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Speaker 1: And we are one week out from the two thousand

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Speaker 1: nineteen NFL Draft. This is episode ten of the best

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Speaker 1: podcast available Jason Gibbs Andrew Gribble in the Dog Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and a lot is happening in preparation for a draft

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Speaker 1: but plenty still to go through and plenty to talk

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Speaker 1: in the war room with John Dorsey and his lieutenants

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Speaker 1: Mr Gribble, it's nice to have you back. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be back you guys. You guys held it down

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Speaker 1: pretty well. Listen. I listened to the entire podcast on

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Speaker 1: good job. I was I was worried I might not

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Speaker 1: We are glad to have you back. Coming up on

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Speaker 1: the program today, we will go through some of the

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Speaker 1: our guest segment of the day as well. Right now, though,

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Speaker 1: I want to take a few minutes just to go

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Speaker 1: through the annual tradition that is giving out information in

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Speaker 1: general manager pre draft presser, a tradition unlike any other.

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Speaker 1: Mr Gribble. Yeah, not a not an formative event. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not anywhere. I mean not not here, correct, not New York,

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Speaker 1: if my math is correct, unofficially, fifty seven questions fired

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Speaker 1: at John Dorsey. That's a lot. I didn't realize there

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Speaker 1: John Dorsey answered everything and never batted an eyelash, and

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Speaker 1: you know that things have changed in Cleveland is that

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Speaker 1: the first like five questions at this pre draft press conference,

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Speaker 1: And he gave his endorsement UH to that the coaches

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Speaker 1: things have changed a lot in one year. You've gone

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Speaker 1: and then your questions at a pre draft press conference

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Speaker 1: talking about a player who was drafted in two thousand

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Speaker 1: fIF Yes, exactly, and one that, by the way, doesn't

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Speaker 1: So it's it's just that's where we're at. And it's

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Speaker 1: no knock on reporters. I think that was the more

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Speaker 1: early selections of the two thousand NFL draft, We've always

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Speaker 1: And I mean we I go went to the pro

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00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 1: days throughout the others a time, but I wouldn't talk

431
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: to scouts obviously, um and so Pro day it was

432
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: kind of like my real first interaction, you know, talking

433
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 1: to some scouts. And but even then it was kind

434
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 1: of weird because it's like they're not super focused on

435
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,479
Speaker 1: the junior day at that point, and our junior day

436
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: was always you know, like after like hours after our

437
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: actual pro day, so some of the Scots like, I

438
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: actually want to get out of here. We have other

439
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: pro days to get to, and so it was kind

440
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 1: of a weird thing. But then, as you know, senior

441
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 1: year came in and practiced rolling around and scouts are

442
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 1: out there, and then that's when I quit conversations with

443
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: him here and there. I know there's for some quarterbacks,

444
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: they always get feedback, and there's coaches try to make

445
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: them more pro ready their senior year. Was there anything

446
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: where you heard from teams that maybe tried to make

447
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: you more proo ready in your last season in Nevada?

448
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: I didn't get much feedback going in, and um, I

449
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 1: really didn't talk to him all that much. I I

450
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: just I really wanted to focus on my senior year,

451
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: just because it was a brand new head coach. We

452
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: had so much change going on. We brought in forty

453
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: new freshmen to the team, and so there was just

454
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: a lot of chaos already, and I didn't feel like

455
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: it would be fair to my team to like, hey, guys,

456
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of forgetting about you already. I got this

457
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: other thing going on, and so I really like when

458
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: it came to like agents and scouts and everything, I

459
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: really tried to push that off just to focus on

460
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: my senior year. So when things wrap up, what's the

461
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 1: what's the first thing you have to do when you're

462
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: done it at college and you started to focus on

463
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: the ifl Uh. The first thing I did was nothing

464
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: like I was like I need I need a break,

465
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: Like I got some finals coming up, I need to

466
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 1: study for those, and so really I just kind of

467
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: like took a little bit of time off just because

468
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 1: you know, this season seasons grouling and it's gonna be

469
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: a long year and this you know, going in that

470
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: first season. So I kind of just laid low for

471
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. I finished my finals, ma toure, finished

472
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: school right, and just spent some real good time with family.

473
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 1: Because come January, like that's when I'm back into training

474
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: for you know, Senior Bowl, Combine Pro Day and all that.

475
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: Where did you go to train and how did you

476
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: even arrive on that decision? Yeah? So I uh, the

477
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: whole agent process is just another beast in itself, and

478
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 1: kind of like a little late into my junior year,

479
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: some agents started reaching out, and then all throughout senior

480
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: year they were reaching out to me, and you know,

481
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 1: I'd either just put them off when talk to them

482
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: at all, or just send him a message just saying, hey,

483
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: thank you for your interest, but I'm focusing on my

484
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: senior year, I'll reach out to you when the season's over.

485
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: And so then it just came a point of taking

486
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: phone call and seeing who had a good feeling with,

487
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: had a couple of dinners, and really just came down

488
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: to like who, being my wife jelled with, and you know,

489
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 1: we ended up with repe One Sports and it's it's

490
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: just been a great decision being with them, and we uh,

491
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: they're down in Irvine, California's where they're stationed that and

492
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: got a nice set up down there, and so that's

493
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: where we spent I spent all of my note January

494
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: February and some of marks going through all this What

495
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: was maybe some of the stuff that you had to

496
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: do at that period that you've maybe never had to

497
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: do since, just because you're trying to get prepared for

498
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: the combine. I think it's just the combines just you know,

499
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: it's just a show in itself, right, There's so many

500
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 1: drills that have been there for so long that they

501
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: might not hold true to the game of football, but

502
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: everyone's done them, and so it's the best way to

503
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: compare someone to you know, someone from twenty years ago, right,

504
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: And so that's why the combine is the way it is.

505
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: It's a comparison for players now and for a long

506
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 1: time ago, and you know what the combine is. You

507
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: know what drills are going to be done, and so

508
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: you have to go in there preparing and actually practicing

509
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: those drills, and so it's still just kind of crazy thing.

510
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: For me, it was just running of forty just to

511
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: be an offensive linement. That's that's not what we do.

512
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: And so training for that and being with a speed

513
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: coach and it's like, I'm not a track I've never

514
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: sprinted a good distance and doing a great form and

515
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: technique and all that, and so trying to get that

516
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: done and and learned that it's just a crazy thing

517
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: for an offensive linement. But I enjoyed it, and you know,

518
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: also glad I don't have to do it again. Was

519
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: that the last time you ran the forty? Yeah, and

520
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: especially as you know, sprinting like that, Charyl do some

521
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: strider's now, some some great conditioning work, but yeah, coming

522
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: out of three point stands, full form, trying to look

523
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: good and yeah, that's that's it for me. What part

524
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: of the I know it is probably early, but when

525
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: were you notified that left tackle it wasn't going to

526
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: be your NFL position. Was that still in college or

527
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: was was that maybe once you wrap things up? I was.

528
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: I was even in college. M Brian Point is my

529
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: first head coach in Vada, you know, I was. He

530
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: was there for the first four years that I had

531
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: with him, his four years in Nevada. And he told

532
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: me my red shirt year, He's like, look like, you're

533
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: gonna be good and one day if you want to

534
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: play NFL, but I've learned how to snap, you better

535
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: learn how to play guard because that's just the nature

536
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: of it. And so he told me from early on.

537
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: And so I that's something I was continually worked and

538
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: obviously never played in the game, but I always just

539
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: kind of got reps here and there when I was

540
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: in Nevada, and that was something all the other coaches

541
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: I had, they always told me to be ready to

542
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: get moved inside, like you've already seen a lejol, Like,

543
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: get ready to get moved inside. And were there some

544
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: the teams that were still legitimately interested and just left

545
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: tackle free or was it all were they all mentioning interior? Yeah,

546
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: I know it was a good mix. Um. It seems

547
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: like like You've already played fifty games at left tackle,

548
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: You've proved you can do it. There's no reason to

549
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 1: move you. Then there's other teams like we think you're

550
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 1: gonna be best on the right side. I think you're

551
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: gonna best at center. And so it was a good

552
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: mix from you know, pretty much every time I talked

553
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: to and so going through that knowing that my agent

554
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 1: had a good feel for that as well, and he's like,

555
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: what would just be ready for all five? Just just

556
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: don't have any expectations, Just get ready. When was your

557
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: first contact with the Bronze Um It was at the

558
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: Combine and we met informal with Coach Wildly on Coach

559
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: huts In and they had trained station there and it

560
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: was about a ten minute conversation, just going over some

561
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: fronts and just talking a little bit, and that was it.

562
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: That was all the contact I had with the Browns.

563
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: And you know, they were they weren't at Pro Day,

564
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: and that was it. That was all the talk I

565
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: had with them, And so it was kind of crazy,

566
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: actually that I had so little interaction with them. We're

567
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: about a week out from the two thousand nineteen draft.

568
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: What do you remember doing during this time, because it

569
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: seems like everything's kind of wrapped up on the surface.

570
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: Well what were you doing in these days leading up

571
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: to the draft? Yeah, so you kinda starting in January,

572
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: everything deals pretty quickly, you know, you go, you know,

573
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: you finish your season and you start training, and then

574
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: you got your all start your senior games, and then

575
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: from there you got another month and the combines here

576
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: and then depending on when your pro day is, and

577
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: then you get your private workouts in your visits in

578
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: and then after that it just kind of goes quiet

579
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: and it's dead. You're not really hearing anything. You'll a

580
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: phone call every now and then from just some scouts

581
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: just saying like, hey, is this your phone number? We

582
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: just want to make sure we have all your contact

583
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: information right, just to double check, you know, come draft

584
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: day if if we do you make a decision to

585
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: choose you. But other than that, it's kind of quiet.

586
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: And so the last week I remember that that was

587
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: probably like one of the more stressful weeks for me,

588
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: just because there was no interaction, there was nothing going on.

589
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: Then it was you know, you get all your friends

590
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: and all your family all go what's going on, what's

591
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: gonna happen. What's gonna You have no idea, and nobody

592
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: on draft day knows what's gonna happen until it does.

593
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: What's part of you convinced that you've heard from so

594
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: much from one particular team that they were going to

595
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: draft you or is there anything like that? I like, mentally,

596
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I got talked to this team

597
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: a lot, I interact with this team a lot. Maybe

598
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: that's that's a sign. But then also like I had

599
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: been talking to Joel through the process and he's like, honestly,

600
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: like for the Browns, it is the same thing for him,

601
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: He's like I only talked to him for a couple

602
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: of minutes, like I had no interaction with him. And

603
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: then another buddy, Kyle Roberts, who got picked up by

604
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos after from Nevada, and he's like, I didn't

605
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: talk to Broncos at all, And it was so it's

606
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: kind of like the it's a weird mix. And so

607
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean I was like, Okay, maybe you know this

608
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: place seems right, this would be a fit. Okay, not here,

609
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: not here, And then it's just so hard to put

610
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,199
Speaker 1: it all together. What did do? Day one? We were

611
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: I was yet I was just at our We're at

612
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: a close friend's house that night, a bunch of family

613
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: and just really close friends. UM. I wasn't expecting around

614
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: one by any means. If it happened, it happened, and

615
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: so that's why we're kind of there. You know, it's like, hey,

616
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: we're at a friend's house, like there's really low key,

617
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: who's watching, Um, nothing crazy. And then day two we

618
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: were was at my parents house and I just had

619
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: her you know, same people, just family and real close

620
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: friends and not expecting it to be, uh, to happen

621
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: that quick. That's I was thinking. I was thinking a

622
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: lot of times a guy in your position, the thirty

623
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: third pick, that's someone who's maybe disappointed they didn't go

624
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: around one. I mean, were you were you in a

625
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: unique position that you weren't really that down? I guess

626
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: going into day two, I guess, yeah, I wasn't expecting

627
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: when I'm going, like, I don't want to get expositation

628
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: high and be let down and and all that. I mean,

629
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: like even going in, you know, coming in when I

630
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: first met with my agent, he's like, right now, you

631
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: think we can sneak you into the fifth round and

632
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: all right, that's great. I just want to be drafted,

633
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: like I do not care, like starting as a walk on,

634
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: Like I just didn't care, Like I just want this

635
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: chance to play in the NFL. Right, And so you know,

636
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: come day two and you know, like we're all showing

637
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: up at my mom and dad's house and my dad

638
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: had just left to pick my sister up from softball practice,

639
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: and like people are still kind of rolling in and

640
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: my dad's not even home. When I got the phone call,

641
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is not going to

642
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: be good, right, And so he was able to and

643
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: I was on the phone long enough for him just

644
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: to you know, park and get inside real quick before

645
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: they announced it on TV. But disappointed that I was

646
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: in the first round, not even close. So a lot

647
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: of people don't know this, but it's kind of a

648
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: fire drill once you are drafted on kind of the

649
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: logistics of getting you here. I know, you didn't have

650
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: to do a press conference here, that was one less

651
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: thing you had to do. But what what was the moment?

652
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: Maybe the most stressful part of it, just getting yourself

653
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: here to to get ready to go. I mean, as

654
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: soon as I was drafted, you know, kind of had

655
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: that moment on TV and everything, you know, same name,

656
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: and and then from there, you know, just giving people

657
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: hugs in the house, you know, and and talking and

658
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: then you know, I got I got you know, phone

659
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: calls are going that crazy. But then you know, I

660
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: got Cleveland here to coach showing up. Okay, I got

661
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: an answers, and then it's radio shows and I'm already

662
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: doing interviews and and it's crazy. And then it's setting

663
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: my flights to get out here. It's getting all that

664
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: information to get out here and make sure they got everything,

665
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: all the contact information, all my personal information right, and

666
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: that I was out here. And you know, six days

667
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: after getting drafted, and so I know for Baker and Denzel,

668
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: they to do a press conference, and so they were

669
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: out right away. You know, I at least kind of

670
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: had a week to kind of you know, calm down

671
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: and get my mind right and I'll get a little

672
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: couple of extra workouts in and and just get ready

673
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: for rookie minicant. When did the adrenaline wear off? And

674
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: when does the exhaustion set in from the entire precher

675
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: process kind of the four months of NonStop stuff. I

676
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: still think it's probably the week before the draft to

677
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: kind of I was like, wow, like I've been going

678
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: for four months now, and like it's just crazy how

679
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: much I've done. And so that kind of week before

680
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: the draft was kind of like, okay, like I can relax,

681
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: like I've got all like the real hard stuff, you know,

682
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: for this crazy process out of the way and and

683
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: get a you know, a couple of days to breathe

684
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: before it all turns back on again. And I think

685
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: that was kind of how I enjoyed the process a

686
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: little more. It was any two day window I had

687
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: of just to relax, I would take advantage of because

688
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be a grilling year.

689
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: So I mean, you go into a first full season,

690
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 1: then is it then is it the first real vacation

691
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: you take is the January after your first season? Absolutely?

692
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: And that was you know, he went down to my

693
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: wife and I went to St. Lucia with j C

694
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: and is now fiance, and uh, we were just kind

695
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: of you know, sitting by the beach and me a

696
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: life We're just talking was like, can you believe like

697
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: how much we've done from January to January, Like going

698
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: from you know, Vine to everything that we've done there

699
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: and downomobile with the Senior Bowl to the Pro Day,

700
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: the combine all the different games and just the craziness,

701
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, just moving to Cleveland, which we never thought,

702
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, in our wildest dreams, that would be in Cleveland.

703
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: Then it was just crazy in a surreal moment when

704
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: we were just in St. Lucia thinking about that, what's

705
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: the one piece of advice and maybe the one thing

706
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: that people definitely don't know about the draft process that

707
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: that you could share. I think just the best advice

708
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: probably all these all these prospects is to not read

709
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: anything online because all these all the different mock drafts

710
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: that have thousands of mock drafts that come out, none

711
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: of them are even remotely accurate. Right, Like, sure people

712
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: have great ideas and and all that, but I mean,

713
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: how many like every quarterback was an option last year,

714
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: right but Baker is the one? How many people said

715
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: Baker isn't the one? How many people just rolle him

716
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: off right away from Cleveland? And so there's just so

717
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: much in social media nowadays how quickly things can get out.

718
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: Just avoiding that throughout this process, it would be the

719
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: number one thing because you can you can get caught

720
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,959
Speaker 1: up so quickly, and the fact that this guy has

721
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: in the first round pick that means I'm the first

722
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: round like no, like, like what does this guy actually know? Who? Like?

723
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: And so I think that's probably the biggest thing. And

724
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: and then just getting through the years, just enjoying the

725
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: minutes of downtime that you get, because that that's going

726
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: to help you break up this season. That's gonna help

727
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: you get through it and it not hit those slumps.

728
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: We want to thank Austin Corbett, what a great interview, GRIBs,

729
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: outstanding job by you, and just what a great inside peek.

730
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: The fact that he went so early that his dad

731
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: wasn't even home. He was thinking he was gonna be

732
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: a mid round pick and he ends up being the

733
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: number one pick in the second round on a Friday night,

734
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: and just the whole process. It is quite the whirlwind

735
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: for a rookie coming into the National Football League. You

736
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: heard it from him. The first really downtime after his

737
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: college season ended, through the process leading up to the

738
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: draft through the two thousand eighteen season was January of

739
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: the following year. A lot is expected, a lot is

740
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: asked of these young players as they come out and

741
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: they get drafted, and a lot is gonna be expected

742
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: of this year's class as well, with the expectations so

743
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: high here in Cleveland, Gribbs, as we take a look

744
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 1: at some of the mock drafts that the heavy hitters

745
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: are now coming to the table with. You know, we

746
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: we we've had a lot of great mock drafts out,

747
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: but now you get the guys that are paid specifically

748
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: to do one job and one job only, and that's

749
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: covered the NFL Draft, and now we're they're coming out

750
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: with their mocks. You have Kuiper and McShay, you have

751
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Wilson from CBS Sports, and of course Daniel Jeremiah,

752
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 1: the new Mike mayock over at NFL Network. Kiper mcshaye

753
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: went head to head in a three round mox so

754
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: basically they just rotated picks all the way down through

755
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: three rounds. So it pick forty nine, Mick shay was

756
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: on the clock and he chose David Long, defensive back

757
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: from Michigan. Cleveland's first pick in the strap comes in

758
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: the middle of round two. It doesn't have huge needs,

759
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: but injuries have plugged the defensive back core. A physical

760
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: press corner, Long gives the Browns depth behind Denzel Ward

761
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: and Terence Mitchell. Makes sense, And I think it would

762
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: be a safe bet, not a sure thing bet, that

763
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: one of the two picks on Day two will be

764
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: used on a cornerback. I just think you need more

765
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: bodies there, more bodies that you can count on, not

766
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: just camp bodies, guys that you want to compete for

767
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: roster spots. Yeah, I mean, Dorsey said it today in

768
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: the press conference, like the way the NFL has changed,

769
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: you can't have enough defensive backs. Yeah, and it it work.

770
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: It's worked last year the Browns. The plan actually worked

771
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: because we thought at this time last year that the

772
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: team was almost adding too many defensive backs because you

773
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: signed three in free agency and you drafted another one

774
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: with Denzel Ward, and you end up using all of them.

775
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Terrence Mitchell goes down Week four. E J.

776
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: Gaines has to step up. Then he has a couple

777
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: of injuries, he had to shuffle some guys around. Uh,

778
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: you know t J. Carey was moving from nicol to

779
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: the outside. He did a commendable job there. So you're

780
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna all these cornerbacks who make the team at some point,

781
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to play man on man on against

782
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: the team's number one or number two receiver. Yep, exactly.

783
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: It just gives you that depth that you need. At

784
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: pick number eighty in the third round, mel Kiper's pick

785
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: Cary Willis, safety out of Michigan State. The Browns dot

786
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: dot dot are good with a question mark. It's a

787
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: strange site. After years of a football Willis could compete

788
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: for time and strong safety and wreak havoc on special teams.

789
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: Uh And there lies the appealing part of Willis's game

790
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: and some of these other guys that are going to

791
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: be drafted. We need some guys that can play special teams.

792
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: We need some good special teams players and not just guys.

793
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because honestly, before we even sat down

794
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: for this, that's not even a name I've even heard

795
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: it mentioned it safety. I mean, we've kind of talked

796
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: about a lot of the same guys, but maybe we

797
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: got kind of bottled in with the oh you draft

798
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: of safety in the second round, not the third round.

799
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: So this is this is going a little deeper. This

800
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: will probably be I would imagine he'd be about the

801
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: eighth safety off the board, maybe because there could be

802
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: a bunch in the second round, So I mean it

803
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: would it again will come down to this is a

804
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: draft where it might be lip service when the team

805
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: says they're drafting the best player available no matter what,

806
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: in every round. I think this is where it really

807
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: does come down to that because you I think Dorsey

808
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: would not be afraid to go any direction in the

809
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: third round minus quarterback. Yeah, it's been a lot of

810
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: defense mocks, but it could very well be someone on

811
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: offense too. All right. Taking a look at Ryan Wilson

812
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: seven round mock now out on CBS sports dot com,

813
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: second round pick, the Browns first pick in this draft.

814
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: We'll go through these quickly. He has DeAndre Baker defensive

815
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: back Georgia. Baker was being mocked in first rounds just

816
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: a month and a half ago. Yes, door board winner

817
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: and it's corner in football, and now you have him

818
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: going forty Anyway, this guy really does last to forty nine.

819
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see, because it comes down with him.

820
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: The knock on him is he's made he made a

821
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: lot of plays, but I guess he doesn't wow you

822
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: with the athleticism. And I think that's the that that

823
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: that might be something that might not translate in the

824
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: f al or it might just be something you don't

825
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: worry about because some guys just don't perform as well

826
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: in the in the combine like setting. I mean, in

827
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: terms of accomplished college players, this is about as good

828
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: as you can get at forty nine and one of

829
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: the best, the best cornerback in college football. I would

830
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: think the Browns would run to the podium, sprint to

831
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: the podium to turn in the card for this one.

832
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: And by comparison, you know McShay had David Long mocked

833
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: at forty You have to go all the way down

834
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: to eighty three to see him get drafted in this draft,

835
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: so that it shows the variants. I mean, we always

836
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: might make fun of how mock drafts are a way

837
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: off when you're just doing the first round. They get

838
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: all over the place when you when you start going

839
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: day two and day three. All right, in the third round,

840
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: he has uh Deonte Thompson, safety out of Alabama at

841
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: pick number eighty. Uh Thompson, a range arrange e free

842
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: safety who has impressive ball skills, but a poor finish

843
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: to the college season saw his draft draft stock slip.

844
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: I know that you at one time covered the Alabama crew.

845
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: I think this guy was committed as a junior in

846
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: my last season at Alabama. Really yeah, I think he

847
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: was an early commit. But yeah, that's that ages me

848
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think I've run out of guys

849
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: with any connections that I have at Alabama. I will

850
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: say the track record on Alabama dbs is hit, miss,

851
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: mostly hit. Though I think a lot of these guys

852
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: hang around and do pretty well someone I don't think

853
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: that maybe they're not similar players at all. But a

854
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: player a safety that slipped in the draft that had

855
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: a so so Alabama career that's turned out pretty good

856
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: as Eddie Jackson, and he was a former cornerback turn

857
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 1: safety and now he's he's turned to do a pretty

858
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: good player for the Bears. And so it can be

859
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: hit or missed with some of these guys at Alabama.

860
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: They but they learned from the best one of the

861
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: best defensive coaches, defensive backs coaches out there, and Nick Saban,

862
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: who truly is hands on. I wouldn't just be disappointed

863
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: with a guy like Thompson in the third round. I

864
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: think as as happy as you are with to Marius Randall,

865
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: you need another option there. Would you be surprised if

866
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: they went secondary with both picks on Day two? You

867
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: can't have enough? Fair enough? All right? We got around

868
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: four the Browns taking an offensive tackle and pick number

869
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: one nineteen out of Oklahoma Bobby Evans. Would he be

870
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: the last of the Oklahoma offensive line drafted? I'm pretty sure.

871
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: What could. I saw a story today about how they

872
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: could have four guys drafted by the end of day three,

873
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: and I imagine this is one of those guys by

874
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: the end of day two. I mean that this is

875
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: a This was the offensive line that helped keep Kyler

876
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Murray clean and ultimately helped keep Baker Mayfield clean during

877
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: during their time there as well. Great offensive line, and

878
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: I would say this, much like defensive backs, I don't

879
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: think you can have enough offensive linemen. Yeah, and I

880
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: think that there are some questions. I know Austin Corbett

881
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: will be the starting guard when camp begins, but you know,

882
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: can Corbett hang onto it? He's gonna be tested. There's

883
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: a lot of battles on that offensive line worth watching here.

884
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: This is sort of unrelated, but I'll bring it up anyways,

885
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: because sometimes an offensive line can be the some of

886
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: its parts and be great because of that. Alabama in

887
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve had the most elite offensive line in

888
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: college football. Their NFL prospects did not go so well.

889
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: You had left tackle Sarruhs kuanjo disappointment, Left guard Chance

890
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: Warmack big disappointment. He's playing, but he was drafted top ten.

891
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: You want, uh, a Quentin Nelson type if you're using

892
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: that pick on guard Barrett Jones out of football. Right

893
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: guard Anthony Steen. I think he's still hanging around with

894
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. I think he's actually he was the lowest

895
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: drafted of those guys, and he's hung around the longest,

896
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: so he's been okay. D J Fluker disappointment. Just throwing

897
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 1: some caution out there with the Oklhoma offensive line. There

898
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: could be some good players out there, but when you're

899
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: part of an elite offensive line, sometimes your buddy can

900
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: make you look a little bit better than you might be.

901
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: I got a feeling Joe Thomas did that for a

902
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: couple of players on this offensive line in his career. Yeah. Uh,

903
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: in the fifth round, just a couple, you know, quick Ones,

904
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: Chris Layton defensive tackle from Syracuse Um DeMarcus Lodge, wide receiver,

905
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: from Old Miss to be the third guy there, I guess, yeah,

906
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: and T J. Edwards linebacker round of Wisconsin. So there

907
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: you go. You get your linebacker on the fifth round.

908
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: Those three fifth round picks could all end up being

909
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: big time picks for this football team on Day three. Yeah,

910
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it turns into depth and it's funny.

911
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm just scrolling down here. The saddest pick in the

912
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: sixth round, second pick in the sixth round, Bryce love Man.

913
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: That was he was the Heisman favorite, like it, Yeah,

914
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: a year ago around this and now you're looking at

915
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: a guy that. I mean, you get to the six

916
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: and seventh round. I think there's a part of you

917
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: that says, I'd almost rather not be drafted because then

918
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: I can pick where I want to, I can go. Yeah,

919
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: I think there's some financial reasons that you still want

920
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: to get drafted in terms of, like you get some

921
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: more guaranteed money. Probably, But yeah, you're right. I mean,

922
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: especially if you're a seventh round pick on a good team.

923
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: It's almost better to be a seventh round pick on

924
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: a bad team because the easier shot of making the roster.

925
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: But seventh round pick for this team, I don't. I

926
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: don't know you. You will become just as much of

927
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: a success story as an undrafted freagent that makes this team.

928
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: The odds are are just the same. Defensive back going

929
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: a pick number one, eight nine for the Browns in

930
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: the in the sixth round, and then the seventh round.

931
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: Another wide receiver, Penny Hart out of Georgia State. So

932
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: it's been in he I think he's been reported as

933
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: a visitor here out there. I don't know if I

934
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: laid eyes on him, but he's been I believe that's

935
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: been reported that he visited here. It's always something to

936
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: keep in mind. I think that was maybe went in

937
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: to the line of thinking with that one that if

938
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: a guy's visiting, there's a chance they might end up

939
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: getting drafted. All right. So that's Ryan Wilson's seven round

940
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: mock on CBS Sports dot Com and Daniel Jeremiah NFL

941
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: Network his latest mock out this week, and I'm sure

942
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: he will have another one leading up. But you know, again,

943
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: you got Murray one, you got Bosa too. He does

944
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: have at Oliver going three to the Jets. So Oliver

945
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: stock now on the rebound, and boy, I mean, if

946
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: you could have tracked this guy through his career and

947
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: what his pre draft process. I mean a guy that

948
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: was higher high of highs two, middle to low late

949
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: first round and now coming back up the board and

950
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: now you know they're saying he's a top five pick. Uh.

951
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: Just interesting to watch how the process plays out. So

952
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: he was on a conference call on Thursday and was

953
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: asked about the at Oliver Pickett number three. This interesting

954
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: answer from him. This is where it goes with what

955
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: what he hears him what he sees with his eyes.

956
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: So he was asked about mocking at Oliver the Jets

957
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: instead of Quentin Williams, and the quote is, if the

958
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: question is what would I do, I would take quin

959
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: Quentin Williams and I wouldn't turn back. So that pick

960
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: is based on intel, not on what he would do,

961
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: which is which is very interesting. Wow, we'll see. Maybe

962
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: it's a I mean maybe because is it because the

963
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: Jets already have Leonard Williams and him and Quinn Williams

964
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: be pretty similar. They have a quota on number of

965
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: williams Is on their team. They added Greg Williams. Leonard Williams.

966
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: You would want to confuse some people. Uh, So I

967
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: don't know. That's that's where he starts. These kind of

968
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: drafts are where he's making picks based on what he hears,

969
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: not just on what he sees. He's got Daniel Jones

970
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: at six of the Giants Again, I don't know why

971
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: we continue to see him ahead of asking it's got

972
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: to be some legitimate buzz with this guy. He's hanging

973
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: around a lot. Yeah, you said it all along. I

974
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: mean is it just because of his coach? Yeah? And

975
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: he's putting it out there that this guy's legit. Yeah.

976
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins Now we're seeing him a lot more at

977
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: eleven to the Bengals. You really think the Bengals will

978
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: take a quarterback that high in the first round? I

979
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: mean they, I mean that they could then cut if

980
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: they wanted to cut Dalton tomorrow. There's no dead money

981
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: this year or next. Could they trade him though? It

982
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: was there any value? I mean, Condoulton upgrade some teams

983
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. He's definitely not the worst league. H I mean,

984
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: I um, I'll stick with I'll believe it when I

985
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: see it. With with the Bengals and drafts and a

986
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: quarterback like that, Yeah, I still think one of the linebackers. Yeah,

987
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: one of the two backers goes. Uh, just a few

988
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: other Again, the biggest takeaways for me, He's got Jeffrey

989
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: Simmons to the Seahawks a one. Yeah, and that would

990
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: that would make a little sense, especially with who's the

991
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: name escapes me the gentleman they just franchised, you know,

992
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: maybe that's yeah, Hey, you're right, you'll be here for

993
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: one year and then hopefully Simmons is back and ready

994
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: to go. And they drafted Frank Clark with similar questionable

995
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: issues in college as well. Yeah. So, uh, the only

996
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver going in Round one, Mark Marquis Brown to Philly.

997
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: Jeremy has come a long way on DK Metcalf as

998
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: he not because he was I think in some early

999
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: ones was in a top ten pick. Yep. I mean

1000
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: that's he's got one wide receiver. That's the thing that

1001
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I think that surprises me the most. Yeah, And we'd

1002
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: be going nuts about it, have we not made the

1003
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: Adelt trade. Yeah, it would be lining up that the

1004
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: Browns could potentially draft the best the player they view

1005
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: as the best wide receiver in the draft. So he's

1006
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: got a number of defensive backs. Now he's got rock

1007
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: Ya Sin going to the Chargers. As of Yate thought

1008
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: that was a little bit of a surprise because that's

1009
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: a guy that UH didn't see much of in the

1010
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: first round, more second round or Day two, and all

1011
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's working his way into the today

1012
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: that teams are starting to love his background as a

1013
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: championship wrestler. They like that about him. So well, he's

1014
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: he he's he's He's had a weird road to to

1015
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: where he is now. I think he started off at

1016
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: Presby Presbyterian College might might be the school before moving

1017
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: on to Temple. So he's definitely a riser and he's

1018
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: been someone that's been talked about all the way back

1019
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl. And he does have four quarterbacks

1020
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: going Drew Lock at number thirty to the Green Bay

1021
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: Packers as the air to Aaron Rodgers, think that I believe,

1022
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine that's going to be the case.

1023
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: So those are some of the big marks that are

1024
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Speaker 1: out one week from the NFL Draft, and we look

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Speaker 1: forward to the next week bringing you in the final

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Speaker 1: episode of the best podcast available, GRIPS. Appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: as always problem and we look forward to talking with

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Speaker 1: you next week. This has been episode ten of the

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