WEBVTT - Sam Cosmi Comes 'From Humble Beginnings' | Next Man Up | Washington Commanders

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<v Speaker 1>What's a good Commandi's family Brian Coo with j here

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the Next Man Up podcast. We talk

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<v Speaker 1>to your favorite Commanders players, not so much about x

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<v Speaker 1>N knows more about the man behind the helmet.

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<v Speaker 2>And our next man is no other than Sam Cosmy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam talks about his family ties, inspiring his incredible work ethic.

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<v Speaker 1>He talks about being overlooked early in his career and

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<v Speaker 1>what that did for him today. And of course he

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<v Speaker 1>showed love to his new baby girl that Sam Cosby

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<v Speaker 1>is our girl dad. And we talk about all that

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<v Speaker 1>and much more. All that starts right, What's good Commanders Family?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm brod who and this is the next Man of podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk to your favorite Commanders players, not so much

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<v Speaker 1>about X and OS, more about the player behind the helmet.

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<v Speaker 1>And our next man up is no other than our

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<v Speaker 1>big guy, Sam Kasey saying, how.

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<v Speaker 3>You doing today? I'm doing great. Appreciate you on this and.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you beating here. I know you guys are busy. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're on the back end of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't really want to talk too much about football. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to know who you are as a person. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to start from the beginning. So you said

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<v Speaker 1>humble Texas, right, not humble, but humble.

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<v Speaker 4>Age is silent. I don't know why, but that's how

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<v Speaker 4>it's pronounced.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, talk about that and like what it means

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<v Speaker 1>being there, because I know you love Texas a lot

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<v Speaker 1>and that's home for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, you know, growing up there. My family

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<v Speaker 4>still has the same household that I grew up in.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's just the area I've always been in,

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<v Speaker 4>loved and seeing it develop and do all that. So

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's a lot a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like connections there and stuff like that. You know, most

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<v Speaker 4>of my family have a massive family and so all

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<v Speaker 4>of them are pretty much there, you know, thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 4>outskirts of that area. So you know, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's home to me, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And they say Texas Well, they have this argument right

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<v Speaker 1>where like Texas, Florida, California they talk about the best

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<v Speaker 1>football states.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, would you put Texas up there.

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<v Speaker 3>At the top? Well, it has to be, right, it

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<v Speaker 3>has to be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like Friday Nights is like it's almost like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>other than church, you know, it's it's it's second you know,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's like it's there's nothing like it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the support that we get from parents and all that

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<v Speaker 4>type of stuff. They're so invested into it ever since

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<v Speaker 4>grow up in little you can do and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's the Little League. Parents are crazy, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>crazy for it. So yeah, I mean it's it's almost

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<v Speaker 4>like a religion of its own.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like I have a cousins that live out there,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, nephews and stuff like that that play

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<v Speaker 1>at a very like you know, they're this big playing

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<v Speaker 1>the tiny little kids playing, but they're getting like big

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<v Speaker 1>championship rings. Yeah, things like that to compete. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>get to do that when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were a kid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean we though when they started introducing like

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<v Speaker 4>the rings, Yeah, I thought it was so cool when

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<v Speaker 4>I started doing selectball, so like that was like going

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<v Speaker 4>into like end of elementary into middle school type of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>They started introducing like when you want Championhi, you got

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<v Speaker 4>a ring? I actually got a couple that my dad.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything I get that you know, from you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>high school college. Now I just give it to my

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<v Speaker 4>dad and he keeps it and he loves it, cherishes it.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's it's definitely really cool to get

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<v Speaker 4>one of those. Now kids are getting all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's really really cool. It's crazy like.

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<v Speaker 1>In every sport, baseball, they getting these big old race

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's so so cool, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a testament to like how serious Texas takes their sports.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, for you, when did you realize like, oh, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be a football player, like this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm supposed to be doing.

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<v Speaker 3>With uh, you know, I didn't really know.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean when I started playing football, I was nine

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<v Speaker 4>years old and I originally played soccer and I was

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<v Speaker 4>way too aggressive when it came to I got way

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<v Speaker 4>too many red cards.

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<v Speaker 3>They put me a goalie.

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<v Speaker 4>My mom, I remember I was going to uh she

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<v Speaker 4>was driving to school and I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to play football, And you know, the first

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<v Speaker 4>thing she said was, you know the coaches really mean

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, oh, no, you know, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to try it out and do it. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It stuck and in high school I didn't really I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't know the whole like recruiting process or any of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like my family, they they came from a different country,

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<v Speaker 4>and they didn't know any of that. So like for me,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just like when college started, like wanting to

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<v Speaker 4>talk to me and stuff, I was just very foreign.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, this is a thing, like I can actually

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<v Speaker 4>go to college playing football, you know, for free. Like

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<v Speaker 4>that was mind boggling to me to be true, way

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<v Speaker 4>too good to be true. And I was like, you

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<v Speaker 4>know when that first offer came in and and I

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<v Speaker 4>was I was over the moon for it.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean when it comes.

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<v Speaker 4>To that, I just it's it's just crazy looking back

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<v Speaker 4>at that, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can tell your parents meet a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>you a couple of times just already talk about them.

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<v Speaker 2>You said they're immigrants.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, Yes, so my family came from first generation here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm first generation here. They came from Romania and met

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<v Speaker 4>at they went to the same Romanian church by the

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<v Speaker 4>metal coffee shop and got Yeah, I got this whole

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<v Speaker 4>history of me being here and doing all that. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's really cool to have that heritage and

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<v Speaker 4>that culture. I have a massive family here in Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and with that comes with you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of sport, a lot of love, really really close

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<v Speaker 4>family and so yeah, I mean They've mean the world

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<v Speaker 4>to me, and they've done so much for me just

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they had to learn so much as of.

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<v Speaker 3>VI right going through this whole football process.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, my mom was like she didn't know an

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<v Speaker 4>ounce of football, you know, and now she's like she's

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<v Speaker 4>over here to call and plays and doing this type

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>She's locked in for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, it's really special what they did for

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<v Speaker 4>me and how much they sacrificed for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so cool because you see like here immigrants and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, that can't be easy.

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<v Speaker 2>It cannot be easy moving.

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<v Speaker 1>From one country to another, Yeah, and just completely starting

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<v Speaker 1>a life, and you growing up seeing that, hearing the stories,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what they had been through to get here, how

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<v Speaker 1>did that change your perspective and like make you look

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<v Speaker 1>at them different?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Like the biggest thing that I took from

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<v Speaker 4>all that was I never took anything for granted, especially

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, growing up we didn't have They provided

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<v Speaker 4>a lot for us, but wouldn't obviously have I income

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<v Speaker 4>from a household that like you know, we had all

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<v Speaker 4>the little nice things here and there, you know, like

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<v Speaker 4>it was they they did everything they could to provide

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<v Speaker 4>for us. And do give us a great life and

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<v Speaker 4>we had, you know, and seeing how hard my dad

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<v Speaker 4>and my mom worked and did all that, like it

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<v Speaker 4>was just like a testament to them. So you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my dad would always tell me, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>depends on how how much hard work you put in

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<v Speaker 4>is how much you're going to get out type of thing. So,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, everything I do, I kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 4>take that mentality, and because I've seen it. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>like my dad works his tail off. He worked his

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<v Speaker 4>tail off for us, you know, just to provide and

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<v Speaker 4>do all that. And you know that's something that I

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<v Speaker 4>always appreciated.

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<v Speaker 3>I always saw.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's he's so such a hard worker, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's really cool being able to like observe that

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<v Speaker 4>and see that from my dad and be able to

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<v Speaker 4>take that and you know, not only in my everyday

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<v Speaker 4>life but on the field and doing all that type

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I love hearing you guys talk about your dads. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I was growing up, you always like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to my mom, shut out to moll.

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<v Speaker 1>Dads didn't always get a lot of love. And it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like you all, younger cats really got love for

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<v Speaker 1>your dads.

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<v Speaker 2>Your dad's were very very present. So that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know a lot of times, like me growing

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<v Speaker 1>up and going through life, I think about the things

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<v Speaker 1>my dad has said, right, I think about things advice

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<v Speaker 1>he gave me.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a lot going on lately.

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<v Speaker 1>What is some advice from your dad that you ring

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<v Speaker 1>true in your head constantly? What's the one thing he

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<v Speaker 1>constantly told you that you're like, yeah, Pops, she was right.

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<v Speaker 3>You're talking about my new addition.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be that. Man, I mean, you are father.

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<v Speaker 1>We were gonna get into that a little later. We

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<v Speaker 1>could jump into it right now. You are a girl dad.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm a girl dad for sure. It's one of

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<v Speaker 4>the I mean, it's such a special moment to go

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<v Speaker 4>through and be a part of and and do all that,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, being able to hold your baby girl

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<v Speaker 4>and do all. You know, it's just like there's nothing

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<v Speaker 4>like it. There really isn't. And uh, my dad he

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<v Speaker 4>just always told me and tells me to like cherish it.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, he knows like what type of man

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<v Speaker 4>I am, you know, and like I the things that

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<v Speaker 4>he's told me, like the way he raised me, all

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<v Speaker 4>that type of stuff, like I'm taking, I know, to

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<v Speaker 4>take to my my daughter, you know, how to how

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<v Speaker 4>to treat a rite with respect and all that type

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff. And and uh, you know, I have two

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<v Speaker 4>little sisters, so uh you know they.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a little practice.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, you know, like I I, I treat them

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<v Speaker 4>with all, you know, so much love, and I care

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<v Speaker 4>for them so much, like they're almost like my daughter's

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<v Speaker 4>almost that type of thing, you know, So it's like, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>they're my little sisters there. You know, I protected them.

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<v Speaker 4>I did all that, you know and that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So my dad always told me to do that. So

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<v Speaker 4>that's what I do for my little baby girl.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt you're gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about your baby girl a little later.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's let's go back to you being a young

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<v Speaker 1>man choosing where you're gonna go to college. So clearly

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<v Speaker 1>family's a lot to you. Like you said, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of family in Texas. So was that always

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<v Speaker 1>the goal to go to college somewhere in Texas and

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<v Speaker 1>be close to your family.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that kind of the goal?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm gonna be honest with if it wasn't for football,

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<v Speaker 4>I probably wouldn't have gone to college like I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like educally like my mom always like I

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<v Speaker 4>had really good grades in high school, like I scored

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<v Speaker 4>really high on my SAT like I did all that.

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<v Speaker 4>But like for us, it wasn't like college wasn't necessary,

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<v Speaker 4>like you go do it type of thing. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>like if you want to, but it's like, why do

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go in debt where I could just

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<v Speaker 4>go work and start working my way up to something,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. That was kind of my mindset. Obviously I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to go to college, but again for football, I

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<v Speaker 4>got the opportunity to do that. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>originally committed to the University of Houston, hometown co chairman

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<v Speaker 4>at the time when I ended up going to Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was a low recruited cat like I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was on the barrel type of thing. So like.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, so when they went there, it took a

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<v Speaker 4>while for them to it was two weeks before signing

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<v Speaker 4>day they offered me. They struck out on so many

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<v Speaker 4>guys they finally offered me, And like us or for

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<v Speaker 4>my family, Texas was kind of like that, like the Mecca,

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<v Speaker 4>the Mecca, h you know, so It's like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>passing that up. But you know, I got to college.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like four fifth string office lineman amongst all everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like I was one of those developmental guys. So

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<v Speaker 4>uh but yeah, when I had the opportunity, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they were so thrilled that I was going to Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>So you were thrilled as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I was stoked.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that was a uh that was a school

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<v Speaker 4>that I always repped all the time. Like my parents

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<v Speaker 4>would go to Ross and if they had Texas here there,

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<v Speaker 4>I always ask them like can I get sure? Can

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<v Speaker 4>I get something? You know, like Ross or Marshalls, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like that type of thing. So like, uh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>was always trying to rep Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>They clearly made the right decision. Man, You go to

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<v Speaker 1>Texas and now you said it. You said you weren't

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<v Speaker 1>one of the top guys. You were at gaming of

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the depth chart. Yeah, what did being

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<v Speaker 1>able to overcome that become a starter, become a big

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<v Speaker 1>man on campus? What was that like for you? Especially

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<v Speaker 1>when you're young, you're a teenager. That's not easy to do. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>How did you stay focused? How did you accomplish that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so like kind of going back to my my

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<v Speaker 4>dad's way of like working. You know, I was a

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<v Speaker 4>really really light guy. I knew I had to put

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<v Speaker 4>weight on. A lot of the testament was to my strength.

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<v Speaker 4>Coach Yancey McKnight. He helped me a ton through that

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<v Speaker 4>whole process. I sat down with him like, hey, like

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<v Speaker 4>I know what, I know what where I'm at, and

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<v Speaker 4>i know what I need to do and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to do everything to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So like when I tell you, I was always in

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<v Speaker 4>the weight room, like always lifting always. Like my eating

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<v Speaker 4>habits at first was just like on point, like you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like I it was like cars, a ton of protein,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, limited sugar, that type of stuff. Like I

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<v Speaker 4>was on top of it. I ate Chipotle. Would you

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<v Speaker 4>look at that they old chipotlet. But if you Rice

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<v Speaker 4>has everything, you have everything.

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<v Speaker 3>I eat that for like.

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<v Speaker 4>Breakfast, lunch, and dinner type of thing. Like I was

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<v Speaker 4>so dedicated to doing that. And you know, as the

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<v Speaker 4>years kind of progressed, I was able to put weight

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<v Speaker 4>on and then I was always kind of like more

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<v Speaker 4>athletic when it came to a big guy. So like

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<v Speaker 4>I think that it kind of goes back in the background,

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<v Speaker 4>like me playing soccer. That helped a ton, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just being able to be such a big guy. But

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<v Speaker 4>I was able to move with all the smaller kids

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<v Speaker 4>instead of doing all that type of stuff. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I just used that to my.

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<v Speaker 3>Ability to go up.

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<v Speaker 4>And as I started putting more weight on and doing

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<v Speaker 4>all that, that's when I started being able to perform

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<v Speaker 4>really high and do all that. So yeah, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of my testament goes to obviously like my dad's worth

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<v Speaker 4>ethic and looking at him, knowing that I got to

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<v Speaker 4>put in the work, and then my strength coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it takes a humbleness in all that work

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<v Speaker 1>right and grinding and knowing like hey, I could have

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<v Speaker 1>went somewhere else, so maybe a smaller school and been

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<v Speaker 1>the man.

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<v Speaker 2>Immediately she chose the long route. You chose the harder

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<v Speaker 2>route for you.

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<v Speaker 1>When was that moment when you were like, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm here, like I'm the man now, Like I've

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<v Speaker 1>put in that work and now I'm here to show

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<v Speaker 1>you guys who I really am.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So like my sophomore year or my retro freshman year,

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<v Speaker 4>I played and I was really light and I had

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<v Speaker 4>a good season, and I was going to my junior

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<v Speaker 4>year and I bumped up like twelve twelve fifteen pounds

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<v Speaker 4>and I started like halfway through like really playing some

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<v Speaker 4>good ball, and there was somebody talks about like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>he could like come out and go to the draft.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, what the NFL? Are you serious? Like that's

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<v Speaker 4>not even that was not even again, college was never

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<v Speaker 4>a thought. NFL was never a thought. So like those things,

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<v Speaker 4>I was just trying to play football, right, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like just play football, have fun, do my job. And

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<v Speaker 4>that was my basis of what I was doing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean junior year was when of the talks are like,

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<v Speaker 4>hey he could come out, you know, and I'm like

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<v Speaker 4>what And so yeah, that's kind of when I started

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<v Speaker 4>like oh, I actually has a shot to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so wild because then you get drafted, you

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<v Speaker 1>go what second round? Yeah, I mean that is crazy

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<v Speaker 1>for somebody that didn't even assume that they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to make it to the NFL. But you made it

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<v Speaker 1>and you get that call from Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that like for you? Man? What was that moment?

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<v Speaker 2>Like take us back there?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, never my Waller's dreams, what I've ever imagined

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<v Speaker 4>being and this position. I mean, you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people take you know, could take this for granted.

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<v Speaker 4>I did not, you know, I mean this meant not

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<v Speaker 4>only so much to me, to my family, to the

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<v Speaker 4>testament of what they did for me and all this,

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<v Speaker 4>like all the investment that did to put into me,

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<v Speaker 4>all the all the long car trips we go and

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<v Speaker 4>go to games and travel and do all that, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know the amount of hours they put into just

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<v Speaker 4>taking care of me and doing that. So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just it was you could see it on the table.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just so much emotion just came to that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was so cool. It was really really special.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>And then your first year, you know, you're troubled with

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<v Speaker 1>a few injuries, and you know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>young guys on this team, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>young people that watch and like look up to you

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<v Speaker 1>and say, oh man, I want to be the next

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Cosmy.

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<v Speaker 2>How did you mentally overcome that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because nobody expects that, right, nobody expects their rookie season

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<v Speaker 1>to be having to deal with injuris, having to miss time.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you mentally overcome that and keep.

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<v Speaker 4>Going uh, you know, like rookie year, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>guys say it's like a blur, and mine was for

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<v Speaker 4>sure a blur. It was definitely difficult because I that

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<v Speaker 4>was the first time I really got the injury bug,

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<v Speaker 4>because I came back from a high and low ankle

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<v Speaker 4>sprain on the same ankle, and then the same game

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<v Speaker 4>I came back, I tore my hip flexer. So like

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<v Speaker 4>I never had injuries in college, like I was always healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>That was brand new feet.

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<v Speaker 3>It is this whole new experience for me.

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<v Speaker 4>Luckily, I had Brandon Sheriff here and he was dealing

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<v Speaker 4>with a knee thing, and I learned a lot from

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<v Speaker 4>him on like how to get through that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it was definitely you could say, like a

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<v Speaker 4>darker time, you know, because it's a new spot. I've

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<v Speaker 4>never been outside of Texas besides then, and I went

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<v Speaker 4>to California for training. But that was you know, that

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<v Speaker 4>was good. That was a great time. But this is

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<v Speaker 4>I'm on my own. I go I come here, I

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<v Speaker 4>go to my apartment by myself, and it's just football

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<v Speaker 4>by myself, football by myself. So when the football aspect

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<v Speaker 4>got kind of taken away, I was just strictly like

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<v Speaker 4>focused into just trying to get my body right, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And so yeah, I learned a lot from Brandon. I

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<v Speaker 4>learned a lot for myself. I learned a lot about

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<v Speaker 4>my body and and doing that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the hardest part about them days when you

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<v Speaker 1>had to go home and be alone?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean you go to an apartment that like

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<v Speaker 4>it's just like I didn't have a lot of lights

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<v Speaker 4>in there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like I always said, my two my two

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<v Speaker 4>friends were my two TVs and the and the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, Like it's just like, you know, you're by yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's not easy. You're young, young, Yeah, you just

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't want to go out and do stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>There's you know in the area. It's more suburb area,

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<v Speaker 4>so there's not tons of stuff to do around here.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's like, yeah, it's quote unquote kind of depressing

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<v Speaker 4>for sure. So yeah, I mean, just but I knew

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<v Speaker 4>that's the one thing I did. I knew that better

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<v Speaker 4>times were coming. That was the biggest thing the mindset,

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<v Speaker 4>like better things times are coming. Because again going back

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<v Speaker 4>to if I keep working hard, better times are coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, so just keeping that mindset of like it sucks,

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<v Speaker 4>like especially that second.

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<v Speaker 3>Injury coming back.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I was in the dumps, like I worked

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<v Speaker 4>so hard to get back from my high and low

0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.920
<v Speaker 4>inkle sprain. You know, it's not an easy injury. And

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<v Speaker 4>for that to happen, I mean, I'm like, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>gotta do it again, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and it worked, man, because clearly second year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been been a good year for you. Man, You've

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<v Speaker 1>shown who you are, You've shown you belong here as

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<v Speaker 1>a starter for you. How has this year been different

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<v Speaker 1>than that first year? And what have you felt that

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been different for you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to be able to like, you know, grasping the

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<v Speaker 4>knowledge of like the guys that I've had around me,

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<v Speaker 4>the older cats, that type of stuff. Being able to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like ball slow down. You always kind of

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<v Speaker 4>hear that, like as as time as plays kind of

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<v Speaker 4>go and all that type of stuff, like just the

0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:56.280
<v Speaker 4>football slows down and your knowledge of the game just increases.

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<v Speaker 4>And so being able to have that like knowledge allows

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<v Speaker 4>you to have like that savvy especially on the on

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<v Speaker 4>the field of like yeah, I know what's going on,

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<v Speaker 4>I know what's coming, I know what's going to happen. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's just having your head on your shoulders and not

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<v Speaker 4>feeling like you're just like a chicken with his head

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<v Speaker 4>cut off, you know, like that's the rookie year, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and then that you know, going to that that just

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<v Speaker 4>feels way better knowing what's happening and that type of stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you can start working on your craft and

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<v Speaker 4>really do all that.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's been able.

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<v Speaker 4>That's been the thing that's been able for me to

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<v Speaker 4>just hone in in.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's somebody that was very fortunate because you're coming

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<v Speaker 1>on to a team, especially last season as well, where

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<v Speaker 1>it's full of studs on that defensive line. Yeah, going

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<v Speaker 1>up against some of the best defensive linemen in the.

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<v Speaker 2>League day in and day out. What did you get

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<v Speaker 2>from those battles?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I got I gotta put on my

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<v Speaker 4>ass a lot, you know what I'm saying. So, like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, having these those guys to go against, like

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<v Speaker 4>Tess and Chase especially a tackle and now you know

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<v Speaker 4>this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Being able to go against Rawn, you know, you learn

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<v Speaker 3>a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>You learn a lot from you know what it is

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<v Speaker 4>like going against some of the best and you're always

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<v Speaker 4>trying to you know, you're never you're never failing. You're

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<v Speaker 4>just like you're taking this and if you allow yourself

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<v Speaker 4>to learn from it, it's not you're not failing, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So those those are especially in practices and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So being able to take that and grow from that

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<v Speaker 4>was it was huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Year three for you has to be very very special

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<v Speaker 1>because you had your baby grow.

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<v Speaker 2>What did that do for you?

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<v Speaker 1>How did that change your mentality from this rookie that

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<v Speaker 1>comes in here, doesn't know whether you're out there all alone,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're a father.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's so it's crazy like then this time span

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<v Speaker 4>I got married and then not even a year from

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<v Speaker 4>when we got married, we have a baby. Like it's

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<v Speaker 4>crazy for us, you know, and and uh, you know

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<v Speaker 4>obviously you got to mature and do all that and

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm a dad now type of thing, and you

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<v Speaker 4>there's nothing, it's crazy. There's nothing like when you have

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, your kid, that love, that instant love

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<v Speaker 4>you know that you have for her. For me, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what I felt. I mean, I wasn't when she came

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<v Speaker 4>into this world. I was just filled with so much

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<v Speaker 4>joy and love and that type of stuff. So Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it gives me another motivation to play even harder on Sundays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Has it made it harder or easier to do your

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<v Speaker 1>job knowing that she's home waiting for you, waiting to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to spend time with her dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it make it harder? Sometimes?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I mean I talked to my wife.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, I impressed myself right now because it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's like I get less sleep, right, and

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<v Speaker 4>so it's like being able to come home like here

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<v Speaker 4>and still like perform highly and do all that type

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<v Speaker 4>of stuff. And you know, I because at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the day, I still want to help and do

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<v Speaker 4>that and still be a pro and still be able

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<v Speaker 4>to take care of my body and that type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, being able to go home.

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<v Speaker 4>I look forward to going home, look for in to

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<v Speaker 4>just holding her and just having on my chest and

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<v Speaker 4>just having her just she does nothing, but it's just

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<v Speaker 4>the cutest little thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's so sweet. Man, that's so sweet. Well listening,

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<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna keep you too long. We know you

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<v Speaker 1>still got more work to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Here. We have two games left in the season. This

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<v Speaker 2>is iow camera right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Once you look into this camera right here, talk

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<v Speaker 1>directly to the command of fans and tell them why

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<v Speaker 1>these last two games are so important and why they

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<v Speaker 1>need to pack out FedEx feel for you guys and

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<v Speaker 1>get real loud.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, when it comes to this team, you know

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<v Speaker 4>we have a lot to build on, We have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of potential to go forward, and I hope you all,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys understand that each and every Sunday we.

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<v Speaker 3>Give it her all no matter what.

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<v Speaker 4>Your support means a ton and so having you guys

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<v Speaker 4>there will just help us tremendously. So us as players,

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<v Speaker 4>we played for you guys. We play for the name

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<v Speaker 4>on the front of our chests and name on the

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<v Speaker 4>back of our chest. So yeah, that support for you

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<v Speaker 4>guys being there would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying, Man, we can't wait to see you guys ball

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<v Speaker 1>out these last two games. It has been an exciting

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<v Speaker 1>season watching you grow as a player, man, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure you're gonna just get even better now that you're

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<v Speaker 1>a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Man say, we appreciate your time, Bro, appreciate you you

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<v Speaker 2>so much. Man's fading.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Next Man Up Podcast, and our next

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<v Speaker 1>Man Up is no other than our big man Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>God's be saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so Sank. You appreciate your guys.

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