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Speaker 1: We've got lineups, Rennix, t Dynamite, Uh, the Crown Jewels Show.
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Speaker 1: We'll get into raw here in the second segment, n
Speaker 1: x t is Tonight, we have Pretty Deadly against Dress
Speaker 1: and No Fe and Mollike Blade for the tag team titles.
Speaker 1: We have the women's titles. Katana Chance and Caden Carter
Speaker 1: versus Zoe Stark and Nikita Lyons. Lash Legend will be
Speaker 1: facing shots. The new Schism member will be revealed. Boy,
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for that one. Holy smokes, I can't wait.
Speaker 1: And that's it fallout from Halloween Havoc. That's what we
Speaker 1: got for tonight. For the Dynamite Show Wednesday, John mox
Speaker 1: Ley defends the a e W title against Penta. For
Speaker 1: those of you that are like what when why bro?
Speaker 1: Your guests as good as mine. They did not announce
Speaker 1: it on Rampage, So if you missed Rampage, you did
Speaker 1: not miss the announcement. It's just happening. I guess they
Speaker 1: announced it, but they didn't shoot an angle or anything
Speaker 1: like that. It's just it's title match tomorrow Penton Moxley,
Speaker 1: So there you go. FTR will be facing Swerve in
Speaker 1: Our Glory for the number one contender ship to the
Speaker 1: a W Tag team titles. Rio faces Jamie Hayder, Chris Jericho,
Speaker 1: and Daniel Garcia versus Claudio and Wheeler Utah, Brian Danielson
Speaker 1: faces Sammy Gavara and m JF. We'll be doing a
Speaker 1: promo that is Wednesday's Dynamite and the Battle ottoman Osaka
Speaker 1: is is interesting because that's coming up here in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and it lists Carl Anderson and Hikolo
Speaker 1: for the never open Weight title, even though Carl Anderson
Speaker 1: is not going to be there and uh o'bari says
Speaker 1: you should be there, He's not gonna be there, so
Speaker 1: that's gonna be weird. But also announced for the show
Speaker 1: is FTR. F TR has been announced for that show
Speaker 1: and FTR is also going to be defending the Triple
Speaker 1: A titles in December, So I wonder what all of
Speaker 1: this means. Honestly, Honestly, to me, this FTR versus Serving
Speaker 1: Our Glory match is actually the most interesting match over
Speaker 1: the next couple of days because I can't figure out
Speaker 1: how to make any of this work. Because if Keith
Speaker 1: Lee and Swerve win, then we will have Keith Lee
Speaker 1: and Swerve versus the Acclaimed three times in the span
Speaker 1: of a couple of months, and the exact same match
Speaker 1: on two consecutive pay per views, which I don't think
Speaker 1: it's ever happened in a W. And if FTR wins,
Speaker 1: then you have two options, which is beat the acclaimed,
Speaker 1: which seems like a horrible idea right now, or the
Speaker 1: Acclaimed beat FTR in this a W tag team title match,
Speaker 1: which I guess could happen. I mean, there's no reason
Speaker 1: it couldn't happen. But you know, I have FDR wins.
Speaker 1: They're they're also going on. I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on here. Who do you
Speaker 1: think is gonna win this match? And what are they doing? Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Uh, it's going to
Speaker 1: be the acclaimed. Are you paying attention to anything that
Speaker 1: I said? No, not really at all. What are you doing? Dude?
Speaker 1: You're worse than Vinny Just well, you get to talking,
Speaker 1: and it's really easy to tune you out, to be honest.
Speaker 1: What a great co host, especially when you're going in
Speaker 1: three different directions. Oh now, I'm not going in three
Speaker 1: different directions. I gave options for FDR and uh and
Speaker 1: uh whatever here swerve and all the Usually you talk
Speaker 1: down to us and treat us like sidekicks. And now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you need a little bit of help,
Speaker 1: and now I don't need help. I was giving an
Speaker 1: option to give your opinion, and you're paying attention. Fine
Speaker 1: forgetting I'll keep going the whole thing. When it comes
Speaker 1: to like FDR at some point is going to have
Speaker 1: all the belts. At some point, FTR is going to
Speaker 1: defeat the acclaim. The acclaim don't necessarily need the belts.
Speaker 1: They are a hot act right now. You have to
Speaker 1: be careful with that. But the bottom line is when
Speaker 1: FTR comes out, they get monster responses and they should
Speaker 1: have had those belts in my opinion, long before. Now.
Speaker 1: They have all of the other titles. They're the ones
Speaker 1: traveling to Japan. This doesn't make any sense for them
Speaker 1: not to have them. So I don't get that at all.
Speaker 1: I really I don't understand how they come to the
Speaker 1: conclusion to make some of these matches. This is like
Speaker 1: making Pentagon and Moxley. Not that I don't want to
Speaker 1: see that match. That match is awesome on paper, except
Speaker 1: for why is it a title match? Why is MJF
Speaker 1: not figured in somehow upset about this or somehow happy
Speaker 1: and like going like this over the fact that Moxley
Speaker 1: is gonna try to kill himself again before he faces Pentagon.
Speaker 1: It's like they had a match that they just decided, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: we're a little bit of trouble right now. There's all
Speaker 1: the sports going on, we're not really hot, we have
Speaker 1: all this other nonsense. We're gonna have a title match,
Speaker 1: but you have a title match coming up. I just
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I don't get it. I've never
Speaker 1: with FTR and how they've been used. I have not
Speaker 1: understood it at all of them. And word Low frankly
Speaker 1: for that matter, another guy holding onto a belt that is,
Speaker 1: you know, slowly getting devalued right now. So I don't
Speaker 1: get it. I just think the bottom line is I
Speaker 1: don't care, you know, serving our glory. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's going to win. I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: the f T I think it's gonna be FDR, and
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be the Acclaimed. But I
Speaker 1: don't know how you again, I don't know how you decline,
Speaker 1: how you deny FTR those titles, especially when their whole
Speaker 1: thing is they are the belt hunters and they are
Speaker 1: the ones going around the world to defend titles. And
Speaker 1: to put themselves out there just doesn't make any sense
Speaker 1: for it not to be them. Bills have re help
Speaker 1: versus Jamie Hayter, Jerick and Daniel Garcia versus Claudio and Wheeler, Utah,
Speaker 1: Ryan Danielson versus Sammy Gavara and a promo by m
Speaker 1: j F. Yeah, you ran through that. We got a
Speaker 1: promo with m JF. They need to do something where
Speaker 1: there's some tension between m JF and John Moxley, and
Speaker 1: that's what people want to tune into, you know, instead
Speaker 1: of having matches that again, man, it's great to have
Speaker 1: mom there. People want to tune in and have some
Speaker 1: sort of drama between those two. That's your tension back
Speaker 1: and I'm on with more Observer Live. Well, we're back
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Speaker 1: Like Semper Vid also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. Thank
Speaker 1: you getting me. What is he talking about? Hey, let's
Speaker 1: we gotta talk about Raw. What are you doing over there?
Speaker 1: What what are you doing back there? Pay attention? Dude?
Speaker 1: You want to the Raw report? No? Why did you
Speaker 1: watch it? Yeah? But it wasn't very good. Let's be
Speaker 1: honest here. It was not a good show. It was
Speaker 1: very labor intensive to get through. At times, it was
Speaker 1: much worse. Last it was much worse, much worse. I
Speaker 1: didn't know what I didn't almost fall asleep one time
Speaker 1: this week. You know, Convoys right, I hate to say,
Speaker 1: Brian Convoys right. I know he's right there, he's he's
Speaker 1: right now, jumping up and down. He's pointing his finger
Speaker 1: at you, and I think he may actually be correct,
Speaker 1: because here we are back to stupid comedy again. You
Speaker 1: got Carl Anderson and Doc Allos out there. Doc calls
Speaker 1: both of them putting nice on their on their cajones.
Speaker 1: You know, come on, you know the only thing I
Speaker 1: should remember, the only thing. See, any time you think
Speaker 1: something is you know, it doesn't bother you at all,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it becomes well, it's mid Card
Speaker 1: or it's the Good Brothers. What do you expect? You know,
Speaker 1: people say that to you, you continue to freak out.
Speaker 1: Bro Hold on a second, did you watch what were
Speaker 1: those shows? And The Good Brothers and Rocky did? I
Speaker 1: probably should know because Rocky is coming on the show today.
Speaker 1: My god, what are those things? It's the Good Brothers.
Speaker 1: They did comedy involving putting ice on their testicles after
Speaker 1: someone kicked him in the nuts. That that is what
Speaker 1: sent you over the edge. That didn't send me over
Speaker 1: the edge again talking shopmania, that's yes. Didn't you also, like,
Speaker 1: didn't you make an appearance on one of those? I
Speaker 1: think I did? Actually, what a good brother you are? Yeah,
Speaker 1: First says it was the worst show ever. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I can't force anybody to do anything sort of the
Speaker 1: problems I've encountered in life. But man, I'd like to
Speaker 1: make all of you go back six months and let's
Speaker 1: just start watching six months old ros again and then
Speaker 1: get back to me. I'd like to make everybody go
Speaker 1: back and watch October and November n x T two
Speaker 1: point oh and then get back to me. Nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Oh god, but this show is noticeably better.
Speaker 1: It's still just a show. Why should they do that, Brian?
Speaker 1: No one says n x T has improved anyway. You're
Speaker 1: the only guy who wants to watch it, and everybody
Speaker 1: makes fun of you for it. That's true. That is true.
Speaker 1: And even DJ was like, you know what, they did
Speaker 1: bring Nicky Cross back to just being her old gimmick again.
Speaker 1: They did take the superhero costume off of her at
Speaker 1: the stupid mask and now she's a rold character. You
Speaker 1: know that is better than when she was almost a
Speaker 1: superhero when she was old. Nikki a s h which
Speaker 1: was the stupidest name since silver Lining in that guitar
Speaker 1: cloud last night, with her coming back to being crazy,
Speaker 1: asked Nicky Cross which she should be and listen, sanity
Speaker 1: Nikki is what we need. It opened up with the
Speaker 1: usual deal, a long promo leading to a long match.
Speaker 1: But you know what, it's a good match. Can tell
Speaker 1: me Finnell and Carl Anderson wasn't good And let me
Speaker 1: tell you the end of this show. The end of
Speaker 1: this match was flat out great. I don't care what
Speaker 1: anybody says. If you don't like it, do your own show.
Speaker 1: So Brian wants to be manhandled by women Dominic, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, to manhandled by women. Remember when Dominic
Speaker 1: was gonna turn heal and everyone was like, oh, just
Speaker 1: get rid of the guy, Like it's not gonna help.
Speaker 1: There's nothing you to do with Dominic. Bro he's miles
Speaker 1: better as a hell, he's miles better as the guy
Speaker 1: who thinks he's better than Eddie Guerrero and Mannick guy
Speaker 1: gets heat. This guy jumps up on the apron and
Speaker 1: then aj Styles yanks him off. Damian Priest wipes out
Speaker 1: aj Styles Gallows wipes out Damien Priest and then rear
Speaker 1: Ripley shoves this giant Luke Gallows into the post and
Speaker 1: he stumbles his way back. And she gave this dude
Speaker 1: the most legit held him up. Their body slam on
Speaker 1: the floor you've ever seen like this was this was
Speaker 1: her moment and uh and that was awesome. So then
Speaker 1: of course dom distracts the ref uh Rhea gives the
Speaker 1: low blow to Anderson. Balor crawls on top, gets the pin. Dude,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear this wasn't good, because this
Speaker 1: was really good. It was awesome. The body slam was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was all right, Oh this was good. And this
Speaker 1: dom I like this? Heell Dominic, I like it. Are
Speaker 1: you talking about dom or? Are you talking about this?
Speaker 1: Dominic should go Why haven't they gone back and noted
Speaker 1: the Dominic as the son of Eddie Guarrera. I don't
Speaker 1: care what they did in storyline. They had that storyline
Speaker 1: for a while. If there's one thing that could make
Speaker 1: his dad want to fight him, it's him telling him,
Speaker 1: you're not even my dad. Eddie was my dad. You're
Speaker 1: just some guy that adopted me or something. Oh Man,
Speaker 1: something like that they need to go along with. And
Speaker 1: there's even fans in the crowd holding up the Eddie
Speaker 1: is your father's sign like fans were remember this storyline
Speaker 1: for twenty years ago or whatever. I don't know. He
Speaker 1: may get a lot more mileage out of Let's see
Speaker 1: what happens. He keeps dragging Eddie Guerrero's name in the
Speaker 1: mud by saying that he's better than him. Let's see
Speaker 1: how much he he can get for that. First, we
Speaker 1: had a long Miss Garganos segment where Gargano still wants
Speaker 1: Missed to reveal the truth. Mrs. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what the truth is. The actual truth comes out, it's
Speaker 1: some weird Ohio thing going on here. Truth in his
Speaker 1: hometown beats the miss. But you never would have happened
Speaker 1: with Vince. Not that it really matters that much, but
Speaker 1: long story short, Gargano is told Miss if he doesn't
Speaker 1: tell the truth about Dexter Loomis next week, he's gonna
Speaker 1: tell the truth. We had a segment where Damage Control
Speaker 1: beat up Candice Larrey and Gargano was so concerned that
Speaker 1: he actually does a talking segment later and then a
Speaker 1: match that was bizarre. Johnny good husband. We had a
Speaker 1: segment with Chad Gable and Otis to set up a
Speaker 1: match with Elias. Later, Austin Theory beat Ali in twelve
Speaker 1: minutes uh with the a Town down. Uh. This was,
Speaker 1: by the way, three straight matches with distraction finishes and
Speaker 1: the the The streak of distraction finishes only ended when
Speaker 1: uh Omas beat four men in a one minute handicap match.
Speaker 1: That boy, I don't, I don't. I'm not into this
Speaker 1: Bronze Troman Omas feud, but hey, listen, I'm not into it.
Speaker 1: But they're doing nothing wrong. It's like they got one
Speaker 1: giant who's killing dudes. They got another giant who's even bigger,
Speaker 1: that's killing dudes. And they're saying, if you watched this show,
Speaker 1: they're gonna fight each other. That's pro wrestling, dude. It's
Speaker 1: way better than the old days of Hey, let's let's
Speaker 1: you know whatever. I actually don't think that Vince would
Speaker 1: have beat Nomas, but usually his his booking philosophy is,
Speaker 1: let's beat both these guys for four straight weeks. And
Speaker 1: then by the show to see which one of these
Speaker 1: is is less of a loser than the other. At
Speaker 1: least it's two giants killing everybody and we'll see who
Speaker 1: the king giant is in Saudi Arabia. Elias beat Chad
Speaker 1: Gable ten minutes. I don't want to hear it. It's
Speaker 1: a good match. It Chad Gable is awesome. Alias did
Speaker 1: a good job. Interference, Uh distracted. It's actually the backfired
Speaker 1: and led to uh Elias getting the win over Chad Gable.
Speaker 1: Heels beat him up afterwards. Riddle makes us safe, so
Speaker 1: we get a tag match coming out of it, which,
Speaker 1: unlike in the old days, will be delivered because they
Speaker 1: actually follow up on stuff now. We had a J
Speaker 1: B L promo and then Baron Corbyn versus Johnny Gargana
Speaker 1: went four tea minutes, which was way too long for
Speaker 1: this match. Whatever you want to say about Corbin bro
Speaker 1: his heat is the most boring thing on the planet.
Speaker 1: Although I actually did not almost fall asleep during this match,
Speaker 1: because Gargano is very good and uh, I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're doing with Gargano, but he's like he's doing
Speaker 1: the clown gimmick and he's messing around with j b
Speaker 1: L's hat, and so j b L beats his ass
Speaker 1: and then he gets pinned and he like, you know,
Speaker 1: he brought that all on himself. It is a viewer.
Speaker 1: He brought that all on himself. This was all his
Speaker 1: fault and he was beaten. Not a fan of this
Speaker 1: what they're doing with Gargano. Let me let me get
Speaker 1: this straight too. N x T is single A baseball
Speaker 1: or the Indies and n x T single age. I
Speaker 1: thought he said triple a baseball. Dave said single A.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. The point is at x T is
Speaker 1: the minor leagues. That's what j b L says, which
Speaker 1: is funny because Baron Corbyn was in fact in at
Speaker 1: x T for quite a while. Actually, in fact, he
Speaker 1: was more over an n XC than he ever was
Speaker 1: on the main roster. Say that much. That's sad that
Speaker 1: people making drawings of his. Sad torso as he rustling
Speaker 1: Bull James at the time. And we had the announcement
Speaker 1: that Lessner is going to be back next week, and
Speaker 1: then the main event was Bailey and Bianca bell Air.
Speaker 1: They went twenty three minutes, pretty good match, and at
Speaker 1: the end the you know, the women outside are trying
Speaker 1: to interfere. The ref's about to throw him out, and
Speaker 1: suddenly this body flies off the post and wipes everybody out,
Speaker 1: including the referee. Turns out it's Nicky Cross. Nicky Cross
Speaker 1: ends up giving Bianca the spinning neck breaker Bailey Pinzer
Speaker 1: here in this non title match, and then Nikki also
Speaker 1: attacks Bailey afterwards. So you know, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: politically correct in to call a person crazy, but she's
Speaker 1: doing the crazy gimmick. She's no longer a superhero in
Speaker 1: training or whatever. Are almost a superhero. She is Nicky
Speaker 1: Cross Wild Lady. And it looks like we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a three way for the title, which I'm fine with,
Speaker 1: by the way, since we had the one on one
Speaker 1: match in a stip match with a finish, So if
Speaker 1: Bailey is gonna get another shot in, may as well
Speaker 1: be a three way, And then you have the added intrigue.
Speaker 1: If this intrigue to you, will Bianca lose the belt
Speaker 1: without being beaten? I guess we'll find out. But I
Speaker 1: thought the show was fine. I would not say that
Speaker 1: it was a great show, but it had a great
Speaker 1: thing on the show. It had some good matches on
Speaker 1: the show. The storylines all make sense. They're slow building
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff and it was good. I thought,
Speaker 1: did it fire you up to watch? Riadd Saudi Arabia's
Speaker 1: Crown Jewel coming your way? Bro, I've never been excited
Speaker 1: to watch Crown Jewel and no one ever has. So
Speaker 1: you know, they could they could announce that. You know,
Speaker 1: they've they've cloned Shawn Michael's and Brett Hart and they're
Speaker 1: gonna have another match and Saudi Arabia. I still don't
Speaker 1: want to watch. I don't know. We saw the first
Speaker 1: saw Michaels have his last one there and that was enough. Dude.
Speaker 1: He was the best guy in that matched by Miles
Speaker 1: and that says a lot. That was said back in
Speaker 1: a moment with Rookie back in the show. Brian Elba
Speaker 1: is here Wrestling Observer Alive. Mike simper Viv also of
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer dot Com. And there's Rocky. What's going on
Speaker 1: over there? Can you hear me? Rocky can't hear me here?
Speaker 1: We suddenly can't hear him? Oh yeah, this was just
Speaker 1: working fine. One second to go, literally seconds ago. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's try him again. Let's let's try this again. Everybody
Speaker 1: is Brian's doing that. Rocky's here to talk about plenty
Speaker 1: of things, including the Rumble on Street shows coming up
Speaker 1: at the Palladium in New York City coming up on Friday,
Speaker 1: and uh Thursday and Friday show on the is the
Speaker 1: night before Rumble on Street Halloween special, so cheering allowed
Speaker 1: at both of those shows. Uh. Finally that's actually coming
Speaker 1: back more regularly into play in Japan, and I do
Speaker 1: want to ask him about that over there because it's
Speaker 1: still not widespread yet. But hopefully when he gets back
Speaker 1: on the line here, we're going to be able to
Speaker 1: talk about all those sorts of things. As I'm sure
Speaker 1: the camera is now going to cut back to Brian,
Speaker 1: who's sweating a little bit. Well, no, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I never sweat. Have you ever watched this show reconnecting?
Speaker 1: It says there is a poor network connection. That's certainly
Speaker 1: not a good sign now, is yeah? You know? I'm
Speaker 1: so it's me. Everything was going fine until I just
Speaker 1: completely tuned you out in the first segment, and it's
Speaker 1: pretty much been downhill from there. So I apologize. I
Speaker 1: also apologized everybody watching yesterday who I apparently gave nightmares
Speaker 1: to because you saw my hair, so I without product
Speaker 1: at that, So I apologize. Product. What product do you
Speaker 1: put in your hair? Oh? Man? I got this This
Speaker 1: cotton smells like cotton, candy and vanilla. It's the best stuff,
Speaker 1: rock plastic. There we go. That was so bizarre, like
Speaker 1: we were talking during the break and then the moment
Speaker 1: we went live, all of a sudden, no one could
Speaker 1: hear anybody. That was so weird. So well, here we are.
Speaker 1: Do you realize that I was, as I was getting
Speaker 1: ready to connect that you have not been on the
Speaker 1: show in eight months? Damn? I saw that February February.
Speaker 1: What the heck has been going on? Dude? What hasn't
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been everywhere and all over the world
Speaker 1: and all over the place, and a W impact you have?
Speaker 1: What once you started getting on that a W show
Speaker 1: on National TV? Was like, I ain't coming on this
Speaker 1: guy show anymore. Ye having a big time? Actually, you
Speaker 1: know what though, I just watched now I could put
Speaker 1: you over again because you're on the show. I just
Speaker 1: watched you and Shingo, I'm strong and uh that's great,
Speaker 1: thank you. Okay, I'm really proud of that one. I've
Speaker 1: never Shingo in a singles match, and I was really
Speaker 1: really happy with, uh, you know what what came out
Speaker 1: of it. Obviously, Shingoes like top talent when you talk
Speaker 1: about it, you know, a wrestler in New Japan, and
Speaker 1: to be able to mix it up with him and
Speaker 1: show that rock is still got a little left in
Speaker 1: the tank. You know. I also was listening to those
Speaker 1: fans doing a Chico chant and it really took me back.
Speaker 1: It was, you know, I I gotta say to Uh,
Speaker 1: I was watching that match, and uh, you know, there's
Speaker 1: no disrespect, but when you see the New Japan Strong
Speaker 1: lineup and it says Shingo versus Rocky Romero, the first
Speaker 1: thing you think is not, oh man, Rocky is gonna
Speaker 1: get a big win over Shingo. Your your presumption is
Speaker 1: that shing goes probably gonna get the win, but you
Speaker 1: never know. And I bring that up because you guys
Speaker 1: did that match and uh, I forget what the spot was.
Speaker 1: You did some counter and uh, man, this crowd all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, every single one of them thought Rocky
Speaker 1: Romero is beating Shingo right in front of my eyes,
Speaker 1: and they went crazy. And then man, he kicked out
Speaker 1: and then he finished you off. But I was very
Speaker 1: impressed with that near fall, because that's what you're looking
Speaker 1: for in a match like that. You want to convince them.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the thing I didn't expect to happen
Speaker 1: is actually gonna happen here. And you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: the King of sneaky style is probably gonna win by
Speaker 1: roll up or some kind of you know, smart, intelligent
Speaker 1: sly away. And I think the one that you're talking
Speaker 1: about was when I hit him with that ron out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. Yes, and uh yeah, yeah, I mean why not?
Speaker 1: Why not? So yeah, that completely changed the complexion of
Speaker 1: the match and kind of maybe Rocky can pull it
Speaker 1: out and he might get, you know, a little victory here.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could see him challenging for the KP kop
Speaker 1: W Championship. I mean, you never know, you never know,
Speaker 1: you know, that kop W trophy. I gotta be honest,
Speaker 1: rock I have never been a big fan of it,
Speaker 1: even when Yano had it, but it made a lot
Speaker 1: more sense there. But I'll go ahead and take any
Speaker 1: of my personal feelings towards that trophy and some of
Speaker 1: the steps and put it to the side and say
Speaker 1: that Shingo and l Fantasmo together when you throw some
Speaker 1: of the craziness out, and even when you include a
Speaker 1: craziness in the matches, they seem great together. They seem
Speaker 1: like a fantastic fit. An LP is only going to
Speaker 1: get better and increases standing in New Japan as it
Speaker 1: goes along, as long as he continues to improve. What
Speaker 1: have you thought about those guys, because it's been one
Speaker 1: of the quiet, sneaky things this year in all of
Speaker 1: pro wrestling that's actually really led to some great matches
Speaker 1: and some great interaction. You know, I think el Phantasmo
Speaker 1: is completely underrated. I mean, let's be honest. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's an a whole, but you know, he's a super
Speaker 1: talented wrestler. He's a great character and h I think,
Speaker 1: you know, his trajectory is going to be huge in
Speaker 1: the long run. I think he's gonna be a major
Speaker 1: player for New Japan. And to let him be in
Speaker 1: there with you know, Shingo to Kagi, who's obviously fantastic himself.
Speaker 1: But I love that you've got like some fun ha
Speaker 1: ha kind of you know sandwiched. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: like the sandwich is like the meat of it is
Speaker 1: great wrestling, but you know, the buns are the outs
Speaker 1: ite of it is like this ha ha fun uh
Speaker 1: comical stuff that is kind of surrounded by kp W
Speaker 1: KPW supposed to you know, kind of being an insane
Speaker 1: kind of championship where you know, anything goes and it
Speaker 1: can kind of let, you know, make the playing field
Speaker 1: a little level depending on who's in there, you know,
Speaker 1: and depending on the uh the uh, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: the the match maybe you know, you know, I was
Speaker 1: at the New Japan New Beginning USA trying to remember
Speaker 1: who uh phantasmal faced on that show. But that's right,
Speaker 1: Matt ray Wald and uh and they go out there
Speaker 1: and you know, e LP is just the best hell
Speaker 1: And they went out there and he was the greatest
Speaker 1: baby face in that match. It was unbelievable. And you know,
Speaker 1: you can correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression
Speaker 1: I got was like, you know, they they went out
Speaker 1: there and they I got the impression they weren't sure
Speaker 1: who was going to be cheered and booed, and so
Speaker 1: they kind of just went with, you know, whatever the
Speaker 1: crowd gave them, and what the crowd gave them was,
Speaker 1: you know, they loved Phantasmo. But man, I just watched that.
Speaker 1: I thought this guy is so good. Like some people
Speaker 1: watch him and they see the shortcuts and everything like that,
Speaker 1: and you know they know he's like a really good worker.
Speaker 1: But what a fantastic baby face. This guy is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I think he had a great line of like something like,
Speaker 1: you know, Seattle is an ass whole, yes, but it's
Speaker 1: my ass whole or something yes, And they got a
Speaker 1: huge pop. Yeah, that's what turned them. They're like, this
Speaker 1: guy's are a guy. Now, this guy's are a guy. Well.
Speaker 1: Speaking of this coming weekend, we have got a show
Speaker 1: on fight TV. The night actually there's The Rumble on
Speaker 1: forty four Street, and then the night before there's the
Speaker 1: Night Before the Rumble. And speaking of fantas as, Mohi
Speaker 1: will be facing Shingo as noted for the provisional King
Speaker 1: of Pro Wrestling title in a New York street fight,
Speaker 1: so that'll be exciting. And you and Yo will be
Speaker 1: facing You, Jero and Show in a tag team match,
Speaker 1: which should be a lot of fun. And we've got
Speaker 1: show to Umino Homicide, our own Filthy Tom Lawler, Roight, Siaacs,
Speaker 1: Drell Nelson, Fred Ross or Assie opens on the show,
Speaker 1: Aussie opened in the Motor City. Machine Guns is on
Speaker 1: this show, and Okada and Eddie Kingston versus j White
Speaker 1: and Juice Robinson. Ah, the sounds like some fun matches. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun night of wrestling. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of story about and you know, if
Speaker 1: you're a fan of Strong, you've been watching Strong, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, storylines that are all tying
Speaker 1: up into this and uh yeah, we've got a heck
Speaker 1: of a lineup. We've got you know, wrestles from Impact
Speaker 1: aw New Japan Stardom as well. You know, we're still
Speaker 1: waiting on some announcements for what starter matches are going
Speaker 1: to be like. But I know there's big announcements coming
Speaker 1: all the way until until Friday. But the night before
Speaker 1: Thursday night is a Hallowing special. It's a mystery card,
Speaker 1: almost like a mystery Vortex type of card. So I
Speaker 1: know there's some big names already announced for that, you know,
Speaker 1: some people who will be on Friday. But there's also
Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of special guests and special matches,
Speaker 1: so you know, get the bundle on fight. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be worth It's like twenty nine bucks and you get
Speaker 1: two great nights of wrestling. Now, now, how does a
Speaker 1: a mystery vortex style work in the sense of, we
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to be on the show, But
Speaker 1: do you, for example, have the entire lineup for the
Speaker 1: show already or is it going to be a deal
Speaker 1: where you know, we got a few matches, but once
Speaker 1: everybody shows up, it's kind of like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't advertise anything, so what looks like it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fun tonight? You versus you, you versus Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: just let everyone just go crazy. Let's go with that
Speaker 1: route because it sounds more fun. So yeah, let's say
Speaker 1: that everybody will show up on Thursday and then you
Speaker 1: know it's somebody will pick somebody out of a hat
Speaker 1: and let's make it happen. Well, you know they always
Speaker 1: did that worked battle Bowl? Remember battle Bowl? And uh,
Speaker 1: I always thought, listen, you know, the matches can be
Speaker 1: worked and everything like that, But why don't you do
Speaker 1: like a shoot battle Bowl where you literally put everyone's
Speaker 1: name in a hat and you actually have everyone you
Speaker 1: know pick a name out to make all of the teams.
Speaker 1: So instead of like trying to work it where oh,
Speaker 1: you know, the Steiners just happened to be, you know,
Speaker 1: paired together and this and that. It's like, let's do
Speaker 1: a real battle ball and you know, wrestlers are creative.
Speaker 1: If you put filthy and and uh phantasmo together, they
Speaker 1: randomly got put together. It's like, I'm sure they could
Speaker 1: come up with some fun act for that night. So
Speaker 1: that's always been my dream. Yeah, that'd be wild phantasmic
Speaker 1: and Tom and anything would be pretty wild shenanigans right there.
Speaker 1: So why is it? Why is it? I get the
Speaker 1: feeling here you're trying to weasel your way into one
Speaker 1: of these situations, one of these tragically show off so
Speaker 1: deeply retired here after that last matchress Tom. But is
Speaker 1: this now this is a Halloween theme. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to spoil anything, and maybe you can just
Speaker 1: say no comment, But I mean, is everyone gonna wear
Speaker 1: costumes here? I mean I assume. I mean, we we
Speaker 1: got an email that we are encouraged to wear costumes
Speaker 1: if we if we'd like. So yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: some people are going to be definitely going to be
Speaker 1: wearing costumes. Uh. Anybody who does come to the actual show,
Speaker 1: their new Japan is giving a free gift away two
Speaker 1: people dressed in costumes. I know tickets are still available
Speaker 1: for Thursday night and Take Master Friday is all sold out,
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, come on down to the Palladium
Speaker 1: in Times Square, in Times Square, costume in Times Square,
Speaker 1: You're running Times Square at the Palladium. It's incredible Hollywood
Speaker 1: Halloween weekend. And for years old, that's celebrate. Really, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be your birthday so much. Of course he's younger
Speaker 1: than me. Pretty much everybody is, that's true. What you know?
Speaker 1: I I watched, uh, like I said, I watched that
Speaker 1: that Shingo match, and uh, you know what, what's forty?
Speaker 1: Feel like? You didn't look forty? I felt forty in
Speaker 1: that one. That's the worst. That's the worst, isn't it.
Speaker 1: But the thing is is like me and Shingo are
Speaker 1: the same age, but nobody, I think everybody thinks that
Speaker 1: I'm just like way older than Shingo. So you know,
Speaker 1: I felt forty, but I was like, man, I've got
Speaker 1: to keep up with Shingo, you know, Like that's what's
Speaker 1: just going through my mind. And that's like my motivation
Speaker 1: and any kind of a big matches with big upon
Speaker 1: it's it's like, you're only forty, you better do this.
Speaker 1: You know. I did that that tag with with Filthy
Speaker 1: and uh man, you know I I managed to pull
Speaker 1: everything off, but I did feel very very forty seven
Speaker 1: in that match, and I was like, God, this, this
Speaker 1: whole getting old thing sucks. Like what ye man, you
Speaker 1: gotta waste to go with me. I've been doing infrared
Speaker 1: sauna lately and that's kind of been helping me not
Speaker 1: feel forty. I feel like I've been trying to do
Speaker 1: thirty minutes every day and what's an infra red atana?
Speaker 1: What is that? Yeah? What is? It's like it's a
Speaker 1: a ssauna that that instead of heats you up like
Speaker 1: with steam or whatever or like hot coals, it's it's
Speaker 1: like an electronic infrared lazers at you and I guess yeah,
Speaker 1: it heats you up from the inside. They say, wow,
Speaker 1: I've seen it way more flexible. I feel great. Really.
Speaker 1: There's there's there's a tanny place that has a red
Speaker 1: light tanning ben, which is not ultraviolet rays, but it's
Speaker 1: like red light that kind of sounds like this souna deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah it could be all right? Well, hey standby, will
Speaker 1: plug more after the Break Observer Live back in the
Speaker 1: show right now, bre is here Wrestling Observer Live, Mike
Speaker 1: simbur Viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Rocky Romero is returned.
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to make this a monthly segment here,
Speaker 1: but we do have two big shows coming up this
Speaker 1: weekend October and New York City and the Palladium in
Speaker 1: at Times Square the night before the Rumble on Street
Speaker 1: followed by the Rumble on Street, So lots of big
Speaker 1: matches and uh man, I'm I'm honestly more excited for
Speaker 1: the night before because I the idea of a mystery
Speaker 1: show and like a bunch of wacky matches and Tom
Speaker 1: dresses Julia amazing dressed. Does that's not a bad idea? Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you don't. You don't tell me anything
Speaker 1: like that's that's the problem. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a problem. But so tell us about this Fight dot tv. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Fight TV, Fight dot TV. There's a bundle packs gets
Speaker 1: you two nights of wrestling already been announced for for
Speaker 1: both nights obviously Okada, Eddie Kingston, j White. I think
Speaker 1: on the night before Masca Dorada's announced. I mean, you
Speaker 1: got on Friday Night. You've got e O P versus
Speaker 1: Shingo to Kagi Wheeler. You'd is going to be there
Speaker 1: on Friday Night. I mean two nights of great action.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna want to miss it. I'm excited for
Speaker 1: the Thursday night Halloween show as well, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of gonna be a lot of great surprises. Oh
Speaker 1: on Friday, don't forget Clark Connors versus Minora Suzuki. Clark
Speaker 1: Honnor is coming back from major injury and he calls
Speaker 1: out the king of professional wrestling in the North, Suzuki,
Speaker 1: and supposedly he's got a big surprise. That's gotta be
Speaker 1: there for that, I guess or somebody. He was talking
Speaker 1: about it the other day, So I'm excited to see
Speaker 1: what he's got up to. Sleep excellent. Well, yeah, we
Speaker 1: are out of time, everybody, but we'll be talking about
Speaker 1: the next couple of days as well. Maybe we'll try
Speaker 1: and get Clark on the show if we can make
Speaker 1: it happen. But uh, coming up this weekend October and
Speaker 1: Fight dot TV New Japan. Thank you, Rocky, Thank you
Speaker 1: everybody for listening. We'll talk to you again after a while.
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