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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to a victory Monday for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 2: the Steelers dispatching the Cleveland Browns yesterday twenty seven to

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Speaker 2: fourteen in a game that really wasn't even that close.

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Speaker 3: No, not really. I thought they controlled it after the

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Speaker 3: first three or four offensive drives. I thought they were

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Speaker 3: pretty much in control, kind of with the feeling of

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Speaker 3: these guys are going to make mistakes, Let's not make mistakes,

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Speaker 3: you know, And I thought that was the theme to

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Speaker 3: the game. Well, and really you seelorious and fun to

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Speaker 3: talk about them Monday.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you see that in a lot of

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Speaker 2: games across the league, like just let the other team

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Speaker 2: screw this up.

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Speaker 3: And the Browns have a pension for doing so. In

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Speaker 3: their quarterback dangerous but he has a real pension for

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Speaker 3: doing so. And their kicker has a real pension for

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Speaker 3: doing so, and you know.

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Speaker 2: And Kadarius Tony has a real pension for doing so.

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Speaker 3: Some little dudes, right yea.

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Speaker 2: Why, there's why he's bounced around to a few different teams. Yeah, point,

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Speaker 2: just going out and taking care of business there.

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Speaker 3: I thought the to me, that's the story of the game,

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Speaker 3: which isn't super fun to talk about or Wow, this

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Speaker 3: team's a powerhouse, but your jobs beat the Browns and

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Speaker 3: take a two game lead in the division, and the

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Speaker 3: best path of doing that was play close to the best.

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Speaker 3: You don't have pickens and don't screw things up and

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Speaker 3: wait for them to Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the big thing is that he didn't have pickens. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you saw the offense take some time to get

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Speaker 2: warmed up to not having pickens. For example, Scotty was

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Speaker 2: talking to Scotty Miller after the game and he's like,

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Speaker 2: I found out like three minutes before they announced the

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Speaker 2: before they announced the inactives, that George wasn't gonna play.

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Speaker 2: They were all under the understanding that George was going

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Speaker 2: to play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's.

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Speaker 2: The last second he was expecting to be in active.

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Speaker 3: And he's been an act of the last several games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and had caught.

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Speaker 2: A ball a passed since the Chargers game that was

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Speaker 2: in week two, Week two, you know, and and so

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now you're out there and Wilson's

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Speaker 2: throwing them the football like three times on the first

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Speaker 2: two drives. You know, it's like okay.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: So I did another show with Rob King, Who's going

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Speaker 3: to join us next segment, and he was bringing it up,

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Speaker 3: and I thought it was a great point that, frankly,

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Speaker 3: the bottom of the roster guys have been a real

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Speaker 3: story for this team. Yea, in this game as well

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Speaker 3: as really for the whole season. I mean Scronic and

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Speaker 3: Pierre and Miller and all those type of dudes. They

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Speaker 3: chip in and they contribute.

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Speaker 2: That's why, and I wrote this in my ten Thoughts,

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Speaker 2: that's why it's important to have guys like a Scottie Miller, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: as your five or six number five or six receiver

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Speaker 2: or ben' Skronik. These are guys who have played a

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Speaker 2: lot of football in the league. They've been around for

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Speaker 2: a while.

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Speaker 3: Offense and special team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so a guy like Miller he's talking about,

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Speaker 2: he goes, Look, I've been on teams where you know,

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Speaker 2: you just didn't know when you were going to get

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Speaker 2: be acquired. Yeah, whereas that if that's a that's if

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Speaker 2: that's a rookie or a first year guy who hasn't

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Speaker 2: been through this stuff. Oh, you get a tendency to mope.

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Speaker 2: Aw man, I'm in active again this week. I've been

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Speaker 2: in active the last five weeks. I'm not even like

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And so.

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Speaker 2: You just kind of half asset through all your your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in pers human nature, you know, I mean maybe

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Speaker 2: Know like that, you like it's you know, holiday time,

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Speaker 3: Right, or have family in or whatever. You know. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I think that's great. So they're professional, they're professionals, and

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Speaker 3: they're versatile, and they're unselfish, and they'll block and they'll

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Speaker 3: in a way, I think that's a big portion of

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Speaker 3: and nine were targeted, and Russ understands, you're out here scraping,

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Speaker 3: and you know I'm gonna get you the football get you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, just a little reward.

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Speaker 3: And you're often gonna see single coverage too, you know,

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Speaker 3: without pickens of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I thought that was a big thing. I

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Speaker 2: thought that I thought the defense played really well. I mean, Cam.

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Speaker 2: So last week and I like, I read the article

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Speaker 2: Football Focus wrote that that, you know, nobody's talking about

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Speaker 2: Cam Hayward's potential defensive player of the year, and maybe

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Speaker 2: he should be in that conversation. So then I start

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Speaker 2: looking at his numbers today after he's not out the

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he.

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Speaker 2: Leads all defensive tackles with fifty five tackles this season.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that he's got the eight passes batted down.

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Speaker 2: He's got eight tackles or no ten tackles for a

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Speaker 3: I bet the Steelers would vote for him as the

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Speaker 3: Steelers defensive Player of the Year. Yeah, I mean I'm watching.

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Speaker 3: If you beat the number one candidate in the league,

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Speaker 3: ye for it. I mean that's a knock on Wat

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Speaker 3: and what's been awesome too. But Cam's had the best

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I'm watching Chris Jones.

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Speaker 2: Chris Jones is a great player, Yeah he is. But

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Speaker 3: He brings his best on third and eights and things

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Speaker 2: Cam's better. You know, you know where he's going to

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Speaker 2: be at every single time, and you still can't block.

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Speaker 3: and down out dirty work. We had the same conversation

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Speaker 3: one week ago. Bengals had some long runs, not when.

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Speaker 2: He was not when he was on the field. I

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Speaker 3: The field sideline, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's seventeen years run. Oh they got him when Cam

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Speaker 2: and you see it. You see it with Wat too.

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Speaker 2: If there's a series where Wat's not out there, I've

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Speaker 2: seen I've seen teams go to the hurry up, let's sorry,

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Speaker 3: This is that one series that starts with Smith as

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Speaker 2: So that affects the game as well.

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Speaker 3: Huge, absolutely huge, And the other guys on the defense

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Speaker 3: It's different. DJ's not in there. They're gonna play. It's different.

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Speaker 3: I mean, of course. And I don't know if he'll

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Speaker 3: We'll get the Garrett. He was invisible yesterday. I mean

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Speaker 3: him and Wat are the I guess the leaders in

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Speaker 3: the clubhouse. So is it a Watt versus Cam conversation.

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Speaker 2: It might be in their defense. I mean they're leading

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Speaker 2: the league in takeaways. They added three more yesterday. Uh,

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Speaker 2: the top of league interceptions too, Yeah, top of the

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Speaker 3: Lot of good stuff absolutely, then some of it is

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Speaker 3: beyond the numbers, Like their sack numbers aren't great as

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Speaker 3: I mean. That's huge and they'll be huge this week

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Speaker 2: I really thought that the pass rush, even though they

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Speaker 2: I thought they really affected the way he threw the football.

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Speaker 2: He felt the pass rush a lot and threw high

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Speaker 3: Complete rush things when he did throw or was not

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Speaker 3: plays as an athlete better than any point of his career.

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Speaker 3: I mean the early career. Jamis might have taken seven

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Speaker 3: Like he's gotten better with that, but he was eight.

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Speaker 2: Of nineteen in the first half in that game. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and they were you know, Salem balls to

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Speaker 3: Or just throwaways, a lot of throwaways, you know, they

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Speaker 3: just get me out of just happy. I didn't take

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Speaker 3: a sack type of play right, right, it's a zero

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't protect the chief all that well yesterday. No,

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Speaker 2: chief didn't get the ball out in time like he

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Speaker 3: And we were talking right before we hit record too.

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Speaker 3: Even the Browns rushing stats are misleading because a lot

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Speaker 3: of them were in the second half against prevent type stuff.

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Speaker 3: When you're begging them to run.

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Speaker 2: Please, we're up twenty points here and you're still running

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll give me six every time you want it.

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Speaker 3: You know. So everyone knows a big stack guy, But

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Speaker 3: I thought the stat sheet didn't do the defense true,

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Speaker 3: you know, and maybe even on the offense too, because

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Speaker 3: Steelers ran the ball well early in the game, and

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Speaker 2: Took the air out of the ball in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Wilson only threw ten passes in the second

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Speaker 2: half of that game. Yeah, two of them were touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: but they threw ten passes in the second half.

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Speaker 3: But you to be the norm around here. But without

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Speaker 3: the touchdown, yeah right, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 3: when he is those were daggers. They were daggers. They

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Speaker 3: I can't stress enough. I mean, to me, the biggest

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Speaker 3: If this isn't your day, we don't have to have

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That was Wilson's the seventy third game in his

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Speaker 2: Oh, he's awful.

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Speaker 2: I even looked to see what it is. If you

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if you win in no matter what

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Speaker 2: It's over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And even just beating since he might be enough. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't know what they are either.

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Speaker 3: They get the Chiefs, they got Houston.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to do with Denver getting a field goal blocked.

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Speaker 3: They definitely have gotten about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm rooting for him.

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Speaker 3: That's how they're living right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they're not an unbeatable juggernaut.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they just love to see him trying to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that should be a problem. Like I don't want

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Speaker 2: Right, you're not going to dominate that, No, no, no, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: But anyways, let's get to a break. Steelers coming off

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Speaker 2: that happens quite It didn't happen yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I think he's safe this year.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 3: I think he gets one more. But they're in a

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But let's get to a break. When we return,

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Speaker 2: we'll be talking to Steelers play by play announcer Rob King.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and we're joined on the Justin Miller

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Speaker 2: Hotline by published author Rob King. How you doing?

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Speaker 4: King?

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Speaker 2: Here the steel voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers

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Speaker 2: getting another victory yesterday, twenty seven to fourteen over the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. They imp proved to five and one at home,

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Speaker 2: of course, three and one in the Division, seven and

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Speaker 2: the kind of numbers that you want to have and

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Speaker 2: improving to. They've now won twenty one consecutive game regular

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Speaker 5: It was thank you for the book plug by the way,

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Speaker 4: So thank you, Thanks you the guys, thank you for

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Speaker 5: So you know what I really felt like when there

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Speaker 5: I thought it was the clear turning point of the game.

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Speaker 5: But you know, they got some help along the way

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Speaker 5: because the Browns of the Browns, a couple of miss

441
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Speaker 5: field goals, a.

442
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Speaker 4: Couple of interceptions.

443
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Speaker 5: You know, you mentioned that. Look, the Browns had a

444
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Speaker 5: chance to do something they hadn't done in you know,

445
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Speaker 5: in thirty three years, in that thirty three seasons, not years,

446
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,400
Speaker 5: because remember they weren't the Cleveland Browns for a little while. Yeah,

447
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 5: and that is sweetest season series against the Steers. After

448
00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,200
Speaker 5: they won the first game up in Cleveland.

449
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Speaker 4: Couldn't do it.

450
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Speaker 5: You mentioned the twenty one game you know, home winning

451
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Speaker 5: streak during the regular season for the Steelers. You know,

452
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 5: the Browns just they couldn't get out of their own way,

453
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Speaker 5: and the students let them, Steelers let them do a

454
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Speaker 5: pratfall and they played. You know, Russell Wilson made smart

455
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Speaker 5: decisions of the ball and there wasn't something there. He

456
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 5: threw it away. It looked disjointed, but you know, rather

457
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,280
Speaker 5: than forcing something down the field on the third and

458
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,399
Speaker 5: six and you know, fans groaning and where you know,

459
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 5: where's the rhythm on the offense, just throw it away.

460
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,440
Speaker 5: We'll find a way. We're the better team. And they

461
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Speaker 5: found a way, and they were the better team.

462
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Speaker 3: So I've yet to watch you all twenty two, but

463
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Speaker 3: you had a different vantage point than me. I watched

464
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Speaker 3: from TV like most of our listeners, What did you

465
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Speaker 3: think the absence of pickings meant, I mean more man coverage,

466
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Speaker 3: you know, less rolling coverages, a certain direction, stack in

467
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Speaker 3: the box. And do you think the Steelers took a

468
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Speaker 3: minute or two to a just.

469
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Speaker 4: I think that.

470
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Speaker 5: I think that all those things were part of it.

471
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Speaker 5: And I think Cleveland and other teams dare this, yearers

472
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Speaker 5: to run this yeatherers. It feels to me, Matt, and

473
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Speaker 5: you have the statistics on this, it feels to me

474
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Speaker 5: that they see.

475
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 4: A lot of heavy boxes.

476
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Speaker 5: Now, I am, as I mentioned you guys before, I

477
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 5: watched the game differently.

478
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Speaker 4: Now it's it's up to me to watch.

479
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 5: The ball, it's up to Wolf to watch kind of

480
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Speaker 5: what else is going on around.

481
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Speaker 2: So my guess is I thought, as well it felt

482
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Speaker 2: that way.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it felt that way.

484
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Speaker 5: And then and I think other teams have done that.

485
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 4: And it also felt like.

486
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Speaker 5: Guys weren't open because I felt like Russell Wilson had

487
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Speaker 5: enough time to get back, take a look and then

488
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Speaker 5: okay maybe one two, and then okay, nobody's open now right,

489
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 5: I got to get rid of the ball.

490
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Speaker 2: So and he was a lot more willing to run yesterday.

491
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, without seeing like you said, you know,

492
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Speaker 5: a different replay of at a different angle of it.

493
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Speaker 5: My guess is that that was happening because guys weren't open.

494
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 5: If you know, felt okay, there's you know, you take

495
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 5: your snap, you look boom boom, and now you're throwing

496
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 5: the ball away.

497
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Speaker 4: There's usually not time for boom boom boom. You know,

498
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Speaker 4: you have a chance to take a couple.

499
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Speaker 5: Of looks and then you know, get out of there

500
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 5: running the ball or throw the ball away and understand

501
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 5: that you know you're the you are the better team,

502
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Speaker 5: and you will find a way to win this game.

503
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Speaker 3: And the piggyback off that though, I think he realized, Okay,

504
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: my guys aren't swanning Stallworth and Pickens. I mean they're

505
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 3: struggling to get open against good secondary. But as the

506
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 3: game goes on, they're still single covered. Whether it's Scotty

507
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 3: Miller or Mike Williams or whoever, I'm gonna throw them

508
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Speaker 3: open now. I'm gonna give him a chance one on one.

509
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 3: Trust my guys.

510
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he made some good throws. I mean, you know,

511
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Speaker 5: when you are you know, and I think Scotty Miller,

512
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Speaker 5: you know, look, he played a couple of games and

513
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 5: and just made really good contributions catching the ball. You know,

514
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 5: suddenly now he's a gunner and he's a holder in

515
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Speaker 5: in Indianapolis.

516
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Speaker 4: You know, just a nice football player.

517
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Speaker 5: To have on your team and and be available when

518
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Speaker 5: you need to press him into service. But I don't

519
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 5: think the prototypical guy that you're running up the sideline

520
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Speaker 5: with and throwing him an over the shoulder.

521
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Speaker 2: Face replacement, guys don't.

522
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Speaker 4: Don't.

523
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Speaker 2: Necessarily you want to live right.

524
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Speaker 5: When you're throwing it over the shoulder throw, you want

525
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Speaker 5: that shoulder to be a little higher off the ground.

526
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

527
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that which is not to say that Scotty

528
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Speaker 5: Miller didn't didn't do some really valuable things for that team.

529
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Speaker 5: He did, But yes, I think Pickens was missed. And guys,

530
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Speaker 5: you know, we know this like you you know, when

531
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Speaker 5: when you have to take a look at the Bengals

532
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Speaker 5: for example, right, you have to guard uh Jamar Chase. Okay,

533
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Speaker 5: that's a problem, and it's a bigger problem because you

534
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 5: also have t Higgins, which then becomes a bigger problem

535
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 5: because you have Chase Brown out of the backfield and

536
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 5: then Jessecki and most teams run out of personnel to

537
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 5: cover guys that are that good, So you're gonna get

538
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 5: mismatches somewhere else. Well, when you have a fine secondary

539
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 5: like the Browns do and you don't have to roll

540
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 5: your coverage one way or the other, that that's an

541
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Speaker 5: advantage for a team like that. So, you know, I

542
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Speaker 5: think there's you know, Pickens is out there, you want

543
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Speaker 5: to go one on one, Well, that's that's.

544
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: At your peril, you know. So.

545
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Speaker 5: And you know, I think the team's guarding the Bengals

546
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Speaker 5: right of defending the Bengals. They have to worry about

547
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 5: Jamar Chase. But man, oh man, you worry about him

548
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 5: too much. Now you got Higgins. So I think that

549
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 5: and everybody has their everybody has their role.

550
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 4: In their place that they fit in best on a team.

551
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Speaker 5: Just because a guy isn't a number one doesn't mean

552
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Speaker 5: he's not a good football player. There aren't a lot

553
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Speaker 5: of ones walking around on the planet. There are on

554
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Speaker 5: a number a lot of franchise quarterbacks running around on

555
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Speaker 5: the planet. So that's no slight to anybody. It's just

556
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 5: that's just kind of the way things are.

557
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Speaker 2: One thing that I thought was a positive out of

558
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: all that yesterday rob is that they were able to

559
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: get Mike Williams involved a little bit more, and you know,

560
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 2: people have been I can't tell you how many times

561
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 2: I've been asked about that. You know, when are they

562
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Speaker 2: going to start throwing a ball of Mike Williams. I'm like,

563
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 2: it's been four games, let's not you know, he's not

564
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: like he's not out there, because that was one thing.

565
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 2: Why isn't Mike Williams out there? Well, he played seventy

566
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Speaker 2: snaps in four games, and he barely played the first

567
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Speaker 2: game that he's with the team, so you know, he

568
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: was playing about twenty snaps a game. But now they

569
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: were able to incorporate him a little bit in a

570
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 2: game type setting where you know, now maybe he and

571
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Speaker 2: Wilson are starting to get on the same page a

572
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 2: little bit, and maybe you start to see that happening

573
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Speaker 2: down the stretch, best things might be ahead.

574
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's entirely possible. You know again, that's

575
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Speaker 5: that's a necessity thing. I remember talking to you know,

576
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 5: I was having a conversation once with Jamie Dixon about, hey,

577
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: do you guys, you know you lost a player, but

578
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 5: now this gives other guys a chance to play. You

579
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 5: think this could be better for you down the stretch. Well,

580
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 5: if it was gonna be better for us down the stretch,

581
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 5: we'd be doing it without the guy, wouldn't. We wouldn't

582
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 5: need him to get hurt to be able to make

583
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 5: that move. They're coaching out there too, So I do

584
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 5: think though that sometimes, you know, necessity is the mother

585
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 5: of invention, and you got to get guys out there

586
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 5: and hopefully that will in fact pay off for all

587
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 5: parties and make them again more difficult to defend. You know,

588
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 5: if you feel like, look, this is our advantage, this

589
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 5: is where.

590
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Speaker 4: We can go.

591
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Speaker 5: Yes, you've got George Pickens, but look, you know, Calvin

592
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 5: Austin has been making plays for this team. Fireman has

593
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 5: been making place, you know, in a little bit more

594
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 5: modest fashion. Washington has been making place for the team.

595
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 5: I mean he's not you know, hasn't gotten into the

596
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 5: end zone a ton, But I mean you're finding they'll

597
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 5: they'll find the mismatches. And if you can find another

598
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 5: guy that can potentially supply a mismatch for you, even

599
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 5: if that guy is you know, uh, the third man

600
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: down on the list, that's okay because those guys can

601
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 5: have big games for you too. So you know, because

602
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 5: you know, listen, you have two really good corners. Well

603
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 5: maybe that nickel guy isn't so good, or maybe that

604
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 5: fourth you know, maybe that dime package guy that you're

605
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 5: bringing in, maybe that's your mismatch. And the deeper you are,

606
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 5: the more capability you have of exploiting whatever mismatch is

607
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 5: presented to you.

608
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Speaker 2: And I also think, like, okay, for future opponents. If

609
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 2: you're gonna roll coverage, you're gonna roll the safety over

610
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 2: top of George Pickens, which most teams are gonna do.

611
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: You your second cornerback who's one on one with Mike

612
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: Williams on the other side, he'd better have some pretty

613
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: good size.

614
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: To him, say, better be a five to nine dude.

615
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna get he's gonna get dunked on.

616
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: That's right, That's right, you know.

617
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Speaker 5: And then okay, so now maybe that happens, and now

618
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 5: maybe another team, Hey, listen, their best dying packages with

619
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Speaker 5: the safety and you know, we're gonna we're gonna put

620
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: that safety over.

621
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Speaker 4: By Calvin Austin. Good luck man, you know.

622
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 5: Uh So, you know, like I said that, the deeper,

623
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 5: the deeper that you go with your talent, the more

624
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 5: capabilities you have of exploiting the other team. And and

625
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 5: so I think that, you know, maybe Mike Williams, you know,

626
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: coming forward and having a game like that will give

627
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 5: them another guy on their roster that will eventually and

628
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 5: it may not, it might not be every week, And

629
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Speaker 5: I think that this is gonna be.

630
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: And we thought this going in without another you know, hey,

631
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 4: we're got they got to get somebody else for pickings.

632
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: And you know the rumors where they were trying to

633
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 5: write a UK and other guys that they were trying

634
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 5: to pick up. So this is nobody's blindsided by this.

635
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 5: But if you have a quarterback who can read defenses

636
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 5: like Russell Wilson, who knows what to exploit like a

637
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 5: guy like Russell Wilson does, and you have enough variety

638
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 5: that's somewhere in there, you can and you know what,

639
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 5: this week, it might be that slow nickel against that

640
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 5: slow safety against Calvin Austin. Next week it might be

641
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 5: that shorter nickel against Mike Williams. You know, you have

642
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: enough variety, enough and enough depth I think on this

643
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 5: team to be able to find something outside of George

644
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 5: Pickens hopefully every game that you can take advantage of.

645
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: So two guys that I don't think get discussed enough

646
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: that we already know are good players. They're not bottom

647
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: of the roster guys or foundational offensive weapons. Are Jalen

648
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: Warren and Pat Fryermuth. And I really feel like over

649
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: this last month, two, three weeks, whatever, both these guys

650
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 3: have kind of leveled up at the right time. I mean,

651
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 3: they look better than ever. I think Friarmuth and Wilson

652
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 3: are starting to really gel. His snaps are going up,

653
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: and frankly, I thought Warren was their best offensive player

654
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: on the field lay yesterday Wilson aside, you know.

655
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's a good point. I didn't look

656
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 5: at it in that context, but I think you're right.

657
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Speaker 5: And Jalen Warren, I think we all really think Jalen

658
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Speaker 5: Warren is a terrific football player.

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Speaker 4: And then he got hurt.

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Speaker 5: He was dealing with injuries and he's, you know, to

661
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Speaker 5: using Mike Tomlin phrase, you know, trying to jump on

662
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Speaker 5: a moving train, and you know, is he is he

663
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Speaker 5: fully you know, he comes back and then he gets

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Speaker 5: hurt again and now he's out for a while, and

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Speaker 5: so it is just natural that it's gonna take him

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Speaker 5: some time to get up to speed. And I think

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Speaker 5: we are seeing more and more lately the jail And

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Speaker 5: Warren that we saw last year, where he's breaking tackles

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Speaker 5: and just hard to bring down. You know, yeah, explosive,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I like the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 5: one thing I like about both Nagi and Jalen Warren,

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Speaker 5: you know, and I think Jalen's a little more explosive.

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Speaker 5: But you know, neither guy shows the least bit of

674
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Speaker 5: interest in being tackled, you know what I mean. They

675
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Speaker 5: will fight you right down to the ground, and I

676
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Speaker 5: love that. And every once in a while, Jalen Warren,

677
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Speaker 5: you know, I've never seen a guy, rarely seen a

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Speaker 5: guy that can get three inches off the ground like

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Speaker 5: Jalen Warren not go down, you know, all of a

680
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: sudden that arm comes out and he's bopping himself along

681
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Speaker 5: and picking up another four or five yards or or

682
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Speaker 5: getting himself back up right again so we can run.

683
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Speaker 5: So yeah, he's he's a guy. And again you talk

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Speaker 5: about different mismatches. I mean, would it surprise me somewhere

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Speaker 5: in the next few weeks or in the playoffs if

686
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Speaker 5: you looked up and all of a sudden he had

687
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Speaker 5: one hundred and you know, fifty yards of total offense

688
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Speaker 5: in a game. That wouldn't surprise me. Because he can

689
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Speaker 5: get out in the perimeter. In the passing game, he

690
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Speaker 5: could he can break a big run for you. That's

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Speaker 5: why I sted like maybe he could be the weapon

692
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Speaker 5: and Pat Fryermouth finding the end zone more and more regularly.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's a guy that that teams have to

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Speaker 5: account for. So again, I think there's there are a

695
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Speaker 5: wide variety of good football players that the Steelers, Arthur Smith,

696
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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin, Russell Wilson have at their disposal to be

697
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Speaker 5: able to utilize in a way. And like I said,

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't think outside of Pickings, you know,

699
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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be a different hero every week

700
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Speaker 5: kind of thing. But I do think there's enough variety

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Speaker 5: there that that there can be a different hero in

702
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Speaker 5: addition to Pickens every week.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've seen that on defense in a lot of

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Speaker 2: different ways. I mean, you look at yesterday, Deshaun Elliott

705
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Speaker 2: has thirteen tackles in that game. It looked like there

706
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Speaker 2: were two of them out there. And while he was

707
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Speaker 2: doing that, Patrick Queen still had ten tackles in that game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got two guys combined for twenty three tackles,

709
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Speaker 2: you know, just all over the field. They both had

710
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Speaker 2: a pass defense as well, kind of limiting what Najoku

711
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: could do. He got thirteen hit, thirteen targets and I

712
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Speaker 2: think it was seven catches for forty two yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of them a fifteen yard touchdown push off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that that he basically shoved it out of the ground.

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Speaker 5: I'm still you know, if Mike Williams, if what Mike

717
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Speaker 5: Williams did was pass interference in what Nadjoku did was

718
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Speaker 5: certainly pass appearance.

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Speaker 2: But I mean then you look at what Cam Hayward

720
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Speaker 2: did yesterday. He was a monster again yesterday. TJ Watt

721
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Speaker 2: with that, I thought he kind of set the tone

722
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Speaker 2: for the game with that tackle for a loss on

723
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Speaker 2: the on the first play from like, okay, we only

724
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Speaker 2: had one tackle for a loss for the first time around.

725
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Speaker 2: Here's one right out of the gate down. Yeah, pinned

726
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Speaker 2: them back and basically got you know, put the Steelers

727
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Speaker 2: in field goal range to starter drive. You know, high

728
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Speaker 2: Smith comes back and gets a sack, hits it, hits

729
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Speaker 2: a quarterback a couple of times. I mean, it was

730
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Speaker 2: just a solid defensive effort all the way around once again,

731
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Speaker 2: and you held that Browns offense which had you know,

732
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Speaker 2: ran up and down the field against Denver in Denver

733
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Speaker 2: last Sunday against Monday Night, I should say, against a

734
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Speaker 2: really good Denver defense that I have a lot of

735
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Speaker 2: respect for, and you hold that that offense under three

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Speaker 2: hundred yards and fourteen points.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're talking about a defense filled with great

738
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Speaker 5: and really good players. I mean, Cam Hayward is a

739
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Speaker 5: great player having a great season. I mean, you know,

740
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Speaker 5: again the talk of the offseason, you know, what can

741
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Speaker 5: this guy? What does he still have left? And he's

742
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Speaker 5: getting older and listen, those are and I understand it

743
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Speaker 5: up probably upset Cam and probably gave him a little

744
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 5: bit of extra edge this year. They're understandable questions. You know,

745
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 5: father time's always going to catch up with a guy.

746
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Speaker 5: Maybe it's catching up with Aaron Rodgers in New York.

747
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: Maybe that we're seeing the beginning of an end. You

748
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Speaker 5: see the beginning of the end of every great player

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Speaker 5: who stays around. So Cam Hayward and I'm sure Cam

750
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Speaker 5: Hereward's like listen, man, I was hurt last year. That's

751
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 5: why my numbers weren't there, and Cams right, that's why

752
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 5: his numbers weren't there. There's nothing like a motivated great player.

753
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Speaker 5: And Cam Hayward, I think was a motivated great player.

754
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Speaker 5: And in my opinion, you know, we're talking about this

755
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Speaker 5: earlier with Matt Dale, but you know, listen, somebody was

756
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Speaker 5: telling me that the odds on favorites for defensive Player

757
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Speaker 5: of the Year were t J. Watt and Miles Garrett

758
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Speaker 5: in some order. Well, Cam Hayward might be muscling his

759
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Speaker 5: way into that conversation a couple more weeks like that.

760
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Speaker 5: He we look up and he has a couple of

761
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Speaker 5: big games on a big stage, and we might be

762
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Speaker 5: you know, he's he is PFF's highest rated interior defensive linement,

763
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Speaker 5: so I think that he is.

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Speaker 4: He's just having a fabulous season. T J.

765
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Speaker 5: Watt is such a great player, Alex Higsmith is so good.

766
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Speaker 5: Countum Benton is so good. Queen is elevating his game

767
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 5: to that status that we knew he was, and it

768
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Speaker 5: took him a couple weeks to acclimate.

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Speaker 4: That's natural.

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Speaker 5: And then you have guys like that, you know we

771
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Speaker 5: knew were pretty good. I always really like Deshaun Elliott's game. Well,

772
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Speaker 5: now that I'm seeing him every every game, I'm like,

773
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Speaker 5: my goodness, he's even better than I thought he was.

774
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Speaker 5: And I didn't know a lot about Dante Jackson and wow,

775
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 5: I mean he's turned out to be a really good

776
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 5: player too. So it's just it's a defense again that

777
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 5: that added so much in the offseason, so much speed

778
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 5: in the middle of the field that was lacking a

779
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: little bit in past years. And yeah, the defense, you know,

780
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Speaker 5: rose to the challenge and did what they needed to

781
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Speaker 5: do to come out with a win. And I'm looking

782
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Speaker 5: forward to them. You know, they're gonna get some big

783
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Speaker 5: challenges coming up and I I can't wait.

784
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Speaker 4: I just think it's going to be fun to see.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. We'll start that on Sunday. Three games and eleven

786
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: days there for you, Rob, So, I hope you have

787
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Speaker 2: the vocal I hope you have the vocal cords all

788
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: warmed up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, get out the lemon pineapples. I told pineapples are

790
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 5: good for your throat. Oh okay, I'll be I'll be

791
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 5: running high on citrus.

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Speaker 2: There you go, oll King here, we'll see you later

793
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: this week. We appreciate you dropping by. That is Rob

794
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Speaker 2: King published author check out the book The Door in

795
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: the in the Stone, right, Yes, yes, the Door in

796
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Speaker 2: the Stone. You can find that on Amazon. He's Matt Williams. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there you go. He's Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 4: Matt.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. And of course you can hear the

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Speaker 2: Drive every Monday through Friday from four to six pm

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Speaker 2: right here on these very airwaves. You can also download

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Mobile app and listen to the show on there,

811
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: or you can watch the show or listen to it

812
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: on YouTube as well. As Tyler Vittmeyer gets that up

813
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: in pretty good fashion every day after the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: leave us comments on there. We appreciate all that stuff. So, Matt,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna play a little game here, and I want

816
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: you to name the AFC team. I'm not going to

817
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: tell you, I'm just gonna give you their points four

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Speaker 2: and points against.

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Speaker 4: I tell you.

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00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So Team A has scored two hundred and seventy

821
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: seven points and allowed two hundred and seven. Team B

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00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: has scored three hundred and eighty three points and allowed

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Speaker 2: three hundred and eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say the Bengals, but they're for

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Speaker 3: a Team B, but they're not that close. They are

826
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Speaker 3: closer to zero. This isn't easy.

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Speaker 2: Team Team A is the Chargers. Two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: seven points scored. That adds up two hundred and seven allowed,

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Speaker 2: which is the best in pretty low right. Yeah, yeah,

830
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: they're both very low, but it's a good gap. Team

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Speaker 2: B is the Ravens. They have almost the same gap.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens are plus sixty five. The Chargers are plus seventy.

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Speaker 3: For the season, and now they've all had their buys.

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Speaker 2: And they're both eight and five. Okay, So Team A

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00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: this time around has scored three hundred and eight points

836
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 2: and allowed to eighty eight. Okay. Team B has scored

837
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: three twenty three and allowed two thirty.

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Speaker 3: Eight thirty eight. That one's probably the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: That one's the Steelers at plus eighty five.

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Speaker 3: Do you have the one Denver? Nah, they wouldn't have

841
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 3: scored that much Chiefs Probably that is Houston. Oh okay,

842
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: how about the Chiefs gaps on.

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00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are only plus twenty.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's surprising.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The Texans are only plus the Texans are

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Speaker 2: plus twenty. All right, Team A three hundred and eight

847
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 2: points scored two hundred and fifty two points allowed. Team

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Speaker 2: that's the Chiefs. That's the Chiefs. Team B three hundred

849
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: and ninety seven points scored two hundred and sixty eight allowed. Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: that's Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think they're number one, and they're number one point

853
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Speaker 2: differential in at least the AFC.

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Speaker 3: Detroit might be one.

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00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: Detroit is number one. Yeah, Philly three and the final

856
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: team in the AFC playoff race right now or was

857
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: in it? You have Denver at three hundred and five

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Speaker 2: points scored two hundred and thirty four All.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's the allowed's good. Yeah, they've had

860
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Speaker 3: a couple of bad games here and there.

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Speaker 2: But the reason I was looking at that, if you

862
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: look at this from that perspective, the Steelers might have

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00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 2: the most complete team in the league.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 2: In the at least in the AFC in terms of

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Speaker 2: offensive scoring and defensive scoring.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to put turnover differential and

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00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: special teams and penalties that are team wide things, they

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Speaker 3: might be number one in the league. Like Detroit's defense, isn't.

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Speaker 2: It's leaking a little bit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's good on paper so far and

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Speaker 3: it's told not but it would worry me going into

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Speaker 3: the into the playoffs. Philly doesn't have a lot of weaknesses.

874
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: Either, although the passing game is getting so.

875
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: This is bonkers too. Mike Sando writes to the Athletic Now,

876
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: buddy of ours, and he did what's a big concern

877
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 3: of all the top teams, and he had a hard

878
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 3: time coming up with the Eagles one. Although we're gonna

879
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: talk more Eagles, they're passing game and some stuff that

880
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: Carolina did to them and Hurts in general would have

881
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: me a little concerned.

882
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 2: But how about this.

883
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 3: This is absolutely nuts to me about the Eagles. The

884
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: Eagles are scoring one point three offensive points in the

885
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: first quarter of games this year. That ranks seven hundred

886
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: and ninety second out of seven hundred and ninety six

887
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: offenses since two thousand.

888
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:36,959
Speaker 2: Wow.

889
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: I mean, like that's unbelievable. I mean, I didn't realize

890
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: that they were that slow as starters.

891
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: On all I'm watching yesterday's game. I'm obviously I'm at

892
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers game that the Eagles are playing Carolina. But

893
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 2: I have Saquon Barkley on my fantasy team, and I start,

894
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this thing. I'm going, why does Saquon

895
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: only have two carries in the first quarter?

896
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, and all they do is run the ball.

897
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 3: All they do is run the ba Yeah. I mean

898
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: they're the only team that runs the ball higher percentage

899
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 3: than the Steelers. Yeah, it's been even higher lately. It's

900
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: crazy because they're hiding hurts a little bit.

901
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I look at it.

902
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: But I agree that the Steelers are one of the

903
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 3: teams with the least weaknesses if you.

904
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: Look at what they've done since Wilson has been at

905
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: averaging twenty eight points a game with Wilson at quarterback,

906
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: that's fifth best in the league in recent years. Yeah, yeah, right,

907
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: But the defense is still one of the top in

908
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: the league in terms of scoring defense.

909
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

910
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not giving they're not giving up a bunch

911
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: of points.

912
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: And you just did we were just talking about point differential,

913
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: I wonder if we just sorted point differential from the

914
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: day Wilson took over. I bet they're right there with

915
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: Detroit and pretty damn good Bills, and they're not. They're

916
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: far off for the year either. I mean, they're like

917
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 3: fifth or six best in the league.

918
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: But you look at that Bill's Yeah, that Bill's team

919
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: scores more points than the Steelers, but they allow more

920
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: points in the Steelers.

921
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 3: They're they're where the Chiefs are kind of the opposite

922
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: Chiefs are.

923
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: The Chiefs aren't scoring a lot of points right now.

924
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: They're starting to lick points up though. Yeah, but they

925
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 3: don't win by wide margin, no, I mean.

926
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: They've given up two hundred and fifty two. Really, if

927
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: you look at the AFC, the team that's the closest

928
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: to the Steelers in terms of not allowing a bunch

929
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: of points and being okay on offense above average is Denver.

930
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, their offense has been surprisingly good. I don't know

931
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: if it's sustainable through a playoff run, but it's been

932
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: pretty good. Yeah, I mean the defense is one of

933
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: the better ones in the league.

934
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: You know, Baltimore is given up over three hundred points

935
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: they're high on both, then they're high on both low. Yeah,

936
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: the Chargers are on the low end.

937
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: Of it, right right.

938
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: You know, Denver Pit's are pretty high on both ends. Yeah,

939
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: Denver and Pittsburgh kind of in the middle. Pittsburgh a

940
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: little bit better offensively and a little bit better. Well,

941
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: Denver's a little bit better. No. Waituh, they're basically even defensively.

942
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 3: Just a side to it. I'm just curious. Does any

943
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 3: AFC team, non playoff team have a positive plus minus

944
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: Molds or Miami? I know Cincinnati is like right at zero.

945
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cincinnati's minus five. That's actually the closest.

946
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 4: Ok.

947
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, so still have a game to go yea tonight.

948
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: But Miami is still minus twenty eight, are they still Yeah,

949
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: indian you'd be closed. Indianapolis is minus thirty one.

950
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, so only the playoff teams have a positive

951
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: point different Yeah, seven out of sixteen.

952
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: And that's you know, some a bunch of these other

953
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 2: teams are you know, the Jets are mine. The Jets

954
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: are minus forty three, three and ten and minus forty nine.

955
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

956
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 2: They just find way salute since he fits that mold too. Yeah,

957
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: they find way eye.

958
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 3: On both ends. I mean they score a ton, andy

959
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: allow it tone, But I mean the fact that you

960
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: have such a bad record and you're hovering around zero

961
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: is not great. Not great.

962
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: No, And if you look at the Eagles, the Eagles

963
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: are elect broken. By the way Eagles are eleven and two,

964
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: it's very close to Pittsburgh. They've scored three forty two,

965
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: they've allowed to thirty four. Okay, so they've scored a

966
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,479
Speaker 2: little bit more and they've allowed basically the same.

967
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: They also shortened games a lot by running so much too,

968
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: like the Steelers, you know what I mean, if you're

969
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: a high pass team, there's more variants, there's more plays run.

970
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: You know, that adds up. Their defense in particular lately

971
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: has been really strong. Wasn't great yesterday. I mean Carolinas

972
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: did some good stuff in that game.

973
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,479
Speaker 2: They could have won that game. Holds onto that Paul.

974
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: They lose that game.

975
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: Bryce Young was the best quarterback in that game. Yeah,

976
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: I mean it doesn't say that, you know, Hurts is junk,

977
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: but they're having some issues.

978
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: But if the Steelers win that, if they have a

979
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: path to victory on Sunday, it's stopping Saquon Barkley and

980
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: not allowing Hurts to run.

981
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say. I was gonna

982
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: kind of say it for later in the week. But

983
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that the Panthers created this blueprint. They

984
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: don't have any good defensive players, but they played Hurts

985
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 3: really smart, like he had an extremely high time to throw.

986
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: It was like three point five. Oh yeah, you can

987
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: sit there all day long. I don't think they blitzed

988
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: very much. They dedicated himself to stop in Saquon and okay,

989
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: you're out side receivers are really scary, but we just

990
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: want you in the pocket because you don't do good

991
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: things late and downs, you know. Yeah, so this Seriers

992
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: are way better equipped to do that than the Panthers.

993
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, their guys will actually get home if you give

994
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: them three and a half seconds.

995
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: Exactly right. I mean you might have a three man

996
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: rush that gets home after a while or for you know, yeah,

997
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: without question, or at least disturb them.

998
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 4: Yeah.

999
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: I just thought that was interesting with the point differentials

1000
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: and the kind of the if you start looking at

1001
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: the grand scheme.

1002
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: Of things in the AFC, it's like, leave enough games

1003
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: to go off of it. And everybody said their teams

1004
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: are who they are at this point, Yeah, pretty much.

1005
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: You know people keep talking about the Chiefs, Well they're

1006
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: getting by, and you know they're going to turn it

1007
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: on in the playoffs, and maybe this is who they are.

1008
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: I think this is who they are. I mean, like

1009
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 3: a team like the Niners might turn it on, probably

1010
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: too little, too late. The Miamis started to turn it on.

1011
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: Until they get to a cold weather game this weekend.

1012
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: And it might be the end of the road here,

1013
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: but at least they're showing their true colors.

1014
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 5: Now.

1015
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you can get in, yeah, but Steelers

1016
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: are a good team.

1017
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 3: They are, they absolutely are.

1018
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: So let's get to a break. That's going to do

1019
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 2: it for hour number one of the Drive here on

1020
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and Now will be back

1021
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Speaker 2: with our number two right after this