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He's not from Chicago, which I found interesting, 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:21.560 but he did the Fab Five, did a great job 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:24.560 with that, The Chicago Bears, and now the ten part 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.919 series on Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls. The last 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.920 season that they were together, I saw some interesting numbers 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.480 on the Chicago Bulls that I didn't realize, and of 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.240 course I was there covering them. As it turns out, 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:43.440 worth thousands of others were there. Apparently, Hey, I was there. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:46.920 I covered them. You did, I didn't see you. But 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.320 that's actually where we first met. Is that what it was? 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.560 In the locker room? Oh I didn't know, Seaton. How 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.800 old were you when the bulls were there in nineteen 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:58.840 ninety seven, nineteen ninety eight. I would have just graduated 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:02.680 high school in ninety six, So yeah, I was kept 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.480 college and went right to the bulls. PAULI was working 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.760 a door I think at a bar in New York 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.320 or Arizona. Oh no, when the bulls were on their run, 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.800 I graduated college. H During the part part of the run, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.559 I was a bouncer. Air quotes, Oh no, you worked 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.360 the door as a dormant. Checked id at Sedgewicks in 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:21.480 Lincoln Park and we get to watch all the games. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:26.200 Dorman McLevin, Where were you in nineteen ninety seven, nineteen 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:29.320 ninety eight? Gosh, I've forgotten. I've heard so many stories 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.560 about Paully in that era that I've kind of confused 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.920 it with my own life. I was at Downside Rigors Club. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.920 Don't remember any of that. Yeah, Todd, where were you 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.520 in nineteen ninety seven ninety eight? I was living in 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.920 LA and working in Hollywood for ESPN's Up Close Show 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:51.160 with Chris Myers. All right, I did not know this, 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:55.480 but the Chicago Bulls were I think the oldest NBA 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.760 championship team. You know, Jordan was thirty five when the 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.440 Sea and ended. He led the team in scoring, averaging 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:06.000 just under twenty nine. Only one NBA champ has ever 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:10.400 had an older leading scorer, and that was Kareem Abdul 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.680 Jabbar in nineteen eighty four eighty five, when he was 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:16.600 thirty seven. This is how old The nineteen ninety seven 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:22.880 ninety eight Bulls were oldest title winning team and one 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.200 of the oldest teams in NBA history. So you had 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:29.080 the top three players in regular season minutes, Jordan, Rodman, 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:33.280 and Ron Harper, all at least thirty four. Only two 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.719 other teams in NBA history can say that, the ninety 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.680 eight Rockets and the h nine Sons, their top eight 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:44.320 players in regular season minutes were all at least twenty nine. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.520 Only one other team in NBA history can say that 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.760 that was the Three Knicks. When we talk about Jerry Krauss, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:54.440 and he was the architect, the GM of the Chicago Bulls. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.040 He probably looked at this and said, you know, Scottie 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.039 Pippen was in that year, missed the first thirty five 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:06.560 games he had an injured foot. But you started to 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.680 look at this team and say, are they fragile? How 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:13.520 long can Rodman hold on Michael with all that playoff 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.359 mileage on him and he's going to be thirty five. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.240 And maybe they looked at this and said, we could 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.800 roll the dice, but we're going to blow this up. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.119 That's why it's the last dance. And I wonder about 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.680 that because they started off they were eight and seven. 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:32.719 First fifteen games, they went eight and seven, and then 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.960 people can make the case that's the best basketball team 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.480 we've ever seen. It's generational. I go back to the 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.320 Celtics in the sixties and I think they had at 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:47.400 one point eight or nine all stars on one championship 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:51.120 team with Bill Russell. It's generational. It's the same thing 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.960 with the Bulls. I go back to Showtime with Magic Johnson, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.080 you know Bird with the Celtics there, how great were 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.320 their teams? If you had one series to win and 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.520 you were going to plug in a team, and you 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.840 were looking at these dynasties. It's difficult because I can 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.000 look at Shack and Kobe and when they did it right, 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:13.640 they were spectacular. But I also look at when Magic 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.720 had Kareem and James Worthy and Michael Cooper and Byron 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.600 Scott who and you had a good bench as well. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.840 I got a great coach, pat Riley. I look at 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:28.280 that Celtics team that had Hall of famers at every position. 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:30.560 Sixth Man of the Year was a Hall of Famer 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.760 in Bill Walton. You know, Dennis Johnson, Hall of Famer, 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:37.280 Byrd McHale, Parish hall of Famer, Danny Ainge very good. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.200 You know, there are a lot of great teams, but 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:44.080 you could have depth back then. It's hard now because 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.560 you may have two superstars that's all you can afford. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.600 Maybe you get three really good players. But when you 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.640 start to say, well, that's the greatest team of all time, 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.880 I can say that Showtime is the most entertaining team 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.680 I've ever seen. That was something we had not seen 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.119 in the NBA. They sort of changed the game where 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.720 you were up tempo and you you were having fun 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:11.400 with that, like actually smiling playing basketball and then even 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:15.800 the Celtics back then ran, you know Bird McHale, they ran, 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.640 and you wouldn't think that those guys would be out 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:20.400 on the break, but they did. You look back on 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.640 those videos, you know Jordan's team, Oh, how would they 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.640 compare with the Golden State Warriors with Kevin Durant and 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.000 Clay Thompson and Steph Curry. Well, they didn't have three 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.760 point shooters back then, but you weren't required to have 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.520 three point shooters. I'm going to guess Michael would have 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.320 changed his game to shoot more threes. We saw what 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:41.480 he did against the Portland Trailblazers when they beat them 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:45.320 in the NBA finals. You had Craig Hodges, you had 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.120 John Paxson, you had Steve Kerry. They would have added 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.240 to Ron Harper probably would have been a better three 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:55.080 point shooter. Tony Ku coach like you, you would have evolved, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.559 because you have to evolve. I saw where Shack was saying, 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.440 you know that his Laker team with Kobe, they would 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:05.439 have crushed the Bulls because Shack would have dominated Bill Wennington, 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:10.760 Bill Cartwright and Luke Longley, which is true, but that's 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:15.000 you know the game has changed since then, because how 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.640 would you do against Golden State. I'm sure you would 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.319 dominate JaVale McGee, but you know you got all of 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.720 the Kevin Durant, Steph Curry and Clay Thompson, those guys, 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.680 and Andrea Goodala, who was the MVP of the Finally, 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.160 that's where you get into these arguments that I don't 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.520 think you could ever win, and you don't lose, but 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.400 you can't win. It's fun, it's fun to discuss that, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.840 but you know, it's generational and it feels like we 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.320 have one of those teams every ten years where you go, boy, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.320 that's that team could stack up against anybody. And I 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:49.520 wondered about this, and I know it sounded crazy when 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:53.760 I said it yesterday. Would Michael Jordan be as good 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:58.760 as Steph Curry in today's NBA? Now I'm looking at 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:03.360 his style versus We know Michael's a better player, but 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.480 I'm talking about the impact on the game because I 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.360 think Steph Curry will be remembered as having a bigger 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:14.240 impact on the game than Jordan. Because if I look 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.520 at Jordan, we look at Jordan and he's become Babe Ruth. 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:22.520 You know, there's a mythological field to Mike now, because 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.839 this documentary is going to bring it all back to you. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.720 If you didn't see it, now you're gonna understand who 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:31.120 Mike was, how he played, how he treated opponents, how 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:36.400 he treated teammates as well. But you start to look 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:40.760 at Steph Curry's impact on the game, and not everybody 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.160 can dunk, but there are a lot of people who 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.480 can shoot threes or think they can shoot three. You 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.720 can't go I think I can dunk? Do you do 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:53.080 say to yourself, I think I can shoot threes? I 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:57.520 mean Trey Young is successful because as Steph Curry. Steph 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:02.480 Curry open the eyes of a lot of players to say, 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.200 you can be like this and be great. You don't 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.440 have to be like Mike, because nobody can be like Mike, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.960 but you can be like Steph Curry just from the 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.320 point of you can shoot these shots. Of course, got 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.280 to make him. But I you know, I was wondering 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:21.520 about that yesterday. I can't undersell the impact of Steph 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.760 Curry on the game of basketball. The three used to 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.560 be what are you doing? And I can't oversell Steph 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.760 Curry like you're shooting three? You can't shoot that far out. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.800 That's because of Steph Curry. Now, not everybody should be 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:41.840 Steph Curry changed the game, right If I go back 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:46.400 seven years ago, eight years ago, nobody was doing that. 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.440 It was crazy what he was doing. Steve Kerr, who 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:54.959 played with Jordan, he was like, what are you doing? 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.040 Running around like that and then taking those shots, and 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.080 then he realized he's got the greatest shooter in the 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.440 history of the game there. Now, would Michael have evolved 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:07.600 to shoot threes, Yes, he would, So would Larry Bird, 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:13.680 So would Magic? You would be doing Imagine Bird taking 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:18.920 ten threes a game, all right? He never made more 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.640 than three in a game in his career. I don't 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:26.800 think you know, if I said Bird shooting ten, if 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.200 Magic all of a sudden, you know, has hit at 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.040 his height, he could take he inside, but he could 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.160 also you got to guard him at the three point 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:37.000 line as well, and he developed a legitimate set shot 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.320 there from three point range? You know, would Isaiah Thomas 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.880 be more of a three point shooter like you? Just 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:48.480 the game has evolved. It's not just I. It was physical. Hey, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:52.720 I can dunk to Now there's no real center and 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.320 you got five guys on the perimeter used to be 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.920 an inside outside game at pick and roll. It's changed, 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.480 and a lot of that is bec Steph Curry. He's 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.760 not a better basketball player than Michael Jordan, but he 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:09.080 might have a bigger impact because of today's youth that 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.080 you know, kids now, go watch a game, go watch 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:15.360 a fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh grade game. They think 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:19.240 they're Steph Curry and they're gonna think there's Steph Curry 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:25.080 while he's still playing. But I can underestimate or overestimate 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:27.320 his impact on the game. And I know I said 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.839 this yesterday and people question that Lebron to me, is 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.559 a better basketball player than Michael Jordan. Not a better player, 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:38.800 better all around basketball player with what he does, you know, 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:44.280 certainly a better teammate, better passer, better rebounder. And he 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.040 could be he could be a center, and he could 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:51.760 be a point guard. Michael obviously who had the killer instinct. 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:56.040 And I wonder what Michael would be like now. I'm 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.560 I'm worried about this when this documentary comes out how 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.440 we viewed Jordan because Jordan could do it back then, 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.280 but he couldn't be Jordan like this now because social 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.840 media would probably be pretty rough on him and the 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.280 reporters too, TMZ guys, you know, wanting to get a 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:19.840 scoop here, you got NBA insiders, you know, you'd have 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.720 Wos and you'd have Brian Wynhorse that who would be 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.120 their job would be to follow Jordan. Rachel Nichols would 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:30.360 be interviewing. He got to be able to hide a 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:36.480 little bit. Lebron can't hide Lebron. He's there. And I 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.320 think if if I switched these and Lebron played back 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:44.760 when Mike did and Jordan played now, Lebron would be 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.360 the greatest basketball player of all time because there was 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.960 nobody like him, and really there still hasn't been anybody 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:56.920 like him, but I do I'm curious how people react 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.600 to this documentary with Jordan. Where they got was a jerk, 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.880 and you know, Jordan was on Good Morning America. I 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.440 was kind of surprised that he went on. It feels 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.720 like he's trying to soften his image a little bit 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.080 before this comes out. And it's okay to be who 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:17.080 you were. That's who Kobe was. You know, Burden didn't 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:21.560 like you, he was rough on his teammates. That's just 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:25.160 who you were and how you played back then you 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.440 don't have to apologize. We didn't get to see this. 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.680 Even the Steve Kerr where he punches his teammate story 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.360 that you know came out and people are like, wait, 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:42.800 what happened? So you have these situations here where these 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:47.040 things happened, and it was almost like folklore, like hey, 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:50.600 do you hear the story about Mike and Scottie and 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.560 you get a little but like it was just word 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.600 of mouth. And that's what I'm curious how the PC 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.160 police are going to react to Michael Jordan, Oh that language. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.800 All I know is he got his players to play. 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:07.920 All I know is when he went to a finals, 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.560 he won. All I know is when you needed something big, 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.560 he came up big. I can't argue with any of that. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.000 You start to judge players by personality. Then it gets 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:25.240 dangerous because if I said, hey, you know what Lebron did. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:29.160 He punched one of his teammates during practice. Hey you 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.440 know what Lebron did? He went to Atlantic City. He 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.040 was gambling for a playoff game. Like if I told 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:38.760 you look at what Lebron is doing, you would kill him. 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.960 On social media With Michael, somehow we go it's like 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.200 when we look at mobsters. When you watch a documentary 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.520 on mobsters, it's amazing. How we go. God, I hope 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.800 they get away with this man. I know he's a 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:57.840 bad guy. Suddenly. I care about Bugsy Siegel here, But 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.800 with Michael, I think we sort of said we love 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:04.359 the end product here, we love what that is. And 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:09.640 it's the last dynasty where we actually were rooting for them. 0:17:10.400 --> 0:17:14.040 Everybody was unless they were facing your team. And even then. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.719 I remember being in Atlanta going to a game the 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.240 Hawks against the Bulls, and ninety percent of that crowd 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:26.480 was there to see the Chicago Bulls against their team. 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:31.480 It felt like Golden State. We got tired of that dynasty. 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.320 It's because of social media. If the Bulls played now, 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.520 be like, oh, Rodman up to his antics again, I'll pippin. 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.800 They doesn't want to go in the game, you know, 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:45.600 Michael gambling whatever else he's doing off the like, we 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:50.199 would have chewed that up and spit it out, Like 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.040 how long did it take before we got tired of 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:56.879 Golden State? Three years? When Durant got there, We're like, 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.600 m we're done with this. You know, the Patriots dynasty 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.720 of sorts. People got tired of that quickly. They didn't 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:08.359 not be loved, admired, not beloved. The Bulls are beloved. 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:14.040 They're like a boy band. But there's a lot of 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:19.120 pressure on this director to make this payoff. It's it's 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:24.040 it's ten hours of this and I want to know 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:29.160 and maybe maybe the director will tell me did they did? 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:33.400 They have to convince Jordan to do this, because I'm 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:40.240 wondering if he was first or last. And in knowing Mike, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.119 he's a control freak. I'm sure he had his hands 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:46.080 all over this and saying, hey, I'll do this, but 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.679 this is how I want it done. All right, mclove 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:51.480 And you got a pull question. This program brought to 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.880 you by legal Zoom. They made it easy to set 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.320 up the right estate plan without leaving your home. Taking 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.400 care of your family today with the right estate plan 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.080 at legal Zoom. Okay, I have one, but you're not 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:07.399 gonna like it. Okay, why don't we want the best team? Wait? 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.640 Let's wait then if I'm not gonna like it, well, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.000 you said specifically don't bring this debate up, but I 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.440 have to. I really I want to put it out 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.080 there and I'll save it. Okay, but everybody in sports 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.800 bars argues this very topic about NBA teams. Okay, do 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.840 you want to hear it? Yeah? From nineteen eighty to 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.440 two thousand, who is the best team? Is somebody backing 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.359 up over you with what this question is going to be? 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:34.159 I hear a truck backing up. Yeah, I have a 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.480 new mic and I noticed this kicking up the sound 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.080 in Brooklyn. It seems like it could be a problem. Okay, 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:42.120 I'm gonna blame the it guy or Mario. So who 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:46.359 is a better team? Lakers, Celtics or Bulls? I don't. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:50.160 I don't know if you can. I don't think there's 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.879 a wrong answer. I don't. I mean, the Pistons were 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.520 a wonderful team. Nobody liked him, but boy they were 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.679 a great team. You know this Golden State team with Durant, 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:01.679 curR and Clay thoms So I have three of the 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.480 I have, you know, the greatest shooter of all time, 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.440 Klay Thompson's in the conversation of top ten of all time, 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.840 and Durant is in the top five of one of 0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:16.200 the greatest scores of all time. I got firepower there, 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.320 so do I put them in there as well? I 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.840 got a stat for you. You know, I'll take a break. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.680 It has to do with the Bulls in nineteen ninety seven, 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.359 ninety eight and Steph Curry. I think it will surprise 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.360 you a little bit. All Right, we'll take a break here, 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:33.480 we'll come back. Phone calls are welcome. Also, these high 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:37.680 school players who are now going to Australia. Now you 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:41.760 got the number one player in high school, a kid 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:46.080 out of Fresno, and he's going to the G League. 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:51.760 I didn't even know this program existed, but is this 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.040 the new norm of what you're going to have with 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.960 some of these kids. R J. Hampton went over to Australia, 0:20:57.119 --> 0:21:00.280 LaMelo Ball went over there. Those guys are all you know. 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.440 Lamella might be the number one pick overall. Jalen Green 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.640 out of Fresno the number one player going into college, 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.000 but he's not going to college. We'll talk about that. 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.520 Pat Forty will join us coming up to talk about this. 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.920 And also are we going to expand from four playoff 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:18.720 teams to maybe sixteen in college football? So a lot 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.879 to get to. Phone calls are welcome here, just getting 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.480 wound up. It's twenty after the hour here on the 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:30.920 Dan Patrick Show. Wood fired grill Tregger the Swiss Army 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:36.040 Knife of grills because I have six and one versatility. 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.080 You know, you can roast and braise, bake, you can 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.920 do all these different things. The best thing about cooking 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:44.320 on a trigger is it's easy. 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You might see or here's something that will 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:56.680 change your opinion of Michael Jordan watching this last dance, 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.760 maybe it will enhance his image even more and say, oh, 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:04.560 how can you compare Lebron to Michael Jordan. It's hard 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.199 to compare the two, but I do think that we 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.000 hold Lebron accountable for all the losses in the finals, 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:12.800 when if you look at the teams he played for 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:15.720 to get to the finals, it was rare when he 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:19.640 had somebody like Scottie Pippen. And when he did, he 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.320 was with the Miami Heat and they won a couple 0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.840 of titles there. But what he did when he first 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:26.760 got there at age twenty two, the team he took 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.160 to the finals to face the Spurs, which had how 0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:32.919 many Hall of famers on it, and he lost. I 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:36.240 think the fact that you go to nine NBA finals 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.359