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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori along
Speaker 2: with Karen Dolman Back with Us, author one of her
Speaker 2: latest books, When Kats Had Wings, Paranormal researcher, licensed counselor
Speaker 2: spirit Communicated Now she's an officer and director of the
Speaker 2: Talking Board Historical Society. Was born with the gifts of
Speaker 2: clairvoyance and Claire Audience. Karen communicates with cynient beans in
Speaker 2: the Unseen Dimensions and shares the messages she receives and
Speaker 2: has been channeling while using the Ouiji board since nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy three, and she claims she's got a stounding result.
Speaker 2: Hello Karen, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hi George, Happy Holidays to you too. It's great
Speaker 3: to be back with you.
Speaker 2: We had Suzanne Wilson on a week or so ago
Speaker 2: and she just raved about you.
Speaker 3: You know, Susanna and I have used the board together.
Speaker 3: We sat before and used it a few times, and
Speaker 3: you know, she's a great channeler herself. When you use
Speaker 3: the board, you're actually just channeling. The board becomes a
Speaker 3: way to display your channeling activity. We can get more
Speaker 3: into that tonight. But yeah, Suzanne's great at what she
Speaker 3: does as well.
Speaker 2: What have you been up to these days?
Speaker 3: Oh been so busy traveling and stuff. And it's just
Speaker 3: crazy how fast this last year is gone. Has it
Speaker 3: not just flown by?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The twenty four has been a rocket ship. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he was because of after COVID or what,
Speaker 2: but this thing just took off, I think.
Speaker 3: So, you know, that's a good point. We were so
Speaker 3: locked up for a while there that, you know, we
Speaker 3: just everybody just went full speed. Everything went full speeds, fastboard,
Speaker 3: and here we are the end of the year. I
Speaker 3: can't believe it.
Speaker 2: People still talk about Wuiji boards, Karen, of.
Speaker 3: Course they do. They're very popular in pop culture now,
Speaker 3: and you'll see all different types of wija board spirit boards,
Speaker 3: whichboards coming out that emulate the movies that you'll see
Speaker 3: that are paranormal movies or just shows in particular. I mean,
Speaker 3: people like the idea of what the wigi boid represents
Speaker 3: and also how you can use it and what you
Speaker 3: can do with them.
Speaker 2: That's true. Let's talk about channeling for a little bit.
Speaker 2: In your opinion, what is channeling? First of all, give
Speaker 2: us a broad overlook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to get a definition as we have
Speaker 3: our conversation today. Channeling is a way to access other
Speaker 3: information that's out there, and it could be information from
Speaker 3: sentient beings, it could be information from your higher self,
Speaker 3: it can be information from guides. But it's a way
Speaker 3: to access information that you bring forth. Of course, you
Speaker 3: can't separate the person doing the channeling from what they're channeling,
Speaker 3: meaning a lot of times we will influence the information
Speaker 3: by our own perspectives, our own views, our own lenses,
Speaker 3: if you will, that we use when we bring forth
Speaker 3: the information. But you're bringing it from out there through
Speaker 3: yourself and then expressing it in your own way. So
Speaker 3: it could be, you know, voice channeling. It could be
Speaker 3: a direct voice channeling in that sense. It could be
Speaker 3: like psyche readings or medium ship. It could be used
Speaker 3: an oisia board, It could be using a tro cards
Speaker 3: or some other kind of oracle type of reading. But
Speaker 3: we do it in many different ways. Automatic writings another one,
Speaker 3: and what a lot of people do now is they
Speaker 3: just use their keyboard or their phone and tap out messages.
Speaker 3: But it's growing divine messages from higher levels of consciousness
Speaker 3: or water perspectives of consciousness and bringing it through into
Speaker 3: this dimension and sharing it forward.
Speaker 2: How did channeling start for you, Karen, Well, the.
Speaker 3: Interesting thing about that question is I was already doing it,
Speaker 3: not knowing I was doing it. So when I was
Speaker 3: super young, I remember having this when you and I've
Speaker 3: talked about this before. What everybody else called was an
Speaker 3: imaginary playmate, and it wasn't an imaginary playmate. This theme
Speaker 3: was right there with me. And his name was Daki Vaki,
Speaker 3: and I remember I would talk to him and play
Speaker 3: with him and buck that in the age of two, three,
Speaker 3: four or five. And when I went to school, my
Speaker 3: mother said, you really need to quit talking to things
Speaker 3: that other people can't see, because you're going to be
Speaker 3: made fun of at school. So she really wanted me
Speaker 3: to have success at school, so told me to put
Speaker 3: Jackie away. And what was happening was I was receiving
Speaker 3: messages from this bean, the sentient bean, who was very
Speaker 3: kind and friendly and warm. We had fun, we play
Speaker 3: together and give me information and receiving that telepathically. He
Speaker 3: would just give me information. I'd ask questions about a
Speaker 3: lot of things about life in general. Was going on?
Speaker 3: Who were these people that were my parents. I mean,
Speaker 3: such weird questions like that a young child would be asking.
Speaker 3: But I was asking these questions and he would give
Speaker 3: me information, and when I put him away, I realized, Wow,
Speaker 3: nobody else could see him. What was this experience. So
Speaker 3: when I had an opportunity at the age of eight
Speaker 3: to use Sylgia board, that's when I realized that was
Speaker 3: one form of channeling in which I can be back
Speaker 3: in contact with beings that were in other dimensions. And
Speaker 3: so it just kind of grew from there, and then
Speaker 3: the board became a wonderful device, if you will, kind
Speaker 3: of display of my channeling abilities. When I realized I
Speaker 3: can also do this without the board, which is pretty
Speaker 3: much what I do now. I use the board still,
Speaker 3: but I will channel without the board, just a direct
Speaker 3: channel as I did as a child. So it's like, George,
Speaker 3: I've come full circle back to how I entered this world.
Speaker 2: Why do you love the board, Karen? And then somebody
Speaker 2: like me doesn't.
Speaker 3: Well you're gonna have to ask that question, George. Well
Speaker 3: you don't, but some people like the board as I
Speaker 3: do because well, there's several reasons. One the collector's items,
Speaker 3: I collect them I have an extensive collection, and so
Speaker 3: do many of my colleagues, especially all the members of
Speaker 3: the Talking Board Historical Society. All those directors have hundreds,
Speaker 3: if not thousands of boards in their collection, and we
Speaker 3: enjoyed the h three of them. It's very unique history.
Speaker 3: It's from America, came out of the eight and eighty
Speaker 3: eighteen eighty six in that era, and it's part of
Speaker 3: the rich history of just the whole idea of doing
Speaker 3: seances and spiritualism. So there's a whole, wealthy, rich history there. Plus,
Speaker 3: they're very diverse looking. Like I mentioned, you'll find different
Speaker 3: boards nowadays coming out that emulate movies or shows, stranger things,
Speaker 3: the WIA series, av the Osborne. I mean, everybody has
Speaker 3: a wig order spirit for it, so they have really
Speaker 3: neat imagery on them, so they're pretty I like them
Speaker 3: because I like them for those reasons, but I also
Speaker 3: like them because it allows me to bring through divine
Speaker 3: wisdom and consciousness from other spiritual beings that have helped
Speaker 3: me and helped my clients over the years.
Speaker 2: Do we all have the ability to channel?
Speaker 3: We do. In fact, we're all channeling all the time
Speaker 3: throughout the day. I mean, when you go into a
Speaker 3: state of we'll call it synanbilistic state or a self
Speaker 3: hypnosis kind of state. For example, you're driving your car
Speaker 3: and you may not remember when you stop at that
Speaker 3: stop sign or stop at the red light, and then
Speaker 3: when it turned green. It's almost like an auditmatic state.
Speaker 3: You're bringing forth information. You can kind of check out
Speaker 3: of your normal consciousness and allow your subconscious to check in.
Speaker 3: And that's what you do with Channel. You learn to
Speaker 3: step aside to get out of the thinking brain I
Speaker 3: call it a logical side of the brain and get
Speaker 3: more into your creative faculties of your brain where you
Speaker 3: can allow the information to come forth, but you can't
Speaker 3: critiqul or criticize it or stop the flow. You've got
Speaker 3: to be like, you know, just automatically stopping at that
Speaker 3: red light and automatically drive it, going to get again
Speaker 3: when it's green. But we we constantly are bringing forth information.
Speaker 3: Another example, probably even a better example, is when we
Speaker 3: have a great idea or an epiphany. You go, aha,
Speaker 3: a nice solved that problem, or I thought it was
Speaker 3: something new to do with my business or something. We're
Speaker 3: chilling information. Where's it coming from? Well, it could be
Speaker 3: coming from our greater higher self. It could be coming
Speaker 3: from the divine source all that is to be coming
Speaker 3: from God. It could be coming from your relatives, deceased relatives,
Speaker 3: and the other realms. But we're possibly bringing in information
Speaker 3: and that's a lighter form of channeling.
Speaker 2: We hear a lot about spirit guides, who or what
Speaker 2: are they?
Speaker 3: Well, spirit guides and those beings that want to be
Speaker 3: there to assist us. Now, they don't live our life
Speaker 3: for us, but they'll be our cheerleaders, my spirit guide
Speaker 3: always could they they consider us your cheerleaders, standing at
Speaker 3: the sidelines of your life and we're sharing you on,
Speaker 3: but we're not going to step into the game and
Speaker 3: play it for you. So if you can see the
Speaker 3: spirit guides with these beings that are also grown and
Speaker 3: evolving in their own dimensions as they reach out and
Speaker 3: work with us in our dimension, and it's a it's
Speaker 3: a relationship, so it's not one sided like they're better
Speaker 3: than us, so they know so much more other times
Speaker 3: sometimes they do, but it's the fact that they get
Speaker 3: to work with this human experience and kind of experience
Speaker 3: it through our own lives, but also assist us and
Speaker 3: share us on and help us well. You may need it.
Speaker 2: So if somebody wants to start channeling on their own,
Speaker 2: what's the best way for them to do it?
Speaker 3: Well, the best way to do it is really just
Speaker 3: to do it by yourself. And what I mean by
Speaker 3: that is it's not getting caught up in any device
Speaker 3: or because then we all have our our belief system
Speaker 3: about devices such as leisure board or trow cards or
Speaker 3: oracle decks or eaching or wherever we choose to use.
Speaker 3: Start with yourself. Get into a self hypnosis kind of
Speaker 3: meditation kind of state of being where you're relaxed. You
Speaker 3: can get a relaxed state and open up your heart
Speaker 3: and say, I would like to channel my divine wisdom.
Speaker 3: I would like to channel my greatest self. I would
Speaker 3: like to channel my higher self. Now I tend to
Speaker 3: like use the word higher self, but sometimes that's scarce
Speaker 3: people because it sounds like it's outside of them. Where
Speaker 3: I'm really saying, channel your soul self, channel that being
Speaker 3: a spark of you that exists even when you're not
Speaker 3: in body, and be in touch with that my spirit
Speaker 3: guide call that they're plugging into your higher consciousness and
Speaker 3: ask you have to have the intention set, but the
Speaker 3: key here is to be in a relaxed state. You
Speaker 3: could be you know, sitting in a chair, laying down
Speaker 3: on a bed, but be where you have your you
Speaker 3: have your own undivided attention, nobody distracting your no animals
Speaker 3: coming in and jumping on you want in pets and
Speaker 3: stuff like that, but taking your time and saying, I
Speaker 3: open myself up to this higher wisdom and see what
Speaker 3: comes through, feel what comes through, hear what comes through.
Speaker 3: And then when you do that for a few moments,
Speaker 3: right some thoughts down, write some feelings down. It's really
Speaker 3: allowing yourself to get out of your own way and
Speaker 3: allow the energy to flow through you allow yourself to
Speaker 3: tap into this greater level of consciousness, which I really
Speaker 3: feel like we're all tapped into. It's just a matter
Speaker 3: of learning to bring it forth and open up to
Speaker 3: allow it to come through. And then you're going to
Speaker 3: start getting insights. Like I mentioned earlier Epiphanes, the aha
Speaker 3: moments or thinkronistic things start to happen because as you
Speaker 3: start to channel, you start to be more in tune
Speaker 3: with who you really are. There's quite a few steps
Speaker 3: to it, but the best way is to do it
Speaker 3: with yourself in silence.
Speaker 2: What if you end up channeling something or is some
Speaker 2: entday you don't want to.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing if I mentioned earlier. When you channel,
Speaker 3: it's all based upon your own perceptions. It's based upon
Speaker 3: your views of the world. It's based upon your lenses
Speaker 3: in which you see the world and view yourself in
Speaker 3: relationship to that world. See, when I was a child,
Speaker 3: I didn't seem it is scary. When I was talking
Speaker 3: to sing it was just a very firmly experience. So
Speaker 3: I was very fortunate I didn't have any fripful things
Speaker 3: like that happened to me. But as I got older,
Speaker 3: I was able to say, now I can intentionally set
Speaker 3: the way I want this to go about. And I'm
Speaker 3: a positive person. You know me, you know me in
Speaker 3: real life, so I tend to bring that to my
Speaker 3: sessions and my views of myself and relationship to the
Speaker 3: world is that I'm not a pond to it. I'm
Speaker 3: actually a co creator. So you really have to shift
Speaker 3: your mindset when you channel, and then you're going to
Speaker 3: be met with that same mindset. That same type of
Speaker 3: energy you put out is the energy you track back.
Speaker 3: That's a really important thing. You ask me George, is
Speaker 3: that when you channel, you must get into the space
Speaker 3: of I'm open, I'm positive, I believe I can reach
Speaker 3: the higher self. And that's why I say keep it
Speaker 3: with your inner self, higher self, because that's the positive
Speaker 3: experience as opposed to trying to bring in other other individuals, entities,
Speaker 3: or beings that are out there. But you can attract
Speaker 3: what it is you put out there and how you
Speaker 3: view the world. Again, get yourself in that energetic state
Speaker 3: that's going to bring to you that same type of energy.
Speaker 2: When you channel. Karen, are you aware of what you're doing?
Speaker 2: I mean, are you alert?
Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent conscious channeler. So there are
Speaker 3: things I will say in my readings for people when
Speaker 3: I'm channeling directly just voice channeling, but I'll say I'm
Speaker 3: hearing this. I'm going to tell you this if they
Speaker 3: reached out to me three months later and said, you
Speaker 3: remember saying that. I don't, because I do so many readings,
Speaker 3: I don't remember everything I say. But when the moment
Speaker 3: of giving it, I'm very much conscious. What it seems
Speaker 3: like to me is I've just stept open, or how
Speaker 3: it says I've opened at the door wider where I
Speaker 3: instead of using a garden hose, I'm using like a
Speaker 3: fire truck hose. The opening, the opening to do this
Speaker 3: work is wide open. I get into a state relaxation
Speaker 3: and positivity and then allow the information to flow through.
Speaker 3: And I trust, I trust what I'm receiving because I've
Speaker 3: been doing this for such a long time, over fifty
Speaker 3: one years now and channeling off the board. Gosh, for
Speaker 3: about he could spend about fifteen years off the board.
Speaker 3: So I put a lot of work into this to
Speaker 3: fine tune my own energy so I could be met
Speaker 3: with that same type of energy came back.
Speaker 2: Edgar Casey, the great American Sleeping Profit, was a channeler too,
Speaker 2: wasn't He sure was, And.
Speaker 3: He was a channeler who was a trans medium. So
Speaker 3: he would go into it he was unconscious, he'd go
Speaker 3: into state, well, he'd relax. They called the sleeping Profits
Speaker 3: for that reason. He would go into this sleeplike state
Speaker 3: so deep with his brain waves, and he bring back information,
Speaker 3: whether it was the Kashik record and information or reading's
Speaker 3: first clients, or healing advice, medical advice for his clients.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was somebody who went in such a
Speaker 3: deep state that he was not conscious in the consciousness
Speaker 3: of being awake.
Speaker 2: I am what does consciousness? What does consciousness mean to you? Karen?
Speaker 3: Well, because I like to keep it really simple. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of theories out there. They relate to
Speaker 3: string theory, and you can get real physical, like get
Speaker 3: into physics with it. I didn't like to keep it
Speaker 3: very simple. And how it's explained to me from my
Speaker 3: guide and how I like to explain it to my
Speaker 3: clients is that consciousness is this greater matrix of energy,
Speaker 3: of an energetic field that we're all that we're all
Speaker 3: connected with them. So it's the divine. It's the flow
Speaker 3: of the Divine flowing through all of us. And if
Speaker 3: I could tap that spark of the divine within somebody else,
Speaker 3: another being.
Speaker 4: Whether it's a animal or some kind of being with awareness,
Speaker 4: a sentient being, then I can go through that pathway
Speaker 4: of this matrix of energetic, this energetic field and tap
Speaker 4: into that.
Speaker 3: Now. See, it's really interesting. Humanity has been doing this
Speaker 3: since the birth of humanity, has been working with sentient
Speaker 3: beings and awareness and consciousness, maybe not using those terminologies,
Speaker 3: but they have the ability to talk to the ancestors,
Speaker 3: which is very much what I'm talking about. So indigenous
Speaker 3: cultures and native cultures were already doing this where they
Speaker 3: were in touch with what you may call the standing
Speaker 3: tall beans, which would be the trees or daya mother Earth,
Speaker 3: and a lot of their mythological stories, the creation stories
Speaker 3: were giving whether it's planet, stars, the earth, the sky,
Speaker 3: the animals, a sense of sentients where they could tap
Speaker 3: into them. And so that's a form of channeling through
Speaker 3: the consciousness, of reaching their consciousness. So I feel like
Speaker 3: you can do this through hitting that vibe, the vibration
Speaker 3: or frequency that were all connected to, and I like
Speaker 3: to call it the spark of the divine that's found
Speaker 3: within all of us.
Speaker 2: Tell me more about the sentient beings. What are they?
Speaker 3: Well, there's many different loves of sentient beings. You're a
Speaker 3: sentient beans, you have an awareness, you're alive, you can think,
Speaker 3: you feel. We're all sentient beings. Humans are sentient beings,
Speaker 3: Animals are sentient beings. You can even take it down
Speaker 3: the level, like I mentioned trees. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: studies now on vegetable life, trees and plants that say
Speaker 3: they have an awareness to them. You know, there was
Speaker 3: the old studies that were done on tomato plants where
Speaker 3: somebody of research were walk into the room and rip
Speaker 3: their leaves and they were attached to electrodes to be
Speaker 3: their response, and the plants would cringe when that person
Speaker 3: walk back in afraid that their leaves are fearing that
Speaker 3: their leaves were going to be ripped again. So there's
Speaker 3: been more and more work done around trees and plants
Speaker 3: that they have an awareness. They send out smells to
Speaker 3: scare away other animals, they are eating their leaves, or
Speaker 3: they help their other saplings or trees cut down or
Speaker 3: falls down, they reach their roots toward them. There's so
Speaker 3: much neat research going on in science that's showing that,
Speaker 3: you know, even trees have sentient consciousness. But I believe
Speaker 3: that sentient beings go even further than that. If you
Speaker 3: can reach it, tap into it through your intentions, they're sentient.
Speaker 3: And just because we think something's not sentient doesn't mean
Speaker 3: it's not. So we can look at wild animals, you
Speaker 3: can look at snakes, lizards, you can look at buffalo, fish, dolphins.
Speaker 3: They all have a sentience awareness. It's a matter of
Speaker 3: us learning to tap into them. And I find, as
Speaker 3: I mentioned earlier, the easiest way to do that. The
Speaker 3: direct route to do that is finding a divine spark
Speaker 3: where source flows through them, and if I can tap that,
Speaker 3: then I can reach into them and receive messages from them.
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