1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: It is Sunday, it is day four, as we bring 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: you some content here on move the sticks right, Lewis 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 3: Back with you. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Offensive linemen are getting ready to roll. But we are 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: looking back at day three. Top performers, running backs, quarterbacks, wideouts. 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: It was a fast, fast Saturday at Lucas Oil Stadium. 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: My friend, it started with the running backs. Let's go 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: top dog, right, Jeremiah Love over two hundred pounds, over 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: six foot yeah, four three six in the forty, Bucky. 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: Rich. So here's the thing. So as evaluating, you look 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: at the tape and you check off all these boxes, right, 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 1: you see him like, oh man, the production is there. 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: You look at the skill set. Man, he could jump cut, 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: he has balance, he has by the control, he can 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: take in the distance. The burst is there. YadA, YadA, YadA. 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Now you come and be like, okay, well what kind 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: of athlete are we talking about? And Reddy, he's suppose 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: you talked about four to three six and the forty. 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: You watch him go through the drills, the movement. I 22 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: think he might have the best jump cut that I've 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: seen since ltam La Danian Thompson. When you watch him 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: in the drill, Raddy jumps from one side of the field, 25 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: it seemed like all the way to the other. Hash 26 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: and it's so easy for him. To me, he is 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: one of the easiest prospects that you can scout because 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: everything that you look for physically, he checks off all 29 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: the boxes. To me, Man, we're talking about a top 30 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: five pick, and I'm saying this, I think he's the 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: best prospect in the class. I think confidently if you're 32 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: a team that is looking at a running back and saying, man, 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: this is a game changer, you could talk yourself in 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: and take him and within one the first four five picks. 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: Look, I talked to you about this on our show today. 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: The last Notre Dame running back to go in the 37 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: top ten. The boss Jerome Bettis Now, he didn't run 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: for three sex. 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no. 40 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: No. 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: Big Bussy was running that boll he was. It speaks 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: to what you're talking about a franchise guy. I know 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: people talk about Jon Robinson in those things, but when 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: he's been given to rock and he's had protection or 45 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: blocking up front, he has been as specially as they come, 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: there's no reason why Jeremiah Love can't do those same things. 47 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Saquon, Jeon Robinson, Christian McCaffrey, Ashton, gent Leonard Finette, 48 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: guys that go have gone in the top ten, like 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love fits that build now four to three six 50 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: was fast, but it was not the fastest forty yard 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: dashtime from the running back group. That distinction belonged to 52 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: an Arkansas razorback, Mike Washington. Now four three three at 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: over two and ten pounds. That is I mean this 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: is six foot one, two hundred and ten like that. Again, 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: that's incredible. Yeah, the forties just keep getting faster. This 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: is the fastest running back group that we've ever seen 57 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: since we've been tracking it at the combine. 58 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: But going back to Washington, so I'll give you the 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: other numbers here. One five to one was the forty 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: yard was the ten yard split. That's again incredible, and 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: that's you know, compensate compenser when you're talking about what 63 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: the ultimate forty yard dash was. He didn't end up 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: doing in any of the Uh. He did he did 65 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: the jump to ten foot eight in the broad and 66 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: then the vert was for the vert was thirty nine. 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: So there's correlation right with high jumpson fast. 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Time truly like he's big fast. We talked about physical Uh, 69 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: you just don't see big men like that. Now you 70 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: got a chance to see him, and the buzz started 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: building a bow what he did at the Senior Bowl, 72 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: at the practices, and so as we talked about the 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: arc as we're going into the draft, you always want 74 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: to be ascending on that path. And so you look 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: at what he did during the regular season the Senior Bowl. 76 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: He crushes it, heals the combine four three, three thirty nine. 77 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: It's vertical. The explosiveness is there. Now you begin to 78 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: build a case. Are we to talk about Mike Washington 79 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: coming off the board on day two, second or third round. 80 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: Somewhere in that conversation, his name has to come up. 81 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: And it was already a pretty impressive group, a pretty 82 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: solid group of athletes that are playing running back. But man, 83 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: they're not many guys that could put up with his resume. 84 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: When we're talking about athletically and the way that he. 85 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: Rocked down in mobile, Yeah, I'm with you on that 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: as well as he didn't do any of the field drills, 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: but you saw the practical application of his speed and athleticism, 88 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: as you mentioned during the practice week in Mobile. 89 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: Okay, let's get into some of the other running backs. 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: I knew you were a fan of what Seth McGowan 91 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: was able to show here. And look, he's another guy 92 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: who actually showed up in. 93 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: A big way. 94 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 2: Was practice player of the week for his group down 95 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl as well. 96 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: So what we're talking about the last two guys that 97 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about first, Washington and McGowan six foot two 98 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three pounds big. At a time where 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to find big running backs, these guys not 100 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: only a big but they have these athletic attributes that 101 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: you love. Four four nine forty two and a half 102 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: inch vertical, ten eleven broad jump. Now you go through 103 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: it and you say the gaal only had thirteen runs 104 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: of ten plus yards during his time, Why did he 105 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: have more explosive runs? That'd be where the digging has 106 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: to be when you look at his film, because athletically 107 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: he should be able to deliver more than he's done. 108 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: But he's certainly on the radar scouts looking for a 109 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: big back. They can be a banger. 110 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, and I think you know, I'll just give 111 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: you a brief history because teams are obviously going to 112 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: dig into a player like that. He was a freshman 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: at Oklahoma in April of twenty twenty one, did some 114 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 2: of this kind of look back as we were getting 115 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 2: ready for him at the Senior Bowl, and look, he 116 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: made a bad decision. 117 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: He and two of his Sooner. 118 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: Teammates stole some jewelry and high dollar shoes in cash 119 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: from a Norman, Oklahoma apartment. One of the other players 120 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: was armed with a gun during the incident. There were 121 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: some issues there. Players were initially charged with robbery conspiracy 122 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 2: to commit robbery. 123 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: They were convicted. 124 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 2: They could have if they had they been convicted, they 125 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: could have spent decades in prison. Said they pled guilty 126 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: to larceny. McGowan actually spent three months in jail before 127 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: his plea. He then kind of went on this journey. 128 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: He was dismissed from the Sooners, went on this journey 129 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: through an Naia, Texas College, where he was there for 130 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: a little while. He went, you know, didn't really play 131 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: twenty three, spent at Juco. He was desperate for another opportunity. 132 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: He was scrolling Twitter direct messages like back from when 133 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: he was in high school from coaches that were trying 134 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 2: to recruit him. Ended up finding a guy who he 135 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: had a connection with was a defensive offensive coordinator, Jeff Nixon, 136 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: from when Nixon was a position coach at Baylor, and 137 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: he had. 138 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: Offered him a scholarship. 139 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: They didn't have a spot for him at Syracuse where 140 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: Nixon ended up at the time, but he had worked 141 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: for the Carolina Panthers with David Cobb. 142 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: I mean, like they just kind of he. 143 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: Went through all these connections, ended up in New Mexico 144 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: State finally gave McGowan the opportunity that he had been 145 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: searching for, did well there, raided the transfer portal, and 146 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: then ended up at Kentucky where he finished and had 147 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: a nice year, and then now trying to you know, 148 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: kind of continue to atone for those things. 149 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: But he he has done that. 150 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: He now wants to be and has tried to be 151 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: like a beacon for guys that are struggling with mental health, 152 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: with and with issues that can you know, cause you 153 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: some problems off the field. So he's trying to turn 154 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: a bad decision that he made into something that can 155 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: help guys in the future, which I thought was was 156 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: really cool. Let's move to the quarterbacks in the wide out. 157 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: So those were the next two groups that were on 158 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: the field. Well, we got to start with Tayling Green 159 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: absolutely four three six six six, two hundred and forty 160 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: pounds four three six jumps eleven foot two in the 161 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: broad combine record, Bucky, no quarterback has ever jumped eleven 162 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: feet period. He goes eleven to two five inches further 163 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: than the previous combine record, which was shared by another 164 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: former Arkansas quarterback. 165 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: Who actually made the switch to wide receiver in the NFL, 166 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: in Matt Jones. And then he out jumps. 167 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson in the verty who had the record by 168 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 2: three inches forty three and a half in the eleven 169 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: foot two in the broad. 170 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: I'm just like, where holy smokes. 171 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an unbelievable athlete. You put it on display. 172 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: You just don't see guys with this kind of length, 173 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: this kind of explosiveness at quarterback four seven forty three 174 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: and a half vertical that eleven two broad. I mean, 175 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: you just talked about a dynamic athlete, most exposive quarterback 176 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: workout that we've ever seen. But he's a developmental prospect. Now, 177 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: what that does is it forces you to go back 178 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: into the media room and have these hard discussions. Okay, 179 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: when do we take him, what do we do with 180 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: him he gets here? What is the building plan for 181 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: him to develop? And what can we envision him being 182 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: down the road. All those things have to be in play. Also, 183 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: you have to approach him potentially about is there a 184 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: slash role in his future? Would he be willing to 185 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: do that? Because we've seen these athletes and I think 186 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: naturally about Torel Pride and I think about to Ohio 187 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: State and how he was resistant to it for a while, 188 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: but then when he finally accepted it, Oh, by the way, 189 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: he becomes a Pro Bowl caliber receiver and puts up 190 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: a thousand yard season and does some of those things 191 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: with those athletic traits. Is Green willing to take that 192 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: path if if it's presented. 193 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: To him right, We'll see how that all that works out. 194 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: He has made it clear that he is the quarterback 195 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: and certainly understand that. Now the thing is like, are 196 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: you delaying the inevitable by starting there? Or are you 197 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: saying like, look, let's see what he's got, Let's let 198 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 2: him play himself. Out of the quarterback spot and into 199 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: something else. But are you missing out on valuable development 200 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 2: years at the next position. 201 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: You know, like there's a dance. 202 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: There, there is a dance, and look, he's always been 203 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback, so you let him have to fully exhaust that. Yeah, 204 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: but you have to take him with an eye towards 205 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: what he could be and being able to convince him. 206 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Joe Webb. I think about Joe Webb from the Minnesota 207 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: Vikings the Carolina Panthers, who also had to do some 208 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: of those things. There's a saying in the league, the 209 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: more you can do, someone has to convey it to him. Swee. 210 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: At least is willing to hear it, so he's not 211 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: so resistant to it because it would open up some options. 212 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: Terrell Pryor twenty sixteen, last year with the Cleveland Browns. 213 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: He's twenty seven years old at the time. Came into 214 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: the league at twenty three and twenty twelve with the Raiders. 215 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: So twenty seven twenty sixteen, he goes seventy seven catches 216 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: for over one thousand yards. You wonder like, if you 217 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: had made the switch earlier, what would have happened? 218 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Right? So what could have been one of the best 219 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: athletes that we've seen. 220 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: Certainly something to think about. 221 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: All right, quarterbacks that are going to be some of 222 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: the next quarterbacks off the board. After Fernando Mendoza, we're 223 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: out here, Ty Simpson, Garrett uls Meyer, Drew Aller, Carson Beck. 224 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 3: How do you sorar through that. 225 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: Group right now? I think they all had their moments. 226 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: I think right now depecking order would probably suggest that 227 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: Ty Simpson is next, and then as the beauty, he's 228 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: in the eye of the beholder after that, and tya 229 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: sim who didn't do any of the athletics stuff but 230 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: elected to throw. You see a guy who's very clean mechanically. 231 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: You can see that he can spend it. He can 232 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: do those things. And the comparisons are Rock Purdy and 233 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and those things. But the limited experience, and 234 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: we're only fifteen stars, it's hard to say a in 235 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six he's gonna be your franchise quarterback. What 236 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: you hope situation where you have a veteran quarterback in place, 237 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: you can develop him on the side. Maybe in twenty seven, 238 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight he can get them the field and 239 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: do those things is unlikely given the fast trajectory that 240 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: people have in the league. But I think that is 241 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: what would be best for TDS Simpson. But he is 242 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: certainly after Mendoza to me, he's next in line to 243 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: come off the board. 244 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels the same for me there. I got 245 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: him as my number two quarterback as well. I think 246 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: the debate really becomes it who's the third at this point, 247 00:11:52,880 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 2: and I think it's again nuss Meyer, Beck Aller and 248 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: out of those. 249 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: Guys, I thought now Smyer had some flashes. 250 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 2: Like showed you like, Okay, he's healthy again, and that's 251 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: why he put up over four thousand passing yards in 252 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and really struggled in twenty five. 253 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: He was hurt on the second day of training. 254 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: Kit I he didn't even play a full single game 255 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: healthy for LSU last year and everything crumbled around him. 256 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 3: Same can be said for Drew Aller. 257 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: Things really exploded around him and unraveled for Penn State 258 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: this year. I thought he showed moments of allure for 259 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: alert right with his big body type his big arm, 260 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: like he can move that thing. Now again, it's just 261 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: how do you navigate the peaks in the valleys with that. 262 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: Group really really difficult. Yeah, So for all of those guys, 263 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: you're trying to weigh who has the most upside, who 264 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: has a realistic possibility of being a quarterback that can 265 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: come in and maybe do some Taler set stuff. But 266 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a roll the dice because his system 267 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: is fit is coaching. There's so many different things that 268 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: go into it. But it's gonna be fascinating discussion as 269 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: the path to the draft. Who is QB three? That 270 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: is going to be one of the discussions that we'll 271 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: have to have over and over again as teams are 272 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: weighing who's QB three versus the veteran quarterback market and 273 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: who ka shake loose? 274 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah again, I thought Luke Aldmeyer is up there after. 275 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: You know, he and Cole Peyton both were the guys 276 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 2: who ran of note outside of Taylor Green in the 277 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: forty yard dash. 278 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: Peyton runs four or five. 279 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: He's got a rocket ship of a left arm out 280 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: of North Dakota State again only one year starting, you know, 281 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: as he kind of waited his time. Bine cam Miller 282 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 2: and then Altmeyer is a veteran. A ton of experience 283 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 2: is going to be a value add in any quarterback room. 284 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: So those guys will be interesting to watch as well. 285 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: For the wideouts, obviously, you want to talk about fast, 286 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna talk about Missippi State's Brendan Thompson. 287 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. 288 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: Look, when you run ten one and one hundred in 289 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 3: high school, you already know. And he is the combine 290 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: speed king at. 291 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: Four point two toy six official, which is equivalent in 292 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: a Madden NFL Speed Projection ninety seven speed. Now, practical 293 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: application of that speed, Bucky. He's the guy who led 294 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: the SEC in forty plus yard catches, fifty plus yard catches, 295 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: thirty plus yard catches. 296 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: So like we've seen it translate to the field as well. 297 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it translates to the field really well. And let's 298 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: put him in a role that allows him to do 299 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: what he does well. There's always a place in a 300 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver, on a wide receiver corps for someone that 301 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: is the designated vertical stretch guy. And if you can 302 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: do other things, return gadget guy whatever, he'll find his 303 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: way onto a roster. But that speed is real. You 304 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: could feel it when he was running. Yeah, another receiver too, 305 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: that so Zach Branch is a guy that helped himself, 306 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: just in terms of confirming in time, you saw him 307 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: as a slot receiver doing the underneath stuff, a bunch 308 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: of bubbles and screens on this film, but running four 309 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: to three now you're hopeful that he can do more 310 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: at the next level. Chris Razzle from Tennessee another guy 311 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: that confirmed the vertical stretchability. Comparisons have been made to 312 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: Christian Watson, who's flashed at the Green Bay Packers. When 313 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: you put four three seven on your card and you're 314 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: tall and athletic like that, that helps your guy. Omar 315 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Cooper I think helped himself the four to four. He's 316 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: the first rounder now, oh wow, like the four fore 317 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: Now when I'm talking to people full four, people like him. 318 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: People like him because he's a pro. You go to 319 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: the route, run ability, the speed, everything. He just continues 320 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: the checks box along the way. I will say people 321 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: will find him comfortable. He's the safest maybe of all 322 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: those wide receivers, which will help him get drafted. 323 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: In the first round. The physical yack artist is Omar Cooper. 324 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: I'll keep the Who's Your Love going with Elijah Surat 325 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: who did not run, did not test, but did run 326 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: routes and did compete in the field drills, and that's 327 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: where he excels. I don't know what his measurables are 328 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: gonna be, but I'm telling you right now that this 329 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 2: dude knows how to get it in and out of breaks. 330 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: He's explosive at the break point and you can't simulate 331 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: a back shoulder over here, but he is a warrior at. 332 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: The catch point. I thought he was excellent running routes. 333 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: And I thought the two USC receivers, Jacoby Lane and 334 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: Makayle Lemon, this might have been the best piece of 335 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: the Jacoby Lane draft process so far. 336 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, this this is really good for Lane because 337 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: he hadn't shown. 338 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: Up you talked about didn't see him as much in 339 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 3: the senior did. 340 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: So much and didn't even watch it. Be like, man, okay, 341 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: what can he be? Yeah, we showed up. He caught 342 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: the ball really well, ran row. Same thing for Kenby 343 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: said for mcaulm. 344 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, mckaye Lemmon is just a smooth operator. Again, I'll 345 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: see it. We'll see at USC's pro day what they 346 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: end up testing. But man, that those guys were really good. 347 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 2: There were some Skylar bell as worthy of mention as well. 348 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: Fast jump, far. 349 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: Dian Burks Oklahoma and receiver four three to zero forty 350 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: in vertical ten to one broad jump slot receiver with 351 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: burse Yes, yeah, he's he's intriguing. Yeah. 352 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: And then we had another four to two with the 353 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: receiver from lsu Xavi and Thomas there it is zav 354 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: In Thomas. And then I would also say, uh, they've 355 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: got barry On Brown. Uh, they've got Aaron, Aaron Anderson 356 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: and Chris l Like they have four receivers ls. 357 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: You did here so. 358 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: Soon were that would be the question? 359 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: Where was it because quarterback was hurt? 360 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: Because the team unravel Yeah, there's there's a lot of 361 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: that going around here. So a lot of guys on 362 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: the redemption tour and this is always a big spot. 363 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: I think some fun names to watch today at the 364 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: Combine if you're listening to this on Sunday of Combine weekend, Jennings, Dunker, Olive, 365 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: Ivna Yowani. 366 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: Uh. 367 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: You know a bunch of tackles. 368 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 2: You got a pair from from Utah, low Mo and 369 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: Fano which which will be big and then we'll see 370 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: what the big tackles from Miami do. 371 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: Maw We Noah and Uh and Mark Markel Bell. 372 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it should be fun to watch. Everyone's looking for 373 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 1: the big Everyone's excited about this class. Up front scot 374 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: last died a combine. 375 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: Can't wait see what have all right. 376 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 2: We'll check back with you guys next week with a 377 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: full combine recap when DJ rejoins the show. 378 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: This is move the sticks from the combine. 379 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: Want to want to