Speaker 1: You guys doing all right.
Speaker 2: Before we get on the recorders, they want into air
Speaker 2: any duty laundry.
Speaker 1: Shit, not great, man, it's not great. Miles and I
Speaker 1: haven't spoken off Mike in five years.
Speaker 2: Fuck, I know how that goes to. I so could
Speaker 2: sympathize with you on that.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of this guy. I fucking hate
Speaker 1: each other this guy, Yeah, he's not. We're basically we're
Speaker 1: the Galler brothers. We're the Gallagher brothers.
Speaker 3: This podcast is Oasis and I don't even know why
Speaker 3: we're here.
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet. Wol that's my best Liam Orden, Noel,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Hello. They whack on, tell the end
Speaker 1: none in a minute.
Speaker 4: Now, Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, sixty
Speaker 4: six episode.
Speaker 1: It's the production of iHeart Radios podcast We take Deep
Speaker 1: to Havenue American Shared Consciouences. It's a podcast with a
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Who the hell's ever heard such a thing
Speaker 1: at Daily Zeitgey's pod on YouTube. But I don't think
Speaker 1: we have a new episode this week, but we got
Speaker 1: an old one and it was live, and that one
Speaker 1: was pretty easy. We were like, we should try a
Speaker 1: live episode. It's Jacquise, it's Miles we are in the
Speaker 1: studio together talking about smoking aft and a lot of
Speaker 1: Jesus stuff. For some reason, every time we do a
Speaker 1: video episode Jesus.
Speaker 3: I know it's funny because in the one with Blake
Speaker 3: you reference it's like why does this always happen? But
Speaker 3: that people don't realize people hadn't seen the Jack episode
Speaker 3: we did where it.
Speaker 1: All kicked off. Yeah, yeah, the Blake episode. We were
Speaker 1: talking about how like his he he claims that he
Speaker 1: was sacrificing by washing people's feet, but actually he he
Speaker 1: a freaking a freak from And in this one it's
Speaker 1: even worse stuff that my parents would be even more
Speaker 1: ashamed to actually be able to hear me and see
Speaker 1: me say. In this case, so glad to do that.
Speaker 1: It is Friday, November twenty ninth, twenty twenty four, remember
Speaker 1: day after Thanksgiving to everyone lick Friday.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is, it is.
Speaker 1: It is time to get those deals.
Speaker 3: There's so many weird just things that are just the
Speaker 3: day after thing, Like obviously there's like buy Nothing Day
Speaker 3: like discourage mass consumption. Obviously Black Friday to encourage mass consumption.
Speaker 1: There's also you're welcome Giving Day. What the fuck is
Speaker 1: this it's basically just saying, hey, just say, why don't
Speaker 1: we all remember to say you're welcome today, which sounds
Speaker 1: like things are falling apart. If you know I said that,
Speaker 1: people don't say thank you. Okay, yeah, I'm a big welcome. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're welcome. Yes, you're to do it with someone they
Speaker 1: haven't even gone through yet. You're welcome. I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: not going in there, but all right, you're welcome. You're welcome. Uh.
Speaker 3: It's also National Dative American Heritage Day. I think that's
Speaker 3: pretty important. National day of listening and National flossing Day.
Speaker 3: You got you got it all oral hygiene remembering, yeah,
Speaker 3: the absolute decimation of Indigenous people of America, and getting
Speaker 3: a fucking sick deal on a flat screen.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. The American way, the American Way. My name
Speaker 1: is Jack O'Brien aka Hot Frosty Stud. I'm gonna keep
Speaker 1: on fucking the snow man. That's dumb.
Speaker 5: I'm a get dick down by a carrot that comes.
Speaker 5: I want the ice dickle of the Hot Frosty Stud.
Speaker 5: Hot Frosty Stud.
Speaker 1: Courtesy A Christy. I'm a Gucci man on the discord
Speaker 1: one of the greats to ever do it. I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, mister
Speaker 1: Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray AKA.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel my name is but but Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: My name is Miles of Gray.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Hannah remicview Hannah's in a minute.
Speaker 1: Oh that is true about you asting what Sometimes you
Speaker 1: do feel like your name is Miles. Sometimes I do
Speaker 1: feel that way. Media handles. Yeah, I stayed in public.
Speaker 1: When I go to John Juice, name is this the
Speaker 1: year in two thousand and seventeen, We've got an AKA
Speaker 1: from Christy Amagucci Man and Hannah Amic viewing Disco. I
Speaker 1: know the ogs. I guess Discord got a salute around,
Speaker 1: but two of those oldest and finest.
Speaker 3: I was back in the Hannah Soultis era.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Anyways, Miles, We're thrilled to be joined in our third
Speaker 1: teap one of our favorite guests. He co hosts the
Speaker 1: podcast The Worst Idea of All Time with Guy Montgomery.
Speaker 1: He's very funny, stand up comedian, TV writer, producer, chat
Speaker 1: show host. Welcome back to the show, the hilarious, the
Speaker 1: talented Tim bet Hello.
Speaker 2: I want to give myself a singing name, referencing intro
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: I want to beat the crew.
Speaker 2: Where's your tim bet?
Speaker 1: Where's your tim bet? That's Spiceman Jacks for everybody. Where's
Speaker 1: your tim bat? Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3: That's not the first time we've started singing that song
Speaker 3: out loud because I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that basement checkstrack too. Well, now you will
Speaker 1: think of man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ed Zitron goes by. Where's your edge at?
Speaker 1: God? Damn it? Someone go to me? But where's your
Speaker 1: tim bet? I mean, yeah, surely I can claim the throne.
Speaker 1: Hold on, get him on the phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, your father. Yeah, I realized I saw
Speaker 3: that on social media. Congratulations to you.
Speaker 1: I think the last time you were on you were
Speaker 1: expecting and congratulations. Thank you so much. Good.
Speaker 2: I've got two one and seven months old and just
Speaker 2: got out of hospital. The other one has a broken leg.
Speaker 2: Who is like the house of a war zone.
Speaker 3: Oh no, how do you? How did what kind of
Speaker 3: kid follow? Did your kid have to break the leg?
Speaker 2: This sucks man trampoline, which is an old classic.
Speaker 1: But he didn't even fall off.
Speaker 2: There was just there was like half a dozen kids
Speaker 2: on there and an adult who now feels very bad.
Speaker 2: It wasn't me who equidently double bounced them, and it
Speaker 2: just like a like a ground shock up his leg
Speaker 2: and gave him a fracture.
Speaker 1: And now he's got this cask that goes the whole
Speaker 1: way up his leg. The double bounce was so power
Speaker 1: were full of broke his leg even without jumping. Without
Speaker 1: these there is but you know, yeah something yeah, candy
Speaker 1: canes at that point, Actually, what kind of what kind
Speaker 1: of litigation? Yeah, well, what's your uh what's your lawyer
Speaker 1: doing to uh sue that motherfuckerfect Jacob, I'm sorry, you're
Speaker 1: not in America.
Speaker 2: We're not We're not so bike crude as you you Yankees.
Speaker 2: We have a different system here.
Speaker 1: Brother would see that leg break and my eyes would
Speaker 1: turn into dollars signs.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would just tell like you stay down state,
Speaker 3: down state out, stay down state.
Speaker 1: You can't walk, You can't walk? Can the world we have?
Speaker 2: Your son gets a broken leg and you go yes, chang.
Speaker 1: Okay, spin in two dollars signs. I think daddy's gonna
Speaker 1: get twenty inch rims.
Speaker 2: This are pretty good. Well, I'm real it sucks and
Speaker 2: for real sucks. Yeah, with the broken leg you've got
Speaker 2: to carry them everywhere and they.
Speaker 1: Can't go to here anymore. Yeah, oh right, right, oh
Speaker 1: well that's brutal. And I'm sorry about you know, your
Speaker 1: youngest being in the hospital.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's it keeps happening. He's got it. It's
Speaker 2: just like bronchi elitis. Yeah, so it'll be sweet airs,
Speaker 2: but yeah, never.
Speaker 1: Goo the word. Yeah, some of the worst time my life.
Speaker 1: In the spirit of.
Speaker 2: You know, the day after Thanksgiving, I'm very thankful to
Speaker 2: have my beautiful boys. It is very anchoring when the world,
Speaker 2: you know, it gets a little crazy. Just look at
Speaker 2: these two little kids. You're like, you fuckers are so cute,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: It's just truly, I find myself doing that so much nowadays.
Speaker 3: I'm saying looking at a monitor and I'm like, you're
Speaker 3: so peaceful you sleep there, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna do whatever I gotta do. I'm gonna do whatever
Speaker 1: I gotta do, exactly.
Speaker 2: Ignore everything happening outside of these walls.
Speaker 1: Right right, there's more in a lazy river with my
Speaker 1: six year old and eight year old just chasing them around.
Speaker 1: It was a fucking blast. Jack. That is a postcard, guys,
Speaker 1: And I'm already one virgin Pina Colada deep so in
Speaker 1: my voice.
Speaker 3: But all that sugar jack, your skin, be careful you
Speaker 3: get simples.
Speaker 1: You and my dad, I think, are the only people
Speaker 1: who think that's true. Did I just do a dad, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one of my dad's things. It was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I had terrible skin in high school because I was
Speaker 1: drinking all this soda pop. I'm like that right, that's
Speaker 1: why I think you were just in high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it could just be your skin type. You were
Speaker 1: more fun to acne maybe yeah.
Speaker 2: Also was I got heaps of acany from alcohol and
Speaker 2: I didn't figure it out until I was like twenty five.
Speaker 2: But in New Zealand, you start drinking pretty young here,
Speaker 2: and I think it's a teenager. Really screwed me up,
Speaker 2: and then I hate to take a break on antibiotics
Speaker 2: or something in my skin clean up.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, true, Wow, it's boots. Was it
Speaker 1: the sugar and it was turning into in my body?
Speaker 1: Oh maybe it is the sugar. Goddamn. Yeah. All right, Tim,
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: and ask you for more medical breakthroughs in a moment.
Speaker 1: But first, a couple of stories we're talking about. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk about the social media ban for children
Speaker 1: under what is it? Twelve sixteen in Australia. It feels
Speaker 1: like another thing that while the efficacy of the band
Speaker 1: might come into question, it does feel like a thing
Speaker 1: where it's like that is that country cares about their
Speaker 1: people more than the corporations that they do business with.
Speaker 1: It reminds me kind of reminds me of the gun
Speaker 1: buy back in a weird way. Not that weird, actually,
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that's I guess that's what a government
Speaker 1: would do, right.
Speaker 4: Like.
Speaker 1: Get rid of it. Right? Oh wait, but you can
Speaker 1: just do that? Wow? Can is the question? Yeah? Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is the question. We'll talk about it. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about dictionary dot com fumbling the word of the year
Speaker 1: again for twenty twenty four, all that plenty more. But
Speaker 1: first tim we do like to ask our guest, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history that's revealing about who
Speaker 1: you are? I googled what is a toady?
Speaker 2: Because I am so I'm in like a maximum dad
Speaker 2: zone at the moment and I just feel like I
Speaker 2: am disconnected from the culture. But toty is one of
Speaker 2: those things that's coming up a lot. My algorithm is
Speaker 2: delivering me talk show podcast where people accusing other people
Speaker 2: of being toadies. I'm seeing the odd CNN clip where
Speaker 2: people are talking about Trump totis.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, brand new, fresh term to answer my lexicon, So
Speaker 2: I had to google it.
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what Google told me? It
Speaker 1: was you guys? Mustn't you guys know what it is? Obviously?
Speaker 1: I'm like to that, soundly did possum king that band? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what my experience with the band that
Speaker 1: did pass some key. That's truly it. I think Rocket Yeah,
Speaker 1: or the cute Little Toads. It makes me feel a
Speaker 1: lot better about my ignorance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is this is the place to come
Speaker 3: to feel better about your ignorance for sure. Wait so yeah,
Speaker 3: just very inform us illuminate this for us.
Speaker 2: According to Google's Weird New AI version of Giving You
Speaker 2: Answers on ship, it is tody is a person who
Speaker 2: flatters or shows excessive respect to someone more important in
Speaker 2: order to gain their favor or help.
Speaker 1: The term is informal and disapproving. Ah. Yes, it's like
Speaker 1: a boot sucker. I think that's the word's been happening
Speaker 1: a lot in the US. Yeah, okay, but Tody's kind
Speaker 1: of a cute, cuter version of that. I think, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what if boot Thrower was had more of like a
Speaker 1: studio jiebi vibe, you know, like.
Speaker 3: I know, and it completely like defangs the intent of
Speaker 3: calling someone that too, And it's like, yeah, a little Tody,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna I'll sell out my values for
Speaker 3: like whatever, my own personal game.
Speaker 1: You know, it's true. It's too cute. I do love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just makes me feel better about being a complete
Speaker 1: ass kisser who you know. I for one, I think
Speaker 1: we need to give this Trump administration a chance. We
Speaker 1: don't know, we don't know what if it's good. What
Speaker 1: if it's good? You guys, I mean, he's very rich.
Speaker 1: He must know what he's doing. I don't know. I'm trying.
Speaker 1: This is my best attempt at channeling a Trump Tody.
Speaker 1: Is that what they said? Yeah, she's he's smarter than you.
Speaker 1: If you were smart, you'd have a billion dollars.
Speaker 2: The Tody play right now surely is trying to get
Speaker 2: a carved out from the tariff.
Speaker 1: And you take Graff's coming in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I sort of like had uh briefly looked
Speaker 2: into this yesterday. It seems like the players this seems
Speaker 2: like an absolutely cataclysmically stupid bit of economic policy. For
Speaker 2: what it actually is is giving the administration and ability
Speaker 2: to pick and choose winners, like to an intense degree,
Speaker 2: because if they can select specific companies to have have
Speaker 2: an exclusion or a carve out, it's it's like they're
Speaker 2: just tipping the scales. So it blows my mind that
Speaker 2: these are the you know, formerly the free market flag waivers,
Speaker 2: because it's just this huge distortion, complete distortion of market
Speaker 2: so that they can pick it's inevitable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that very embrace of just free market capitalism leads
Speaker 3: to the stage of it we're like, oh, I guess
Speaker 3: now it's not working from oh well, yeah, gets you pick,
Speaker 3: yeah market because thats made sketches made the Trump shoe
Speaker 3: and therefore they're the only shoes it's gonna cost under
Speaker 3: seven hundred dollars in the United States from now on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to the free market, baby. There's that I mean.
Speaker 3: And there's also just like all the economic instability that
Speaker 3: it provides to you know again for the same reason, right,
Speaker 3: because if certain businesses or industries go down. It's right
Speaker 3: for the picking. For the oligarchy too.
Speaker 1: For us.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, the oligarchy, the tities with the little rock
Speaker 2: sex over their shoulders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all you need is a ten million dollar buy
Speaker 1: in to have dinner once at mar A Lago, and
Speaker 1: then you know you're good.
Speaker 3: You can own our telecoms industry.
Speaker 1: If you want care, do whatever you want. Truly, ah,
Speaker 1: it is it's like we hear about what like how
Speaker 1: Russia got the way it is today, and it was
Speaker 1: like the breakup of the Soviet Union, and they just
Speaker 1: had like these coupons that were like all right, ten
Speaker 1: of these coupons and you have like the entire gas
Speaker 1: industry ten of these coupons, and like the you would
Speaker 1: have the ability, and they like sent people in like
Speaker 1: at a time when nobody understood the power of the
Speaker 1: coupons and like even had people like dress up as
Speaker 1: like you know, unhused people are like drifters and we're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: i'll buy that off you for like twenty dollars, and
Speaker 1: then they like consolidated all the power. It really feels
Speaker 1: like we're in that moment in America where it's just
Speaker 1: gonna except it's like not with none of the fun
Speaker 1: you know, dress up of that story. Instead, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be rich businessmen paying to eat dinner with Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and then owning giant chunks of the US economy.
Speaker 2: I have to put this on the record, you guys.
Speaker 2: I know, I know times are tough and things are
Speaker 2: pretty blank. I got a lot of faith in you
Speaker 2: guys as country. I think, yeah, like things are going
Speaker 2: to be difficult and shitty and a lot of people
Speaker 2: are going to be effected. But I listen, man, America
Speaker 2: is a crazy place, and one of my favorite things
Speaker 2: about it is what a patchwork it is. And I
Speaker 2: don't this is what I love about US elections, Like
Speaker 2: it's impossible to hack them because they're so fucking patchwork
Speaker 2: and so decentralized and everyone is just doing completely their
Speaker 2: own thing that it actually makes it really difficult to
Speaker 2: commit like a network wide wholesale election fraud style thing.
Speaker 2: It's the same with your whole country, man, Like, she's
Speaker 2: just gonna get tricky for four years. But just by
Speaker 2: virtue of you guys being such a great collection of
Speaker 2: messy bitches, I've got full faith you're going to come
Speaker 2: out the other side of it.
Speaker 3: It's going to be hard to get everyone in line,
Speaker 3: because I mean, like even in there's already infighting with
Speaker 3: like wings of the Republican Party where people who wanted
Speaker 3: Trump out, Like this guy's gonna fucking try and take
Speaker 3: over the Like I add my own fucking goals of
Speaker 3: being godhead, like what So, I mean that's the one
Speaker 3: thing and count on, we're really good at getting pissed off.
Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see how that manifests in the
Speaker 1: long term.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was nice to hear that assessment from
Speaker 3: the outside because every.
Speaker 2: Every American I've met in real life has been a
Speaker 2: good person. This is like I think, you know, the
Speaker 2: media will constantly throw you like the very worst people.
Speaker 2: Oh well they're not just an American thing, obviously, that's
Speaker 2: the kind of the news's job. But like I just
Speaker 2: got back from Vegas. Everyone I met fantastic, from the
Speaker 2: uber driver, take a drug dealer to the croupier, just
Speaker 2: stand up people through and through.
Speaker 1: Well, you're hanging out with the best professions, right, It's true. Yea,
Speaker 1: the Golden Trio can't go wrong with Vegas drug dealers.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2: The current search for u APS, a completely non political,
Speaker 2: potentially human uniting quest to see if we're alone in
Speaker 2: the universe.
Speaker 1: That has gotten really fricking interesting the last few years.
Speaker 1: Whereas you on your like do you because we are fans,
Speaker 1: were interested, but I also don't really know where we stand,
Speaker 1: like in terms of you do you believe that? Did
Speaker 1: you believe like the David Grunt testimony at the.
Speaker 2: David Grush I actually do believe him. Like he's just
Speaker 2: the and I've seen long form interviews with him and stuff.
Speaker 2: He's just the right level of I think he like
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is light whatsoever. I think he
Speaker 2: possibly has set himself with a friend of his has
Speaker 2: said he's kind of slightly autistic in a way where
Speaker 2: you can really trust him because he very much values
Speaker 2: detail and the truth, and like that guy really seems
Speaker 2: to be an incredibly trustworthy source of what he's saying.
Speaker 2: Lou Alexander, I don't know what the fuck that guy's dealers.
Speaker 1: That guys.
Speaker 2: I smell a rat there's something.
Speaker 1: But I mean, it seems like his endgame is like
Speaker 1: we need bigger guns to shoot the alien.
Speaker 2: And there's a thing, right, Lou Alexander if people don't
Speaker 2: know he's one of the sort of foremost people who's
Speaker 2: been blowing the lead on the current UAP phenomenon and
Speaker 2: bringing these documents to beer and talking to Congress and stuff.
Speaker 2: But I think this is the same with Grush, but
Speaker 2: the seem something grubbier about it with Alexander that everything
Speaker 2: he sees has to get approved by the Department of Defense.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, then why are they telling us this,
Speaker 2: Like they don't generally they're not big fans of just
Speaker 2: full disclosure and transparency. Usually they have an agenda behind
Speaker 2: releasing information like that. So I don't know Grush, I'm
Speaker 2: a grush boy. I'm a grush girl. I don't know
Speaker 2: what his groupies are called. Grush group Yeah networks, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean it's grush.
Speaker 1: That guy rue social hair is the main reason I distrusted,
Speaker 1: But go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, No, I mean I think with all this,
Speaker 3: like I'm I'm in that thing. We're like, bro, I
Speaker 3: need us to not be alone, like.
Speaker 6: I need this, I need this, but I also need
Speaker 6: to believe needed these motherfucken here now.
Speaker 3: But I guess the thing that I'm like, like everything,
Speaker 3: it's like I just give us some modicum of hard evidence, please,
Speaker 3: Like I just I I'm willing, I'm willing. I just
Speaker 3: need a little bit, just a little something.
Speaker 2: You got to tune in brother. The Tic TACs, the
Speaker 2: TIC take video from like three years ago. There was,
Speaker 2: of course in all these military the Fisher's coming out
Speaker 2: saying like we've got it on right eye. I saw
Speaker 2: this thing with my own two eyes. That thing doesn't
Speaker 2: fly like anything that sort of obeys the laws of physics.
Speaker 1: It's fast writing.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's the other part where it's like when
Speaker 3: we're talking about like, well we have non biologics that
Speaker 3: non humanlog yeah, non human biologics and those technologies or whatever,
Speaker 3: and talking about like this global potential network of crash
Speaker 3: recovery groups and how they send that technology to governments.
Speaker 7: Like just give me a fuck something. Just give me
Speaker 7: a fucking uniform, like a little badge from that shit.
Speaker 7: Just something a little bit more, because I think that's
Speaker 7: where most like, I think it just sort of ends
Speaker 7: with the Tic TAC videos, and that's certainly enough for
Speaker 7: me to be like, holy shit, what.
Speaker 1: But now I'm like, what's the sort of next phase
Speaker 1: of disclosure? And then when I hear all the people,
Speaker 1: all the theories of do they can't you just take
Speaker 1: care to drop all that right now, dude. I mean
Speaker 1: they gave that part too, but but really, can I
Speaker 1: just make with it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't make sense that we have alien bodies
Speaker 2: like there just seems like too big a deal to
Speaker 2: possibly be true, that we've just got alien bodies somewhere, Like.
Speaker 1: Hasn't done a press conference with one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no way he would be able to keep the
Speaker 1: lid on that.
Speaker 2: Well, they wouldn't endorse him, so he's cut them off
Speaker 2: right exactly.
Speaker 3: But I mean, so, but what do you think because
Speaker 3: Grush did say that he's like, I haven't.
Speaker 1: Seen them, but I know people that have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alexander, I think sort of walked right up to
Speaker 2: the line of saying he's basically seen them.
Speaker 1: I think, right, yeah, him too.
Speaker 3: Hey, I want to see him toote that we all want.
Speaker 1: To I want to look at I'll be cool about it.
Speaker 1: I'll be cool.
Speaker 2: I think it's underrated as it's just like there's there's
Speaker 2: so much hectic ship that's a bummer at the moment,
Speaker 2: and this is just like a very hopefully will remaining
Speaker 2: be remaining a politically neutral, exciting possibility that we can
Speaker 2: just kind of like, okay, okay, okay, I can just
Speaker 2: I know climate change is real and democracy is over,
Speaker 2: and but can I can I just think about the
Speaker 2: aliens while I smoke a joint for like thirty minutes
Speaker 2: a little for my I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, Bro, I would love to smoke a joint with
Speaker 3: a alien.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean now we're talking about bro.
Speaker 1: Maybe you go, oh shit, B I didn't know you
Speaker 1: like to get wet this isp PCP my man.
Speaker 2: Like when they sent Dennis Rodman to North Korea, Snoop
Speaker 2: Snoop Dog will be our representative of Earth to Alphastin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that makes perfect sense to me. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think that's who they would pick. They'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: can we take us to your actually Snoop dogg Right,
Speaker 1: we just get we send some like accomplished like Astronomer
Speaker 1: and they're like, do you know Snoop Dog? We love
Speaker 1: that song? Drop it like it's hot.
Speaker 3: It just hit our airwaves from twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to smoke a joint with Neil Degrass Tyson,
Speaker 2: but I would with Snoop dogg No.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, No, he's a bummer, total bummer. I feel
Speaker 1: like he would just start asking you what you thought
Speaker 1: of him in various ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have any cousins cousins?
Speaker 2: So well, you guys, this is interesting to me because
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was any I've always I've felt
Speaker 2: a little I've got mixed feelings about that dude.
Speaker 1: He gives off an interesting vibe. I feel like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't fuck with Neil maybe as a figure first
Speaker 1: of all, as a like he's apparently you know, as
Speaker 1: a person, yeah, and then also just his gener like
Speaker 1: there's a there's a fine line between people who bring
Speaker 1: additional scientific insight that makes the world more interesting and
Speaker 1: people who are just fucking haters and are just like no, no, actually,
Speaker 1: and he like just doesn't seem to have a very
Speaker 1: good instinct for making things more interesting instead, Yeah, just
Speaker 1: is there to like kind of quote back things that
Speaker 1: sound smart, or like point out things that are wrong.
Speaker 1: And it just I don't know, I'm like, what are
Speaker 1: you in it for? Then? Man, Like, why why are you?
Speaker 1: Why are we even here if you're not like on
Speaker 1: fire to like make space and science more interesting to people,
Speaker 1: What are you even doing here other than just trying
Speaker 1: to like corner the market, And like sometimes I feel
Speaker 1: like he does that, but a lot of the time
Speaker 1: it just feels like he's just trying to point out
Speaker 1: when shit is wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd never put my finger on it before, but
Speaker 2: it's like an own the Libs style of scientific education.
Speaker 1: Owned. He just shows up laces as a big stamp opened.
Speaker 1: You've been degrassed. Yeah, Neil degrass. Tyson's punch out the
Speaker 1: worst any scam. Let's uh, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back, We'll do your overrated. We'll do a
Speaker 1: couple of stories and we're back and Tim, we do
Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, as you might know, what
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 2: I had picked this before and now I think it's
Speaker 2: too much of Obama. But I'm going to bring it
Speaker 2: up because my brain is so sleep deprived. I can't
Speaker 2: like conjure new ideas right now, but just austerity. And
Speaker 2: you say we've got this new, well they're not that
Speaker 2: new anymore. We've got this government that's made of three
Speaker 2: right wing parties and they've basically just brought in austerity
Speaker 2: to try and fix the economy which was flailing, and surprise,
Speaker 2: it's made it way fucking worse.
Speaker 1: Trying to balance the governmental the government's economy, trying to
Speaker 1: government like treat the government like it's a household buddy,
Speaker 1: doesn't work exactly. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, have you guys even met an actual
Speaker 2: macroeconomist in your life? But it's because it's convenient for
Speaker 2: them to parrot this line that you know, it makes
Speaker 2: some intrinsic sense to people like, you know, we got
Speaker 2: we've got to balance the budgets, like you can't. You
Speaker 2: kind of don't, and you kind of like shouldn't go
Speaker 2: too hard that way because everyone will get boned. And
Speaker 2: at the moment in New Zealand, like everyone is getting boned.
Speaker 2: Obviously everyone had inflation after COVID and that's what they've
Speaker 2: used as cover to bring in all of these new policies.
Speaker 2: They're firing everyone from the public sea, they're like they're
Speaker 2: just slashing whole departments. Our healthcare system, which is pretty
Speaker 2: bad to begin with, is just getting absolutely.
Speaker 1: Torn apart and it sucks.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mentioned earlier, I've got a little kid
Speaker 2: who's just in hospital, and like, you know, there's things
Speaker 2: that we take for granted in New Zealand which make
Speaker 2: life so good, but they're kind of invisible until they
Speaker 2: go away or the cracks start to appear.
Speaker 1: I'm just worried that we forget that.
Speaker 2: You know, those were pretty hard won fights from a
Speaker 2: long time ago that brought us like great centralized nationalized
Speaker 2: health care, for example, And there has been from like
Speaker 2: the moment that the national government who are in charge
Speaker 2: now were campaigning, a lot of people were saying, here's
Speaker 2: what they're going to do. They're going to come and
Speaker 2: they're going to slash the healthcare system. Then they're going
Speaker 2: to use all the bad stats that come from the
Speaker 2: fact that it's massively understaffed to just advertising the healthcare system.
Speaker 2: And even like I love a good conspiracy theory, I
Speaker 2: just telling you guys about how much I'm fucking rooting
Speaker 2: for the aliens to be real. But even there, I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, you, let's hear them out, give
Speaker 2: them a chance. This feels like you're, you know, rabbid
Speaker 2: left wingers who you know, have formulated this opinion before
Speaker 2: the people have even got in and the policies have
Speaker 2: had a chance to come in. I am now utterly
Speaker 2: convinced those people are right. Like it is just it
Speaker 2: is horrible to watch in real time, this sort of
Speaker 2: slow moving train crash of the different sect. There's especially
Speaker 2: a healthcare system in New Zealand as a result of austerity.
Speaker 1: So austerity, I'm putting the timbat stamp on it. Oh
Speaker 1: fuck out of here. You have been niled a grass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is frustrating, Like I didn't want the left to
Speaker 1: always be right about everything. It fucking sucks. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just turns out they are very frustrating and then it
Speaker 1: just turns out they are and never ever credit for
Speaker 1: it because nobody it's the one thing that nobody can
Speaker 1: get rich off of. Yeah, but yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: you're in the future. You're in our future.
Speaker 2: Time wise, and yeah, exactly politico economically as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel like we're not far off
Speaker 3: from like New York Times op eds. I'm like Margaret
Speaker 3: Thatcher did in fact save the UK economy and oh yeah, whoa.
Speaker 3: It is feeling Yeah, it is feeling like they're gonna
Speaker 3: mainstream austerity too, because that's a huge thing that there's
Speaker 3: like Americans are going to have to feel some pain,
Speaker 3: so we can hoover up more wealth up to the.
Speaker 2: Type what's amazing as well as how they're like because
Speaker 2: they can't use the word the word austerity now because
Speaker 2: everyone knows it doesn't work and it's awful and it
Speaker 2: just creates like wholesale human suffering for everyone who isn't
Speaker 2: at the very top. So they useing this different terminology
Speaker 2: and language now. But I think maybe this is something
Speaker 2: that's about time, physical responsibility. All these smistic words that
Speaker 2: mean we're going to slash core services that service the
Speaker 2: working class and then we're going to privatize stuff because
Speaker 2: that will make us and our buddies rich. But I
Speaker 2: think we need to like whack that label back onto
Speaker 2: what's happening to just make people have a really clear
Speaker 2: picture of what's going on. That kind of fight over language, man,
Speaker 2: it's unfortunately also kind of important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, mediation, this sounds good right with Warren g Regulation,
Speaker 1: that's regulations. Nobody likes regulations. We need regulations, right, Regulations
Speaker 1: are cool and you need to exist for that's what
Speaker 1: the is about. Now, that's what Candler's campaign should have done.
Speaker 1: That's right. Regulator, that's a protection bureau where you at Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're late. You should have listened to us when we
Speaker 1: said regularly, I mean that bos and fly. You know
Speaker 1: that that's the West Coast in me. It's the West
Speaker 1: Coast in me. You know. It feels like something that
Speaker 1: would have happened in the eighties, Like the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: of the eighties would have put.
Speaker 2: Out Bill Clinton on sex and fine while.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, he's just like his cat is called socks
Speaker 8: and has a video game.
Speaker 3: Don't look past them. That's all we need to know.
Speaker 9: And after who Yeah, all right, so let's talk about
Speaker 9: social media, man, because this feels aspirational to me, even
Speaker 9: though I get everybody being like, how the fuck are
Speaker 9: you gonna make that work?
Speaker 1: Asshole? My answer to it? So, all right, Australia is
Speaker 1: on the verge of passing a ban on social media
Speaker 1: for people under age sixteen. There's a lot of people
Speaker 1: wondering how that's good, how they're gonna make that work.
Speaker 1: This ap article gives most of its word count to
Speaker 1: objections to Critics also argue the band would isolate children,
Speaker 1: deprive them of positive aspects of social media, drive children
Speaker 1: to the dark web, make children too young for social media,
Speaker 1: reluctant to report harms they encountered and take away incentives
Speaker 1: for platforms to make online spaces safer. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I guess when you on the read the question,
Speaker 1: how am I, how are we going to like figure
Speaker 1: this out or like implement that. That's not my fucking problem.
Speaker 1: That's the problem of the social media companies, Like they
Speaker 1: made a product that is super fucking dangerous to the
Speaker 1: point that the only so that last point about like platform, well,
Speaker 1: there's no incentives for platforms to make online spaces safer.
Speaker 1: What a veiled threat like fucking dangerous selling guns on here?
Speaker 1: They have already do. They have so much incentive to
Speaker 1: make their products safer that it's existed for over a decade.
Speaker 1: And the only time I've ever heard of any tech
Speaker 1: executive doing anything to keep a kid safer on their
Speaker 1: platform is that they all ban their own kids from
Speaker 1: using them. That's the only thing that they they all,
Speaker 1: like never heard any any tech executive be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but my kids use our product and we think it's good.
Speaker 1: They're all like to a person like, no, of course,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't let my help use this my kid to
Speaker 1: go into a that. But they don't do ship to
Speaker 1: make the product like as is, the current product does
Speaker 1: not work. It is harming people. I get that a
Speaker 1: like blanket ban under a certain age group might be
Speaker 1: like a blunt instrument that doesn't Like I don't have
Speaker 1: all the answers, but like I do like that the
Speaker 1: law is just like they they're gonna have to figure
Speaker 1: it out in the next they have a year to
Speaker 1: figure it out, and then we're gonna start finding the
Speaker 1: shit out of them. It was like, great, yeah, they can.
Speaker 1: They can go fuck themselves, like that's they they made
Speaker 1: the dangerous product. They can figure it out.
Speaker 2: You might have made a believer out of me, Jack,
Speaker 2: because I've been following this story and I'm sort of like,
Speaker 2: I hate to say the word both sides, but I
Speaker 2: have sort of been seeing both sides of this thing.
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of tricky, right because You're right, like
Speaker 2: the the intent of it is fantastic, and I read
Speaker 2: like one of the biggest things in my head around
Speaker 2: my two boys is just like how do I get
Speaker 2: them offline as much as humanly possible? Like how do
Speaker 2: I just mainline sports into them? And I'm not a
Speaker 2: sports guy, but I'm like, that is the only way
Speaker 2: that I can think of, that guarantees they're not going
Speaker 2: to be holding you know, like a or something in
Speaker 2: their handed.
Speaker 1: All that at all times. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: But on the flip side of this, right, so they're
Speaker 2: bringing this federal law which means that if you're under sixteen,
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to be on social media, which is great,
Speaker 2: but it is tricky because then it goes, well, now
Speaker 2: we have to prove everybody's age in Australia on the internet,
Speaker 2: which is going to like fundamentally change how the internet works.
Speaker 2: And I'm thirty one of my thirty seven so and
Speaker 2: I've been like an online kid my whole life. So
Speaker 2: I've seen this sort of mutation of the Internet being
Speaker 2: a space where it was originally kind of a bit
Speaker 2: niche and anonymous, and now it's completely mainstream and sort
Speaker 2: of decreasingly anonymous, which is sort of good for discourse
Speaker 2: because it means people can't just come and say whatever
Speaker 2: the fuck they want without any accountability, but it does
Speaker 2: there's privacy concerns. And the thing that I just can't
Speaker 2: square in my head is that governments generally are really
Speaker 2: bad at like tech policy, and this will be a
Speaker 2: deeply technical things. So I looked into this law last
Speaker 2: week because I do a tech commentary segment on our
Speaker 2: version of like, what do you call it? Not PBS,
Speaker 2: what's your like State Broadcasts? Yeahs Radio New Zealand is
Speaker 2: what it's called. And so I looked into the law
Speaker 2: and it turns out that technically SMS text messaging like
Speaker 2: falls under their current legal definition of social media. So
Speaker 2: if people are under sixteen, they would be as the law,
Speaker 2: you know, as currently proposed, they would be banned from texting.
Speaker 2: But also we then have to prove the age of
Speaker 2: everyone who has access to a device that can do
Speaker 2: SEMs text messaging. So it's just like, it's the intent fantastic.
Speaker 2: The devil is in the detail, and it's going to
Speaker 2: be like such a fucking hard thing for the Australian government,
Speaker 2: which is filled with the oldest, dumbest people alive, to
Speaker 2: figure out how to prepare age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a second place.
Speaker 3: But we're also like exporting the dumb shit to Australia
Speaker 3: because you start seeing the people in Australia parroting the
Speaker 3: stuff of the republic.
Speaker 1: Like, oh god, this crap.
Speaker 2: It's one of the saddest things that's happened in New Zealand.
Speaker 2: I've always got a litmus test for people in New
Speaker 2: Zealand they see commenting online if you use the word patriot,
Speaker 2: you're just some fucking Fox News.
Speaker 1: We don't say patriot in.
Speaker 2: New Zealand because we've got this beautiful thing called tall
Speaker 2: Poppy syndrome where we bully the shit out of each
Speaker 2: other if you express any like pride for yourself.
Speaker 1: Or your country.
Speaker 2: And sure it gives us like a depression epidemic, but
Speaker 2: it also really tamps down on nationalism and right wing
Speaker 2: sentiment because no one can fully rally around the flag.
Speaker 2: So if anyone describes themselves as a patriot in New Zealand,
Speaker 2: I know that's a red flag that they're just like
Speaker 2: mainlining American right wing news content. The other thing this
Speaker 2: with this Lord that was weird to watch is that
Speaker 2: it's been championed by News Corp, which I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: is the Rupert Murdoch joint. And so I'm also like,
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of follow the money with this
Speaker 2: with me.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, they're like we get access to like
Speaker 1: everybody's person like will have to like everybody will have
Speaker 1: to have like some sort of like online id that
Speaker 1: like follows them around the Internet and I'll make advertising
Speaker 1: like more effective for people over sixteen or something. It
Speaker 1: totally might be there.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping it's just a ven data because all the
Speaker 2: social media and netbooks have taken all of the advertising
Speaker 2: money out of you know, rupid, Murdock's.
Speaker 1: Newspapers and stuff. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, Jake. This should be
Speaker 2: a thing that we're just like finally some good fucking news.
Speaker 1: These are like complicating factors that I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see how the tech industry figures out. And you know,
Speaker 1: like they they have a fucking money gun to their
Speaker 1: head and it's like in a year figure this shit out.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I don't know. I think a
Speaker 1: big reason that tech policy is so shitty is because
Speaker 1: they are the US, and I don't know, like how
Speaker 1: much lobbying is the thing in like Australia and other countries,
Speaker 1: but like they are by far the biggest lot. You know,
Speaker 1: we think of like fossil fuel industries as like the
Speaker 1: number one lobbying industry. It's tech. Tech is the reason crypto. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tech and crypto are like pouring so much money and
Speaker 1: have been for so long that it's easy to just
Speaker 1: like we're now at a place where we're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the government can't solve all these tech problems. We have
Speaker 1: to lean on the oligarchs to solve them. And it's
Speaker 1: just like, no, they're not going to without any like
Speaker 1: without somebody forcing their hand. Yeah, So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it is.
Speaker 3: It's hard because you know, the genie is out of
Speaker 3: the bottle at this point. So I'm not sure that
Speaker 3: just bang, like I just vaporize it for kids under
Speaker 3: sixteen is the answer, because I've been sixteen and people
Speaker 3: told me I couldn't get shit. You know how quick
Speaker 3: I got that shit. Like it's just part of the
Speaker 3: experience of being like a younger person is like, oh,
Speaker 3: you can't have this, Like yeah, all right, more on
Speaker 3: that later, asshole. Watch the fucking get five of these things.
Speaker 2: Even the Australian lawmakers who would bring this in have
Speaker 2: been championing the bill, have said they're like fully away
Speaker 2: because all it's going to take is a VPN, which
Speaker 2: is like the easiest, cheapest thing to implanting on a device.
Speaker 2: But they've said, look, we know that what we're basically
Speaker 2: trying to do is give pearents as much ammunition as
Speaker 2: possible to say like, no, I can't help you make
Speaker 2: an account. No, Like you know, you don't need an
Speaker 2: iPhone sixteen pro Max this year to sit on Instagram
Speaker 2: and tektok all the time.
Speaker 1: The fancy schools are banning smartphones like that's again it's yeah,
Speaker 1: like a bunch of like Eaten in the UK and
Speaker 1: stuff are banning smartphones like kids they're giving and they
Speaker 1: that in privately slipphones and then private schools in the US.
Speaker 1: So we did that too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you Zealand ban cell phones and high schools. I
Speaker 2: feel like I should know that.
Speaker 3: But the thing is, like, like to your point, Jack,
Speaker 3: is like all of the emphasis needs to be on
Speaker 3: these social media companies to get their shit together in
Speaker 3: terms of like content moderation and how it's being served
Speaker 3: and who they decide to serve content to and all
Speaker 3: the algorithms and shit, Because I think one of the
Speaker 3: things when you look at all those studies about like
Speaker 3: what Instagram has done to young people, it's like it's
Speaker 3: all about like unrealistic body expectations or unrealistic lifestyle expectations
Speaker 3: and those kinds of things, and that sounds like a
Speaker 3: huge thing to tackle, right, Like, no one should have it.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this calls for a much larger
Speaker 3: examination of like what is ailing a society too. But
Speaker 3: I think if there's also parts of that where you
Speaker 3: lean on that and you don't allow this kind of
Speaker 3: stuff to proliferate and be like the main thing kids
Speaker 3: see when they go on social media and give them
Speaker 3: an idea of what life is supposed to be like
Speaker 3: or look like or we're supposed to look like, that
Speaker 3: would be a huge benefit also.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think like, because.
Speaker 3: Social media has become such an effective marketing tool, it's
Speaker 3: you know, once a way, I guess the bigger thing
Speaker 3: is like can we get the capital out of this thing?
Speaker 3: And then I don't know, that's that's that's a real
Speaker 3: that's that's a moment that I mean, it is long overdue,
Speaker 3: but I'm cynical in terms of thinking that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: So yeah, maybe it just needs to be some of
Speaker 3: these sort of chaotic things to eventually arrived there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's definitely it's it's we all know it's bad,
Speaker 3: and all the options aren't optimal, but there's clear there
Speaker 3: will be a combination of these things that I feel
Speaker 3: like you can actually reduce the harm that you know
Speaker 3: that kids experiencing these apps and fucking it adults.
Speaker 2: It is cool to doing it, Like it's bad ass
Speaker 2: and it's crazy.
Speaker 1: You know in some ways that it's.
Speaker 2: Australia like a super you know, Western relatively big, you know,
Speaker 2: rich country is actually standing up to the platforms going nah.
Speaker 1: There's this this.
Speaker 2: Interesting can't called Jaron Lanier, who's kind of known as
Speaker 2: like one of the founders of virtual reality. He's this
Speaker 2: technologist and he's invented a bunch of stuff and he's
Speaker 2: sort of like a techno philosopher in some ways, Like
Speaker 2: he talks a lot about the effect that technology has
Speaker 2: on society, and he talks about this fear that he
Speaker 2: has where everyone is on social media so much now
Speaker 2: and the effects are so damaging, but there are so
Speaker 2: few people now that aren't on social media we can't
Speaker 2: measure the effect of it yetmore so, like we don't
Speaker 2: have a control group to look at how humans normally
Speaker 2: act when they're not online.
Speaker 1: And so like it's quinite.
Speaker 2: It is cool that Australia, like a country as big
Speaker 2: and developed and wealthy that it is is kind of
Speaker 2: going to do this experiment on behalf of the world
Speaker 2: and go all right, we're just going to fucking say
Speaker 2: no one under sixteen on here, and we're going to
Speaker 2: try and figure it out and we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I personally, I think blaming all
Speaker 1: the mental health crisis that's happening with young people entirely
Speaker 1: on social media is probably not right. I think that
Speaker 1: involves a lot of just we've talked before, these kids
Speaker 1: are watching the grown ups that they're supposed to admire
Speaker 1: and you know, look up to just ignore climate change
Speaker 1: and be like, I don't know, man, it's your fucking problem. So,
Speaker 1: like I think they have, like are going through a
Speaker 1: uniquely fucked up, like existential experience of having a existential
Speaker 1: threat to humanity and like watching the people who are
Speaker 1: in charge of the world just completely ignore it, and
Speaker 1: it's one that's going to like make their lives really
Speaker 1: fucked up for decades and decades. I feel like that
Speaker 1: is wildly underrated. But I do think that these technologies,
Speaker 1: like having marketing this deeply infused into your day to
Speaker 1: day life is a powerful, you know, way that people
Speaker 1: are robbed of their free will like every day and
Speaker 1: specifically kids, and yeah, just fucking anything, do it like that.
Speaker 1: This seems obviously and clearly the right thing to do
Speaker 1: because it is fucking something like that's what all like,
Speaker 1: that's all that is the bar that I'm asking somebody
Speaker 1: to clear here is just do fucking something. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like seeing like a boulder come down a hill and
Speaker 1: they're like, should we should we stop?
Speaker 10: It's like, dude, put a fucking refrigerator in front of him,
Speaker 10: Let's see if it stops it and just something You're
Speaker 10: gonna still learn something.
Speaker 1: We're like, all right, the refrigerator did not stop the boulder.
Speaker 1: What else you got? Blow it up? Whatever, But you
Speaker 1: gotta don't just do the thing like what am I
Speaker 1: gonna do with that?
Speaker 3: And yeah, that energy is not that is not the
Speaker 3: way we're going to solve these sort of existential problems
Speaker 3: we're all having.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick break, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. And it is that time of the
Speaker 1: year where new stories have to be written in advance
Speaker 1: as journalists go on vacation, and so the dictionaries of
Speaker 1: the world come together and give them a little a
Speaker 1: nice little layup with by naming a bunch of words
Speaker 1: of the year or a new words that we're adding
Speaker 1: to the dictionary this year. And they're hit and miss,
Speaker 1: you know, like Miriam Webster like hits hits sometimes with
Speaker 1: like one, it's like yeah, oh yeah, that that's so weird.
Speaker 1: That wasn't a word this time last year, and now
Speaker 1: it's like in the lexicon.
Speaker 3: I think was authentic was there Webster's ditch word of
Speaker 3: the year, But.
Speaker 1: We knew about authentic before, but that one was number two.
Speaker 1: But riz riz is like a word that's I can't
Speaker 1: stop here. I love as young people are just telling
Speaker 1: me I've got it constantly everywhere I go. But I
Speaker 1: feel like the one thing we can count on is
Speaker 1: Dictionary dot Com is going to fuck it up. So
Speaker 1: last year their word of the year was hallucinate, as
Speaker 1: in AI hallucinates, okay, which is bullshit, Like that's that's
Speaker 1: AI is not hallucinating. AI is just making ship up
Speaker 1: because it's wrong, because it's bad technology, and it's just
Speaker 1: they just like chose a like buzzword used by AI
Speaker 1: marketers to try and like spice up what there how
Speaker 1: their AI fucks up to be like trying to use
Speaker 1: that in your job when you fuck up and see
Speaker 1: if you don't get fired. And sorry, hallucinating like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I crashed the folk left. I was hallucinating. Why how
Speaker 1: would I need to get into the y Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean every time your auto correct like puts the wrong
Speaker 1: word in, call that a hallucination like that, because that's
Speaker 1: essentially all the AI is doing. It's just being programmed
Speaker 1: incorrectly and like pointing in the wrong direction and making things.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, what it is is AI is designed
Speaker 1: to give you an answer, whether it has the right
Speaker 1: answer or not, and so it will make one up. Anyways,
Speaker 1: this year, dictionary dot Com went with demure as the
Speaker 1: word of the Year for twenty twenty. Before I like
Speaker 1: the video that used demure, I haven't enjoyed a single reference,
Speaker 1: like a single person being like this is very demure,
Speaker 1: like in reference to that video right now, it just
Speaker 1: was immediately like nobody's like really used it in a
Speaker 1: fun way. It sucked right away. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's fine, like whatever, Like you're just saying
Speaker 1: like that was a cool moment on TikTok. But then
Speaker 1: it's also a thing where now, like you, a lot
Speaker 1: of us are like, dude.
Speaker 3: Stop fucking saying that, like shit is cooked already, Like
Speaker 3: we're done. That's why I guess hallucinate is better and
Speaker 3: more because it's referencing something that is gonna affect all
Speaker 3: of us and even if they're not, you know, sort
Speaker 3: of interrogating that in a more meaningful way.
Speaker 1: The word is hallucinate.
Speaker 3: Whereas again when you look at oh, you said, oh,
Speaker 3: of course, yeah, I understand the trans girlies love and
Speaker 3: demure because I know the creator of that. There was
Speaker 3: a whole thing I remember because the IP got stolen
Speaker 3: and there's all this drama who can use demure and
Speaker 3: all this other shit. But the thing with like you
Speaker 3: look at like just other words of the year that
Speaker 3: feel that they encapsulate things they feel. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I guess who that part of me is, Like, why
Speaker 3: do I even give a fuck? The world's fucking ending, man,
Speaker 3: and we're talking about demuror because in shitification was the
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've never heard of this dictionary, probably
Speaker 3: because I'm American. The Macquarie Dictionaries Word of the Year.
Speaker 1: Christ was Squary, the guy who wrote Usual Suspects.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, is in shitification. But it's also interesting
Speaker 3: the honorable mention. One of the honorable mentions is raw dogging,
Speaker 3: So maybe we always do need to reference something from
Speaker 3: social media as our word of the year.
Speaker 1: I'll I'll take yeah, raw dog.
Speaker 3: But even then I'm even dubious about people that are
Speaker 3: actually raw dogging flights. I know there are some people
Speaker 3: who literally don't need anything, but so many people were
Speaker 3: posted ship like.
Speaker 1: Y I just raw dog the whole flight, the fucking
Speaker 1: Berlin fam.
Speaker 2: No you didn't wait, did sorry? Did one of the
Speaker 2: dictionaries leaned its hift of word of the year to
Speaker 2: rule dogging or was it like a.
Speaker 3: Finalist that was from a queries? Yeah, that was a
Speaker 3: honorable mentions outside and gittification word of the year, right
Speaker 3: to disconnect and raw dogging.
Speaker 1: We're honorable, man. Yeah, it's basically a word for sobriety.
Speaker 2: I feel like, well, let's be real, raw dogging is
Speaker 2: having six without a condom on, Like that's what that is,
Speaker 2: what that comes from.
Speaker 1: I'm nindlining, you know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dictionary, the aid Square poindexters at the Dictionary,
Speaker 2: you know what we fucked too raw dogging.
Speaker 1: Will we're actually cool guys and we go to parties. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well look we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 3: We don't still don't know Webster's word of the Year.
Speaker 1: And we'll cover it a year and review of the
Speaker 1: years and review articles that we do at the end
Speaker 1: of the year.
Speaker 3: Did you were the were the youths of New Zealand
Speaker 3: using demur a lot?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously a social media has created such a
Speaker 3: global culture.
Speaker 1: But yeah, did you hear?
Speaker 2: Definitely head of Miment, I produce two queer podcasts basically,
Speaker 2: and yeah, Demure had had a big moment. But it's
Speaker 2: like culture moves so quickly. Now, these memes like move
Speaker 2: through the population. They go, they hit so big and
Speaker 2: they're there for about three afternoons and then it's on
Speaker 2: to the next thing, which does make it tricky. You know,
Speaker 2: if you're going to start leaning into internet culture to
Speaker 2: determine your word of the year, it's like dog shit
Speaker 2: is going way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think that's what I'm like. It just
Speaker 1: immediately felt like a fifty five year old magazine editor
Speaker 1: was like, all right, you need to get me five
Speaker 1: headlines with demure in it. Like every time I saw
Speaker 1: it used after the initial video was just just felt
Speaker 1: like people trying to fucking fit it in and like
Speaker 1: having no familiarity with the culture and like how how
Speaker 1: it was being used just felt like el city.
Speaker 2: Can I throw something up at you guys and you can,
Speaker 2: like feel free to you cut this right, yeah if
Speaker 2: you want. I just like, I think the whole the
Speaker 2: hikoy thing in the treaty moment we're having in New
Speaker 2: Zealand at the moment, if we were I would feel
Speaker 2: bad to not at least float the balloon to talk
Speaker 2: about that as a dude from New Zealand with the
Speaker 2: audience that you guys have, And I'm not very like
Speaker 2: super well versed on it, but I just think it's
Speaker 2: such a crazy important thing that's happening at the moment,
Speaker 2: and if you guys wanted a little sort of information
Speaker 2: on the ground about.
Speaker 1: That, yeah, I would love to hear about how it
Speaker 1: feels in New Zealand right now, and yeah, just what's happening.
Speaker 3: But Tim, I do want to ask because in America
Speaker 3: we get very narrow sort of depictions of what is
Speaker 3: happening outside of the US, especially if it's intersecting with
Speaker 3: things like indigenous culture. But I know a few weeks ago,
Speaker 3: or maybe it was last week now, at this point,
Speaker 3: time flies so slow and fast. At the same time,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people on the internet were like, yo,
Speaker 3: they're doing the hakka like in parliament in New Zealand, and.
Speaker 1: Most of the discourse sort of ends like that, shit's sick.
Speaker 1: Me looks at it, like looking at.
Speaker 3: Like a broader historical context, the terms of colonialism stuff,
Speaker 3: and like this is amazing and also heartbreak, like what
Speaker 3: can you just sort of break that down for our
Speaker 3: audience as well, because I don't want everybody to He
Speaker 3: was like, that's sick. They just did the hawk gun
Speaker 3: and everything is okay because that's one hundred percent for
Speaker 3: most of us hundred tuned in. It sort of came
Speaker 3: across I'm glad that you asked about this.
Speaker 2: It is such an incredible moment to be living through,
Speaker 2: like as a New Zealander and Altro and New Zealand
Speaker 2: at the moment. So a bit of back story with this.
Speaker 2: There is a guy called David Seymour who is the
Speaker 2: leader of a right wing libertarian party here called Act
Speaker 2: and he is this very weird guy who has just
Speaker 2: stuck around and been funded by very rich people. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you guys have talked about the Atlas
Speaker 2: network before, which is like this super capitalized right wing
Speaker 2: media and political network that exists around the world.
Speaker 1: You've got a couple of you got quite a few,
Speaker 1: but basically all libertarians are so well funded, and it's.
Speaker 2: Always it's always these like super opaque, invisible trust situations
Speaker 2: where the funders are hidden from public view, and these
Speaker 2: public interest groups just pop up and they've got like
Speaker 2: incredibly slick advertising and they employ like fifty people even
Speaker 2: though no one votes for them. In New Zealand, it's like,
Speaker 2: where the fuck you guys getting your money? And a
Speaker 2: lot of really good journalists have dug around and tried
Speaker 2: to figure that out, and I think the short answer
Speaker 2: is billionaires from America mainly. So this guy, David Seymour
Speaker 2: has proposed essentially to lay down in law some different
Speaker 2: definitions of the Treaty of White Toungy. The Treaty of
Speaker 2: White Toungy is the legal document that is sort of
Speaker 2: the foundational document of New Zealand that was signed in
Speaker 2: eighteen forty. It is the legal basis for white people
Speaker 2: such as myself to sort of be in this country
Speaker 2: which had the sovereignty of was looked after by the
Speaker 2: Mildi people, who are the indigenous people here in New Zealand.
Speaker 2: So when Europeans started coming here, British people came here,
Speaker 2: there was a lot of terrible shit that they were doing.
Speaker 2: They're basically like criminals and causing a lot of trouble,
Speaker 2: and they kept coming and so a lot of the Ewe,
Speaker 2: which Ebi is the.
Speaker 1: Name for a tribe like a Maori tribe, so.
Speaker 2: They kind of came together and they were like, hey,
Speaker 2: you guys got to sort your shit out, like we
Speaker 2: will allow you to form a governmental structure in New
Speaker 2: Zealand because you need to sort all of these trouble
Speaker 2: making British people out who are like drunks and thieves
Speaker 2: and starting violence and raping our women and all this
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. So there is two versions of this document.
Speaker 2: There is the English language version, the Treaty of Waitangi,
Speaker 2: and then there is the Malori language version, which is Teterariti.
Speaker 2: The definitions, as you could probably guess, in the two
Speaker 2: with the language that are used, are quite different. So
Speaker 2: we've got a problem here. We've got this one document
Speaker 2: which is supposed to mean the same thing but in
Speaker 2: two languages, which actually means quite different things and guarantees
Speaker 2: different rights and responsibilities to each party.
Speaker 1: And there has.
Speaker 2: Been a long, storied, slow productive sort of march of
Speaker 2: progress of people over the many decades since we've had
Speaker 2: like real low points in our national history trying to deal.
Speaker 1: With this issue.
Speaker 2: But there's from about nineteen seventy, which was when there
Speaker 2: was a resurgence of Maori language in New Zealand. So
Speaker 2: Maori have their own language, Terreo, and it got beaten
Speaker 2: out of them at school, like they could not use
Speaker 2: it by dint of violence. There was a resurgence of
Speaker 2: that that started in seventies which has started a real
Speaker 2: revitalization of the culture and the whole Maori worldview, which
Speaker 2: is like being this really beautiful and kind of world
Speaker 2: leading indigenous movement and a real beacon of hope to
Speaker 2: other Indigenous people around the world. And like most Kiwis
Speaker 2: really embraced this, Like average Kiwis really embrace this thing.
Speaker 1: They love it.
Speaker 2: Of course it's got its detractors and stuff at the
Speaker 2: right fringes in particular, but like it's been a really beautiful,
Speaker 2: slow moving sort of journey towards how we get this
Speaker 2: thing together. Anyhow, This politician, David Seymour, Libertarian, really well
Speaker 2: funded by overseas donors, has managed to just by sticking
Speaker 2: around and taking slings and arrows over the years. He's
Speaker 2: now the Deputy Prime Minister of New Zealand and this
Speaker 2: weird coalition right when government that we've got, and he
Speaker 2: has proposed a bell which all the other parties said,
Speaker 2: we're not going to like endorse this whatsoever, but he's
Speaker 2: got a first reading of it which would try to
Speaker 2: redefine basically the terms of the treaty. And it has
Speaker 2: been one of the proudest moments of my New Zealand
Speaker 2: life to just see every Maori group and all of
Speaker 2: their allies come together and just say, not on your
Speaker 2: fucking life, dog, now, we've made way too much progress
Speaker 2: for you to come in here and fuck this shit up.
Speaker 2: So there was a what's called a hekoy, which is
Speaker 2: a peaceful walk that went like what is this I
Speaker 2: think is about eight hundred kilometers from Auckland to Wellington
Speaker 2: and they even started further north, so they did this
Speaker 2: huge mark much down the country where they gained tens
Speaker 2: of thousands of people along the way to come to
Speaker 2: the to the seat of power at Parliament and go nah.
Speaker 2: And then you've seen like the hakker that was in parliament, TJ. Perinado,
Speaker 2: who's an all Black, he did a very specific Haucker
Speaker 2: targeted around this issue during an all Blacks game recently,
Speaker 2: and there's just been it's against France, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right, right, and it's Italy maybe Italy actually Italy
Speaker 2: match It's I would implore people to kind of, if
Speaker 2: you've got the time and inclination, dig into this issue
Speaker 2: because I think New Zealand could act is a real
Speaker 2: beacon for how other countries could try and deal with this.
Speaker 2: We're by no means perfect, obviously, but I think just
Speaker 2: there has been a genuine, concerned effort in my lifetime
Speaker 2: for us to try and figure out how to live
Speaker 2: together and sort of enrich the Maori culture and also
Speaker 2: like help this sustain oppressed people who are represented terribly
Speaker 2: in all the statistics you would expect, like health and
Speaker 2: imprisonment and education and stuff, because we fucking beat the
Speaker 2: shit out of them and took their language away and
Speaker 2: their land away and all of this stuff is guess what,
Speaker 2: there's implications of that down the line.
Speaker 1: And my fear at the moment is that this story is.
Speaker 2: Bubbled up on the world stage a bit and it's
Speaker 2: kind of drawn the attention of all these right wing
Speaker 2: you know, sort of man o sphere podcast types where
Speaker 2: they just see the surface level and I've already seen
Speaker 2: like just little glimpses of the commentary on that, and like, fuck,
Speaker 2: that's such a It feels to me such a dangerous
Speaker 2: thing that these guys with massive platforms who have zero
Speaker 2: context for what's actually going on on the ground here,
Speaker 2: just making these flippant comments. There's one there's an interview
Speaker 2: in particular which like I don't know if it'll translate
Speaker 2: super well if you don't have New Zealand context, but
Speaker 2: a guy called Jack Tame, who's one of our journalists
Speaker 2: for TV New Zealand here, interviewed David Seymour last week
Speaker 2: and kind of dismantled his argument pretty well.
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: He was like, if you've got an agreement between two parties,
Speaker 2: isn't it completely unjust that one of the parties, which
Speaker 2: is the government, gets to completely redefine the terms of
Speaker 2: it just ed its behest. Yeah, so it's an interesting
Speaker 2: moment to be living through. And yeah, I think David
Speaker 2: Seymour has underestimated just how much he's like kept the
Speaker 2: hornet's nest here, right, which is.
Speaker 1: Kind of cool to see. Yeah, I mean I think.
Speaker 3: I mean, like the one article I read that was
Speaker 3: like an on from nbcnews dot Com was just so
Speaker 3: like devoid of details. It was just kind of like
Speaker 3: they're talking about renegosh or redefining a contract to the
Speaker 3: certain support without really kind of drilling into the humanity
Speaker 3: of it and the history of it, because that's what's
Speaker 3: so important. And I think for an American audience, who
Speaker 3: obviously has its own terribly sordid history with how the
Speaker 3: government was interacting with Indigenous people, it's like a like
Speaker 3: unfathomable like that they're like wow, because the way this
Speaker 3: there was no treaty or anything. This was just merely
Speaker 3: like reforced relocation. And now we're saying, well, like, you know,
Speaker 3: you want to be your own coruntry, then don't ask
Speaker 3: us for help, and here you go, and we'll turn
Speaker 3: our backs on you and then wonder why things are
Speaker 3: falling apart, and yeah, I'm I'm always very heartened when
Speaker 3: I see how just how different our cultures are in
Speaker 3: that respect. And yeah, I mean I there is something
Speaker 3: to that that I would hope could be like something inspirational.
Speaker 3: But how are these like chud dudes trying to sort
Speaker 3: of hijack the conversation around.
Speaker 1: It's will that the manisphere has sided with like a
Speaker 1: politician who went on Dancing with the Stars and Dats
Speaker 1: Moore and like not the all black like you know, Rugby.
Speaker 1: It's like any credibility, any claim, like where there America
Speaker 1: is like having this crisis in media where they're like,
Speaker 1: how do we attract men like and be like more
Speaker 1: manly to attract and it's like it has nothing to
Speaker 1: do it. They just want to be fucking racist. They're
Speaker 1: just like that. Yeah, so much of it is just
Speaker 1: them looking for a fucking excuse to be fucking racist
Speaker 1: pieces of shit and like it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: Like if if ever there was an opportunity for them
Speaker 1: to be like, okay, which is the cooler, more manosphere thing, right,
Speaker 1: I think it would be citing with the Maori, not
Speaker 1: a hundred billionaire libertarians.
Speaker 2: The thing is that the other side of this is like,
Speaker 2: isn't it sort of part of you know, testosterone fuel
Speaker 2: man culture to be against the man, Like all your
Speaker 2: archetypes and heroes supposed to be the guy who's like
Speaker 2: going against the system and defending you know, the down trodden.
Speaker 2: There is I don't think there could be a more
Speaker 2: stark example right now in New Zealand then the interest
Speaker 2: that David Seymour is representing and the molded people who
Speaker 2: are like just standing proud and strong and developing their
Speaker 2: own systems to enshrine their culture and their language and
Speaker 2: their rights you know that were given to of them
Speaker 2: not that long ago in a legal fucking document, which
Speaker 2: is the whole reason why white people are here in
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Like, surely they are there if you're looking
Speaker 2: for those kind of comic book style superhero archetypes, like
Speaker 2: you got one steering you in the face. But unfortunately, yeah,
Speaker 2: you would have to probably let go of a bit
Speaker 2: of your racism and intense kind of right wing libertarian
Speaker 2: economic political view, which is what a lot of this
Speaker 2: boils down to. And that's kind of the bit that
Speaker 2: I find exciting is what is good for maldi is
Speaker 2: good for everyone.
Speaker 1: Like it is. It is.
Speaker 2: It is stewarding the environment. It's like a deep connection
Speaker 2: and protection of the environment in saying like we need
Speaker 2: to protect the water that we fucking drink and the
Speaker 2: wildlife that lives in the environment that we inhabit, and
Speaker 2: the whole concept of land ownership, Like I know this
Speaker 2: is a common story with indigenous people around the world,
Speaker 2: but it's just like, what are you talking about. It's
Speaker 2: you don't own land.
Speaker 1: You fucko.
Speaker 2: You walk around on it and you kind of you
Speaker 2: can like take resources from it to sustain yourself, but
Speaker 2: reasonless extraction and stuff is just so antithetical to the
Speaker 2: Maori worldview by and large. And I always I don't
Speaker 2: want to get too out in front of my skis.
Speaker 2: I'm not Maori, so I don't want to represent the
Speaker 2: whole multi worldview. But it's a cool thing to watch
Speaker 2: as the New Zealander at the moment the pushback because
Speaker 2: it has been bigger and broader and louder than expected,
Speaker 2: and it is kind of nice to see around the world,
Speaker 2: even though it's drawing the attention of these right wing
Speaker 2: podcast dudes. The bulk of things that I'm seeing as well,
Speaker 2: like on read it and they're going, this looks fucking
Speaker 2: what's going on your parliament?
Speaker 1: Dude? That looks cool?
Speaker 3: Huh yeah, I mean yeah, it is interesting to see
Speaker 3: how I think it makes sense though, the two that
Speaker 3: like in the manisphere, they only respect sort of like
Speaker 3: violence and absolute power, so they would eventually suicide with
Speaker 3: colonizers to be like, well, you know, they got colonized.
Speaker 1: It is what it is exactly, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's what's kind of that's that's
Speaker 3: something that I think. I mean, I hope to see
Speaker 3: sort of that sentiment change. But the one thing that
Speaker 3: it feels like is becoming a theme more and more
Speaker 3: is like you get these sort of right wingers really
Speaker 3: get gassed up on their own bullshit and then they're like,
Speaker 3: oh not everyone thinks like this, and it's actually getting
Speaker 3: a massive response. Those are the kinds of things, and
Speaker 3: like we need to keep our eyes on because I
Speaker 3: think at the moment we're in this country, a lot
Speaker 3: of people are not sure what to do about anything,
Speaker 3: and summer just like do I just retreat to comfort?
Speaker 1: Do I just keep my head down? And I think
Speaker 1: a big thing is going to be about making yourself,
Speaker 1: like making it be known where you stand and what
Speaker 1: you stand for at a much deeper level. But that
Speaker 1: bridge will be crossed fairly shortly. Yeah, well put man,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, Tim, such a pleasure having you on
Speaker 1: the show, and I such a funny comedian and I
Speaker 1: just about how are we gonna not but how are
Speaker 1: we not going to talk about it? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? That's just the thing.
Speaker 2: It is a thing to feel optimistic about. I think
Speaker 2: it's a cool thing.
Speaker 3: And we have to know, we have to be aware
Speaker 3: of our surroundings at a minimum, at a minimum. You know,
Speaker 3: sometimes it's not funny, but at the very least, we
Speaker 3: have to arm ourselves with the knowledge of what is
Speaker 3: happening around us at a minimum.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that. I like you guys. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we like you. We love you, love as I love
Speaker 1: you that you specifically Okay, thank you. And this is
Speaker 1: this is the Joe Rogan of the left Ship. They
Speaker 1: need to be thinking about just guys love each other
Speaker 1: due this guy is so dope.
Speaker 3: I love this guy, man, This is so this is
Speaker 3: what I love about just international friendships, man, just being
Speaker 3: responsible towards each other.
Speaker 1: And I can't quite bring myself to get there and
Speaker 1: say I love you. We can say that as a man.
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the rich guys who inherit. It looks
Speaker 1: like a guys in Dune who spend all their time
Speaker 1: floating in mudbounds to the Amazon.
Speaker 2: We'll find a shaman, will get you hooked up. We'll
Speaker 2: turn your whole wheeld around and you'll be You'll be
Speaker 2: peace and love.
Speaker 1: Exactly, man, exactly, dude, you're gonna let me in? Does
Speaker 1: it give me explosive diarrhea? Because now that's what I'm
Speaker 1: actually into that, that's what that's my friend, that's my
Speaker 1: question about everything. You need some of that? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you lead with you're welcome. Every time you greet someone
Speaker 1: and ask immediately about anything. Does it give me explosive diarrhea? Uh? Tim?
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you here? You see
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: I really feel like I'm retreating from the Internet at
Speaker 2: the moment, and I don't mind that at all. I've
Speaker 2: I was Instagram is a fun place to be for
Speaker 2: now until Elon musk By is that one too?
Speaker 1: Sure? So I don't even know what I am? What am? I?
Speaker 2: Tim underscore bat inst But you know what, just wait
Speaker 2: for me to come back to the daily guys find
Speaker 2: me exactly like Gandalf.
Speaker 1: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Oh, yes there is. I'll give a quick shout out
Speaker 2: sorry because it just came out. Till Death to Us
Speaker 2: Blat and Will podcast I'm part of where we watch
Speaker 2: Paul Blatmore Coop two. We just celebrated our tenth year.
Speaker 2: Myself and Guy Montgomery flew to Las Vegas to go
Speaker 2: to where the movie is set. The three guys in America,
Speaker 2: the McLeroy brothers that we do the podcast with, did
Speaker 2: not come to Vegas, so we flew fourteen hours to
Speaker 2: go on a zoom call effectively inside the Wind casino
Speaker 2: and hotel, which was great fun. So you can check
Speaker 2: out Till Death to Us Blat where if you get
Speaker 2: your podcasts. The piece of media I want to shout
Speaker 2: out on top of that, if I may, is a
Speaker 2: guy called I don't know if you guys have hit
Speaker 2: Andy Roussou. I think I'm probably saying his name is wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's like beg on tech Talk. He's a young
Speaker 2: dude r O U Sso how would you say that?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: You ralso Yeah, there's problem. This guy is just so
Speaker 2: sensationally funny he did, and particularly this one. I think
Speaker 2: you put it out a year ago, but it's new
Speaker 2: to me, where he talks about why Duncan suddenly has
Speaker 2: dry ass donuts and he's just got this beautiful, like
Speaker 2: sense of escalation. I'm going to spoil it for you
Speaker 2: because there's lots of great ones there, but it's like
Speaker 2: employee talking to the manager about like, why have we
Speaker 2: started making these fucking horrible dry ars donuts? And then
Speaker 2: the turners we've been developing them for NASA to use
Speaker 2: as a heat shield for this messile which is going
Speaker 2: to avoid this comic which is on course to destroy Earth.
Speaker 2: And then suddenly the employee has gone from incredibly you know,
Speaker 2: standing confused about these dry ass donuts to so proud
Speaker 2: that he's on the side that's trying to fight for humanity.
Speaker 2: And he's fucking hilarious. Man, He's he's yeah, he's very
Speaker 2: very funny, awesome miles.
Speaker 11: Where can people find you? Is there a working media
Speaker 11: you've been enjoying? Yeah, everywhere, everywhere, more more so on
Speaker 11: Blue Sky though at Miles of Gray. Pretty much find
Speaker 11: Jack and I in the basketball podcast when I was
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Speaker 3: You can find me talking ninety day fans for twenty
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Speaker 1: Like nothing specific. I would just say, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: take if you if you have the time off on
Speaker 1: the weekend, just just honestly, just do watch something you love. Like,
Speaker 1: watch whatever movie you like you loved in your youth
Speaker 1: and you forgot about and you haven't seen it in
Speaker 1: fifteen years. Watch that ship. It's probably gonna suck, but
Speaker 1: I'm it's gonna hit your brain in weird ways. I
Speaker 1: just watched that movie Little Monsters recently with.
Speaker 3: Ben Savage and Howie Mandel, and I was like, gosh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like this ship. I was trying to get
Speaker 3: her majesty to watch, like this shit fucking goes and
Speaker 3: we watched them, like yo, what the fuck? But still
Speaker 3: it was like you kid, yeah, oh I loved it.
Speaker 3: I loved it, But it was more interesting to see
Speaker 3: how like you now look at things differently, but it's
Speaker 3: still had these like like these nostalgia endorphins hit my
Speaker 3: brain in a way I was not anticipating. So whatever
Speaker 3: that is for you, I encourage you to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I still have the geography of that world
Speaker 1: of the like under a world. Yeah yeah, very specific
Speaker 1: aesthetic of the little monsters. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 3: My recommendation, Peekaboo, Kendrick Lamar have a great one.
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