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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to a big story out of the NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals coming up in a couple minutes. But boy, if

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Speaker 1: you like your your fights with a side of hockey

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Speaker 1: you are gonna enjoy Game three of the Stanley Cup Final.

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Speaker 1: The second multiple freakis fight breakout in the last twenty

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Speaker 1: minutes has just happened between the Panthers and the Oilers.

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Speaker 1: Panthers on the cusp of taking Game three five to one. Look,

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Speaker 1: we told you this last on Friday night. It's such

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Speaker 1: an incredibly emotional win for the Panthers on the road

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Speaker 1: when you can win in double overtime after the Oilers

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Speaker 1: tied it with seventeen seconds left, Like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you come back from this. Mentally, if you're Edmonton,

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Speaker 1: you got to go on the road. I'm expecting this

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Speaker 1: series to be three to one going back to Edmonton,

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Speaker 1: and well that's kind of we're seeing it so far.

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Speaker 1: With the Panthers up five to one, looking a lot

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Speaker 1: like the Knicks. I thought they'd respond better, but I

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Speaker 1: guess not. Nix you, but I tell you it happens

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Speaker 1: when when you get broken and the Oilers look like

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Speaker 1: they've been broken tonight by the Panthers. You knew it

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Speaker 1: wasn't gonna just be hey, we're gonna take this five

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Speaker 1: to one whipping and go quietly, No, no, no, because

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Speaker 1: when when you take the heart of your opponent, when

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Speaker 1: you drop the puck, sometimes a fight breaks out. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: two fights breakout, sometimes three fights bread sometimes four fights

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Speaker 1: break out at the same time when you rip their

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Speaker 1: hearts out, like Lloyd Christmas Fight Night and Dumb and

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Speaker 1: Dumber Frederick just frost check Punnet. Don't get stick about that.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna that is career and Nurse.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna start seeing ten minutes Pastana's getting handed out.

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Speaker 1: Gaudovich and Nurse to the left of your screen, throwing punches.

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Speaker 2: Smitch helmet us come off. He's tackling with Connor brown.

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Speaker 1: Back if it's still going out of it, Nurse. These

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Speaker 1: not Nick Nurse. By the way, it's not not to

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Speaker 1: say Nick Nurse is not fighting. I had a rough

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Speaker 1: for a nurse. Nor if I just beat up, they

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Speaker 1: might be. They were bleeding from their ears. He was

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Speaker 1: waiting for Seamus and Drew McIntyre to show up in this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was a full on fight night.

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Speaker 1: It was brutes making their way and trying to watch

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Speaker 1: across go, I'm watching this fight now.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm watching. No, I'm watching this Fight't pan backs

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Speaker 2: far enough to get them all in screen. That looks

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Speaker 2: like it's the best fight. No, no, the one in

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Speaker 4: With somebody walking up to the bench and clawking McDavid

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Speaker 1: I was kind of waiting for the slap shot where

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Speaker 2: The face, he goes through the whole bench.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but this has hit a situation and Florida just

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Speaker 3: You've watched your share of youth sports to where a

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Speaker 2: No, it's like, can we get out of here in

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Speaker 3: A hard slide tackle that doesn't make any sense coming

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Speaker 3: Like it's just all right, I got a guy near

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Speaker 3: have absolutely you lose that absolute heartbreaker in getting in

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Speaker 3: in game two, which is again in sports, Ye okay,

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Speaker 3: you use a heartbreak, you come back the next day. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it does always work that way, especially in hockey. Right

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Speaker 3: they're putting up the towels with ratsom.

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Speaker 2: You always know, like I always know.

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Speaker 1: You know what knowing a loss really hits home is

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Speaker 1: when you see after a game is over and the

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Speaker 1: they're celebrating and everybody's leaving the ice, and you know,

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Speaker 1: they're doing postgame and everything, and there's pockets of fans

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Speaker 1: just sitting in their seats because they're so stunned. Thousand

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Speaker 1: years I can't get up yet. I mean, that's my favorite.

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Speaker 1: That's what why is why I love hockey?

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Speaker 2: Like that? You say all the handshake line is the best?

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Speaker 1: No, my favorite the fans you just and the and

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Speaker 1: there's no they're not look like they're getting up, like

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Speaker 1: you know, the guys there with his girlfriend neither look

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Speaker 1: that like you said that thousand yards stare. I'm not

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Speaker 1: ready to leave yet because I don't I'm not over

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Speaker 1: what I just saw, how we lost this game.

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Speaker 3: I'm not cready coming up and tapping them on the shoulder,

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Speaker 2: I'm not moving.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in the post game, you know, it's like a

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, we want to just to move things along here.

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Speaker 2: You know. I want to get home to my family too.

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Speaker 2: I got some.

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Speaker 1: Cold macaroni I'm gonna heat up in the microwave and

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna try to watch a little bit of fallon.

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Speaker 2: So uh let me. I want to go. I want

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Speaker 2: to get going. I want to get going. I get it,

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Speaker 2: let me go.

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Speaker 3: You want to be the sweep for whatever giveaway to

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Speaker 3: see how many you can get through your eBay auctions.

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Speaker 3: But uh, come on, we gotta we gotta get.

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Speaker 1: A moving But that really, I mean you hear overused

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Speaker 1: all the handshake at the end of the series, which

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Speaker 1: we handshake inut of this series might be interesting, but

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's my favorite one. I see that,

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Speaker 1: it's like, wow, like you understand you.

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Speaker 2: Took the soul.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like everybody else football, bet, everybody can't leave. I

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Speaker 1: can't leave fast enough. In hockey, it's like I can't

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Speaker 1: believe I need to sit here. I can't get up

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Speaker 1: and leave yet. And that's awesome. That's why I love.

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Speaker 3: That that invested the hockey fan is the best alongside

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Speaker 3: the glass or a couple of rows up that has

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Speaker 3: put everything into this squad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: I watched it for years from the three hundred level

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Speaker 3: while I was trying to avoid getting bitten by rats.

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Speaker 1: You don't get yeah, or one of the fame now

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Speaker 1: the squirrel rats that they have in New York. Apparently

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Speaker 1: those things are fighting. Is this can we confirm this

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Speaker 1: is real?

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Speaker 2: Or is this? You know?

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Speaker 1: Ai c G.

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Speaker 2: I what do we got? Go rat?

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Speaker 1: The squirrel put his rat tail up over his head

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Speaker 1: because it's stay out of the rain.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, while we are waiting again to the game three

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Speaker 1: at the Stanley Cup Final is going to go to Florida.

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Speaker 2: It's six to one with a minute left to go.

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Speaker 1: We are waiting for Game three of the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: which will be on July seventh. And I got a

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Speaker 1: fun about July. Okay, maybe July sixty well to get

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Speaker 1: them to move it. Yeah, you want to see Paul

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Speaker 1: Simon on July. Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 2: See it's a perfect song for this hockey. Sure.

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Speaker 1: But so we're waiting till Wednesday night for game three,

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Speaker 1: and I got I really have a fun thing on

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Speaker 1: waiting between NBA games coming up in a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you think about what's going on so far.

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Speaker 1: The main criticism of the finals. Yes, you could criticize

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Speaker 1: the Pacers and Halliburton not showing up they need to

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Speaker 1: in Game two, but virtually everybody is criticizing ESPN because

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Speaker 1: of the broadcast. No one is a fan of the broadcast.

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Speaker 1: And again I didn't really get to see the broad

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Speaker 1: you know, everything begun until this weekend because Game one

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's a game in February. There's no

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Speaker 1: real decoration of the court. Well they super imposed, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well right now, that's the whole thing, right, that's my point.

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Speaker 2: So it didn't feel like the five.

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Speaker 1: That was a big criticism after game, but didn't feel

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Speaker 1: like the Final, felt like a regular season game. The

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Speaker 1: especially when here's your booth and the rumors, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: Doris Burke might not be doing this anymore.

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Speaker 2: Wait, everybody loved Doris Burke.

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Speaker 1: No, no, So now someone who's doing this could be

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Speaker 1: a lame duck and could be out right, this is

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Speaker 1: this is bad, right. You don't want you don't want

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Speaker 1: your broadcast criticized. So what happens for Game two? But

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Speaker 1: ESPN we're gonna super impose a Larry O'Brien trophy on

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Speaker 1: the court to make it look that way. And that

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Speaker 1: got criticism and it's still getting criticism that the booth

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Speaker 1: is not great. It doesn't feel like the NBA Finals. Now,

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Speaker 1: there is part of it being it's Oklahoma City in Indiana.

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Speaker 1: It's not Lakers Nicks. It's not the Lakers in the heat,

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Speaker 1: it's not the the Celtics and Warriors, right, and so

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Speaker 1: I get that, but I understand the criticism of it.

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Speaker 1: But that's not But I'm gonna take this in a

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Speaker 1: different direction here, like why is this? Why is this

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Speaker 1: out there? Like why is ESPN getting criticized like this?

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Speaker 1: It's happening because ESPN, more than anybody else, listens to

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Speaker 1: all the outside noise when it comes to criticism of

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Speaker 1: them as a network or the on air product. They

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Speaker 1: listen way too much to what is said on social media,

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Speaker 1: what people say on television. It's like there's people's jobs

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Speaker 1: to say, Hey, they're saying this on social media. We

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Speaker 1: gotta get away from this, right, Like social media hated

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Speaker 1: Chris Berman every time we did. They hate what happened.

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Speaker 1: Chris Berman basically does nothing for ESPN anymore. Right, everybody

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Speaker 1: and then it's Mike Breen that everybody loves, right, But

435
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Speaker 1: then is Doris Burke, who I love doors but now

436
00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,639
Speaker 1: she's not gonna might might be a part of it

437
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 1: going forward? Right, how does that leak before the finals?

438
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,879
Speaker 1: And Richard Jefferson, okay, you know they they you know,

439
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: Martin Wison and you were talking with this a few

440
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: minutes ago, like they kind of had something good going

441
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Speaker 1: with JJ Reddick. He was very polarizing. But JJ Reddick

442
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 1: obviously is now my buddy. JJ Reddick is now coaching

443
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:44,679
Speaker 1: the Lakers.

444
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,160
Speaker 2: Top guy.

445
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 1: Like, so they really as they don't have a voice, right,

446
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what the identity of the ESPN

447
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 1: NBA broadcast is. And so yeah, when when you put it,

448
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 1: when you put a broadcast out this as well, we're

449
00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of this. We're a little bit of

450
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 1: screaming before the game and a halftime. We're a little

451
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,679
Speaker 1: bit of of of putting together a broadcast that is

452
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,240
Speaker 1: that is kind of it's nuts and bolts Sea a

453
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: little bit. But then now we're gonna bring in the

454
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Speaker 1: TNT guys next year because they're gonna add their flavor

455
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 1: to it. Like what's their identity? I don't know what

456
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: it is? And and we talk about this for NFL

457
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,520
Speaker 1: for teams in sports all the time, Hey, what's your idental?

458
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 1: Like NFL teams, you gotta have an identity. Right, We're

459
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna play great defense, We're gonna run the football right

460
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 1: we go, We're gonna put points on them, We're gonna

461
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 1: throw that We're gonna do this, you have to have

462
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 1: an identity. Usually you have to have an identities a franchise,

463
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 1: but but generally each season, this is the identity that

464
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Speaker 1: the coaches put forward, and teams with identities generally play better.

465
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Speaker 1: I feel like they just don't have it, Like they're

466
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 1: just kind of we're putting, we're throwing things up there

467
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 1: to see what sticks. And there's no cohesion.

468
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 2: Right.

469
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 1: It feels like you're watching three different shows when you're

470
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 1: watching ESPN and wh when when they broadcast and that,

471
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: and that's never good. Like you, you want to be

472
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Speaker 1: able to have some sort of of of symbiosis between

473
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Speaker 1: segments and and make the making the game big and

474
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: making sure big names are talking about it where you

475
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Speaker 1: want them talking about it.

476
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Speaker 2: And I don't see it.

477
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,239
Speaker 1: And now they're gonna bring in the TNT guys who

478
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,479
Speaker 1: are gonna come in and basically probably take over. Well

479
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 1: they very should coming. We're coming in because and because

480
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, this is gonna be us. They want

481
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 1: to fight like this is a reflection on us when

482
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: we come in here. Now we want to be able

483
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Speaker 1: to do the same show because the last thing look

484
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Speaker 1: and you know, listen, guys, they want good things being

485
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Speaker 1: said about them. The last thing that that that that

486
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Speaker 1: EJ and Kenny and Shaq and Charles want coming in

487
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,959
Speaker 1: is people go, oh, they're not the same They've been ESPN,

488
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Speaker 1: They've done this, They're not the same guy. So they're

489
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Speaker 1: come be saying blank you we're gonna do the show

490
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Speaker 1: we want to. So now if that's gonna be the identity,

491
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Speaker 1: where does the other Where do the other guys fit right?

492
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Speaker 1: Like Steve and A Smith is not suddenly going to

493
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Speaker 1: be on with these guys. They're not gonna be on

494
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Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, and they're not gonna like you go all

495
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 1: a sudden T and the tn T guys are coming

496
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Speaker 1: in combatively against everything. So it's gonna be such a

497
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Speaker 1: mess like and so the NBA ESPN, it's the broadcast

498
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Speaker 1: is just there's absolutely no cohesion on it. I don't

499
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Speaker 1: know what they're about. I don't know their identity. I

500
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: know what I'm watching TNT and I got I know

501
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna get from the guys coming off of

502
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 1: this game. I know what I'm gonna get coming into

503
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: this game. And again, it's not just a it's all

504
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: ESPN across board. I know what I'm getting when I

505
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: watch him do a big college football game, right, I

506
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm getting when I watch a big NFL

507
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: game on Fox.

508
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: I know what I'm getting here.

509
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Speaker 1: And it's just something that they have lost their voice

510
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: and an NBA has lost their way and you're seeing

511
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Speaker 1: it on display. Unfortunately in the finals that have two

512
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: smaller markets, so that's exacerbating it a little bit. Well,

513
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: but that's the thing, right, you talk about a very

514
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: what tumultuous year would be the kind way to describe

515
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: the relationship between the NBA and Adam silver Right doing

516
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Speaker 1: a lot of finger wagging when he does his rounds

517
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: on radio and television about how the game is covered

518
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: in two guys faces like, ah, you're too negative and okay,

519
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: well now you're adding to it because this is gonna

520
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 1: now go out and the blog is fhear of you

521
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: calling guys out publicly.

522
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Speaker 3: It's not behind closed doors. We hear this may have

523
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 3: been a thing. No, you're putting it out and airing

524
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 3: your laundry front and center. You've got the TNT guys

525
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 3: getting ready to come in like they're the damn nWo. Right,

526
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 3: which guys Scott Hall, which guys Diesel, which guys the

527
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 3: Halkster and Eric Bischoff over there ringing his hands.

528
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Speaker 2: I mean, you got all that going on, so you

529
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: got the infighting there.

530
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, like I said, you've got a whole year of

531
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Speaker 3: complaining about the coverage of the game. And then what

532
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: happens when you get a couple of teams like Oklahoma

533
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 3: City in Indiana it becomes a well, they're small markets.

534
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Speaker 2: They don't have stars.

535
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: You've heard all the headlines, right, It's been dotted time

536
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: and time again. So but like we always joke, you

537
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 3: and I love us, hate us. The worst thing you

538
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: could be is indifferent. So folks are watching and they're mad.

539
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: Guess what they're watching. You might get some people drawn

540
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 3: in who are now gonna hate watch to see how

541
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: bad it really is. But everybody else has already decided

542
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: they're tuned out, right, they've already moved on to baseball,

543
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: or there's summer plans. So all of that to say,

544
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: it's a product that as you go into the finals,

545
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: you had a game plan.

546
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: Right, There's millions of dollars that get spent leading.

547
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 3: Up into this, right, ad buys and I mean we're

548
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 3: talking hundreds of millions of dollars being of commerce around

549
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 3: the NBA Finals.

550
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Speaker 2: You didn't go in with any of this.

551
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: Just going, hey, you know what, guys, have a good show, right,

552
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: there's hours about hours of discussions and blueprints and game

553
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 3: plans and behind the scenes.

554
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: Right, you don't just walk on to behind the.

555
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 3: Table there before broadcasting a game. You know, Doris Burke

556
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: and Richard Jefferson their producers and Mike Breen.

557
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: You know what, we got to keep it fresh for air.

558
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 2: We haven't talked about any of this.

559
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: Nobody's given us any advanced stats. I want you guys

560
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: on the Google machine as we're in the product. No,

561
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: you got a team of how many people that are

562
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: putting this thing together. It's not haphazard, so to do

563
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 3: the breakneck responses to it doesn't look big enough. Hey,

564
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 3: if we superimpose the Larry O'Brien trophy, that's gonna do it?

565
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 3: What for game three? Is it gonna spin? Is it

566
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: gonna start glowing? I mean, like, what are we gonna do?

567
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: Are we gonna put the contrails on the shot from

568
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 3: three point range so it looks like you, hey, watch

569
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Speaker 3: the flow of the bad I mean, what else are

570
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: you gonna do. You're gonna superimpose, Hey what are they

571
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: out there? And they're actually up against the green screen

572
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 3: and now they are the there's no anime figures. That's

573
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Speaker 3: what we like, the animated versions. And it's just an

574
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Speaker 3: insane reaction. You have what you put in for this finals,

575
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: whether it works or not, just you got it a

576
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: whole off season to figure it out. But that's what

577
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 3: happens when you don't have a voice, you don't have

578
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: an identity, you wind up being knee jerk to what's

579
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: said on social media. Right, Sports Illustrated writes this big

580
00:25:58,880 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: article about what's wrong.

581
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Speaker 1: I'll we're gonna fix it. But like, let's put the

582
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: Larry O'Brien trophy super imposed it on TV?

583
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: Like wow, come on man.

584
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: A critic decided, you know it's I mean, yeah, great,

585
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: you're programming ESPN. Congratulations, congratulations you've done that. Like this

586
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: is what it's a vicious cycles he gets paid. I

587
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: would alway.

588
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Speaker 3: I mean, we do a lot of stuff that gets

589
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Speaker 3: used by other shows.

590
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Speaker 2: I hadn't seen it.

591
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Speaker 1: Extra jack, dude, I'm still waiting for my ring from

592
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: the RAMS for the Super Bowl from you know, getting

593
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: getting shot I gotta start going full with two letters

594
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: a week, Jason.

595
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Speaker 4: And don't forget how Mike Breen had to explain to

596
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Speaker 4: the audience at the beginning why he didn't use the bang.

597
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because he got called out for it, Like

598
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Speaker 4: why are you didn't address it?

599
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

600
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like he he didn't on the Halliburton shot to

601
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Speaker 1: end game one, he just gave a bang.

602
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Speaker 2: We talked about it, like I'd like to give a bang.

603
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we did, because we talked about it that night, like, wow,

604
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Speaker 1: Mike Breen didn't give that a double bang or anything else.

605
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: He just gave it a bang, and then people talked

606
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: about it. So it's like Game water in the finals.

607
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: It should have been a triple right. So so he

608
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Speaker 1: says after I didn't give it a bank because I

609
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Speaker 1: save it for three pointers.

610
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, enough.

611
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Speaker 1: What happens when Halliburton hits his first shot of Game two,

612
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: he does it, He does a double bank, saying I

613
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: owed him one for that, Like dude, wow, man, Like

614
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: it's like.

615
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: I feel like ESPN's like the.

616
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 1: Satire And here's the comedic character who just searches his

617
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: name on Twitter all the time to see what is

618
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: said about him and reality.

619
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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't believe this.

620
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm doom scrolling and saying all these bad things about me,

621
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: like just go do your thing, have confidence and in

622
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: the thing and what you're doing and putting out and

623
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: just do it right.

624
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: But that this is what happened.

625
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: You could tell ESPN's not confident in their NBA product.

626
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: But it's brand management. You call yourself the leader.

627
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're following guys on Twitter as to what

628
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: they would like to see.

629
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Speaker 2: You know what.

630
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: I would like to see that guy actually with a

631
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: long cape cape and I'd like to see Tony Brothers

632
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 3: wearing a cape in the top hat when he sends

633
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: SGA to the free throw.

634
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 2: Like, what do we do?

635
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: We there's referee Tony Brothers in the cape and hat

636
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: looking very much like Hugh Jackman and as Pt Barnum

637
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: time out the thunder want to talk it over because

638
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: Zach Effron is now on the court and they are

639
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: now going back and forth trying to figure out who

640
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: owes what money. This goes way back to the Greatest Showman.

641
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: A sensational move by Zach Effron jumping on the scorers table.

642
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: He carefully he might get his head head head in

643
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: the game and hit a jump shot on you too.

644
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: Now, so again again, when you don't have a voice,

645
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: that's what happens. Now.

646
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: I mentioned this right because now we were waiting three

647
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: days for the NBA pier.

648
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Right, now, here's long gestation process before?

649
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Because I forgot, I said, which was the NBA Finals

650
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: that I couldn't think about? Which was had the longest

651
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: time between games? I said, it was one like in

652
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: the seventies, and it was.

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Speaker 2: I looked it up. It was seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: It was the Bullets and the Sonics when they played,

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Speaker 1: and it took eighteen days to play seven games. Eighteen days.

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Speaker 1: They started on May twenty five. I'm sorry, they started

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Speaker 1: on May twenty first, Right, they started on May twenty first.

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Speaker 1: They finished on June seventh. Okay, they played on May

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Speaker 1: twenty first, three days off between game one and game two.

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Speaker 1: So twenty first, twenty fifth, twenty eighth, the thirtieth, the second,

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Speaker 1: the fourth, and the.

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Speaker 2: Seventh did they run into a bunch of concerts or

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Speaker 2: the circus? Yet?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm funny you say that because this is my

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Speaker 1: favorite part of this story. Right, So eighteen days and

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Speaker 1: I love that though every every article about this says,

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Speaker 1: you know, rumors that the NBA did this for television,

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Speaker 1: like really in seventy eight and then for television.

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Speaker 2: Okay, fine, hey man, this tape delay games.

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Speaker 1: But going over the attendance of the series, you see

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Speaker 1: like attendance Game one nineteen thousand, Game two eighteen, whatever,

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Speaker 1: Game three nineteen, game game four thirty nine thousand, like

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Speaker 1: thirty nine thousand. So I went look, they played the

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Speaker 1: first two games at Seattle, played at home in the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Coliseum.

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Speaker 2: They played Game four in the Kingdome. How about that?

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, Like, how do you have

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Speaker 1: thirty nine thousand people on this?

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Speaker 2: Ok? No, they played They can't dive out an aircraft carrier.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, that's what it is. Right now.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we're playing you know, we're playing you know, the

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Speaker 1: Indiana pace out.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna play. We're gonna say, Caitlyn Clark before Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna work, We're gonna we're gonna play the culture.

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Speaker 1: Letting us play Game five of the NBA Finals. I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about moving to a bigger man.

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Speaker 2: I mean really, I mean, that's that's insane. I love it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, eighteen days to play seven games. But in

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Speaker 1: the middle we're gonna have one game in the kingdon

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Speaker 1: I dig that exit out Valta Fresca Exit Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,

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Speaker 1: done to find out what's trending in the wide world

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Speaker 1: of Sportsman. Man who bet the over on number of

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Speaker 1: runs for the Padres and the Dodgers, He's feeling pretty

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Speaker 1: good right now.

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Speaker 2: It's Martin Weiss.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would be six to six right now in

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Speaker 5: the sixth inning with the dog.

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Speaker 2: Oh, man, can't say six sick? Come on, man, six

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Speaker 2: six six? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You canna open up the portal between heaven and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like cabin in the woods.

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Speaker 5: Who listens after the last time I did this. I'm

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Speaker 5: just making sure those sixes are actually six.

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Speaker 2: Very good, very good.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: I had to double check eight. Just No, six to

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Speaker 5: six for sure. In the sixth inning, No eight's anywhere

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Speaker 5: between the Dodgers and the Padres. With the Dodgers up

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Speaker 5: to bat right now, the Diamondbacks lead the Mariners two

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Speaker 5: to nothing. In the seventh inning, the Angels lead the

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Speaker 5: A's four to two in the eighth inning. Earlier today,

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Speaker 5: in the Stanley Cup Final, Game three series, now to

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Speaker 5: one Florida after a six to one Florida win. Uh

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Speaker 5: Florida scored with a minute into the first period.

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Speaker 2: And never looked back in that one.

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Speaker 5: Earlier today Major League Baseball, the Reds beat the Guardian

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Speaker 5: seven to four, Pirates ten to three over the Marlins.

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Speaker 5: Phillies and Extras beat the Cubs four to three. Brandon

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Speaker 5: Marsh with a walk off. Rays beat the Red Sox

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Speaker 5: ten to eight and eleven innings. Red Sox had their

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Speaker 5: top prospect, Roman Anthony. He played right field tonight, was

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Speaker 5: had an RBI and a walk in a strikeout. Braves

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Speaker 5: beat the Brewers seven to one. Blue Jays and Extras

726
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Speaker 5: five to four over the Cardinals. Kirk Cousins is expected

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Speaker 5: to attend Mini camp in Atlanta, despite him wanting to

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Speaker 5: go to a team where he'll be able to start.

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Speaker 5: Falcons of named Michael Pennocks quarterback one there. The Packers

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Speaker 5: released cornerback Jay r Alexander, the Bengals letting go of

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Speaker 5: linebacker Germain Pratt. Nick Chubb, former Brown's running back, is

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Speaker 5: now a Houston Texan after passing his physical. He's on

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Speaker 5: a one year deal. Cavaliers guard Darius Garland will miss

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Speaker 5: the start of next season. He needs four to five

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Speaker 5: months to recover from toe surgery or remember that injury

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Speaker 5: kept him out of some playoff games. There and Caitlyn

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Speaker 5: Clark will miss her Fiztrad game against the Atlantic Dream

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Speaker 5: against her because of her quad strained fever.

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Speaker 2: Head coach Stephanie.

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Speaker 5: White says the team will be extra cautious with Clark

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Speaker 5: in her return to action.

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Speaker 1: get off the air. Well, today was a huge day

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. We got Mark Stein coming up in

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Speaker 1: about a half hour. He had the story that after

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Speaker 1: there was talked the end of last week, today maybe

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Speaker 1: the Knicks and Jason Kidd might be a match. The

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Speaker 1: Knicks might want to talk to the Mavericks about getting

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Speaker 1: permission to talk to Jason Kidd to be their next

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Speaker 1: head coach. Today, the story has evolved that now both

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Speaker 1: sides there is quote mutual intrigue on the Knicks end,

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Speaker 1: Jason Kidd's behalf two potentially have him come in and

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Speaker 1: takeover for Tom Thibodeaux.

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Speaker 2: This is happening.

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Speaker 1: This is the day you're gonna look back and say,

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Speaker 1: this is when I knew the Nicks got their new

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Speaker 1: head coach, Jason Kidd will be the next head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: This is the day you almost had this.

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Speaker 1: Because you don't get to a point where a guy

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Speaker 1: with a job says I'd like another job unless it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen, because this is the thing you don't do,

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Speaker 1: because yes, I get that.

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Speaker 2: Look, the Mavericks don't want to do any favors for.

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Speaker 1: The Knicks after the Nicks stole Jalen Brunson from them,

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Speaker 1: and now here they are shopping in the Mavericks aisle again,

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Speaker 1: going we're gonna take one Jason Kidd as well.

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Speaker 2: What's gonna be left is the.

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Speaker 1: Knicks haggling with the Mavericks for whatever the the the

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Speaker 1: compensation is going to be because Jason Kidd is contracted

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Speaker 1: with the Mavericks, got a new contract he signed last year.

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Speaker 1: But look, things change, right they traded Luca Dodgicch. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this is not the team that Jason kidds signed up

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Speaker 1: to coach, even though Cooper Flagg is coming. Hey, the

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Speaker 1: Knicks are ready to win. Jason Kidd's a really good coach,

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Speaker 1: gotten further than Tibbs, and so for him to say

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Speaker 1: I have intrigue. You can't go back to Dallas after this, right,

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Speaker 1: you know? Once you say hey, I'm into it's like

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Speaker 1: when when you're dating somebody and they go, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying we want to break up, but there's somebody

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Speaker 1: else I might be interested in. You're done, that relationship

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Speaker 1: is done.

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Speaker 2: It's over.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, yeah, well, Das, it's over. Whether you say,

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Speaker 1: oh no, no, I don't mean we should break up,

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Speaker 1: but there's somebody. No, it's over. It's over.

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Speaker 2: Now, you don't do this.

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Speaker 1: This doesn't come out unless this is going to happen,

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Speaker 1: because it's very risky for both sides. Now, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks are gonna hold into whatever compensation they want,

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Speaker 1: not gonna say we want Karl Anthony Towns, but it's

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Speaker 1: going to be something where it's gonna they're gonna draw

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Speaker 1: it out and make the Knicks pay whatever they have to,

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Speaker 1: because clearly they've identified Jason kitt the first name that

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Speaker 1: came out that they'd be interested in is Jason Kittt.

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Speaker 1: That was the first name that came out. And now

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Speaker 1: there's mutual intrigue. Whi's like, come on, what the hell

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Speaker 1: is that? But mutual intrigue which sounds like a bad

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Speaker 1: movie on Cinemax late at night.

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Speaker 3: Mutual intriguing, Well, you know what I dig that I

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Speaker 3: might write, but this is this is how it goes

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Speaker 3: in situations like this.

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Speaker 1: It's going to happen. It's just now they're haggling over

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Speaker 1: the final price and Jason Kidd'll be coaching the next

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Speaker 1: next season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just along the lines of my, uh, here's what

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Speaker 3: I'm envisioning. And then you wait and pause and see

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Speaker 3: how people reply. Okay, sure, did they laugh, did they

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Speaker 3: get disgusted? I mean, I don't know, but mutual into

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Speaker 3: an interest in this way for Jason Kidd. I'm disappointed

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Speaker 3: it comes to this fast. I'm gonna just say that.

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Speaker 3: I was really kind of hoping this would drag out

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Speaker 3: for a couple of weeks as we get ready for

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Speaker 3: the draft, But clearly there is some push to get

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Speaker 3: these things done.

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Speaker 2: Point guard for point guard.

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Speaker 3: When we talk about Jason Kidd working with Jalen Brunson,

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Speaker 3: perhaps he thought they got rid.

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Speaker 2: Of the wrong guy a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, shoots him for Jason Kidd, maybe we're

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Speaker 3: working with and four Nico doesn't work for him, and

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Speaker 3: he did a good job of selling things after that

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Speaker 3: deal was made with the roster in place, never actually

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Speaker 3: got to really play with that roster. Kyrie Irving getting hurt,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis missing time, Klay Thompson ends up being the

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Speaker 3: last man standing who would have thunk it.

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Speaker 2: But all of that to say, yeah, you're in a

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Speaker 2: different world than you were when.

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Speaker 3: That contract extension was signed, and the trajectory of that

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00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 3: squad now again, they could be interesting next year, but

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00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: it really requires the basketball gods to smile upon them

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Speaker 3: with good health and fortune and for Cooper Flag to.

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Speaker 2: Come in and be that guy up right away.

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Speaker 3: For the Knicks, it's on the plate right Whether Leon

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Speaker 3: Rose got it right or not, we don't know because

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00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 3: Tom Tibbeau didn't play those guys except sporadically towards the end.

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Speaker 3: And that remains the you know, thirty million dollar question

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Speaker 3: in terms of the money they sent him out with

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Speaker 3: because they're not going to let him answer it and

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Speaker 3: pushing forward.

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Speaker 2: But for Jason Kidd, the mutual interest. You can unring

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Speaker 2: that bell.

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Speaker 3: No, So whoever's agent decided that that's what's going out,

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Speaker 3: it's done.

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Speaker 2: It's been reported.

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Speaker 3: Mark Stein had it first, and it's been corroborated and

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00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: doubled up upon in every municipality thereafter.

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Speaker 1: And look before you think, well, the Mavericks are now.

872
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 1: Like I said, they don't want to do the Knicks.

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00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: Any fake Knicks just showed up and said, hey, with

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00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: taking your point guard. Now they're back again, Ay with

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00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: taking your coach. Wait a minute, save it's not gonna

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00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: do this to me. But remember there were people that

877
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: thought they overpaid for j right.

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Speaker 2: Run right right. Yeah, I don't want saying that anymore.

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00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 1: But you can't have a coach coaching your team that

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00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be there right now. That's no matter

881
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: how it breaks down. If Jason Kidd wants to go,

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00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: they have to find a way to make it up.

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00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: And they will and they'll make the Knicks pay. I

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00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: am sure because the Knicks feel like this is this

885
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: is the missing piece for us, whether it's getting KD

886
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: on the courtway, but this is a huge missing piece.

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Speaker 1: They will make them pay, but it's good because you

888
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: can't have a guy coach who may not want to

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Speaker 1: be there.

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Speaker 2: Well, but it's like the last topic we're just talking about.

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Speaker 3: This is the team you put forward to broadcast your finals,

892
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: stick by them, stick by the product that you spent

893
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 3: millions of dollars to produce. Likewise, here it's the this

894
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: is you either going forward or not. And if you've decided,

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00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 3: it's like we talked about in Denver, right, they decided

896
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: Malone and Booth had to go see you all right,

897
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 3: Now we're into the playoffs, Let's see what we can

898
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: do for the Mavericks, for Jason Kidd. They decide, evidently

899
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Speaker 3: it's an untenable situation, so go figure it out, figure

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Speaker 3: out what that compensation is, and move forward and let

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Speaker 3: Cooper Flag decide who he wants as his head coach.

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Speaker 1: Cooper, if I'm gonna throw some names out here, it's like,

903
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: what's that Jimmy Fallon bit when he shows pictures of

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Speaker 1: stars and people just say the first and it comes

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Speaker 1: in there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know?

907
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Speaker 3: Is if Wright suddenly comes out of the broadcast booth.

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Speaker 1: For that one boy, tell you, man, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, today's a big day.

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Speaker 2: The Knicks. The Knicks unofficially got Jason Kid today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, it's gonna be curious to see what

912
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: that level of compensation is. Right, We've been talking a

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Speaker 3: lot about what bad money spent and what you need

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Speaker 3: to pay out for the Knicks. They're already out the

915
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: thirty million on TIBs. What's another thirty.

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Speaker 2: Could I see?

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Speaker 1: Like, obviously the money's gonna be a thing, but could

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Speaker 1: I see a lesser player in a draft pick?

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Speaker 2: I could see that for Jason Kid. We want Kat

920
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Speaker 2: and I don't know. Okay, let's not be crazy. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's not pick.

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Speaker 3: And also remember it's a different world than you were in, right,

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Speaker 3: the front office, guys, the ownership, Hell, the ownership's done different.

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Speaker 3: In Dallas, exit out about a Fresco exit Swollen Dome,

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Speaker 3: got a big story from the NFL coming up next