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Speaker 7: right now we welcome in a Thursday tradition here on

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Speaker 7: the show. He's the one and only Albert bri your

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Speaker 7: senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at d M MQB.

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Speaker 7: Get them on X at Albert Breer. By the way,

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Speaker 7: apparently a baseball savant or insider if you will, because

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Speaker 7: I was looking at your X feed yesterday, Albert, and

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Speaker 7: I saw this guest. Third base ain't all it's cracked

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Speaker 7: up to be. So what baseball reference were you referring

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Speaker 7: to there?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Just uh, you know, I just you know, sometimes I

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Speaker 9: don't like to cross over another sports that's all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you are.

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Speaker 5: You got to be ashamed of yourself. Man, That programs

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Speaker 5: for a.

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Speaker 9: Lot of Hey, and I thought listening to Indiana was

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Speaker 9: bad news.

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Speaker 8: I guess yesterday gave me some perspective on.

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Speaker 3: All Oh dude, do that geez wow.

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Speaker 6: I mean, let's not distract from the initial point of

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Speaker 6: the mush. All right, you show up at all high

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Speaker 6: state games, they've got a losing record.

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Speaker 3: With you there, you'd be like, well, you know they're

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Speaker 3: gonna winning worker versus Notre Dame. What is with you

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Speaker 3: showing up at games and they're not playing well? Albert?

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Speaker 9: You know what? Like, I don't know, I think part

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Speaker 9: of the problem. But I'm going to all these really

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Speaker 9: high leverage games. I think I need I need to

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Speaker 9: make my way to a few more like Ohio State,

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Speaker 9: Michigan State, or Ohio State Rutgers. Like maybe that's the problem.

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Speaker 9: That's my second one two game of the year. I

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Speaker 9: actually I'm not one and one in those, by the way,

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Speaker 9: So yeah, I mean I get I think that may

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Speaker 9: be the problem, is that all the games I go

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Speaker 9: to are are just these high leverage one two, two

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Speaker 9: But again, like I wouldn't want to take away from

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Speaker 9: the news of the day.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Were talking about what do you know albert in it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, what do you got, Well, I don't I mean

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Speaker 9: this whole situation, Brady. I'm sure you guys.

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Speaker 8: Have heard, Like I.

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Speaker 9: There was stuff floating around two months ago, just like

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Speaker 9: lot of times people will start to kind of circle

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Speaker 9: pro and everything else. You know, one thing that I

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Speaker 9: I don't know how much of it related to this.

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Speaker 9: I hadn't heard about this stuff specifically, like involving Sharon.

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Speaker 9: not sure, but I mean, I I don't know. You

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Speaker 9: would have to think they would have to hit reset

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like it.

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Speaker 10: Do you think do you think it was Albert Do

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Speaker 10: you think it was more mean, I mean, just from

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Speaker 10: your your perspective of what you've heard that was circulating around.

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Speaker 10: Do you feel like this was more geared towards getting

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Speaker 10: like this is like this is a bad situation and

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Speaker 10: the school was more so forced into the actions that

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Speaker 10: timing of it all is you know, it's a horrible

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Speaker 10: time for Michigan to have to look for a new

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I wonder Levar's it a little about

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Speaker 8: you know what I mean, like I I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, like they they obviously had like you know,

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Speaker 9: Know about about about ever you know.

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Speaker 8: Having to ever accepting sanctions or firing people over it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're eleven and six in conference play, and if

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Speaker 6: I do hope people realize the early commits who had

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Speaker 6: They're breaking that agreement. It's not like people say that,

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Speaker 3: They're not stuck with Michigan for the next year or whatever.

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Speaker 8: That was Julian sane, right, yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean Julian saying signed with Alabama. Actually I think

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Speaker 7: So let me ask you about the news, which it

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Speaker 5: How did this happen?

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Speaker 8: Look at our options, which provoked the conversation on Sunday

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Speaker 8: Phillip twice a week. You know, they actually exchanged film.

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Speaker 8: Philip runs a version of Shane's offense, you know, with

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Speaker 8: the high school that he that that he coaches in Alabama,

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Speaker 8: They were together for eight years with the Chargers, and

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Speaker 8: you know, Shane just said to Chris like what about

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Speaker 8: you a little bit. So that happened on Monday, and

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Speaker 8: I think officiating is a big one, Brady, you know,

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Speaker 8: I'd be surprised.

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Speaker 7: Get him on x at Albert Breer, maybe, you know,

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Speaker 7: just last last thoughts on Ohio State, following that difficult

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Speaker 7: I mean, I.

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Speaker 6: I was you said that you were right, Albert, that's

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Speaker 8: But you look at the job he's done, and he

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Speaker 8: deserves all the credit that he's got. But I now,

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Speaker 8: it just blew me away. And I know there's an

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Speaker 8: easy comparison there because he worked for Nick, but like

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Speaker 8: he said, like he's like Nick in so many different ways,

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Speaker 8: and yeah, it's just incredible what they've done.

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Speaker 6: No, it's funny. Tom Ronoldays said the same thing I said.

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Speaker 6: When you sat down with him and you've talked to both,

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Speaker 6: obviously a number of times he goes he's Nick Saban,

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Speaker 6: he goes, that's how And honestly, like I was telling

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Speaker 6: these guys, like he has them so locked in and

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Speaker 6: so process oriented that it's it's hard to get an

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Speaker 6: appreciation for until you're on the field and you see

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Speaker 6: the differences between the teams they go up against. I mean,

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Speaker 6: they do not look like they would be able to

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Speaker 6: compete with the likes of an Ohio State or so

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Speaker 6: these other bigger programs. And when you see those the

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Speaker 6: way those kids play, how well they're coached, how well

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Speaker 6: they do their job, and they just they continually do

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Speaker 6: all the things that they're asked to do time and

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Speaker 6: time again versus the best opponents. It's incredible. It really

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Speaker 6: is incredible to watch. I was going to ask you

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Speaker 6: quickly because I know joy.

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Speaker 8: To your point. One of these scouts that I talked to,

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Speaker 8: like just to what you're saying. He said, he's like,

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Speaker 8: it's like a cult and like a good life.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to go there. Yeah, that's that's a

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Speaker 3: great that's a great line.

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Speaker 6: Okay, the coach at you, maybe yeah, maybe it'd be

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Speaker 6: more than what has it been eighty years since they

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Speaker 6: want to outright Big ten championship. I was going to

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Speaker 6: ask you quickly on the coaching front, because you didn't

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Speaker 6: mention Chris Sinnetti and and the potential of him coaching

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Speaker 6: at the next level. There's a lot of talk around

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Speaker 6: Marcus Frame, and there's a lot of talking specifically about

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Speaker 6: the New York Giants. We both know there's ties there

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Speaker 6: to the Notre Dame program, but what about some other

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Speaker 6: jobs too.

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Speaker 3: He's been one of the.

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Speaker 6: Names that has kind of serviced not just for that job,

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Speaker 6: but other potential openings. It feels like teams look at

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Speaker 6: him and they don't give him that like, well, he's

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Speaker 6: a college football coach, can he do it at the

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Speaker 6: next level? Like he's not getting that tag or people

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Speaker 6: aren't looking.

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Speaker 3: Aim that way.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, like I would say, part of

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Speaker 8: this Brady is like a result of like the fact

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Speaker 8: that there aren't a ton of obvious candidates this year,

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Speaker 8: you know, in other words, like last year at this point,

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Speaker 8: I think I said this two guys last week. But

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Speaker 8: like last year at this point, I think, you know,

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Speaker 8: I would have been able. I would have told you,

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Speaker 8: and not that this would have made me a genius,

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Speaker 8: but I would have told you, like Ben Johnson, Mike

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Speaker 8: Rable will get jobs, right Like I would have felt

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Speaker 8: very very confident saying that, And you know, obviously it

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Speaker 8: wound up, you know, like that both those guys got

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Speaker 8: their jobs. And I think every year you have a

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Speaker 8: couple of guys like that, and this year you really don't,

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Speaker 8: you know, so I think it's forced the Giants and

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Speaker 8: the Titans and whoever else is going to be out

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Speaker 8: there to start to look under every rock, and that

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Speaker 8: means being open minded to Maybe it's not an offensive

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Speaker 8: guy being open minded to, you know, maybe there is

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Speaker 8: somebody in the college ranks. And I do think for

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Speaker 8: Marcus Freeman, you know, one thing that helps is the

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Speaker 8: success of guys like Dan Campbell and like Frabel, right like,

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Speaker 8: and that Marcus was a former player, you know, he

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Speaker 8: did play in the NFL. It was brief, you know,

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Speaker 8: and that an injury cut that short, but he did

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Speaker 8: play in the NFL, and he does have like that

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Speaker 8: sort of gravitas, you know what I mean. Like, so

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Speaker 8: I think because of the success of guys like Rabel

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Speaker 8: and Campbell, you look at like, okay, like how did

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Speaker 8: those guys do it? It wasn't necessarily be by being

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Speaker 8: a guru on one side of the ball or the other.

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Speaker 8: It came from being a really smart guy, a guy

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Speaker 8: who command respect right away, and a guy who could

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Speaker 8: be a CEO of a program, you know. And I think,

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Speaker 8: you know, from that perspective, Marcus checks a lot of

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Speaker 8: those boxes, you know, And so I think that's why

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Speaker 8: why you would look at like a Marcus Freeman if

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Speaker 8: you're if you're an NFL team, I don't have any

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Speaker 8: indication that that he's leaving Notre Dame, you know, like,

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Speaker 8: but but I do think like he he has you know,

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Speaker 8: positioned himself in a way where, you know, his success

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Speaker 8: at Notre Dame and his ability, his ability to captivate

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Speaker 8: people and run a program, and you know, and and

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Speaker 8: and and succeed in the modern era, which is a

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Speaker 8: lot more like the NFL at the college level. You know,

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Speaker 8: I think has at least drawing the interest of NFL

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Speaker 8: folks where they're looking at it and saying, could this

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Speaker 8: guy be our version of Dan Campbell or Mike Rabel?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, uh well, Abe always appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: You can get him on x at Albert Breer, senior

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Speaker 7: NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the m m QB,

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Speaker 5: Albert will do it again next week, all right, now

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Speaker 5: there he is.

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Speaker 10: All right, agreed, they got the playoffs. You know they

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Speaker 10: did this last year.

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 10: We'ven make it to the to the championship game. So,

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Speaker 10: and they're the best team in the college football playoffs,

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Speaker 10: so he's.

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Speaker 3: Still going to get the last laugh. They have the

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Speaker 6: So as far as the game's coming up, you know,

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Speaker 6: if they can do what they did last year, if

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Speaker 7: ask you this, Brady, on the subject of Marcus Freeman,

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Speaker 7: because we talked obviously about Sharon Moore getting fired by

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Speaker 7: in place of him. With it this late in the process,

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Speaker 7: but with the Marcus Freeman stuff, Like, I know that

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Speaker 7: I'm not going anywhere, Like I'm not.

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't know. Whatever job you take.

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Speaker 7: In the NFL is going to be a bad team,

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Speaker 5: I just don't I don't know why.

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Speaker 7: What would be the appeal other than a boatload of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, I think Nonadame would look to match that.

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Speaker 6: So I don't know that it's going to come down

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Speaker 6: to money. I think it just comes down to the

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Speaker 6: aspirations of a man. Like a lot oftentimes, when you coach, well,

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Speaker 6: let's just start off with this, You play and you

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Speaker 6: try to exhaust that to the highest level possible, right,

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Speaker 6: And as players, we all want to win the ultimate

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Speaker 6: goal when you get in the NFL, and that's a

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Speaker 6: super Bowl. So it's no different once you get into coaching.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure there's that thought in your head of hey man,

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Speaker 6: I've been successful at doing this at the college level.

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Speaker 6: That's why they're looking at me for the NFL if

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Speaker 6: I go there. How awesome would it be to win

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Speaker 6: a Super Bowl for the New York Giants, right like

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Speaker 6: or any other team that I think he's been linked to.

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Speaker 6: He interviewed for the Bears last year. So those goals

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Speaker 6: and aspirations and those things you know when you're successful,

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Speaker 6: they're out there for you, and I think for someone

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Speaker 6: I feel like even if you went up there and

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Speaker 6: he ends up taking. You know, I don't know what's

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Speaker 6: in his heart. I think he's not a great job

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Speaker 6: at Notre Dame and I think he would be missed.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, you know, you can't blame

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Speaker 3: I've said this too.

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Speaker 6: If the Ohio State job ever came open, and if

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Speaker 6: he left Notre Dame for Ohio State, Like, to me,

658
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 6: that's understandable.

659
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: That's his alma mater and he's from the state of Ohio.

660
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 6: So there's a lot of things there too, where it's

661
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 6: it's to me these coaching decisions when they decide to leave,

662
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 6: and it's not them being fired. Oftentimes, I just try

663
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 6: to look at it from their perspective as to what

664
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 6: makes it that next opportunity so attractive, and if it's understandable, like,

665
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 6: you can't blame someone for wanting to do that. So

666
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 6: I again, I understand the interest. I understand what you're

667
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 6: saying too, and I think there's a lot of validity

668
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 6: to it.

669
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Speaker 3: But at some point he might say, like, I can

670
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: always come back to college football. You know, there's only

671
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: so many times you get a shot to go up

672
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: to that NFL level.

673
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 6: And the Giants are a great organization and it's a

674
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 6: big market, and he might, you know, look at it,

675
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 6: evaluate it differently. And by the way, I'm sure the

676
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 6: Giants are not the only one he's gonna be linked to.

677
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 6: So this this will it will be interesting to see

678
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 6: how this plays out. I think it's it's funny that

679
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 6: everyone thought, with them deciding not to go to a

680
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 6: bowl that it was specifically about the ESPN thing. There's

681
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 6: a little more working behind the scenes, you know, as

682
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 6: far as you know, for as far as the attraction

683
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 6: that he is at the NFL level to other jobs.

684
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: And I would say this too.

685
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 6: I thought one of the interesting things was people are

686
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 6: getting upset we're talking so much abot notre dame this week.

687
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 6: Isn't that kind of the point? Like, isn't that kind

688
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 6: of the point of Like ESPN has not stopped talking

689
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: about this. We haven't stopped talking about it. No one

690
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: else on any other radio show or if they else

691
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 6: has has stopped.

692
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: Talking about it.

693
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's why, Like as much as people hate

694
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 6: to admit it, and you're gonna say it's oh because

695
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 6: your bus you're a neuter dame, you're right, I am.

696
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 6: But also, doesn't this prove the point. It's Thursday, we're

697
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 6: still talking about this. If they were snubbed out of

698
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 6: the playoffs, you know, or if they weren't snubbed out

699
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 6: of the playoffs, we'd be probably talking about them as

700
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 6: a part of whatever the playoff is.

701
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: They'd still be a part of that conversation. But now

702
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 3: they're not.

703
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 6: And yet ESPN, everyone else, every other media outlet's still

704
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 6: using them to get clicks. I see people writing articles

705
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 6: about what they are in their teving ratings, and people

706
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 6: hit us up on Twitter like.

707
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about it for four thirty in a row. Dude,

708
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 3: I don't make the news. I don't make the rundown.

709
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 6: That's not how this works, right, Like they're just their

710
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 6: topical is something to talk about. I did find an

711
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 6: interesting too, Ivan Maselle, who was writing a book I

712
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 6: believe on New Rockney and he was supposed to speak

713
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 6: tomorrow at Notre Dame's bookstore, and I guess the event

714
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 6: got canceled, which was completely new to like anyone within

715
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 6: the administration and Notre Dame. I'm not sure someone had

716
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 6: put out there, like maybe it was a safety concern

717
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 6: because he sits on the college full playoff committee and

718
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 6: they were concerned about him coming there and now working

719
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 6: out for a Notre Dame.

720
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: What that would mean. It's back on the whole thing

721
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 3: was blown out of proportion.

722
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 6: Of course, social media did their thing, and it was

723
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 6: like all the actual people involved with the administration and

724
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 6: the athletics department were like unaware of any of this happening,

725
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 6: and so they reached out and you know, they obviously apologized.

726
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: Everything's back on as it was.

727
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 6: But it was just kind of it was funny how

728
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 6: much people try to like downplay Notre Dame's impact, yet

729
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 6: it's basically taken up this entire week of content.

730
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 7: I mean, like, what what did people expect? Like what

731
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 7: else was the big story from from college football? Should

732
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 7: we break down like the the old mismatchup?

733
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 10: Like okay, fun you've seen that it's bigger. It's it's

734
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 10: certainly not bigger than the news that broke yesterday. So

735
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 10: I don't think anybody should be but heard over talking

736
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 10: about Notre Dame as much as Notre Dames wouldn't discuss.

737
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 5: It's a it's a program, it's a brand name.

738
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 7: It's like we're talking about the Penn State stuff, Like, well,

739
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 7: why do you guys, what what else were you supposed

740
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 7: to talk about? It's a big time school, it's a

741
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 7: blue blood program, and they're in the middle of a

742
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 7: coaching search and there's storylines attached to it, Like what

743
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 7: else are you supposed to do? Like like shoehorn in

744
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 7: you know something about you know, Texas Tech and their

745
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 7: their linebacker who looks like Tom Selleck, Like, what are

746
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 7: you supposed to do?

747
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 6: Like it just that's a compliment. And he's got a

748
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 6: great mustache. I don't know that I'm gonna throw them

749
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 6: in Tom Selleck category.

750
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 5: It's pretty sweet.

751
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 6: It's an awesome must I mean it is one of

752
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 6: the greatest mustaches that I've seen in college.

753
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,959
Speaker 5: Football for that age.

754
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 10: Damn it, Tom, Look is that is high praise.

755
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That might be an

756
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: old timer there, right.

757
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, man, magnum Pire come home.

758
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 8: Bro.

759
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, that lustache got him so much. I did

760
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: it so much.

761
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, undefeated, he got him on undefeated.

762
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what you referred to as.

763
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 6: By the way, Urban Meyer has an old photo with

764
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 6: a mustache. And we were sitting there looking around on

765
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 6: one time. We're like, coach, you need to bring this

766
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 6: back and he's like, oh no, I can't do that.

767
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: I can't do that. And I was like, coach, didn't

768
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: work and he goes, that's all I got. Shelly. I

769
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: was like, all right, all right, he's that's all I got.

770
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: My wife. I was like, all right, it works, man,

771
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: if you can grow one.

772
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 5: And grow one, uh Barley alone.

773
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Speaker 10: I'm not messing with it.

774
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: Say what you want to say, man, no, because.

775
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,960
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776
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Speaker 5: By Lary Ray. What do we got Ooh?

806
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 12: Well, it's not often I actually catch something live. I

807
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 12: don't watch a lot of games, but I was watching

808
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 12: that Chargers game on Monday Night Football and there was

809
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 12: a little altercation I guess you could call it at

810
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 12: the end. After Herbert led the Chargers to their victory,

811
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 12: he led himself to a fine Yes, Monday Night Football

812
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 12: reporter tried to interview him post victory, and he initially

813
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 12: denied her and tried to walk away. Hey, Patrick Gore,

814
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 12: gonna play the sound.

815
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 5: On the time of thought my day, I know, but

816
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 5: can we just talk early.

817
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 12: Past that little interaction of saying no. He then turned

818
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 12: around and did the interview, but he got fined seventy

819
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 12: five thousand dollars for that No.

820
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 5: Yes, he did the interview.

821
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 3: Five hundred. Okay, let's just paint the entire picture here.

822
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: Seventy He was chasing tho, she was chasing him.

823
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 6: He said no, I want to go celebrate with my teammates,

824
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 6: and then he kind of turned back around to do

825
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 6: the interview.

826
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: He did the interview. He wasn't really even that short,

827
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: although there's a couple short responses.

828
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 6: I kind of see both sides of this, Like, you know,

829
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 6: as a quarterback after a game you win, they're gonna

830
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 6: pull you aside and want to talk to you, and

831
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 6: there's a lot of things to talk about in regards

832
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 6: to his injuries, et cetera.

833
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: But at the same time, too, it's like.

834
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 6: He did end up doing the interview. I just think

835
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 6: the NFL is trying to make an example. They don't

836
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 6: want this to become common, and they want to make

837
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 6: sure that every single media party is well respected.

838
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Speaker 3: And I also wonder that this was an ESPN game, correct, Yeah,

839
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Speaker 3: Monday Night.

840
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 6: Well, remember too, the sale that has recently occurred between

841
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 6: those two, the NFL and Disney and ESPN.

842
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: So I also wonder too if internally there's even more.

843
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 6: So we need to make sure that we send a

844
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 6: very very strong message that when you're asked to be

845
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 6: interview postgame, you interview.

846
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: There's no questions about it.

847
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 12: Yes, and the NFL did release a statement saying we

848
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 12: expect all players to have full availability pre and postgame

849
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 12: to give the fans what they want.

850
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 10: I don't have a problem with giving the fans what

851
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 10: they want and being available, But seventy five thousand dollars

852
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 10: to have that interaction, that's excessive. That's like crazy excessive.

853
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.

854
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 10: Like I get it, I get it, like seventy seventy

855
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 10: five hundred and ten thousand, Hell go fifteen thousand, but

856
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 10: seventy five geez, I don't think so that's excessive.

857
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, just ridiculous.

858
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 7: And by the way, shouldn't there be like you got

859
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 7: a pr person there, that should be kind of an aviatable.

860
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 6: Or just even a warning by the way, Yeah, like

861
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 6: we can't get a warning first seventy five grand I

862
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 6: would rather.

863
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 12: Watch them celebrate, to be honest, go jump around over.

864
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 7: With all those guys for me, Well yeah yeah, guy's

865
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 7: got a broken he always has to come back, willing

866
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 7: to celebrate the fall.

867
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 5: She wants to day for dinner.

868
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Speaker 12: Anyways, have a good weekend, guys. I'll see you later.

869
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Speaker 10: But alright, alright,