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Speaker 3: Rory, you fly a lot? What's your airline?

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Speaker 4: I fly Delta a lot and I fly United second

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Speaker 4: I fly so much for stand up that I have

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Speaker 1: Man, I don't think I've ever met anyone with diamond

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Speaker 1: Fall, Coming to Quibby, Coming to Quibbi, Flight attendant Mayhem.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't keep his pants on. Perfect Historian.

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Speaker 1: More this week on Crimeless, Hello and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: crime Lists, the podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of

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Speaker 1: the world dumbest criminal while also aspiring to reach diamond.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Rory, yep, I'm gonna mix things up this week

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Speaker 3: We're getting montrealed over here. They're changing the rules.

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Speaker 4: See that's why you know here in America because of

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Speaker 3: And that's what this is.

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Speaker 3: Brought you know, now it's gonna be on you karmicley.

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Speaker 4: And I'll never forget the captain getting on the intercom

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Speaker 3: That is so so awesome.

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Speaker 4: Basically that move was how do I get the whole

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Speaker 4: when we landed, they were like, nobody stand up at all,

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Speaker 3: Worst decision he ever made.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, first of all, that's a ball or

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: So after the break, we've got a PERV, some drug mules,

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Speaker 4: I just realized I should have made the joke that

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Speaker 5: Oh this is Corlis.

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Speaker 1: So before we move on to our second store, I

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Speaker 3: The flight attendants behaving badly cut.

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Speaker 1: Oh So, starting with the old timer of Steven Slater,

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Speaker 4: That was Christian Slater's uncle. That's right, I can't That

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Speaker 3: Yeah, does that make you feel old? I remember that.

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Speaker 4: I honestly, if you told me to guess when I

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what happens as we get older children.

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Speaker 1: It's just I'd done with my life. That guy, at

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were like, what a lunatic though, you have

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Speaker 3: Good for him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who among us hasn't overreacted after a bad

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then because we're America, our next question was.

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Speaker 3: Well, hold on what kind of beer that'll determine if

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Speaker 3: I like him or not? They were blue moons.

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Speaker 1: So flight attendants also smuggle lots of things. So back

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Speaker 3: Eh, this classic bad apple. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: They all four pled guilty and then, speaking of smuggling,

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Speaker 3: This is just a really good one.

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Speaker 1: X flight attendant caught smuggling one hundred pounds of deadly

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Speaker 3: Man, I mean that sounds very exciting.

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Speaker 1: We're even aware that there was a deadly new drug

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Speaker 3: Thank you? That's what we call being woke in the

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Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta say, the sustainability part of me

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Speaker 4: You know, reduce, reuse, recycle.

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Speaker 3: I mean you raise a good point.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's better than something synthetic or a plant.

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Speaker 4: And also it's wildly natural. All you got to do

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Speaker 3: Well, the drug is apparently called cush.

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Speaker 3: Well, stay off the cush rory.

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Speaker 4: I think if I'm writing that article, I'm never using

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Speaker 1: It is not the best word, right word, Like I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Sierra Leone, le Alone.

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Speaker 4: It's honestly the how a lot of people on Broadway

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Speaker 1: So this poor lady, a twenty one year old British

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Speaker 3: Stuff love that name, Charlotte Maylee three point.

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Speaker 1: Three million dollars worth of sweet sweet cush, and she

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Speaker 3: What does it say? What cush is? Is it like

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Speaker 1: Let's imagine it's like bricks of but it seems like

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Speaker 4: I'm just honestly picturing, like completely like just gnarled bone.

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Speaker 3: Well, she gets pinched in Sri Lanka.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen Broke Down Palace starring

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Speaker 4: Oh no, okay, so yeah, this is intense. This lady's

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Speaker 3: So yeah. As of a few weeks ago, she was

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Speaker 1: Her accommodations at a jail north of Colombo, where she

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not comfortable, but probably good for your back.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to guess what her defense was?

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Speaker 4: She she thought it was just human bone and she

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Speaker 3: Close, she says, someone shut up. There's no way that's close.

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Speaker 3: It's not It's not close at all.

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Speaker 4: Oh that sounds like a new drug. I don't even

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Speaker 4: know about that new drug you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: She also implied she knew who had planted the drugs

448
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Speaker 1: but wouldn't name them.

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Speaker 3: She's not snitching. I feel like that's more suspicious.

450
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 4: Actually, I feel like she's trying to play both sides there.

451
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Speaker 4: I did not know about them, slash, I know who

452
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 4: put them there, and I'll never tell you. It's like

453
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Speaker 4: so you maybe knew about them.

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Speaker 1: Moving on, the story I really wanted to tell you

455
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 1: about here in Act two wasn't a crime exactly, or

456
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Speaker 1: at least it's not about a crime that anyone was

457
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Speaker 1: charged with. It does, however, involve an arrest, a citizen's arrest,

458
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Speaker 1: which is always the best kind.

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Speaker 3: I have so many good I have questions about this, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So, in early June of this year, twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: a frequent traveler website called One Mile at a Time

462
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Speaker 1: reported on a Reddit post that was later deleted, but

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Speaker 1: not before the writer of this post saw it and

464
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Speaker 1: posted screenshots. Here's what that One Mile at a Time

465
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Speaker 1: post reports a flight attendant and a major US airline

466
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Speaker 1: claims to have been suspended after being accused of assault

467
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Speaker 1: and unlawful detention for conducting a citizen's arrest on a colleague.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, this is good. Two of the details here.

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Speaker 1: So the light lead flight attendant on some unnamed airline,

470
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Speaker 1: posting to a flight attendant subreddit, claimed to have been

471
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Speaker 1: suspended for attempting a citizen's arrest.

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Speaker 3: Dork behavior, but I'm here for it.

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Speaker 1: This particular attendant posted in search of advice from her peers,

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Speaker 1: thinking that she was in the right.

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Speaker 3: Here's what she wrote.

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Speaker 1: I always fly a lead, but I like to keep

477
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Speaker 1: on top of everything that's happening in my cabin. So

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Speaker 1: I went to the AFT galley and inspected the carts

479
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Speaker 1: and made sure everything was packed up and completed according

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Speaker 1: to company policy. I gotta say, so far, great employee.

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Speaker 1: Thankfully it was which saved me needing to file an

482
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Speaker 1: incident report. And I counted there were four snack boxes remaining. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so just for Starter's total control freak.

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Speaker 3: But you're right.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure her boss would be like a little annoying,

486
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Speaker 1: but good job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she goes on.

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Speaker 1: Context for this passage is that one of the other

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Speaker 1: flight attendants had apparently mentioned to being hungry and forgetting

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Speaker 1: to pack lunch.

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Speaker 3: I think you can see what this is going.

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Speaker 4: I already love how low level nothing this crime is.

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Speaker 3: So okay, this this person continues.

494
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Speaker 1: So to ensure the security of company property on the discent,

495
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Speaker 1: I went to double check the carts and found there

496
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Speaker 1: were only three snack boxes left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did not raise it with the crew member, but

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Speaker 1: immediately rang the captain and requested a supervisor meet us.

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Speaker 3: At the gate.

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Speaker 1: By the time all passengers had disembarked, the supervisor had

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Speaker 1: still not arrived, So I told the crew they were

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Speaker 1: unable to leave, and they were not under any circumstances

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Speaker 1: to touch or move their baggage.

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Speaker 3: You get what's happening here.

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Speaker 1: The nark counts the snack boxes, finds one missing, decides

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Speaker 1: it was her hungry pal calls ahead.

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Speaker 3: And wants to have this person arrested.

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Speaker 4: I guess this is so extreme for a something that's

510
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Speaker 4: valued it I think ten dollars and overpriced by eight dollars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say that's retail. I think the

512
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Speaker 1: value of that thing is like two bucks. You're right,

513
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Speaker 1: so not surprisingly, the other slight attendant is like fuck

514
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Speaker 1: this and tries to leave, at which point the lead attendant,

515
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Speaker 1: the writer of this post, blocked the door with a

516
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Speaker 1: service cart.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this is absurd.

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Speaker 3: Who are we siding with here?

519
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,719
Speaker 4: Or remember in the eighties, every movie and TV show

520
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: there would be a moment where someone's like, I'm making

521
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Speaker 4: a citizen's arrest. Like you and I grew up in

522
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 4: a world where we thought that was like a thing

523
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Speaker 4: that we would one day get to do. Exactly and

524
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Speaker 4: now we're like, well, no, that's absurd.

525
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Speaker 3: You'll get killed. And also there goes my day. What

526
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Speaker 3: am I doing?

527
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Speaker 4: Like this is crazy to hold up people's lives for

528
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Speaker 4: the like, had this been something more critical, I go, oh,

529
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Speaker 4: I get it, you know, but one snackbox.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: So here's the kicker from one mile at a time.

532
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Speaker 1: When a supervisor did finally arrive, no missing snack boxes

533
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Speaker 1: or other service items were found. Several days later, the

534
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Speaker 1: flight attendant got a call from the airline in forming

535
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Speaker 1: her she was being suspended for assault, bullying, and unlawful detention.

536
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Speaker 3: Wait, they found the snackbox. It was never missing to

537
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Speaker 3: begin with, Oh my.

538
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: God, I mean the trauma, like I said the greatest

539
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Speaker 1: Karen in flight attendant.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not just a manufactured incident. I mean, good riddance

541
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Speaker 4: to that narc.

542
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Speaker 1: What a what a crazy like just trying to imagine

543
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Speaker 1: getting inside the head of that person.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine being on that flight and being like, yeah, no,

545
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Speaker 4: one's got the snack box. Bro, I got I'm trying

546
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 4: to go home, or I've got another flight.

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Speaker 3: Imagine holding up another flight when.

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Speaker 4: Now imagine that every time you're at the airport, Like

549
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: the crew isn't here yet. Just imagine that it's because

550
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 4: they're on a flight being accused of stealing some slim

551
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Speaker 4: gems and captain's rapers.

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Speaker 1: One snack box, yeah.

553
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: Some bad olives, one piece of chocolate.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean just incredible. I'm an all timer. After

555
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: the break, Lane makes us do math or.

556
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: Something, Lane games?

557
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 3: Lane? What are we doing this week? Math or something

558
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: with Lane?

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Speaker 6: Today?

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Speaker 7: For our final segment, we're going to be exploring an

561
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Speaker 7: age old question, a riddle that court chesters and jokers

562
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 7: have posed for centuries, delighting kings and queens and common

563
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Speaker 7: folk alike.

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Speaker 6: And that question is.

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Speaker 7: Wait for it while I share sounds.

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Speaker 3: What's the deal with airplane for?

567
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Speaker 6: Was that worth it? Was that worth the wait?

568
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Speaker 3: It was? I don't know if that was Jerry or

569
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: a impression of Jerry.

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Speaker 6: It was Jerry himself?

571
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Speaker 3: That was that.

572
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Speaker 4: Sounded like Jerry doing an impression of Jerry. I agree,

573
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Speaker 4: like turned it up a notch.

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Speaker 7: So Rory as the professional comedian, I feel like this

575
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Speaker 7: is your time to shine. You should know the deal

576
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Speaker 7: with airplane food.

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Speaker 3: I know the deal.

578
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: There's so many comics in the eighties during the comedy

579
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Speaker 4: Boom who were traveling all the time, and this is

580
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: also a time when they just weren't figuring out how

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Speaker 4: to economically even have good food on an airplane or

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Speaker 4: any kind of like food. There's no like snack box

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Speaker 4: or peanuts, or maybe peanuts was like as far as

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Speaker 4: it ever went. And then I've told people that I

585
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 4: genuinely in my heart believe this. There were so many

586
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Speaker 4: jokes through stand up comedy about airline food that I

587
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Speaker 4: think that made airlines actually try to go, Okay, let's

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Speaker 4: fix the food.

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Speaker 1: So your theory is that stand up comics saved are

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Speaker 1: responsible for us having better food?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, cause I gotta say I do think every now

592
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 4: and then because I fly Delta all the time, I

593
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Speaker 4: get upgraded on if there's a seat, there's a good

594
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Speaker 4: chance that's going to go to me. And I have

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Speaker 4: eaten the food and it's pretty good. It's actually pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Now, all right, Lane? What is the quiz?

597
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Speaker 6: Just some trivia questions about in flight meals.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, here we go. I know Rory is

599
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: gonna kill me on this.

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Speaker 6: It's more about like what is the deal with airline food?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I think the general opinion is that it's bad. But

603
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Speaker 7: I do agree with you, Rory. I have had some

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Speaker 7: tasty inflat meals, so things are changing. But my first question,

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of reasons why air line food can

606
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Speaker 7: taste bad, but science has given us a few.

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Speaker 6: Can you name any of them.

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Speaker 3: As to why it tastes bad?

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00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Preservation, how the food gets preserved. That's what I was

611
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: going to say too.

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Speaker 7: You're not wrong, but you're not right.

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Speaker 3: That's been my whole life, to be quite frank.

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Speaker 7: So I'm looking for low air pressure, lack of humidity,

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Speaker 7: and high noise levels actually affects how food tastes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So the low air pressure and low humidity dries out

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Speaker 7: your nasal passages, which like reduces your sense of smell,

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Speaker 7: which affects how food tastes. And it also dries your

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Speaker 7: food out. And high noise levels from the aircraft can

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Speaker 7: dampen your taste buds and we can your enjoyment of

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Speaker 7: the meal. So if you have noise canceling headphones on

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Speaker 7: an airplane, it'll actually make your food taste better.

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Speaker 4: WHOA, oh my god, I wear noise canceling That's why I, guys,

625
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Speaker 4: I'm out there saying this food tastes good and it's

626
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Speaker 4: fucking slop.

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Speaker 3: It's shit. People sitting next to me, like, this guy

628
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Speaker 3: is just inhaling it.

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Speaker 7: To your answer, the meals are not really fresh. How

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Speaker 7: long in advance are they typically prepared?

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Speaker 3: Oh god, this is maybe something we don't want to know.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say average of two weeks.

633
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say no, no more than one week.

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Speaker 7: Wow, you guys, you really you're like five years ten

635
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Speaker 7: hours before?

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Speaker 3: Okay? That good? Okay, thank god.

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Speaker 6: Had no faith of that.

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Speaker 7: But sometimes they're frozen and can be made up to

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Speaker 7: seventy two hours in advance.

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Speaker 6: Wow, don't worry.

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Speaker 7: There are five tastes that humans can perceive, sweet, salty, bitter, sour,

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Speaker 7: and umami.

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Speaker 6: Which one works best for the air?

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Speaker 3: Salty sweet, I'm looking for umami. I've never understood what

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Speaker 3: that one is.

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Speaker 7: It's like savory. Okay, So if you're like looking at

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Speaker 7: a menu and you have a choice, look for things

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Speaker 7: like anchovy, mushroom, age, cheese, all very advertising soundings.

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Speaker 3: The most useful episode of Crimeless ever.

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Speaker 6: Yeah truly.

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Speaker 7: One beverage is popular on planes simply because it tastes

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Speaker 7: better thirty thousand feet in the air, which beverage is that?

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Speaker 4: Oh shit, I will say, even though this is not

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Speaker 4: where you're asking, people always say don't get coffee on

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Speaker 4: a plane because of the water filtration.

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Speaker 6: I did read that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, good.

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Speaker 1: I think it's ginger ale because up until recent years,

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Speaker 1: when I've started seeing people drink ginger ale again, for

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Speaker 1: most of my life, the only place I ever saw

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Speaker 1: ginger ale consume was on airplanes.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, ginger ale, I think is a

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Speaker 4: good guess. People always get like coke or ginger Maybe coke.

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Speaker 4: I'll go coke just to mix it up.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking for tomato juice.

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Speaker 4: Oh you didn't let me finish. Oh I'm coke flavored

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Speaker 4: tomato juice.

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Speaker 7: Got aup more. Airline food used to be fancier and

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Speaker 7: pre Reagan air flying passengers could enjoy roast beef are

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Speaker 7: carved from a trolley in the aisle h economy, passengers

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Speaker 7: could get stuff guinea hen caviar.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was back when companies respected their customers.

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Speaker 3: That's not really, that's not a thing anymore. Have you

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Speaker 3: ever seen those pictures of like what first class eating

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Speaker 3: looked like. It looks like a restaurant.

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Speaker 7: Why were the food options so much better back then?

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Speaker 7: This is according to a guy who wrote a book

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Speaker 7: about this.

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Speaker 4: I think it's because it used to be so much

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Speaker 4: more exotic to fly, and it used to be so

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Speaker 4: much more I mean, that's why I think people were

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Speaker 4: dressed up to go on to a flight, because it

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Speaker 4: was like this exotic, upper class experience.

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Speaker 3: I agree, and I think probably was much more expensive

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Speaker 3: for that reason.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: It was just something that only you either did it

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Speaker 1: so infrequently that you saved up for.

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Speaker 3: It, or you were rich. Yeah. Yeah, are we right, Lane? No?

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Speaker 3: But can you I was right?

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Speaker 7: Ror, You've gotten all these answers, correct, ginger Ale. It's

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Speaker 7: most likely because airlines in the era were prohibited from

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Speaker 7: competing on price, so the only way they could compete

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Speaker 7: was on quality of service. So the better the food,

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Speaker 7: they're more likely they are to get people to buy

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Speaker 7: ticket to their airline.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine a world where that was the case.

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Speaker 1: Right, where your business should win customers by trying to

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Speaker 1: be really good at its job instead of just being

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Speaker 1: the cheapest option.

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So now we have eleven dollars for dry

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Speaker 7: cheese and sad grapes so yep.

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Speaker 3: Flight attendants going to war over a snack box.

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Speaker 4: That's the old They don't make get like they used to.

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Speaker 4: And the people who say that you want to go

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Speaker 4: well when you vote for people who eliminate accountability, why would.

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Speaker 3: Anything be like it used to be?

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Speaker 4: Slam mic drop follow me on all the socials.

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Speaker 7: Airlines can save a lot of money by cutting back

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Speaker 7: on their menu, as we probably have guessed by now.

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Speaker 7: For example, American Airlines saved two hundred and ten thousand

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Speaker 7: dollars a year by changing what part of their menu.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to give you multiple choice. A getting rid

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Speaker 7: of kool aid is a drink option, B serving nuts

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Speaker 7: cold instead of warmed up, or see removing a single

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Speaker 7: strawberry from their fruit salads.

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Speaker 3: Oo, I bet it's gonna be something like C.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go cold nuts because it feels like

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Speaker 1: the obvious one, and I'm probably wrong.

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Speaker 7: It's see Rory's right, Yes, a single strawberry from their

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Speaker 7: first class fruit salad.

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Speaker 3: Two hundred grand.

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't be I stopped eating fruit all together, and

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Speaker 4: I have saved five hundred thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 3: In my home.

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Speaker 7: All right, last question, So, despite all of the things

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Speaker 7: we've talked about. Airline food is generally safe and fine

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Speaker 7: to eat. Which of the following items, though, caused headline

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Speaker 7: making widespread illness aboard planes A ham and cheese omelets,

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Speaker 7: B tabioca pudding or see shrimp.

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Speaker 1: Shrimp se tabioca.

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Speaker 6: Guys are both right because it was all of the above.

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Speaker 4: It did feel all of the above esque after all this.

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Speaker 7: Do you have a different answer to what's to deal

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Speaker 7: with airplane food?

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Speaker 4: I mean, no, I still like my original answer, even

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Speaker 4: if someone says that's not what the case was. But

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Speaker 4: I gotta say I'm now fascinated to know that ten

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Speaker 4: hours that makes me feel a lot better about the food. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I agree, And also like I've never considered literally our

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Speaker 4: own ears affecting our taste buds. That's so that's maybe

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Speaker 4: the most interesting takeaway for me.

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Speaker 1: The signs of sound Yeah, going to be that door

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Speaker 1: in first class food.

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Speaker 3: All right, We'll see you in there.

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