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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, April first, the year of our Lord,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: To snow joke.

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Speaker 2: Tired of it already. I was tired of it by

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Speaker 2: ten am. We're just gonna do a show tonight. There's

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Speaker 2: gonna be no Easter egg figuratively or literally within the

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Speaker 2: show tonight. No jokes now anything except for my co

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Speaker 2: hosts who still here. As you can see, you can't

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Speaker 2: see it on podcasts. Trust me, you don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Our our pal Samba Tech, by the way up in Stamford.

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Speaker 1: Just suggested that I put a smiley face on him.

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Speaker 2: And if I would have found a sharpie and plenty

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Speaker 2: enough time today, I probably would have. But we've got

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Speaker 2: a jam packed show nonetheless tonight, and I want to

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Speaker 2: mention something happened about an hour ago that happens once every.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, four or five months.

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Speaker 2: To me, I so badly misread the room, badly misread

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Speaker 2: back when I was independent. We're pushing forward again tonight.

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Speaker 2: We got to use our power for good around here,

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Speaker 2: not evil. So we're gonna push for real spring games. Also,

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Speaker 2: Spring games already. So we're gonna give you from several

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Speaker 2: different programs what we're hearing tonight. And also Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: what a treasure Justin Fields is? For two reasons among many.

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Speaker 2: He was fun to watch, but he's exposing a lot

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about that before the show

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Speaker 2: We are marching ever closer to two thousand on Instagram,

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Speaker 2: remember every thousand that we hit over there at Late

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Speaker 2: Kick Josh. We are going to do another Late Kickshow

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Speaker 2: Owners Association meeting. I think we're on track probably by

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Speaker 2: Everyone wants change. People talk about change all the time.

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Speaker 1: How can they survive? Well, why don't you just move

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Speaker 2: Why don't you move Texas, Texas A and M rather

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Speaker 2: So everyone's happy, right, Apparently not because no one agrees

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Speaker 1: So I mean I put down a sixth point. Imagine

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Speaker 2: Go find your dance partner, whether it's the Power five level,

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Speaker 2: But I would just love for the conferences to be

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Speaker 1: No it's not. No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: Brigham Young in Coastal Carolina got a actual football game

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Speaker 1: And so, yes, of course this could happen.

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Speaker 2: Conferences could open the door, Conferences could loosen restrictions, They

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Speaker 1: Point number two.

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Speaker 2: If your ice under your blades is already thin enough

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Speaker 1: Injuries are happening. Injuries part of the game.

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Speaker 2: Just make it happen. Let's move on. Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: I just want to affirm that my suspicion is correct. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I go there and I say, who do you

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Speaker 2: And I put LSU Auburn, Arkansas Ole missing. Here was

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Speaker 1: But then I.

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Speaker 2: Assumed most people are looking at A and M right now.

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Speaker 2: It's important to note right now and moving forward, not

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Speaker 1: Right now, I'm moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I figured everyone thought A and M was the second

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Speaker 2: And I know good and well they're not all LSU fans.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about twenty nineteen. I don't care about

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Speaker 1: Moving forward the program right.

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Speaker 2: At this moment in time, and moving forward down the

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Speaker 1: Programs are set up better? That's it. That's all, okay.

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Speaker 2: So jockeying beneath Alabama's fascinating has been for several years there.

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Speaker 1: So this is certainly an uphill battle for anyone.

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Speaker 2: But the first thing I thought to do, I thought

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Speaker 1: That's down the road. That's what I thought we were

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Speaker 2: But now that I see, there's so much pushback and

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Speaker 2: Yeah it happened, man, I was on the field. I've

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about moving forward. So to me, this is

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Speaker 2: So certainly this could change year to year to right now,

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Speaker 2: They've got stability, They've got proven leadership there. I don't

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Speaker 2: If some would argue with that's fine, we could debate

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Speaker 1: That's fine, that's an adequate debate.

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Speaker 2: But I keep on looking at this, and I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: So that's why I put A and M at number two.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you push back on that, but three, four,

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Speaker 1: Now I'll put LSU number three. I don't have a

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Speaker 2: And then four and five we start really getting into

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Speaker 2: Pittman and Arkansas was the twenty twenty season just a

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'll put LSU as number three. They could

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Speaker 2: and we could look back at twenty twenty and I

441
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,119
Speaker 2: may end up saying about LSU's twenty twenty the same

442
00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,440
Speaker 2: thing I'm saying right now, or at least I think

443
00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,280
Speaker 2: about Penn State's twenty twenty. Maybe the end. The volatility

444
00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 2: down there worries me. That's all I'll say about that.

445
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,920
Speaker 2: So there is still a really good roster there, exceptional roster.

446
00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,119
Speaker 2: There's still exceptional recruiting there. There are a lot of

447
00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,760
Speaker 2: ways that LSU could erase everything and change what's coming

448
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,400
Speaker 2: out of my mouth.

449
00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,320
Speaker 1: I got Arkansas a number four.

450
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,600
Speaker 2: I put him above Auburn, I put him above all

451
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,919
Speaker 2: and miss I got Arkansas number four because I trust

452
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 2: the culture there, I trust the stability there. But there's

453
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,120
Speaker 2: this entire over the cliff mentality about Arkansas. You don't

454
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 2: find this at very many places there is. There are

455
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 2: some instances where a guy that wouldn't make sense for

456
00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,400
Speaker 2: many other programs, you find the program that he makes

457
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,800
Speaker 2: sense for it. So it's like puzzle pieces coming together.

458
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 2: That puzzle piece wouldn't fit anywhere else on this board,

459
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 2: but favle Arkansas. That's where Sam Pittman fits. And so

460
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 2: when you get that, there are these intangibles that just

461
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 2: start manifesting themselves and you get this some of the

462
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 2: parts greater than the individual pieces kind of result week

463
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,959
Speaker 2: after week after week, and there's this energy that you

464
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,800
Speaker 2: could see sort of forming around Arkansas. You felt it

465
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 2: last year and then they got robbed of a game.

466
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,879
Speaker 2: Then they kept it on the rails. Could that continue

467
00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 2: to increase year over year? I'm willing to bet yes.

468
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,479
Speaker 2: I'm willing to believe in that enough to where I'll

469
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 2: go Arkansas number four, and I don't think they're going

470
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: to struggle in recruiting like the.

471
00:19:58,359 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 1: Last staff did.

472
00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,199
Speaker 2: I got stuff for you, by the way, on Arkansas's

473
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 2: inability to recruit that will blow your mind. A stat

474
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: Trey Biddy put up on howksports dot com either today, yesterday, Crazy.

475
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that a little bit later

476
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 2: in the show. But to round it out, I got

477
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 2: Arkansas four, I've got Auburn at five, and that's a

478
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,560
Speaker 2: new staff there obviously, so really no clue what to expect.

479
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 1: Ole miss at number.

480
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 2: Six could easily interchange those could easily do that, could

481
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,719
Speaker 2: easily put Old Missus high as number four in Mississippi.

482
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 1: State's my number seven. But you let me know what

483
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:26,480
Speaker 1: you think.

484
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,199
Speaker 2: I don't do these costs to action very often, but

485
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 2: I will be very fascinating to look in the comment

486
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,679
Speaker 2: section here and see how many people are making And

487
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: I want to stress this again, logic based reasoned conclusions

488
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 2: that LSU is currently the number two program still in

489
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 2: the SEC West now and moving forward. If anyone wants

490
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 2: to prove me wrong, I'll be happy.

491
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 1: To read it.

492
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: I just haven't seen it so far. How about some

493
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 2: spring intel and whispers. We got a lot of them,

494
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 2: so I had to narrow it down tonight. Let's waste

495
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: no time. The Arkansas linebacker situation. This is what I

496
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: was just referencing like two minutes ago. Fascinating stuff. So

497
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 2: Trey Biddy over on howksports dot com, who does a

498
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: really really good YouTube product in his own right by

499
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 2: the way. He puts something up that I had to

500
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 2: read like three times to make sure I had read

501
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: it correctly. He was talking about Arkansas's linebacker situation. They

502
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: got a lot of young linebackers. They're really hoping pan

503
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 2: out like Tanner Morgan's done really good for him, Bumper

504
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 2: Pool's done really good for him. But now they really

505
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: need a next wave come through because they really need depth.

506
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,800
Speaker 2: And then he put this stat up and it's kind

507
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: of subjective, but it's real, like he's right about this.

508
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: He was talking about all of the terrible either evaluations

509
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: on linebacker recruiting or luck or injury and departure, all

510
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: of this stuff has coalesced to create this terrible void,

511
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 2: this black hole on Arkansas's roster when it comes to linebacker.

512
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: How about this little stat. Over the last four years,

513
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: well over a four year spam, let me put it

514
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 2: that way, Arkansas had one major contributing linebacker come their

515
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 2: way via high school recruiting.

516
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: One and that's Bumper Pooled one. Over the span of fuck.

517
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: Can you imagine going four full recruiting classes and only

518
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: getting one decent linebacker out of that entire crew for

519
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 2: whatever reason, only one of those guys ends up contributing,

520
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: and you're trying to play in the SEC. You're trying

521
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: to compete against Alabama and LSU in Texas, A and

522
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 2: M and Auburn with one linebacker every four years.

523
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: Predictably, it didn't work out well.

524
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: So that's why they have a new coaching staff up

525
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 2: there one year in now. Keep a close eye on that.

526
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: There are a lot of young guys. You wouldn't recognize

527
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: the names right now, but they got a lot of

528
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: young linebackers and they got to fill the void. Not

529
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: only do they need to find some front line guys,

530
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 2: they need to find depth providers. Otherwise, I mean, it's

531
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: you better score forty five points a game. That's kind

532
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: of the situation that you'd be in. How about Penn State.

533
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 2: Penn State and tempo. If you followed the Nitney Lions,

534
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: if you've listened to James Franklin up there at Press,

535
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: Availabilities and whatnot, Tempo's the word they've used for a while.

536
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: They had more Head as an offensive coordinator, they talked

537
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: about tempo. Then they brought in Kurk Sharraka, they talked

538
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: about tempo, and now they brought in Time yours.

539
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: They're talking about tempo. Here's what was interesting.

540
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: James Franklin met with the media before a recent practice.

541
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 2: It maybe yesterday, I think it was, and he said,

542
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: I kind of paraphrased it. He said, you know, we've

543
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: hired offensive coaches in the past who claimed to run tempo.

544
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: And then they didn't run tempo.

545
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: Now, that is a pretty heavy statement if you really

546
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: stop and think about it, because where does the blame

547
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 2: lie there.

548
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, part one is, well, you hired him, you vetted.

549
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: Him, Like how in the world did you misunderstand who

550
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 2: you were hiring. But then you have, on the other hand,

551
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 2: the fact that, yeah, you could just get flat out

552
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: lied to and maybe someone doesn't stick to whatever their

553
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: track record was.

554
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, all you can do is watch what they've done.

555
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 2: And if they come your way and you hire them

556
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: based on what they've done and then they don't do

557
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: that thing, then yeah, you could make a move. And

558
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: to his credit, now he has made some recent moves.

559
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 2: So he's not talking that way about his current coordinator.

560
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: He's talking that way about his past coordinators. But they

561
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: can't be seventy percent of anything. We can talk all

562
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: we want to about Sean Clifford, and about what we

563
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 2: got some experience returning on the O line, like wide receiver,

564
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 2: tied end, maybe maybe not running backs loading. It doesn't

565
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: matter if they're seventy percent of something. So they've got

566
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: questions defensively. We've talked about it at linebacker and safety.

567
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 2: They've got questions there, which is why they got to

568
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent of something offensively, which is what

569
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 2: I continue to watch, and it's again hard to glean

570
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: what exactly is happening because you don't get to stand

571
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 2: there and watch every rep in practice, And even if

572
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: we did, I don't know how much we'd really be

573
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: able to glean from it. But ultimately, what at least

574
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: we want to be hearing coming out of spring practice

575
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: is we got some things understood. We laid a foundation

576
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: that we didn't have a chance to lay last year

577
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: because of course we had no spring. But come fall,

578
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: all these pieces and all this relative depth at different positions,

579
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: and this experience and hopefully potential at quarterback with Sean Clifford,

580
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: it's all meaningless if you're just dabbling. You got to

581
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: if you're a Penn State fan and you could ask

582
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 2: for one thing above anything else, it's just be one

583
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: hundred percent all in some kind of philosophy. And what

584
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: James Franklin is saying here is that's what we plan

585
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 2: on doing, and it's gonna heavily incorporate tempo. Now, the

586
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: problem there is, as he said, we've said that in

587
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: the past and it didn't happen, so we hear it

588
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: all the time. No one ever has a press conference

589
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: in the spring and say, you know what we're gonna

590
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: do is we're gonna really slow it down offensively. Everyone

591
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: talks about speeding it up offensively. Everyone talks about putting

592
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: the defense in compromised situations, running more plays, getting more reps,

593
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: and putting your skilled players in space to make play.

594
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: Everyone talks about that stuff. Can you do it hopefully

595
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: with a spring?

596
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 2: That makes all the difference in the world here, along with,

597
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: of course, portions of a new offensive staff over in

598
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: Ames Iowa my backyard, not where I grew up, but

599
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: you know my rooting.

600
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: Interest at least Iowa State. I want to talk in

601
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: general terms here.

602
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about one position group, but general terms,

603
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: Iowa State has a lot of returning pieces. Okay, as

604
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: we've noted, many times here, we don't always value the

605
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: returning starter number as this end all be all definite

606
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: indication of whether you're going to improve or you know,

607
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: a lack of returning starters automatically means you're going to regress.

608
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: Sometimes you just are who you are, and sometimes you

609
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: have a different team dynamic comeback. You could return twenty

610
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: two starters, you're not return to the same team, so

611
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 2: all kinds of things could change over the course of

612
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: a season. I would state it's got a really good culture,

613
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 2: like I've I've got zero concern about any well, any

614
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 2: kind of complacency setting it.

615
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: They didn't win anything of note to be complacent.

616
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: They I mean, they went to the Fiesta Bowl, of course,

617
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: like that's that's nice, that's really good to win that,

618
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: But they didn't win.

619
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: The Big Twelve.

620
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,719
Speaker 2: They certainly didn't go to the College Football Playoff. All

621
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: the big goals there are still in front of them.

622
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: So complacency, I don't worry about that.

623
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: But what I'm very curious about is when we enter

624
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 2: preview magazine season. You know this is coming, Preview magazine

625
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: season is going to come around, and someone's going to

626
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: try and sell you on the concept that because a

627
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: lot of these pieces return, Iowa State automatically gets twelve

628
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: percent better than they were last year, just because if

629
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: you come back, that automatically means you're a little bit

630
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: better of a player.

631
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not, I don't know.

632
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 2: What if you're so good at developing guys that by

633
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: the third or fourth year in your program you've maxed

634
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: out your potential, I don't know. So my point is,

635
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: I was State was good enough last year. If they

636
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: would have started faster, which I'll address in the second,

637
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: they could have gone undefeated in the regular season for

638
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: all we know, and gone into the Big twelve championship

639
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: game with with some room to stretch a little bit.

640
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: Having said that, there's one area that gives me a

641
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: little confidence here because remember last year they started with

642
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: a Week one loss to Louisiana. Do you realize Louisiana

643
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: opens with Texas in Week one this year? By the way,

644
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: just keep that in mind, just little side note text

645
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: outside your mind, Texas opens this year. I've gone horribly

646
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: off point Texas and all their infinite wisdom out there.

647
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: They scheduled Louisiana and Arkansas weeks one and weeks two.

648
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. I don't necessarily know Sark's gonna appreciate it. Anyway,

649
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 2: back on track here, I was State when they opened

650
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: life last year. Their wide receiver core was not up

651
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: to park. There was there was not the n SYNC

652
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: synergy whatever you want to use, it wasn't there, and

653
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: they could not make plays at critical times in that

654
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: first game against Louisiana and they lost because of that.

655
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 2: They are night and day different at that position. I

656
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: think this upcoming year they got a lot of talent,

657
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: a lot of experience returning, and you got the same

658
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: quarterback there obviously in Purtty, So hopefully there is a

659
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 2: lot more clicking going on from the start as opposed

660
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: to having to wait until like week six or week

661
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 2: seven for that to happen. And lastly, but not least,

662
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: Georgia defensively, you know, they got probably their most losable game,

663
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: the Florida game, notwithstanding who knows what either team's going

664
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: to be, to be honest with you by that point

665
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: in the year. But Georgia opens against Clemson this year,

666
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: and so they are going to play that game in Charlotte,

667
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 2: and Georgia's got one of those green talent issues right now.

668
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: They got all the talent in the world, Like they've

669
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: got four or five star guys everywhere in their secondary.

670
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: Hardly any of them played any kind of meaningful football

671
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: for him, though, And so you listen to names like

672
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: Kiley Ringo and Jalen Kimber, and you know, I was

673
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 2: reading Jake Rowe's stuff over on the Dog's twenty four

674
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: seven message board, like they've got really good things to

675
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: say about Jaalen Kimber, they got pretty good things to

676
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: say about Khilley Ringo. But every one of them has

677
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: this little caveat Buddy still got a long way to go.

678
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: Buddy needs to keep improving, but he's still.

679
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: Got to carve out the mental edge that he needs

680
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: to be able to be trusted on the field. Well,

681
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: here's what that really means. What it means is they're

682
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: gonna have to be pretty basic early in the year.

683
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: And this isn't the first time Kirby Smart's dealt with this,

684
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: probably even at Georgia. But I remember when he was

685
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator back at Bama when they had their

686
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: worst year in twenty ten.

687
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: It was eerily similar to what he's dealing with right now.

688
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: At Georgia.

689
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: They had a whole bunch of talents like Drake Kirkpatrick

690
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: when that crew started for Bama. But they were all freshmen,

691
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: they were all first year starters. They had problems and

692
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: they got lit up by the likes of Steven Garcia

693
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: for example. Remember that remember that year, and so they

694
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: had all the talent in the world, like a lot

695
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: of the guys who were on the field getting torched

696
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: by Steven Garcia ended up being first round second round

697
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: draft picks didn't matter because it was baptism by fire.

698
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: And I wonder how far along Georgia can get this

699
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: secondary by the time they well, they arrived a week

700
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: one because they're playing Clemson. It's not They're not like Auburn.

701
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: Auburn's got a couple of tune up games before they

702
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: go to Penn State. Side note, Auburn plays at Penn

703
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: State this year. Georgia doesn't have that. They play in

704
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: Week one.

705
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: Now.

706
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: Luckily Clemson is not without a load of questions on

707
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: their own, right, But yeah, Jalen Kimber, Keiley Ringo, like

708
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: all these names, everyone's gonna count on up there. It's

709
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: it's great if we're talking about projecting week six and

710
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 2: week seven, Week one. I don't know, And to be

711
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: honest with you, I don't think that coaching staff is

712
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: going to have any kind of firm grasp on what

713
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: do expect. I mean, guys can completely go deer in headlights.

714
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: You can think you have secondary figured out in practice,

715
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: and then when it's ten minutes, thirty seven seconds to

716
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: go in the first quarter of game one week one,

717
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: and you've already given up three passes of twenty plus yards,

718
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: everything goes blank. Like you've seen it happen a million times.

719
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: Let's just hope it doesn't happen with Georgia.

720
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: All right.

721
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 2: I want to wrap up with this. Justin Fields is

722
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: doing a lot of public service for you, and you

723
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: don't realize that. I don't care if you're a Michigan fan.

724
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're a Georgia fan or right

725
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: anything in between. Justin Fields is performing public service for

726
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: all of us.

727
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: The first bit of.

728
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: Public service that he performed, and this is the Ohio

729
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: State quarterback if you're unfamiliar somehow, the first bit of

730
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: public service that Justin Field's performed for all of us

731
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: this year was he was very vocal about getting the

732
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: college football season started. He stepped up, like Trevor Lawrence

733
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: stepped up. A lot of players stepped up. But when

734
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: the Big Ten announced they were closing up shop, they

735
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: didn't announce we're going to think about it, or we're

736
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: going to form an exploratory committee.

737
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: They said we're done.

738
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: And by the way, Kevin Warren and company said we

739
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: will not revisit this issue about a month before they

740
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: revisited the issue. So Justin Fields immediately comes to the forefront,

741
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: and it's important for him to speak up because he's

742
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: the biggest player voice.

743
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: In the conference.

744
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: And he was adamant in saying things along the lines of, well,

745
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: you say you're doing this for the players, I speak

746
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: for many of them.

747
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: We want to play, let us play, and so they

748
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: end up playing.

749
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: So that was good because he exposed a lot of frauds,

750
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: to be blatantly honest with you in the Big ten

751
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: front office when he did that, and now he's exposing

752
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: a lot more fraud. I'm not going to go as

753
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: far as to call the people he's exposing frauds like

754
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: I did with the Big Ten, but I will say

755
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: there's a lot of fraud out there.

756
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: It is we're in the Master season. Right now, it's April.

757
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: Everyone around CBS is excited because we've got the Masters

758
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: coming up. Well, there's another tradition unlike any other. It's

759
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: just not trademarked or copyright for obvious reasons. But there's

760
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: another one this time of year. You've observed it. I've

761
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: observed it.

762
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: We've all observed it.

763
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: The draft types, as I like to call them, the

764
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: mock community, mock drafts all over the place. The mock

765
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: community comes out of whatever basement they've been hibernating in

766
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: for about eleven and a half months, and they start

767
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: schooling you and I on the players that we've been

768
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: watching for years, and they start telling you, no, no,

769
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: forget everything you thought you knew. Even though we're in

770
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: a lot of cases watching these folks for the first time,

771
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: we're going to I'll tell you how good they really are.

772
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: So there's this narrative out there. I had detest the

773
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: word narrative out there that Justin Fields is dropping. You

774
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: heard this, Justin Field's dropping. Did you see this on

775
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: fillingtheblink dot com this morning? Did you see this on

776
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: Filling the Blank network this morning? Latest mock draft Justin

777
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: Field is dropping? Justin Field is not dropping anywhere. Justin

778
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Fields is not dropping any more than the lottery is changing.

779
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: Because you had your card filled out and then you

780
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: erase the six and put a seven.

781
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: The lottery didn't change. The lottery just is what it's

782
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: gonna be.

783
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: The little ping pong balls don't care about whether you

784
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: changed the last number on your card. They're just gonna

785
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: be what they are. The draft is just gonna be

786
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: what it's gonna be. It doesn't matter if a twenty

787
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: two year old fresh out of college journalist who puts

788
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: out a mock draft every Monday causes copy editor tells

789
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 2: him to It doesn't matter if he moved Justin Fields

790
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: from nine to sixteen. It's independent of what's actually gonna happen.

791
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: Justin Fields isn't dropping.

792
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: It's just there's this little cottage industry of creating this

793
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: stuff around this time of year.

794
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: The mock community does not know more than in many

795
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: cases we do.

796
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: In fact, I would argue the mock community knows far

797
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 2: less about Justin Fields than a number of us do, who.

798
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't know have watched him since he was in

799
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: a high school. You don't have to question what you

800
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: know about Justin Fields.

801
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 2: Nobody who has been around Justin Fields knows him, has

802
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: watched him play, has coached him, or anything of the like,

803
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 2: questions his work ethic, his integrity, his character, his mental capacity,

804
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: his physical capacity. No one questions this stuff. So when

805
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: you start to hear people cite anonymous sources, always anonymous,

806
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: and they start questioning that stuff, just ask yourself, who

807
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: knows more here? Does the mock community know more? Or

808
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: do I know more after watching him? We're not talking

809
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: about a NASA, a former NASA retiree walking in and

810
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: explaining rocket science to you, because if you watched Armageddon

811
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: fifteen times, you still probably don't know as much as the.

812
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: Retire tired NASA astronaut. This is not physics or rocket science.

813
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: This is football.

814
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: If you've watched Justin Fields, especially closely for three, four,

815
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: five years, or some of these other players, there's no

816
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: one coming out of their mock draft basement and hasn't

817
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: even laid eyes on the guy until he probably played

818
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: Clemson in the semi final telling you more than you.

819
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: Don't already know.

820
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: So somewhere along the way, the mock community had their

821
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: voices elevated way too high, and some of you started

822
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: valuing the opinion of someone who is laid eyes on

823
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: these players a fraction at the time, you have more

824
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 2: than your own opinion. And yet here's what happens when

825
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: the mock community forms an opinion that flies in the

826
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: face of a general consensus that the college football community shares.

827
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: They're bat in like one point fifty. They're so far

828
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: below the Mendoza line that'd be sent to single A,

829
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: not even triple A or double A. Here's what I

830
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: encourage you to do. Keep the receipts. If you own

831
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: one of these, it has a screenshot feature. If you

832
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: own Oh, Mike's fallen, If you own one of these,

833
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: it has a screenshot fear. Just keep the receipts because

834
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: here's what's going to happen. The draft is gonna happen,

835
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: and then twenty twenty one, in twenty two and twenty

836
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 2: three and twenty four is gonna happen, and you're gonna

837
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: have those receipts, and Justin Field is going to make

838
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: a fool out of a lot of people. Don't let

839
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: Justin Fields make a fool out of you because you

840
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: doubted him.

841
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: If he proves you wrong, make it be because you

842
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: believed in him. Because if you want the odds.

843
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: On your side, you definitely want to be in the

844
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: latter camp instead of the former camp.

845
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: Justin Fields is about to make idiots of a lot

846
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: of people.

847
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: The problem is they'll have a microphone in front of

848
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: their phase getting paid to do the exact same thing

849
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: this time next year. So hey, it is what it is.

850
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: As we like to say, thank you so much for

851
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: watching quick programming. Note, we will not be here on Easter.

852
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 2: That is our trademark holiday.

853
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: That is our tent pole holiday, the most important one

854
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: of the year that we celebrate here on Lake Kick,

855
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: So we will not have a Sunday show. We're gonna

856
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: make up for it though.

857
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a Tuesday show and then as far

858
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: as I know Colin, I think we're gonna.

859
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 1: Be back on schedule. So normalcy is coming. Don't worry.

860
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: Normalcy is coming at Lake Kick.

861
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 2: Josh on Instagram probably about to puts more stuff up

862
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 2: on there tonight because I got like tons of videos

863
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: that I just want to unload, but I'm gonna I'm

864
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: gonna morphemes rip.

865
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: Them on there for obvious reasons.

866
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: So for director Emeritus Collins, Jesse and Company up in Connecticut.

867
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pate.

868
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: Have a great start to your weekend. Enjoy your Easter

869
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: weekend and God bless