1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Katty Armstrong and Jettie 3 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: and he. 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: Armrong Why from studio see see signor dimly lit room? 5 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: You put them the bowels of the Armstrong in Eddy 6 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 3: Communications Compound And hey, y'all. 7 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: Today we're uh operating under the title of the show. 8 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: It's a Super Bowl Olympic party or please stop kidnapping 9 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 4: old ladies. 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 11 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you follow the news, y'all probably saw 12 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: at least a portion of that video that Savannah Guthrie 13 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 3: and her brother and sister put out. It's four minutes long. 14 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: It's pretty long. We'll play a little portion of that 15 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 3: later in the show. But all indications from that are, 16 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: like you speculated, the family hasn't received the hostage or 17 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 3: the ransom note, just TMZ and news outlets, So that's 18 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: got fake written all over it. 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 4: One of the news outlets was quite specific in saying 20 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: there was a dollar figure, there was a bitcoin address, etc. 21 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 4: But then one analyst I heard talking said everything the 22 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: family said indicated that there were no specific negotiations underway 23 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 4: yet well. 24 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: Directly with the somebody holding the mom. You know, I'm 25 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: sure there were specifics in the fake letters, some freaking 26 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: troll jobs sent to TMZ, but that doesn't mean the 27 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: family's in any actual negotiations. Former FBI director and crook 28 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: Andrew McCabe, I think that's worth throwing in. He probably 29 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 3: worth pausing to mention there is no human so discredited 30 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: as a liar and a cheat and a bum that 31 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: they can't lend an analyst job on CNN. No gidding, 32 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: that's where Andrew McCabe does the thing, anywady. Anyway, he 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: was talking about that very thing. He said, when you 34 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: hear what you're here is the family saying, you know, 35 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: reach out to us, means they're not in negotiations with 36 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: a with a kidnapper. But I thought this was interesting 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: to the trolls and everything he said, it is not 38 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: uncommon in these situations to get lots of false leads, scammers, 39 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: people taking advantage of a horrible situation, and that something. Yeah, 40 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: that there are people whose impulse is when something like 41 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 3: this happens, I'm going to call the police and make 42 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: something up. What it think I can get them to 43 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: send me some money. 44 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't even think it's that I think it's just that. 45 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 4: It's also it's a different scumbacker. That's why I don't 46 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: like humans. I just not a fan at all. You know, 47 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 4: I've never understood trolls. We've known a couple. 48 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: It's such a weird, sad, strange, deranged impulse. 49 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: I think you do understand it. But where does it 50 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: come from? What makes you that way? Uh? Poor upbringing? 51 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: Where you could You're gonna call the cops and give 52 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: him a false lead and then he get off the 53 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: phone and now your day is better. 54 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: Somehow, Nobody. 55 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: Only people who are too stupid and sad and lazy 56 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: to build things break things for their satisfaction. And this 57 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: is a form of breaking something. Whether you put somebody 58 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: in a bad mood, or you force them to react 59 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: to you, or you affect the police investigation, even in 60 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 4: a little you feel like you have an effect on 61 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 4: the world. Man, that is twisted. 62 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: I wonder what percentage of people are that, But I 63 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: was surprised to hear that. That's give them away from me, 64 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: whatever percentage it is. 65 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no kidding. It's always been the case. 66 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: In cording to former FBI director, you get a big 67 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: story like this and all kinds of creep o's come 68 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: out of the woodwork with their fake this and that, 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: And so we played a little clip of Ashley Banfield. 70 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: If you're old enough, you remember she was a cable 71 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: news star for a cup of coffee back and then 72 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: early two thousands nineties. 73 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was. 74 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: But she's the only person I've heard say anything about this, 75 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: that the brother is a suspect. 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: And I don't believe that for a second. 77 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: I don't either, But what a horrible thing to put 78 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: out into the bloodstream of the story. I shouldn't say bloodstream, 79 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 3: the the news stream of the story, and then have 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: other people reporting on it. How about that poor brother, 81 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 3: her son, Your mom's missing, and now you got some 82 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: cable news hosts claiming you're a suspect. Oh, you gotta 83 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: be free, and then other people discussing it. Oh my god, yes, 84 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: Katie rolled your eyes. 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 5: Oh no. 86 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 6: The thing I've been thinking about as the day and 87 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 6: age we're in with AI and you know they're asking 88 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 6: for proof of life. Anybody can make anything, now. 89 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you got a video, you'd have to run 90 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: it through some sort of expert AI software to see 91 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: if it. 92 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, way I could produce a realistic looking video 93 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: of the poor old gal right now. 94 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: Well, she's everybody else. 95 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: She's been on TV a ton, so there's lots of 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: video and audio out there of her. Yeah, but the 97 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: whole speculating that her own son may have abducted and 98 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: killed her, just kind of for sport, for on your TV, 99 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 3: on your show, just seems really. 100 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: Outlined to me. Evil. 101 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: It's evil, and you know, we've covered enough of these. 102 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: The cops don't go around naming suspects and releasing it 103 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: like that. 104 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: That's not usually the way it worked. 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: Usually find out somebody's a suspect once they're arrested. 106 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, so that's just that's the out line. 107 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's zero chance anybody in the police department or 108 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: the FBI's reaching out to Ashley Banfield and say, hey, 109 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 4: we're really looking. 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: At the brother and not other news organizations, by the way, 111 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: So not not NBC, not the Wall Street Journal, not 112 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 3: any of the other people that are governing the story, 113 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: because everybody is Ashley Banfield. 114 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's evil and evilly. 115 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that takes a that's a certain sort of person, 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: an evil one imagine a being and that's the sun 117 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: that is sitting on the couch next to Savannah Guthrie 118 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: in that four minute video they released yesterday, Ashley Banfield's 119 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: going around to say, yeah, I've got a little information 120 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: that he did killed his own arm. 121 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: So most I was I was partly just you know, 122 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: kidding around with you as always. But the under use 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 4: of the term evil in the modern world I think 124 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: is significant. That used to be a concept that was 125 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: generally understood. There are people who are malevolent. 126 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: They are. 127 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 4: They have checked out of any deserved, deserving human company 128 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 4: or compassion. They're they're evil. And she sounds like one 129 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: of those people to me, desperate. 130 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: As evil. 131 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: There's the person who abducted an old woman in perhaps 132 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: Guilder for who knows what freaking reason. I wonder how 133 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: this is going to end. I have a guess, but 134 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: I hate to say it out loud. You know, I 135 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: think we all know, we all. 136 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Know the end. 137 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I suspect that the uh delusional moron involved 138 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: is now responsible for the death of an old gal. 139 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: Probably he will wash up like all would be criminal 140 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 4: geniuses do because they're stupid. 141 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's definitely become one of those rare shared 142 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: experiences we got going on in America right now, because 143 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: every news outlet is like leading with this story now, 144 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: like everybody, which is kind of interesting. It's you know, also, 145 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: Savannah Guthrie is just such an incredibly likable presence and 146 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: that's been on the scene for so long. 147 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: And you know that that that is a hook. Yeah. Wow. 148 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: Also I heard another one of this morning. I don't 149 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 3: remember what channel I was watching. Let's go to James Winston, 150 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: twenty year homicide detective retired from Chicago. James, Yeah, it's 151 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: an amateur hour down there. I've never seen such a 152 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: bungled investigation. First of all, that you know, that sort 153 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: of thing which I just avoice. I'm annoyed by. It's 154 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 3: so easy to do that. I could do it without 155 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: ever having been a cop. 156 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 4: We know cable news personalities who go to the studio 157 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 4: and they're told which side of the issue they should 158 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: be on, and they bring it like only an idiot 159 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: would disagree with this opinion that I was just told 160 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 4: five minutes ago I should adopt. And I can absolutely 161 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: believe that in old retired cops, you know, or they 162 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 4: go around looking for somebody who wants to blast the 163 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: police investigation that just don't. 164 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: You feel like you could do that without har I 165 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 3: think I could do the present me to be a 166 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: body language expert, or go me to be a retired 167 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: homicide detective. 168 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: Do you want me? 169 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: What's wrong with this restaurant forensics person? What would you 170 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: like me to be? 171 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? 172 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 4: Pro leaf blower, anti leaf blower whatever. 173 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: Nancy Mace was back on Fox and Friends this morning, 174 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: looking exactly like she looked when we did shows with 175 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: her back during Scott Peterson, which was twenty five years ago. 176 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: She hasn't changed a. 177 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: Bit, saying the of being a vampire, saying the same things, 178 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: looking exactly the same, right, you. 179 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: Know, very critical. 180 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: Ever, everyone involved really screwed up, all right? 181 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 4: Wow, hey Fox, the bottom of the barrel's got to 182 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: be down here somewhere. 183 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: We're getting close. 184 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: Huh whim and a was she laying on top of 185 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: heraldo or what order do you go in there? 186 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: Let's start to show officially. 187 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 3: I'm Jack Armstrong, he's Joe Getty on this it is Thursday, 188 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: well Friday, February fifty or twenty twenty six, Armstrong and Getty, 189 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 3: and we approve of this program. 190 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: Okay, enough for the preliminarias. Let's begin to show officially 191 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 4: now according to FCC rules and regulations. 192 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: On a lighter note, at mark, a dancing robot is 193 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: stealing the show. 194 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 7: In Milan, it welcomed visitors to China's Hospitality House, which opened. 195 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: To the public on Wednesday. 196 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 7: The robot showed off its hip hop dance moves and 197 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 7: its Tai Chiese skills. It was also seen interacting with 198 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 7: visitors and even shaking their hands. 199 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 4: And then was seen ripping the throats out of Filipino 200 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 4: Navy sailors. 201 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Chinese robots. They're playing the pregame Run for 202 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: Your Lives. Yeah, no kidding. 203 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: So the negotiations do they start today or tomorrow? And 204 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: oh mom, with the whole Iranian thing, hard to say 205 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: where that exactly is going. And then you've also got 206 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: the negotiations in day three about Russia in Ukraine and 207 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: they agreed to some sort of prisoner swap, which is 208 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 3: some people are seeing as a good sign. 209 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: I still would be shocked if anything comes out of this. 210 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: They held a computer aided top notch war game in 211 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: Europe the other day about what would happen if vlad 212 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 4: Putin invaded some of the Baltic states, for instance, and 213 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: didn't go well for NATO, not well at all. Really, 214 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 4: I want to hear about that. Oh lord, I'm looking 215 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 4: up at the TV headline. Hundreds of pizza huts to close. 216 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: It's the end of an era, the era in which 217 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: there were lots of pizza huts. 218 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: There's a pizza that over the years has gone from 219 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: a pretty darn good to uh. 220 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to. 221 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: Get sued, but now they got lawyers. Zahut back in 222 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 4: the day, man, I love I. 223 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: Loved it. 224 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: The sauce terrific. But I don't know if you had 225 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: it lately. Michael, you're shaking your head. 226 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: It's not I may be agreeing with him. 227 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 3: Not the same pizza, all right, fair enough, And that's 228 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 3: that's the true pizza wide with all your big chains. 229 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: For whatever reason, they all decided, I guess, to keep 230 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: prices low, just lower the ingredients to be able to. 231 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: Keep the prices the same. 232 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we've gone from like the best of sausage 233 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: to Helen and the cheese, god knows what it really is. 234 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 8: The cheese. 235 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: You got to use your finger quotes on all this stuff, 236 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: like cheese on that and some pineapple. Also, I guess 237 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: a little pepperoni. I assume the sauce is made with 238 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: tomato something red. We got Katie's headlines on the way 239 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: and we'll get into some of the news. 240 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: Stay here. 241 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: So Kamala Harris put out a teaser tweet yesterday and 242 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: everybody was wondering what it's about and hasn't landed yet. 243 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: Have you heard about this? If she was. 244 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: Coming to my house, I'd only be mildly interested in 245 00:12:59,360 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 4: what she was. 246 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: It's easy, okay. She did release it a few minutes ago, 247 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: because yesterday. 248 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: She put out on her campaign Twitter feed, which hadn't 249 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: had a tweet since the day after the election, of 250 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: thanks for your support, it said tomorrow. And now she 251 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: just put out something. So I'll check it out during 252 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: the commercials. 253 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 4: All right, let's figure out who's reporting what it's lead 254 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 4: story with Katie Green. 255 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: Katie take it away. 256 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 6: Oh. The disappearance of Nancy Guthrie is at the top 257 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 6: of the headlines ABC search for missing mother of Today's 258 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 6: Show host Savannah Guthrie enters it's fifth day. CNN Savannah 259 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 6: Guthrie pleads for proof that her mother is alive, and 260 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 6: NBC investigators returned to Guthrie's home and renewed search after 261 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 6: news of Pacemaker disconnecting. 262 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 263 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: Ugh, ugly story and almost certainly to have an ugly ending. 264 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 8: Now from the Washington Post, borders are. 265 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 6: Tom Holman says, seven hundred ICE and CBP officers are 266 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 6: leaving Minneapolis. 267 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: That is a decent little chunk of the huge number 268 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: that was there. It's still many, many, many multiples of 269 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 4: what were there before the big serge. So there's still 270 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: a lot of federal cops on the scene. We'll have 271 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: to talk about this more later though. What happened there? 272 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: Did they go too big going into Minneapolis and lost 273 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: control or that was Was that a goal in the beginning? 274 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: Probably not, I don't know. 275 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: I have to ask Stephen. 276 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 8: Miller from Axios. 277 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 6: US and Russia agree to observe New Stark Nuclear Pact 278 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 6: after expiration. All right, This one from the Wall Street Journal. 279 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 6: The harsh reality is setting in America and China are 280 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 6: heading for a divorce and it's going to be messy. 281 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, as an interesting article. We'll talk more about that later. 282 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: The h what do they call it, the way we've 283 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: been forever coupled or the uncoupling of China in the 284 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: United States, and then all the countries that have to 285 00:14:59,040 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: pick a side. 286 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 8: Orbit from The New. 287 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 6: York Times quote it's collective punishment. Iran Exzach's heavy price 288 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 6: on protest supporters. 289 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. 290 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 8: From CNBC. 291 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 6: Washington Post begins widespread layoffs sharply shrinking the newspapers reach. 292 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: One third in all departments got laid off yesterday At 293 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: The Washington Post. Ian Bremmer among people as checking out 294 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: their Twitter feed yesterday, just horrified at Bezos abandoning strong 295 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: independent journalism, Like it's his his job to spend his 296 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: own money to make a you know, somehow make that 297 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: newspaper profitable when it might have when it might be 298 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: impossible all the way around. 299 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: You know what saved The New York Times often gets 300 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: left out of this the reason it's profitable word without wordal. 301 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: It'd be in the same situation as a lot of 302 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: other newspapers. 303 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 8: Oof from The New York Post. 304 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 6: China maxing is TikTok's latest senseless trend, as young people 305 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 6: romanticize living in a communist society. 306 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I never know how true these things are. I 307 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: saw some of the pictures of people dressed like Chairman 308 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: MAO or something whatever. 309 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,239 Speaker 4: Send them there, Send them, put them in the goulogs 310 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 4: eating nails. The latest TikTok craze. 311 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: All right, shout. 312 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 6: Out study fines. Could space terrorism make you infertile? Scientists 313 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 6: say it's time to start asking questions. 314 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: That's something to be concerned about when people have stopped wanting. 315 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: To have babies. 316 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: I don't know, well, I got all sorts of questions 317 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: about space travel. 318 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: That's not the first one that leads to mind. 319 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 6: And finally, the Babylon Bee quote the Engines are coming, 320 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 6: cries Billy Eilish loading a musket to defend her home 321 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,239 Speaker 6: from a tribe of redskins. 322 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 4: Boy, the backlash against that idiocy has been truly enjoyable. 323 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has lifted my spirits. 324 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: I like that the tribe came out and said when 325 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: any white person makes a land acknowledgment, they need to 326 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: mention the tribe or they're racist or something like that. So, 327 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: you know, I love the woke eating the woke. That's 328 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: one of my favorite things that ever happens. We've got 329 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 3: details on a whole bunch of the stories coming up. 330 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty. 331 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 9: Statistically, when people Nancy Guthrie's age are kidnapped. It is 332 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 9: for financial gain. Somebody is the perpetrator, is doing it 333 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 9: for that reason. 334 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: Well, what's the data set there of kidnappings of the elderly? 335 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 4: That was that former FBI agent there, Candice DeLong I 336 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: gotta believe it's pretty tiny. And then that's then what's 337 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: the data set of people getting money and getting away 338 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 4: with it? 339 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: That's the number that should be published. 340 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: Look, nobody gets away with this ever, so oh, don't 341 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: do it. 342 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna spend the rest of your life in prison. 343 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 4: And it's evil, right, right, Kidnapping is an unspeakably evil crime. 344 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's horrible. That's why the penalties are 345 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: so severe, and they should be. 346 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did get a text. You said that the 347 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 3: suspect was Nancy Guthrie. Sont I haven't said they have 348 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: a suspect, only Ashley Banfield was, as far as. 349 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 4: I know, no, he said. Ashley Banfield was floating that 350 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 4: it's off. 351 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: With this person. It's actually her son in law. Well 352 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 3: maybe Ashley Banfield said it's the sun in law. Either way, 353 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: I don't believe that they're a suspect because I don't 354 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: think the cops would tell Ashley Banfield and nobody else. Yeah, 355 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: it's a disgusting thing to start speculating them out and 356 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 3: throwing around if you have no idea. 357 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 358 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: Although I credit our listener for having the fact straight 359 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: on the fact free story. 360 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 3: Yeah. Another, I had something pop into my head and 361 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 3: it just disappeared. Oh, son of what does that? I 362 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: got that thing Joe Biden had soility that's what it is. 363 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 364 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: Oh so if you can't think of the word sinility, 365 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: well yeah, that's bad. 366 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: So I don't mind playing a portion of this. 367 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: Long message that the Guthrie family put out to they're 368 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 3: directing it at whoever took their mom. Savannah gut three 369 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: was leading the way as a you know, professional reader 370 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: of things on screen. Savannah Guthrie of NBC News, her 371 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: and her brother and sister put out a video sitting 372 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: on a couch. It's four minutes long. Will play part 373 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 3: of it. I don't have any problem playing it because 374 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: they they put that out there because they're hoping it'll 375 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 3: help find their mom, even though it's. 376 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: Like really really heavy. 377 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: But uh, I hate the nine to one to one 378 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: call that came out the other day. I know I 379 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: understand why those things are available, but God, listening to 380 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 3: that sort of stuff for your entertainment or the news 381 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: putting it out there. 382 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Here's somebody when they realize their mom may be dead. 383 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: Let's listen in. 384 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: Oh my god. Yeah, I want to talk about that. 385 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 4: I don't want to distract, though, from from the topic 386 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 4: in hand. But that's a or don't let me forget Okay. 387 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: So this is uh, Savannah Guthrie and perhaps other family members. 388 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but certainly. Yeah, she's sitting on the couch. 389 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 3: You got her sister on one side and brother on 390 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: the other side. 391 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, just speaking I meant, but yeah, go ahead, Michael thirty. 392 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 5: Our mom is our heart and our home. She's eighty 393 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 5: four years old. Her health, her heart is fracial. She 394 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 5: lives in constant pain. She is without any medicine. She 395 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 5: needs it to survive, she needs it not to suffer. 396 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 5: We too, have heard the reports about a ransom letter 397 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 5: in the media. 398 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 8: We are ready to talk. 399 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 5: However, we live in a world where voices and images 400 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 5: are easily manipulated. We need to know without a doubt 401 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 5: that she's alive and that you have her. 402 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: And so they say at some point or well, just 403 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: the way they word that, uh suggest to most people 404 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: that they haven't seen any letter. So this creepo who 405 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: sent a letter to TMZ and other news outlets to 406 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: get attention. 407 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Is not real almost certainly. 408 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 4: Because on the other hand, if there has not been 409 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 4: any sort of specific ransom demand made to the family 410 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 4: or police, what the hell is going on here? 411 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: It's hard to say it's it's going to. 412 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: Be, well, I can, I can make a guess, but again, 413 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: it's grim and it's terrible. It's going to be you 414 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 4: want to utter the words. 415 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 416 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: In real life, these stories always they always have such sad, 417 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: disappointing what a waste endings some half crazy loser with 418 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 3: no good plan, you know, a ducts this girl or 419 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: boy or old lady or whatever. 420 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 4: It's just right exactly, the half wit loser decides to 421 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: go for the big score dot dot dot. 422 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: You can you know, fill in those blanks for yourself. 423 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder how long this stays in the public 424 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 3: eye with really and this was the only new development 425 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 3: yesterday they put out this video. But the developments are 426 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: going to come very very slowly, like starting today, unless 427 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: unless they come across the guys. 428 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: Somehow or all of a sudden, then it's over and sad. 429 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 4: So I remember, excuse me, you read that book about 430 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: the Gutenberg Press, As I recall, I bought it. I 431 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 4: haven't read it, but I get partial credit for owning it. 432 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 4: But one of the most interesting things you pointed out 433 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: was that when the printing press became well, the written 434 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: word became available in a widespread way, you could reproduce 435 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 4: it quickly and cheap. Right, what was the hot thing 436 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: what immediately took off? 437 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 3: They think it's really what propelled the witch hunts of 438 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: that lasted like one hundred years hunting, which is all 439 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: across Europe, which ended up happening in the United States 440 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: because for the first time ever, information could come out 441 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 3: in printed form, and people had only seen printed form 442 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 3: being an official book from usually from the church or 443 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 3: the king, and so you believed it. Well, now they 444 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: are seeing printed things, Well, this has got to be true. 445 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: So I forget the guy the name. There's an actual 446 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: person that wrote a specific pamphlet about witches, but everybody 447 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 3: believed it because they were used to believing what they read, 448 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: and so that was what was consumed. Yeah, and it 449 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: started the whole craze, and then the parallel being we 450 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: were used to believing the news until whenever fifteen twenty 451 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 3: years ago. Now there's crap all over the pace, but 452 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: lots of people still go on the internet, turn it 453 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 3: on their TV. 454 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 4: They see it on a screen. It's a video, it's 455 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: a guy on a video talking. It's got to be true, right. 456 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 4: So in an interesting parallel, I've been listening to a podcast. 457 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 4: There are no other podcasts forget I'm making this story 458 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: up completely. We have the only one, but about it 459 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: has to do with the eighteen eighties London, and they 460 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 4: make the point that England passed. I think it was 461 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 4: the eighteen sixty and eighteen seventy literacy rules, which were 462 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 4: miraculously effective and they achieved in England for the first 463 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: time in history, virsually one hundred percent literacy rate in 464 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 4: the country. 465 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: It was a wonderful success. 466 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 4: What was the immediate effect of that intense competition for 467 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 4: selling newspapers, broadsides, pad the tabloids, that sort of thing. 468 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 4: And the biggest hit was what they called and this 469 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: is such a great name, Penny Dreadfuls. 470 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: It was a single, great name. 471 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 4: Single pay it's a great band name, Oh my god, 472 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: we have oh the penny dreadful. 473 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: We have top hats. We got handled our mustaches. We 474 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: got long black coats. 475 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 4: The top hat I think they'd be keep falling off 476 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 4: when I you know, when I jammed, when I rocked 477 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 4: my head, we pang your head. We put Dickens paragraphs 478 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 4: to a hot beat. That's what we do. Wait a 479 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: minute for this is brilliant anyway, So it was what 480 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 4: immediately took off. What people, the masses of people wanted 481 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: to read was lurid crap, tales of gruesome crime and 482 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: sex and adventure and mysteries, and that some of it sounds, 483 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 4: you know, pretty compelling, But what the masses of people 484 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: wanted was crap. The Internet age has, I think, reminded 485 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 4: us that a lot of human beings we don't want 486 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 4: to be around. Not everybody's nice and smart and enlightened 487 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 4: and kind and understands the social compact or you know 488 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 4: it embraces. 489 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: Jude or Christian values or whatever. 490 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: There's a hell of a lot of human beings on 491 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 4: earth who are just either rotten or dumb or mean 492 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 4: or whatever. 493 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: You just have to accept it. 494 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: Rotten, dumb, and mean is the way to go through 495 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: life so and protect yourself. Yeah, like the sort of 496 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 3: person that would write a fake ransom note and send 497 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 3: it to TMZ. 498 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. 499 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so not enough people care about Well I got 500 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: this wrong. 501 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: Let me switch it around. 502 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: If you put out enough crap as a news organization, 503 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: eventually you lose a lot of your readers. That's what 504 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: happened to the Washington Post. They cut a third of 505 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 3: their newsroom yesterday. This is a pretty big deal because 506 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 3: for a long time, if you wanted to be an 507 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: educated person in America, you'd read the New York Times, 508 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post. That's been 509 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: that way for a very, very, very long time. You know, 510 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: they earned this by having crap coverage and a whole 511 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: bunch of different stories. But now the Washington Post they 512 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: cut out of a third of their workforce yesterday. Here 513 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: are sections that are just going away from one of 514 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: the most important newspapers in our nation's history. No more 515 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 3: sports section, completely eliminating it. Now kind of surprising. I mean, 516 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: I would read, you know, Washington Post. I think I 517 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: probably read their full coverage of the NCAA Championship game 518 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 3: the other night afterwards, you know, good reporter. 519 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. But there's so much sports out there 520 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: and you can get it everywhere. 521 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: You don't need a sports section, so right, anyway, they 522 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: completely eliminated that. That completely eliminated the book section. 523 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: I liked it. 524 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 3: I always read the reviews. You're not going to get 525 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: your book reviewed by the Washington Post anymore. They've eliminated 526 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 3: the book section completely. And you know, that's you know, the. 527 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 4: Washington metro area, which is their core business. I realized 528 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 4: that's not their entire business, but that is a book 529 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 4: reading part of the world. 530 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty educated pile or was. People 531 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: don't read anymore very much. 532 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: So that's just gone book sections, sorts section, the Post 533 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 3: Reports podcast, which I had never listened to, but they've 534 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 3: eliminated that completely. And then they've severely scaled back all 535 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 3: their metro local coverage, international coverage, foreign bureaus closed, foreign 536 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: correspondents no more. They'll be barely any international coverage at 537 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 3: all in the Washington Post. That's unbelievable. That's that's shocking, 538 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: it really is, and nothing's going to fill the gap 539 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 3: on that. You eliminate sports. God, there's so many places 540 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: to get sports takes or scores or whatever you need 541 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: to know injury reports. 542 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: It's everywhere. 543 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: A reporter who's been on the ground in some country 544 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: in Africa where they just had a you know, a 545 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 3: horrifying slaying of Christians or something like that. TikTok influencers 546 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: aren't sending a correspondent to report on that, right, There's 547 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: just not gonna be anybody doing that anymore. Oh anyway, 548 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: so it'll be interesting to see how this all shakes out. 549 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 3: There's just gonna be a lot of stuff that does 550 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: not get covered. Isn't getting covered now by real news. 551 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: Plenty of hot takes, including US plenty of hot takes 552 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: on all subjects but the hottest. But people go into 553 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: the city council meeting, the boring, boring, long, three hour 554 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: city council meeting, and then writing is really. 555 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 4: Probably affects your life more than actually the latest griping 556 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 4: about whatever you know, this online. 557 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 3: Goal board meeting or whatever location around the world to 558 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,719 Speaker 3: report on this or that, And now all that stuff's 559 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: going away has. 560 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 4: Gone on a cheerier note, because this is depressing. On 561 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 4: a cheerier note, I have, thanks to alert listener Mike, 562 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 4: become aware of a website that is so enjoyable unless 563 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 4: you think about it for a minute. 564 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 565 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 4: It's the list of nicknames used by Donald Trump for 566 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: various people. A complete list of the insulting nicknames? And 567 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: when are you getting utilized by the president? 568 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: When we wait? Do that next hour? Okay, that's something 569 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: to look forward to an hour to join us, won't you. 570 00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 571 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 3: See, that's the sort of thing we need. We need 572 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 3: more of that. That will fill in international reporting funny lists. 573 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: What do you want out of me? Go to Africa 574 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 4: and report the slaughter were yelling at me. Olympic sparts 575 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 4: start tomorrow night. Got some interesting information on that Super 576 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: Bowl Sunday. Those wacky bets that usually occur. 577 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: Can get into all that all on the way the 578 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 3: wacky crop bets, including length of the national anthem. 579 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: We can get to that in an hour or two. We 580 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: can give you the lines if you want to get 581 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: in on the wagering. Yes, do it. 582 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 3: Who's had the longest national anthem all the time? Who 583 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: had the shortest? Actually kind of interesting, we'll get to that. 584 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 4: Here's your Freeddom loving quote of the day, departing from 585 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 4: our list of quotes from communists for the moment, just 586 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: because I appreciate this being sent along by one of 587 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: our fabulous A listeners. Quoting Arthur Schopenhauer. This relates st 588 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: our discussion earlier in the show. There are two kinds 589 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 4: of people in this world. Avoid them both. 590 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: I like that one. 591 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 4: Oh that's so good, mail bag, Would you like to 592 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 4: communicate with us? Drop us a notes an email mailbag 593 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: at Armstrong and Yetty dot com. Rich Yes, Rich from 594 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 4: San Francisco. Right, So, I was chatting with the Google 595 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 4: Gemini last night, which by the way, is the clear 596 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 4: leader among consumer adopted AI systems. 597 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: It hadn't realized that more on that line. Oh wow, 598 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: I hear chat GBT reference so much more. I didn't 599 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: know that interesting chatting with Gemini. Asked about your show. 600 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: Apparently you are quote a powerhouse in the American talk 601 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 4: radio to podcast pipeline. You have quote nearly a telepathic chemistry. 602 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 4: Jack is the quote everyman prone to outrage over government 603 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: and absurdity. Shoe is quote professorial who brings a more 604 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 4: philosophical and. 605 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Historical lens to the discussion. 606 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 4: And we are both in the quote sensible middle on 607 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 4: the political scale. Rich says, I'm a twin of year listener. 608 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 4: Sounds about right to me. Keep up the good work, thanks, Rich. 609 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Does it mention that I have not have 610 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: a movement now in four days? Good God? 611 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 4: That's every man, all right, that's unsophisticated. 612 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: Four days. I think this is my all time record. 613 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: What you got up your prunes? 614 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 3: Clearly I'm eating the prunes, but not enough four days? 615 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 3: Four days was last weekend. 616 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: He's saving it. 617 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 4: Like money, folks, I mean, what's going on? Moving along 618 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 4: as quickly as possible. Tim, our most frequent email hater, 619 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 4: has a differing opinion of the show. 620 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: Shani object alert. 621 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 4: You clowns are no better than the MSM ambulance chasers 622 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 4: and about as effective as Steve Whitless. 623 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: I mean whit cough? Is that? Tim sensus? I hate 624 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: email semi regularly. 625 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 3: That's probably for covering the Savannah Guthrie's mom story. 626 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm guessing. 627 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm sorry. The title of the email is 628 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: good Goo goog Guthrie. Okay, yeah, let's see moving along 629 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: on that topic, more left, more or less David Baltimore 630 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: rights related to the kidnapped oldster where the media found 631 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: blood evidence. I used to be a deputy corner in 632 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 4: San Francisco Bay Area. I fled for a better life 633 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 4: in spite of way more snow and ice. It's amazing 634 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 4: how many times I would find evidence in plain sight 635 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 4: when I finally got to the scene after the local 636 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: police had been working for many hours. Sometimes stuff is 637 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: just invisible until a fresh set of eyes hits it. 638 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 4: I also had to debunk some crackpot theories on a 639 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 4: few occasions too, but that's a different topic. 640 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear more about that. David actually fabulous. 641 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: So Trump called Savannah Guthrie and he's promised all kinds 642 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: of help from the federal government and everything like that. 643 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know I feel about that. 644 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if because you're a celebrity and you 645 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 3: know the president you get extra police help. 646 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 4: Kidnapping cases always get FBI assistance, But I don't know. 647 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 4: Alvin rights guys, people keep talking about AI becoming sentiment. 648 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 4: If that happens, will waimo EV's have road rage events 649 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: against tesla EV's. It'll all be filmed from both cars too. 650 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: Can't wait. 651 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: Oh, we got to get into the CBS News did 652 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 3: a report on this last night on the race for 653 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 3: automated driving between Tesla and I hated the story, so 654 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 3: I want to play. 655 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: Some of it. 656 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 4: Oh really, okay, all right, rage baiting clearly Ryan from Houston, 657 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 4: Deer cold Warrior, an old fancy jack. I say, unless oh, 658 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 4: this is the Super Bowl half time show. I say, 659 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 4: unless substandard rabbit whips it out and urinates on the 660 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 4: American flag or burns. It's the best thing conservatives can 661 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 4: do with Rabbit or Green Day stunts. Just ignore them. Also, 662 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 4: that's nearly impossible, kind of like riding the California Bullet Train. 663 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: Gets in an extra shot at the end. Well played. 664 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: You can bet on whether or not a bad bunny 665 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: is going to do something wacky, although I don't know 666 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 3: what qualifies as wacky. 667 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: That's the problem. 668 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got to read the frying print there, and 669 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: then Christo and Reno says, guys, I've been trying to 670 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 4: popularize the use of the word journavist instead of journalists 671 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 4: for the last few years. 672 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 3: What's that going for you? It's like me trying to 673 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 3: get yo yo yo catching on as a the greed. 674 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: I like it. 675 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 4: It's somebody it's an activist masquerading is a journalist, A journalist, 676 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 4: I appreciate that. 677 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: I wish you well. We've done our part, Chrystal, like 678 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 3: Don Lemon, that sort of thing. 679 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, that great example, although that would be 680 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 4: a Jack gas avist. 681 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: Don Lemon. Oh my god, we're terrible human. 682 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: We teached a whole bunch of different things that we 683 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 3: will get to and if you miss a segment or now, 684 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 3: or get the podcast Armstrong and Geddy on demand 685 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty