1 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Friday Fun Show Around the 2 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: NFL's guide to Sunday and beyond. Dan Hands is here 3 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: from the Home studio, joining me Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: and the Great Patrick claiban Nice forsome here like it. 5 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: First time we've had a guest here on the Friday 6 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Fun Show. I don't know if Claibon is ready to 7 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: bring the requisite fun, but he looks he looks ready. 8 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: He doesn't look ready. Well, this sound is not. He's 9 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: also manning a small child, so let's see how this goes. 10 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: I know he's got multiple duties. I mean the answer, 11 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: there's your answer, Greg, is Claibon ready for the on. 12 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: We haven't heard him yet, but he's gonna work through 13 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: the technics. There's nothing but fun here. There is this 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: is This is all we have. Um, this is we 15 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: got some spelling games going on. This is this is fun. 16 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: I love. This is what you need here on the 17 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Friday Fun Show. This is what the people have been missing. 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: The doctor ordered this. People think that the idea of 19 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: having young children and constant responsibility is not fun. Well, 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, plug in because it is a ball um 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: and yes, the reason why if this is a regular podcast. 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: We might stop down and say, oh, we're gonna get 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Patrick's audio working and then we'll start the show. No, 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: but this is live. That's part of the fun. It's 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: a high wire act, Sessler. And we are here with 26 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: all the listeners from America and abroad. So thank you 27 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: everybody that's on right now. The numbers are going up 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: higher and higher, Sessler. Do you have any butterflies when 29 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: we're in a true live environment. Yes, I mean even 30 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: though we just um are about a week removed from 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: doing a live show in front of real people, it's 32 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: this production that gets me very nervous. Um. I'm not 33 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: sure what to say next. I'm just gonna deal with 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: it on a minute by minute basis. I get a 35 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: little nervous about the future of our company after Thursday 36 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: night football, um, which we're gonna get to in a 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: little bit. But also we're going to have our predictions 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: for week five at the end of the show. And also, 39 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: you know, a constant rebranding, a shifting as we figure out, 40 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: like Friday Fun Show working title, that's clear um our 41 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: new spotlight segment, same spotlights segment with a new name. 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: So that's a little tease get ready, I mean, Greg, 43 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: pinch yourself, I mean, one of the commenters says, after 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Thursday Night football another pandemic. It sounds like fun. I man, 45 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: that's going a little too far. So if you're alive 46 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: with us right now sending your questions during the show, 47 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: we will hit some of those throughout the episode. But 48 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: let's start yes as we must, because this job isn't 49 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: always fun, Just like rearing children, not always. There's responsibility, 50 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: and talking about the American football game played on Thursday 51 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: is an example. Let's go surveys, good protection, slides, fires, 52 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: broken up in the end zone. Gilmore on Shutton so 53 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year a couple of years back, 54 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: and somehow, some way, the Indian Athlist coach who took 55 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: their first lead of the game on that field goal, 56 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: pull out a twelve nine victory. Ah Michael speaks for 57 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: us all on Amazon. The final call on Russell Wilson's 58 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: incompletion in which he missed an open kJ Hamdler try 59 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: to stick it into Courtland Sutton, but Steph Gilmour said no, sir. 60 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: Final score Cults twelve Broncos nine. Overtime win for the 61 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Cults somehow impossibly engravers, like, are you kidding me? I'm 62 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: trying to win the a FC south over here, and 63 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I got the Cults picking up these garbage winds to 64 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: stay afloat as they try to figure themselves out. Let's 65 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: get to the Broncos in a BIX. I know, in 66 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: some ways they're the more compelling story, But Pat, let's 67 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: start with the Cults here, because it couldn't be is 68 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: It couldn't be any more ugly on offense, and yet 69 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: they found a way with some help from the quarterback 70 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: on the other side. Of course, Yeah, you go into 71 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: a game without Jonathan Taylor, you're losing offensive lineman Patrick 72 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: Sutan has m p J and absolute incarceration. Uh, there's 73 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: there's just nothing to offer other than some Alec Pierce, 74 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: a lot of Alec Pierce. Matt Ryan was chucking and ducking. 75 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: He had one super weird fade away barely across the 76 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage where it's like like, I don't know, guys, 77 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what we're doing here. Uh. 78 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: There was so much excitement coming into the season and 79 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: now it's like, Matt, are you okay? Like I was 80 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 1: legitimately word for Can I just say to that Patrick, 81 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: like I know exactly the there you're talking about. And 82 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: that was the one where I think I went to 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: Twitter and I said, we gotta get Matt Ryan in 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: a broadcast boots that because this feels like it's it's 85 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: setting up for disaster. It was, it was. It barely reached, 86 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: it barely crossed the line of scrimmage, like it was 87 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: almost intentional grounding, and there was there was no reason 88 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: for it. It was like a like a kind of 89 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: like fade away flying kick that was just so awkward 90 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: and uncomfortable. And that's that's how they won the game. 91 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: It was awkward and uncomfortable. They almost turned the ball 92 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: over two times in the game winning drive. But because 93 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: it was just it was not going right. The Broncos 94 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: were hemorrhaging, the hemorhaging defensive players, and Russ was just 95 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: it was a bad Russ game. It was a bad 96 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: Russ game, horrible, arguably the worst game he's ever played 97 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: in his career. And and and that's what happened. You 98 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: should have run the ball and fourth and one um 99 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: because there was so much conversation, It's like, oh, Nathaniel Hacket. 100 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: You you paid the quarterback all this money you gotta 101 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: and so it's like, yeah, okay, so here we're gonna 102 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: throw the ball, Like, just just run the balls fourth 103 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: and one. I think that was absolutely a reaction from 104 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: week one and all the criticism, although Hackett was quick 105 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: to point out after the game, we gave Russell Wells 106 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: and the option to run or past there, and the 107 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: run look, he thought wasn't great despite the fact that 108 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: they ran the ball fantastic their last couple of drives. 109 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: That was what was lost on it. Like Russell Wilson 110 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: hit on a fourth down that they went for the 111 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: drive before before he threw that interception that should have 112 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: won the game, and up until that fourth down, like 113 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: they had to run the ball straight down the field, 114 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: and they had moved the ball down the field there. 115 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: There were so many like unbelievably ugly moments where Russell 116 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: Wilson doesn't see the other receivers. But the game was 117 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: so bad that you're you're talking about here, Dan that 118 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: after the game, even the next day, Frank Reich was like, 119 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to feel about it, Like you 120 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: just won a game, you're two, two and one, you're 121 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, people are worrying about you getting fired, and 122 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: even Frank Reich is like, I don't know that was 123 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: so bad. I actually don't know how to feel about 124 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: a last second comeback from the jaws of defeat victory 125 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: Like Frank Wrek couldn't even enjoy it. I mean, I thought, Dan, 126 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: you you tweeted this, and I could not agree more 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: visually that Frank Reich um, it's probably this season. But 128 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: I thought from the first quarter through overtime aged visually 129 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: about seven years. I mean, he suddenly looked like an 130 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: old man, and I mean Quentin Nelson called it a 131 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: disgusting effort and Matt Ryan talked about how he's just 132 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: simply exhausted after the game. I mean, it's hard. You 133 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: can look at either side and say, I don't know 134 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: which team was more visually on appealing. But there's no 135 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: steaks for the Cults. In my book, what's happening with 136 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and the Broncos is there's no stakes. Because 137 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: here's the thing I'm saying, like, in general, the Cults, 138 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: I think I've said all along. I think the Cults 139 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: are like a good but not great team. I don't 140 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: even think they're good, So I'm not really concerned about 141 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: their um final destination, but the Broncos experience and that 142 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: there's nothing greater than the cutaways to the fans in 143 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: the stands like last night and every one of these 144 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: games that are just like this is what you sold 145 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: us all offseason, like who's who's at fault here? This 146 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: is like utter dumbness from at the outer reaches, Like 147 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: it's the most unwatchable football product we've seen in years 148 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: in Denver. That's saying something. I think that was one 149 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: of the it's certainly in the conversation for the worst 150 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: primetime game I could remember um and I thought I 151 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: was thinking about it when it was through. And we'll 152 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: get to more of the fans stuff a little bit 153 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: later in the show, but when it was through, you 154 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: got this sense that in terms of Denver's uh, where 155 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: they're at as a team, even when it looked like 156 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: they were gonna win the game, because the cults were 157 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: totally lost on offense, you could tell the Broncos and 158 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: the fans on the sideline no one was happy, but 159 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: it's like, we're gonna win this game, but we're not 160 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: gonna feel any better. About ourselves and there's gonna be 161 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: a lot of questions. And then when Rust throws the 162 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: second pick, which was brutal, and they give up the 163 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: field goal to tie it, and then can't get a 164 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: stop in overtime and then can't match it. That's kind 165 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: of the worst type of loss you could have, because 166 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: there's two types of brutal regular season losses. Let's keep 167 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: out like it knocked out of the playoffs in Week eighteen, 168 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: out of it, But there's the one where you suffered 169 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: some type of catastrophic injury to one of your best players, 170 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: and then you work your way through a game and 171 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: need lose the game on top of it. And then 172 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: there's a game like this where your your head, but 173 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: feelings are terrible and you know there's something broken about 174 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: what's going on here, but you're gonna win and get 175 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: out of it. And then you get caught from behind 176 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: and beating a game like this. And I don't know 177 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: how the Broncos recover from this where they're at right now, 178 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: because the vibes could not be worse around this team, 179 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: the coaching staff and of course the quarterback, who we 180 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: can't I know, it's everyone's piling on Russ right now. 181 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: But when you deliver a performance like that and you 182 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: start the season like this, Patrick, there's no way to 183 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: deny that his failures are a major part of the 184 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: reason the Broncos are one of the biggest bus in football. Absolutely, absolutely, 185 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: He's a part of it. Nathaniel Hackett's a part of it, 186 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon's fumbles absolutely a part of it. Uh. The 187 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: defense does not deserve this from the other side of 188 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: the ball, and the coaching staff they have been so good. 189 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: They lost a couple of guys last night. Are Garrett 190 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: Bowls lost last night as well? Card it off and 191 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: so it's it's like both of those bad case scenarios, Dan, 192 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: where you're talking about where you're a head and and 193 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: you somehow eke out of it, but everybody's worried. But 194 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: also you guys get hurt. Also, you losing heartbreaking fashion, 195 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: and it's like, where where are we going here? We're 196 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: committed now to this quarterback, We're committed to this situation. 197 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: How how how do you continue? And all you can 198 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: all you can really say is that the season is long, 199 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: the ball is not round, and a bunch of weird 200 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: stuff can happen and we've just seen it too many times. Right, Uh, 201 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: if you have talent, then you're not out of it. 202 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: And we've seen Russ do this. This is not like 203 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: this is Brian Horrier out here. We've seen Rust be 204 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: a good quarterback, so you can at least harken back 205 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: to that. But what we've seen this season, no, it's 206 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: been awful. It's been bad. We we've never seen him 207 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: at this level. I think he's shown hints of it 208 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. This is obviously him 209 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: in a new system, but he's been in a lot 210 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: of new systems. I mean, that's the thing is, we've 211 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: tried a million different systems to try to like figure 212 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: out where Russ's weaknesses in terms of throwing over the 213 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: middle and not seeing the whole field can match up 214 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: with his which is obvious strength. And now the weaknesses 215 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: are just like crazy there for everyone to see because 216 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: almost every single one of these third down throws where 217 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: he dumped it off like Alex Smith like at his 218 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: worst when it was like third and thirteen and he's 219 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: throwing at five yards like they almost immediately showed someone 220 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: wide open on the other side of the field and 221 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: Russ just didn't hit hit it. And there were like 222 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: four or five throws that weren't close to anyone that 223 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: were like way out of bounds or we're hitting like 224 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: a huge patch of grass where no one was there. 225 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: The most telling play to me was one where he 226 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: was scrambling around in the red zone forever and it 227 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh, here's the the old Russ, Like this 228 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: is kind of a crazy old Russ play. And then 229 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: at the very end of it, he just winged it 230 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: as fast as I as he could and it hit 231 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: the play clock and it just like hit the play 232 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: clock at the back of the ed zone and went 233 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: like clunk, And I was just what is happening here? 234 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: It's um like him and Ryan are two of the 235 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: worst starters in the league right now, and that's just 236 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: I just, even me, as a as a huge Russell 237 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Wilson skeptic, could not have expected anybody. Could you say? 238 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: The game became sort of beautiful in the sense that 239 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying like it was fun to watch, 240 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: but no Thursday football game this year has attached itself 241 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: to bigger talking points. At this point, we were watching 242 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's like entire career changed before our eyes over 243 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: the course of one night, and I'm wondering if you'll 244 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: ever return to what we thought or if this is 245 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: something If you're a broncos fing, you're thinking, we just 246 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: married the wrong person. We just signed up for this 247 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: guaranteed money for a long time, and if it doesn't 248 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: get better, this thing is going to become as ugly 249 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: as any story in the NFL. Might have married two 250 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: of the wrong people, right right, you got rid of 251 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: one of them. I think that's part of this this 252 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: story here, because I I also sense you could definitely 253 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: go down the road of Russ's washed or he's not 254 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: close to the same guy he was anymore anymore. And 255 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: now that the data and the stats, it's starting to 256 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: back it up. So it's like, okay, but he doesn't 257 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: look comfortable in this offense, and I still don't like 258 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: I hated that last play call, even though Handler did 259 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: flash wide open um. It just seems like the whole 260 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: SAM is out of whack. But it's also I think 261 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: to your point, Mark kind of open season. Russ is 262 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: a guy that people and we're not innocent in this, 263 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: Like we've long kind of poked fun at Russ and 264 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: and his public uh, the way he postures and the 265 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: way he presents himself, and sometimes it comes off as inauthentic. Uh. 266 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: And then you have on our own airways on NFL network, 267 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: I want to play, uh, Kyle Brand. This is an 268 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: example of like why this game, as bad as it 269 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: was to watch, is weirdly good for football because it 270 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: brings heat and it brings discussion. I think Russell Wilson 271 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: is one of the least authentic personalities we have in 272 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: this league. I think Russell Wilson is a poser, and 273 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he's a bad person. Actually think he's 274 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: a good person. I think he tries to be something 275 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: that he's not. And when you make the tune million dollars, 276 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: you either got to be a really great guy with 277 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: the locker room who loves you, or you've got to 278 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: be an amazing player. And then but he wasn't done. 279 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: He does not like Russell Wilson. Mr. Brand, you know 280 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: I got I worked the NFL Honors, I worked the 281 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: red carpet. Kelsey comes by Rogers comes, Russell Wilson shows 282 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: up with the sunglasses and his wife, and they I 283 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: think they think they're they're jay Z and Beyonce, and 284 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: they will literally put their hand up and say, no, 285 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: we're not talking. Why because you think you're that cool 286 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: and you're that famous and you're that amazing and everything 287 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: is so perfect. That does not work in the locker 288 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: room unless you were really good or really really good. 289 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: Guy Greg, we talked about in London the comparison and 290 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: how it feels similar a rod and Russell Wilson Alex 291 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: Rodriguez in baseball and Russell Wilson in football. There's just 292 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: something about this guy. So a game like that in 293 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: an island game where he sets himself on fire. It 294 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: was kind of the perfect stew for these type of reactions, right. 295 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: But including from their defense. Their defense is bowling out 296 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: there like a top three or four defense. Baron Browning 297 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: had one of the best games any pass rushers had 298 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: all season last night. He had ten pressures in five 299 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: QB hits in twenty one pass rushes. I've never heard 300 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: of such a thing like they were. They have been incredible. 301 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: They That actually gives me some hope for this Broncos 302 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: team because as bad as they've been, they look like 303 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: they have a top four or five defense. Um, but 304 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: we you know, we've been annoying people with Russell Wilson 305 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: takes for a while. Great, Great, I I got you 306 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: guys all upset last year with a take. Let's let's 307 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: listen to it. Justin Graver, Oh, Greg, I'm not I'm 308 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: not too high on Mac. I mean Russell Wilson right now. 309 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: To me, I don't want to be given up first 310 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: round a ton of first round picks for Russell Wilson 311 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: right now. During the game. I knew, I knew, and 312 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: I wish I had sent this to you guys on Twitter, 313 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: on on text. I knew Greg was going to replay 314 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: a Russell Wilson tirade from last season. I had no 315 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: I didn't even remember. This. Whole idea was do you want? 316 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: But it was it was a legitimate football argument because 317 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: it was the whole idea was would you trade a 318 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: ton of first round picks for Russell Wilson? And I 319 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: said no, I would not trade him for and almost 320 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: any of these first round picks at this point. I 321 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: think he's past that point of his career and I'd 322 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: take Mac Jones over Russell Wilson and you guys, and 323 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: you guys that all my I wouldn't have remembered it, 324 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: but I got a lot of mentioned. Listen, I am 325 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: you are, you're honest season left, You're you're on a 326 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: bit of a heat, or Greggy, and you deserve this 327 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: moment because Geno is balling out. Russell Wilson has sucked. 328 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: So I am not gonna say you shouldn't call that up. 329 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: That's good, good job by you, Greggy. Let's see. But 330 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: like Patrick just said, I want to see where we're 331 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: at at the end of this season. Um, because I 332 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: don't think Russ is this bad. I don't. I don't 333 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: think he's washed, but I will say, Nathaniel Hackett and 334 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: we should move on. But my last lot on this 335 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: game and then anybody else that wants a chime in. 336 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: I think he's on a hot seat already. I think 337 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen a lot. We've talked about this a 338 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: one and done coach. But if this is the way 339 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: this holds, and you have Russ under contract and it 340 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: doesn't work this year, first thing you're gonna do is 341 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: start over on the coaching staff. I would not be 342 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: surprised if that happens, if this stays the course, because 343 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: that would be ugly. Can I say one little thing 344 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: about Kyle bryand NFL honors that Dan you and I 345 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: used to cover that um and it was a chore, 346 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: let's be honest. But the first time I ever did 347 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: it was right after Russell Wilson's first season and I 348 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: waited around for thirty minutes um to to interview him, 349 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: and he couldn't. He It wasn't because of him that 350 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: I waited, It was just the way it went. He 351 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: couldn't have been nicer, kinder, more humble. He was a 352 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: totally different person. So to hear what happened with Kyle 353 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: brandon him, I think that speaks to the change of 354 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson experience and what he's done in his 355 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: life since then. I do think it's probably a nice person, 356 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of artificial substance going on there. 357 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Or it could have just been an accurate portrayal of 358 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: an event that took place, Like at any point somebody 359 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: could meet me and I could be a certain way 360 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: and they could say, all right, that's that's Patrick Claypon right. 361 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: The the idea that Russ is uniquely disingenuous when it 362 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: comes to NFL quarterbacks, it's kind of weird to me 363 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: because it's not like all of these guys are really 364 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: given us truth about how they feel about a given thing. 365 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: I think the other quarterback on the field being a 366 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: clear example of that last night as well. And it 367 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: kind of drops home the fact that we don't really 368 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: know any of these guys. And in terms of like 369 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: how it works in a locker room, Percy Harvin knocked 370 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: out his teammate and then they went out there and 371 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. If you execute, it doesn't matter, 372 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: Like people work with people that they don't like all 373 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: of the time, Like sometimes it just goes south. As 374 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: for why like Sherm and Doug Baldwin and all these 375 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: guys have such vist reolic energy for us when he 376 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: like threw a pick on the goal line, Like why 377 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: it's that intense, I don't really know, because I don't 378 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: know these people. And I think like it's very important 379 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: for all of us to remember that despite the interaction, 380 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: despite the exposure, despite the access that we have, we 381 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know these people. And I feel like sometimes 382 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: the pendulum swings back a little too hard and we're 383 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: really getting after us when he doesn't have like sexual 384 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: assault accusations. He's not lobbying for people to not take 385 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: a vaccine. He's not doing all these other things. People 386 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: are going like pretty hard on us right now, and 387 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: that is a clay bomb. Everybody get under the table, 388 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: duck for cover, because I'm with you too. I it. 389 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: But there's something about him that just whatever, for whatever reason, 390 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: makes him a target. And his game is also divisive, 391 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: and I think it always has been. I think there's 392 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: always been people that thought like that, if you're a 393 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: real football guy and you want quarterbacks to be a 394 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: certain way, like he's had these shortcomings and now they're 395 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: coming out a little more. I did want to just 396 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: support your point on the coach, Dan and point out 397 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: this ownership. If you're supporting my point, then go on. Yes, 398 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: this ownership did not hire Nathaniel Hackett. I think that's 399 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: really important in terms of the timeline. And they did 400 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: give Russell Wilson a somewhat unnecessary contract I would say 401 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: totally unnecessary. He had two years left on his contract 402 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: already making him one of the higher paid quarterbacks in 403 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: the league, and they extended that thing five more years 404 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: at a time that was unnecessary. But the ownership did 405 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: give him that money. They did not hire Nathaniel Hackett. 406 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: So I think that supports your Your Hackett could be 407 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: one and donec GC A good call, all right, before 408 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: we move on? UM, I thought the only true positive 409 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: to come out of Thursday night football was al Michaels, 410 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: who doesn't care, like there's nothing you can do. I 411 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: don't know how many billions of dollars is Amazon worth? 412 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: The bosses in the highest levels of American corporate society. 413 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: There is nothing anybody could tell seventy five year old 414 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: al Michael's on Friday morning. Oh, you've been too critical 415 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: of the game. We want to keep people engaged. Don't 416 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: tell them the product that is bad out don't care? Um, 417 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: So I wanna this is how I'll start with this. 418 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: Here's al Michael's calling the end of first half, field 419 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: go going to break? Well, what do you know? Six three? 420 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: We are back in a half minute. How about how 421 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: about an al Michael's? Uh real? How about that? Al 422 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: Michael's is annoyed? Real type game you you'd like to 423 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: have in the fifth regional one? Yes on some day. 424 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: Let's anyone think we couldn't find highlights? Who did six 425 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: three Denver at the half nine points time for the 426 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: third few is in the first half of the game 427 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: this season third ye forgive me for getting excited here. 428 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: We haven't seen a lot of at I get you 429 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: how I was like, Wow, I was beautiful. You know, 430 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm only half kidding, But sometimes the game can be, 431 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: at least at this point, so bad it's almost good, 432 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. No, okay, you know I'm 433 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: feeling that just I don't care. The game is like 434 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: sort of bad son. It's it's not good. Yeah, um, 435 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: good performance by Michael's, bad performance by everybody else connected 436 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: with the game. Hers like what Alison? Alison like this 437 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: great place in his career where you can't you can't 438 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: tell him nothing. Even even Roger Goodell, if he's watching 439 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: that broadcast like last night, I think he is laughing. Um, 440 00:21:52,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: all right, okay. It always goes on about six seconds 441 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: longer than I expect. Uh. It is time to Every 442 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: week week, each of us takes a turn. The flora 443 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: is ours. It is our time to shine in A 444 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: segment has been rechristened in the name of Chris Westling. 445 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: It's about me. It's about me, and I want to 446 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: talk about it's my turn, I want to talk about 447 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: fan entitlement. Um. I grew up in New York as 448 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: the rarest of birds, a fan of the Jets in 449 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: football and the Yankees in baseball. And I have lived 450 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: in opulence and I have lived in squalor as a fan. 451 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: My teen years, which are kind of the most formative 452 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: in sports fandom, featured a nine to two thousand stretch 453 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: where the Yankees won four World Series titles, and that 454 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: up for the Yankees has has slowed considerably this century. 455 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: But I get and I know that I'm entitled, that 456 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm blessed in that realm. The Yankees started another playoff 457 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: run on Tuesday. They haven't losing record since ninet. Then 458 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: there's my Jets fandom, which has included zero Super Bowl 459 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: appearances in forty two years on this planet and counting. 460 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: Uh and that's been the end to my Yankees yang. 461 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: I've lived on both sides of the coin, my friends. 462 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. And I bring this 463 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: up because the scene at Mile High last night, it 464 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: got on my radar a little bit. Broncos fans are pissed. 465 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: They booed their team after the first drive stalled in 466 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the red zone. Red zone. Uh that this has been 467 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: a common occurrence really since the beginning of the year. 468 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: The booze only got louder there as Denver stumbled through 469 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: one of the more grotesque offensive performances that we could remember. 470 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: And UM, well maybe the cults was somehow worse on Thursday, 471 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: but you get it, um, And the booing part is 472 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: fine to me. I know that not everyone believes in that, UM, 473 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: but I believe that's within a paying customers right to 474 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: express dissatisfaction where you pay. I've seen amounts of money 475 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: and then the performance doesn't seem to match what you 476 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: paid for what you're expecting. It's sports. But I do 477 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: take issue with the shot by Amazon of the stream, 478 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: the steady stream of Broncos fans exiting the building as 479 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: overtime was set to begin. UM, And I understand they 480 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: had every right to be disgusted by Denver's performance through 481 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: four quarters, but failing on a tie game at the 482 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: coin tosses to me the peak of fan entitlement. And 483 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: just a reminder, this is an organization with eight Super 484 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: Bowl appearances, tied with the Cowboys and Steelers for second 485 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: most all time, only behind the Patriots three Super Bowl wins, 486 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: including a Super Bowl fifty try amp in two thousand sixteen, 487 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: not too long ago. You're the team of John Elway. 488 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: You're the team on the right side of the history 489 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: for the drive and the fumble. You got the temporary 490 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: euphoria of two Tebowmania. You landed Peyton Manning in the 491 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: greatest free agent sweepstakes of all time. Even the Russell 492 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: Wilson trade, as bad as it looks right now, when 493 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: it happened, I can tell you from personal experience that 494 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: the havenots of football felt envy for a Broncos organization 495 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: that always seems to keep itself in the picture. And 496 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: now think about being a fan of the Jets or 497 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: the Browns, or the Commanders or the Chargers, or the 498 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: Texans or the Panthers or the Falcons or the Lions 499 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: or any other team that doesn't have a quarter of 500 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: the history, the glory, the juice of a Broncos fan. 501 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: So flow the team. Go ahead. Sure, they're playing like hell, 502 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: and you paid a lot of money to watch him, 503 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: that's whatever. But walking out on the team in a 504 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: tie game, entering all over time crime a river. You 505 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: should see how the other half lives. So the clapping 506 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: is the sound of the ruler hitting their knuckles or 507 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: get get back in the game. What are you doing 508 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: our our audio listeners really should check this show out 509 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: on YouTube because the stream of the viewer commenters uh 510 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: was was making me laugh and I enjoyed it and 511 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: it adds a lot to the I like Blake Wingo, 512 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: old man yells at cloud whatever, Blake, it's it's old 513 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: man yells at crowd. I like that. Yeah, it's a 514 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: it's hard, it's a hard over time. That's a tough, 515 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: tough spot. I uh, I'm with you, although I do 516 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: think uh as someone who's lost a little bit of 517 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: juice after seeing their team reached the absolute pinnacle. Uh. 518 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: You know, once you've seen the mountains, once you've seen 519 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 1: the very best, it's like, we'll probably never gonna get 520 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: there again. It's hard to get get the engines reven 521 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: IM with you, Dan, like I you know, I lived 522 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: in Denver for years, and I do think in general, 523 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: the Broncos fans historically have been like a top five 524 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: fan base, um and not ultra annoying, to be honest, 525 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: like I, I just think they're passionate. I kind of 526 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: take a um issue with what I saw last night too, 527 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: as you do. But I kind of think what's happened 528 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: with the broncos um Their games have been so public 529 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: U the crowd reaction from the minute that they started 530 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: counting down the play clock. I mean, all this stuff 531 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: has almost become like a public circus and colosseum to 532 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: go and react to the team this way, And I 533 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,719 Speaker 1: think that you wouldn't have in another game of this nature. 534 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: The crowd shots and the and the camera selection that 535 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: they use from the very beginning, this thing started to 536 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: really stink up the joint. But leaving I'm with you two. 537 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: I think, if you're in overtime, what are you doing? 538 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: How everyone knows? Like I had, I had a friend 539 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: whose dad took his sons to Game six of the 540 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: Mets Red Sox World Series and they left early. And 541 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: that's on you for the rest of your life. So 542 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: you just I'm not saying this this game was a disaster, 543 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: but like you don't fail if you're in the stadium 544 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: in overtime. I'm with you on that. Uh, let's check 545 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: in with the people watching live. Any questions comments, Hit 546 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: it up Grave Digger J Tweeter asked, where does last 547 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: Night rank in the pampion of horrific games? You know, Greg, 548 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: you're very good at this stuff. I know there's been 549 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: a lot of bad ones. Thursday Night has been the 550 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: home of a lot of bad games. Is there one 551 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: that kind of sticks out to you? Is somehow worse 552 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: than this? No, because it didn't cross over into this 553 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: so bad it's good realm, which are the ones I enjoy? 554 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: Like so ugly it's good. I think the fact that 555 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: there's these two like potential Hall of Fame quarterback like 556 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: it made it unfun. It never got to the fun place. 557 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: Even Al said that at one point, like they were like, yeah, 558 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: it just was sad. Like my kids. My kids are 559 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: starting to get into watching sports now. Jack's turned a 560 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: and Harry is five and a half six and he 561 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: just likes what his brother likes. And I actually they 562 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: were a time for their bath. And sometimes I'll tell Emily, 563 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: I'll be like, let him let him watch the end 564 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: of the game, And this case, I was like, no, 565 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: there's not to be gained here from them watching this game. 566 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: It was just kind of a sad, sad game. What 567 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: else have we got? Dan? This is from Greg Scamado. Uh, 568 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: just double g there, Greggy Dan, How early is it 569 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: to call a team more abund are the Panthers? There? Now? 570 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Usually moribund. It's more a feel. There's no designation, but 571 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: it usually comes in the second half of the season 572 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: when there's no hope. Hope has to be totally lost 573 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: for a team to be more abund On the flagship program, 574 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Justin Swanson s who's the worst to win team? Uh? Patrick, 575 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: you got this one? Rams, Jets Broncos. Oh that's who? 576 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: Well you got a couple of you got it's Matt 577 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: Stafford hurt right now, I'm a lean Rams like he's 578 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: he was spraying the ball. Uh nothing that that Russell 579 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: spraying the ball? But almost kind of. Yeah, I think 580 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: the Jets are are better to win team considering the 581 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: opponents right now. Perhaps, I mean, maybe I'll feel different after, 582 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Cooper Rush the slippers come off a 583 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, I'll go with the Rams right here, 584 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: all right? Jonathan Webster, Greg what's the story behind the 585 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: owl painting behind you? That's a good one to um my. 586 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: My grandfather, Heinz Rosenthal, painted that. I don't know if 587 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: there's much more of a story true than yeah, you 588 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: know he was. He was a painter. And we've got 589 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: many many And the reason why this one's out is 590 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: my daughter loves owls and I've rotated what's you know? 591 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: And so it's been out in the house for the 592 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: last few years. Where's your artwork? You have something going on? Quietly, 593 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: I am not artistically inclined. Unfortunately, I'm a huge disappointment 594 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: in that realm. I tried. I was always terrible. My 595 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: brother's a you know, virtual music streamly talented musician. I 596 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: always wanted that, but it's not in me. It's not 597 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: in me. Absolutely. He was also in a prog rock 598 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,239 Speaker 1: uh ska band, so he has musical talent as well. 599 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: I was also best director one act plays um My 600 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: my freshman year in high school. How about that? There 601 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: you go. Robbie asks question for the heroes. Mark, I 602 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: want you to handle this one. Would you all change 603 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 1: your preseason playoff predictions at this quarter point through the year. No, 604 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with I'm gonna stick with what I picked. 605 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: I also don't recall what I picked, so it would 606 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: be in a strange exercise thing, right, I would stick 607 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: with it because for the same reason. I don't want 608 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: to go check, but I'm pretty sure I had the 609 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Colts and Broncos in the playoffs. Probably change that. I'm 610 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: feeling good I got I got the Eagles over the 611 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Super Bowl. I want this thing to 612 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: throw to another clip. Greg in Nugget Junior. In honor 613 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: of last night's game, can we get a quarter season 614 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: pain Pain rankings? Um? I would have to think about 615 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: that one. So no. Next, that's just that's pretty. That's 616 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: off the top of my dome. But thank you Nugget Jr. 617 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: And I like your avatar looks like a nice mustache. 618 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: Avery Boum is Russ the new line on the Dalton Scale. No, 619 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: that's a that's he. He wouldn't be because he's always 620 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: been above it, and now right now I think it's 621 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: fair to say he's well below it for the way 622 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: he's played this year. He's sinking. He's sinking his team. 623 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: So the Dalton scale guy has to be someone who's, 624 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, nice and steady right towards the middle. I 625 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: think Kirk Cousins is settling into Santana Hill. Maybe. Al Right, 626 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: it is time now for the Greg Rosenthal Week five 627 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: Injury Watch presented by Akrasher, a non FDA approved supplement 628 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: for men seeking to shed man boobs in middle age. 629 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: I could I could use that send me a little Accrasher. Uh. 630 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett looks like he's back. Not on the injury report. 631 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney, though, is a questionable. Brian Robinson looks like 632 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: he will be playing just about five weeks after getting 633 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: those two gunshots in his leg. He practiced on Friday. 634 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: That will be confirmed later in the week. Daniel Jones 635 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: is starting that game over in London. That's good, but 636 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: he will be without Kenny Golladay, ked Arias, Tony Wandel, Robinson. 637 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: Jay Alexander will be back for the Packers in that game, 638 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: which is great news. I thought he might be out 639 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: a little while. Za Jones is back for the Jaguars 640 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: this week. Kyle Pitts is out, get him out of 641 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: your fantasy lineup. A monros st Brown was back in 642 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: practice Friday, might play for the Lions. Isaiah Mackenzie has 643 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: a concussion still in the protocol. Dawson Knox is out, 644 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: so the Bills are rather shorthanded on both sides of 645 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: the ball, and your lock is looking pretty good. Dan 646 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: No Sam Cosmi. For the Washington Commanders, they're missing three 647 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: starting offensive line and you're also missing John Dotson who's 648 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: out with a hamstring. I like the Titans in that 649 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: game too. I kind of like the move potentially. And 650 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: I Greg, I know when you were in your heyday 651 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: picking games. I think you were someone who liked to 652 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: do this. Find a team that you know sucks, and 653 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: then any time there in the lock zone, you just lock. 654 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: I might just lock against Washington ten times between now 655 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: in January, we'll see. I'll be my fourth time in 656 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: five weeks locking against the Cardinals. So I'm I'm two 657 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: and one so far. We'll see if that works out. 658 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: That's your thing, that's your move. Al Right, before we 659 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: say goodbye, let's do our hero picks are going to 660 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: uh first cycle. Back to last week, Mark you said 661 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson, what was the prediction of Zack. I really 662 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: was just sort ofgg egging him on to rise up 663 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: to the challenge, be a hero, guide the Jets to 664 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: victory and change the way we think about him. And 665 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: I think he did that. Check the box. It's a 666 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: it's a hard check. That's a hard check. Big old 667 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: green check mark for Cecy Greg you had Ryan Tannehill 668 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: would do well or something along with those lines. I'm 669 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: taking me ul They were three and a half point underdogs. 670 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: They won the game. I thought he played well, I 671 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: mean taking the w. I had Andy Dalton would play 672 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: well in London and then be able to leverage that 673 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: into holding onto the Saints. Job man if will lets 674 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: his field goal goes through the uprights and then they 675 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: win in overtime and then he wins again, maybe, but 676 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: that's not how it played out. And yeah, but two 677 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: good quarters was not my prediction. I predicted a win 678 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: and high level play. So I'll take the l there 679 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: all right? Now Week five predictions before we say goodbye, 680 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: Patrick Clayburn, you're not even a guest to me. You 681 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: are a member of the A T N family, so 682 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: we always like you said, you've almost said it all, 683 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: but you need to share your prediction for Week five. Yeah, 684 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: let's get let's get bold people in this fantasy world. 685 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: We're frustrated about Travis e tims production. He gets in 686 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: the end zone twice to Texas. Two touchdowns for Travis 687 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: e Tia beautiful. I like that um and its result based. 688 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: The Jets are going to beat Miami I ten plus points. 689 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is gonna You're all over the gym. This 690 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: is just what I saw this morning. Zach Wilson plus yards, 691 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: four touchdowns and this part two, the Falcons are gonna 692 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: beat the Bucks by ten plus points and not even 693 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: make it look close. All you just made that really 694 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: hard on yourself, but I admire the moxie. Greg Rosenheald, Alright, 695 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: my prediction is just that Travis Kelsey rex shop against 696 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: the Raiders. It's like all these other tight end come 697 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: along lately. So Darren Waller is going to be the future. Oh, 698 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is going to be the future. Oh, Like, 699 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: here's this guy, this guy who's still the best tight 700 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: end in the freaking NFL. It's Travis Kelsey. He's on 701 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: pace to have one of his very best seasons ever. 702 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. Still he's still got the championship. Wait, what 703 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: is that? But because this was Hero the week, he's 704 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: the hero. He's the hero. The sun's gonna rise in 705 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: the east. What does that mean that he's going to 706 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: be How do we decide whether that does he need 707 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: to win the game or what I mean, you're not 708 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: giving Ryan Tannehill from a week ago. That's bs. I 709 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: just checked this PFF score. It's seventy. That's over the 710 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: bar of Like, Yeah, you were pretty darn good. A right, 711 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you have so many things going your way, Greg, 712 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: right now, between Geneo and Russ. Like Tony Soprano once said, 713 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: you got to Virginia hams under each arm and your 714 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: crime poverty, I will go with I don't like this one. 715 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: This one's not positive. But the more were the closer 716 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: we get to Sunday, the more I hate the Detroit 717 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: Lions going in New England. I think Bill Belichick, even 718 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: with a compromised offensive situation at quarterback, sees holes all 719 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: over that he could exploit an attack. And I'm predicting 720 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: two hundred plus rushing yards for the Patriots and a 721 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 1: win that drops the team of a t N into 722 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: moribund territory. Oh, this is the fun show, Dann right 723 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: around in the NFL. It's gonna be fun for Greg 724 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: and all the other Patriots minions. This is um, this 725 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: is Dan's like move. I remember I used to do 726 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: this quite often with teams of around the NFL. He 727 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: would never really get on board, and he would pick 728 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: against them regularly, pump the brakes. I love the lines. 729 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: I did a whole Hard Knocks podcast on them. I 730 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: I really you delitely believe that they were gonna lose 731 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: and not put it out into the universe. On the show, 732 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: you could choose anything. I want to change my prediction now, 733 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: I want to change my prediction now, Jared three touchdowns 734 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: lins good? You know what I'll trade that. I'd rather 735 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: be wrong than right. But I'm just saying it's just 736 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: the feeling. It's in the air, and I don't love it. 737 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: I do love everyone that came and join us on 738 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: the Friday Fund Show working title today. Thank you for 739 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: following along with everything we do. Next time you see 740 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: us on NFL Network, it will be our preview show, 741 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,319 Speaker 1: which they put on the network every Saturday morning, and 742 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: then Sunday the flagship program recapping everything that happened in 743 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: the Sunday that was an hour check out at Lebon 744 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: and I on game debut to Friday afternoon, we'll be 745 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: picking some games the way people are saying, Greg on 746 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: your Kelsey prediction, you did not hang on into you 747 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: hung shallots. So I don't you know, take that into 748 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: your weekend. Well, I'm over four, so I need I 749 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: need something tiny gonds until Sunday heat. The call