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Speaker 3: Welcome back. It's Wednesday in Los Angeles. It's The Herd.

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Speaker 3: Wherever you are, however you may be listening. I think

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Speaker 3: I got that right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I've never tried that.

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Speaker 3: It just came to me. It's me Jason McIntyre filling

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Speaker 3: in for Colin Cowhard. He is breathlessly texting me updates

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Speaker 3: about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey, and I'm relaying them

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Speaker 3: to Rachel Nichols, who I'm joined by again today.

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Speaker 5: Rachel, No, Colin's not actually texting.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure this is quick.

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Speaker 3: This is his last hurrah in now. Maybe he's on

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Speaker 3: the course I've been, but uh, Rachel and I listen.

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Speaker 3: We've been hit for breaking news every day, so keep

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Speaker 3: in locked. Who knows what's coming down now? We did

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Speaker 3: get a little tease about some not great news, which

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Speaker 3: we'll get you shortly. Uh, Kansas City Chiefs fans tuned in.

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Speaker 3: But I'm going to start the show, obviously with the

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Speaker 3: big news in sports, Travis Kelce Taylor Swift engage. Now,

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Speaker 3: I know sports fans are already sick of it, their wives,

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Speaker 3: their girlfriends, their side pieces and whatever, talking about Wait

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Speaker 3: a minute, what kind of wedding dress is Taylor Swift were?

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Speaker 3: But do they get a DJ or do they do

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Speaker 3: a band? Do they do an international wedding? And there's

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Speaker 3: all this updates on all the celebrity websites and also

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Speaker 3: sports websites talking about this union, and folks, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: take it in a different direction because we do sports

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Speaker 3: here on the show, and I'm gonna say, how does

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Speaker 3: this impact the actual football product of the Kansas City Chiefs?

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Speaker 3: And it keeps coming back to one thing that's fairly

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Speaker 3: obvious that this has to be the last dance for

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Speaker 3: the triumvirate of Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you guys remember a few years ago Baker

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Speaker 3: Mayfield led the NFL in commercials and on the field

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Speaker 3: the product was not great. Well, what are we doing

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Speaker 3: with Travis Kelce. I mean, he's talked about retirement. He's

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Speaker 3: among the league leaders in commercials. He's a full blown celebrity. Now, okay,

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Speaker 3: he's engaged to the most famous woman on the planet

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Speaker 3: and now they're going to be planning a wedding. By

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Speaker 3: the way, side note, Travis Kelce's dad gave a random

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Speaker 5: I don't know, there's some kind of connection there, and.

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Speaker 3: He said, oh, yeah, basically they got engaged two weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: which then makes you wonder about that whole podcast appearance.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Listen, there's just so much happening here,

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Speaker 3: but guess what's not happening?

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Speaker 3: And I mentioned the last dance because Jordan Pippot and

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Speaker 3: Phil Jack and they knew that that was it. It's

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Speaker 3: over on some level, guys, Patrick Mahomes has to know

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Speaker 3: this is it. I mean, Travis Kelce turns thirty six

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Speaker 3: He's openly talked about retirement. I mean, he's laying the

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Speaker 3: He's in Happy Go More too. By the way, just

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Speaker 3: a quick review. I didn't think the movie was great.

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Speaker 3: It was okay, but I did think Travis Kelcey was

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Speaker 3: kind of good. I thought Bad Bunny was good. I

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Speaker 3: still have a season to go. And again, I don't

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Speaker 3: That's putting even more pressure on Travis kelce who oh,

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Speaker 3: And Travis kelcey, you know he could have a great

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Speaker 3: Swan song. I'm sure he's gonna play better here. Listen,

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Speaker 3: don't when you run a mile and you're older, you

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Speaker 3: everybody's predicting. I know they have my homes and they

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Speaker 3: This is probably it? Now I'm gonna shift my focus

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Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine Ers, another team that I had yesterday

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Speaker 3: that was mildly controversial in my Super Bowl tiers.

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Speaker 3: That was met with a lot of scorn and derision

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Speaker 3: the focus here is going to be a certain seventh

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Speaker 3: round quarterback by the name of Rock Perdy. So our

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Speaker 3: brock Perty. I felt this pressure last season on myself

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Speaker 3: some context here, because brock Perty last year was playing

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Speaker 3: Now more context needed. So this Niners team last year,

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Speaker 3: But I totaled it twelve playoff games in a five

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Speaker 3: Twelve playoff games is almost another entire season. Remember the

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Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors kept going to the finals and then

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Speaker 5: That was the Niners last year. But I've got a couple.

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Speaker 3: Things about Brock Purdy that I'm gonna hit you with

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Speaker 3: now that are going to be a surprise. So the

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Speaker 3: narrative was that, you know, he wasn't good last year

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Speaker 3: the weather was bad, and brock Purdy crumbled. Well, you know,

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Speaker 3: I do not like the blind taste tests when it

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Speaker 3: comes to quarterbacks. I feel like it's cheap and people

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Speaker 3: kind of cherry pickstats. But I this morning just looking

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Speaker 3: brock Purdy was not that bad last year. So, folks,

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Speaker 5: Party more touchdowns, more interceptions, yards per attempt.

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Speaker 3: He was not a checkdown artist eight point five, much

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Speaker 5: Let's see who the other quarterback is.

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Speaker 3: Oh, oh, Matthew Stafford, the much beloved Matthew Stafford. I

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Speaker 3: like Stafford. I'm a Stafford guy. But Stafford wasn't great

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Speaker 3: last year. So Stafford wasn't great. How was brock Purty awful? Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's number one. Now the staff came up with a

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Speaker 3: Let's see who the quarterback was compared to brock Purty

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Speaker 3: I have no idea who this guy is. Touchdowns even,

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Speaker 3: All right, let's see who this quarterback is, Rock Purty

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Speaker 3: a boom. My kid likes to do truth bomb, you know,

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Speaker 3: for brock Purty. So we have Greg Cosell last week.

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Speaker 3: Coseelt to take shots at pretty I don't know if

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Speaker 8: Here we go in terms of being what we call

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Speaker 8: a post snap operator. In other words, when he takes

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Speaker 8: and anticipation thrower. It's just innate to him. He sees

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Speaker 8: it really quickly. So Purdy is a high level post

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Speaker 8: snap operator. He's a really really good player. Purdy is

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Speaker 8: a really good quarterback. He's just not a dynamic athlete

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Speaker 8: who is necessarily going to make those kind of special

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Speaker 3: Cosell dropping a little truth bomb there on my guy,

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Speaker 3: brock Purty. So I do want to say, I try

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Speaker 3: to help you guys out, okay, try to help you

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Speaker 3: be a little smarter on the gambling front, the fantasy

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Speaker 3: the takes and sometimes you don't want it or you

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Speaker 5: Just argue with me, folks.

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Speaker 3: Just a few facts here. The forty nine ers this

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Speaker 3: season are favored in fifteen of seventeen games. Fifteen Er

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Speaker 3: sent they're gonna be awesome, and the only two times

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Speaker 3: are dogs. They're short road dogs against. I think it's

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Speaker 3: the Rams and Bucks back to back. Okay, so they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be good. I don't care that you think, oh,

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Speaker 3: the defense is washed, all these new guys, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: be really good. Yeah, there it is. They're at the

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Speaker 3: Rams and Bucks back to back in weeks five and six.

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Speaker 3: They are slight dogs. That schedule is Cupcake City. Go

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Speaker 3: He's really locked in now. I know he knows the Falcons. Well,

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is the herd Line news.

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Speaker 6: Well we got breaking news. You want to breaking news?

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Speaker 9: Jason Rashid Rice was facing a potential suspension from the

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Speaker 9: he is under investigation for several final felonies about causing

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Speaker 6: Has accepted a sixth game.

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Speaker 9: Suspension from the NFL after they originally were looking to

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Speaker 9: Says A couple impacts here, right, is that, first of all,

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Speaker 6: Right, this way, he accepts.

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Speaker 9: The six games, which is better than ten. I think

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Speaker 9: And it will start right at the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 9: So we can see the schedule up there, Jason, you

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Speaker 9: What do you think is going to happen with Patrick

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Speaker 3: of the womb questionable. Xavier Worthy is good, but he's

431
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Speaker 3: more of a gadget guy. I don't think he's like

432
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Speaker 3: a rice. You can lean on him for ten catches.

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Speaker 6: Right, yeah, and he's still you know, young.

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Speaker 3: Ish, right young yesh Yes, Travis Kelcey and Noah Gray

435
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Speaker 3: then listen, man, I don't think this is going to

436
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Speaker 3: be easy. They're running back room unchanged, really, Pacheco and

437
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Speaker 3: kareemont Rachel. Again, I know I sound like a hater.

438
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Speaker 3: I don't see this as going great this season for

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. Now, you could look at this as good

440
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Speaker 3: news that They've now got an extra what eight days

441
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Speaker 3: to prepare, ten days to prepare for week one, knowing

442
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Speaker 3: Rice is not going to be there to pull him

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Speaker 3: out of the game plan. Yeah, can they go four

444
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Speaker 3: and two without him? Or is that too generous?

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Speaker 9: I mean, if you look at their schedule, right, go

446
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Speaker 9: back to that. Then they start with the Chargers in Brazil.

447
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Speaker 9: They're still going to be favored.

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Speaker 6: To win that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Chargers play them tough though, I know, but.

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Speaker 6: They're still gonna be favored win that game. Right.

451
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Speaker 9: They were facing the Eagles in Week two and they

452
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Speaker 9: were favored in that game, and now I don't know, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well coming back with there's not a lot of

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Speaker 5: data coming.

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Speaker 3: Back from Brazil.

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Speaker 6: What's that?

457
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Speaker 3: What's that trip like?

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Speaker 9: Right? And then Giants obviously they should still win that game. Yeah, right,

459
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Speaker 9: Ravens going to be very tough.

460
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jaguars, despite.

461
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Speaker 9: You deciding Jacksonville is the powerhouses in the NFL, Mysteriously,

462
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Speaker 9: we don't know why they should win that game.

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Speaker 6: Lions, I mean, she gets streaky to be.

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Speaker 3: All right, three and three, four and two, right, and

465
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Speaker 3: if they go five and one, lights out, you're going

466
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Speaker 3: to the playoffs. They're going to get excited for. But

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Speaker 3: interesting how they they don't have to go on the

468
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Speaker 3: road for the Eagles or Ravens or Lions exactly, And

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Speaker 3: ifl did them a favor huh wow, uf Kames all

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Speaker 3: in Kansas City. Maybe so Taylor could attend the gates.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. They want to make sure that they get

472
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Speaker 9: her up there a lot. So, oh, I have math

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Speaker 9: for you on that. By the way, she was on

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Speaker 9: the cast August thirteenth. And if you do detective work

475
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Speaker 9: on when Kelsey's dad said they got engaged, that was

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Speaker 9: a tenth.

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Speaker 3: So maybe after the podcast maybe, I don't know. Basically,

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Speaker 3: he did seem giddy on the podcast vide.

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Speaker 6: I think it was right around the same time.

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Speaker 3: There you go, No chiefs read from Rachelton Black for

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Speaker 3: the feuds exactly.

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Speaker 9: All right, Let's say the Dallas drama continues around like

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Speaker 9: a Parsons contract negotiations, no end in sight. The Cowboys

484
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Speaker 9: kick off the season in Philadelphia for the first time.

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Speaker 9: Brian Schottenheimer actually admitted persons could be limited even if

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Speaker 9: he does play a week one take.

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Speaker 11: A listen at the end of the day. As soon

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Speaker 11: as he get out there, that's great. But again, there'll

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Speaker 11: be a ramp up plan for him, and you know,

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Speaker 11: when he lines up out there to play. You know,

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Speaker 11: do I think he would play seventy five plays in

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Speaker 11: every play? Probably not, you know, I don't think that

493
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Speaker 11: that's real, But I do think that he can be

494
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Speaker 11: very disruptive. Like we all, the best way to get

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Speaker 11: good at football and is to play football. Then, so

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Speaker 11: I would say as soon as possible would be would

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Speaker 11: be the desired effect.

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Speaker 9: The desired effect would be as soon as possible, Jason,

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Speaker 9: so important to really take it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 6: My question back, I know.

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Speaker 9: My question for you though, is so Dak Prescott signed

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Speaker 9: on literally the day of the season opener, but he

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Speaker 9: had been practicing the entire time, and he had no injury,

505
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Speaker 9: right Micah purported to have had backnightness. He's now been

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Speaker 9: medically cleared. We can decide how much of a negotiating

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Speaker 9: tactic that was.

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Speaker 6: But he hasn't practiced at all.

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Speaker 3: That's a little surprising, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: And so well, I mean not from his perspective, but.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so, at what point would you if you were

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Speaker 9: coaching the Cowboys and you had the balance trying to

513
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Speaker 9: win a very big, high profile game, but also not

514
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Speaker 9: wanting to get your forty million plus player hurt.

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Speaker 6: What day would he have to return to.

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Speaker 9: Practice for you to feel good about playing, even in

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Speaker 9: a limited number of snaps the way shot he's talking about,

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Speaker 9: and so.

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Speaker 3: What do you say is limited number of STAPs like

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Speaker 3: situational if it's third and seven or more, let's put

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Speaker 3: him in. Just go get the quarterback. You don't have

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Speaker 3: to worry about the run game or.

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Speaker 6: That it's hard.

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Speaker 9: The number he threw autor is like, oh, he's not

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Speaker 9: going to play seventy five snaps?

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, of course not.

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Speaker 9: But is he going to play as you said, just

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Speaker 9: unlike sort of tricky third downs?

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Speaker 6: Is it going to be a.

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Speaker 3: Lot twenty snaps?

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Speaker 4: Thirty?

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Speaker 3: Because you know the Eagles are going to identify, Hey,

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Speaker 3: he's on the field. He hasn't practiced it forever, he

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Speaker 3: ain't ready, let's go at him.

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Speaker 9: They only have three days of practice scheduled at home

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Speaker 9: and then they fly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's starting to seem like maybe he shouldn't even

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Speaker 3: play if he's not back like by this weekend, right

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Speaker 3: and at those three practices, right, Yeah, I mean, I

540
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Speaker 3: know he's been around the league with four years five years,

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Speaker 3: like he can.

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Speaker 2: Just go in and make plays.

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Speaker 9: It's physical though, I mean that's the question to me,

544
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Speaker 9: is physically. I mean you the thing you cannot have

545
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Speaker 9: happened after all of this is for him to get

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Speaker 9: hurt and miss a month, right, So.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what do you I would love to get

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Speaker 3: Michael on you. Hey, what's your workout like? Since you're

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Speaker 3: not practicing with the team, they're out there grinding two days,

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Speaker 3: you know, is it?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 9: I mean your workout guide, Like there's a huge difference

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Speaker 9: between I lifted and weights and I ran on the

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Speaker 9: treadmill and actual live football.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, So I don't know, maybe you're making you're

556
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Speaker 3: selling me like I don't know that he's gonna play

557
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Speaker 3: that much at all. Hey, Jerry, let's blame Jerry for this?

558
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Speaker 3: Could we do that?

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Speaker 6: Just of course? Why not? Let me let's go over

560
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Speaker 6: to the Bears.

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Speaker 9: Ben Johnson has been looking to leave his mark on

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Speaker 9: there his new team is he heats into the first

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Speaker 9: regular season game. One thing he has talked about since

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Speaker 9: the beginning of training camp, though, was the slow starts

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Speaker 9: from the offense, and he said it's more than just the.

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Speaker 12: Quarterback it's not Caleb, it's it's everybody. It's everybody, and

567
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Speaker 12: it's coaches included, and all this thing, and so we're

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Speaker 12: not pointing fingers. The whole thing is we just got

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Speaker 12: to be focused. We've got to be in intentional. We

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Speaker 12: like to talk about you know, if we get seventy

571
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Speaker 12: plays in a game, those are seventy bullets for us

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Speaker 12: to shoot off, and we need each one account. We

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Speaker 12: can't be missing, we can't be wasting. There are no

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Speaker 12: breather plays in this league. Each thing is really important.

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Speaker 12: The details are really important, and I think it's going

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Speaker 12: to add up and we'll be just fine.

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Speaker 6: You buying that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Rachel. I don't want to be buddy

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Speaker 3: language expert guy. But if you look at all these

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson clips all summer, he doesn't seem like happy.

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Speaker 3: He seems like tight, and you don't see a lot

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Speaker 3: of smiling. He almost looks frustrated. Am I reading too

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Speaker 3: much into that?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 6: I think you're right.

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Speaker 9: I mean, look, I think he's a high intensity.

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Speaker 2: Guy, big.

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Speaker 9: But I asked you guys this morning in the meeting,

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Speaker 9: have we heard him sort of wax poetic about Caleb

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Speaker 9: Williams ever has there ever been sort of a like man,

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Speaker 9: I really see a lot in him. He still needs

592
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Speaker 9: some polishing, but I haven't haven't listened to every single

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Speaker 9: quote this guy has had after everything.

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Speaker 6: Practice, So that's more why I'm asking the question.

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Speaker 9: But he has not projected overall a lot of positivity

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Speaker 9: about the quarterback he's working with, and I just wonder

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Speaker 9: in a new head coach quarterback relationship. There's no question

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Speaker 9: that Williams has a history of starting slowly, and this

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Speaker 9: is exactly what he's talking about.

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Speaker 6: This is a lot different than Jared Goff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, starting to get bad vibes about the Bears. Maybe

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Speaker 3: I'm being too negative, but they're you know, football war analogies,

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Speaker 3: Like it's different being like a lieutenant and a general.

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Speaker 3: He's in charge of everything in Detroit. It was just

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff, like you said in the office take, I

606
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Speaker 3: could create some jazzy plays and hook and ladders. That's

607
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Speaker 3: easy when you just got one thing to focus on.

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Speaker 3: But this is like I got to deal with the

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Speaker 3: media every day. I got to deal with my quarterback,

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Speaker 3: what's going on with special teams? And maybe that's why

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Speaker 3: he is not really seeming like he's having fun.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, this is a problem. They

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Speaker 6: have to clean it up.

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Speaker 9: Last season, the Bears ranked thirtieth in terms of slowest

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Speaker 9: starts in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: So you can't can't start that way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, that's not any of those teams good.

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Speaker 9: In that last preseason game, they were down seventeen to

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Speaker 9: oh before they scored finally afield on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not ideal. I'm I just don't think this is

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Speaker 3: a playoff team. Shoot, you got them in the playoffs.

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Speaker 9: I don't Yeah, yeah, but you know Collins and Chicago.

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Speaker 6: He might have a different, different story.

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Speaker 3: Rachel with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the.

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Speaker 3: Herd line news right coming up next, is this really

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Speaker 3: the end of the Chiefs with Travis Kelcey likely bouncing

628
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Speaker 3: after the season, And who blinks first in Dallas? That's next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Noone Stair, not a Empacific.

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Speaker 3: Back here on the Herd, Let's bring in Steve Weiss,

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Speaker 3: NFL reporter NFL Network. He's been there since two thousand

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Speaker 3: and eight. Steve, thanks for joining us on this day

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Speaker 3: with more breaking news involving the Chiefs. This is actual

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Speaker 3: on field product as opposed to the Kelsey Swift engagement.

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Speaker 3: But obviously the Rashid Rice news just broke I'm curious

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Speaker 3: a your reaction and b you know what do you

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Speaker 3: think the impact will be on Kansas City's offense.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my colleague Tom Pelasero broke that.

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Speaker 4: And what's interesting, remember he had a date set for

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Speaker 4: late September, right, so that was a lot him to play,

642
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Speaker 4: find out his fate, all of this stuff. By now,

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Speaker 4: he's getting this out of the way. So he suspended

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Speaker 4: for six weeks. According to Tom, he'll be able to

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Speaker 4: come back in week seven and then they can get rolling.

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Speaker 4: So that allows the Chiefs on the field to kind

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Speaker 4: of set their rotation and everything from now.

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Speaker 7: It allows Rice.

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Speaker 4: Not to go back and forth like we've seen some

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Speaker 4: players go back and forth in the past. Are they

651
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 4: going to play again? Remember Zeke Elliott? Are they not

652
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: going to play? So that just clears a hurdle of

653
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 4: the unknown. So we'll see how is she Rice, who's

654
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 4: a valuable part of what they do, how he figures

655
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: in when he comes back mid season.

656
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 7: But again, for the.

657
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 4: Chiefs football wise, it just allows him. Let's establish this,

658
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: this is out of the way. Now all sides can

659
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 4: function kind of knowing what is there.

660
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird.

661
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 7: Rice.

662
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: He hasn't played enough for us to know if he's great,

663
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: But in that one season he kind of popped. He

664
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: looked like he had top ten receiver potential, right with

665
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 3: the speed and the strength.

666
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and he helps out what they like

667
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 4: to do in that offense, right, Remember he does the

668
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 4: up the seam stuff. He kind of helps Kelsey clear

669
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: things out in that middle of the field.

670
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 7: Plus you could tell Mahomes really likes him. I mean,

671
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 7: they've got a chemistry there.

672
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: I think they're both Dallas area guys, Texas guys, and

673
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: they train a lot in the off season together, so

674
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 4: that chemistry helps. And so not having him, they knew

675
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 4: it was a possibility. They didn't have them most of

676
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: last year. They worked around it. So now they'll work

677
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 4: around it again, find a way and when he comes back,

678
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 4: it could be kind of a cherry on top type

679
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: of thing.

680
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: Now, last year the receiver room was not great, certainly

681
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: bottom half of the league. Now you're looking at Hollywood Brown,

682
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy. Juju, says Schuster. I don't does this put

683
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: more pressure on Travis Kelce, who oh, by the way,

684
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: is thirty five and all the almost thirty six.

685
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: No.

686
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 7: I mean, look, the Chiefs do what they do.

687
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: Last year, the issue wasn't so much the receiving core,

688
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 4: but it was the offensive line.

689
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, they just didn't play well. They had

690
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 7: issues that left tackle.

691
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: Then they moved tuneing out from guard to tackle, some

692
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 4: uncertainty at.

693
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 7: That guard spot for a while.

694
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: I think if that part is solidified, and we know

695
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: they did some things to try to change that offensive line,

696
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 4: including drafting someone in the first round, if that part solidified,

697
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: the Chiefs are going to do what they do. I mean,

698
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 4: as long as you got number fifteen, if they've got

699
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: a dink and dunk, they'll do that. They're the field

700
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: here and there, they'll do that. So I don't think

701
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 4: it's so much on Kelsey and that receiving crew as

702
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: he is on the guys up front to let that

703
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: offense function the way Andy Reid wants it to function.

704
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 5: So let's go to Kelsey real quick.

705
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: Obviously, you know he's a celebrity now, he was in

706
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: a movie, he's podcasting, he's engaged to Taylor Swift. Also

707
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 3: entering the final year of his contract. He's talked about

708
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: retirement in the past, talked about all the surgeries he's had.

709
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 3: We would it's safe to assume this is his last ride.

710
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 3: And I'm just curious, do you think you know? Andy

711
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: Reid is sixty seven. There's been speculation previously whether or

712
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: not he hangs them up. I mean, is there a

713
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 3: world where this is really the final run for Red,

714
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 3: Mahmes and Kelsey together.

715
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: It could be.

716
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 7: I don't envision it.

717
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 4: I mean, knowing those those guys as much as I do,

718
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe Travis steps away. I'll tell you this,

719
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 4: He's got his body really together. I saw him some

720
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 4: stuff this offseason. He looks different, he looks fresh. Maybe

721
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: now that he's engaged, you know, he's going to be

722
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: super fresh. I don't know, well with Andy Reid, he

723
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 4: seems someone to me like he just I don't know

724
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: what he would do without coaching, And I just think

725
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 4: that's that's kind of something he hangs on to because

726
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: he knows he impacts lives in a lot of ways. Besides,

727
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 4: he saw on the field and with his staff, and

728
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 4: of course Patrick Mahomes is going to be there.

729
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 7: So I don't envision it.

730
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: That's not to say it couldn't happen, but right now

731
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: I don't see Andy retaining.

732
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 7: You know what, this is one last rodeo we're going out.

733
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 3: Let me pivot to Brock Purdy if you don't mind.

734
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: I am a brock pretty guy. I think he's undervalued significantly.

735
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: He had a quote to Albert Breer saying, he, you know,

736
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: tried to do too much and be superman last year.

737
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: I mean, Steve, their whole team was banged up. He's

738
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: played for a contract. I think he can be superman.

739
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 3: I mean, we have a couple of years worth of

740
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 3: data on this guy. He's really good, is he not.

741
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 7: I'm with you.

742
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 4: I've been a brock pretty guy ever since he came

743
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: in mid stream as a third stringer against the Dolphins

744
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 4: and put up numbers like he's been playing all of

745
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 4: a sudden. The thirds don't get reps. So the fact

746
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 4: he played that way showed me he's got something to him.

747
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: I could see him trying to over extend himself last

748
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 4: year because there's a certain standard with the forty nine

749
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: ers and with you know, Trent Williams down, Deebo, Samuel Down,

750
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 4: Brandon you know, not having a good year, Brandon Ayuk.

751
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 7: Down, a lot of defenders down. This just wasn't the

752
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 7: same team.

753
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 4: So a lot of times guys are going to try

754
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 4: to do more than what they're not necessarily capable of doing,

755
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: but do more than what they should do to live

756
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 4: up to the standard that's been set. I think this

757
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 4: is a reset with some of the changes on that

758
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: roster on both sides of the.

759
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 7: Ball, with a new receiving crew and with.

760
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: CMC back, the opportunity is there for brock Purty to

761
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 4: do some big things. I think this is kind of

762
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: a refresher for the forty nine ers. I don't know

763
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: if they'll be dominant early, but we'll see if they

764
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 4: gain some traction and get going as the season goes along.

765
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 7: But I think Perdy is the least of their worries.

766
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 4: I think he's kind of the north pole that everybody

767
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: can kind of look to to guide them, to guide

768
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: them through.

769
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: I like that. I don't want to be body language

770
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: expert guy when it comes to Ben Johnson. But Steve,

771
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: we keep seeing video of him at the podium looking unhappy.

772
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 5: Now, maybe he's a serious guy. First head coaching.

773
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Job, he wants to look like, you know, a tough

774
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 3: guy who was really locked in, but it doesn't seem

775
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 3: and it's early like things are going great with him

776
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: in Caleb Williams. Rachel had a good point earlier that

777
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: like he's not praising Caleb a ton and a lot

778
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: of it is criticism, and I don't know, Caleb is

779
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: a little fragile. We had this stuff from Seth Wickersham

780
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: about how I didn't want to go to Chicago in

781
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: the first place. What do you make of all this?

782
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't see Bill Belichick ever very happy. I

783
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: know Andy Reids a nice guy, but he's not the

784
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: most jovial. So, you know, in terms of how guys

785
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 4: appear at the press conference, I don't really know, you know,

786
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 4: having been in these situations. It's like the meeting rooms

787
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 4: and stuff. If a coach is like glazing you up

788
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: or are beating you down in front of the team

789
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: in the meeting rooms and really humiliating you in front

790
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: of your peers, that's where things really tend to ruffle

791
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: feathers now.

792
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 7: Some guys, you know, get bent out of see it

793
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 7: by what you said in the media.

794
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: But and I don't know Ben Johnson. I've been around him,

795
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: but he's just an intense guy. There are intense coach

796
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: you've been around Sean McVay. That dude never relaxes. Now

797
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: he is kind of captain positive, yes, but you know,

798
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: there's just different coaches with different styles, and I'm Ben

799
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 4: Johnson's got my benefit of the doubt until he does it,

800
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 4: So we'll we'll see how this works out. I do think,

801
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 4: you know, and I heard the quote that he said,

802
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 4: it's going to take a minute for this entire offense

803
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: to get going. They got a new offensive line, a

804
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 4: lot of new pieces. It's going to take a minute.

805
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 4: But once they get it going. With Ben Johnson what

806
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: he did in Detroit, defensive coordinators fear some of his scheming.

807
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 7: We'll see if it translates now that he's in this

808
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 7: new role.

809
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: I love to ask you guys in the media, you

810
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 3: go to camps, you talk to people. I mean, we're

811
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 3: just out here blathering. Is there a team that you

812
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: see that's maybe undervalued with respect to what everybody else

813
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: is saying. I want that team to be the Falcons,

814
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: a team you know, well, they got an injury on

815
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: the line this week. It's really bad. Is there a

816
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: team that you've seen that you think, hey man, nobody's

817
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: really talking about X. I think they could pop.

818
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 7: It's the team that's in Atlanta's conference, and that's Tampa Bay.

819
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: It's AM's won the division. I don't think we talk

820
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: about them enough roster wise. They are solid pretty much

821
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 4: through and through. But when we talk about teams with

822
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: the culture, that's a team that's got a culture we

823
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 4: don't talk about.

824
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 7: There is a standard there now in Tampa Bay.

825
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 4: When new players come there, they understand defensively, you better

826
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 4: be physical no matter what you do. Offensively, you better

827
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: be precison on time. And we talk about how you know,

828
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: first Dave Canalis and Lea and Comb got the best

829
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 4: out of Baker Mayfield. Maybe Baker is the kingmaker, right.

830
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: I think Tampa Bay is a team that we better

831
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: start paying a lot more attention to, just because they've

832
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: got something institutionally now that's been in place for four

833
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: or five years that we've neglected.

834
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. Maybe Baker's the guy, not

835
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: all these coaches that they keep cycling through. The Baker's

836
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: story is fascinating, how he was kind of kicked to

837
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: the curb in Cleveland, it was over and then it

838
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 3: was rams and there was one other team.

839
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 5: And now he's like a full blown pro bowler, right.

840
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 7: He's legit.

841
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 4: And when you got Mike Evans and you draft a

842
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: Buka who all reviews on him coming out of camp

843
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: had been great. You know, with God went on the

844
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: shelf to start the season, he's got an opportunity to

845
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 4: keep doing some things.

846
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 7: And look, he's kind of started this thing.

847
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 4: You see Geno Smith kind of following there, can Sam

848
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 4: Darnold following there in Seattle where maybe it's more you

849
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: get the talented player in the right situation and then

850
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: that talent can start to shine as it meshes with

851
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 4: what they do mentally in the confidence factor.

852
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's similar to brock Purty, like nobody, nobody viewed

853
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: him as being a guy who could put up these

854
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 3: numbers and take a team to the Super Bowl. Put

855
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: him in the Shanahan offense. Hey, that's fitting. Say well,

856
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Right, by the way, do you

857
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: who do you have coming out of the AFC Steve.

858
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 7: Well, I love Baltimore. I mean that's just your team.

859
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 4: And you know, spending some time at a training Camp,

860
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 4: and I've probably been with the Ravens like the whole time.

861
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 4: You know, you've got the Chiefs, you've got the Bills,

862
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: but the Ravens are just so complete. I think the

863
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: fact that their defense has its footing. Remember last year

864
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: they started with a lot of question marks. The offensive

865
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 4: line started the question marks. Those are solid right now,

866
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 4: so I think they can continue to rock and.

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Speaker 7: Roll with Lamar doing. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 7: Forty one touchdowns, four picks and he wasn't the MVP.

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Speaker 3: Amazing Steve Weisch NFL Network, Great stuff, Steve, keep up

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Speaker 3: the good work. You love your work.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, Steve Wish excellent reporter. That the Ben Johnson

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Speaker 3: stuff is interesting. Rachel made me think. Now Steve's got

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Speaker 3: me could go sideways in Chicago. What do we do

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Speaker 3: at second hour? Rachel? Probably getting in trouble here? Will

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Speaker 3: there be more breaking news? You know, were actually doing

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Speaker 3: more breaking news, more to get to making life so easy?

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll be back our number two. Is there

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Speaker 3: a college football team ready to do the unthinkable? That's

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Speaker 3: next