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Well, I don't know, 83 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: but I just got an order from Big Cis that 84 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: from now on, this podcast must be done entirely by 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: singing Broadway show tunes. Oh is that is a fate 86 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: worse than cancelation, Big Cis, I suspect you're referring to 87 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: is Nina Jankowitz, the Biden pick to lead the Disinformation 88 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: Governance Board, about whom I know only two things. One 89 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: she spread misinformation about the Hunter Biden laptop, and two 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: she loves singing show tunes on camera. And to a credit, 91 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: she's actually a pretty good singer. It's a little bizarre 92 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: and creepy what she sings, but she I don't know 93 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: as a professional or semi professional singer. But she's this 94 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: hard knee jerk leftist. And you know watching number one 95 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: Secretary may orchis who has presided over the most lawless 96 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: cabinet agency in the history of our country, which the 97 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security has decided we don't enforce the border. 98 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: We let two million illegal aliens come in. The law 99 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: means nothing to US. So now he's created this misinformation 100 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: board in charge of fighting misinformation, and you know you 101 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: pointed out he did it literally within hours of Elon 102 00:05:55,800 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 1: Musk's buying Twitter. It is stunning. Listen, the left ideas 103 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: are crap. They cannot defend them. They don't want to 104 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: defend them. They want to silence everyone who disagrees. I mean, 105 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: let's show you something amazing about Elon buying Twitter, which 106 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: is Twitter accepted Elon Musk's offer to buy Twitter on 107 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: April twenty fifth. The very next day, literally the next day, 108 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: April twenty sixth, my new Twitter followers skyrocket. So I'm 109 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: just gonna read you the daily count of it, because 110 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: it's stunning. So on April nineteenth, I gained one seventeen 111 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen followers. April twenty fourth, one four hundred 112 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: and eighty six. April twenty fifth, the day Twitter says 113 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: yes to Elon Musk one thousand, two hundred and fourteen. 114 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: So consistently, day after day, I'm between a thousand and 115 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: two thousand new followers the next day. What's your guest 116 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: is to how many new followers I got the next day, 117 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it doubled at least on April twenty 118 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: twenty sixth fifty one thousand, four hundred and five, April 119 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: twenty seventh, sixty one thousand, two hundred and fifty one, 120 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: on April twenty eighth, seventy thousand, five hundred and eighty four. 121 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: The level of shadow banning, it's as if And by 122 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: the way, this is true for conservatives across the board 123 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: that they're seeing their numbers. Mine literally went from one 124 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: to two thousand a day to fifty sixty seventy thousand. 125 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: I've gone from four point eight million followers to five 126 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: point one million followers in a week, and all it 127 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: took was Elon buying it. This is the same thing 128 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: has happened with me. I am not a United States senator, 129 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: I have not run for president. I am but a 130 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: humble podcaster. I've gained at least one hundred thousand followers 131 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: in the what is a week since Elon took over, 132 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: It's been something like a clip of twenty thousand per day. 133 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: So either that means that they've unleashed the bots, which 134 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it is, by the way, because my 135 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: engagement on Twitter is up. I'm seeing new people new 136 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: blue checkmark people who are ostensibly verified human beings. It 137 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: seems as though because don't forget, this deal hasn't even 138 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 1: gone through yet, so it's just the threat that Elan 139 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: is going to buy it. It seems as though this 140 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: has lifted a major shadow banning of conservatives. You know, 141 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: it's like they're sitting there running the shredders, going oh crap, 142 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: they're going to find out all the stuff we've done 143 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: shred at all, turned the algorithm off, and then within 144 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: hours the Biden administration announces we have a new board 145 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: to fight misinformation. I gotta tell you I had so 146 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: this week. I've had two hearings where I've asked Biden 147 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: officials about this. First of all, I had a Foreign 148 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: Relations Committee hearing with the Deputy Secretary of State. Okay, 149 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: so ma Orchus got popped on Sunday about this, and 150 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: he says, no, no no, no, this is not to go 151 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: after American speech. This is all about foreign speech. This 152 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: is foreign disinformation only. Now, mind you, this office is 153 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: not at the US Department of State, It's at the 154 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: Department of Homeland Security. It's directed at Americans in the homeland. 155 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: But their talking point is no no, no, this is 156 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: only foreign disinformation. So I asked the Department of State today, 157 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: the Deputy Secretary of State, I said, it so happens. 158 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: There actually is a long standing office at the State 159 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Department whose statutory mission is to fight disinformation abroad from 160 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: foreign governments, and it's funded. Congress just funded them one 161 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars. It's statutory mission is exactly 162 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: what these clowns are claiming the new office is going 163 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: to do. So I asked the State Department, gush, did 164 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: anybody talk to you about this? No? Do you know 165 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: anything about it? No? I have no idea. Is it 166 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: concerning to you that they've announced a new office that 167 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: they're claiming is doing the same thing your existing office 168 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: is doing. I have no idea. Nobody consulted us. We 169 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: know nothing. So that was lie number one. Number two. 170 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: We also had Pete boodhag Edge, the Secretary of Transportation, 171 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: testifying before the Senate today, and I asked him about this, 172 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: and I said, look, I read a quote from the 173 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: presidential campaign where he gave he waxed poetically about free 174 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: speech is wonderful, it's incredible, It's what makes America America. 175 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: I value free speech. When I was a soldier fighting 176 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: for America, the flag on my shoulder, it represented free speech. 177 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 1: It was you know, he's a pretty eloquent guy. And 178 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: I read the whole quote. I said, you know, gosh, 179 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: I agree with every word of that. That's beautifully stated. 180 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: Do you still agree with that? Do you still agree 181 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: with free speech? Yes? Well, then why did the Biden 182 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: administration announce an office, the Ministry of Truth to silence 183 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: people who disagree with you? And he immediately backtracks. He's like, well, well, well, 184 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Like, well, come on, 185 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're aware of this, right, And he's like, well, well, well, 186 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. But it's to stop disinformation, to stop 187 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. I said, really, like Hunter Biden's laptop. Is 188 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: that what you mean by disinformation? He's like, well, I 189 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: don't know anything about Hunter Biden's laptop. It's like, oh, really, 190 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: nobody seems to know anything about Hunter Biden's laptop, do they. Well, 191 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: and in this case, the woman who's going to be 192 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: running the Ministry of truthier for Biden, used that specific example, 193 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: so this is not just a hypothetical. She said, the 194 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop was a case of Russian disinformation, and 195 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: so presumably this board would have completely wiped away that 196 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: news story, had Big Tech and the the establishment media 197 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: not already done that for them two years ago. Now 198 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. And as you know, the talking point, 199 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: there were fifty former leaders from the intelligence community community 200 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: that put out a letter when Hunter Biden's laptop broke 201 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: that said, this has all the classic signs of Russian disinformation, 202 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: which we've learned now is code for this is really 203 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: bad for the Democratic presidential nominee. But we now know 204 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: that letter was an outright blatant lie. We know the 205 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: talking point that that that I don't know whether we 206 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: should call Nina the Minister of Truth or the commissary. 207 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm kind of on the fence as to what her 208 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: tatalitarian titles should be. But she was out there pushing 209 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: this is Russian disinformation, and that's an uttered lie. And 210 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: leftists define as disinformation anything that is inconvenient for them, 211 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: anything they disagree with, and especially anything that is politically 212 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: damaging they call disinformation. And this is the Biden administration 213 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: nakedly getting getting caught with their hand in the cookie 214 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: jar to mix my metaphors pretty badly. I'm going to 215 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: upset my Yale colleague here with with that rather mangled illusion. 216 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: That is exactly the kind of thing that the new 217 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: censorship board is going to censor, the mixing of metaphors. 218 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: And that's that's a wonderful thing. There's a little silver 219 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: lining in that storm cloud, Senator. The White House has 220 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: given two examples of the kind of thing that the 221 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: board is going to shut down. That is calls to 222 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: violent extremism and as you say, foreign disinformation, specifically Russian disinformation. 223 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: And the problem it would seem to me is that 224 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: the White House accuses everything that Republicans say of being 225 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: a called to violent extremism or Russian disinformation. So we're 226 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: joking about it. It's absurd, and it's funny to make 227 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: fun of this, this power hungry lady and the whole 228 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: bind administration. But what are they going to do? And 229 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: what are we going to do about it? Look, it 230 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: is so bad that this week Jake Tapper from CNN 231 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: was forced to go on TV and acknowledge, Yeah, she 232 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: does really seem to be a partisan where she echoes 233 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: the Democratic talking points and she's skeptical of everything Republicans say, 234 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: and there's a clear political bias in her take on things. 235 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: Now when Jake Tapper, who has become a mouthpiece for 236 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: the hard left, he didn't used to be, but he's 237 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: become that. When even he says that, like, holy cow, 238 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: So what are we going to do about it? Listen? 239 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: I think one thing we're doing about it, we're doing 240 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: right now, which is just shining enough of a light 241 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: on it that it prevents them from going forward. I 242 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: do think you're seeing the Biden administration backpedaling. There's been 243 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: enough of a blowpack. I actually think labeling it the 244 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Ministry of Truth is really powerful, because look, obviously there 245 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: are communist regimes that have ministries of truth and and 246 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: that throw you in the gulag for daring to speak 247 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: other than than the government line and calling this out 248 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: for what it is. My hope is that that that we, 249 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, cut it off right at the beginning. If not, 250 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: then there's a reason why I asked about it twice 251 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: this week to two different Biden officials, because I want 252 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: to keep the pressure on. I want to keep the 253 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: light on. I want to force them to defend this, 254 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: this ridiculous abuse of power. And if they continue to 255 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: try to go forward with it next year, I believe 256 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: we're going to have majorities in both the House and 257 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: send it. We had to use the majorities in the 258 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: House and send it to cut off the funding and 259 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: to shut it down because the government has no business 260 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: silencing what the American people say. I don't think the 261 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: timing is coincidental. It's just too perfect, right after we've 262 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: been joking about it. But I think I think it's legit. 263 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Right after Elon Musk announces this, you get the announcement 264 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: from the White House. So then turning to Musk, do 265 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: you think this deal is going to go through? One? 266 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: And two? What does that mean for conservatives on social media? 267 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Whether we're talking about how the other big tech platforms 268 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: are going to react, or whether we're talking about how 269 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: the government is going to react. Joe Biden is already 270 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: talking about clamping down on Twitter the minute they free 271 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: up speech for conservatives. Yeah. And by the way, the 272 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: European Union is rattling its swords and reminding Twitter we 273 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: have rules to follow. Look, I think the deal is 274 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: going to go through. I don't know for sure. I 275 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: don't know the inside details of the deal. But Elon 276 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: seems very committed and certainly vocally committed. The board has 277 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: accepted it. According to the public reporting, he had financing lockdown. 278 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: The financing may change in terms of the mix of 279 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: debt and equity. That wouldn't surprise me. But it certainly 280 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: seems like it's going forward. You know, I will say 281 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: there is an irony that Elon Mosque has suddenly become 282 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: the champion and the defender of conservatives. Elon vocally supported 283 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: and voted for Barack Obama not once, but twice. You know, 284 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan the other person who has become that They 285 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: may be the two most important people concerning free speech 286 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: in the entire country, Joe Rogan and Dorris Bernie Sanders. 287 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: So neither one of them meets the standard definition of 288 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: a conservative, but they both appreciate liberty. They both value 289 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: free speech. You know, it's spoke volumes. I don't know 290 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: if you saw last week a journalist at Time magazine 291 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: and I put journalists in scare quotes, said that free 292 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: speech is an obsession of rich white guys like the 293 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: today's corporate media wants to silence everybody except themselves. They 294 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: want to have a monopoly on speech, only the corporate 295 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: media and only big tech. And I know you've seen 296 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: the meme that that Elon tweeted out, which I think 297 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: is incredibly accurate, that it showed him previously where you 298 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: had the right, the left, the center, and it had 299 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: him left of center, and then what it showed was 300 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: the left running full speed to the left, and suddenly 301 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: the center moved, so he was right of center. But 302 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: in the meme he hadn't moved an end. Shit's just 303 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: the crazies had taken over the Democratic Party. By the way, 304 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: Bill Maher's in the same boat, where these are old 305 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: school liberals that just happened to believe in actual liberty, 306 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: and that in today's Democratic Party that is not only 307 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: not the mainstream anymore, that is a heretical view that 308 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: must be demonized and quashed. What do you think the 309 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: electoral politics of this look like. Do you think that 310 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: this plays for Democrats? Do you think this ministry of 311 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: truth is going to help them in the mid terms, 312 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: whether through the operation of the agency or just through 313 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: the public perception of it. Or are they stepping on 314 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: a rake here? I think they're stepping on a rake. 315 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: But a word you use there that is important and 316 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: that we don't know yet is operation like whether this 317 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: board will actually have any legal power or authority if 318 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: they engage how they intend to engage, if it's just 319 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: a look an example, an example we've talked about early 320 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 1: on when it happened on this podcast was doctor Fauci 321 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: in emails asking Mark Zuckerberg to silence and censor any 322 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: discussions of the origins of COVID nineteen, and in particular 323 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: discussions that it had escaped from a Chinese government lab 324 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: in Wohan. And we talked about two years ago. This 325 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: podcast walked through exhaustively the evidence that suggests and suggest 326 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly that COVID nineteen escape from a Chinese government lab 327 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: in Wuhan. Zuckerberg was more than happy to comply. He said, yes, 328 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: we will censor it, we will keep it silent. I 329 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: could see this board playing a similar role and for example, 330 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: emailing Zuckerberg and and Facebook going along. I don't know 331 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: whether there are media outlets that will go along. I 332 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: feel confident Elon Musk won't go along. And it's why 333 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: his buying Twitter is so important, because it creates a 334 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: significant avenue by the way, one thing people may not 335 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: realize as to why Twitter matters so much. So so 336 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: a tiny percentage of Americans actually listen follow Twitter, and 337 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: those that do skew pretty heavily left. If the world 338 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: were the Twitter sphere, we'd all be screwed. It would 339 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: be sunk. Yeah, you know, AOC would be president. So 340 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad that the world is not the Twitter sphere. Now, 341 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: some of that is is amplified by the shadow banning 342 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: and practices, so we may find out that the Twitter 343 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: sphere is not as left as it appears. But most 344 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: normal Americans are not on Twitter. The reason it matters, 345 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: One of the reasons it matters so much is every 346 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: reporter in the universe is on Twitter. And so I 347 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: could tell you in politics, frankly, the way you get 348 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: out a statement and get it out quickly as you 349 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: go to Twitter and you put it out, and it's 350 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: an amazing thing. Look, Donald Trump pioneered this in twenty sixteen, 351 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: and I was on the opposing side, and he captured 352 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: how to use Twitter and just dominate the news within instances. 353 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: And it is a wild thing that I will pull 354 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: out my phone and I'll send a tweet and within 355 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: minutes I can turn on the TV and see my 356 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: tweet on the news, driving the news and driving messaging. 357 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: That's part of why free speech on Twitter matters, because 358 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: it influences everyone that has outlets of communication that is 359 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: potent for the overall public discourse. Right. I agree, it 360 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: does set the news in a way that Facebook and 361 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: YouTube and Google don't. I think that's why they are 362 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: absolutely losing it that Elon is promising conservatives a little 363 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: more freedom on this question of political speech. I am 364 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: ashamed to say that I have neglected our Verdict listeners, 365 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: but I will do that no more. There's a question 366 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: I really want to get to here in the mail bag. 367 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: You of course can join Verdict plus over on locals, 368 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: the Verdict plus community, and you can subscribe to Verdict 369 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. This question comes to us 370 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: from Al who says, Senator Cruz, how do you think 371 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: the court will rule on Ted Cruz versus fec A 372 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: question not only about political speech, but about a case 373 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: that you are heavily involved in. Yeah. No, it's a 374 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: case I care a great deal about. It is a 375 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: case challenging, and I'm the name plainiff. I brought the lawsuit. 376 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: It is challenging an element of McCain finegold, which is 377 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: the big campaign finance law. It's a terrible law. One 378 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: element of the law limits the ability of a political 379 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: candidate to pay themselves back for loans they make to 380 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: their campaign. And so it caps it at paying yourself 381 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: back at two hundred and fifty thousand dollars is the 382 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: most you can pay yourself back from funds received after 383 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: the campaign. And so you know, you have lots of 384 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: candidates who put their life savings into into a campaign, 385 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: and they may put five hundred thousand or more into 386 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: a campaign, and McCain finegold says, well, tough, you're not 387 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: allowed to pay yourself back. You've just basically given a 388 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: gift to democracy. And doesn't it suck to be you? 389 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, the reason that Congress passed it, 390 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: if you go look at the debates, it's an incumbent 391 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: protection plan because one of the ways incumbents avoid being 392 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: beat is their challengers raise any money and they don't 393 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: have the name idea to raise money. And so what 394 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: happens often as someone will invest their own money into 395 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: the race, and it is how challengers get the initial 396 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: oxygen to get their message out, well, if you make 397 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: it that. You know, Michael, you put your money into 398 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: the race, and even if you win, you can't get 399 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: it back, and it's going to cost you. You might 400 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: be willing to do it, but a lot of people 401 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: are not. And so it's designed to protect incumbents from 402 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: challengers taking them on. So I brought a constitutional challenge 403 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: to this provision. I want a unanimous decision in the 404 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: lower courts. So a three judge district courts struck down 405 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: this provision of McCain fine Gold. The appeal is pending 406 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: at the Supreme Court. It's been briefed, it's been argued. 407 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: We're waiting on the decision. I think the decision will 408 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: be very soon. It could literally be any day now. 409 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: I think we're in the sweet spot of when the 410 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: decision is going to come down. I am cautiously optimistic. 411 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: I think the chances are good that we prevail if 412 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 1: the court addresses the merits. In other words, if the 413 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: court answers the question is this provision of law unconstitutional? 414 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: I think the odds are extremely high we win. I 415 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: think it is on the merits we are very very 416 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: likely to win. There is some chance that we lose 417 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: on a procedural ground. That Biden Justice Department had a 418 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: procedural ground that was a technicality that was based on 419 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: a factual mistake. But I will say it the oral argument, 420 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: it sure seemed like John Roberts was fishing around trying 421 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: to get some justices to basically throw the lawsuit out 422 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: on the procedural ground. I don't know if he will 423 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: succeed with that or not, but that's how the argument 424 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: came across. So if they get to the merits, we 425 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: are very very likely to win, but there's some chance 426 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: they punted and avoid the merits altogether. Perhaps I will 427 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: be nicer to Chief Justice Roberts on this show for 428 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: just the next couple of weeks to make sure this 429 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: thing doesn't get thrown out on dural grounds, because that 430 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: would be an interesting free speech case and we'll look 431 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: forward to seeing it. Last question also has to do 432 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: with the court. This is from Michael, who says, how 433 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: do you believe the leak of the Alito opinion in 434 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: the Dobbs case? How do you believe the Supreme Court 435 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: leak will affect the midterm elections? And he has two hashtags. 436 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: He says, hashtag verdict hashtag cruise twenty twenty four, just 437 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: reading the whole message. So I don't know that the 438 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: league itself has a significant impact on the midterms. I 439 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: do think the League is a manifestation of how the 440 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: Democrats are destroying our institutions, trying to burn them down, 441 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: and in particular the degree to which the leftists are 442 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: cheering it on and literally saying burn it down. I 443 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: think that is beneficial for the midterms, and in terms 444 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: of people realizing the radicals really are in charge of 445 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: this party. It's it's not unlike the Antifa riots ins 446 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: of just showing that these guys are extreme and crazy. 447 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: In terms of the underlying decision, I think what is 448 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: likely to be more consequential in the midterm is the 449 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: decision itself and if the majority opinion continues to be 450 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: the majority opinion, and if the outcome is that the 451 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: Court does strike down roversus Wade. I can tell you 452 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Democrats in Washington are holding onto that as their Hail 453 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: Mary chance to save the midterms. They believe that people 454 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: will be horrified and that'll help them win. And I 455 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: gotta tell you more than a few Republican senators are nervous. 456 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: That's the case. There are several of us who are 457 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: conservatives who've been trying to make the case to the 458 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: nervous nellies in our conference It'll be okay, this is 459 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: going to be fine. And I actually think it probably 460 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: will not have much of an effect on the midterms, 461 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: and to the extent it has an effect, it will 462 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: be a positive effect. Here's why I think it will 463 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: have less of an effect than the democratic strategist think 464 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: because the people who are most dismayed about that are 465 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: hard leftists that are clustered in bright blue states like 466 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: New York California. Nothing's going to change in those states, 467 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: at least for the immediate term. California is going to 468 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: continue to allow unlimited abortion on demand. ROVERSUS weight is 469 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: if it's struck down, California ain't changing their laws until 470 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: we get new elected officials in California. And so I 471 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: think the kind of angry leftists, many of whom are 472 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: pretty ignorant and don't even know what overturning Row means. 473 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: I think a month afterwards, are going to be surprised. Wait, 474 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: nothing about my life changed in other parts of the 475 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: country that are not bright blue and redder states, In 476 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: states like Tennessee states like Texas, you're going to see 477 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: some meaningful restrictions on abortion, and it's going to vary 478 00:28:53,480 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: state by state how extensive those restrictions are. That is 479 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: the Framer's view in the Constitution is to let the 480 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: rules in each state reflect the values of the citizens 481 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: of those states. But in the redder states, there are 482 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: fewer people that are going to be horrified by that. 483 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: And I think you're going to have a positive effect 484 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 1: of people in the pro life community who have been 485 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: fighting for this for fifty years being energized. And I 486 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: am hopeful that that being energized is going to cause 487 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: them to turn out and vote at the polls, and 488 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: I think that could lead to an even bigger majority 489 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: in the House and the Senate next year. Right. That's 490 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: a great point because not only is nothing going to 491 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: change in terms of abortion law in the most pro 492 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: abortion places, but even if something did change and the 493 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: Democrats were irate and steamwork coming out of their ears, 494 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: nothing's going to change about whom they're electing, and nothing's 495 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: going to change about the members of Congress or the 496 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: Senators or anything else. That is a hopeful note to 497 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: end on Senator that this case might not only come 498 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: out with a good end for the pro life movement, 499 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: but also might not hurt us at the pulse. Frankly, 500 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: it might even might even help us. Before we go, 501 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: we've got to bring on our friend Liz Wheeler, because 502 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: you're not done yet, sir. We've finished our episode, but 503 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: you've got an episode of cloak Room coming up. Liz, 504 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: what are you going to talk about? Hi, Michael High, 505 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Senator Cruz, I know that we've been talking about this 506 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: leaked draft majority opinion from the Supreme Court overturning Rovwade, 507 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: or at leasted it does in this draft opinion. You 508 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: guys have talked about it a lot, We've heard about 509 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: it a lot, but there are more details that need 510 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: to be discussed. So we are going to do a 511 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: little investigative dive into who exactly might have leaked this opinion, 512 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: how this might have happened, and whether the Supreme Court 513 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: actually will overturn Roe v. Wade. So join us on 514 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: the cloak Room on Verdict Plus. You can go to 515 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: Verdict with Ted Cruise dot com slash plus. 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