1 00:00:08,245 --> 00:00:14,245 Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hi, everyone, and welcome to another episode 2 00:00:14,325 --> 00:00:17,365 Speaker 1: of Cadaver Gals. Yes, this is the podcast where we 3 00:00:17,405 --> 00:00:21,165 Speaker 1: talk about weird ways that people have died. Totally normal thing, 4 00:00:21,285 --> 00:00:24,645 Speaker 1: totally normal hobby to have, right, we should not be worried. 5 00:00:24,725 --> 00:00:27,645 Speaker 1: It's okay, I have a therapist appointment tomorrow. I am Mika, 6 00:00:27,765 --> 00:00:30,885 Speaker 1: one of your three hosts, along with Taylor Hi Hi 7 00:00:31,525 --> 00:00:38,205 Speaker 1: and Gabye Hi. Yeah. Yeah, that's how you pronounce That's 8 00:00:38,205 --> 00:00:44,205 Speaker 1: how you pronounce her name. Godbye, Hi, Gabye hib So. 9 00:00:44,245 --> 00:00:47,245 Speaker 1: On today's show, we're going to be exploring how laughing 10 00:00:47,525 --> 00:00:50,645 Speaker 1: as a scary scary thing and why bouncy castles are 11 00:00:50,645 --> 00:00:54,365 Speaker 1: actually omens of death. Oh yes, so, as always, we 12 00:00:54,405 --> 00:00:57,245 Speaker 1: have some trigger warnings because for some reason some people 13 00:00:57,405 --> 00:01:03,205 Speaker 1: find death triggering. Um so today it's heart failure, racism, 14 00:01:03,445 --> 00:01:09,845 Speaker 1: death flying in the air, and torture you know us. Yes, yes, 15 00:01:10,045 --> 00:01:12,005 Speaker 1: if you listen to this in the mornings, like on 16 00:01:12,045 --> 00:01:16,045 Speaker 1: your commute, what is wrong with you? Okay, I'm kidding, 17 00:01:16,085 --> 00:01:18,285 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. And on that note, 18 00:01:18,805 --> 00:01:35,285 Speaker 1: can you all get her music? So, Taylor, a little 19 00:01:35,325 --> 00:01:40,205 Speaker 1: clown told me you have I'm kidding, I'm scared of clubs. Um, 20 00:01:40,245 --> 00:01:43,005 Speaker 1: but someone in my heart you told me that you 21 00:01:43,085 --> 00:01:45,805 Speaker 1: have a story to tell. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about 22 00:01:45,845 --> 00:01:49,005 Speaker 1: this in our meeting earlier this week. No, we don't 23 00:01:49,005 --> 00:01:52,885 Speaker 1: do meetings. This is all input of yes and off 24 00:01:52,885 --> 00:01:55,925 Speaker 1: the cuff. This is a super off the cuff. I 25 00:01:55,965 --> 00:02:01,645 Speaker 1: have not planned this at all. Yeah, we're spontaneous, cool girls. Okay. 26 00:02:01,725 --> 00:02:06,845 Speaker 1: So Maurice Agis he was an art teacher and a 27 00:02:06,845 --> 00:02:10,245 Speaker 1: British sculptor, which is really hard to say, back to back. 28 00:02:10,405 --> 00:02:15,045 Speaker 1: British sculpture anyway, British sculpture. No, it's not okay, No, 29 00:02:15,125 --> 00:02:23,725 Speaker 1: I thank you, Gabby, gabbaye, gabbye. It's hot. Wow, it's 30 00:02:23,765 --> 00:02:29,325 Speaker 1: Tyler's still right, Okay, shut up. So sculptor, you think 31 00:02:29,405 --> 00:02:33,325 Speaker 1: like you know, stone or like ice sculpture, That's what 32 00:02:33,405 --> 00:02:36,685 Speaker 1: I think of. You know, this is a different kind 33 00:02:36,685 --> 00:02:41,485 Speaker 1: of sculpture. He created what he called these dream spaces, 34 00:02:42,045 --> 00:02:44,805 Speaker 1: and they were meant to be kind of like a 35 00:02:45,005 --> 00:02:48,925 Speaker 1: hallucination that you experience with like your whole body. So 36 00:02:49,045 --> 00:02:52,085 Speaker 1: lots of bright colors, weird music. It's just kind of 37 00:02:52,085 --> 00:02:57,925 Speaker 1: like an immersive art installation that sounds like a I mean, 38 00:02:57,965 --> 00:03:00,925 Speaker 1: I can just imagine that pitch meeting of like that project. 39 00:03:01,365 --> 00:03:06,205 Speaker 1: So it's like an immersive experience somewhere dinner, dear, and 40 00:03:06,245 --> 00:03:08,525 Speaker 1: then they just give him money. I mean adult swim 41 00:03:08,525 --> 00:03:12,285 Speaker 1: would say yes in a heartbeat, so yeah, yeah, exactly, 42 00:03:12,445 --> 00:03:14,205 Speaker 1: and I mean it kind of. He started doing this 43 00:03:14,285 --> 00:03:17,485 Speaker 1: in the sixties with this other fellow. I can't remember 44 00:03:17,525 --> 00:03:21,045 Speaker 1: his name, but um Bruce. Yeah. I think it was 45 00:03:21,085 --> 00:03:23,925 Speaker 1: like maybe Peter or something like that. But anyway, he 46 00:03:24,685 --> 00:03:27,845 Speaker 1: started with a pe um penis. Peter's the only one 47 00:03:27,845 --> 00:03:29,885 Speaker 1: I could think of, Gabby. Why would a man be 48 00:03:29,925 --> 00:03:32,965 Speaker 1: called penis? Okay, here's my theory. If I was ever 49 00:03:33,045 --> 00:03:35,125 Speaker 1: named Richard, I wouldn't go buy dick. I would go 50 00:03:35,165 --> 00:03:40,405 Speaker 1: buy penis because that's, oh my gosh, that's such a 51 00:03:40,485 --> 00:03:44,405 Speaker 1: pussy move. Go buy penis. Okay. I feel like penis 52 00:03:44,445 --> 00:03:46,765 Speaker 1: isn't even that use anymore though, Now you use dick 53 00:03:46,885 --> 00:03:49,725 Speaker 1: or cock more. So wouldn't it actually be better to 54 00:03:49,725 --> 00:03:54,205 Speaker 1: be called penis or ding dong? How? How how have 55 00:03:54,325 --> 00:03:58,645 Speaker 1: we gotten here literally talking about art and you're like penis, Yes, 56 00:03:58,885 --> 00:04:01,845 Speaker 1: that's that's what we're going to talk about, Taylor. If 57 00:04:01,845 --> 00:04:03,285 Speaker 1: you don't have all the facts, I'm going to fill 58 00:04:03,325 --> 00:04:06,445 Speaker 1: them in with some nonsense. You're to fill them in 59 00:04:06,645 --> 00:04:11,085 Speaker 1: a wink. All right, all right, all right, let's refocus. 60 00:04:12,245 --> 00:04:16,885 Speaker 1: So anyway, in the sixties, so he was you know, hallucination, psychedelics, 61 00:04:16,965 --> 00:04:20,325 Speaker 1: all that was a thing. So he created these. They're 62 00:04:20,365 --> 00:04:23,005 Speaker 1: kind of like an inflatable bouncy castle meets like a 63 00:04:23,245 --> 00:04:26,285 Speaker 1: fun house. There's like a lot of bright colors. Like 64 00:04:26,525 --> 00:04:29,125 Speaker 1: you remember those things as like parachute things when you 65 00:04:29,205 --> 00:04:32,365 Speaker 1: were a kid in gym class? Oh yeah, what was 66 00:04:32,405 --> 00:04:35,965 Speaker 1: like the point of those? I still don't know. Teamwork? Okay, 67 00:04:36,365 --> 00:04:38,485 Speaker 1: got it. I also imagine if you farted in one 68 00:04:38,525 --> 00:04:42,885 Speaker 1: of those, well everyone was underneath literally, Gabby, No, I 69 00:04:43,045 --> 00:04:45,325 Speaker 1: know it's good. But see, when I was a kid, 70 00:04:45,365 --> 00:04:47,725 Speaker 1: I was kind of a big I was a husky girl, 71 00:04:48,365 --> 00:04:51,205 Speaker 1: and like I was prone to farting, and so I 72 00:04:51,365 --> 00:04:54,485 Speaker 1: hope I never did, but I couldn't be too sure, y'all. 73 00:04:54,645 --> 00:04:59,205 Speaker 1: Young Gabby is so cute. Young Gabby is so sad. 74 00:04:59,965 --> 00:05:03,445 Speaker 1: Oh you know, the other day I looked in the 75 00:05:03,525 --> 00:05:06,365 Speaker 1: mirror and I thought of my younger self, my self child, 76 00:05:06,445 --> 00:05:11,405 Speaker 1: my inner child, and I said, of crying, rolling it 77 00:05:11,485 --> 00:05:15,965 Speaker 1: back in. So we're talking about like happy sculptures and 78 00:05:16,125 --> 00:05:21,365 Speaker 1: art installations that are like kind of psychedelic and hallucinogenic anyway, 79 00:05:21,445 --> 00:05:23,085 Speaker 1: So a lot of people have described them kind of 80 00:05:23,165 --> 00:05:28,925 Speaker 1: like honeycombs, and like if you have the trypophobia, I 81 00:05:29,005 --> 00:05:30,645 Speaker 1: feel like it would be a little bit triggering because 82 00:05:30,645 --> 00:05:32,845 Speaker 1: like it's kind of like it does look like a 83 00:05:32,925 --> 00:05:37,085 Speaker 1: honeycomb and like anyway, and and other people have described 84 00:05:37,125 --> 00:05:40,085 Speaker 1: it like a womb. All of these descriptions are really 85 00:05:40,365 --> 00:05:43,045 Speaker 1: not that cute and doesn't sound appealing to me, but 86 00:05:43,085 --> 00:05:45,765 Speaker 1: they're actually they look fun. Anyway, We'll show pictures on 87 00:05:45,805 --> 00:05:48,845 Speaker 1: our Instagram, don't you worry. And so the people like 88 00:05:48,965 --> 00:05:51,965 Speaker 1: when you go in, like they give you these parachute 89 00:05:52,245 --> 00:05:55,685 Speaker 1: like smock things. They're like really colorful, and you like 90 00:05:55,765 --> 00:05:57,245 Speaker 1: put on this smock and then you go in and 91 00:05:57,285 --> 00:06:00,165 Speaker 1: you just kind of like explore this bouncy castle slash 92 00:06:00,845 --> 00:06:05,445 Speaker 1: sculpture slash immersive experience or whatever. These structures are actually 93 00:06:05,565 --> 00:06:09,205 Speaker 1: pretty big. I saw very very conflicting sizes, so I'm 94 00:06:09,245 --> 00:06:11,205 Speaker 1: not even going to try and pretend to say how 95 00:06:11,285 --> 00:06:13,365 Speaker 1: big they are, but they could at least they could 96 00:06:13,365 --> 00:06:16,125 Speaker 1: hold at least thirty people comfortably. It also had like 97 00:06:16,165 --> 00:06:19,205 Speaker 1: a wheelchair ramp solid enough for that so that kind 98 00:06:19,205 --> 00:06:21,245 Speaker 1: of gives you a picture. They were pretty big. Where 99 00:06:21,285 --> 00:06:26,245 Speaker 1: were these set usually parks, you know, anywhere there wasn't 100 00:06:26,445 --> 00:06:29,205 Speaker 1: enough land, but like like in the west coast, Like 101 00:06:29,325 --> 00:06:34,125 Speaker 1: where was he were in England? Yes, my brain is 102 00:06:34,165 --> 00:06:36,045 Speaker 1: working today, right, we're in England. Of course we are 103 00:06:36,125 --> 00:06:38,885 Speaker 1: the West coast of England. I don't know why I 104 00:06:38,965 --> 00:06:41,245 Speaker 1: thought this was like a Coachella thing. You know, well 105 00:06:41,285 --> 00:06:44,605 Speaker 1: they did installations like all over Europe and I do 106 00:06:44,845 --> 00:06:46,885 Speaker 1: think that one went to La at one point, so 107 00:06:47,605 --> 00:06:50,125 Speaker 1: so there you go, to be fair. Yeah, it sounds 108 00:06:50,165 --> 00:06:54,685 Speaker 1: like burning Man. Yeah exactly. It reminds me a little 109 00:06:54,725 --> 00:06:56,845 Speaker 1: bit of like an installation that would be in Maowel 110 00:06:57,005 --> 00:06:58,845 Speaker 1: or something, which if you don't know what that is, 111 00:06:58,885 --> 00:07:01,525 Speaker 1: a look at up because it is awesome. We're just 112 00:07:01,605 --> 00:07:04,485 Speaker 1: showing how like Ard we are. Like we're just naming 113 00:07:04,565 --> 00:07:08,085 Speaker 1: off things that has yea with maybe the least arty 114 00:07:08,125 --> 00:07:13,005 Speaker 1: because I said Coachella. Anyway, my favorite artists retreat is Coachella. 115 00:07:13,925 --> 00:07:18,765 Speaker 1: Oh god, okay, anyway, So two thousand and six, at 116 00:07:18,805 --> 00:07:21,685 Speaker 1: this point, Maurice has done has been doing these for years. 117 00:07:21,885 --> 00:07:24,885 Speaker 1: People love them, grew to be quite the exciting attraction. 118 00:07:25,725 --> 00:07:29,045 Speaker 1: But as you know, this is not a podcast about 119 00:07:29,165 --> 00:07:34,045 Speaker 1: success and happy stories. So on July twenty second in 120 00:07:34,125 --> 00:07:37,165 Speaker 1: two thousand and six, it was a routine art installation 121 00:07:37,365 --> 00:07:41,925 Speaker 1: in chester Le Street Riverside Park in Durham, England, and 122 00:07:42,085 --> 00:07:43,525 Speaker 1: this was you know, it was supposed to be there 123 00:07:43,565 --> 00:07:45,365 Speaker 1: for a while. So what they would do at night 124 00:07:45,525 --> 00:07:48,365 Speaker 1: is they would deflate it. They had security guards to 125 00:07:48,565 --> 00:07:51,445 Speaker 1: like watch it or whatever, and then it was supposed 126 00:07:51,445 --> 00:07:52,765 Speaker 1: to be there for like the rest of the month. 127 00:07:53,325 --> 00:07:56,765 Speaker 1: So forty some odd people are queuing up to enjoy 128 00:07:57,005 --> 00:08:01,925 Speaker 1: the dream space five when they all hear a loud snap. 129 00:08:02,685 --> 00:08:06,285 Speaker 1: Oh good, yep, that's not a good sign. So the 130 00:08:06,485 --> 00:08:10,205 Speaker 1: straps that are tying the structure down break loose. With 131 00:08:10,565 --> 00:08:13,285 Speaker 1: thirty people inside, they're going to go on a real 132 00:08:13,365 --> 00:08:16,365 Speaker 1: adventure now, you know. So the forty people in line 133 00:08:16,445 --> 00:08:19,525 Speaker 1: are like, oh, that's not good. So they rushed to help. 134 00:08:19,965 --> 00:08:22,965 Speaker 1: So nice, so nice of them, But a gust of 135 00:08:23,045 --> 00:08:25,485 Speaker 1: wind comes and they were no match for the gust 136 00:08:25,565 --> 00:08:28,885 Speaker 1: of wind and this giant structure. And so if the 137 00:08:29,045 --> 00:08:31,565 Speaker 1: structure like flips over on its side and like is 138 00:08:31,645 --> 00:08:34,965 Speaker 1: dragging some of these forty people, mind you, thirty people 139 00:08:34,965 --> 00:08:37,165 Speaker 1: are inside. It flips on its side, so people just 140 00:08:37,245 --> 00:08:42,725 Speaker 1: start ping ponging everywhere inside. Oh no, So after that, 141 00:08:42,965 --> 00:08:47,725 Speaker 1: like there's another gust of wind and it lifts up 142 00:08:47,925 --> 00:08:52,445 Speaker 1: the entire structure thirty feet in the air. Thirty feet 143 00:08:52,645 --> 00:08:57,805 Speaker 1: thirty people scay, a f thirty feet is like very long. 144 00:08:58,165 --> 00:09:05,165 Speaker 1: Let's have very high. Yeah, what about these gusts of winds? 145 00:09:05,685 --> 00:09:09,085 Speaker 1: That's that's more than a gust. That sounds like what's 146 00:09:09,125 --> 00:09:12,085 Speaker 1: the next thing above a gust? I don't know. Well, 147 00:09:12,165 --> 00:09:15,325 Speaker 1: it's funny because she said that it wasn't like a 148 00:09:15,485 --> 00:09:18,765 Speaker 1: windy day. They said that, you know, they're saying that 149 00:09:18,885 --> 00:09:22,285 Speaker 1: like it was just a weird yeah, like there, you know, 150 00:09:22,405 --> 00:09:25,365 Speaker 1: it was like an inflatable structure. So like it's like 151 00:09:26,605 --> 00:09:29,525 Speaker 1: it got up under those and so like the it 152 00:09:29,605 --> 00:09:32,525 Speaker 1: already had air going into it and just like it 153 00:09:32,685 --> 00:09:35,885 Speaker 1: had the assistance of the bouncy of the air pumps 154 00:09:36,005 --> 00:09:38,605 Speaker 1: or whatever. You know. I think that there might be 155 00:09:38,805 --> 00:09:43,085 Speaker 1: like like maybe trampolines and bouncy castles. Anger God, because 156 00:09:43,285 --> 00:09:46,085 Speaker 1: I was reading what trampolines for this story and the 157 00:09:46,205 --> 00:09:48,645 Speaker 1: same thing happened with um a person was on a 158 00:09:48,685 --> 00:09:51,725 Speaker 1: trampoline and a gust of wind randomly happened and it 159 00:09:51,845 --> 00:09:55,485 Speaker 1: killed them. Wow, did you just try and do your 160 00:09:55,525 --> 00:09:58,045 Speaker 1: tangent in the middle of my story. I'm so sorry. 161 00:09:58,085 --> 00:09:59,325 Speaker 1: I know it's not even a part of my tangient 162 00:09:59,325 --> 00:10:01,325 Speaker 1: because it was too sad. Continue to okay, I still 163 00:10:01,365 --> 00:10:05,845 Speaker 1: mention that. So eventually it's in the air, it hits 164 00:10:05,845 --> 00:10:11,645 Speaker 1: a CCTV poll which broke its flying wherever trajectory it 165 00:10:11,725 --> 00:10:15,885 Speaker 1: was going, and comes crashing down onto concrete. This whole 166 00:10:15,965 --> 00:10:19,605 Speaker 1: incident was really about a minute, but people described the 167 00:10:19,725 --> 00:10:23,365 Speaker 1: scene and this is horrific, like laughter and fun of 168 00:10:23,485 --> 00:10:26,005 Speaker 1: like being in this, you know, having a good time 169 00:10:26,125 --> 00:10:29,525 Speaker 1: to just screams of horror. But a sixty eight year 170 00:10:29,525 --> 00:10:32,445 Speaker 1: old woman and a thirty three year old fell dropped 171 00:10:32,485 --> 00:10:37,005 Speaker 1: to their deaths. Thirteen others were very seriously injured. Fire 172 00:10:37,205 --> 00:10:39,805 Speaker 1: police teams rushed to the scene trying to get everyone 173 00:10:39,845 --> 00:10:41,885 Speaker 1: out of the installation because they're like in these like 174 00:10:42,885 --> 00:10:46,325 Speaker 1: like wormhole type things. There was one child that was 175 00:10:46,485 --> 00:10:51,125 Speaker 1: airlifted out. They survived, thank goodness, to an innestotis that 176 00:10:51,245 --> 00:10:54,325 Speaker 1: was at the park and was able to like stabilize 177 00:10:54,765 --> 00:10:58,765 Speaker 1: stabilize them until they got them to the hospital. But 178 00:10:59,085 --> 00:11:02,325 Speaker 1: obviously after that they had to they secured the area 179 00:11:02,405 --> 00:11:05,725 Speaker 1: and they have to do like an investigation because they're like, 180 00:11:05,765 --> 00:11:07,645 Speaker 1: why did this happen? This is really weird. This guy's 181 00:11:07,645 --> 00:11:11,365 Speaker 1: been doing this for years. So they kind of, you know, 182 00:11:11,445 --> 00:11:14,285 Speaker 1: they went back. They realized that, you know, all of 183 00:11:14,325 --> 00:11:18,885 Speaker 1: the safety measures were taken the night before, deflated properly, 184 00:11:19,445 --> 00:11:23,285 Speaker 1: it was safely guarded throughout the night until the next day. However, 185 00:11:23,645 --> 00:11:27,165 Speaker 1: they did say that there was perhaps some vandalism and 186 00:11:27,565 --> 00:11:29,885 Speaker 1: because it had been the structure had been slashed like 187 00:11:29,965 --> 00:11:32,445 Speaker 1: two weeks prior, but like they did all of the 188 00:11:32,485 --> 00:11:34,645 Speaker 1: safety checks and everything like that, and so it was 189 00:11:34,685 --> 00:11:36,885 Speaker 1: like cleared for you. So they were like, I mean, 190 00:11:37,445 --> 00:11:43,565 Speaker 1: there was no like necessarily any negligence there. Well, Maurice 191 00:11:43,645 --> 00:11:49,285 Speaker 1: was arrested for suspicion of manslaughter. At first, wait, Maurice 192 00:11:49,405 --> 00:11:52,685 Speaker 1: the sculpture, Yes, the guy who created this installation. Why 193 00:11:52,765 --> 00:11:57,205 Speaker 1: would he do that to his own creation? Exactly? He 194 00:11:57,325 --> 00:11:59,965 Speaker 1: was later released. They were like no, So then a 195 00:12:00,165 --> 00:12:04,605 Speaker 1: trial happens, and that is where he's charged with breaching 196 00:12:04,765 --> 00:12:09,525 Speaker 1: of the Health and Safety at Work Act and was 197 00:12:09,645 --> 00:12:13,965 Speaker 1: fined ten thousand pounds. He was like very clearly distraught 198 00:12:14,045 --> 00:12:16,965 Speaker 1: and upset. He was. It's obviously like a freak accident, 199 00:12:17,845 --> 00:12:19,485 Speaker 1: but he said that he was never going to make 200 00:12:19,525 --> 00:12:22,085 Speaker 1: one of these structures again. So I kind of feel 201 00:12:22,125 --> 00:12:24,285 Speaker 1: bad for him. That was like his life's work and 202 00:12:24,485 --> 00:12:28,565 Speaker 1: then this horrible, just freak accident, like he'd done it 203 00:12:28,685 --> 00:12:34,965 Speaker 1: a zillion times before anyway. So three years after the incident, 204 00:12:35,405 --> 00:12:38,685 Speaker 1: it's like, you know how long investigations and trials and 205 00:12:38,845 --> 00:12:41,925 Speaker 1: all that stuff takes. So like six months after the 206 00:12:42,085 --> 00:12:45,845 Speaker 1: trial or something, in two thousand and nine, Maurice passes 207 00:12:45,845 --> 00:12:48,925 Speaker 1: away at the age of seventy seven. I didn't find 208 00:12:49,045 --> 00:12:51,925 Speaker 1: like how he died, but they put his ashes in 209 00:12:52,245 --> 00:12:57,725 Speaker 1: like four colorful urns and then so you know, just 210 00:12:57,845 --> 00:13:00,565 Speaker 1: kind of like to honor him. There's no official verdict 211 00:13:00,605 --> 00:13:05,365 Speaker 1: on the manslaughter charges, but obviously seems like it does 212 00:13:05,565 --> 00:13:11,005 Speaker 1: seem like manslaughter to me. But it was a very tragic, horrific, awful, awful, 213 00:13:11,005 --> 00:13:14,365 Speaker 1: awful event that was very traumatizing for a lot of people, 214 00:13:15,565 --> 00:13:18,645 Speaker 1: and they never found out like what the reason was. 215 00:13:18,685 --> 00:13:20,565 Speaker 1: It was just some freak accident. It was just like 216 00:13:20,765 --> 00:13:22,845 Speaker 1: some freak accident. They were I mean, I guess they 217 00:13:22,885 --> 00:13:25,845 Speaker 1: were just saying, you know, like they could have taken 218 00:13:25,925 --> 00:13:28,165 Speaker 1: extra percaustions, but like, I mean, it was cleared to 219 00:13:28,605 --> 00:13:32,765 Speaker 1: be used, but obviously, like somebody kind of has to pay, 220 00:13:32,885 --> 00:13:34,885 Speaker 1: which is a little bit ridiculous, but you know, there 221 00:13:34,925 --> 00:13:37,485 Speaker 1: has to be some sort of like I feel like 222 00:13:37,525 --> 00:13:39,125 Speaker 1: in a lot of instances, there has to be some 223 00:13:39,245 --> 00:13:42,165 Speaker 1: sort of resolution because otherwise, you know, there's all these 224 00:13:42,285 --> 00:13:44,325 Speaker 1: victims that are like what do I, like, what do 225 00:13:44,445 --> 00:13:46,805 Speaker 1: I have to blame? Or like what do I who 226 00:13:46,845 --> 00:13:48,765 Speaker 1: can I be mad at or something? I don't know. 227 00:13:48,805 --> 00:13:52,365 Speaker 1: That's so sad on all accounts. That's just so sad. 228 00:13:53,205 --> 00:13:56,645 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine being in a bouncy castle type thing, 229 00:13:57,365 --> 00:13:59,885 Speaker 1: end it flying away. I don't ever want to be 230 00:13:59,925 --> 00:14:03,845 Speaker 1: in the bouncy castle industry. And it's clown adjacent, so 231 00:14:03,965 --> 00:14:06,285 Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen, so you have 232 00:14:06,365 --> 00:14:10,885 Speaker 1: to watch out. Well exactly. Yeah, that's what makes it cursed. Well, Taylor, 233 00:14:11,165 --> 00:14:14,765 Speaker 1: thank you so much for this, you know, this sad story. 234 00:14:15,045 --> 00:14:18,725 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Honestly, I would I would have gone into 235 00:14:18,885 --> 00:14:21,445 Speaker 1: one of those bouncy castles because actually that's really interesting. 236 00:14:21,525 --> 00:14:23,205 Speaker 1: So I'm sad he's not doing well he passed away, 237 00:14:23,285 --> 00:14:26,685 Speaker 1: but when he's not doing them anymore because people died 238 00:14:27,525 --> 00:14:29,445 Speaker 1: and he was like, all right, that's enough of that. 239 00:14:29,605 --> 00:14:31,405 Speaker 1: I mean, he had been doing it a while, like 240 00:14:31,485 --> 00:14:33,885 Speaker 1: he kind of started. I can't I couldn't tell if 241 00:14:33,925 --> 00:14:38,045 Speaker 1: he like started this style of works in the sixties 242 00:14:38,565 --> 00:14:40,445 Speaker 1: or if he started these bouncy castles. They kind of 243 00:14:40,485 --> 00:14:43,965 Speaker 1: became more popular in like the eighties, eighties, nineties, and 244 00:14:44,005 --> 00:14:49,245 Speaker 1: obviously the two thousands. So um, yeah, the amount of 245 00:14:49,365 --> 00:14:52,045 Speaker 1: drugs people probably did inside of those bouncy castles is just, 246 00:14:52,805 --> 00:14:55,245 Speaker 1: you know, fascinating to me. I mean, yeah, he wanted 247 00:14:55,285 --> 00:15:00,445 Speaker 1: it to be like a psychedelic experience. So when we 248 00:15:00,565 --> 00:15:03,925 Speaker 1: come back, you know, I'll do my little tangent And 249 00:15:04,245 --> 00:15:06,165 Speaker 1: it really has nothing to do with Taylor's story, but 250 00:15:07,285 --> 00:15:14,285 Speaker 1: it starts with tea, and that's all that matters. BRB. Hello, 251 00:15:14,405 --> 00:15:18,085 Speaker 1: welcome back to cadaver Gals. Now call me a traditionalist. 252 00:15:18,365 --> 00:15:22,925 Speaker 1: Starts with tea. Hey, traditionalist. You're a traditionalist. Okay, yeah, 253 00:15:24,245 --> 00:15:30,285 Speaker 1: traditional you're giving us instructions? Yeah, okay, anyway, Um, call 254 00:15:30,365 --> 00:15:33,245 Speaker 1: me a traditionalist, but I personally think that our fragile 255 00:15:33,365 --> 00:15:36,525 Speaker 1: human bodies should not be submitted two hours upon hours 256 00:15:36,565 --> 00:15:40,445 Speaker 1: of bouncing. That is not really what Taylor's story was about. 257 00:15:40,525 --> 00:15:43,205 Speaker 1: But who're gonna go on this journey, and surely people 258 00:15:43,245 --> 00:15:46,685 Speaker 1: were bounced around in there. Surely, surely people were. And 259 00:15:46,885 --> 00:15:50,245 Speaker 1: I think excessive bouncing is a thing that can actually 260 00:15:50,285 --> 00:15:53,845 Speaker 1: be really dangerous. Okay, and I have proof, Okay, the same, 261 00:15:54,685 --> 00:15:57,325 Speaker 1: very passionate about this, Nika. Have there been times where 262 00:15:57,365 --> 00:16:01,005 Speaker 1: you've been bounced around a little bit too much, you know, 263 00:16:01,245 --> 00:16:04,645 Speaker 1: around a little too too much, too fast. It's very funny, Taylor. 264 00:16:04,765 --> 00:16:07,085 Speaker 1: It's funny because as we call moving around sex in 265 00:16:07,205 --> 00:16:12,485 Speaker 1: this podcast. And yes, okay, this is a personal vendetta. Okay, 266 00:16:12,565 --> 00:16:16,125 Speaker 1: this is my joker origin story. I have proof. For example, 267 00:16:16,445 --> 00:16:21,165 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, the American Academy of Pediatrics actually publicly 268 00:16:21,245 --> 00:16:24,405 Speaker 1: stated that they discouraged with a capital D, the use 269 00:16:24,485 --> 00:16:27,365 Speaker 1: of trampolines, calling them dangerous with a capital D and 270 00:16:27,525 --> 00:16:33,965 Speaker 1: a high risk environment. Okay, okay, uh huh. And trampoline 271 00:16:34,045 --> 00:16:37,485 Speaker 1: stunts are a leading cause of cervical spine injuries, according 272 00:16:37,525 --> 00:16:41,525 Speaker 1: to the American Academy of Orthopedic Surgeons. I know and 273 00:16:41,805 --> 00:16:44,725 Speaker 1: I personally have a memory of being on a trampoline, 274 00:16:45,325 --> 00:16:47,925 Speaker 1: trampoline and around bouncing, having a good time. I was 275 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:52,405 Speaker 1: in Australia and then I hit my head so hard 276 00:16:52,565 --> 00:16:55,965 Speaker 1: on the edge of it, and I remember just like 277 00:16:56,645 --> 00:17:00,885 Speaker 1: feeling like this numbness over my head and like its horrible. 278 00:17:00,965 --> 00:17:03,405 Speaker 1: It just felt really bad, and then I just got 279 00:17:03,485 --> 00:17:06,765 Speaker 1: out a concussion. I don't know. We've already figured out 280 00:17:06,805 --> 00:17:08,965 Speaker 1: on this podcast that I have had two concussions and 281 00:17:09,005 --> 00:17:12,165 Speaker 1: have never gotten treated for them. Anyway, this sounds like 282 00:17:12,205 --> 00:17:17,005 Speaker 1: a third. Yeah, it doesn't sound like a third anyway. 283 00:17:17,125 --> 00:17:20,285 Speaker 1: So that's why I have certain feelings about trampolines and 284 00:17:20,485 --> 00:17:23,645 Speaker 1: jumping around. Okay, I when I was a kid, we 285 00:17:23,765 --> 00:17:26,405 Speaker 1: had a trampoline, and I mean, it had a net 286 00:17:26,485 --> 00:17:30,125 Speaker 1: around it, but I was like, this is how I'm 287 00:17:30,165 --> 00:17:32,885 Speaker 1: gonna like break something. Like I just knew that it 288 00:17:32,965 --> 00:17:35,445 Speaker 1: was like inevitable. I didn't, but like I just felt 289 00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:37,045 Speaker 1: like it was inevitable that it was gonna hold on. 290 00:17:37,285 --> 00:17:39,885 Speaker 1: How are you scared trampolines but not horses. Horse injuries 291 00:17:39,925 --> 00:17:42,725 Speaker 1: are like a very real thing. Because I'm a really 292 00:17:42,845 --> 00:17:46,845 Speaker 1: talented horseback rider. I'm kidding. I think we should ride 293 00:17:46,925 --> 00:17:50,085 Speaker 1: on the beach, you know, like a raw flooring commercial. Anyway, 294 00:17:50,285 --> 00:17:54,005 Speaker 1: And one more factuid about the dangers of trampolining before 295 00:17:54,045 --> 00:17:58,925 Speaker 1: I get into the history of trampolining. Okay, yeah, thank you. 296 00:17:59,365 --> 00:18:03,685 Speaker 1: Is that according to the Consumer Product Safety Commission, which, 297 00:18:03,725 --> 00:18:05,365 Speaker 1: by the way, those are the people that also banned 298 00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:07,525 Speaker 1: and directs, so I don't necessarily trust them fully, But 299 00:18:07,845 --> 00:18:10,525 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand hospital visits to the r 300 00:18:10,605 --> 00:18:13,605 Speaker 1: in the US were the direct results of trampoline accidents. 301 00:18:13,885 --> 00:18:16,485 Speaker 1: Trampolines have a vendetta on humans. They are coming to 302 00:18:16,565 --> 00:18:20,725 Speaker 1: get us. They have already gotten us. Okay, they already 303 00:18:20,725 --> 00:18:23,045 Speaker 1: got us, Yeah they did. And you know who is 304 00:18:23,085 --> 00:18:26,925 Speaker 1: responsible for all of this? God, um, let me say it, 305 00:18:27,765 --> 00:18:34,925 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. No, I say, sir, tramps a lot. No, 306 00:18:35,485 --> 00:18:39,965 Speaker 1: this man called George Nisson, who actually dried pretty recently 307 00:18:40,085 --> 00:18:42,205 Speaker 1: at ninety six in two thou and ten. So he 308 00:18:42,325 --> 00:18:45,165 Speaker 1: lived a long life, which means we can talk bad 309 00:18:45,165 --> 00:18:48,405 Speaker 1: about him. So I'm kidding. So he and his co 310 00:18:48,565 --> 00:18:53,045 Speaker 1: conspirator Larry Griswold invented the trampoline in nineteen thirty six, 311 00:18:53,165 --> 00:18:57,245 Speaker 1: a very recent invention, mind you. So this the way 312 00:18:57,325 --> 00:19:01,845 Speaker 1: you're talking about this reminds me of your adversion to uh, 313 00:19:02,485 --> 00:19:08,005 Speaker 1: what are they not golden doodles? Oh, labordoodles, the spawns 314 00:19:08,205 --> 00:19:11,525 Speaker 1: from hell? Yeah? No, you look into their faces. You 315 00:19:11,645 --> 00:19:13,125 Speaker 1: know that is not a dog inside of there. You 316 00:19:13,165 --> 00:19:15,485 Speaker 1: know what I mean, They're a little same passion. You 317 00:19:15,605 --> 00:19:18,725 Speaker 1: have the same passion for this, because I'll never forget 318 00:19:18,765 --> 00:19:20,965 Speaker 1: when I hit my head really hard in Australia. Did 319 00:19:21,045 --> 00:19:24,965 Speaker 1: I keep trampolining? Yes? Would I trampoline today? I would 320 00:19:24,965 --> 00:19:28,565 Speaker 1: be tempted. I would be tempting. Lad Also injure you 321 00:19:29,525 --> 00:19:35,325 Speaker 1: no terrible labradoodle trampoline incident. Literally every labordoodle I've ever 322 00:19:35,405 --> 00:19:37,085 Speaker 1: met has just been really nice to me, and I'm like, 323 00:19:37,205 --> 00:19:40,085 Speaker 1: I hear you like that? How cute the idea of 324 00:19:40,165 --> 00:19:43,365 Speaker 1: a labordoodle bouncing around on a trampoline with his little 325 00:19:43,445 --> 00:19:46,045 Speaker 1: hair like fluffing about. Oh so cute. Okay, thanks for 326 00:19:46,125 --> 00:19:50,725 Speaker 1: the nightmares. So yes, they invented the trampoline in nineteen 327 00:19:50,765 --> 00:19:53,245 Speaker 1: thirty six. We are doing a quick history on this 328 00:19:53,485 --> 00:19:55,925 Speaker 1: death device with Nika because I didn't know what other 329 00:19:56,005 --> 00:19:58,485 Speaker 1: tension to do. But it's actually quite interesting, so hear 330 00:19:58,565 --> 00:20:02,245 Speaker 1: me out. Nissen was a gymnast and a diver, and 331 00:20:02,405 --> 00:20:05,245 Speaker 1: Griswold was also a gymnast and also Nissen's coach. And 332 00:20:05,885 --> 00:20:08,285 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty nis And was watching circus people do 333 00:20:08,365 --> 00:20:12,205 Speaker 1: circus things and was like, hmm, that's really cool. Something 334 00:20:12,325 --> 00:20:14,405 Speaker 1: popped into his nagen. He was sixteen at the time. 335 00:20:14,565 --> 00:20:17,885 Speaker 1: And then in nineteen thirty four, Nisson observed the contraptions 336 00:20:17,925 --> 00:20:20,605 Speaker 1: that trapeze artist would make with this like sheet of 337 00:20:20,725 --> 00:20:23,005 Speaker 1: canvas and then they would use it to like bounce 338 00:20:23,085 --> 00:20:26,125 Speaker 1: off of during their performances, and he was like, hmm, 339 00:20:26,525 --> 00:20:31,165 Speaker 1: there's something here. So Nisson and Griswold built the first 340 00:20:31,245 --> 00:20:35,445 Speaker 1: trampoline prototype and then in nineteen thirty six started making 341 00:20:35,605 --> 00:20:39,405 Speaker 1: and selling them commercially, and of course the idea took 342 00:20:39,445 --> 00:20:42,405 Speaker 1: off because okay, who doesn't want to be in the air, 343 00:20:42,605 --> 00:20:47,725 Speaker 1: flying around giggling with childlike joy? Right? Okay, apparently everyone 344 00:20:48,045 --> 00:20:51,165 Speaker 1: so don't know what they're thinking about, but whatever, So 345 00:20:51,325 --> 00:20:55,765 Speaker 1: they basically stole it from the circus. Yes, they stole 346 00:20:55,885 --> 00:20:59,965 Speaker 1: the idea. Wow, Yes, and everyone wanted a trampoline for 347 00:21:00,045 --> 00:21:02,765 Speaker 1: their backyard, okay. And Nisson was a hustler, Okay, he 348 00:21:03,325 --> 00:21:06,565 Speaker 1: loved trampoline ing and gymnastics, and he would tour around 349 00:21:06,605 --> 00:21:10,285 Speaker 1: the US both performing and also promoting his new contraption. 350 00:21:10,725 --> 00:21:13,245 Speaker 1: And then he served in the Navy, where he met 351 00:21:13,285 --> 00:21:15,805 Speaker 1: air pilots and he convinced the Air Force to use 352 00:21:15,885 --> 00:21:19,165 Speaker 1: trampolines as a way of reorienting themselves while in air. 353 00:21:19,525 --> 00:21:23,285 Speaker 1: So these military men, like very seriously would be jumping 354 00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:26,885 Speaker 1: on trampolines as actual training because it was said that 355 00:21:27,285 --> 00:21:30,325 Speaker 1: it helped them to re orient themselves well in the 356 00:21:30,405 --> 00:21:35,365 Speaker 1: air and also to forget about being scared of heights. Okay, okay, 357 00:21:35,565 --> 00:21:40,165 Speaker 1: I know. And also NASA used them and still uses trampolines, 358 00:21:40,405 --> 00:21:43,165 Speaker 1: which I think is fascinating and really funny because apparently 359 00:21:43,285 --> 00:21:46,085 Speaker 1: the weightless feeling of jumping on trampoline is similar to 360 00:21:46,685 --> 00:21:50,325 Speaker 1: space travel. Oh we've done space travel, you guys. How exciting? 361 00:21:50,845 --> 00:21:54,365 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, I guess basically. And so yeah, Nissen, 362 00:21:54,605 --> 00:21:57,605 Speaker 1: like you know, went through every branch of the US 363 00:21:57,725 --> 00:22:00,485 Speaker 1: commercial system, you know, yeah, NASA, you got the military, 364 00:22:00,525 --> 00:22:05,005 Speaker 1: you have families and their children, and also the Olympics. 365 00:22:05,085 --> 00:22:07,205 Speaker 1: It became him a thing anyway, So he continued promoting 366 00:22:07,285 --> 00:22:09,965 Speaker 1: trampolines after the war, right, and he would create marketing 367 00:22:10,045 --> 00:22:12,085 Speaker 1: stints like jumping on a trampoline around the pyramids in 368 00:22:12,165 --> 00:22:14,765 Speaker 1: Egypt or taking a picture jumping with a kangaroo. And 369 00:22:14,885 --> 00:22:16,725 Speaker 1: he has said that jumping with the kangaroo was really 370 00:22:16,765 --> 00:22:19,005 Speaker 1: hard because the kangaro would jump higher than him and 371 00:22:19,045 --> 00:22:20,885 Speaker 1: he would try to like hit him, and so he 372 00:22:21,045 --> 00:22:23,005 Speaker 1: just had to get close enough for the picture. He 373 00:22:23,085 --> 00:22:25,085 Speaker 1: honestly seems like a pretty cool guy. Like to be fair, 374 00:22:25,605 --> 00:22:29,085 Speaker 1: he had to stop manufacturing trampolines commercially in the eighties 375 00:22:29,405 --> 00:22:32,245 Speaker 1: because he kept getting sued from the constant injuries and 376 00:22:32,365 --> 00:22:37,325 Speaker 1: accidents that happened from trampoline ing, which is my point exactly, Okay, 377 00:22:38,005 --> 00:22:40,325 Speaker 1: but he always continued with a sport even after he stopped, 378 00:22:40,445 --> 00:22:43,645 Speaker 1: you know, manufacturing them commercially, and he actually got to 379 00:22:43,685 --> 00:22:46,565 Speaker 1: see it become an official Olympic sport in two thousand. 380 00:22:46,845 --> 00:22:50,205 Speaker 1: So honestly, good for him. Like, I don't have any 381 00:22:50,325 --> 00:22:53,085 Speaker 1: any any bad blood toward him, you know. And it's 382 00:22:53,125 --> 00:22:55,245 Speaker 1: everywhere now, you know. I mean I don't I don't 383 00:22:55,285 --> 00:22:59,085 Speaker 1: really think about trampolines a lot, but they're there, you 384 00:22:59,205 --> 00:23:00,925 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like they're in the backyards and 385 00:23:00,965 --> 00:23:04,605 Speaker 1: the Olympic and the military. Even in fitness classes. Okay, 386 00:23:04,725 --> 00:23:07,445 Speaker 1: Kate Beck can say, who has wonderful arms and honestly 387 00:23:07,525 --> 00:23:10,405 Speaker 1: a pretty toned ass body is a big proponent of 388 00:23:10,565 --> 00:23:14,365 Speaker 1: the classes called rebounding, which is basically just a trampoline workout. 389 00:23:14,405 --> 00:23:16,965 Speaker 1: Have you heard of this workout? Yes? There, have you 390 00:23:17,045 --> 00:23:20,285 Speaker 1: done it? No? It kind of very much scares me. 391 00:23:20,485 --> 00:23:24,085 Speaker 1: Apparently this journalist from Elite Daily, they wrote a story 392 00:23:24,085 --> 00:23:27,085 Speaker 1: about it entitled it I Tried. I tried a trampoline 393 00:23:27,165 --> 00:23:30,365 Speaker 1: gym class and basically almost died in twenty and sixteen 394 00:23:30,365 --> 00:23:32,205 Speaker 1: because it was it was big in two thousand and sixteen, 395 00:23:32,285 --> 00:23:34,325 Speaker 1: and then with the lockdown that happened because of COVID, 396 00:23:34,405 --> 00:23:36,645 Speaker 1: it also became big again because you could just buy 397 00:23:36,725 --> 00:23:39,525 Speaker 1: your mini trampoline and do it, you know, at home 398 00:23:39,605 --> 00:23:42,125 Speaker 1: with videos and stuff like that. So you know, it 399 00:23:42,245 --> 00:23:44,205 Speaker 1: sounds interesting, It sounds She mentioned that it was kind 400 00:23:44,245 --> 00:23:47,045 Speaker 1: of cultish because in order to stay on the trampoline 401 00:23:47,085 --> 00:23:51,205 Speaker 1: and not die, you basically have to laser focus on 402 00:23:51,365 --> 00:23:54,165 Speaker 1: yourself and look at yourself like dead in the eyes 403 00:23:54,205 --> 00:23:57,005 Speaker 1: in the mirror and just focus on not following and 404 00:23:57,205 --> 00:23:59,605 Speaker 1: like work for forty five minutes and it apparently hurts 405 00:23:59,645 --> 00:24:01,765 Speaker 1: really bad. Like it's actually a really good workout, but 406 00:24:01,885 --> 00:24:05,725 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound safe, and that's it was. Trampoline are 407 00:24:05,805 --> 00:24:09,685 Speaker 1: like kind of small. I am afraid of like missing 408 00:24:09,885 --> 00:24:14,005 Speaker 1: and like rolling my ankle fall, so exactly. Yeah, and 409 00:24:14,285 --> 00:24:16,565 Speaker 1: also I mean what I try it? Yes, I would, 410 00:24:16,565 --> 00:24:20,285 Speaker 1: of course, but still doesn't seem safe. And before I 411 00:24:20,485 --> 00:24:22,845 Speaker 1: end my tangent to give credit where credit is due, 412 00:24:23,365 --> 00:24:26,725 Speaker 1: lots of iterations of the commercial trampling were created before Nissan, 413 00:24:27,045 --> 00:24:30,245 Speaker 1: including like Inuit people who toss blanket dancers in the 414 00:24:30,325 --> 00:24:33,125 Speaker 1: air off of walrus skin because it's elastic and bouncy, 415 00:24:33,445 --> 00:24:35,965 Speaker 1: and they do that during a spring festival that they 416 00:24:36,045 --> 00:24:38,765 Speaker 1: have to celebrate the end of whaling season. And then 417 00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:41,245 Speaker 1: also there is evidence that it might have been used 418 00:24:41,365 --> 00:24:44,925 Speaker 1: during medieval times as a mob punishment device called blanketing, 419 00:24:45,285 --> 00:24:48,805 Speaker 1: which is actually a form of hazing today. So real 420 00:24:48,965 --> 00:24:51,725 Speaker 1: fun google wormholes that I went down on, you know, 421 00:24:52,285 --> 00:24:58,085 Speaker 1: down on, down through and did not out. Okay, oh no, 422 00:24:58,765 --> 00:25:01,725 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what's going on. I'm 423 00:25:01,725 --> 00:25:04,285 Speaker 1: a little bit sick, so you can imagine my brain 424 00:25:04,445 --> 00:25:07,685 Speaker 1: mush right now. But that's the history of trampoline's You're 425 00:25:07,765 --> 00:25:11,565 Speaker 1: welcome everyone. You now know more things about you know, 426 00:25:11,765 --> 00:25:15,885 Speaker 1: white men inventing things, more things than you did before. Yes, 427 00:25:16,005 --> 00:25:19,805 Speaker 1: and that's the important thing. The things said four times, Gabby, 428 00:25:20,405 --> 00:25:26,685 Speaker 1: I know you have something to relieve me of my misery. Um. Yeah, yeah, 429 00:25:26,725 --> 00:25:30,085 Speaker 1: by definitely, it's it's gonna be relieved. Well, we're going 430 00:25:30,125 --> 00:25:32,965 Speaker 1: to continue thinking about things that we enjoy and then 431 00:25:33,165 --> 00:25:41,525 Speaker 1: making them worse, so spline, bouncy castles, etc. Etca. Okay, 432 00:25:42,525 --> 00:25:45,605 Speaker 1: So we're also in England at this point, you know, 433 00:25:46,125 --> 00:25:51,445 Speaker 1: and it's March twenty fourth, nineteen seventy five. Nope, yes, 434 00:25:51,965 --> 00:25:55,245 Speaker 1: that's what it is. And we're in King's Lynn, England, 435 00:25:55,765 --> 00:25:59,005 Speaker 1: and there's a fifty year old dude named Alex Mitchell 436 00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:04,645 Speaker 1: and he's watching the TV okay, and he's specifically have 437 00:26:04,845 --> 00:26:09,205 Speaker 1: y'all done this before, you said, yeah, this is a 438 00:26:09,325 --> 00:26:12,165 Speaker 1: relatable story. Have you also been a fifth year old, 439 00:26:12,445 --> 00:26:16,485 Speaker 1: you know, white man who you know is probably mostly Scottish? Yeah? 440 00:26:16,645 --> 00:26:19,925 Speaker 1: Literally think god No. And so this dude, Alex, he's 441 00:26:19,965 --> 00:26:23,605 Speaker 1: watching The Goodies, which is a show that I didn't 442 00:26:23,645 --> 00:26:26,885 Speaker 1: know about, but it was a big cultural institution basically, 443 00:26:26,965 --> 00:26:29,125 Speaker 1: not really cultural institution that makes it sound like it 444 00:26:29,245 --> 00:26:31,725 Speaker 1: was a good show, but basically it was on for 445 00:26:31,845 --> 00:26:34,925 Speaker 1: like twelve years on the BBC. Um and it featured 446 00:26:35,205 --> 00:26:38,325 Speaker 1: three dudes who were kind of contemporaries to Monty Python. 447 00:26:38,445 --> 00:26:42,485 Speaker 1: So it was another like comedy show lots of slapstick humor, 448 00:26:43,405 --> 00:26:47,365 Speaker 1: very very silly British humor. It's so weird. It's very 449 00:26:47,445 --> 00:26:50,845 Speaker 1: different from like American humor. Yeah, British humor is like 450 00:26:51,205 --> 00:26:54,525 Speaker 1: I don't know, they go and that, it's like they 451 00:26:54,645 --> 00:26:56,565 Speaker 1: hit themselves with like a mouse trapping and they're like, 452 00:26:57,725 --> 00:26:59,125 Speaker 1: you know, and then you're like ha ha ha ha, 453 00:26:59,645 --> 00:27:02,205 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, no one does that in America. 454 00:27:02,605 --> 00:27:06,525 Speaker 1: No one's ever done that, you know. Anytime I see 455 00:27:06,605 --> 00:27:11,245 Speaker 1: British humor, I've always go hippooty dippoty ah. That's good, Taylor, 456 00:27:11,485 --> 00:27:14,285 Speaker 1: that's my favorite. I rewatched an episode of the Simpsons 457 00:27:14,405 --> 00:27:17,165 Speaker 1: last week after not watching it for literally, like I 458 00:27:17,325 --> 00:27:20,245 Speaker 1: think decades. At this point, you haven't been you've hardly 459 00:27:20,285 --> 00:27:22,645 Speaker 1: been alive for a decade. Taylor. You can actually go 460 00:27:23,925 --> 00:27:27,725 Speaker 1: put your face into the pillow and not speak anyway. 461 00:27:28,325 --> 00:27:32,805 Speaker 1: It's on a trampoline, Taylor, with the biggest insults anyway. 462 00:27:32,845 --> 00:27:34,965 Speaker 1: All that to say didn't really hold up all too 463 00:27:35,005 --> 00:27:40,565 Speaker 1: well for me personally. Yeah, um, same with this television program. 464 00:27:40,725 --> 00:27:42,765 Speaker 1: And but I also don't want to poo poo it 465 00:27:42,965 --> 00:27:46,125 Speaker 1: because I also understand it's, you know, an important part 466 00:27:46,165 --> 00:27:49,165 Speaker 1: of comedy. You know whatever. But still it's very it's 467 00:27:49,165 --> 00:27:52,045 Speaker 1: a very very silly show. But Alex, he's enjoying the 468 00:27:52,165 --> 00:27:54,685 Speaker 1: heck out of the episode that he's watching. He's laughing, 469 00:27:54,845 --> 00:27:57,565 Speaker 1: having a grand old time, you know, almost for the 470 00:27:57,805 --> 00:28:01,685 Speaker 1: entire episode. Some people say he was like laughing just 471 00:28:01,805 --> 00:28:04,485 Speaker 1: the whole time, the whole twenty five minutes. But then 472 00:28:04,725 --> 00:28:10,405 Speaker 1: suddenly during the television TV show, he fainted and then 473 00:28:10,445 --> 00:28:12,845 Speaker 1: he started breathing funny according to his daughter and his 474 00:28:12,925 --> 00:28:14,565 Speaker 1: wife who were with him at the time, and then 475 00:28:14,685 --> 00:28:20,725 Speaker 1: he died. What yeah, my goodness, British humor. So he 476 00:28:20,885 --> 00:28:28,445 Speaker 1: goes from laughing a bunch to then dying upon the ground. Okay, 477 00:28:29,565 --> 00:28:33,165 Speaker 1: his death makes headlines across the world, and it's definitely 478 00:28:33,245 --> 00:28:36,405 Speaker 1: framed as the man who laughed himself to death. The 479 00:28:36,525 --> 00:28:39,765 Speaker 1: show was so gosh dang funny that he had heart failure. 480 00:28:39,885 --> 00:28:45,325 Speaker 1: That's basically what everyone thinks happened. Is that confirmed? Well, 481 00:28:45,525 --> 00:28:48,885 Speaker 1: we might get there a little bit later. Darren, Darren, Darren. 482 00:28:49,205 --> 00:28:51,725 Speaker 1: But okay, here's the thing. I'm a big risk taker. 483 00:28:52,125 --> 00:28:54,645 Speaker 1: So I looked at the episode that he was watching 484 00:28:54,965 --> 00:28:58,845 Speaker 1: and I watched it. Oh no, are you okay? Oh 485 00:28:59,085 --> 00:29:04,525 Speaker 1: my god, I am still here to this day. Okay, listener, 486 00:29:04,685 --> 00:29:08,685 Speaker 1: I'm alive as of whatever day. This is goodness. You 487 00:29:08,725 --> 00:29:12,045 Speaker 1: should have told and me like done, like when you're 488 00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:17,005 Speaker 1: watching yeah, but don't do it. They're watching the team. Well, 489 00:29:17,085 --> 00:29:19,965 Speaker 1: I decided to take a risk. Um I you know, 490 00:29:20,085 --> 00:29:22,165 Speaker 1: I looked around. I thought it. I thought I would 491 00:29:22,205 --> 00:29:24,765 Speaker 1: be safe because I thought, you know, humor subjective and 492 00:29:24,845 --> 00:29:27,485 Speaker 1: we might have a different sense of humor, and indeed 493 00:29:27,605 --> 00:29:31,245 Speaker 1: we do. I am different from a man in the seventies. 494 00:29:31,565 --> 00:29:33,805 Speaker 1: But I watched the episode of the Show's very silly. 495 00:29:33,845 --> 00:29:35,645 Speaker 1: So they have like the three main dudes who started 496 00:29:35,765 --> 00:29:38,285 Speaker 1: who you made the show, and they're also the stars 497 00:29:38,325 --> 00:29:41,165 Speaker 1: of the show, and they basically have like three different 498 00:29:41,205 --> 00:29:44,685 Speaker 1: personality types. One is like this, um, he's you know, 499 00:29:44,845 --> 00:29:46,805 Speaker 1: a big fan of the ruling class and doesn't have 500 00:29:46,885 --> 00:29:51,405 Speaker 1: a chin basically, which is kind of funny with British people. 501 00:29:51,445 --> 00:29:53,725 Speaker 1: But then there's also a guy who's like a middle 502 00:29:53,765 --> 00:29:55,645 Speaker 1: class scientist and this other guy who's kind of like 503 00:29:55,725 --> 00:29:59,765 Speaker 1: this more like hippieish anarchist type person. But they basically 504 00:29:59,925 --> 00:30:03,005 Speaker 1: it starts off in a very fun way of like 505 00:30:03,125 --> 00:30:05,805 Speaker 1: two of them are doing kung fu and the doing 506 00:30:05,885 --> 00:30:12,245 Speaker 1: some really fun Chinese impressions, very fun yi. So yeah, 507 00:30:12,405 --> 00:30:14,245 Speaker 1: and then this other guy comes in and he's like, 508 00:30:14,285 --> 00:30:16,765 Speaker 1: you guys are shit at kungku. I know this other 509 00:30:16,885 --> 00:30:20,805 Speaker 1: type of fighting called ecky thump um, And then it's 510 00:30:20,805 --> 00:30:22,965 Speaker 1: a very silly type of fighting that he learns in 511 00:30:23,085 --> 00:30:26,565 Speaker 1: northern England where this special trick move is you take 512 00:30:26,965 --> 00:30:30,245 Speaker 1: a piece of black pudding, which is like nasty black sausage, 513 00:30:30,245 --> 00:30:32,885 Speaker 1: and you just hit people over the head with it. Okay, 514 00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:35,685 Speaker 1: So that's the whole fighting thing, and then it gets 515 00:30:35,765 --> 00:30:38,205 Speaker 1: better because then he fights all these other varieties. He 516 00:30:38,325 --> 00:30:41,245 Speaker 1: fights them while they're doing kung fu. There's also they 517 00:30:41,365 --> 00:30:44,365 Speaker 1: make up this weird French dial where they just hit 518 00:30:44,405 --> 00:30:47,005 Speaker 1: people with baggetts. But then the black pudding comes in. 519 00:30:47,125 --> 00:30:49,125 Speaker 1: And the best part, you know, that we just loved 520 00:30:49,285 --> 00:30:52,765 Speaker 1: was there was black face and so they dressed up 521 00:30:52,845 --> 00:30:56,325 Speaker 1: as a boxer in black face and they also hit 522 00:30:56,405 --> 00:30:59,005 Speaker 1: them with the pudding and anyway, so just some fun 523 00:31:03,165 --> 00:31:07,325 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, you know. But this is the part 524 00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:09,645 Speaker 1: that they say that Alex was laughing. The most at 525 00:31:09,885 --> 00:31:12,565 Speaker 1: which I do appreciate is that they do have a bagpiper, 526 00:31:12,685 --> 00:31:16,005 Speaker 1: so Scotsman who gets hit in the head with a boomerang, 527 00:31:16,045 --> 00:31:18,485 Speaker 1: and apparently that's the funniest part in Alex andself. I 528 00:31:18,605 --> 00:31:23,565 Speaker 1: hate bagpipers here and boomerangs, like, but Alex himself was 529 00:31:23,645 --> 00:31:26,965 Speaker 1: like Scottish and like a proud scott and he thought 530 00:31:27,045 --> 00:31:29,245 Speaker 1: that was the funniest part. And I'm like, it's great 531 00:31:29,285 --> 00:31:31,925 Speaker 1: that he's like laughing at himself. Basically, you know, I 532 00:31:32,005 --> 00:31:35,165 Speaker 1: think we could all take, you know, a note from 533 00:31:35,205 --> 00:31:37,365 Speaker 1: Alex there, because like we should be able to laugh 534 00:31:37,445 --> 00:31:42,085 Speaker 1: at ourselves. Okay, being hit with a boomerang. I do 535 00:31:42,365 --> 00:31:46,365 Speaker 1: think that stuff is like funnier when you are like 536 00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:48,485 Speaker 1: things that make me laugh is like when I see 537 00:31:48,525 --> 00:31:50,645 Speaker 1: myself in it and like that's making fun of me. 538 00:31:51,205 --> 00:31:53,445 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I do that. This is ridiculous. 539 00:31:53,525 --> 00:31:55,445 Speaker 1: Oh no, Like and then I'm laughing at myself at 540 00:31:55,485 --> 00:31:58,405 Speaker 1: how do ya do you like all of our horsecroll jokes, Taylor? 541 00:31:58,885 --> 00:32:06,645 Speaker 1: Nor continue with your story anyway, So learning lessons laugh 542 00:32:06,685 --> 00:32:10,165 Speaker 1: at yourself. It's healthy, okay, And also this was kind 543 00:32:10,205 --> 00:32:13,245 Speaker 1: of fun. So his wife after he died, actually sent 544 00:32:13,365 --> 00:32:15,565 Speaker 1: a letter to the Goodies and was like, hey, thank 545 00:32:15,605 --> 00:32:17,645 Speaker 1: you for making the last twenty five minutes of my 546 00:32:17,765 --> 00:32:22,285 Speaker 1: husband's life so enjoyable. I wouldn't be like, you murdered 547 00:32:22,325 --> 00:32:26,965 Speaker 1: my husband. Yeah. Yeah. Thinking about that in contemporary times, 548 00:32:27,085 --> 00:32:29,045 Speaker 1: I feel like that would be more likely the response, 549 00:32:29,165 --> 00:32:31,325 Speaker 1: especially in America. As we know, America is a place 550 00:32:31,365 --> 00:32:33,765 Speaker 1: where we sue everyone, So I'm sure they would try 551 00:32:33,805 --> 00:32:37,405 Speaker 1: to sue a sketch group for making someone laugh too hard. 552 00:32:37,765 --> 00:32:40,445 Speaker 1: You know, you're so problematic, you made people laugh too hard? 553 00:32:40,525 --> 00:32:43,245 Speaker 1: You shouldn't do that. Um. I get told that all 554 00:32:43,325 --> 00:32:50,725 Speaker 1: the time. Okay, Um, here's the thing? Is laughing dangerous? 555 00:32:50,845 --> 00:32:53,125 Speaker 1: Like is this a thing that's like happened? You know? 556 00:32:53,245 --> 00:32:57,085 Speaker 1: Throughout time have people like actually are They're like because 557 00:32:57,085 --> 00:32:59,645 Speaker 1: you know they'll always be like laughter is the best medicine, 558 00:32:59,725 --> 00:33:01,805 Speaker 1: but like, wait a second, you know what can it 559 00:33:01,965 --> 00:33:04,525 Speaker 1: do that is bad? You know? And so these fucking 560 00:33:04,725 --> 00:33:08,725 Speaker 1: little these like fucking Debbie Downers. They did aid study 561 00:33:08,805 --> 00:33:10,885 Speaker 1: where they collected a bunch of studies from the forties 562 00:33:10,965 --> 00:33:13,925 Speaker 1: to like twenty thirteen, and they all these studies were 563 00:33:13,925 --> 00:33:17,045 Speaker 1: about laughter, and they were basically trying to ascertain what 564 00:33:17,165 --> 00:33:21,165 Speaker 1: could be the negative health effects of laughing. Like what 565 00:33:21,325 --> 00:33:23,805 Speaker 1: a fucking what a project? Like, how did they pitch 566 00:33:23,925 --> 00:33:27,725 Speaker 1: that project? You know, fun police, Yeah exactly. But they 567 00:33:27,805 --> 00:33:30,925 Speaker 1: did find fifteen bad things that can happen when you laugh. 568 00:33:31,485 --> 00:33:36,965 Speaker 1: You can faint, irregular heartbeat, cardiac rupture, You could accidentally 569 00:33:37,045 --> 00:33:39,765 Speaker 1: choke on something because if you inhale something while you're laughing, 570 00:33:39,885 --> 00:33:43,645 Speaker 1: you can have asthma, increased risk for lung collapse. You 571 00:33:43,725 --> 00:33:46,645 Speaker 1: can pee yourself. Yeah, that is actually one of the 572 00:33:46,765 --> 00:33:49,045 Speaker 1: negative ones. I say, peeing your pants, which I'm like, 573 00:33:49,285 --> 00:33:52,245 Speaker 1: that's not a health effect, that's just embarrassing, you know, 574 00:33:53,125 --> 00:33:55,045 Speaker 1: like all of these things could happen too if you're 575 00:33:55,125 --> 00:33:58,125 Speaker 1: not laughing. That's true. But one thing they did which 576 00:33:58,165 --> 00:33:59,965 Speaker 1: I thought was interesting was they're like, hey, yeah, these 577 00:34:00,005 --> 00:34:02,045 Speaker 1: are fifteen bad things, but there's actually like tons of 578 00:34:02,565 --> 00:34:06,125 Speaker 1: benefits of laughing, like reducing stress, anxiety, et cetera, you know, 579 00:34:06,245 --> 00:34:09,045 Speaker 1: not being actually yeah, and they said but this was 580 00:34:09,085 --> 00:34:10,725 Speaker 1: like funny because they said it could be great for 581 00:34:10,885 --> 00:34:14,365 Speaker 1: obesity because if you laugh, you know, have a hearty 582 00:34:14,445 --> 00:34:17,205 Speaker 1: laugh for the whole day, then you can like burn 583 00:34:17,325 --> 00:34:19,645 Speaker 1: two thousand calories. But I'm like, who's having a hearty 584 00:34:19,765 --> 00:34:22,325 Speaker 1: laugh the whole fucking day? Like are you just gonna 585 00:34:22,405 --> 00:34:25,005 Speaker 1: laugh for eight hours? Like what the hell? We just 586 00:34:25,085 --> 00:34:26,925 Speaker 1: need to hang out with Gabby Moore, and I'll lose 587 00:34:26,965 --> 00:34:33,245 Speaker 1: weight because then you'll succumb to my trash diet, which 588 00:34:33,365 --> 00:34:36,685 Speaker 1: is just whatever is available, and that's usually like a 589 00:34:36,925 --> 00:34:41,365 Speaker 1: cheesy bread, you know, cheesy. How are you always surrounded 590 00:34:41,405 --> 00:34:44,685 Speaker 1: by cheesy bread. I don't understand it to find the 591 00:34:44,765 --> 00:34:46,485 Speaker 1: right cheesy bread, but I guess it just finds you. 592 00:34:46,805 --> 00:34:49,685 Speaker 1: It finds me, you know. Um, I just like a 593 00:34:49,725 --> 00:34:51,645 Speaker 1: house it for people and then they just have that 594 00:34:51,725 --> 00:34:53,285 Speaker 1: in the freezer, you know, they've had it in there 595 00:34:53,285 --> 00:34:54,605 Speaker 1: for a long time. And I'm like, well, I'll be 596 00:34:54,685 --> 00:34:59,565 Speaker 1: the one who eats this cheesy bread. Okay, that's my responsibility. Yeah, 597 00:34:59,645 --> 00:35:02,965 Speaker 1: I'm a good house sitter. I eat your cheesy bread. Okay, 598 00:35:03,085 --> 00:35:04,845 Speaker 1: but people, I'd tell that to people. If they have 599 00:35:04,925 --> 00:35:07,725 Speaker 1: cheesy bread, I'm going to eat it. Okay. Also, this 600 00:35:07,965 --> 00:35:11,365 Speaker 1: was funny, Okay, one benefit of laughing which sounds fake, 601 00:35:11,925 --> 00:35:15,725 Speaker 1: but it says that there are higher pregnancy rates after 602 00:35:15,845 --> 00:35:20,685 Speaker 1: in vitro fertilization. When a clown joke with would be mothers, 603 00:35:21,165 --> 00:35:25,005 Speaker 1: that seems fake, like basically people getting IVF and they're 604 00:35:25,045 --> 00:35:27,125 Speaker 1: like this clown made them laugh and then it took 605 00:35:27,205 --> 00:35:30,805 Speaker 1: hold better that sounds fake as hell? But how many? Yeah, 606 00:35:31,205 --> 00:35:35,605 Speaker 1: I mean if can also again work or it doesn't work, 607 00:35:35,765 --> 00:35:37,765 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like there are two options. 608 00:35:37,885 --> 00:35:40,445 Speaker 1: So but they said if you have a clown present, 609 00:35:40,565 --> 00:35:43,365 Speaker 1: it might work back. How many times has a clown 610 00:35:43,445 --> 00:35:45,325 Speaker 1: been present? Is this like a thing that people do. 611 00:35:46,045 --> 00:35:48,525 Speaker 1: I had a clown near me and I had some 612 00:35:48,685 --> 00:35:50,605 Speaker 1: kind of sperm around me, I would shoot the sperm 613 00:35:50,645 --> 00:35:56,045 Speaker 1: out of my vagina out of fear. Ever made me laugh. 614 00:35:56,565 --> 00:36:01,005 Speaker 1: Clowns are just not funny. Sorry, clown clowns out there, 615 00:36:01,245 --> 00:36:03,645 Speaker 1: It's true clowns. Clowns have also never made me laugh. 616 00:36:04,125 --> 00:36:08,085 Speaker 1: What is funny about a person? It's like wearing a 617 00:36:08,165 --> 00:36:11,565 Speaker 1: weird outfit and like on purpose, like they're trying to 618 00:36:11,725 --> 00:36:15,125 Speaker 1: too hard, you know, like do less, do less. That's 619 00:36:15,845 --> 00:36:18,445 Speaker 1: that's the problem with clowns. They have too many props, 620 00:36:18,805 --> 00:36:24,805 Speaker 1: you know, clown and face pussy right anyway, choose. It's 621 00:36:24,805 --> 00:36:27,165 Speaker 1: all too much like too many colors. I don't know. 622 00:36:28,525 --> 00:36:32,245 Speaker 1: But okay, so that seems fake, but maybe who knows. Okay, 623 00:36:32,405 --> 00:36:35,045 Speaker 1: just if you are getting iva, maybe bring a clown 624 00:36:35,085 --> 00:36:38,205 Speaker 1: with you, um, just to be safe, okay, yeah, or 625 00:36:38,285 --> 00:36:46,005 Speaker 1: just take your husband for free? Can you explain a 626 00:36:46,085 --> 00:36:49,965 Speaker 1: joke that means it's good um okay, okay, but okay, 627 00:36:50,125 --> 00:36:54,525 Speaker 1: so they did it. But anyway, so Alex who was 628 00:36:54,565 --> 00:36:57,845 Speaker 1: watching the TV show who died after laughing. They didn't 629 00:36:57,885 --> 00:36:59,325 Speaker 1: know for a long time when it happened. They were 630 00:36:59,365 --> 00:37:01,205 Speaker 1: just assumed it was some sort of like heart failure. 631 00:37:01,685 --> 00:37:06,925 Speaker 1: But then in twenty twelve, his grand daughter had like 632 00:37:07,005 --> 00:37:10,405 Speaker 1: a cardiac problem. The same thing that had happened to 633 00:37:10,485 --> 00:37:14,165 Speaker 1: him happened to her where she suddenly fainted and then 634 00:37:14,845 --> 00:37:17,165 Speaker 1: started having all these like heart problems and then she 635 00:37:17,245 --> 00:37:19,885 Speaker 1: had to be induced into a coma afterwards. And she 636 00:37:20,005 --> 00:37:24,925 Speaker 1: was only twenty three when this happened, and yeah, watch out, Nika. 637 00:37:25,205 --> 00:37:27,125 Speaker 1: But it was interesting that this happened because then it 638 00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:30,245 Speaker 1: helped them. She did survive. But then because of like 639 00:37:30,365 --> 00:37:32,765 Speaker 1: her problem, they were able to diagnose what likely happened 640 00:37:32,805 --> 00:37:36,445 Speaker 1: to her grandfather, and they discovered that she had long 641 00:37:36,685 --> 00:37:40,765 Speaker 1: QT syndrome, which is usually a genetic disorder that gets 642 00:37:40,805 --> 00:37:44,365 Speaker 1: passed down and it's a heart rhythm condition that can 643 00:37:44,485 --> 00:37:47,005 Speaker 1: sort of make your heart beat in an irregular or 644 00:37:47,165 --> 00:37:49,445 Speaker 1: like too fast kind of way, and so like if 645 00:37:49,485 --> 00:37:52,245 Speaker 1: you're excited or scared or have heightened emotions laughing or 646 00:37:52,405 --> 00:37:55,765 Speaker 1: even if you're exercising, watch out, Nika, you might fain, 647 00:37:56,325 --> 00:37:59,245 Speaker 1: have a seizure, and then because of the heart problems, 648 00:37:59,285 --> 00:38:03,165 Speaker 1: then you could potentially die. So they assumed because he 649 00:38:03,285 --> 00:38:05,245 Speaker 1: had fainted, and fainting is like the main sign of 650 00:38:05,285 --> 00:38:08,125 Speaker 1: how long QT syndrome, that's probably what happened to him. 651 00:38:08,565 --> 00:38:15,325 Speaker 1: So they solved the mystery. Only how many years later? Math? 652 00:38:15,565 --> 00:38:19,205 Speaker 1: Thirty forty years later? About gap? You do the math? 653 00:38:19,245 --> 00:38:23,325 Speaker 1: I don't want to. I always think it's so interesting 654 00:38:23,525 --> 00:38:26,205 Speaker 1: when like years and years and years and years and 655 00:38:26,325 --> 00:38:30,125 Speaker 1: years later things are solved. Yeah, but you know sometime 656 00:38:30,645 --> 00:38:33,365 Speaker 1: it takes time, y'all. And there are a few others. 657 00:38:33,405 --> 00:38:35,005 Speaker 1: So it does seem if you have a heart condition, 658 00:38:35,125 --> 00:38:38,845 Speaker 1: that's probably you know when you might die from laughing. 659 00:38:39,005 --> 00:38:42,485 Speaker 1: But there's been like a few other silly cases throughout history. 660 00:38:42,685 --> 00:38:44,765 Speaker 1: There is in the fifth century, there is this painter 661 00:38:45,405 --> 00:38:48,765 Speaker 1: who they say he died after laughing so much because 662 00:38:48,845 --> 00:38:52,525 Speaker 1: he had painted Aphrodite in a really funny way, because 663 00:38:52,605 --> 00:38:56,325 Speaker 1: this old woman who had commissioned the painting had insisted 664 00:38:56,645 --> 00:39:00,805 Speaker 1: that she modeled for it. So he apparently laughed himself 665 00:39:00,845 --> 00:39:04,485 Speaker 1: to death about how silly his painting looked that could 666 00:39:04,525 --> 00:39:08,205 Speaker 1: be fake. And then we have a third century philosopher. 667 00:39:08,405 --> 00:39:11,205 Speaker 1: He died of laughing after he saw a donkey eating 668 00:39:11,405 --> 00:39:14,925 Speaker 1: his figs. So I mean, donkeys are pretty funny, so 669 00:39:15,085 --> 00:39:20,045 Speaker 1: that makes sense. They are funny, They're so cute, so cute. 670 00:39:20,605 --> 00:39:24,965 Speaker 1: And then in fourteen ten, a king of Aragon he 671 00:39:25,685 --> 00:39:27,845 Speaker 1: laughed himself to death. But it might have also been 672 00:39:27,925 --> 00:39:31,005 Speaker 1: after his jester told him a joke. But it also 673 00:39:31,085 --> 00:39:33,685 Speaker 1: might have been an indigestion problem, So make sure you're 674 00:39:33,925 --> 00:39:37,245 Speaker 1: laughing on an empty stomach, okay. And then this one 675 00:39:37,405 --> 00:39:41,325 Speaker 1: was really funny because it's very relatable. Is in nineteen twenty, 676 00:39:41,405 --> 00:39:44,045 Speaker 1: this Australian man died after he was laughing because he 677 00:39:44,165 --> 00:39:46,645 Speaker 1: was like reading the paper and he I think he 678 00:39:46,805 --> 00:39:49,725 Speaker 1: was just aghast from the years of nineteen fifteen to 679 00:39:49,845 --> 00:39:54,005 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty how much prices had risen on certain commodities. 680 00:39:54,045 --> 00:39:57,645 Speaker 1: So he was laughing so much at you know, which 681 00:39:57,685 --> 00:39:59,205 Speaker 1: I feel like I laughed too when I look at 682 00:39:59,245 --> 00:40:03,205 Speaker 1: like housing prices, I'm like ha. So he made a 683 00:40:03,325 --> 00:40:06,005 Speaker 1: remark to his wife about how prices so much more 684 00:40:06,085 --> 00:40:10,125 Speaker 1: than he apparently died after he was laughing about capitalism. 685 00:40:10,645 --> 00:40:13,125 Speaker 1: So I mean, I get that I'm laughing right now. 686 00:40:13,245 --> 00:40:16,325 Speaker 1: How I went from a hybrid to like an suv 687 00:40:16,605 --> 00:40:19,285 Speaker 1: and the gas prices have gone up so much. I'm like, wow, 688 00:40:19,365 --> 00:40:21,885 Speaker 1: I'm done, So watch out, Taylor. That might be a 689 00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:24,805 Speaker 1: laughing you know. The laughing out of desperation is also 690 00:40:24,885 --> 00:40:27,085 Speaker 1: a way you can laugh and lead to death. I 691 00:40:27,165 --> 00:40:30,685 Speaker 1: feel like that's how I laugh a lot. Is trying 692 00:40:30,765 --> 00:40:33,885 Speaker 1: to not cry. Yeah, you're just like, oh my god, 693 00:40:35,925 --> 00:40:38,165 Speaker 1: life is so bad. That's what we do on this show. 694 00:40:38,245 --> 00:40:42,725 Speaker 1: So anyway that is watch out, guys, you know, laugh 695 00:40:42,805 --> 00:40:45,365 Speaker 1: and moderation. That's all I can say. Also, make sure 696 00:40:45,445 --> 00:40:47,725 Speaker 1: you don't have a heart condition. I hope we're not 697 00:40:47,885 --> 00:40:53,245 Speaker 1: too funny for everyone too. But I also like this 698 00:40:53,325 --> 00:40:57,005 Speaker 1: episode so far because it's like having fun like Bountycastle, 699 00:40:57,165 --> 00:41:02,725 Speaker 1: trampoline laughing. We can't do any of those things anymore exactly. 700 00:41:02,965 --> 00:41:07,125 Speaker 1: Thank you, Gabby. Wow, oh another thing to be scared of. 701 00:41:07,205 --> 00:41:11,645 Speaker 1: Am I right? I'm a right guy. Okay O my 702 00:41:11,765 --> 00:41:19,285 Speaker 1: heart No? That oh that scratchy sound was my throat. Okay, 703 00:41:19,485 --> 00:41:23,165 Speaker 1: when we come back, you know, another tangent that's kind 704 00:41:23,165 --> 00:41:25,925 Speaker 1: of not about this. But we do what we can. 705 00:41:26,205 --> 00:41:31,005 Speaker 1: We do what we can Okay, stick around, bitch, love you. 706 00:41:39,125 --> 00:41:42,405 Speaker 1: You know that was such a funny story. Um Um, 707 00:41:43,005 --> 00:41:45,525 Speaker 1: what's really fun about this is that I also have 708 00:41:45,805 --> 00:41:48,725 Speaker 1: a things that should be fun but are actually bad 709 00:41:49,005 --> 00:41:53,245 Speaker 1: tangent to go on. So with your blessing, I think 710 00:41:53,245 --> 00:41:56,165 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on it. Okay, yeah, well I feel 711 00:41:56,205 --> 00:41:58,365 Speaker 1: like this is like slightly related. If you're doing what 712 00:41:58,485 --> 00:42:00,685 Speaker 1: I think you're doing, so I think it makes sense. 713 00:42:00,805 --> 00:42:04,445 Speaker 1: I think our tangent is winky winky good. I love 714 00:42:04,525 --> 00:42:08,165 Speaker 1: it good. Okay, Well, you know I love to laugh 715 00:42:08,245 --> 00:42:10,765 Speaker 1: as much as the next person, but laughing by being 716 00:42:10,805 --> 00:42:12,845 Speaker 1: tickled is not really my Actually that is a lie. 717 00:42:12,845 --> 00:42:14,405 Speaker 1: I don't know why the funk I wrote this. I 718 00:42:14,525 --> 00:42:17,925 Speaker 1: love being tickled? What the heck? What? Anyway? I hate it? 719 00:42:18,085 --> 00:42:21,725 Speaker 1: You hate being tickled? It's like such an invasion of 720 00:42:21,845 --> 00:42:24,845 Speaker 1: it in space. Well, it has to be consensual, Like 721 00:42:25,445 --> 00:42:29,365 Speaker 1: I I love the idea of being tickled, but only 722 00:42:29,485 --> 00:42:33,045 Speaker 1: by a very select group of people, and there needs 723 00:42:33,125 --> 00:42:36,485 Speaker 1: to be some kind of safe word because it can 724 00:42:36,565 --> 00:42:39,325 Speaker 1: also get very overwhelming, as I will explain the reason why. 725 00:42:39,405 --> 00:42:42,645 Speaker 1: But you just don't like so mad really, just because 726 00:42:42,805 --> 00:42:45,485 Speaker 1: it like I have this this dumb reaction of laughing 727 00:42:45,565 --> 00:42:47,525 Speaker 1: does not mean that I'm enjoying it. Where do you 728 00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:53,485 Speaker 1: like getting tickle? Taylor? No, I don't don't tickle me ever, 729 00:42:53,565 --> 00:42:57,605 Speaker 1: But where are you tickers? No? No, I won't do it. 730 00:42:57,765 --> 00:43:00,165 Speaker 1: I'm not like, I'm not an assaulter who I'm like 731 00:43:00,245 --> 00:43:03,005 Speaker 1: a British comedian one of Okay, I'll tell you one. 732 00:43:03,765 --> 00:43:06,245 Speaker 1: One of the things that annoys me the most, well, 733 00:43:06,325 --> 00:43:09,445 Speaker 1: my dad used to do this like grab like grab 734 00:43:09,565 --> 00:43:12,245 Speaker 1: your like just above your knee. You know that's a 735 00:43:12,365 --> 00:43:14,405 Speaker 1: very yeah, that's a very sense. It makes me. It 736 00:43:14,525 --> 00:43:16,405 Speaker 1: makes me. I mean, don't ever do because I'll just 737 00:43:16,525 --> 00:43:23,045 Speaker 1: kick you. But m Taylor's hey, I feel like ticklings. 738 00:43:23,725 --> 00:43:26,885 Speaker 1: Ticklings like the final frontier of like consent, you know, 739 00:43:26,965 --> 00:43:30,165 Speaker 1: because I feel like people don't usually ask for consent 740 00:43:30,245 --> 00:43:32,445 Speaker 1: about it, and we like people tickle children. I'm like, 741 00:43:32,725 --> 00:43:35,005 Speaker 1: those children probably don't like it because the whole time 742 00:43:35,045 --> 00:43:37,325 Speaker 1: you're being tickled, all your yelling is stop stop stop, 743 00:43:37,405 --> 00:43:41,965 Speaker 1: But you're like, yeah, stop though, she really likes it. 744 00:43:42,205 --> 00:43:44,805 Speaker 1: And what she'll do, I guess I figured this out. 745 00:43:44,885 --> 00:43:48,005 Speaker 1: She'll like, she'll go on these like little ransmore. She'll 746 00:43:48,005 --> 00:43:51,805 Speaker 1: be like get me, get me, and she'll say get me, Taylor, 747 00:43:52,485 --> 00:43:54,925 Speaker 1: and so then she just wants me to like chase 748 00:43:55,005 --> 00:43:57,565 Speaker 1: her and then tickle her. That's embarrassing. That's literally how 749 00:43:57,605 --> 00:44:02,445 Speaker 1: I am. Gabby. Do you like being tickled? What do 750 00:44:02,525 --> 00:44:10,285 Speaker 1: you think? No? Absolutely not. I like to tickle people, 751 00:44:10,845 --> 00:44:14,885 Speaker 1: but I have never been with I'm sorry. Okay, here's 752 00:44:14,925 --> 00:44:18,445 Speaker 1: the imagining, Gabby. Tickli someone is like imagining a big 753 00:44:18,605 --> 00:44:21,165 Speaker 1: octopus tickling so like I can't see it in my brain. 754 00:44:21,765 --> 00:44:24,365 Speaker 1: A big octopus. That's how you think about me. I 755 00:44:24,405 --> 00:44:26,725 Speaker 1: don't know what that means, but I appreciate it. Thank you. 756 00:44:27,125 --> 00:44:29,805 Speaker 1: Um Like you're enveloping, is what I'm saying. Well, I 757 00:44:29,965 --> 00:44:31,965 Speaker 1: do the thing where it's like, you know, people have spots, 758 00:44:32,005 --> 00:44:34,565 Speaker 1: so I'll just like jab them in this ticklish spot, 759 00:44:34,765 --> 00:44:36,885 Speaker 1: you know, like in the rist I'm just jabbed with 760 00:44:37,005 --> 00:44:42,005 Speaker 1: my eight tentacles. Okay, but anyway, anyway, so Gabby sent 761 00:44:42,085 --> 00:44:44,805 Speaker 1: me this link like literally last night because she knew 762 00:44:44,805 --> 00:44:47,325 Speaker 1: I had not done my research yet. Thank God, about 763 00:44:47,405 --> 00:44:52,405 Speaker 1: about being tickled. And apparently there's this thing called tickle torture, 764 00:44:52,725 --> 00:44:55,085 Speaker 1: which I am not surprised at all, but here it is. 765 00:44:55,645 --> 00:44:59,005 Speaker 1: I feel like tickling is torture, so I understand. I 766 00:44:59,085 --> 00:45:00,805 Speaker 1: also said that to you because it seemed like you 767 00:45:00,805 --> 00:45:05,685 Speaker 1: would enjoy it, enjoy Thank you so much, Gabby. Um. So, 768 00:45:05,845 --> 00:45:08,925 Speaker 1: it apparently began in ancient China during the Hand dynasty, 769 00:45:09,165 --> 00:45:11,245 Speaker 1: and it was used because it didn't leave any marks 770 00:45:11,285 --> 00:45:13,565 Speaker 1: that the victims had to recover from, and so it 771 00:45:13,685 --> 00:45:18,125 Speaker 1: was also especially used on royalty because obviously looks were 772 00:45:18,245 --> 00:45:21,485 Speaker 1: very important back then and being seen as like untouchable 773 00:45:21,765 --> 00:45:24,045 Speaker 1: or like, you know, no blemishes were a big deal. 774 00:45:24,325 --> 00:45:26,485 Speaker 1: So tickle torture was actually kind of the perfect way 775 00:45:26,525 --> 00:45:29,685 Speaker 1: of torturing people. And then it also, yeah, it would 776 00:45:29,685 --> 00:45:31,805 Speaker 1: also was a thing in ancient Rome, and what they 777 00:45:31,845 --> 00:45:33,765 Speaker 1: would do there that was a very specific thing. They 778 00:45:33,765 --> 00:45:36,925 Speaker 1: would dip the criminals feet in like salty water and 779 00:45:37,005 --> 00:45:39,525 Speaker 1: then have a goat lick it off until like they 780 00:45:39,565 --> 00:45:44,245 Speaker 1: couldn't take it anymore, it's not so bad. And so 781 00:45:44,325 --> 00:45:46,565 Speaker 1: then obviously it would start off kind of ticklish at first, 782 00:45:46,605 --> 00:45:48,485 Speaker 1: you know, you're the goat licking your feet, and then 783 00:45:48,525 --> 00:45:51,565 Speaker 1: it would become excruciatingly painful and then they'd cry, but 784 00:45:51,605 --> 00:45:54,005 Speaker 1: they would also continue laughing while they were being restrained. 785 00:45:55,445 --> 00:45:58,525 Speaker 1: Kind of hilarious, it's very funny. And then also it 786 00:45:58,605 --> 00:46:00,685 Speaker 1: was a thing also in ancient Japan, so you know, 787 00:46:01,045 --> 00:46:03,085 Speaker 1: first centuries this has been a thing, and it's just 788 00:46:03,285 --> 00:46:06,365 Speaker 1: fascinating to me. And I was kind of reading about 789 00:46:06,365 --> 00:46:10,605 Speaker 1: it because what I had to, well I had to, 790 00:46:10,765 --> 00:46:13,605 Speaker 1: but also it honestly really interested me, like what causes 791 00:46:13,805 --> 00:46:16,365 Speaker 1: this much stress when you're getting tickled? Why is it 792 00:46:16,485 --> 00:46:20,125 Speaker 1: actually torture? And it seems like when you're tickled, what 793 00:46:20,845 --> 00:46:23,805 Speaker 1: reacts is this part of the brain called the hypothalamus, 794 00:46:24,205 --> 00:46:25,885 Speaker 1: and that's the area in your brain that is in 795 00:46:26,005 --> 00:46:29,125 Speaker 1: charge of emotional reactions, and that is very stimulated when 796 00:46:29,125 --> 00:46:32,925 Speaker 1: you're being tickled, and so in regardless of whether you 797 00:46:33,125 --> 00:46:37,605 Speaker 1: enjoy it or not, the response is an immediate emotional response, 798 00:46:37,845 --> 00:46:40,765 Speaker 1: so you'll still be laughing uncontrollably, like even if you're 799 00:46:40,805 --> 00:46:43,445 Speaker 1: not enjoying it, which is so very the very frustrating 800 00:46:43,445 --> 00:46:45,845 Speaker 1: thing about being tickled and consent and that whole thing. 801 00:46:46,325 --> 00:46:49,445 Speaker 1: And there's evidence that pain receptors are triggered during tickling, 802 00:46:49,845 --> 00:46:53,525 Speaker 1: which can lead to severe overstimulation if it's done against 803 00:46:53,565 --> 00:46:55,645 Speaker 1: your will, obviously, and then if it's done for a 804 00:46:55,685 --> 00:46:59,565 Speaker 1: prolonged period of time. Some people have reported vomiting, loss 805 00:46:59,605 --> 00:47:03,245 Speaker 1: of consciousness, or major difficulty breathing because they're laughing so 806 00:47:03,445 --> 00:47:07,125 Speaker 1: hard from being tickled or asking to stop, and so yes, 807 00:47:07,205 --> 00:47:10,805 Speaker 1: of course, like it has led to death of it, 808 00:47:11,285 --> 00:47:13,085 Speaker 1: of course it has. I mean, you know, there was 809 00:47:13,125 --> 00:47:17,285 Speaker 1: this man, specifically Joseph Cahoot, who was a prisoner of 810 00:47:17,445 --> 00:47:20,685 Speaker 1: the Nazis in World War Two for being homosexual, and 811 00:47:21,045 --> 00:47:24,765 Speaker 1: he witnessed someone being tickled to death in a concentration camp, 812 00:47:24,925 --> 00:47:28,405 Speaker 1: which is obviously disgusting, and it was also used as 813 00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:31,445 Speaker 1: torture more recently by a group of women in Mayotte, 814 00:47:31,485 --> 00:47:34,045 Speaker 1: which is this overseas department of France. They did this 815 00:47:34,125 --> 00:47:36,965 Speaker 1: torture technique in nineteen sixty six against men who were 816 00:47:37,005 --> 00:47:40,005 Speaker 1: opposed to their political views to get them to sway 817 00:47:40,045 --> 00:47:42,325 Speaker 1: in their views basically and do whatever they wanted. And 818 00:47:42,405 --> 00:47:45,165 Speaker 1: there was also I read about this person who I 819 00:47:45,205 --> 00:47:47,325 Speaker 1: think it was like the nineteen hundreds or something. He 820 00:47:47,565 --> 00:47:52,165 Speaker 1: was a doctor at a like psychiatry ward and this 821 00:47:52,445 --> 00:47:57,965 Speaker 1: man was strapped in and basically this doctor was bored 822 00:47:58,365 --> 00:48:02,125 Speaker 1: and took off the socks of the patient and was 823 00:48:02,285 --> 00:48:06,325 Speaker 1: tickling the patient to like the patient basically lost consciousness, 824 00:48:06,605 --> 00:48:08,685 Speaker 1: and then also gave the patient of bloody nose. And 825 00:48:08,765 --> 00:48:11,365 Speaker 1: then the doctor was found doing that and had a 826 00:48:11,445 --> 00:48:13,685 Speaker 1: trial and I think he was guilty. So but it's 827 00:48:13,725 --> 00:48:17,565 Speaker 1: been a thing like people love the power dynamic of tickling, 828 00:48:17,765 --> 00:48:21,245 Speaker 1: which is so bad. Like that's like that would be 829 00:48:21,325 --> 00:48:23,205 Speaker 1: like a liberal way at a torture, Like I want 830 00:48:23,285 --> 00:48:26,485 Speaker 1: you to be, you know, to tickle conservatives and to 831 00:48:26,605 --> 00:48:30,645 Speaker 1: be like I'm gonna conservatives and too being liberal. Yeah, 832 00:48:31,245 --> 00:48:34,645 Speaker 1: what a silly like I want you to be. It's silly, 833 00:48:34,765 --> 00:48:37,165 Speaker 1: it seems silly, but like it can be really bad. 834 00:48:37,245 --> 00:48:39,565 Speaker 1: There was also the study that I read about where 835 00:48:40,165 --> 00:48:45,205 Speaker 1: these researchers interviewed one hundred and fifty adult siblings about 836 00:48:45,685 --> 00:48:48,285 Speaker 1: kind of if they ever felt abused by their siblings, 837 00:48:48,725 --> 00:48:53,165 Speaker 1: and many of them said that being tickled felt like 838 00:48:53,205 --> 00:48:55,845 Speaker 1: a form of abuse because they couldn't say no, which 839 00:48:56,405 --> 00:48:58,645 Speaker 1: is really scary. Like I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, 840 00:48:58,645 --> 00:49:01,005 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, did I tickle my siblings? Like, did 841 00:49:01,125 --> 00:49:04,325 Speaker 1: have I ever enacted that kind of fours against someone? 842 00:49:04,405 --> 00:49:07,125 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I feel like probably because 843 00:49:07,245 --> 00:49:08,605 Speaker 1: we all kind of grow up. I mean, I feel 844 00:49:08,645 --> 00:49:10,205 Speaker 1: like it's not as popular now, but we all grow 845 00:49:10,325 --> 00:49:13,925 Speaker 1: up tickling people slash not learning about consent in the 846 00:49:13,965 --> 00:49:16,845 Speaker 1: way that I think kids are learning about consent now, yeah, 847 00:49:16,925 --> 00:49:20,245 Speaker 1: I mean it Also I feel like it's like such 848 00:49:20,285 --> 00:49:23,925 Speaker 1: a silly thing that it's like, I mean, can you 849 00:49:24,045 --> 00:49:26,325 Speaker 1: madd like the doctor who was like on trial, Like 850 00:49:26,485 --> 00:49:30,125 Speaker 1: how embarrassing and silly that is to be on trial 851 00:49:30,285 --> 00:49:34,165 Speaker 1: for tickling. I know, Like, but like it really causes 852 00:49:34,205 --> 00:49:38,445 Speaker 1: an emotional you know, panic response in your brain. And also, um, 853 00:49:39,125 --> 00:49:42,325 Speaker 1: speaking of you know, being tickled, power dynamics, consent, all 854 00:49:42,365 --> 00:49:45,645 Speaker 1: of that stuff. Tickle torture has also of course become 855 00:49:45,725 --> 00:49:49,485 Speaker 1: a big thing on like the BDSM community and you know, 856 00:49:49,605 --> 00:49:52,645 Speaker 1: in consensual relationships. Tickle torture is also a thing that 857 00:49:52,805 --> 00:49:56,685 Speaker 1: many dominatrixes are very very good at. It's actually pretty common, 858 00:49:56,765 --> 00:49:58,885 Speaker 1: and there's even websites, Oh my gosh, it's so funny, 859 00:49:59,125 --> 00:50:02,885 Speaker 1: like um only tickle dot com or tickle dates dot com. 860 00:50:03,325 --> 00:50:05,845 Speaker 1: There's a really great paper interview that I read with 861 00:50:05,965 --> 00:50:09,165 Speaker 1: this pro tickle torturer who explains that it's like torturing 862 00:50:09,245 --> 00:50:12,165 Speaker 1: someone without harming them actually or getting violent, and it 863 00:50:12,285 --> 00:50:14,445 Speaker 1: feels really good, like as a release, especially in a 864 00:50:14,485 --> 00:50:19,285 Speaker 1: pyrodynamic situation. Apparently, some submissives really like the mind game 865 00:50:19,365 --> 00:50:23,245 Speaker 1: interrogation style of tickling. The Dominatrix said that one time 866 00:50:23,365 --> 00:50:27,285 Speaker 1: she left a man, you know, strapped, and then she 867 00:50:27,405 --> 00:50:29,925 Speaker 1: put itching powder on his feet and then left him 868 00:50:29,925 --> 00:50:31,525 Speaker 1: in a room for like an hour. And they're just 869 00:50:31,685 --> 00:50:34,885 Speaker 1: like torturous, but like he wanted it, and then others 870 00:50:34,925 --> 00:50:37,045 Speaker 1: like get more soft and playful and fun, and it 871 00:50:37,125 --> 00:50:39,765 Speaker 1: just depends on like what they want. And you know, 872 00:50:40,125 --> 00:50:43,405 Speaker 1: before I end the tickle tangent the tt I need 873 00:50:43,445 --> 00:50:45,525 Speaker 1: to tell you guys about this man who made a 874 00:50:45,885 --> 00:50:51,365 Speaker 1: documentary about competitive endurance tickling. And I know, I know, 875 00:50:51,765 --> 00:50:54,645 Speaker 1: So this journalist from New Zealand went on like a 876 00:50:54,845 --> 00:50:58,365 Speaker 1: rabbit hole when he found these videos of like young 877 00:50:58,525 --> 00:51:03,445 Speaker 1: men usually from eighteen to twenty five ish, very homoerotic, 878 00:51:03,565 --> 00:51:05,805 Speaker 1: like on top of each other, tickling each other and 879 00:51:05,965 --> 00:51:08,965 Speaker 1: seeing how long could they endure. And these videos were 880 00:51:09,165 --> 00:51:11,605 Speaker 1: there were many, many videos, and it came from this 881 00:51:11,885 --> 00:51:14,245 Speaker 1: weird website and so he like tried to track out 882 00:51:14,285 --> 00:51:17,845 Speaker 1: the website to ask more questions about competitive tickling, and 883 00:51:18,525 --> 00:51:22,525 Speaker 1: the website owner like responded very aggressively and like leave 884 00:51:22,925 --> 00:51:28,325 Speaker 1: me alone, blah blah whatever. And the journey on what 885 00:51:28,525 --> 00:51:32,045 Speaker 1: these videos are, how do they get made? Who owns 886 00:51:32,085 --> 00:51:34,805 Speaker 1: these videos. Who are the Models? And all of that 887 00:51:34,845 --> 00:51:37,085 Speaker 1: sort of stuff ended up becoming a documentary that premiere 888 00:51:37,125 --> 00:51:40,525 Speaker 1: to the Sundance Film Festival in twenty and sixteen because 889 00:51:41,165 --> 00:51:45,085 Speaker 1: it was not it was not as innocent as it seemed. 890 00:51:45,205 --> 00:51:48,845 Speaker 1: It was actually very much an illegal taking advantage of 891 00:51:48,885 --> 00:51:53,845 Speaker 1: the model's abuse kind of situation within the competitive endurance 892 00:51:53,925 --> 00:51:57,325 Speaker 1: tickling world. And it's just a mess, but also a 893 00:51:57,365 --> 00:51:59,285 Speaker 1: really interesting documentary and I really want to watch it 894 00:51:59,325 --> 00:52:03,365 Speaker 1: this weekend. So that's so weird. Yes, absolutely, there is 895 00:52:03,445 --> 00:52:07,685 Speaker 1: nothing innocent in this world, nothing, not even tickling, not 896 00:52:08,365 --> 00:52:14,165 Speaker 1: daver gals getting the inside scoop on the tickle once again. 897 00:52:14,725 --> 00:52:19,205 Speaker 1: So you know, we've learned so many things about what 898 00:52:19,405 --> 00:52:22,205 Speaker 1: should be fun can actually be super dangerous and it's 899 00:52:22,325 --> 00:52:26,605 Speaker 1: scary fun temper like, no laughing, no bouncy castles, no trampolines, 900 00:52:26,765 --> 00:52:29,845 Speaker 1: no clowns. But where do you knew about clowns? Well, 901 00:52:30,045 --> 00:52:33,085 Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening. You know, don't laugh ever, 902 00:52:33,805 --> 00:52:38,685 Speaker 1: and you know, let's talk at you next time. 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