all y'all feel like that even though you know, y'all.

707
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 4: You feel me.

708
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm gonna be honest, I don't. I don't

709
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 10: know where the hell this underdog shit came from. I've

710
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 10: been the number one team in the Western Conference all

711
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 10: year long. But what I think it, I think what

712
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 10: it boils down to is, and this is a conversation

713
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 10: we've had a million times, but it's the way that

714
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 10: the media speaks about this team. It's like, uh, good

715
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 10: job Nuggets, all right? Is Lebron really retiring? It's like,

716
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 10: what the hell? Like, that's not what the conversation should

717
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 10: be about. And so I feel like there's a lot

718
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 10: of people that just haven't felt like they can connect

719
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 10: to this Nuggets team because there's no there's no appreciation

720
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 10: for what they're doing. I think it's like we're kind

721
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 10: of in this world of basketball right now where it's like, Okay,

722
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 10: you've got the watchers that really love basketball, and you

723
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 10: have the watchers that love entertainment. If you want entertainment,

724
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 10: turn on Bravo TV or E News. I don't know

725
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 10: what to tell you. This is basketball. And so right now,

726
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 10: I feel like this Nuggets team is just playing a

727
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 10: really good game of ball and they don't have the

728
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 10: theatrics and the dramatics, so there's not a lot to

729
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 10: talk about, so we're not talking about them a ton,

730
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 10: and because of that, I think they feel overlooked, and

731
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 10: maybe that's where the underdog mentality came from. I think

732
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 10: it's more about being overlooked than it is about being underestimated,

733
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 10: although I do think there probably was some underestimation there,

734
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 10: and I think that probably stemmed from Yokic conversations because

735
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 10: there were a large sum of people that were like,

736
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 10: you know, kind of waving off what he's been doing

737
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 10: and how great he truly is.

738
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: So the whole conversation this year was nastytoos, and I

739
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: understand them being like, all right, fuck this.

740
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: You know.

741
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 10: I think it's more just like a they've, like I said,

742
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 10: they've been good, but it's like it hasn't been enough,

743
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 10: and finally it's enough, and now people are like, whoa

744
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 10: you know. I again, that's the comment that everyone says.

745
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 10: I didn't even know that Nuggets fans were a thing.

746
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 10: I'm like, yeah, we're here, we're just typically we don't

747
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 10: have much to talk about most times, so we're pretty silent.

748
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 10: But yeah, I personally, I've never viewed this team as

749
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 10: an underdog. I mean, I don't know how you you

750
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 10: you say a number one seed as an underdog by

751
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 10: any I think we're actually talking about like we're forgetting

752
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 10: that this is an eight seed versus a one seed

753
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 10: in the final. This is a very we're kind of

754
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 10: talking about it like they're on an even playing field

755
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 10: right now, and I don't understand it.

756
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 7: Now.

757
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 10: I'm not discrediting an eight seed because they're a very

758
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 10: dangerous one, but yeah, it's weird. It's just how we speak.

759
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 10: I think it's just how people speak about this Nuggets

760
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 10: team that probably feels a little you know, undervalued, if

761
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 10: you will. But I have never viewed them that way.

762
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 10: I don't know where that shit comes.

763
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: Right.

764
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, to your point about the Heat being an a seat,

765
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 7: they are unlike any eight seed we've ever seen, and

766
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 7: I think they are the best testaments so far to

767
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 7: how valuable the plan is because no team has missed,

768
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 7: you know, cumulatively more games from their players from their

769
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 7: roster than the Heat did, right, and so you know,

770
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 7: they would have been out of the playoffs, you know

771
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 7: if we just you know, stuck to the regular eight

772
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 7: and eight seed shit. But you know, they played their

773
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 7: way in and here they are fucking, you know, knocking

774
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 7: off everybody in the East and going up against the Nuggets.

775
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 7: So so yeah, I mean I think that's interesting to see.

776
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 7: You know, something else that's interesting to me is I

777
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 7: saw a stat on on Yolkic. I think I think

778
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 7: the the the belief that Yokic is food on defense

779
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 7: is so fucking overblown. One, I think is a solid defender,

780
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 7: and for two, I saw a stat that showed that

781
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 7: he gets he becomes a better rim defender in each quarter.

782
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 7: And what that shows me is that is a smart

783
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 7: basketball player who knows his physical limitations, is picking his

784
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 7: spots and because he doesn't want to foul out early

785
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 7: and then late in the game, he's letting it fly

786
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 7: and he's just you know, you know, holding his shit down.

787
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 7: So so yeah, man, it's it's it's it's really been

788
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 7: an interesting development for the Nuggets's postseason. Like you said,

789
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 7: a lot of people didn't believe in them, but I

790
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 7: think a lot of us were like, Okay, we know

791
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 7: that y'all are regular season monsters.

792
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: Show us in the postseason, and they for sure showed

793
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 4: us his postas correct.

794
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 10: Prove yourself. Everyone's been waiting for the moment to go.

795
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 10: We know Yolkic is good, we know Murray is good.

796
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 4: Prove it.

797
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 10: We live in a ring culture. It is what it is.

798
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 10: If you don't have a championship all of a sudden,

799
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 10: it's like, well, you might be good, but you're not

800
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 10: that good. It's like, so we've been waiting for this

801
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 10: moment for them to prove that they can do what

802
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 10: they've been doing on the biggest stage possible. And so yeah,

803
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 10: I mean, I it's so funny. I think I've cracked

804
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 10: the coat on Nikola Jokic because you talk about how

805
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 10: people like talk about how he doesn't play defense, which

806
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 10: as a fan, I can tell you sometimes I wish

807
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 10: he'd step it up a little bit, and I'm usually

808
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 10: coaching him from the living room, telling him to get

809
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 10: his shit together. I will tell you, I think what

810
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 10: people get so frustrated about with Jokic is that he

811
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 10: looks he appears to play lazy basketball, but what he

812
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 10: does is so effortless that I think people are like,

813
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 10: how the like, how, what in God's green earth? How

814
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 10: are you able to do what you do? Because he's

815
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 10: just kind of got this like he reminds me of

816
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 10: like Eyor from Winnie the Pooh, like he got like nonchalant,

817
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 10: like whatever. And that's not discrediting how talented he is,

818
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 10: but I think it rubs people sideways because it's like

819
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 10: you've got guys that are just hustling and they're aggressive

820
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 10: a Bruce Brown gets on the court. The effort is there,

821
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 10: the consistency is there, and Jokic is just like you know,

822
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 10: whenever I'm feeling it, except he's bawling on everybody. And

823
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 10: I think it's like, Okay, we've never seen somebody this good.

824
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 10: That's kind of like not not how do I say this?

825
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 10: He doesn't have he doesn't have the NBA look, Okay,

826
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 10: he really doesn't.

827
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like a big dope white guy.

828
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, I mean truly, if you did not pay

829
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 10: attention to the NBA and you saw him walking the streets,

830
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 10: like I highly doubt you would go. You see people

831
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,479
Speaker 10: and you're like, that's an athlete. They've got that the world.

832
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 6: He's a tall guy that works the Starbucks. That's what

833
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 6: he we'd say, you know what I mean, you know

834
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

835
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 10: So, and I think it drives people nuts, Like I

836
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 10: really do. I think it's it's frustrating to see somebody

837
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 10: so good at what they do and it looks like

838
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 10: they don't care. Yeah, I mean, this is the guy

839
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 10: that they've had to deliver him trophies insert like in Serbia,

840
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 10: because he's out there like riding horses on wagons and

841
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 10: like chilling, chilling with his people. But I think it's

842
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 10: so different from what we've seen that he's not he's

843
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 10: not a media personality. He's not he doesn't have social media.

844
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 4: He's still a great interview. He's a great interview.

845
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, he is, Oh, he really is. He's actually so

846
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 10: funny and I wish part of me wishes that he

847
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 10: had an Instagram or social media because he kind of

848
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 10: has that, ya honest, like dad joke and it's so

849
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 10: fun to watch. But yeah, I just think that he's

850
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 10: such a rare, a rare species in this league that

851
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 10: I think it just drives people nuts because he's just

852
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 10: so he's very untraditional, and I think that is really

853
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 10: hard for people.

854
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: I know, you got to get out of here, but

855
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: I have one last question.

856
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 6: I got one question took.

857
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm good, you guys, Okay, all right, My

858
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 2: question is you know you were into gambling. Obviously, sports

859
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: betting is like completely taken over professional sports. You're into

860
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: the You're into TCU, historic, memorable, unbelievable season, getting a

861
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: national championship game. You're a Nuggets fan. Nuggets are that

862
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 2: we believe one Seed the best basketball player in the world,

863
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: the favorites going to the finals.

864
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 3: It's a two part question. Number one, are you drunk

865
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 3: with power? And number two? What other things do you

866
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 3: like so that I can invest in them early?

867
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 10: Drunk with power? Listen. Something that I'm very proud of

868
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 10: is I'm I'm I'll stay humble, I'll talk my ship,

869
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 10: but I I like to you know, I like to

870
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 10: feel it out a little bit. I'm I mean, I'm

871
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 10: obviously so so excited for what the Nuggets have done.

872
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 10: I think what they've done is great and to be

873
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 10: a part of it and to be a fan of it.

874
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 10: That plus TCU and the ABS last year, so like,

875
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 10: I've had a really cool little little year here of

876
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 10: sports and being Yeah, I definitely feel like right now

877
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 10: on Twitter, I've got some powers. So funny people will

878
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 10: tweet it me like I'm on the damn team. Of

879
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 10: course they'll be like nice wind lib moods. I'm on

880
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 10: my ass drinking espresso.

881
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: Martine way to rotate on defensive live moods, tweet at

882
00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: me tough.

883
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 10: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't know to tell you.

884
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 10: I mean, so, I definitely feel like there's a level

885
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 10: of power that I have for sure, because the Nuggets

886
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 10: are just a rare fan base right now, and and

887
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 10: you know, people have already followed me prior to this,

888
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 10: and now you know they're like, oh, Nuggets, that's kind

889
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 10: of cool. And again they act like I'm suited up,

890
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 10: so I'll take it. I'm fine with that, like I'll

891
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 10: roll with it and whatever. But yeah, there's a little

892
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 10: bit of power there. And honestly, I don't know what

893
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 10: I did, Like, I don't know why the sports gods

894
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 10: are blessing me this way, but I feel like it's

895
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 10: like that moment where you're like, Okay, something's gonna Shit's

896
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 10: about to hit the fan at some point. It's not

897
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,479
Speaker 10: gonna be this good for this long. Something's going south.

898
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 10: So smart I'm remaining humble for now. But yeah, it's

899
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 10: been it's been awesome.

900
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 6: We talked about the heat being a ac I'm wondering

901
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 6: how nervous are you like with Spoe being a coach

902
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 6: and you know, y'all look like a machine, you know,

903
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 6: just running like a train running through people. You feel me,

904
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 6: But SPO's really good and like finding a weakness in

905
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 6: the machine and like mucking it up, you know what

906
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 6: I mean, fucking up some of the cogs in the

907
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 6: engine or whatever. You know, how nervous are you facing?

908
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 6: You know, this Heat team with the team that the

909
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 6: Nuggets team that is obviously way better, you know what

910
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 6: I mean?

911
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm nervous. I mean, I'm obviously, like I said,

912
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 10: I can talk shit with the rest of them, but

913
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 10: I'm fully aware that this is a very dangerous Miami

914
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 10: Heat team and Jimmy Butler is very dangerous. But I

915
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 10: think we've kind of had a little bit of a

916
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 10: break from the Nuggets, and I think people are starting

917
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 10: to forget just how great fundamentally they are across the board.

918
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 6: They don't take bad shots, they don't take bad shots.

919
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 10: They don't and God bless Bam outa Bio, but he's

920
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 10: not doing shit to stop yokish. I'm just sorry, go

921
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 10: fact there. Love Bam out of Bio, but he's not

922
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 10: gonna do shit. I think that we've got MPJ who's

923
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 10: got a size advantage in terms of the game that

924
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 10: he's gonna play Aaron Gordon on Jimmy Butler. I actually

925
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 10: love it, and I think that Aaron Gordon, he kind

926
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 10: of is a little selective about when he wants to

927
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 10: step up and be aggressive, but if he does, I

928
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 10: feel great about that. And Jamal Murray to me, can

929
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 10: hang with a Jimmy Butler. I think that offensively it's

930
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 10: gonna be just this three game. Miami obviously really really

931
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 10: great from the three in that last game against the Celtics.

932
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 10: Will they be that great again? I don't know. After

933
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 10: the All Star Break, this Denver Nuggets defense was top

934
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 10: five and three point defense. Yeah, So I'm I'm nervous

935
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 10: because it's sports and anything can happen, But I am

936
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 10: I really am so confident in what the Nuggets not

937
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 10: just have done right now, but they've done it all years.

938
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 10: So to me, it's like, just show up and play

939
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 10: your game. It is working. They're twelve and three in

940
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 10: the postseason right now, like what they're doing is obviously working.

941
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 10: So right now, I'm I'm going Nuggets in five. I

942
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 10: think that I the Nuggets the Nuggets and Jason timf

943
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 10: and I actually talked about this. He said, and I

944
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 10: agreed with him that the Nuggets are talented enough to

945
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 10: sweep this Miami Heat team, But it feels disrespectful to

946
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 10: say that because of what the Heat had been doing.

947
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 10: Like when you think sweep, you're like, there's a huge,

948
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 10: you know, disadvantage here, and that's not what we're working with.

949
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 10: But this Nuggets team is just they're smart basketball players,

950
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 10: and I think that's going to be their advantage. I

951
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 10: do think the one thing that he has right now

952
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 10: for sure is a coaching advantage. But everything else I

953
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 10: lean Nuggets here. So I'm gonna say Nuggets in five

954
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 10: is what I like. But of course I'm nervous because

955
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 10: shit hits the fan all the time, so who knows.

956
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 10: But I'm pumped. I'm ready. I'm ready for some damn basketball.

957
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 3: It's only been what like day layoff since for the Nuggets.

958
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 10: That's tough, all right, I'm ready to go.

959
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for hopping on with us.

960
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 2: Appreciate I appreciate that we'll have to have you on

961
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: if if things go your guys way, if they don't,

962
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 2: or if they don't.

963
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: We only talk shit, did you.

964
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 10: I should fly out to Denver and we can go

965
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 10: to the parade.

966
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, we can tap.

967
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 10: It sports party.

968
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: That yeah, flat side of Denver.

969
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 7: Bro leg out there, people out there there my party,

970
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 7: kicking with the family a little bit.

971
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 4: You feel me.

972
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 3: I always had a great time in Denver, you know

973
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: what I mean? We could go.

974
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: I could go meet my second, third, and fourth ever

975
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: Nuggets fans I've ever met.

976
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: We get out to that fun with the lib moves

977
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 3: being number one ship, I y'all know, I got a

978
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: little homie on the on that team.

979
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 10: Bro.

980
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 3: They got a parade, I'm I might have to pull

981
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: up to it. Facts.

982
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: One of the one of my favorite nights ever of

983
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: my life was we were covering the n cua A

984
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: Track finals the night that Jordan Bell won the title

985
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: with the Warriors, and so we were just on the

986
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: we run a big group FaceTime with a bunch of

987
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: other poly people and it's like, this is the craziest

988
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 2: ship I ever seen in my life. So I would

989
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: I would be very down to get out there for

990
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: the championship parade for sure. All Right, Well that was

991
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 2: obviously most of our preview. But but but quickly, what

992
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: what are you? What are your guys' thoughts? We got

993
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: Game one tomorrow. She actually called my prediction exactly. I

994
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: got Nuggets in five. I have nothing but respect for Spoe.

995
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 2: I have respect for the way that he'd have played,

996
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: but both exits and I mean it's like heart and brain,

997
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: it just all aligned on. I just don't see them

998
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: having it in them to really push the Nuggets in

999
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: this series. I think the games will be fun, but

1000
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a decisive Nugget series win.

1001
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: I got Nuggets in six.

1002
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 7: I remember when we were doing some playoff previews and

1003
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 7: I was like, you know, if there's six game series

1004
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 7: where you have no doubt in mind the team's gonna win,

1005
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 7: And I was like, what the fuck does that happen?

1006
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 7: I was like, bro, we just saw that with the

1007
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 7: Nuggets and Phoenix. This see this postseason, right. I think

1008
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 7: it's gonna be one of those series where where I

1009
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 7: think Miami gets too, but there's no doubt in our

1010
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 7: minds that you know, the Nuggets are the better team

1011
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 7: than the Nuggets are gonna win the series. It just

1012
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 7: feels so disrespectful picking against any team in this series, though,

1013
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, like both of these seems

1014
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 7: to have been fucking remarkable this postseason.

1015
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 6: It I find it hard to see, you know, spowing

1016
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 6: them not get two. It's difficult. I mean, it could

1017
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 6: very well be a sweep. I think the Nuggets are

1018
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 6: that much better talent wise. And I think this is

1019
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 6: the first professional basketball team from the players to the

1020
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 6: coach that they faced, you know what I mean, They're

1021
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 6: not gonna make the dumb mistakes that the that the

1022
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 6: Heat take advantage of or have taken advantage of in

1023
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 6: the last few series. So and they got you know

1024
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 6: when like she she brought up like you know, you know,

1025
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 6: Murray and and and and and Jimmy, Like I think

1026
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 6: Murray got just as much dog in him as as

1027
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 6: Jimmy does. You know what I mean?

1028
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 7: I think they can go dog for dog when it

1029
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 7: comes to points for game in the Western coas fuck you.

1030
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 6: Mean twenty twenty six point fourth quarter something like whatever,

1031
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 6: the twenty three point fourth quarter, Like bro, he got

1032
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 6: it in him. So I don't know, man, you know,

1033
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 6: I see it. It could be a sweet But I

1034
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 6: would say it's hard to see this this Heat team

1035
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 6: not get too So I will stay six too, but

1036
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 6: like you said, just a decisive six six game.

1037
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: Series, Jackson, Are you still there, Jackson? Helle, how do

1038
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 3: you how do you think that? How do you think

1039
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: the Celtics are gonna do?

1040
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 6: You got him right in the middle of the Biden

1041
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 6: breakfast sandwich.

1042
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: He has sausage and great.

1043
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 6: Tell you right now yourself, right now, that's what I'm

1044
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 6: about to do. As soon as I get off here,

1045
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 6: I'm making.

1046
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: A breaking something disrespectful.

1047
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: I was just saying, how do you think how are

1048
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: the Celtics gonna do in the NBA Finals? Trying to

1049
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: win Banner ap trying to win the same their second

1050
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: championship since nineteen eighty six.

1051
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: That's all the time we got.

1052
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: We'll have to get to Josh Hart's tweet maybe on Saturday, yeah, because.

1053
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: That's what he was talking about there. But we I

1054
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: think me and Tyler talked about that in the pod prior.

1055
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1056
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 3: I've had my experiences. I can say hips I have thoughts.

1057
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 4: All right too.

1058
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 6: It's just one of them.

1059
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: But let's go on to the If you if you

1060
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: tuned in to U to hear Jackson do his penance

1061
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: for being a Celtics fan I hope that was everything

1062
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: you were looking for.

1063
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 3: We'll see you a couple of days. Bye bye

1064
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 6: Yeah,