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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Now, Hey everybody, welcome to Stradio Lab,

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Speaker 1: the podcast hosted by me and um my coworker George. George,

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Speaker 1: I know, I was thinking, what if we also what

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Speaker 1: if we changed our entire intro today episodes in well

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Speaker 1: interesting to change it implies there's already a set intro

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Speaker 1: that we do every week, rather than kind of surprising

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Speaker 1: ourselves by starting to talk well, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: by saying that there's not a way that we introduced

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Speaker 1: the podcast sort of ignores the fact that, you know,

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Speaker 1: the the decision to not have a structure is a

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Speaker 1: decision and it is a format we do follow. Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: to me, many people don't know this, but often I

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Speaker 1: edited out to what happened every at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: every episode is that you start and then you like,

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Speaker 1: you know, do it differently each time, and then I

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Speaker 1: start dragging you for not doing it right. Would you

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Speaker 1: say that's generally what happens. I would say that is

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Speaker 1: generally what happens. There was a reason episode where I

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Speaker 1: actually have to cut out my part of that because

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Speaker 1: I was being actually too mean and it truly you

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Speaker 1: were like, welcome to our podcast. I was like, what

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Speaker 1: the funk are you talking about? Like, that's not what

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Speaker 1: we do, you know, George, I never ever get mad

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Speaker 1: at you for that, because I see that as a

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Speaker 1: fear based response. I see most of mine are Most

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Speaker 1: of my responses are fear based, and in fact, most

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Speaker 1: of my not just defense offense. You know, everything I do,

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Speaker 1: whether I'm starting it or I'm responding, it's all fear based.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's a scary thing to start a podcast,

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Speaker 1: to to intro based on you know, nothing, just sort

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Speaker 1: of see what comes out. And and so I can

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Speaker 1: see how you know that that pressure can get to

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Speaker 1: you and you want to lash out at someone, and well,

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Speaker 1: it's like starting a fire. We're making something out of

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Speaker 1: nothing when you have nothing to work with. It's like

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Speaker 1: if there's even a nucleus of negativity, suddenly you become

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Speaker 1: you know, it can turn ugly. M m m. It

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Speaker 1: can turn very ugly. But luckily we actually have something

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Speaker 1: that we want to talk about this episode, or at

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Speaker 1: least I do. And I did text you about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I was about to give you the floor.

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Speaker 1: I I said, this is your episode. Sam's episode starts now. Um,

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Speaker 1: I've been working on a little theory that I like

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Speaker 1: to call two thousand ten is back. I think two

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Speaker 1: but the pandemic has both brought us back in time. Uh. Culturally, economically,

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Speaker 1: I think two is back in a huge way. And

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Speaker 1: when I say two thousand ten, I'm speaking specifically of Williamsburg, Brooklyn.

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Speaker 1: It's back. It's people are moving there again. I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying HBO's girls. Culturally, it's back in a huge way.

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Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I'm seeing sort of I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's next, but I think like we're going to go

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Speaker 1: through like a we're gonna redo sort of the Pitchfork era,

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Speaker 1: My mind immediately went to pitch for because I was

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Speaker 1: about to ask you, musically, what do you see? I

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Speaker 1: see because was a huge year for music. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to look it up now. But to me is like,

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Speaker 1: there's Vampire Weekend and there maybe, um, I feel like

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Speaker 1: Drake was at his I know, I'm now actually my

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Speaker 1: examples are actually bad music. In fact, I'm not good,

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Speaker 1: but actually both of those are great. Randomly, I agree,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for saying it. I mean, if we're

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Speaker 1: talking about like that's like Drake's first album. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's like the good stuff. And I'm sorry, I'm googling albums.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know what was what? It was? My beautiful, dark,

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Speaker 1: twisted fantasy and you know what else it was two

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Speaker 1: other huge things, What the Suburbs by Arcade Fire and

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Speaker 1: Body Talk by Robin Oh my god. To me, those

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Speaker 1: three albums defined I mean, okay was a good year.

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Speaker 1: Actually it was when white people were like Kanye no

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Speaker 1: knows what ballet is? That was like guy, I mean

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Speaker 1: the that was not the birth, but maybe the solidification

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Speaker 1: of people doing the like well, actually Kanye doing some

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Speaker 1: really awesome stuff. Well, it was kind of when poptimism No,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if it peaked, but

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Speaker 1: it almost big poptimism. It's interesting. Poptimism used to be

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Speaker 1: make poptimism mainstream is literally why we are screaming into

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Speaker 1: Twitter justice for Sneaker Night exactly right. That's something something

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Speaker 1: I started. By the way, you you literally founded that campaign,

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Speaker 1: a few years later, it's like Justice for Sneaker Knight

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Speaker 1: by Vanessa Hudgens. It's kind of a slippery slope. My point.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing was when it was like there was

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Speaker 1: cool thing to do was make pop, and then pop

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Speaker 1: stars were like, actually I'm going to make a weird

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Speaker 1: indie record. Yeah. Arcade Fire had over thirty seven members.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was truly a full on gay men's

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Speaker 1: choir up there, each one of them playing the triangle.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean two thou in a nutshell

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Speaker 1: is Solange bringing Beyonce to Williamsburg to see like Animal

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Speaker 1: Collective play water. You know. Yeah, that was two ten

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Speaker 1: and that has led us to where we are. And

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Speaker 1: we thought it would be you know, the grass is

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Speaker 1: always greener. You think like this is gonna be really

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Speaker 1: really great and actually it's time for some criticism. Again.

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Speaker 1: Is when people were like, oh I love Best Coast,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, but you know it was good in anyway.

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Speaker 1: My point is, Okay, so twenties, but that's all music.

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Speaker 1: I want to know, because to me, there's a certain

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Speaker 1: vibe which is basically the excitement of Barack Obama being

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Speaker 1: like spread throughout the culture where now everything has possibility.

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Speaker 1: Actually everyone is Obama. That's the the founding principle of

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Speaker 1: Everything was like Katy Perry's firework. Like we're saying, and

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Speaker 1: I kind of think, I mean, but that sentiment is

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Speaker 1: kind of back. Okay, do you think it's back. Do

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Speaker 1: you think it's back or do you think it's almost um, well,

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Speaker 1: like a zombified version of it is back. Well, they

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Speaker 1: said Biden Ari zombified Obama Air, which is already zombified

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Speaker 1: you know, Apple ad Yeah, here's my question for you too.

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Speaker 1: It's a two fold question. Which sonalities or trends are

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Speaker 1: going to make a comeback, in which people that are

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is literally a hard question. George, Like,

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Speaker 1: I have said this for so long. That's that can

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Speaker 1: like resurge in a fun way that could bridge the gap. Okay,

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Speaker 1: agree with that? Sorry? Now looking up movies, Um, okay,

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Speaker 1: uh may the romantic comedy Leap Year. Maybe that'll be

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Speaker 1: that'll get a Criterion release. Um, Black Swan, Winter's Bone. God,

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Speaker 1: I mean there was no going back after that. Um.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I feel. Okay, here's something. Now that I've

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Speaker 1: I am a little afraid of it. I feel a

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think you're very correct to interrogate me,

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Speaker 1: but I, you know, didn't necessarily do all the homework

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Speaker 1: I needed to make this thesis um airtight. Right. Well,

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Speaker 1: just to be clear, I'm only asking follow up questions

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Speaker 1: me to bring back my legalized gay American apparel T

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Speaker 1: still have a legalized gay American apparel T shirt is

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Speaker 1: so iconic. I am deeply jealous. It is, um it listen,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, the movement is um more complicated.

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Speaker 1: We need to start also rebooting different things. I think

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Speaker 1: this is someone who I think I want his opinion

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Speaker 1: on many things, but up there in the top five

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Speaker 1: is his opinion on the year. So um, please welcome

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Speaker 1: do you for? Larry Owens, Larry, let's get down to business.

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Speaker 1: Let's get down. So what do you think of Sam's theory?

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Speaker 1: I think that the I think that it is so

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Speaker 1: valid because it was legitimately a decade ago, like doubters

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Speaker 1: ten years, which in the Internet age is a millennia.

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Speaker 1: Because remember, if we take into account how long it

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Speaker 1: send emails like, it's actually so much time. You're doing

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Speaker 1: the math already. If we take that into account, it's over.

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Speaker 1: If we take that int account, Actually, the entire equation collapses.

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Speaker 1: It's been so long, and it's me. It's back. It's needed,

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Speaker 1: it's needed. So it's needed, it's needed. Tell me of

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Speaker 1: everything we mentioned what spoke to you the most of

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Speaker 1: the music, of the of the films. What is it

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Speaker 1: to you that epitomizes? Well, obviously, you know it kind

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Speaker 1: of you know what kind of bitch I am? So

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Speaker 1: your hits only, and then there's somewhere I'm like, I'm

422
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: gonna listen to the entire album and I don't know

423
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: it hits only, Like a Tovlo is like like I

424
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: won't ever dive in like too is honestly good. And

425
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: that's the thing I'm like wondering if the tipping point

426
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: is coming and I'm gonna be like beating myself up

427
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 1: and then who do you? Every track? Who are you? Like?

428
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: I'll listen every track of hers, no matter what. No

429
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: one's heard of it. But I listened to the album

430
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: pop Girl. Uh. I mean like I wish it were

431
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: more into like a maybe they just had to have

432
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: been around in like whatever Katie Perry drops it, Like

433
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: like I love Gaga, obviously listen to all of Gaga,

434
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: but like when Katie Perry drops something, I'll listen to

435
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: all of that. It's because it's the loyalty. It's not

436
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: even about it's past the music. Is that what you're saying.

437
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: There's an epping point where you champion the pop person

438
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: and then it's like, yeah, because I support you, I

439
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: do that. I vote with my time a lot. I

440
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: will watch I will literally queue up the old ex Affinity.

441
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: They're not paying me, but I'll cue up the Exfinity

442
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: and I'll I'll chrome castes to the TV. They're not

443
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: paying me either, but I would. I would. I'll do

444
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: that and I watch a lot of stuff to get

445
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: my Nielsen's for my for whatever demographic. Another shout out Nielsen.

446
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: I was like, they're not paying me either. But yeah,

447
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: so I get it, just like there are people that

448
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: I love who I'm interested in no matter, no matter

449
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: what I think, that's beautiful and queer, maybe even I

450
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: mean listening to Katy Perry. Is there anything more queer

451
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: than that? Talking of Katy Perry at this juncture, I mean,

452
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: one of the queerest acts you can literally do. To

453
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: say you are still all in on Katy Perry after

454
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: the last two album cycles could not be me. But

455
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: it's not. I mean when I say all in, I

456
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: don't mean I'm all in support. I just feel like

457
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: I'm all in and needing to educate myself always to

458
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 1: do the work. Yeah, you're seeing what she's doing, You're

459
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: seeing where she's going. You're I treat Katy Perry like

460
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: someone I went to high school with, and that's it.

461
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: That's it. If it feels like you could have got

462
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: a high school with the person you're all in, you

463
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: know what, to me was such a betrayal. And when

464
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: it comes to poptimism, I thought the perfect the best

465
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: way poptimism could have gone was Rihanna's career, and then

466
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: she just stopped releasing music and I was like, girl,

467
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's like to go from I mean,

468
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: it's she perfectly and I'm sure it's goes to work

469
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: with the right people, but it's also goes she herself

470
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: has taste. She she every era every year up until

471
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: you could track with Rihanna's music, and then it just

472
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: completely stopped and she left it to the lesser people

473
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: to um continue her legacy. It makes me scared that

474
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: she stopped it. Me too. It actually doesn't make me scared.

475
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: It's very entire banks saying who's scared, I'm scared. That's

476
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: me with Rihanna stopping music. Do you say a good girl?

477
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: It is just it is just she gave us. She

478
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: gave us when we could appreciate it, and she and

479
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: she doesn't have to. She doesn't have to put herself

480
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: smack dab in the middle of y'all. The only time

481
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: she hears from not y'all, I mean y'all as if

482
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,719
Speaker 1: I am na y'all like she The only time she

483
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: hears from y'all is when she gives you pants lipstick

484
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: and wears an outfit to the store. And that's that

485
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: is the perfect relationship to have with the entire world

486
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: who feels as if they own you. And when you

487
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: think about the fact that she literally would release an

488
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: album every six months as many as some divas having

489
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: their entire career. She would do one every six months.

490
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: It would go number one, we would she went, she

491
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: toward like everyone has seen her, who needs to And

492
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: then for this, you know this over consumption generation who

493
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 1: can never be pleased, who eat TikTok like tic TACs,

494
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: She's oh, they eat TikTok like tick taxs, honey, and

495
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: just pop them down and shake the shake the bottle, rattle,

496
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: rattle rattle. You remember that, remember that at that rattle

497
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: rattle rattle, honey. Okay, bitch, that's how he is with

498
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: these tiktoks. You don't rain ha ha ha. It's not

499
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a meal. You eat. You eat the whole box.

500
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: That's what they's do for weight low using the whole

501
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: box of tik taks. That it's not gonna be a meal. Said,

502
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: it's a TikTok okay, so y'all can have fun, Oh

503
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: my god, And really a powerful message from Larry to

504
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: the generation who eats TikTok's like TikTok's rattlet who does

505
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: not remember that rattle rat. I mean gen Z is

506
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: over after that, found dead in a ditch. And that's

507
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: why Rihanna wants never give you an album green Ones,

508
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: which which TikTok I was. I think I liked the

509
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: green never TikTok people. Oh you know what, No, there

510
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: was green, but then there was also light green. Yeah. Yeah,

511
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking of. Light green, a kind of

512
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: a yes, a mint color. I wait, I wanted to ask,

513
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: Oh wait, okay, I want to plug one thing, which

514
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: is I want everyone to go to your computer, go

515
00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: on YouTube dot com and search Rihanna's most emotional formants

516
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: of Love on the brain and then click the first

517
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: result that comes up, because it is something that needs

518
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: to be out there. Oh that's what it's titled. Um

519
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: and she did that, no one cared, and then she

520
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: left forever. And we care, We care so hard, we care,

521
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: We absolutely care. Um. Do the panties are good? I

522
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: was just just I keep no one's paying me, but

523
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: the good I've heard the makeup is good. I mean

524
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: the girlies, the girlies, so I see in the in

525
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: the panties they look good at the panties. Sydney, Washington, Sydney.

526
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: Just I so during pandemic, she was like, I don't

527
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: know how to be flirty, not in person. And I

528
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: was like, well, baby, I gotta you gotta take picks,

529
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: and you gotta send the pick over because that's that

530
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: is action at this point, Like you gotta take a pick,

531
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, otherwise they can't see you or like fill

532
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: your essence. And she was like she she was like,

533
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: I have lingerie and it was when I tell you

534
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: it was a black utilitarian bra I do not Sydney. Yes.

535
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: And then and then she said I have this one

536
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: and it was literally the same brab but with like

537
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of cheetah print. And I said, at

538
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: at and then like literally like a gay assistant. That

539
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: role I've never played on TV, but you know they

540
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: fill up me in box like a gay assistant, you know.

541
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: I sent her over to Robin fenty and and then

542
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: I get these Now she's addicted, so I get fashion shows,

543
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: like I literally like like Stradio Lab, like I literally

544
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 1: just get to see the most gorgeous woman and try

545
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: out lingerie. I love. I mean to have the confidence,

546
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: and I think it is deserved on your part to

547
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: have the confidence to look at Sydney Washington and tell her,

548
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: I'll tell you how to be sexy, the one who

549
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: could literally wear a Greek column or like in Hercules,

550
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: when that one guy was wearing a Greek column that

551
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: was tied to his shoulders. It only works because she's

552
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: lgbt q's like she's allows me into like it works

553
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: because she she wants like, actually, don't do that. Like

554
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: when girls want the experience the gay friend experience, I

555
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: repel and I like, do not fulfill. But she's Lesbiana

556
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: and so it I don't know, it just it affects

557
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: the dynamic. So I'm like, okay, do this, do that,

558
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: And now she has the hottest girlfriend, like her girlfriend

559
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: is literally I was. I was watching her girlfriend on TV,

560
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm obsessed with this person. Now

561
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: she dates that person and I'm so mad under my tutelage,

562
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: under my hitch. Is it an actress? Yes, yes, I

563
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: just go on Instagram. Honey, I'm doing like why am I?

564
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: So okay, okay, okay, we'll look into she's not paying me.

565
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: And I know because I remember there was a girlfriend

566
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: reveal at one point and then then they went right

567
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: back in up a closet. But I do interesting. Um

568
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: what if it was um uh Lily Collins, like Collins

569
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: reveal that Sydney's dating Lily Collins. Oh, I was like,

570
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: would you hitch Lily Collins? I was like, I would

571
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: not hitch Lily Collins. I would be like, I would

572
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: hitch Phil Collins. I would be like, Okay, do this

573
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: do that? Yeah, I know he could use some help. Yeah,

574
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: what's your number one tip for Phil Collins? Phil? I

575
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: feel like I would just say, don't be afraid to

576
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: be yourself. I would say, when you, when you, when

577
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: you want to send that text and you feel like

578
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: it's the craziest thing, just just send it off and

579
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: the person is actually gonna be like, wow, this is

580
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: really sweet. Should we do our first segment? We should?

581
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: I do? I just very quickly want to say, I

582
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: think what you said Larry about channeling the gay best

583
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: friend energy towards queer women rather than straight women is

584
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: actually a very powerful thing that I have noticed happening

585
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: more and more with yourself, with with myself and with

586
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: other gay men. Is it's almost a reaction to um,

587
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: the role you played in high school to be like

588
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna now, I'm gonna objectify myself for the

589
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: sake of women in my own community, which is giving

590
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: at the end. And it's giving. I mean, that's the thing.

591
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: It used to be such a stereotype during like the

592
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: Will and Grace era that gay men and lesbians don't

593
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: get along, and I think it's very very interesting that

594
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: we are now finally in alliance. Yeah, I wonder what changed.

595
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: I think it's actually a ratio. I think it's easier

596
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: to have divisiveness within community because as we know during

597
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: play years of the eighties, like that's actually who was

598
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: there a lot of the time exactly, So we haven't

599
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: seen that um um Oscar bait film yet. But who

600
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: would you cast as like the lesbian at the center,

601
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: and you should cast within community, but knowing it's Hollywood,

602
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: just say who would without? So it's it's the real

603
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: casting of like the lesbian bed nurse. Yes, that's the

604
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: nate title of the film. And then there's the lgbt

605
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: Q alphabet casting, and then there is the Hollywood machine casting. Okay, okay,

606
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: I want it to be like the Oscar winning turn

607
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: for to be the lesbian nurse. We get Wanda Pykes.

608
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: Wait what I was about to say? Want to say.

609
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: I literally my joke was going to be that it

610
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: should be Wanda Sykes and Sandra Bernhard but playing themselves

611
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: and being mean to all the gays out of here.

612
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: I think it would be so fun to have like

613
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: really cool casting of Wanda Pykes and then really horrible

614
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: casting and maybe they get like Tom Holland to play

615
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: like the gay man. Like I think that would be

616
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: so funny. Wait, so you're saying you want to want

617
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: to Syke's performance. That's like kind of you know, Mariah

618
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: Carey and um Monique and precious type like it's a

619
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: stripped down, non comedic Wanda. Oh okay, oh wait, I

620
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: actually love that. Yes, Oscar Bite tragic parn And of

621
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: course the Hollywood casting is literally Emma Stone. Oh my gosh,

622
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: they have so many nominations, those little white girls they

623
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: were so like like Jennival Lords is so many more

624
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: Oscar cominations of Viola Davis. It's actually funny, like it

625
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: literally it's like like it's just a joke with no punchline,

626
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: needs no writing. It's my favorite thing in the world

627
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: to think about. Like, Okay, we have two women sitting

628
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: in the sitting in a room we'll like, we'll call

629
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: one like a better actress. Who who couldn't be? I

630
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: wonder huh yeah you shooting arrow roll high for you?

631
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Speaker 1: Poray for you? And I have to say, Emma Stone

632
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Speaker 1: has shot a lot out of arrows and they have

633
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Speaker 1: gone high. Um, we should do our seg we should

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Speaker 1: we should? Um. I I wanted to come up with

635
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Speaker 1: the title for the movie, but but I'll keep thinking

636
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Speaker 1: on it. The bed Nurse, The bed Nurse, Wonder Sex Larry.

637
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

638
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: we gauge your familiarity with and complicity in straight culture

639
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: by just shooting at you a series of rapid fire

640
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: um questions where you choose one thing or the other

641
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: thing and you can interpret it whichever way you want.

642
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: But the one rule is you can't ask any follow

643
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: up questions because if you do, we will yell at you.

644
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: Damn take it away, Okay, Larry, first cow say the

645
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Speaker 1: last dance or Malcolm in the middle, Malcolm l LB

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Speaker 1: or l L cool J. I knew it was gonna

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Speaker 1: be cool J cool J. Speaker Box, Cold Place, clocks

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Speaker 1: or songs from box looks It's clocks, The Russian from

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Speaker 1: Sex in the City or President Vladimir Putin. It's a

650
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: Thai final answer, Okay, Sarah Michelle Geller or the magical

651
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: duo Penn and Teller. Hm, it's gotta be Geller. Auto

652
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Speaker 1: fiction or auto erotic asphixiation. I knew it. It's gonna

653
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Speaker 1: be Um, It's gonna be auto fiction of course, Okay,

654
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: top shaming, bottom bullying or radical verse acceptance shaming. And finally,

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Speaker 1: Larry Nancy Myers, Nancy Pelosi or Nancy used as a

656
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: gay slur Nancy Botwin. Oh, and that is the correct answer.

657
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: Weeds twenty ten show We're Back to Baby, We are

658
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Speaker 1: back Baby? Who aired? We needs Showtime? Showtime? Yeah? Yeah,

659
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: the best network for women powered vehicles that don't do well.

660
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Speaker 1: We did well, right, we did well, but it was

661
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Speaker 1: like a million years. Show type is like the show

662
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Speaker 1: type is like the network that tried to finally give

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Speaker 1: cares and dunce the show and then it canceled it

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Speaker 1: after one season. Great Gods of California, Southern California, Yes,

665
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Speaker 1: the Great Gods of Southern California on being a god.

666
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Speaker 1: I'm becoming a guy in Central Florida, in Southern California

667
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: in southern California, You're much like what was what was

668
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: Channel Law was twelve or thirteen. I was on the

669
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: hills of change. And I'll say this, I I I

670
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: do think ultimately the more we talked about the pop

671
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: cultural things that happened, I'm like, it was actually not

672
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: a good year. It was like like a better year

673
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: than it was a turning point, which is trying to

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Speaker 1: think what matches, and I think it was more of

675
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: the original thesis was like this is the impetus for

676
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: what we will. We know that it's not going to

677
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: be We know that is not going to log the

678
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: year that everything was good, but it'll be the start.

679
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be those those really there's there's you know, yeah, Okay,

680
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: well I think so I'm resold, I'm glad and the

681
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: good comes with the bad. Absolutely. I'm like, I'm not

682
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: sure what you mean, but I just mean, like, not

683
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: everything is going to be good, just like not everything

684
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: inteen was good. That's true. There's always gonna be flopsy. Well.

685
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: I was thinking potentially we could get into our topic, which, um,

686
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, we do this podcast differently every single time.

687
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes will you know, talk about the topic before. Sometimes

688
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: you know we're on we're getting surprised and told right

689
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: on the podcast. And Larry, you know, being someone who

690
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: knows us well, you said, you know, I trust you

691
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: guys can handle this in the moment. Let's do it live.

692
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: I I want to see the looks on your faces. Um, So, Larry,

693
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: I would love if you could present us in whatever

694
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: way you would like with your topic. Um, my topic

695
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: is bad acting. I feel like bad acting is straight culture.

696
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: I think that, uh, I think that if we've ever

697
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: seen a bad performance by a non straight person, it

698
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: is the influence of a straight person making them bad.

699
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that a woman or a queer person

700
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: can inherent can inherently embody feeling and be bad. It

701
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: is the construct of the director, the eye of the DP,

702
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: the balking of the financiers that make things bad acting wise,

703
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: and so I don't have any examples to name, but

704
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you can ruminate on performances that we

705
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: can pick apart and always at the root straight. And

706
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: just to clarify, for the take of this argument, women

707
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: count as queer yes yes, and and women straight. It's

708
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: straight because women can be straight. I forget. Yeah, it's

709
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: theoretically but exactly, but in conventional accepted parlance, and especially

710
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, all women kiss yes, which is queer, which

711
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: is queer, and all women are wounded, which is queer,

712
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: which which they stole from us. So to me, a

713
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: bad acting from a straight person, I'm thinking, I'm thinking

714
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: Rami Malick, I'm thinking Jared Letto. I am thinking, hmm,

715
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 1: Scarlett jon I think that she falls unto straight. Yeah,

716
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, the only straight woman is Scarlett Johansson. Pure.

717
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: I think this is a very funny theory because there

718
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: is also the flip side. But okay, I'm gonna say

719
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: two things. I feel like, Um, I feel like when

720
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: you see a gay person act badly, like it breaks

721
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: your heart because it's like you have all the tools

722
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: and and I think the reason that they are doing

723
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: bad acting is internalized homophobia. The contorted mind. Yes, the

724
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: contorted mind towards straightness a thousand per cent. I mean

725
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: Neil Patrick Harris, Oh my god, And can we talk

726
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: about it? You must talk about internalized homophobia. His his

727
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: relationship to his almost axuality has always been very confusing,

728
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: and you can see it starting from doogie howser, I

729
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean he was a conversion therapist in

730
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: that show, so I yes, no, Sam, go ahead, you

731
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: had one more point? Uh no. Mostly it was like

732
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: gays can be bad at acting, but point to the

733
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: cause of that is the it'll be bad, but like

734
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 1: there will be so much conversation to be had, like

735
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: like it would like you'll still first of all, it's

736
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: going to be done with spirit, like it literally will

737
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: never be bland, as if that's actually what we want,

738
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: Like when gay people go bland, it's literally survival. And

739
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: then when we're left her own devices, we go off.

740
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: But like life, if we're going to interpret it on

741
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: a fake scale, is crazy, So like life actually is crazy.

742
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: We pretend that, like we aren't literally a flesh wound

743
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: walking through the life, like cut ripped from our mother,

744
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: like never knowing our fathers really even if they live

745
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: in the same house, Like this is actually who we are.

746
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: Like there's like mass disease in the street, like it's

747
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: like record unemployment, like such a nasty government. These are

748
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: what we call high stakes. And then we step into

749
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: the world of the imagination and we're we're expected to

750
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: comport and contort ourselves to this rigid acceptability that was

751
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: made by like literally Louis b. Mayor like like literally

752
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: so it's like the deadest oldest people, like you can imagine,

753
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: But it is exactly what you're saying is that the

754
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: half of the population is attempting to is is attempting

755
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: to come to terms with the fact that they came

756
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: from their mother and don't know the father. And then

757
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: the other half is just father is trying to be actors.

758
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: How dare you be a father and also want to act?

759
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: It's so dumb you try relating to your child. First

760
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: start there, sir, hard as sir hard are sir? Yeah,

761
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: I say, sir with the hard ar sir, start there. So, so, Larry,

762
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: what do you think is the quintessential straight performance? I think? Um,

763
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: I think I think that the straightest performances that people

764
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: try to emulate actually like come from like queer people,

765
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: Like we know that Brando was dipping in doing it,

766
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: like we know that everyone in old Hollywood was dipping

767
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: in doing it, and so like they were acting something

768
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: that then in the hands of the wrong people. Following

769
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: like the demise of the acting studio system in like

770
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Speaker 1: the late seven when we stopped really having acting schools,

771
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: and then you learned acting from a college or university. Gag,

772
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: who is on? Who is the who is our tenure?

773
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: Professors at colleges and universities, straight people telling young people

774
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: how to act. It's insane. It's so gross, and this

775
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: is just this is the cumulative damage. Imagine someone with

776
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: tenure teaching you how to act. It is actually like

777
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: like it's I just I I'm I'm stammering because I

778
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: think you're actually I'm having a difficult time keeping up

779
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: almost because every breath is a good point. I'm incensed.

780
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: So to me, what comes to mind as a quintessential

781
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: straight performance is actually maybe even a good performance, but

782
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: it is still the quintessential straight performance. I am thinking

783
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks for his Gump. I was gonna say, al

784
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: Pacino scent of a woman. WHOA Yeah, that's it, yeah, right,

785
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: like Alpaccino incent of a woman is what is what

786
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: straight people acting is. But it is a it is

787
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: a good It's tough because I don't want to I mean,

788
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: it is good. He's a good actor. Yeah, because he's like,

789
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: it's it's queer. It's the beginning of it by being

790
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: original by being Alpaccino, and the original not the carbon copy.

791
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: Queer Okay, it's on the queer side of straight by

792
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: being the first. So alpac you know, is ours Scarlett?

793
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: We traded Scarlett Johansson. Yeah, like things that get copied

794
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: then become straight. Okay, And now Forrest Gum tell me

795
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: more there do you? What do you think about that performance?

796
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just thinking of straight guys

797
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: I like, and I was like, it's like Tom is

798
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: a good guy. Yeah, and I like Rita. So I

799
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: was just like, I just wanted to give you He's

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00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: and honestly, Chet is to of mine White Boys Summer.

801
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: That's that because that was fine. That was fun for me.

802
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: That video actually brings up a good point that, you know,

803
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: a lot of our street topics I feel like get

804
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: to and that is that Hollywood is so based in

805
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: who your parents are, and and so that is also

806
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 1: why bad acting is straight because it is the nuclear family.

807
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: It is it is the nuclear family. Well what are

808
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: you doing when acting? If not? Kind of um interpreted

809
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: it basically projecting a relationship with your parents onto the

810
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: rest of the world. So if that's a healthy relationship,

811
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: you get Emily in Paris. Yeah, but like but like

812
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: we're joking, but this actually it gets really deep for

813
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: me because like that is true, like the people evaluating,

814
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: So the casting directors are working for the people at

815
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: the top who like get to embody or encouraged to

816
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: from like forever to embody this ideal from like the

817
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: mid twentieth century, the nuclear family, American dream thing. And

818
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: then so anything that's passing through the system, even if

819
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: it's an opposition to that, even if a story not

820
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: about that, that must then encapsulate the things that oppositely

821
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 1: mirror that nuclear experience. And then off with Sam was saying,

822
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: is that, yeah, it takes straight people to make babies,

823
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: and so if those babies and get jobs in Hollywood,

824
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: it's straight and it's gross. So a smart point. I mean,

825
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: when thinking about procreating, you should ask yourself, what if

826
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: this child goes into acting? What if for me, if

827
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm every kid, they are an actor until like proven

828
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: not sure, It's like are you you really want to

829
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: do soccer? Okay, let's see it. There's also something about,

830
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: like I don't know how to fully say this, there's

831
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: something like evil about the straight man actor because they

832
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: like know that, like that's like very gay space, yes, that,

833
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: And so they get like obsessed over by like both

834
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: the women and the gay men in the scene, and

835
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: they kind of get to do like very little and

836
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: be adored by their microcosmic power. We all know the

837
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: story of the jock co auditions for the play, and

838
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: it's playing fucking Danny Zuko and fucking Harold Hill, when

839
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: the Doughey fagette has been loyally genuflecting at the altar

840
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: of both stagecraft and stage shop past over the nerve

841
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: of being a straight man and and wanting to pretend

842
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: like you don't have to. That's literally visus, that is

843
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: see us, this space was this space you are now

844
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: controlling the space of imagination. Colonized imagination. It's colonized imagination

845
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: in the craziest sense. I like literally, like again it's

846
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: all jokes and stuff. But as I sit here in

847
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: my quarantine and think of a future on film and

848
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: how I see myself when I look in the mirror,

849
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: and then how I'm evaluating from experience how an audience

850
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 1: sees me through that same glass, there's so much left out.

851
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm literally leaving parts of myself out that

852
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:50,280
Speaker 1: are complex so that I can fit. Which it's okay,

853
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm happy to compromise towards my dreams, but it hurts,

854
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 1: like what if what if I could just play like

855
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: anything as myself without thought of that paradigm. Yeah, and

856
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: it's like for you to leave out pieces of yourself,

857
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: while then Jared Letto not only doesn't have to leave

858
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: out parts of itself, but actually there's so much emptiness

859
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: now that he has to steal parts from other people.

860
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: It's like Jared Letto is actually kind of merely a

861
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 1: skeleton and he's stealing flesh from other people in order

862
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 1: to make himself into a full human being in order

863
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: to then become a Frankenstein monster and give a performance

864
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: and then get an oscar. It's crazy. I literally need

865
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: no inspiration. I felt it. Trust I can, I can?

866
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: I I felt it. I could get there, you know. Yeah. Meanwhile,

867
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: like you said earlier, it's like the amount of gay

868
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: assistant roles. We must talk about the amount of gay

869
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: assistant roles. It's kind of all we talked about, we

870
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: talked about We've mentioned it many times, but it is

871
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: actually crazy where it's like men in so much and

872
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: It's like, what is this world like? You don't have

873
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: an agenda to like mention it in the minute it

874
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: comes up in conversation. Because it is the colonized space

875
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: of imagination. I can only imagine a gay person picking

876
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: after me, attending to me, being secondary to me. It's like,

877
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: but and then we then we have it. We don't

878
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: say that we don't have it, you know what I mean,

879
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: But we have it on our roster. It's here, the

880
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: box is checked, but it is it's the box is

881
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: checked and we're stand standing inside of it. I can't

882
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: get these roles because to be a gay assistant to

883
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: a non queer person, I was about to say, you

884
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: have to be insubordinate. You have to read us and

885
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: subported it to the main because remember she's It doesn't

886
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: matter what the scene is, even if it's a scene

887
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: where the gay assistant has a little bit of a status,

888
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: you know for a second because of some crazy thing

889
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: they're lording over their boss because she's an act apt sorry,

890
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,479
Speaker 1: So like, even if you play that one scene like that,

891
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: when they see that you have agency, the only way

892
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 1: you can do it is if you actually do voice over.

893
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: In Troy savan Is the one playing the gay assistant. Literally,

894
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: Troy Troy is is Oh my god, just a beautiful

895
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: factory made person in the in the best way I

896
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: feel like you feel like, is he they sweet? Yeah? Yeah, no,

897
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: Troy Troy. That factory you know, has since shut down

898
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: after they did not negotiate their union contract. Oh my god.

899
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: So I do think though, what you're saying is I

900
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: think to go back to the Sydney thing and to

901
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: go back to gay men as paying a debt a

902
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: generation late becoming caretakers to queer women. I do think

903
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: everyone should unionize and only play gay assistance if they

904
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: are assistants to lesbians. Yeah, there we go, and we

905
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: solved it. Like that Science Field delivered just hands off

906
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: rich episode. It really was. It's a rich episode, Larry.

907
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm just it truly, the density of your words, and

908
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: it's it's so much, it's like it's just not a thing.

909
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: And um, I appreciate everyone just like smiling and nodding

910
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: and going along with the string of pearls of non sequiturs.

911
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: But they were non sequiturs. I think everyonthing was very

912
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: well conceptualized. And if I was smiling and nodding, it

913
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: was because I wanted to hear more rather than um.

914
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: But in as I am doing now, you know, when

915
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: I think about it, like I really thought that it

916
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: was a funny thing. I thought that we could like

917
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: poke fun at all, like not never really poked fund

918
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: and straightnesst. But then if we could turn and sort

919
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: of like Revere, when women are great and oftentimes like

920
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: an interview, they'll be like I was left alone. I

921
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: had a great director. And then when our faves are

922
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: girlies because we're we have the what is it the

923
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: high school fread vitality where we're like, you know, or

924
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: high school teacher, she's my English teacher. We love the

925
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: other generation of actress. But then when they're bad sometimes

926
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: it comes out that they were having a fucking horrible

927
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: guy that is directly related to that influence. So I

928
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 1: I thought it could be light and chipper as well.

929
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: But you're so right because and then those women get

930
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: punished for that bad director because we turn on them. Oh, oh,

931
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: meme them down. Don't you slip, don't you slip because

932
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 1: you'll I mean, everyone thinks it's like everyone. It used

933
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: to be like, Oh, I made four pictures last year.

934
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: One of them was a gross flop. But then you know,

935
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: the next one comes out and it's it's Easter paray

936
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: make film, maybe real film. Uh, it's so like it's

937
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: just over. But now, honey, don't you dare do something

938
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: funny in that script because you're the meme, the nerve, okay,

939
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: the nerve of making fun of Nicole Kidman's wigs. I

940
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: was just I was going to mention the Coole Kidman's wigs,

941
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: the nerve to be a twenty three year old barista

942
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: and be posting my feel when I'm Nicole Kidman's wig.

943
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: Fuck you. Yeah, this is a side quest, but yeah,

944
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: we've talked about it before. But like the gay Twitter

945
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: factory is actually has unionized and is running very smoothly

946
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: and producing some real corrap. It is crazy how many

947
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: resources they are wasting and polluting the air. It's an

948
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 1: environmental disaster. It's it's it's a human rights disaster for many.

949
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: And you thought milk was bad, wait to hear about

950
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: almond milk. Please. You know it takes a gallon per proceed,

951
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: per nut, takes a gallant per nut, and we really

952
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: want that to be the front facing face of almond milks. Right, Well, gay.

953
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: Twitter is the almond milk of intellectual discourse. It truly

954
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: pains me. Um, I get like of all, like how

955
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: did Trump get x Tube and not Twitter? Like I'm

956
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: like so much, Like I'm so mad, like take that away,

957
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: like taking a like no, we love freedom of speech.

958
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 1: But then I think that everyone can, you know, take

959
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: their journalism over to wh they have fact checkers, like

960
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: there was I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

961
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: I I appreciate, I appreciate what do I appreciate about Twitter?

962
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate, Um, you can. It's actually beautiful that you

963
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: can't think of what you appreciate about Twitter, And I think, yeah,

964
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: it's so wide. Actually it's like innumerable. It's given us

965
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: so much because it's exhausting for me just because like

966
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: an award show happens, and then it's it's just crazy.

967
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: It's exhausting to watch the cycle, just like the what

968
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: is it now? It's what is it? Forty eight hours?

969
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: Seventy two hours? Like something can an event can trend,

970
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, and then the tyranny of the trending topic,

971
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: the tyranny of the trending topic. And I found myself

972
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: as I was on it more phrasing my words to

973
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: punch through the algorithm, which Larry, that's thinking like a computer.

974
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: Step away, Han, step away Han. We actually don't actually would.

975
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like everybody else. That was

976
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: the fun of being in chorus, you know as a kid,

977
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: was like everyone's voice is different, like you know, like

978
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: maybe mine is too, Like like, don't I have to

979
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: homogenize when I go onto the camera and simplify and

980
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: and reach far, you know what I mean, for the

981
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: good of the republic. But I don't have to do

982
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: that with my words and my point with the free

983
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: with what you give her free to Jack Dorsey, you

984
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: can actually have some personality there. You can have some flair.

985
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: It's it's been fun. It's been fun to think things

986
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: and just like save them for myself, you know, knowing

987
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: and you know, being really hopeful, you know, for just

988
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: like when those thoughts can mature and like share them

989
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: with people. And if I honestly, if it's you and

990
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: you're and you hit it and you are crushing Twitter

991
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: and your mental health is good, like I laugh at

992
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: your stuff, I like and I retweet it, you know

993
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I mean, if you shoot an

994
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: arrow and it goes real high A right for you

995
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: for me? Right, all right for me? No, No, the

996
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: means were good. Yes, it was a good set of memes.

997
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: It was the it was the I like that one

998
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: because because no one has to write, you just put

999
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: two pictures up and then I can just plink. It's

1000
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: very accessible. It's always nice when the joke is literally,

1001
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 1: here's a film, but it's bringing us back to Vaudeville's

1002
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: exactly Audeville, which is what we need. Y'all said, it's

1003
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: I say that, it's it's it's actually, Um, we're coming

1004
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: out of the depression and bod is gonna give way

1005
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: to burlesque. So it's gonna go silly to sexy and

1006
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: then to the birth of the American musical theater. Well

1007
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: it's cabaret, but not the last scene. Oh my god, Sam,

1008
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: I think we should do our final segment, okay, um, Larry,

1009
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 1: our final segment of shout outs. In the grand traditional culture,

1010
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: we give a radio shout out to something we enjoy,

1011
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: sort of in the style of it's two thousand one

1012
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: in your in Times Square at t r L shouting

1013
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: out to your squad back home, Um and Uh, George,

1014
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: do you have Yeah, I can go. I can go.

1015
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: This is an honor of Larry's topic too. I I

1016
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: thought of it as we were talking. Okay, what's up, listeners?

1017
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,919
Speaker 1: I want to give a quick and sexy shout out

1018
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: to Carrie Coon's performance in The Nest. Now that this

1019
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: is a film I have not watched, but I have

1020
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: heard so much about Carrie Coon's performance that the things

1021
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm imagining you could not believe. I am hoping that I,

1022
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: in fact go to sleep and dream of The Nest

1023
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: and my subconscious makes it up for me, just like

1024
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: it did for the film. Um, what was it called

1025
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: Portrait of a Woman? Piece of the Woman? I had

1026
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 1: a dream where I watched the entirety of features of

1027
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: a woman and my subconscious made it up and it

1028
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: was honestly pretty good. I hope that it does the

1029
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 1: same for The Nest. That character's performances even better than

1030
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: the actual movie. Um, and I think she was snuff

1031
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: for an Oscar, despite the fact that I've never seen it.

1032
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: Go Carrie Coon. Okay. I have one that's also semi

1033
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: related to our conversation, Um, what's up, listeners? I want

1034
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: to give a huge shout out to tweets that make

1035
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: no sense to me. When I see a tweet that

1036
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: is absolutely full of words that I cannot comprehend, I

1037
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: celebrate that because I say, Wow, it turns out I

1038
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: have my own life in a beautiful way. Or this

1039
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: topic that everyone's piste about for the next four hours

1040
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with me and doesn't affect me.

1041
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: I can either research it and figure out what it

1042
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: all means, or I can just say, oh, heck, who cares.

1043
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: It's not about something I care about. It's probably about

1044
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: something stupid, like all that stuff. There's so much stuff

1045
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: that everyone's always talking about, and when I don't know it,

1046
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: I feel blessed. I love you, tweets. I don't understand. Okay, Larry,

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Speaker 1: whenever you are ready. Okay, Hey, what's up everybody out? Damn,

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Speaker 1: my name's Larry. Oh but I want to give a

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Speaker 1: huge shout out to is Suburbia. I know I gave

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01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: you so much flak for the big city with all

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01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: of my dreams of all those venues and stages and

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01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: friends and parties. Guess what, none of that's happening. So

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Speaker 1: I have fled to you, Suburbia. I am loving your

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Speaker 1: empty streets, your parks. I'm loving your accessibility, and I'm

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01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: loving the strip malls. I'm loving being remote. I thank you,

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Speaker 1: I celebrate you. Thank you for being here when I

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01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 1: needed you most. And I'm so so sorry that I

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: talked so much shit about you. To beat an overpriced

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Speaker 1: shoebox of a hell hole, that's only fun because I'm

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Speaker 1: doing other stuff. God, I love this. I love a

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01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 1: suburban Larry Era. I love Incoming, I mean two thousand

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Speaker 1: tens back the suburbs. And also, I just want to

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 1: say Chipotle tastes ten times better in a suburb. I

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01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 1: agree they changed the recipe during pan. I do think

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01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: chain restaurants do are better in the suburbs. They are

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01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: way better. It's insane like it to go to a

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Speaker 1: chain restaurant like in Times Square. Everything is poisoned to

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01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: go to that same restaurant in let's say, a suburb

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Speaker 1: of Philadelphia. I mean, please, it's yeah. Oh well, Larry,

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Speaker 1: this has been a pure delight. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for doing the pod. Thank you so Finn, Larry, so

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Speaker 1: much love for you. It really I'm so happy we

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Speaker 1: have this excuse to one another. And it was really

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Speaker 1: lovely more soon, more soon, and come back to New York. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll be there, Okay,