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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: All the smoke coming to you live from the crib

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Speaker 3: in La Man. Were outside, so if you hear some

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: We were able to track down I've been trying to

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Speaker 3: track this dude down in like two three years, and

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Speaker 3: he telling me, hold on, man, I got a lot

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Speaker 3: of ship coming out. I want to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: And we're finally here. Man, we want to welcome one

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Speaker 3: of the most iconic college athletes of all time.

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Speaker 2: My neighbors live right down the.

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Speaker 3: Street, kids going to school again, going to the same school.

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Speaker 2: A lot going on right now.

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Speaker 3: This is a really hot time for the nt double

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Speaker 3: a uharticularly yourself as well.

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Speaker 2: Where's your state of mind right now?

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Speaker 3: Because you're not a very outspoken person, but I've been

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Speaker 3: seen kind of talk your shit on Instagram a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But so where are you at right now with all

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Speaker 3: this NCAA stuff and trying to right their wrongs and

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Speaker 2: Where are you staying with it?

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Speaker 1: I have an open lawsuit right now against A for

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Speaker 1: defamation of character, So that's what's next for me. When

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Speaker 1: in regards to the nstable A, we filed the defamation

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Speaker 1: character lawsuit a few months or about a year ago, but

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Speaker 1: it was based on a statement that they made about me,

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Speaker 1: saying that I was I wouldn't be reinstated, which I'm

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Speaker 1: technically still not reinstated right now. So I got my

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Speaker 1: I don't have any stats. So the fight still continues,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So we're still working through

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Speaker 1: this thing. But I have the open lawsuit right now

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Speaker 1: against them for defamation of character for a statement that

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Speaker 4: And you know, we expected that too.

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Speaker 1: I expected them to not want to see me, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because they understand and they know

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Speaker 1: they lied, and it's only a matter of time before

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Speaker 1: the truth comes out and that's ultimately what's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: Literally as we speak, facts are coming out, the truth

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Speaker 4: And it's all it's all bad.

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Speaker 3: On the instead A's part, you spoke a little bit

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Speaker 3: before we got on the air. You have a big documentary,

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Speaker 4: I don't have a six part series.

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Speaker 1: It will be, but it will be you know around there, four, six, eight,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. There's so much information that's going to be

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Speaker 1: in this documentary. It's all new information. So it's nothing

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Speaker 1: that anybody knew or thought they knew about my story.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot that was covered up in

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Speaker 1: you know, just releasing little things to damage my character.

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Speaker 1: One of the biggest ones was basically calling me a

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Speaker 4: A day of my life.

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Speaker 1: And you know, my definition as an athlete of a

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Speaker 4: And but it goes to show you.

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Speaker 1: The depths of which the NC double A was willing

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Speaker 3: Obviously, congratulations for getting your Heisman trophy back, but when

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Speaker 3: NC double A. Again you mentioned earlier, you haven't definitely

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Speaker 3: So how hard and frustrating was it at the time

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Speaker 2: So how hard was that for you?

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Speaker 1: It was very hard because, like you said that you're

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Speaker 1: I have been saying the same thing from day one,

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Speaker 1: and you know they were alleging all these things against me.

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Speaker 4: You know, they they really didn't like.

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Speaker 1: It also bothered them that we were successful and we

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Speaker 4: So our team was big.

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Speaker 1: Was everywhere. And it's unfortunate because you know, everything that

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Speaker 4: Really was about during that time period.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it was tough for me, but like

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Speaker 3: Nil has been a huge topic over the last few

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Speaker 3: NC DOUBLEA is coming from outside resources. What do you

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Speaker 3: still feel like needs to happen to just write this?

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Speaker 4: If?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the NCAA is a billion dollar institution. Football

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the first step was NIL, allowing players

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Speaker 1: And so that's what really the Supreme Court ruling was

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Speaker 1: The money that we were making was being used to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you see a new building, I mean I'll

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Speaker 2: We had something to do with that, A lot to do.

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Speaker 3: And it was funny too, because there's supposed to be

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Speaker 3: I was a huge fan of you guys because I

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Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, it's the environment we created

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Speaker 1: you know, stadium packed, ninety three, ninety four.

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Speaker 4: Thousand rappers rapping about y'all. College. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: You know, the only thing you can compare that to

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Speaker 1: everything that the U was doing. The players, they were flashy,

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Speaker 4: Football can do this of that.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the nc double A has always been

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four is a year of truth twenty four.

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Speaker 5: New college football game coming out. He was on two

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Speaker 4: They owe you some money. Yeah, but you know how

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Speaker 1: You see you look on that cover. You see my

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Speaker 1: Every time you say a student athlete, you their word

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Speaker 3: I would be remiss without mentioning our brother Ed Albannon

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Speaker 1: I didn't even have fullbacks in the league anymore so

443
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: that period, so that that position is completely gone. And

444
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: so now everything has gone more to a more spread

445
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: out four receivers, three receivers, some tight ends are considered receivers.

446
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 4: Right and single back sets.

447
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: And that's that was perfectly tailored from somebody like me

448
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: who had speed vision, can catch the football, can kind

449
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 1: of create a lot of issues for linebackers, and so

450
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: if I played in this era, I mean mistake, Yeah,

451
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 1: it's it's game over. But you know, I'm also a

452
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: fan of of just seeing, you know, how much faster

453
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 1: the game is played, you know, because I do believe

454
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: the game is just being played faster.

455
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 4: It's some more QB driven league. You're seeing more.

456
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: Dual threat quarterbacks come out now, which I love, and

457
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: black quarterbacks.

458
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 4: You know, I think was it this.

459
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: Past year or the year before was the first time

460
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: we had two black quarterbacks started with super Jalen Hurts

461
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 1: and Pat Mahomes. So, you know, I love seeing this,

462
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: this evolution of the dual threat quarterback. My son plays

463
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: flag football, but I got them playing quarterback literally for

464
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: that reason, because I want him to be able to

465
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: utilize all his skills set. If I can go back

466
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: to college and do it all over again, I'll play.

467
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 1: I'll playing quarterback.

468
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: You should see how fast it sub plays basketball. One

469
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 2: of my sons. Yeah, on the basketball court. You just

470
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 2: tell this in him, he be taking off.

471
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Speaker 4: I'm like that.

472
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 5: Even with running backs being a high topic right now

473
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 5: and a lot of teams trying to figure out how

474
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 5: they can get a key running back to be successful.

475
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Speaker 4: They're still the lowest paid. What's your being on that?

476
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Speaker 1: It sucks, man, I hate seeing that, bro because eating

477
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, because running backs take the biggest beating,

478
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: They take the most contact on every single play, and.

479
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's a it's.

480
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: A very very tough position to succeed in, especially now

481
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: in this day and age, and stay healthy and stay healthy.

482
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: That's the other that's the biggest issue, right is staying healthy.

483
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: You know, most running backs especially you know, we talked

484
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: about this air running backs, you're always outweighed, always by

485
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: the linebackers, by the d lineman.

486
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 4: And so you got to think every time you run

487
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 4: through that through.

488
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 1: That line, you're hitting this seventh or eight guys that

489
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: are way bigger than you that you got to run through.

490
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: And so, by nature, that position is not designed for

491
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: you to last long.

492
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 4: Just by nature, you know.

493
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Speaker 1: I believe though, that there are still some great running

494
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: backs out there that can carry the load, that can

495
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: be the difference maker.

496
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 4: And I think as.

497
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Speaker 1: Much as I've loved the speed of the game and

498
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: where it's going and how much is a passing game,

499
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: I think we also need to get back to running

500
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: football little bit more too, because that balances out you

501
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: know what you can do on offense. You know, if

502
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: you have a good attack from the running back from

503
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: the backfield, that's opening up everything for the quarter.

504
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 5: Actually that helps the lineman too. Yeah, exactly. The line

505
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 5: hate dropping back, exactly, hate dropping back sixty times a game.

506
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 5: But they like, you know, they big. They want to

507
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 5: put the weight on somebody.

508
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: I want to go forward, you know, so when you

509
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: going backwards all the time, you know that's not that's

510
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: not fun.

511
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: How is your body? I mean high school, college pros.

512
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll talk about the accident you had of

513
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: the slip, yeah, but how is your body overall?

514
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: So my body now is great? Man, I feel I

515
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: feel amazing, you know. But when I when I retired

516
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: from the NFL, uh, it's going on six years now

517
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: for me, I might even be here off it might

518
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: be seven years. But you know it's crazy how time,

519
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: you know, how fast it just goes. Man. You know

520
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: the game, it's a young man's game. Game not gonna

521
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: wait for you. But you know, for me, I played

522
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: eleven years in the NFL as running back, which is

523
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: a long time, and I was fighting through my last

524
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: two years. Man, I was fighting through some pretty bad

525
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: injuries and mostly all from my left knee. So I

526
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: tore my PCO medium miniscus, I've had microfracture surgery, and

527
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: I've torn my lot on meniscus as well, and so

528
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: all those you know, injuries, you know, required a significant

529
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: amount of time period, as you guys know, to come

530
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: back from. And you know what the issue was for

531
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: me was coming back from those injuries as fast as

532
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: you have to come back, you gotta bounce back that

533
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: right there next year, and you got to be just

534
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: as good as you were to use somebody or somebody

535
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: el's coming to take your spot. And so over time,

536
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: you know, I just I couldn't get myself my body

537
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: back healthy enough in order to play, you know, football

538
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: star retired and I was dealing with a lot of

539
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: injuries on my left knee.

540
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 4: I saw a bunch of doctors.

541
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: Pretty much all of the doctors I saw told me

542
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: I needed replacement surgery. And you know that, yeah, exactly,

543
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: and and and that was the biggest, you know discussion.

544
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: I was always asking doctors, well, I'm only in my

545
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: someone to do the gaming, so if I get it now,

546
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: and knowing how active I am, am, I gonna be

547
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: back on the shelf in the next fifteen twenty years,

548
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: and so they obviously all said that's a big possibility,

549
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, now I'm faced with this dilemma.

550
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: What do I do, right? And so I went right

551
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: away started doing research, started looking for answers, you know,

552
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: started doing started working on my body. For one, most importantly,

553
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: I started putting work into my body, and I think

554
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: that was.

555
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: Something that I truly needed.

556
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: I needed to put more focus back into my body,

557
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: getting strong, getting healthy, and so I started.

558
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: Doing that.

559
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: And I connected with this company, Victory Insols. They have

560
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,360
Speaker 1: these carbon fiber insoles that I lose that I use

561
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: every single day. And these insoles are amazing and I

562
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: would recommend them to anybody, especially athletes. But they've been

563
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: able to give me some technology and some extra extra

564
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: lyftling left side that just.

565
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 4: Helps balance out my walk.

566
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: And then from there, now that my walk is more

567
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: balanced out, now it's more about me, you know, getting

568
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: my body back stronger and healthier. But you know, as

569
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: far as the the pain that I was dealing with

570
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, man, it was excruciating and it

571
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: was one of the worst things, you know that that

572
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: I've had to go through because it was a daily pain.

573
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: And when you're in daily pain, it affects you mentally.

574
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: It affects how you respond to people. It affected how

575
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: responding to my kids, my wife, and you know, I

576
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: saw things that I just needed to to fix about

577
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: myself and about my body that would help my overall

578
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: health hopefully. As a long ass explanation, that got to it.

579
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 2: That's good.

580
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 5: You number one player in high school played with Alex Smith.

581
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 5: It was like, it was awesome man.

582
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: Alex was.

583
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 4: San Diego, y.

584
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: N It was awesome man playing with Alex. You know,

585
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: we didn't lose a football game. We went undefeated every year.

586
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: You know, we our team was loaded. You know, we

587
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: were football school my high school. He looked high school

588
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: to lose a game in high school, didn't lose a game.

589
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 4: Brot home, this is crazy.

590
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: So by the time I got to the NFL, my

591
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: total career, I had only lost three games total.

592
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: That's college and high school.

593
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: That's college and high school. I lost a total of

594
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: three games. So when I got to the NFL, and

595
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: then we went through my rookie year and we went

596
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: to the NC Championship, game. I was like, Oh, this

597
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: is just it's gonna be for the rest of my career.

598
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: You know, I thought I was just gonna be winning

599
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: every year. And you know, obviously you get humbled playing

600
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: but but yeah, man, going back to playing with Alex,

601
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, it was awesome having a quarterback like that.

602
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: You know, I've been blessed really to play with great quarterbacks.

603
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: And you know that to me has helped my career

604
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: more than anything, because when you're surrounded by great talent,

605
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: it just it makes everything else better. And Alex is

606
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: a great leader. He was a great you know, team

607
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: captain for us. He was a great player as a

608
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: good person, a good person, and you know it comes

609
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: from a great family too. His dad was our principal

610
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, but Alex, I love the.

611
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 4: Way that he he attacked the work.

612
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: You know, he always worked his butt off, He always

613
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: showed up, he always played hard. And his last the

614
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: last year was my junior year. That's when we really

615
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: started to throw the football more. And once we started

616
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: throwing the ball more, we started spreading out the offense.

617
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: That's when he started getting recruited and you know, the

618
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: rest is history. He went to Utah had a great,

619
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Speaker 1: great career Utah with Irby Meyer, put them on the map,

620
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: and then obviously went.

621
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Speaker 4: To the NFL.

622
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Speaker 5: He's I don't know him too well, but he says

623
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 5: a lot of positive things on our post and all

624
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: the smoke page in on my page, he sent a

625
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 5: lot of positives.

626
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, yeah, exactly, And he went through.

627
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, god, dang, you know, is as

628
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: tough as an injury can possibly be humanly possibly be. Man,

629
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Speaker 1: You always hear, you know, I would, I would always

630
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: hear stories of you know, just different surgeries that went bad.

631
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: You know, somebody caught some kind of infection or something,

632
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: imputators like.

633
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know those are the those are the

634
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: horror stories that you just never want to go through,

635
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: especially somebody like me who was going through, you know,

636
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: surgeries and injuries constantly in and out of the hospital

637
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: doctors and you know, knock on wood, man. I was

638
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: just so happy that you know, obviously, you know, I

639
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: was able to go through all my stuff, you know, healthy.

640
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: But but Alex Man, great great guy.

641
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: His injury opened up the door for Pat Mahomes right, exactly.

642
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 5: So crazy growing up in San Diego watching the Damien Thompson.

643
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: For you, man, it was it was everything for me,

644
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: Bro it was Washing LTS and with the Chargers. You know,

645
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: growing up in San Diego, you're naturally a Charger fan.

646
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: And you know, our two biggest, biggest athletes you know

647
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: from San Diego was Junior Seout and Tony Gwynn in baseball.

648
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: And if you played, he's one of those either one

649
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: of those sports. You wanted to be like those guys.

650
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: And so I grew up watching those guys. And then

651
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: I got to high school in college and started watching

652
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: LT and just Washing the way that he ran the football.

653
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: I would run into him at a lot of the

654
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: high school.

655
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: You know, award ceremonies. He would be.

656
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: He would always show up and be the honorary you know,

657
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: celebrity athlete to come and hand out the awards. And

658
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: so we connected in high school, stayed in touch in college,

659
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: and then so my sophomore year, after my sophomoreere finished,

660
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: I was up at the Heisman Trophy, didn't win, and

661
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: so I knew that I had a shot to possibly

662
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: win it the next year. So I was like, man,

663
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: I got to take my work ethic. I gotta take

664
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: this thing to the next level. And so I hit LT.

665
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: I was like, man, let me come and just start

666
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: working out with you, because I want to work around

667
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: the best. I don't want to see what it's like.

668
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: And we got it. We went worked out together. He

669
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: whooped my ass a couple of times in the workouts.

670
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: But what it did for me was it showed me

671
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: how the best works at that time and where I

672
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: need to get to. And so, you know, I'm so

673
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: appreciative to LT, you know, for a lot to just

674
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: be around him in those times, because it just it

675
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: really motivated me and showed me, Okay, I see what

676
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: the best is working and how he's working, but I

677
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: can get there, and I feel like I can do

678
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: it even better. And so that summer I went to work,

679
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, after working with LT. And then you know,

680
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: the next year, that next season won the Heisman Trophy.

681
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 4: Was ugly. How many people can say that though, And

682
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 4: that's when you're in high school.

683
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 5: I on a call LT like to turn my game,

684
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 5: but you got I love young fellas, yes.

685
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: Sir, but you know I love you know, and that's

686
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: what I try to do.

687
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: Man.

688
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: I try to pass it back down to the young

689
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: kids now. Now we obviously none of us can do

690
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: it anymore. I'm coaching my sons, you know, flag football teams,

691
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: basketball teams, I'm coaching my kids in track and field.

692
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do everything I can to now dump

693
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: all my knowledge that I've built and pour it back

694
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: into them. And you know, it's getting it's getting fun

695
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: right now with my kids because I mean I'm starting

696
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: to see, so what's the ages now?

697
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: Uh So, my daughter's eleven, y'r ryah.

698
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: My middle son is eight, he's about to be nine,

699
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: and then my youngest olger mind is six, he's about

700
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: to be seven.

701
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: And they all play sports.

702
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: My two boys run track, I play football, basketball, Then

703
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: my daughter.

704
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 4: Is track and tennis.

705
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: Nice and but you know, again, it's getting fun for

706
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: me right now because I'm just seeing the work that

707
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: they put in and the work I put in with

708
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: them is starting to show up on the basketball court,

709
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: on the football field.

710
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 5: I mean, it just makes sense with all the other

711
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 5: he'sman running backs from San Diego, you just had to

712
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 5: fit in that category home with Williams Solon.

713
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

714
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: Man, So I uh so growing up my area, just

715
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: my ten fifteen mile race where I grew up as

716
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: with Sean Salon, Ricky Williams, Marcus Allan, Terrell Davis.

717
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 7: All from that one a little being all you'll football, Yeah,

718
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 7: and so I see, you know, I've had examples in

719
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 7: front of me, you know of guys who've done.

720
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: It, who come from my great examples, great examples. You know,

721
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: Marcus only went to U s C. You know, Ricky Williams,

722
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean he was everything. Ricky was larger than life.

723
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: Yes, he was a man. It was crazy.

724
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: And so watching these guys and just knowing that they

725
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: paved a way for me, showing me that a San

726
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: Diego running back could do it, could come from this

727
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: neighborhood and can go do it at the highest level,

728
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: it motivated me. And you know I used, you know,

729
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: all of that motivation to to you know, try and

730
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: replicate that, you know, on the football field what they did,

731
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: and try to, you know, do it bigger and better,

732
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: try to see it. And so you know, it's it's awesome, man,

733
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: our neighborhood in San Diego. You know, there's there's a

734
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: lot of rich history in football there.

735
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: T Y.

736
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: Td so Roy Davison, Markus I went to the same

737
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: high school, lincol high school. So actually it was crazy.

738
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: It's Lincoln High School. For a while, it was man,

739
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: it was it was bad.

740
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 4: It was real bad high school. I went to Lincoln.

741
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 8: All las around the world, east Side high the Lincoln, and.

742
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: I can't like that.

743
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: But uh but yeah, so Lincoln High School now actually

744
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: is one of the top high schools in San Diego.

745
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: They put a lot of money back into the high school.

746
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: I believe their football program. Yeah, the football programs is

747
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: competing now. They got state championships football and had that

748
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, So they got state

749
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: now that Lincoln has been playing and I know the

750
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: basketball team is pretty good.

751
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 4: Baseball team is supposed to be pretty good too. So yeah, yeah, they.

752
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: Put a lot of money to that and that's I'm

753
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: so glad that they've done that because for a very

754
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: long time that school was always you know, it was

755
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: always known as the hood school. So now you've seen

756
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: all the success people pouring money back into the inner cities,

757
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: and that's what the inner city committees need.

758
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 5: When the last time you ran the forty, it's been

759
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 5: a minute, it's been a minute. The last time you ran,

760
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 5: what was your time?

761
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: You think you my last my last forty four three three.

762
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: I ran four to three uh at my at my

763
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: pro day at USC And you know, I was a

764
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: track guy, and so track and field for me, And

765
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: that's why my kids run track right now. It's because

766
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, track is just it translates to every sport.

767
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: I don't care what sported. Every sport involves running, except

768
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: for golf. But but you know, track and field was

769
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: everything for me in my career because I was already

770
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: naturally fast, but once I learned how to run technique,

771
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: I get into the open field, just relax and just

772
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: straighten up, and it's just I would.

773
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: Pull away from God, you're still four five. I'm definitely

774
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: on the four five. Yeah still, Yeah, you definitely can

775
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 4: get Yeah, it'sbably go test this out right out. There's

776
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 4: been a many did it recently.

777
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: Ran naked for what for nine?

778
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? Which there you're gonna do right now.

779
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: I'll probably pulled something. Yeah, my fastest the fourth three.

780
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: It might not be that fast, but I can do it.

781
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: Ain't gonna be that fast, I.

782
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 3: Could probably still I'm probably five. Pete Carroll, how instrumental

783
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 3: was he? Uh As obviously kind of a mentor coach

784
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: and the leader of that squad.

785
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pete Man, Pete was.

786
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: You know Pete, the culture started with Pete. The culture

787
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: that we created, it starts with the head coach. The

788
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: culture that any team creates always starts with the head coach.

789
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: And you know, he created a culture. But you know,

790
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: the players took it and we just we improved it, right,

791
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: we made we made it better. And but Pete was,

792
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: you know he was. He was amazing because he always

793
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: wanted us to have fun. But he knew how to

794
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: get the most out of us, right, he knew how

795
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: to get us to, you know, work as humanly as

796
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: hard as humanly possible. You know, we we had fun

797
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: while doing it. You know, you see some of our games,

798
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: we'd be celebrating on sidelines, chest bumping, dancing, whatever it was.

799
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: And so it was a very fun field environment. And

800
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: I think you when you're talking about college kids, that's

801
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: what you need, right. It doesn't need to be a

802
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: straight business, and you lose them exactly, especially right now

803
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 1: in this.

804
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: Era with the way you cannot.

805
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: I don't think the coaches that I had we'll be

806
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: able to we'll be able to thrive in this era

807
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: with these with these kids because it's.

808
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: Just a different ballgame.

809
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: And they they there's a lot more information that's available

810
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: to him, which is you know, another.

811
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: Part of it.

812
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, social media is another part of transfer portal.

813
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: Right now you can just pick up and leave if

814
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: you want to. And so you know, our team, our

815
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: third stream was a five star. You won't see that anymore.

816
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: You will never see another five star player, maybe even

817
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: sitting second stream, because there's gonna be other teams that

818
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: are gonna need him and want him.

819
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 4: And he can go and play right now.

820
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: Like, hey, we got this for you exactly next month.

821
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: We can go make money right now. So now players

822
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: about college players about to get paid. So now it's

823
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: it's really open season. Because now, why why would I

824
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: go sit behind somebody if another universe is gonna offer

825
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: me money right now, I can go start playing get

826
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: film on me right now.

827
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: So this is transfer portal. It just changed everything, man, And.

828
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: You're thinking enough to cut you off in a good

829
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 3: or bad way, because I mean we all came up

830
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 3: with like ship sometimes you gotta sit your turn. So

831
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 3: our freshman year, we didn't really do stuff a second.

832
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: Your sophomore year, junior year, I mean, what are your

833
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: thoughts on them because obviously it is beneficial for some

834
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: people to go get a fresh start, but at the

835
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: same time, to me, you keep running from the smoke.

836
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: At some point you ain't nowhere to run, you know.

837
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 4: It's I think it's a case by case.

838
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: We've seen it really benefit some players. So I think

839
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 1: the perfect example is Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow transferred, goes.

840
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: To l s U.

841
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 4: That next year, the team takes off the.

842
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: Jayalen Hurst, they go win the National Championship, he wins

843
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: a Heisman Trophy first round drafted. They may not have

844
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: happened if he had to just sit there and wait.

845
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: And so you know, I love the positive benefits of

846
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: it and where it can help a player to go

847
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: and start playing right now, because for so long a

848
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: coach should get fired and go get another job week

849
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: two weeks a week, you know, still while still getting

850
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: paid by the by the previous score. And so you know,

851
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: I didn't love that because players used to used to

852
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 1: have to sell a whole year. Remember, sit an entire

853
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: year before you can go and play if you want

854
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: to transfer.

855
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: So I thought that was an issue.

856
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: So now that they got rid of that, I love

857
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: that the power is back into players hands. On the

858
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: other end, I think the players need representation when they're

859
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: making these decisions, right, So you need some kind of guidance,

860
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if your school is the

861
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: right one to handle that, right. You can't just go

862
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: have somebody from your vision. It's got to be a

863
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: separate you know, agent or somebody represents you in this

864
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: decision about to make because it could make a break

865
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: in your future. And so there are stories out there

866
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: guys who get stuck in the transfer portal and the

867
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: new team maybe brings in another player and the old

868
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: team don't want them anymore.

869
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: So now where you go, I want to say, I

870
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: heard a crazy them, Like there's seventeen hundred kids in

871
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: there with only like two hundred and fifty schools.

872
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. So it's it's yeah.

873
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: So so now you got a lot more kids hopping

874
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: into the transfer portal, and it's competition in.

875
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: The transferport in the matrix.

876
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 4: You can get stuck in that matrix.

877
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I like the players having more power, but again, any representation.

878
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: All right, so obviously you're you're on the field at

879
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: SC was well covered and decorated. What was life like

880
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,720
Speaker 3: off the field for you, because obviously you had again,

881
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: like I said earlier, you had life.

882
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

883
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 3: It's eighteen nineteen. Your name is up there with Kobe

884
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: and Shaq. I was life like outside of football.

885
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: It was. It was.

886
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: It was good. You know, it was fun. Obviously, you

887
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: get a lot of We got a lot of respect

888
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: everywhere we went. I wasn't a big party guy, so

889
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: I wasn't out in the streets like that. I was

890
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: really focused on trying to get to the next level,

891
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: and so I didn't have a lot of time for

892
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: for bs. I't having a lot of time for bullshit,

893
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: and so for me, you know, I would go out

894
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: and hang out here and there, but I was more

895
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: focused on I need to get to this next level

896
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: because this is not the final stop for me. And

897
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, as much as fun we were having and

898
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: we were enjoying it, my mind was focused and it

899
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: was locked in on where I need to get to.

900
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: And so, you know, it was.

901
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: It was awesome. You know, obviously being at school and

902
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: winning championships, you know, it was.

903
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 4: It was amazing, man, it was.

904
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: College was one of the best experiences of my life

905
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: and you know, to this day, you know, it to

906
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: me holds a special place in my heart because I

907
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: felt like I became a man in college and you know,

908
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: a lot more responsibilities placed on my shoulders, right, you know,

909
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: everything about my future was right there in front of me,

910
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: and I had to lock in and go get it.

911
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: And so, you know, I really, you know, I really

912
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: locked in on you know, school. I tried to block

913
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: out you know, all the bs from the outside. You know,

914
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: where there was outside people, you know, trying to you know,

915
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

916
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 4: I just tried to block out the outside people as

917
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: much as I could. Man.

918
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, you know that happened with this, you know,

919
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: this situation with with the NC double A and everything

920
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: that happened with that. But you know, for me again,

921
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, just being around that time period, I had

922
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: so much fun. I enjoyed it. The co experience was

923
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: everything I could ever imagined. And you know that was

924
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: a journey. Yeah, like you said, man, the journey is

925
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: when you look back on it, you know, yeah, I was.

926
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: I love the championships, but the journey being in the

927
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: locker room with your teammates, your brothers, the rogue game.

928
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to study hall the bus ride.

929
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 5: Where were you two thousand and three? Two thousand and three,

930
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 5: I was a freshman freshman, and so that's the last

931
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 5: time I seen you in person. Let me tell you why.

932
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 4: We won the championship that year, and we went to

933
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: a party here in LA for the sp Awards last Yeah,

934
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 4: I remember, remind you last time.

935
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 5: I said, we had a good time tonight because it

936
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 5: was the time of Bay Buccaneers that the year, and

937
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 5: U and we were all in the same part.

938
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: I remember that must be nice.

939
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: We had a good time. We definitely got you know

940
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 4: we I mean whenever we wanted to.

941
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: Go to clubs and stuff like.

942
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: That's no bigger place here in l A.

943
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: You were the best player on the best team in

944
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: college football, you know what I mean.

945
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: So it's just like the world is yours.

946
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 4: Freshman he walked in there. But Reggie Bush, it was,

947
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: it was all of it, you know.

948
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: I didn't.

949
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 4: I didn't at that time period.

950
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how big it was because when you

951
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: were in it, you were just like, this is what

952
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: we do.

953
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 4: But when you look back on.

954
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: It, man, and and I didn't realize how big it

955
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: was and how massive what we were doing was and

956
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: how we were changing the game and how we were

957
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: affecting you know, people's you know, decisions to go to

958
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: colleges and stuff like that.

959
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: Man, it was it was all you get done with

960
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: your dog, let's work on the sc dot.

961
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah.

962
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. People in Texas USC jerseys and we was rooting

963
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 4: for Vince Young. That's my dog, man, Vince.

964
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? You know what I love about

965
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, love about the game. You know, you guys

966
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: understand this, man is you know, you know sometimes.

967
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 4: The players who are your your your rivals.

968
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: And your enemies on the field end up becoming some

969
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: guys your friend and you know, Vince is one is uh,

970
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: you know, somebody have a lot of respect for it.

971
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: Because Vince also did something that I'll never forget. And

972
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, after we played National Championship game, obviously they

973
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: beat us, one of the things that we did, me

974
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: and Matt did was we went to their locker room

975
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: and we sought out vents and the coach wanted to

976
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: shake their hands like yo, congrats like that was that

977
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: was a good ass games.

978
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: Best game ever.

979
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: And after that, when this penalties were happening and the

980
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: Heisman trust stripped me the Heisman Trophy.

981
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 4: One of the things that they did was they.

982
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Went to Vince and they asked him if he wanted

983
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: the trophy, if he wanted I wanted the trophy, they

984
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: were going to take they know they did. They took

985
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: the trophy from me and they were going to give

986
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: it to Vents. So at this time period, Vince says

987
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: to the Heisman Trust, that's regist trophy and I'll never

988
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: forget that because you got to think, first of all,

989
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: he just beat us, so now he they're on top

990
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: of the world, you know, and they just took down

991
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: the number one team.

992
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 4: Great football game, like you said, one of the greatest

993
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 4: games ever.

994
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 1: He would have every right you know what I'm saying,

995
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: or in that moment, if he wanted to to be

996
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: like absolutely, you know what I'm saying.

997
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 4: We get that.

998
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: And I think that again, we talked about that respect,

999
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: in that bond that you create on that battlefield, on

1000
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: the football field.

1001
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: You can't break that.

1002
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: And there's no outside business people, no n C.

1003
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 4: Double A, you know, they won't understand.

1004
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: They won't understand that and shout out to Vince and

1005
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: that's my dog. A lot of respect for him, you know,

1006
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: not only as as a football player, but man, just

1007
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: as a man and for everything he stands for and

1008
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 1: for the decision that he made as a young kid,

1009
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: young twenty twenty one year old kid, to make that

1010
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: decision and to say that and to support me in

1011
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: that time, that mean every day to me.

1012
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: N IL.

1013
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: Right now, college football is heavy. Some of the top

1014
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 3: earners Shador Sanders, Travis Hunter, Archie Manning value between three

1015
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 3: to four million. With all due respect to those young stars,

1016
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 3: what a Reggie Bush had done at USC and Max Style,

1017
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: he would have took a pay cut to go to

1018
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 3: the NFL first. And for me, what kind of money

1019
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: you think you could have had in this nil era?

1020
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, man, being here in La in Hollywood

1021
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: at USC one of the most story programs, winning the

1022
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophies, national championships, it would have been It would

1023
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: have been amazing. I don't know if I would have

1024
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: been ready for it, you know, being that young and

1025
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: you know, having that much money or just having you know,

1026
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: money like that, you know, because also when you're that young,

1027
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen, you're not financially I'm not financially I.

1028
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 4: Get thinking about the league. I'm there you just spend

1029
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: it right away. You spend all of it seven senior.

1030
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: So you know, on one end, you know, obviously inn

1031
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: il is available to players now, but you know, I

1032
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: was also came to the NFL at time period where

1033
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: you got your money up front when you got your YA,

1034
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: and now they don't have that anymore because the the

1035
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: it's been slotted out, you know, towards veterans, and now

1036
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: you gotta go work towards getting your money, getting that

1037
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: big contract. And you know, when I came out, you

1038
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: got the big contract up front, and so you know,

1039
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's a different understanding. And I

1040
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: think that's why it also speaks to, you know, why

1041
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: playing running back now is even more tough because as

1042
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: a running back, you really, you know, the light span

1043
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: of running backs is.

1044
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: Really three to four years. War kind of you.

1045
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: The reward is not what everybody else getting no quarterbacks.

1046
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 4: Is getting close to guarantee.

1047
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: Basketball exactly, And so you got to think, as a

1048
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: running back, my career average three to four years, how

1049
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: am I gonna get a big contract out of that?

1050
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: You're not, So you go to spend those first three

1051
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: to four years just trying to get there and they're

1052
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna replace you right away, and so now.

1053
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's.

1054
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: Even worse for running backs because you trying to earn it,

1055
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: but you I was just stacked.

1056
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 4: Up against you, you know, even more. And so that's

1057
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 4: why you n I l is great. Now.

1058
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm happy they got it, but I'm also blessed that

1059
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: I came through a time period where I was, you know,

1060
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: taking care of upfront.

1061
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and.

1062
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: And I was smart with my money and saved it,

1063
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: and you know, now we're good. So I did my

1064
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: rookie contract was six years, and then I did a

1065
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: two year contract with the Dolphins after that four year

1066
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: deal with the with the Lions. But I only saw

1067
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: two years of that one year one year, Yeah, so

1068
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: what that's but only one of those was a big contract, Yeah, Firson,

1069
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: that was it. Yeah, the second contract was I didn't

1070
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: even see that this last two years.

1071
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 4: Yea. So they just they traded me or they released

1072
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 4: me after that. So really that's why I said I

1073
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 4: got my contract up front. That was where my big.

1074
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: Money came from.

1075
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 5: But when you got traded, did you feel like when

1076
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,479
Speaker 5: they start trading you a lot like did you feel

1077
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 5: like you was almost done?

1078
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 4: It was just what they were thinking. Hell no, I

1079
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 4: thought I had a lot left. It's normally like that.

1080
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: It's normally like that.

1081
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: So so basically what happened, you know, with my I had.

1082
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: I was on a six year contract, year five, you know,

1083
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: and what they do to you in the NFL is

1084
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: they backload your contract knowing that you're probably not gonna

1085
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:16,919
Speaker 1: see that last year.

1086
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 4: And so I never saw that last year in my contract.

1087
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: But you know, but but for me, you know, getting

1088
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, getting that money up front, like it's set

1089
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: me up, set me up for life, you know what

1090
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1091
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 4: And so again that's just why it's so much tougher

1092
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 4: for players.

1093
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: Now you got to go earn that money now and

1094
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: don't get hurt along the way trying to earn that money.

1095
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: That position.

1096
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 3: So we were thinking before just kind of a little

1097
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: fun thing, the top college star since the year two thousand.

1098
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 3: So we came up with you, Johnny Manziel, Caitlin Clark,

1099
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: Tim Tebow, John Wall, Zion, Cam Newton, injurw Reese, Mike

1100
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: Viggas or anyone else come to.

1101
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: Mind, top star since two thousand.

1102
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the two thousands, two thousand.

1103
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, put me because I'm thinking about ten

1104
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: of them as soon as I leave here.

1105
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: You put me on the spot. This is a question

1106
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 4: I needed before.

1107
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 3: Hey, y'all go down in the comments on this part too,

1108
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 3: and let us know who we're missing.

1109
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: You just heard our lists.

1110
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: Let me just give you my stars.

1111
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: They're not from two thousand, you know, just my favorite

1112
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: stars period.

1113
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 4: Barry Sanders, Prime Time.

1114
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: So Bury and Prime were the two guys I tried

1115
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: to emulate growing up. Those are two guys I wanted

1116
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: to be like. You know, obviously Bury for just how

1117
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: elusive he was, the cuts on the football field, and

1118
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: then the way Prime, the showmanship.

1119
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 4: He will go back return punts to get the crowd hype.

1120
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: And I try to take a little piece of all

1121
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: that and to molding to myself.

1122
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 4: Also another guy, Marshall falk.

1123
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: Eddie George in college was was a dog state.

1124
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1125
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely take a break, ye that the astext.

1126
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 4: Some dope jey.

1127
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: Jerseys, the red helmets, the red hillert with the strike

1128
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: one in the middle of the.

1129
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 4: Astext on the side fire Man who else?

1130
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: Peter Warwick was a guy man I used to love

1131
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: watching Peter and some man.

1132
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 4: I mean he he in college.

1133
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: I think there's nobody that could be better than Peter

1134
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: the way he's stopping the dime? Who else we missing?

1135
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: God?

1136
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: Remember a bunch of them soon as But yeah, man,

1137
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean those are you know, some of the guys

1138
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: that you know, I grew up watching and I idolized

1139
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: and I love, you know, you know, watching the way

1140
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: that they played the game. Lamar Jackson, Pat Mahomes and Mark.

1141
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 5: Jackson, rock Ismael Rocket he was big and don't today.

1142
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 4: Bro was huge, man, it was huge.

1143
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: He was he was.

1144
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, she would what was the Superstar used to come?

1145
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 2: You see Baron Superstar was.

1146
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: There shout out to see what that's my dog?

1147
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: You still get it in?

1148
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: See what we need some whiskey?

1149
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 4: Bro?

1150
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 5: Yeahs the Eye black you had six one nine on it.

1151
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 5: All the kids around the world started doing putting messages

1152
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 5: on the eye. Even t Bow took it farther, put

1153
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 5: the Bible Verse on it. You are a bigger part

1154
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 5: of the culture than just playing like swagging all that too.

1155
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 5: What you think about that? And then and and how

1156
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 5: that blew up? And then they ended up banning it

1157
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 5: right there. They ended up banning it because you were swagging.

1158
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 4: Exactly because they again, they don't want you to.

1159
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: Have They didn't created That's why they didn't monetize it.

1160
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: They can't monetize off it. They don't want you to

1161
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: have the power. They don't want you to understand that

1162
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: you can affect all these kids and the way they

1163
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: watched the game and the things that they want to do.

1164
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: You know, but you know, I loved, you know one,

1165
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: So the way that they kind of came about. So

1166
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: I started actually with writing my area code on my

1167
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: wrist take. And you know, you always as athletes, we

1168
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: always hear the narrative of don't forget where you come from, right,

1169
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 1: And so that was kind of my way of paying

1170
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: homage back to my hometown. And so I was writing

1171
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: it on my my wrist tape for a while, and

1172
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: I stopped wearing wrist tape and I started wearing EyeBlack.

1173
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 4: And one day.

1174
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Tino og Tino from He's our equipment guy came in

1175
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: and he was like, wrote he wrote the area.

1176
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 4: Code on it.

1177
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: He was like, once you try it out. I was like,

1178
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: you think. I was like, what you think?

1179
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 4: You think? It a little good?

1180
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: So we try that practice, all my teammates went crazy.

1181
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 4: I knew, I knew.

1182
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: I was like, you got something. So I started rocking

1183
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,959
Speaker 1: it in the games. And but yeah, this is before

1184
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: time period before anybody you know did that thought about that.

1185
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 4: And then for me, you know, I.

1186
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: Love the idea of having my city on my face

1187
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: or somewhere where I can show face mask because yeah,

1188
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's basketball players, y'all.

1189
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 4: It's different for y'all.

1190
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 1: Y'all don't wear helmets, so you know, people see y'all

1191
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 1: faces all the time.

1192
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: Players. I didn't even have my name on the back

1193
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 4: of my jersey. I think about that. I don't even

1194
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 4: have names on the back of our jerseys. So you

1195
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 4: think about that.

1196
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: Like they really want you to just blend, Like they

1197
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: really don't want you to stand out, So you got

1198
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: to do different things like that to standouts.

1199
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: I feel like game was different from running back to

1200
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 4: your placement. He was like a hooper around the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1201
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 4: you know it was you.

1202
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: Know, I've always uh, like I said, I watched a

1203
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: lot of the Sanders, and I feel like a lot

1204
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: of that came from him, watching his swag, watching his

1205
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: style on the football field, the way that he would

1206
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: create his own, you know, persona. He had his own

1207
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: persona and it was very different and it stood out

1208
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: from anybody else. And I always wanted to stand out

1209
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: with the way that I played the game and even

1210
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: the way that I.

1211
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: Looked on the football field.

1212
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: And I always wanted to make sure my uniform had

1213
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: to be clean. I always had to have a towel

1214
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: hanging out, and that that really came from watching guys

1215
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: like again like Prime, like Marshall Falk. And then you know,

1216
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: the socks always had to be about calf high, and

1217
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: that came from Marshall Falk. So Marshall would always wear

1218
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: his socks high. And so you know it's it's you know,

1219
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: you when you when you grow up and you watch

1220
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: these sportsmen, you take a little piece from all these

1221
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: guys that you idolize. And so I took a little

1222
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: piece from these guys. And when you when you again

1223
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: the pump returns getting the crowd hype, I took that

1224
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: from Prime.

1225
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 4: The socks, I got that from Marshall Falk. The towel

1226
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: probably from Prime too, you know what I'm saying.

1227
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: And so you know, you you take a lot of

1228
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: these pieces from these guys and you kind of mold

1229
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: them into into who you are and always wanted to

1230
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: be different on the football field, and so that's why

1231
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: you would see me jump over guys, flip over guys

1232
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: behind the back, whatever I had to do to get

1233
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: to that end zone. You know, it was you know,

1234
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: for me, it was it was more than just a game.

1235
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: It was about life and it was about you know,

1236
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: I got to get to this next level.

1237
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 4: I got to get to being able to take.

1238
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: Care of my mom, my dad, and my brothers, like

1239
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: because I want them to see the fruits of my

1240
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: labor as well.

1241
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 5: When I say that it was forty six NFL players

1242
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 5: in that game.

1243
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 4: Yep, well what did you think about that?

1244
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 5: It's crazy, you know, because that's that's basically you got

1245
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 5: two NFL teams playing in the College Championship right now exactly.

1246
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 1: And you know it was I mean, obviously, when we

1247
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: think about that game, you think about just the last

1248
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: couple of seconds, you know, Vince scoring a touchdown, and

1249
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: that's what kind of game it was.

1250
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: It was a fest.

1251
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: It was a slug fest. It's back and forth. It's

1252
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: we can't get up from this TV right now. We

1253
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: got to sit here and watch every single play, you know,

1254
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: and that and that's the way that the game also

1255
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: played out obviously on the football field, and you know,

1256
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: it was it was even crazier to be a part

1257
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: of it in person, because you know, we were up by.

1258
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 4: Two touchdowns start halftime. Yeah, we were up.

1259
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: By two touchdowns at halftime even you know, with everything

1260
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: that was going on, and it was such a back

1261
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: and forth game, and you know, Vince just took over,

1262
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, in that second half, and that obviously ended

1263
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: up being a difference.

1264
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 4: Man.

1265
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: But you know, having that many future NFL players on

1266
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: one football field at the same time, that may never

1267
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: happen again, right, We may never see that again because

1268
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: again you think about the trans reporters n i l

1269
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: S players now to get paid. It's a different ball

1270
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: game though.

1271
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 5: You Lyndale White and Charles Charles Jamal a hometown y'all

1272
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 5: all on the field the same time the game.

1273
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: That's crazy, Vin's.

1274
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, But but yeah, you know, being a part

1275
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: of those games, man, you know, as y'all as yah.

1276
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 4: Know, those are some games that you'll never forget.

1277
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: You never forget those games that you know, even if

1278
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: you lost it in the last second, you never forget

1279
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: those close battles where you was dog tired after the

1280
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: game and you fought tooth and nail, you did everything

1281
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: you could.

1282
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 4: Mm. You know those are the games that that really

1283
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 4: build you up on the inside. Uh speak of uh

1284
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 4: Sean Payton. Yeah. You know a lot of people got

1285
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 4: they different opinions of Sean Payton.

1286
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 5: You know, after some people say he's a jerk, so

1287
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 5: a lot of people say he's a great coach everywhere go.

1288
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 5: He finds the ways to find ways to win. You

1289
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 5: had nearly a hundred receptions your rookie year, five hundred

1290
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 5: and sixty five rushing yards.

1291
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 4: I wasn't how I was my rookie year.

1292
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: I hated Sean really I did. I really did. And

1293
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: drill sergeant, and you know, I have a lot of

1294
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: love and respect from now, but at that time period,

1295
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, you got also understand I I got drafted

1296
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: t five months after Hurricane Katrina. So we went to

1297
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: a team that was literally depleted literally no energy, no culture,

1298
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: no nothing.

1299
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 4: We had to.

1300
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: Infuse all of that that first year there together.

1301
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 4: And I Shawn's first draft pick.

1302
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: You know, so I l I was obviously more than

1303
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: happy to be there on the team. But Sean was

1304
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: a disciplinarian, you know, and he had a job to

1305
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: do at the time, and so I didn't understand, you.

1306
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 4: Know, as as much because again, Sean liked to Yale.

1307
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: I didn't like coaches that liked the Yale. So if

1308
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: you're coach that liked to Yale, it was already like

1309
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: an issue for me because I always felt like, you know,

1310
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: there's a different way you could talk to guys. But

1311
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: but again, also you know, Sean was hit with this

1312
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 1: significant responsibility to completely turn this organization around. I think

1313
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: the year before they didn't win a single football game,

1314
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: and so we're going from nothing, building something, you know,

1315
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: from from literally from scratch, and we all, i think

1316
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: felt the pressure at that time period, players included, you know,

1317
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: especially me, because you know, I'm coming in as the

1318
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: highly regarded athlete that's supposed to help bring you know,

1319
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: winning back to the city the displaced at the time. Yeah, no,

1320
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: we didn't have a we didn't Yeah, so training camp,

1321
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: uh first four uh games of the season five games

1322
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: this season, Uh.

1323
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 4: We were in we lived in Mississippi, yeah, yeah, and.

1324
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: So we didn't have a home stadium because they were

1325
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 1: still you know, rebuilding a stadium from the flooded, a

1326
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: lot of devastation that happened in the city, you know,

1327
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: So you know, we we you know, there was a

1328
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on us and Drew Brees. I don't

1329
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: know if you remember, he's coming off a major shoulder injury,

1330
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: basically toward his shoulder up the year.

1331
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 2: Before coming to there.

1332
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 4: He's coming there.

1333
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they still he was coming into a situation where

1334
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: nobody knew what he was gonna be, if he was

1335
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: ever gonna get back to who he was. I'm coming

1336
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 1: into this team being labeled a cheat, her and dealing

1337
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: with the double A pressures of that, and now all

1338
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: of a sudden, here's an entire city that needs you

1339
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: to help restore hope and face, you know, to the

1340
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: city through playing football, and so you know, we all

1341
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: had a job to do, you know. And at that

1342
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: time period, again, like I said, I hated Sean because

1343
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: of how.

1344
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 4: Much he yelled.

1345
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: But then as we started to progress through the next

1346
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: few years and we started to see the work payoffs, yeah,

1347
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:20,919
Speaker 1: you know, we developed a very close bond and now

1348
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: to this day Sean is one of my you know,

1349
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: one of my good friends. But you know, there was

1350
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 1: a time period where I like, strongly disliked this dude.

1351
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1352
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if you guys ever

1353
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: had that coach before, you know, that coach that yells

1354
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: a lot, and you know, for me, you know, I

1355
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: was just one of those guys where I did not

1356
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: like coaches that yelled, you know.

1357
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 4: But Sean is he's a good coach. So let me

1358
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 4: tell you crazy something crazy about you talk about Katrina. Yeah,

1359
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 4: a five hour drive.

1360
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 5: Doing a regular five hour drive doing Katrina, that drive

1361
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 5: from New Orleans to Texas, it was twenty six hours. Yeah,

1362
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 5: that's how bad the traffic was. It's normally five hours.

1363
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 5: It took people twenty six hours to get there. That

1364
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 5: was crazy.

1365
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: It was a or it was such a crazy time period,

1366
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: you know, Oh my god. I mean there was d

1367
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: y when I when I first landed, when they drafted me,

1368
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: they took me on a tour through the ninth ward

1369
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: and there were.

1370
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 4: Still houses, dead bodies that had uh s.

1371
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: What on the outside of the house was a number

1372
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: spray painting on the house with a circle around the people.

1373
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: How many people were dead bodies they found in their house?

1374
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: And so I'm getting drafted, and I'm taking a tour

1375
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: through all of this.

1376
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 4: I'm coming from.

1377
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: La mm from Hollywood, you know, from this you know, y,

1378
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: it's very different here obviously than when you were other places, right,

1379
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: And so you know, for me going to being thrust

1380
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: it into that situation, I right away felt the sense

1381
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: of responsibility, but I also felt the pressure too. Yeah,

1382
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: And so that first year, you know, I think, you know,

1383
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: all of the pressure, you know, I felt like was

1384
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 1: was on my shoulders to to go and win football games,

1385
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: to restore hope in the city.

1386
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 4: And we did that.

1387
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,439
Speaker 1: So you know, after that first year, like I said,

1388
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: that's when me and Sean really started to I felt

1389
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: like our our relationship improved and I started to see

1390
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: the vision, the purpose. And then a couple of years later,

1391
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: we won a super Bowl, you know. But I had

1392
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 1: to fight through two years of injuries before we won

1393
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: that super Bowl, and so you know, it was a

1394
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: very rocky start, I think to my career because my

1395
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: first year a lot of success, second year on the

1396
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: shelf injured, third year microfracture surgery, fourth year win a

1397
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: super Bowl, you know, and so when you talk about

1398
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: just I think fighting through those mental battles and those

1399
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: mental hurdles and of winning and the pressures of that.

1400
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 4: When you get injured, it throws everything off.

1401
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: How was that, mic, Cause I know on the basketball side,

1402
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: microfractory guys never are the same. Yeah, Kmark J. Kidd

1403
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 3: had numbers like a lot a lot of guys. How

1404
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,439
Speaker 3: was that on the football cycle you got a different kind.

1405
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 1: Of The doctors told me that I probably had at

1406
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: that time period after the surgery, they told me I

1407
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: probably had like two years left to pay and and

1408
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: so I never forget laying in the hospital bed and hearing,

1409
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 1: you know, the doctors come in and it was like, yes,

1410
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: herser went great, you know, you probably got you know

1411
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: another year, two three, max, you know, to play in

1412
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 1: the league. I ended up playing another six. But it

1413
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: was tough because the year we won a Super Bowl

1414
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: my fourth year, pretty much before every game I was

1415
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: getting knee drained. And I was also you all, we

1416
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: also have to take toward all shots shots just to

1417
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: be able to get through the pain, you know, And

1418
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: so there's it was a lot, man, and just I

1419
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: think the constant swelling of my knee and getting it dreamed.

1420
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: That was the roughest part. Because you know, once you

1421
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: get it drained ship, it hurts.

1422
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 4: It hurts, like hell, what to do I'll do for you?

1423
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 4: Didn't make you did? Did?

1424
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: Did it go away?

1425
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 3: Or do You still felt a little bit of pain

1426
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 3: with that, because that toward all was superhuman.

1427
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: For it worked for about the first half, and then

1428
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: that second half you like right back, you know, right

1429
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: back to that pain.

1430
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 4: Some people double up, yeah really yeah.

1431
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 1: Some people first before the game and then that halfter

1432
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: another one hafter, and so I had to do that

1433
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: a few times as well, just because again you know

1434
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 1: the pain of getting hit and getting tackled on that

1435
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: knee and it's just not as strong. You're fighting through

1436
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: these injuries, and it's getting swollen after every game, and

1437
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: then you get on planes getting more swollen. You know,

1438
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: it was it was definitely tough.

1439
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: The lawsuit when you slipped in the stadium with the rams.

1440
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 2: What happened.

1441
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 4: So I was returning the punt.

1442
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: I was playing for the forty nine ers at this time,

1443
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: and I'm running to the tie line and as I'm

1444
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: running out of bounds, I'm running full speed. I get pushed,

1445
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: so now I'm going even faster, and about it felt

1446
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: like about five yards from the out of bounds was

1447
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 1: a concrete surface that was slippery as hell. As soon

1448
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: as I stepped on it, my feet went from underneath.

1449
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 4: Me slipped toward my ladder moniscus.

1450
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: I was in your bad knee, already.

1451
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: On my bad knee. So that pretty much ended my

1452
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: career and that was year ten. I ended up getting

1453
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: another year out of, you know, playing another year, which

1454
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: I really didn't do much, but I was in Buffalo

1455
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: for a year.

1456
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 4: But that pretty much ended.

1457
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: My career because I was already you know, again, it's

1458
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: already the knee that I had been through a lot

1459
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: of injuries with, and then going through that situation of

1460
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: slipping and falling and tearing it again, I kind of

1461
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: knew and I never forget. I'll sit in the locker

1462
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: room when you know, the doctors and we went and

1463
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: got X rays and they were like, yeah, there's probably

1464
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: something torn. I remember that at that moment, I was like, yeah,

1465
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 1: I think my career is probably you know what I'm saying,

1466
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 1: because it's just I'm already year ten and I'm playing

1467
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: running back.

1468
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 4: They're already trying to replace me. It was tough going

1469
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 4: through that.

1470
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to end their career like that, right, you

1471
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: want to walk out on your own terms.

1472
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 4: But you know, unfortunately it didn't end like that for me.

1473
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: But you know, I I went through a lawsuit with

1474
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: the RAM and uh, you know, we want a lawsuit.

1475
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's crazy.

1476
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: That's kind of a hard way to go out. It

1477
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: is not on your terms.

1478
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 3: Your transition post career, You transitioned into media. Uh what

1479
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 3: got you into that? And how have you enjoyed that?

1480
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: I always knew that, you know, doing TV, some kind

1481
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 1: of form of being an analyst broadcasting was was gonna

1482
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: be the next easiest transition for me, and you know,

1483
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to do it until I figured out, you know,

1484
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: what was gonna be that next big thing for me,

1485
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: because again I had to I had to get a

1486
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 1: job at the pay some bills and take care of

1487
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: my family still. And so I had a lot of

1488
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: relationships that I built while I was playing football, and

1489
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 1: so I would go into Fox, uh NFL Network, some

1490
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: of these other networks and I would do shows. But yeah,

1491
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: so I, uh, the transition for me, you know, I

1492
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: always knew that I was gonna step right into you know,

1493
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: doing some kind of TV work, whether that was being

1494
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: an analyst or whatever that is. And so you know,

1495
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: I would do shows while I was playing to try

1496
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: to build those relationships early on. So that way, once

1497
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: I retired, I already had a relationship. I was already

1498
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: locked in. I already had my people. And so I

1499
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,759
Speaker 1: stepped writing in an NFL network and so I started

1500
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 1: doing NFL network.

1501
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 4: I think I did that for about three four years.

1502
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: I did Thursday Night Football with Smedy and with Erv

1503
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: for for about two years, so that was fun. And

1504
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: I transitioned from there over to Fox. We were doing

1505
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: a college football show, Big New Kickoff, and I enjoyed that,

1506
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, I really enjoyed and I didn't think I

1507
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: was gonna like it because you know, when Fox initially

1508
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: came to me, I was like, why would I go

1509
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: back to college football? You know what I'm saying, After

1510
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: everything I've been through, you know, why would I step

1511
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: back into this environment where you know, there's a ton of.

1512
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 4: Just pain and trauma.

1513
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: And they convinced me, you know, to do it, and

1514
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: they wanted to build a show around me, which you

1515
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: know gave me some confidence, and you know, we did

1516
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: it for a couple of years. We got to the

1517
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: point where you know, there are ratings were competing with

1518
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 1: ESPN game Days, College Game Day, and when you think

1519
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: about that, you know, College game Day is a godfather

1520
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 1: love all this.

1521
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 4: You know, we talk about college football, college basketball. They

1522
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 4: basically created it.

1523
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 1: And so for us to be able to compete with

1524
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: those numbers in our first three four years of inception

1525
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: was great and was big, and so I since I've

1526
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: stepped away from it because I wanted.

1527
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 4: To focus on my own projects and one of.

1528
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: Those projects is documentary also this lawsuit. You know, when

1529
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: they saibl A, I wanted to go back and get

1530
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: my Heisman Trophy and I just had things that I

1531
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: needed to go get done. And I felt like if

1532
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: I didn't put the time and the focus and the

1533
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: effort into it, then it wasn't gonna get done, or

1534
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: it would just get drug out another you know, five

1535
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: to ten years. And so that's kind of where I'm

1536
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: at right now. Man, It's just working on my own

1537
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: projects and and things that you know, I want to do.

1538
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: Talk to us how you picked up golf and how

1539
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: much you're enjoying that.

1540
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: Man, You know, golf is has really helped me in

1541
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Because again, I can't play football

1542
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: at high level anymore. I don't really have that arena

1543
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 1: where I can go compete anymore. But you know, there's

1544
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: competition on the golf course, right and you host your

1545
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: own charity golf trman every year, and you understand what.

1546
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 4: It's like to hit that perfect golf shot.

1547
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: Right when you hit that one good golf shot, it

1548
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 1: takes one bad one that takes that one, and it

1549
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: just captures you, you know. And so I found the sport,

1550
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, through my teammates. We were playing, competing, talking trash,

1551
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 1: betting money, and you know, it right away captured me.

1552
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: And I think there's also something about you know, being

1553
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: on the grass too. You know, for me, its just

1554
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: it speaks to me. It speaks to it speaks.

1555
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 4: To my spirit.

1556
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 1: And so golf has really given me something to uh.

1557
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: You know, I always feel like when when we retire,

1558
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, from our sports, you know, you we go

1559
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: through this period of you know, who am I now?

1560
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 4: You know? What am I gonna be?

1561
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do now? N you know, I'm

1562
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: still young enough to be an athlete, butad of you,

1563
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:04,639
Speaker 1: but I can't.

1564
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 4: I can't play that sport anymore.

1565
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: And so golf has really given me an opportunity to

1566
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 1: be the athlete still. And so I play a lot

1567
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: of golf, you know, I I my I trained my kids,

1568
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, I coached them in golf. You know, we

1569
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: have our days per week every Tuesday we go out

1570
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: when golf. We'll go to Balboa golf Course, yup, and

1571
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: just you know, mess around and play golf.

1572
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 4: You know.

1573
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 1: But it's it's been amazing. It's been it really has.

1574
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: It's been amazing for me.

1575
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 2: Talk to us about what you're wearing, this this this partnership.

1576
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. Man.

1577
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 2: So by the way, I'm an excel but go ahead

1578
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 2: ya yeah, thanks too.

1579
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: So you know, we talking about golf and my passion,

1580
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: my love for golf, and you know, I've been focused

1581
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: on building a lot of business in golf, and one

1582
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: of those is in the fashion industry.

1583
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 4: And and so I've I got a.

1584
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: Chance to link up with Travis Matthew, which is a

1585
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: brand that's f focused in golf, and I think, you know,

1586
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: it organically started from there. They have ah a love

1587
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: and a passion for golf, and so do I. And

1588
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: I saw a space where I felt like I can

1589
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: offer you.

1590
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 4: Know, some uh some design.

1591
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: You know. I want to be able to design my

1592
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: own clothes and design, you know, my own golf clothing.

1593
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: And so Travismanth gave me the opportunity and it's been awesome,

1594
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: man so far. So this jacket has been one of

1595
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: the top sellers right now for Travis Matthew. We designed this,

1596
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: you see, you know, and my whole goal, you know,

1597
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: with our outfits is to design outfits, and so I

1598
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: want to take all the thinking out of it for you.

1599
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: You see, we got the jacket, the pants, there's also

1600
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,799
Speaker 1: a hat to match, got a shirt to match it exactly.

1601
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: We go shopping. We want simplicity, all right. We want

1602
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: to be there for three or four hours looking around.

1603
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: You know, my wife liked doing that. She like shopping,

1604
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: to be there for hours.

1605
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 4: I want to go in there, I see outfit, Yeah,

1606
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,440
Speaker 4: let me get that right there. I'm done.

1607
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: And you know it really is it's taking that mindset

1608
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: of you know, let's simplify this thing. You know, for

1609
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 1: men and especially guys on the golf course. We should

1610
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: also want to look good on the golf course as well, right,

1611
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: and I see too many guys that look horrible on

1612
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 1: a golf course, no style, no fashion, no sense or nothing,

1613
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: no swag, And you know, I want to I want

1614
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: to build that man.

1615
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 4: And so I felt like that was a space where

1616
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 4: I could create.

1617
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: And uh so this is the first drop.

1618
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:27,520
Speaker 4: We got some new fire.

1619
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 1: Stuff coming out though in September. Let me make sure

1620
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: I get all your size on the.

1621
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 4: Golf course eights.

1622
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: Yes, don't even play I look out there.

1623
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 3: But also too, I mean obviously something you may not

1624
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 3: want to touch on, but the obvious thing is just

1625
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: that the explosion in black golf again, yes, and kind

1626
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 3: of crossing that brand over into that genre.

1627
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 4: Yes, that's huge, That's that's huge.

1628
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: You know, you see all so many athletes right football, basketball, baseball, hockey, soccer,

1629
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: you know, athletes playing golf at a high level. You know,

1630
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 1: I played in the Americans the American Century Golf Tournament.

1631
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: Every beer in Lake Tahoe, and that one is filled

1632
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: with just who's who, Who's who right the top of

1633
01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: retired to current you know athletes.

1634
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 4: You know, Steph Curry played lights out last year.

1635
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean this guy hit a hole in one I

1636
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: cann't and he had that crazy yeah yeah he and

1637
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 1: seeing you know guys like that you know, guys like him,

1638
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's you know, was probably one of the first,

1639
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 1: you know, big name athletes to to to.

1640
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 4: Really step into golf games. Exactly.

1641
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: That's crazy, bro, that's crazy.

1642
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 1: To go play thirty six drinker most cigarsping McDonald's.

1643
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's crazy.

1644
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 1: And go ball out.

1645
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1646
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 2: What's your handicap right now?

1647
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: I'm now four point five.

1648
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 2: Serious, I'm working.

1649
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 4: I'm working on it. You know, I want to get

1650
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 4: down to a scratch. That's my goal.

1651
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: And and again I want to I want to. Like

1652
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: you said, you know, there's there's more, you know, black

1653
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: athletes and people of color that are playing golf now

1654
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: more than ever, More than ever. Golf is at its

1655
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: peak as far as you know, the amount of people

1656
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: that are playing the sport. Even since COVID the number

1657
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: went up even more.

1658
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 4: Because of that time.

1659
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: Period, we were forced to social distance, and golf was

1660
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 1: only sports social distance.

1661
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1662
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 1: You can get out, you can be away from people

1663
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 1: you hit your shot, you know.

1664
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

1665
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 1: And and so we've seen the sport.

1666
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 4: Really grow over these last few years.

1667
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 1: And I just love the fact that there's so much

1668
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: so much more of us on the golf course because

1669
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 1: we play golf different.

1670
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 4: We talked ship money.

1671
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 1: Let you know.

1672
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 3: Let you know, if you hit a bad shot, we're

1673
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 3: gonna have.

1674
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And and and that's what

1675
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: I love about our culture and the way that we

1676
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: do golf is we.

1677
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 4: Do everything different.

1678
01:17:58,680 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: We do everything with more style.

1679
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we do.

1680
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: We bring styles. Yeah. So that's all I want to do, man,

1681
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 4: I want to bring some style to the golf. I

1682
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 4: love it. I love it.

1683
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: Quick hit is man. First team to come to mind.

1684
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 2: Let us know.

1685
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 4: Top five running backs in the NFL right now.

1686
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: All right, so let's start with Christian McCaffrey. Okay, let's

1687
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: start with him. Be balling out right, gang.

1688
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 4: See.

1689
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: I still I think Sequon is gonna ball out this year.

1690
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 4: I do.

1691
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: I think with the Philadelphia Eagles this year, I think

1692
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 1: Saquon is gonna have a year because you match him

1693
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: up with a dual threat quarterback like Jalen Hurts, and

1694
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: that's just.

1695
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 4: Gonna open up everything.

1696
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: Fill the box on him. No more.

1697
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: Three I'm gonna say, Jonathan Taylor, and this is you know,

1698
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't have this particular order

1699
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm just naming the running backs.

1700
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 4: But Jonathan Taylor, young guy.

1701
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: Got to know when I was doing the College Football Show,

1702
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: got to interview him earlier. I watched him a lot

1703
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 1: in college, and I loved his run game. I loved

1704
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 1: how physical he plays the game, how decisive he is

1705
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: as a running back. Is one cut and he's getting

1706
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: up the field for the Colts. For the Colts up

1707
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,839
Speaker 1: John Ta Taylor. So he's another good one. Josh Jacobs

1708
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: with Oakland Raiders.

1709
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 4: Or Veders, the Las Vegas Raiders. But yeah, Josh Jacobs

1710
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 4: is a beast man. But he's in Green Bay now.

1711
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: Josh, He's in Green Bay now.

1712
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 4: So he's in Green Bay now.

1713
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see how that plays out for

1714
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: him in Green Bay.

1715
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 5: Jones went to the Detroit There's another one too, a

1716
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 5: bigger one, dude.

1717
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, like skin guy. Yeah, I like to

1718
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 4: talking about Yeah, how many is that? Four? Yeah?

1719
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 1: Four? Josh Jacobs.

1720
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 4: Cole's Christian McCaffrey. I said, Kwan, I'm I think Derek

1721
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 4: Henry is gonna have a year this year.

1722
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: I think I really do with that. And he's got

1723
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: something that he's never had before with Lamar Jackson. And

1724
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: you know, Lamar Jackson, he's used to having a good

1725
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: run game. You know what I'm saying. He used to

1726
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 1: used to have a good run backs. But you know,

1727
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:02,480
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry.

1728
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 4: Is a different beast, you a different breed, bro.

1729
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: And you give him that kind of space that again

1730
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: they playing space. You can't one running one of the

1731
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: linebackers not gonna stop him, right, you know.

1732
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

1733
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna be pick your poison. And I

1734
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: love seeing him team up with the Lamar Jackson. So

1735
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: those are my top running backs that I think are

1736
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna play well this year.

1737
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 2: One album, no skips.

1738
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 4: Oh damn, okay, this that's hard bro.

1739
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: One album, no skips. I gotta take it back to Park,

1740
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. I gotta take it back to Park. If

1741
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna one album no skips.

1742
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gotta be a what's your guilty pleasure? Okay.

1743
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: The strawberry ice cream strawberry ice First of all, I

1744
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 1: wasn't a big, big sweet guy. But I don't know

1745
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: if it's like when you get older and it just

1746
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: somehow hits you at some certain.

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01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 4: Easy to get.

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01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: To eat them as much I've been smashing this strawberry

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01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:09,799
Speaker 1: ice cream from Oh my god, it's a spot called uh,

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01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: I can't think of the name of it right now,

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01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: but it's a strawberry balsamic viniagarette ice cream.

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01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 4: What really salt and straw So you knew it.

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 1: You go to some straw strawberry strawberry?

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01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:28,879
Speaker 4: What what.

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01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: Strawberry balsamic vineigarette is it?

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01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,760
Speaker 4: And know they had this ice cream? We got to

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01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 4: pull up there.

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01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 1: Actually kind of mad they got rich they had this

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01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: ice cream.

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01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 4: It was a bowberry.

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01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 1: It's a strawberry ice cream with banana bread inside of it.

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01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 4: Off that sounds right to me? Won't ice cream is wrong?

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01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to be like so this is what

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01:21:58,880 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 4: I knew.

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01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 1: I get the strawberry and then I go to the

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01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 1: grocery store and I get some banana bread and I

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01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: mix it up with the with the man of last.

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01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 4: That's my pleasure.

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01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 2: Three pounds, right, I want to pull up one thing.

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01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: You wish you were better.

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01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 1: At one thing? I wish I was better at tennis.

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01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 1: I wish I was better at tennis because right now

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01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: my daughter is a beast and I can't hang with

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01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 1: who get right there? She's nice on the tennis court.

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01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: And you know, tennis is a sport I picked up

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01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: with my daughter. I've always watched it, been a fan

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01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: from a distance, but now that I started playing it,

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01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: I fell in love with it. And you know, just

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01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 1: the the the bank. You know, there's just so much

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01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: that goes into the game and swinging the tennis rack,

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01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 1: getting backhand, forehand, top spin, you know, all these different things,

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01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 1: serving the ball.

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01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: Well, now I'm playing tennis, I'm like, I don't like fickerball.

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01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because it's like, yeah, it's like a short rifle.

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01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: But ping pong table tennis, that's my game. And we

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01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 1: had that in the locker room everywhere. I'm sure y'all

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01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: had it too.

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01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 5: I didn't play it though, I'm not good, but I

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01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 5: played it.

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01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 4: I'm not good though.

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01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 5: One guess, if you could see one guest on our show,

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01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 5: who would it be?

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01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 4: But you have to help us get your answer on

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 4: the show, okay, uh.

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01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 3: I feel like Reggie is Good would be one of

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01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 3: the guests that will help us.

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01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: I mean, but I feel like you're already gonna have

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01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: you already gonna know this.

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01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 4: I feel like you got here, snoop, We already a

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01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 4: couple of times.

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01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, he said, A couple of names, A couple of.

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01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 1: Names, Alex, Yeah, what about Matt get Matt here, Lindell.

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01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 4: Even PC, PC, p uhc if you dope? Who else? Great?

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01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: PC talk on DMS every once in a while. He's

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01:23:58,040 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: still in the l A.

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01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: I think he's okay.

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01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 4: But another guy I played with I think.

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01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: Would be great Calvin Johnson. Oh yeah, CJ would be

1810
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: great and I played, uh Calvin in my opinion is

1811
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: he's the best receiver I ever played with. M Yeah,

1812
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: but you see this dude play in person. He's same

1813
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: height as you guys, but he runs a.

1814
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 4: Four to three ye four four months.

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01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 1: And when he jumps for the football, ain't nobody. I mean,

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01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: we we played uh one game against the Bengals and

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01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: hopefully get y'all can go back and look this play up.

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01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: It should be on YouTube or something like that. Stafford,

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01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: I was with the Lions. Stafford literally launched the ball

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01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 1: up in the air. It's three defenders around him, three

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01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 1: people around him, the safety, two corners.

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01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 4: He jumps up, snagged the ball right over the top

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01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 4: of him, and I was like, I think earlier, I

1824
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 4: think I saw something on the ground wheel was like

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01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 4: they shouldn't. It was like fucking Calvin down there somewhere,

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 4: down there, somewhere, he down there somewhere, And but playing

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01:24:59,040 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 4: with this dude.

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01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: Man, it was a treat for me because you know,

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01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: I had never played with receiver for one that big,

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01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 1: that tall, but also that was also that athletic and

1831
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: that can do so many different things. You know, it

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01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: was fast and it was just you know, he was

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01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: I think to this day, one of only receivers that

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01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 1: was literally.

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01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 4: Getting double team off the line.

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01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: They was playing him like it was a punt, double

1837
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: team and off the line, Like that's crazy to say

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01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 1: that were going jam double team, jam.

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01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: Guy and everybody else.

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01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and let anybody else he'll still do it.

1841
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 4: And he was off the tree.

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01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: Dog.

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01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 4: That's dog, Reggie man. We appreciate you.

1844
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm glad that you're you know, you're coming out and

1845
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 3: and and speaking your truths and and and righting the

1846
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 3: wrongs that have been done to you because for so long,

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01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 3: like you said, you let that ship kind of just go.

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01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're happy to hear that you're you know,

1849
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: things are going well with the production company.

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01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,759
Speaker 7: We didn't mention docs coming that's gonna be fire.

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01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 4: Whatever you want to do a I'm gonna.

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01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: Show y'all uh not on camera, but I'll show y'all

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01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: the real Yeah. I try to see that, but it's

1854
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: gonna be fire. Man all y'all in the world.

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01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 5: That was not Reggie and Boars in the Hood. Okay,

1856
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 5: I thought it was in for a long time. It

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01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 5: was not Reggie, and the dude had him a five.

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01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 2: I think, Man, well that's a rat, Reggie Bush.

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01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 3: You can catch this on the All the Smoke Productions

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01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 3: YouTube and the DraftKings Network.

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01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 2: Man, we'll see y'all next week.