1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,039 Speaker 1: Welcome back in final our juneteenth edition of the program. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: I know most of you are probably working as am I. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: We will have Joey Jones join us at the bottom 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: of the hour. We appreciate all of you hanging out 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: with us as we are rolling through this Thursday edition 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: of the program. A lot of different stories out there. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: In particular, we just hit you with the latest breaking 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: news on Iran and the decisions that President Trump must make. 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Via Caroline Levitt, he announced that he would give two 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: weeks potentially to Inran to come to the negotiating table. 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: God that news just coming down the last thirty minutes 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: or so. Here's my analysis in general of this, and Trump, obviously, 13 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: for much of his life, has been a professional negotiator, 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: so I'm sure he is analyzing this in his own 15 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: way as well. How can you trust Iran in any 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: way not to do what is in their best interests 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Let me explain what I mean by that Kim Jong 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: un has nuclear weapons in North Korea. It would be 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: far better if he did not have nuclear weapons in 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: North Korea, but his decision to get them, while he 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: may be a crazy despot, was eminently rational, and that 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: decision was based on this. Once you have nuclear weapons, 23 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: the ability of any other country, given the risk that 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: it would entail, to ever overthrow you, is minimal. So 25 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: if your goal is to maintain power above all else, 26 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: the lesson of Kim Jong un is actually a good 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: one from a negotiating perspective. And it is this, people 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: who are tyrants can still behave rationally when it comes 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: to obtaining the best possible weapons which allow their tyranny 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: to continue. Why would Iran give up the pursuit of 31 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons when the pursuit of nuclear your weapons guarantees 32 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: that the people in control of Iran, the authoritarian moled dictators, 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: will remain in control forever. That's the That's the ultimate 34 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: question that I can't get past. And if I'm missing something, 35 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: you can call in, you can give me a talkback, 36 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: you can explain the negotiating lever here that I am missing. 37 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and two eighty two two eight eight two 38 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: eighty percent of Americans say we don't want Iran to 39 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: get a nuclear weapon. That's huge majorities of Democrats, Republicans, 40 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: and independents. It is actually a bipartisan agreement by and large. 41 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 1: If you are in that eighty percent, which I am. 42 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: I don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons. I think 43 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: it makes the world less safe. I think it makes 44 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: us less safe. I think it makes a disastrous world 45 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: war predicated on nuclear weapon exchange of fire far more likely. 46 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: So I'm in that eighty percent. I would imagine most 47 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: of the rest of you are. Now, for the twenty 48 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: percent of you, I don't even know what you're thinking. 49 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: How do you not care if Iran gets nuclear weapons? Oh, 50 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't care if a crazy religious despot has the 51 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: ability to push a button and kill tens of millions 52 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: of people. The only thing I can think of those 53 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: twenty percent that are adopting that perspective, that's twenty percent 54 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: of Democrats, twenty percent of Republicans, twenty percent of independence 55 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: is you don't believe that Iran is actually trying to 56 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: get nuclear weapons because the idea of hey, I don't 57 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: care if Iran has nuclear weapons, it doesn't make sense 58 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: to me because it's not a rational decision. Now, maybe 59 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm missing something. You can make the argument for what 60 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm missing. Oh, I don't care if Iran blows up Israel, Clay, 61 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: that seems like a bad decision because Israel has nuclear weapons, 62 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: and if Iran fires nuclear weapons at Israel, than Israel's 63 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: definitely going to fire nuclear weapons in Iran. And for 64 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: those of you out there say, well, Iran would never 65 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: use them, well, are you really willing to risk that? 66 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: These are people who want to destroy America, who chant 67 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: death to America at every opportunity, who consider us to 68 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: be the great Satan. I don't think they're lying about that. 69 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't think they're that fond of us, meaning the leadership. 70 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: I think the individual citizens of Iran, many of whom 71 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: are young, are actually quite fond of America and the West, 72 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: and like our music and like our movies and all 73 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: those things. That's a different story. That's why I think 74 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: if the Ayatolas were removed that we might well end 75 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: up with far better leadership in Iran. And frankly, I 76 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: don't think we would end up with worse leadership, because 77 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: I don't think we could have a worse situation in 78 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Iran than what we have right now. So if you 79 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: believe as I do, that it is imminently rational even 80 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: for a regime that is committed to a religious fundamentalism 81 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: of a Muslim nature, right, these are people that would 82 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: be very happy to clement as many terror attacks in 83 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: the United States and Israel and any other Western civilization 84 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: around the world as they could pull off. That's what 85 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: they tried to fund with Hamas and Hesbela and Syria. 86 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: That's what they've spent generations attempting to do. They are 87 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: happy to kill as many Americans as they could, and 88 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: would gladly do so if they believe they could get 89 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: away with it. So why are negotiations going to work. 90 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: This is where I come back to my antibiotic analogy 91 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: that I made a couple of years ago. If you 92 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: start to take antibiotics for an infection and then you 93 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: stop before you have killed the infection, you actually make 94 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:01,119 Speaker 1: the infection stronger in your body because going a third 95 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: of the way or half the way towards eliminating the infection, 96 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: when you don't completely eliminate it allows the infection to 97 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: grow back stronger than it otherwise would. That feels to 98 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: me like what is likely to happen in Iran. And 99 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: so you have to come back in ten years or 100 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: twelve years or twenty years even heavier than you did 101 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: right now. And maybe you don't have that same opportunity 102 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: in the future, because right now there is no aerial defense, 103 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: the cost to doing things to Iran is virtually negligible. 104 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: Hamas is down, Hesbaa is down, Siri is down. Iran 105 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: has never been weaker. Right now is the time to 106 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: kill the virus once and for all. In my opinion, 107 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: And if you told me, hey, there's a new regime 108 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: that's taking over in Iran, we can trust them more. 109 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: I may or may not believe that, but that would 110 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: at least be a sign that things might have changed. 111 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: But how can you trust the Ayatola Kameni? How can 112 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: you trust anyone affiliated with this authoritarian government in Iran 113 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: based on their history since nineteen seventy nine? You know, 114 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: in Syria, we're basically rolling the dice in saying, hey, 115 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: this new leadership, we hope it's going to be better 116 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: than a sod. We're going to try to give them 117 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: the space to create a safer, more democratic human rights 118 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: of at least better in Syria than what has been 119 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: in the past. So I don't know how that's going 120 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: to go. But someone knew who you don't have a 121 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: past history with, things could go better. Trump is a 122 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: fabulous negotiator. He has done all sorts of deals. I 123 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: have to believe that in the back of his mind 124 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: he is thinking exactly what I am telling you right now, 125 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: which is it's in their self interest to get nuclear weapons. 126 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: Right now, they might claim to you that they're going 127 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: to give up that pursuit, But when it is in 128 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: the interest of Iran's leaders to have nuclear weapons, and 129 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: when they have consistently lied to us, they lied to Obama, 130 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: they've lied to the globe, why in the world would 131 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: you expect that suddenly they're going to say, oh, you 132 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: know what, we're going to give up our pursuit of 133 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. Doesn't make sense to me. Now, Trump, in 134 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: putting out that two weeks, could be doing what Trump 135 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: was doing last week, which is they basically covered up 136 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: the fact that Israel was about to go all in 137 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: and they knew it. And so maybe that is part 138 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: of what's taking place right now that he's trying to 139 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: wull the Iranian regime into sleep, thinking, oh, we have 140 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: two weeks to make decisions, when in reality, in two 141 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: days He's going to rain down holy hell on them. 142 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: That's my only analysis, and I'm open to the idea 143 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: that I've always opened the idea that I'm missing something, 144 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: or there's an angle of this dispute or this negotiation 145 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: that is more that I'm missing. But I don't think 146 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: I am. We got a group that's been in power 147 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: since nineteen seventy nine. That's my entire life. I'm not 148 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: a young man. Forty six years the Ayatola and his 149 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: compatriots have been in charge of Iran. We've got a 150 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: forty six year history that they hate America and are untrustworthy. 151 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: Why do I trust them now when they're clinging onto 152 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: power by their fingertips, that they're suddenly going to say, oh, 153 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: you know what, that forty six year history, Yeah, we're 154 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: going to disavow that we're going to be good, trustworthy 155 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: negotiating partners from here on henceforth. I just don't buy it. 156 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't add up logically, and so I think the 157 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: only option Trump has is. Look, he could say, hey, 158 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you the big bunker buster 159 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: Iran sended Israel. Send in your special forces and take 160 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: over that nuclear site with boots on the ground, with 161 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: your elite troops. You guys just take care of this, 162 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: will give you air cover. You have the ability now 163 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: to do it. We've taken over the skies around Tehran 164 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: and all over the country. Go in and do it 165 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: boots on the ground style instead of this big bunker 166 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: buster bomb getting us directly involved. Hey, Israel, this is 167 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: your battle. You're the ones taking out these nuclear armaments. 168 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: You go ahead and do it. You know what I'm 169 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: doing them. If I'm Israel, though, again, you got to 170 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: think about the decisions that they have to make rationally, 171 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: the leadership, they're analyzing, they're seeing all this information, all 172 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: these data. I would take out the Ayatola. Ron knows 173 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: better than anybody that this guy can't be trusted. And yes, 174 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: it is a significant step to take out the leader 175 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: of a foreign country. Understand But if I'm net in Yahoo, 176 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: what is Netanyahu's seventy five years old? Since he was 177 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: oh man, you know, live math and me is bad 178 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: for the last nearly half century, since he was like 179 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, thirty years old, he's been dealing 180 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: with the lies coming out of Iran. He's seventy five. 181 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: If I were net in Yahoo, I'd take out the 182 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Ayahtolis rationally based on his desires and based on my 183 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: forty six year history of not being able to trust 184 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: anything that they would do. Now, the challenge is what 185 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: does Trump say there? If I'm net yahou, I just 186 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: go do it. I mean, the United States can say 187 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: we weren't involved. That was a that was in an 188 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Israeli decision, that was an Israeli operation. But I think 189 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: I would go ahead and take him out because I 190 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: don't think you could end up with a worse situation 191 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: of leadership than what happens than what they have right now. Now, 192 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: maybe there's a group inside of Iran that Israel could 193 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: allow to rise up. It would be better if Iran 194 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: had their Ayatola thrown over by Iranians, if it were 195 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: Iranian citizens themselves who rose up to depose their leadership. 196 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: But I think the Ayatola has such power in the 197 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: country that's unlikely. I would also bet that they have 198 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: got him hidden in such a way, even though Trump 199 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: sent a message yesterday saying we know where you are. 200 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: I would also bet they've got him hidden in such 201 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: a way that actually advancing on them with boots on 202 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: the ground military is incredibly challenging to do, maybe impossible, 203 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: And so those are sort of the larger strategic annalysis 204 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: that I would be working through in my mind. Now 205 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: you can tell me if I miss something eight hundred 206 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: and two two eight a two. 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Clay Travis at buck Sexton. 248 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 249 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: get your podcasts. 250 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. One positive 251 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: that is not getting a lot of attention, and I 252 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: think it's just because of how successful it has been. 253 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: There was an announcement that effectively no one has in 254 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: any way crossed our southern border in May. I believe 255 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: the number team correct me if I'm wrong. Last year, 256 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: even as the numbers began to decline because Biden was 257 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: panicking as the numbers looked bad for him. In real life, 258 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: I think there were sixty four thousand people who illegally 259 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: entered the country in May of twenty twenty four. This month, 260 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: meaning the one just passed in May, zero zero people 261 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: actually crossing into the country. It's pretty amazing, all right, 262 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: quick calls here, Joe Jones going to join us on 263 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: the bottom side, Earl in Cincinnati. 264 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: What you got, hey, thanks for going to let me on. 265 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: I you know Trump, Trump giving two weeks no, we've 266 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: dealt with these criminals and I the Ayatola for decades 267 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 3: and decades. Let's just go in and make the country 268 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: a parking lot, get rid of it, exhaust them, and 269 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: move on. It's time, all right. 270 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: That is Earl in Cincinnati, ready to go all in 271 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: and wipe out leadership. Bob in Savannah, Georgia, what do 272 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: you think? 273 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, so people don't believe that the Iranians want to 274 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: kill Death to America. Check the numbers out. It's like 275 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: six hundred and five American soldiers of men and women, 276 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 4: not all but women. But did okay? And then we're 277 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: going to say, okay, well we're going to negotiate with 278 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 4: this idiot Iatoa and uh, he's basically going to change 279 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 4: his way of life after fifty years of generating terrorism 280 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: and killing people for fifty years and all of a 281 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 4: sudden think he's going to turn into a good guy. 282 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 5: There's no way. 283 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 4: And so I don't believe in an assassination at all, 284 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: but I do believe that we need to somehow take 285 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: out that four dow thing. The one thing that nobody 286 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 4: talks about, though, is what type of nuclear radiation of 287 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 4: breakup is going to happen in that area? And nobody 288 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 4: talks about that. I'm going to ask about that. 289 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: It's a great question. If we hit and there's been 290 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: talk that Trump has said, okay, does the bunker busting 291 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: bomb work? Some of you may be nuclear radiation experts. 292 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: It would have shocked me at all in this audience. 293 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: Let us know because my wife asked that question. Hey, 294 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: how come nobody's asking if we had four now this 295 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: aranean nuclear site and we totally obliterate it to smithereens, 296 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: if there's nuclear capabilities there, wouldn't that potentially create more 297 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: significant damage after the hit. I think it's a fabulous 298 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: question he just raised. I didn't know the answer with 299 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: my wife asked, I don't know the answer with my 300 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: wife asked a lot of questions. By the way, phrase 301 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: occasionally used apple doesn't fall far from the tree meant 302 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: to suggest son or daughter, very similar to mom or 303 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: dad Bucks smart guy, Well so is his dad. And 304 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: while he's never spent a day on the radio, spent 305 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: his life on Wall Street. Mason Sexton called the crash 306 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: of eighty seven. He's predicted a lot of different financial 307 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: related issues in the past. He has got a predicted 308 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: right now fallout right now that you can check out 309 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: and see what he believes is going to happen. Next, 310 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: go to Disruption twenty twenty five dot com to watch 311 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: an interview with Mason Sexton. That's Disruption twenty twenty five 312 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: dot com paid for by Paradigm Press. Welcome back in 313 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging 314 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: out with us. We're rolling through the jew teenth edition 315 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: of the program. I wanted to play a couple of 316 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: things here that I thought were significant that we rolled 317 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: over from yesterday. Arnold Schwarzenegger has been doing the rounds. 318 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: He was on the view, he was on Jimmy Kimmel. 319 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if we have the latest yet in 320 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: from his appearance on Jimmy Kimmel, but I did think 321 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: that this was super interesting Cut twenty three. Here he said, 322 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: and the view didn't really like what he said it. 323 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: Immigrants need to act like guests when they come into 324 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: the country. This has cut twenty three. 325 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 6: I just think the world of the great kind of 326 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 6: history that we have with immigrants in America. But the 327 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 6: key thing also is at the same time that we 328 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 6: got to do things legal. That is important thing, you know. 329 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: So he's you got to. 330 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 6: Do things legal. And those people that are doing illegal 331 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 6: things in America and did the foreign us, they are 332 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 6: not smart. Because when you come to America your guest, 333 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 6: and you have to behave like a guest. Like when 334 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 6: I go to someone's house and I'm a guest, then 335 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 6: that would do everything I can, keep things clean and 336 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 6: to make my paid and to do everything that is 337 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 6: the right thing to do, rather than committing a crime 338 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 6: of being abusive with something like that. So that doesn't 339 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 6: really work in this country. 340 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: It's a great analogy, right, I mean, I think a 341 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: lot of you understand that if someone is nice enough 342 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: to open up their home to you and you are 343 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: staying there as a guest and you trash it, that 344 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: reflects really poorly on you. And also the people who 345 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: gave you the hospitality are unlikely to extend that hospitality 346 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 1: not only to you, but probably less likely to extend 347 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: hospitality going forward to others. And he continued, by the way, 348 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: this is I think important for the views audience to hear. 349 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: Here he is saying, look, you have a responsibility when 350 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 1: you're an immigrant to pay back America for what it 351 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: did to you for you and to give back to 352 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: the Country Cut twenty four. 353 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 6: The important thing is when you become an immigrant to 354 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 6: think about, Okay, I go to America because I'm going 355 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 6: to use America for the great opportunities that America has 356 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 6: in education, in jobs, creating a family, all of those 357 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 6: kind of things. Then you have to think about, Okay, 358 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 6: if I get all of those things from America, then 359 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 6: I have to give something back. You have a responsibility 360 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 6: as an immigrant to give back to America and to 361 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 6: pay back to America, and to go and do something 362 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 6: for your community for no money whatsoever. Give something back 363 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 6: to after school programs, especial Olympics or whatever it is. 364 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: Make this party of Plato. As well said by Arnold Schwarzenegger. 365 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: Joey Jones with us. Now you're around my age. I'm 366 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: sure you grew up watching Arnold Schwartzeneagel's Schwarzenegger Sylvester Stallone, 367 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: that universe of really big time action stars. Can you 368 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: believe that that's considered to be controversial now? But I don't. 369 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: As well said by Arnold Well, I. 370 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 5: Think it's controversial because it's being said by Arnold Soorzenegger. 371 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 5: I have a little bit longer memory, and I remember 372 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 5: some of the videos he was putting out criticizing Donald 373 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 5: Trump in a really ridiculous way over the last handful 374 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 5: of years. So I just add him to the latest, 375 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 5: the latest of the long list of Trump derangement victims 376 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 5: who have started to see the light, probably because all 377 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 5: the people that make them popular and rich have also 378 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 5: seen the light and so their following suit. And I 379 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 5: appreciate that he said those things. I think, I'll say, 380 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 5: I think he believed those things, but he has largely 381 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 5: ignored the things like that that he believes in order 382 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 5: to criticize Donald Trump for the last six years. And 383 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 5: it's good to see him come around. 384 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: Tell me about the I believe you have a book out, 385 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, tell me about what you're going 386 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: around talking about right now. 387 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's important thing for me to talk about right now. 388 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 5: It is this book because it's something that's so important 389 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 5: to me. It's not to say that were in the 390 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 5: other things that were that we're discussing aren't just as 391 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 5: important more so. But before we can worry about where, 392 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: we have to get out of our house, go do 393 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 5: the things we do in our lives and try to 394 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 5: stay safe doing them. And there are people out there 395 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 5: called first responders that keep us, really keep us alive. 396 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 5: And I wish it were just personal experience in the 397 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 5: sense of I got pulled over one time, but it's not. 398 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 5: It's people that are really close to me in my life. 399 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 5: My brother in law is somebody that's been an uncle 400 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: toomy since fellas three years old, a guy that I went. 401 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: To war with. 402 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 5: And these are Indiana State Trooper fireman. These are a 403 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 5: game boarding in the state of Maine, a SWAT team 404 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 5: member near Baltimore LAPD bomb squad, and their stories are 405 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 5: just they're inspiring from a position of how do you 406 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 5: keep doing this every day? How do you get out 407 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 5: of your house every day and drive your kids to 408 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 5: school through an intersection where someone was killed there last 409 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 5: night and you responded to it, you know? How do 410 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 5: you drive by an apartment building that you've gone through 411 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 5: so many times for a drug overdose or domestic violence 412 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 5: or a fire. And how do you live in your 413 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 5: battlefield and get up every morning and you're happy to 414 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 5: go to work and you carry that weight, not just 415 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 5: the weight of your gear, but the memories of all 416 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 5: the things you've ex ceriousd in your own community and 417 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 5: still function as a dad or a wife or a son, 418 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 5: and I got to sit down with none of those 419 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,239 Speaker 5: people and ask those questions. We made this book from it, 420 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 5: and it's just an amazing piece of history. Really. 421 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: The book's called Behind the Badge, Answering the Call to 422 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: serve on America's home Front. You served lost your legs 423 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: Purple Heart recipient, so you uniquely are probably experiencing what's 424 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: going on with Iran based on the service that you 425 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: already have given to this country and the sacrifice that 426 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: you've made. So if President Trump called you up and 427 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: he said, hey, what advice would you give me based 428 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: on what you've seen about the situation in Iran, you 429 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: would say. 430 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 5: What, what's the clear objective? If you can, if you can, 431 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 5: if you can explain a clear objective of what you 432 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 5: want to accomplish, that I'm absolutely supportive of you, because 433 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 5: as a president, you've already shown that your goal was 434 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 5: not to put service members on the front lines for 435 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 5: twenty years. Your goal is not to convince the American 436 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 5: people every two years to fund an endless war. Their 437 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: goal isn't to wrap us up in a war that 438 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: the objective changes every two years, that it goes from 439 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 5: we want to kill Osama bin Laden, so we want 440 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 5: to create democracy and spread and spread our belief system 441 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 5: across the Middle East. I don't believe that President Trump 442 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 5: has those goals. President Trump's goal is to keep Americans 443 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 5: not just for the four years he's in office, but 444 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 5: for the next forty years. I also believe that's why 445 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 5: he has the economic vision he has, and so he's 446 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 5: built enough trust in me for his first four years 447 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 5: in office and doing what he says in this much 448 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 5: of this term that I'm not concerned with him getting 449 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 5: us into a needless war or an endless war. But 450 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 5: as someone who fought in a twenty year war, I'm 451 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: skeptical of anyone power who can send troops there. And 452 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 5: I want to know, what are your objectives? What is 453 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 5: the objective? I'm not saying he can say that to 454 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 5: us publicly right now. There is a chess game going on, 455 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 5: and I believe that President Trump understands the power of 456 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 5: his words as a point of leverage. So even if 457 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 5: he says it publicly, I know there's more behind it 458 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 5: than just what he says. If it's we're you know, 459 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 5: a total surrender, does that mean total surrender of your 460 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 5: nuclear program or does that mean get on a plane 461 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 5: next out of Russia. He knows, Iron knows. The rest 462 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: of us have to guess. And so I understand the 463 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 5: strategy here. I believe that President Trump is seeing an 464 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 5: opportunity to use that microphone as the plomacy a threat, 465 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 5: I guess you would say, But also on the back channels, 466 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 5: he's trying to make a deal. 467 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: He says that we're talking to Joey Jones, Fox News. 468 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: I know you're a sports fan. We haven't talked about 469 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: it on the program in the last couple of days, 470 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: but Caitlin Clark getting wrecked has every game. It's like 471 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: it goes megaviral. What do you think should happened there? 472 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: Is it good for the league? Even though at least 473 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: it creates controversy when it's like the Real Housewives of 474 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: the w NBA. Can you remember seeing anything like this 475 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: as a sports fan? 476 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 5: Listen, I poking her in the eye, I think is 477 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 5: the latest thing that happened. 478 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the right thing. 479 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 5: Like any hands of the face like that. The dirtiest move. 480 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, for men, there's some maybe one 481 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 5: move that's a little dirtier when you're in a pile 482 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 5: in football, but that's a different thing. But to poke 483 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 5: somebody in the eye, that's just such an egregious act. 484 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 5: I think anyone who gets caught doing it should be 485 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 5: suspended automatically. From the greater picture, I think it's probably 486 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 5: the best thing that's happened to the WNBA in a 487 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 5: long time. I mean, I hate to be cynical in 488 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 5: that way. I'm not saying it's a it's an objectively 489 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 5: good thing. But there's another Sophie I can't remember her 490 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 5: last name. 491 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: Like Sophie Cunningham turned into a star. 492 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 5: Now you haven't heard that. She's a very attractive young woman. 493 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 5: But also she's coming out and throwing up elbows and 494 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 5: defending her teammates. So now it's like there's more entry, 495 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 5: there's more characters in the plot, and so the more 496 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 5: it grows in that way, it's got to capture an 497 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 5: audience for the WNBA. Is it setting the right example? 498 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 5: I don't know the Oto Senko or any number of 499 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 5: football players that have captured people's attention for Terrell Owens. 500 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 5: Did any of those make the world a better place 501 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 5: or set a great example? Probably not, So it's not 502 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 5: great that this is how you get on there. But 503 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 5: I'm infinitely more interested in the sport than I was 504 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 5: a year and a half ago, So I think you 505 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 5: got to be honest in that respect. 506 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: Supreme Court ruling came down yesterday. You've got kids earlier 507 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: in the program. I said, I don't understand how any 508 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: parent that is looking at things rationally could say, hey, 509 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: it's good for a fourteen or fifteen year old to 510 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: have permanent surgery that would potentially sterilize them or alter 511 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: in some way their ability to grow up as a 512 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: healthy adult. And I looked at it on the Supreme Court, 513 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: I said, six to one parents said Tennessee can do 514 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: what Tennessee was trying to do. Two non parents soughto 515 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: my yore and also Kagan said two, oh oh, this 516 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: is perfectly fine. Do you think being a parent here 517 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: impacts the way you see this? And does it surprise 518 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: you that parents would have almost entirely one perspective and 519 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: non parents might have another one? 520 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 5: You know, I like where you're going there, and I 521 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 5: think for rational human beings that's absolutely true. But I mean, 522 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 5: you got to remember, these kids that are having this 523 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 5: done have parents, and I guess their parents are okay 524 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 5: with it. I mean sometimes said they believe they were 525 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 5: brainwashed in hindsight, but I mean that's a I would 526 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 5: say that too if I screwed up that badly, I guess, 527 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 5: and my kid decided to reverse course. So I think 528 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 5: it really comes down to being a rational human being 529 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 5: and understanding the world as it exists. I mean, there's 530 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 5: short of people that want to be tall, there are 531 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 5: tall people that want to be short. There are blonds 532 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 5: that want to be brunettes. And I guess there's some 533 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 5: things that are temporary you can do to change. You 534 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 5: can buy sticks, shoes, or dye your hair, but when 535 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 5: you come to changing the chemical makeup of your DNA 536 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 5: of your body, I mean, I'm a thirty eight year 537 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 5: old man and I have to I have to take 538 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 5: testosphone replacement because my body quit making it because my 539 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 5: cortisol levels were so raised for so long, not just 540 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 5: through my injury, but through my recovery that my body said, 541 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 5: you know what, we're in a fight or flight mode 542 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 5: for now on. And I did that for many years, 543 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 5: and then finally my body started working again just to 544 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 5: get it back to normal. And I know how I 545 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 5: felt for the years that I was in that state, 546 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 5: and the thing that I would go and actively do 547 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 5: that to deprive my body of something that needs for 548 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 5: bone density, just for wellness, for regenerations, to steal, to 549 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 5: deprive my body of those things, or to change the 550 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 5: chemical makeup of those things is a heavy decision. And 551 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 5: to let a teenager that doesn't under the eyes of 552 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 5: the wall, have the discernment to drive a vehicle, drink alcohol, 553 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 5: serve their country, or vote, change who they are in 554 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: that way in a way that's detrimental to their health 555 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 5: in any respect. Only rational people, only irrational people think 556 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 5: that's a good idea. Dow understand. The argument is you 557 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 5: haven't had a child that's going through gender dicye for 558 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 5: you and dealt with that. You're right, I get that, 559 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 5: But there are any number of issues out there. You know, 560 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 5: we don't take every every person that struggles with depression 561 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 5: and anxiety and hysteria and give them the lobotomy like 562 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 5: we you know, we we grew through that stupidity. And 563 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 5: this is the lobotomy of gender dysphoria. That's what this is. 564 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 5: And that's the problem is it's it's irrevocable and causes harm. 565 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: And it's forever no doubt. Hey, I encourage everybody to 566 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: check it out. Behind the Badge answering the call to 567 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: serve on America's home front. Joey Jones, you can see 568 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: him on Fox News Purple Heart recipient, great work. Appreciate 569 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: you making the time for us today. Good luck with 570 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: the book. 571 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 5: I appreciate you, guys. Thank you. 572 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: That is Joey Jones, and I want to tell you 573 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to play some of your talkbacks. I think 574 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: we're going to be entertained by those. But in the meantime, 575 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: you just heard me asking what would Joey tell the 576 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: president if the President asked him, Hey, what do you 577 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: think we should do? Israeli citizens today suffered incoming missile strikes, 578 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: hit in the hospital, tremendous damage, and the missile attacks 579 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: meant to harm innocence civilians. They're just trying to injure 580 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: people that have nothing at all to do with the battle. 581 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: Israelis have to move into bomb shelters at a moment's notice. Overnight, 582 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: they got to get down there to get themselves out 583 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: of harms way. No end insight to these kind of bombings, 584 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: and the need for assistance is great which is why 585 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is on the 586 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: ground preparing large scale distributions of life saving food, first 587 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: aid and emergency kits, especially to Israel's most vulnerable people, 588 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: the sick, the elderly, children and families in great need. 589 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: Your help is needed right now more than ever. They're 590 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: making sure hospital's emergency rooms shelters fully stocked critical life 591 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: saving supplies. That's why the Fellowship needs your most generous 592 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: gift today. Now's the time to stand with Israel's most vulnerable. 593 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: Rush your gift today eight eight eight for eight eight IFCJ. 594 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ. You can 595 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: also go online at IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ dot org. 596 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: Man want to be in the know when you're on 597 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: the go. The Team forty seven podcast Trump highlights from 598 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: the week Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clan Bug 599 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: podcast Speed Find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 600 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. 601 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. All Right, 602 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit a bunch of your talkbacks. I love 603 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: these talkbacks because they're fast. You can hit a bunch 604 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: of different topics and frankly, because I'm right, most of 605 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: you are wrong about everything. Podcast listener Dan from Wisconsin. 606 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: He's mad that I said LSU has the best party 607 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: scene in college football. 608 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 7: Aa Hey Clay, this is Dan from Wisconsin. I just 609 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 7: want to let you know that LSU is not the 610 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 7: best party scene you ever want to see how people 611 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 7: truly drink and still be able to walk come up 612 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 7: to Camp Randall. Baby, let's go Badgers. 613 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: I was up there. I actually went to the Alabama 614 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: Wisconsin game last September. It was awesome. Here's the problem. 615 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: The weather is awful by the time you get to 616 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: mid to late October, and certainly for November on average. 617 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to be outside freezing my ass off 618 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: for a tailgate. Yes, it's hot at LSU and September, 619 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: but the benefit the SEC has is it can be 620 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: pretty phenomenal weather in much of the SEC for all 621 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: of September, October and November when the regular season's going on. 622 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: That means LSU greater than Wisconsin when it comes to 623 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: football tailgate scene. Steve from o we Aloma City wanted 624 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: to weigh in, BB Clay. 625 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 8: I'll due respect to you and the honorable missed Cassidy. 626 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 8: But if you ain't been to a game at the 627 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 8: University of Wisconsin Madison, don't even compare anything else. 628 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: You guys are wrong. It was fabulous. I was impressed. 629 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: Wisconsin is beautiful. I'm gonna be in Michigan next week. 630 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: Upper Peninsula near of Michigan, Northern Michigan one of the 631 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: great places in the country. I'm going to broadcast from 632 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: Traverse City. Would have never known it existed but for 633 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: the fact that I married a girl from Michigan, but 634 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: only in the summer large portions of the year. It 635 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: is awful walking around outside to a football game or 636 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: anything else. Richard, Louisville, Kentucky. What you got for me? 637 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 8: Hey, how's it going? Richard? 638 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 9: Here, I just wanted to point out that this seems 639 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 9: a little hypocritical for some of us to be getting 640 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 9: bent out of shape about your word usage for hoops 641 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 9: when we tell everybody they're losing their minds on the 642 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 9: left because everything is so emotional based. Who cares, it's 643 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 9: just some words to descratch some what It wasn't even 644 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 9: that bad. 645 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: I agree, Thank you. Maddie in Salt Lake City on 646 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: KNRS one, oh five point nine. 647 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 10: Hey Clay, I'm twenty one and thanks to my dad's job, 648 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 10: I've traveled the world since I was very little. I've 649 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 10: also seen the girls younger than me carrying the AK 650 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 10: forty sevens and it was a total culture shock. When 651 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 10: I was in England recently I saw the real no 652 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 10: King protests, and then when I got the news alerts 653 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 10: and saw the similar protests in the US, it was 654 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 10: honestly embarrassing. People here complain about a monarchy without even 655 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 10: knowing what it's like to actually live under one. It's embarrassing. 656 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Maddie. Love the talkbacks. You guys can load 657 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: them up. I'll play them tomorrow for you on Friday, 658 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: Happy Juneteenth. Thanks for hanging with us. I'll be with 659 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: you all tomorrow